[00:39] Is this still the correct way to change a plan? https://one.ubuntu.com/help/faq/how-do-i-change-from-paying-monthly-to-paying-annually-or-vice-versa/ What will happen to my files when the plan expires if it takes me a couple days to renew on an annual plan? [01:51] cjohnston: the files will be ok [01:52] duanedesign: thats the best way to do it still? [01:52] cjohnston: yes [01:52] ralsina: you around to do a quick review? === yofel_ is now known as yofel === rye is now known as rtg === rtg is now known as rye === rye is now known as rtg === rtg is now known as rye [09:24] morning all! [09:43] morning mandel [09:43] duanedesign, wowo! morning! [09:43] duanedesign, isn't it very early for you? [09:44] *yawn*...yes [09:44] can't get the coffee made fast enough :) [09:47] lol [09:49] mandel: you ever hear the expression 'a watched pot never boils'? I am beginning to believe that. [09:51] duanedesign, yes, I know it, remember I lived in the uk for 6 years.. that means hours staring at a kettle :) [09:51] hah [10:29] Aloha [10:29] mandel: how is the beast? === pedronis_ is now known as pedronis === eu is now known as Guest72856 [11:05] czajkowski, everything going great, it finally can run :) [11:05] czajkowski, how was fosdem? [11:05] yay [11:10] mandel: fantastic, bar the snow, but had lots of fun [11:11] czajkowski, well most of europe is full of snow hehe [11:11] czajkowski, Jan told me that there was a number of canonical people there, right? [11:12] mandel: aye a few alright [11:12] Alison and Daviey were there that I know of not sure about others [11:13] some ex canonical like soren and others who are/were in openstack [11:14] ah, nice.. === rye is now known as rtg === rtg is now known as rye [11:51] I need to go offline to fix the internet connection [11:51] will be back soon [12:15] * mandel back [12:18] hello world! [12:26] nessita, buenos dias! [12:29] ralsina: you around? [12:31] hello guys! [12:31] nessita, I need to reboot due to an update, will be back in a few secs [12:32] mandel: ack, thanks [12:32] hola alecu [12:34] nessita, ralsina: I'm taking a day off today: I was about to take Amelia to kinder but she's with plenty of fever so she'll need to stay at home. [12:35] nessita, I'm able to do some reviews you requested yesterday if everything remains quiet around here :-) [12:35] alecu: ack...is there any chance you coordinate with mandel about the proxy work, before you go? [12:35] unless everything is already coordinated :) [12:37] nessita, he's taking charge of proxy authentication, so it's perfectly coordinated, yes (!). I'll catch up with him so I'm up to date on the wireframe changes. [12:37] alecu: thanks [12:57] nessita, I'm back, reading the backlog, yes we did a catch up yesterday [12:58] nessita, we do them quite often so we don't step on each others work :) [13:01] mandel: great, makes sense [13:21] mandel: have you seen ralsina today? [13:21] nessita, not yet [13:22] thanks [13:22] dobey: you around? [13:22] nessita, dobey starts later to :) [13:23] mandel, nessita, gatox: https://code.launchpad.net/~alecu/ubuntu-sso-client/fix-ping-url/+merge/91825 [13:23] nessita, welcome to my lonely world ;) [13:24] alecu: you found it?! [13:24] nessita, found who? [13:24] mandel: well... in ar is 10:25 am! :-) [13:24] nessita, you mean, the bug? [13:24] alecu: the issue with the ping [13:24] yes [13:24] nessita, yes, I found it yesterday after coming from kinder [13:25] nessita, and had that branch that needed some tests run on it. [13:25] nessita, I tried it IRL and was finally able to login [13:25] and it was an epiphany or the result of tons of debugging? [13:26] nessita, it just needed the bit of intelligence I was lacking earlier in the day :P [13:26] heh [13:28] * alecu 's head is about to explode because of so much "twinkle twinkle little star" [13:28] alecu, reviewing.... [13:28] * nessita is happy that she does not know what's that [13:33] oh, is a lovely song for kids :) [13:33] nessita, are you using P? [13:33] yes sir [13:34] nessita, can you do me a super IRL test for me? If you have time ofcourse.. :) [13:34] mandel: sure! [13:35] nessita, can you go to the proxy settings dialog in your machine and set a false proxy, once that is done, can you execute 'gsettings list-recursively org.gnome.system.proxy' and copy the output [13:35] nessita, just set the proxy to manual and some fake ip and port [13:35] nessita, you will loose connection for the test, sorry for that [13:40] mandel: where is the proxy setting dialog? [13:40] nessita, in the gnome-control-center under network [13:42] nessita: here I am! [13:42] nessita: what's up? [13:43] heh [13:43] mandel: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/832601/ [13:43] nessita, thx! [13:44] nessita: what's up? [13:45] dobey: hola! I need your help for 2 things... the first one is a question: is the controlpanel branches being landed in the precise tarmac? [13:45] are* the... [13:45] ok, I'm off to lunch [13:46] nessita: they weren't [13:47] oh ffs [13:47] launchpad is teh broken [13:47] dobey: can I fix that somehow? proposing a branch? though I checked the config and it looked like trunk was run under precise... [13:48] dobey: this branch is missing the gireactor https://code.launchpad.net/~nataliabidart/ubuntuone-control-panel/gicrazyness/+merge/91708 [13:49] nessita: yes i know. i made a branch to fix the tarmac config last night. lp has gone off its rocker though. [13:49] dobey: ah... I see [13:49] wtf [13:50] dobey: ok, while that settles, when you have a moment, I wanted you to review a branch I'm proposing for packaging-dailies in sso, to split the package in several binaries (so then I can do it right in the ubuntu package) [13:51] dobey: but before that, I need to debug why the binary packages will not build, I have a pbuilder trace when you have some minutes [13:51] ok [13:54] hi, i need help with ubuntuone windows 7 client, the control panel doesnt minimize to tray, and there isnt popups notifications... [13:56] d70: yes, the popup notifications are not there yet [13:56] d70: if you close the window, it will stay in the tray, though [13:57] im using win7(64) and it doesnt stay in the tray, what it can be? [13:57] I opened the task manager, and it's runing.. [13:58] but , when I close the control panel, it's end the process... [14:00] alecu, +1 [14:06] brb [14:09] nessita: what's the pbuilder error? [14:09] dobey: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/832548/ lines 176 and 177 [14:10] (I guess that's the error) [14:10] dobey: but ubuntuone-dev-tools and xvfb are listed as source deps... [14:10] yes [14:11] so I'm not sure how to debug that further [14:11] nessita: you know what; i totally forgot to do the upload for ubuntuone-dev-tools last week. so only 2.99.2 is still in ubuntu [14:11] oh... that's it?!?1 :-) [14:12] I was going crazy last night! :-P [14:12] well, that's why devtools isn't getting installed [14:12] dobey: hey, look! A hole in your infalibility cape! ;-) [14:12] don't know about xvfb [14:12] ralsina: it's not a hole, it's decoration! :) [14:13] nessita: i'll do that upload right now :) [14:13] awesome [14:13] so I cna IRL test the binary packages [14:14] crikey [14:15] i even forgot to release the tarball [14:15] how did i miss that [14:15] grr [14:15] dobey: dude! [14:15] :-) [14:20] wow i'm an idiot :) [14:20] The right question is: "Is there a way to ensure it doesn't happen again?" [14:20] dobey: something else is pending? [14:21] ralsina: to use a now common cliche in the US… "Never forget!" [14:21] dobey: too soon! ;-) [14:21] too soon? [14:22] too soon we will forget something else again, I bet [14:22] heh === dduffey_afk is now known as dduffey [14:32] nessita: https://code.launchpad.net/~dobey/ubuntuone-dev-tools/update-from-trunk/+merge/91836 ;) === Guest72856 is now known as adorilson [14:35] dobey: approved [14:46] nessita, I'm getting this while running tests in your branch: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/832658/ [14:46] any idea? [14:46] nessita, I'm running it like this: PYTHONPATH=~/canonical/ubuntu-sso-client/trunk/:. ./run-tests [14:46] alecu: yes, you can only run Qt tests in controlpanel for now [14:46] nessita, great [14:47] w [14:47] t [14:47] f [14:47] . [14:48] dobey: ? [14:48] dobey: speaking of which, can I re-approve the gicrazyness branch? [14:50] * mandel back [14:51] nessita: yes i think you can now [14:52] ralsina: can I have a review? [14:52] nessita: sure, I am in the mgmt call but yes [14:52] ah, right [14:52] ralsina: when you can https://code.launchpad.net/~nataliabidart/ubuntu-sso-client/install-ui-files-properly/+merge/91754 [14:58] is syncdaemon working for you guys [14:58] ? [14:58] it was working yesterday [14:58] in my case, it insist on saying "Not network", and also is not answering to dbus [14:58] using precise and nightlies [14:58] updated today [15:00] me [15:00] me [15:00] me [15:00] me [15:00] * mandel said me in a diff channel, ups! [15:01] haha [15:01] me [15:02] ralsina: standup? [15:02] No notes and am on a call, so pass [15:02] sorry, I forgot to write the notes :-( [15:02] dobey: me? [15:02] Didn't get much achieved yesterday anyway [15:02] ralsina: why? [15:03] nessita: you? [15:03] meh [15:03] DONE: lots of branches to have controlpanel isolated from qt4reactor, made sso not install a reactor when importing modules from it, reviews [15:03] TODO: lots of reviews, land branches from yesterday, make sso nightlies build separate binary packages, debug whysyncdaemon is not answering thru DBus [15:03] BLOCKED: a little (syncdaemon is not cooperating) [15:03] NEXT: briancurtin [15:03] DONE: some headway on this readonly/readwrite issue (lots of reading up on ACLs), spent a while getting my other linux box up to speed [15:03] TODO: readonly/readwrite, debug an issue i saw during the sprint (assert_method_called diff on win/linux re. None vs False for a result) [15:03] BLOCKED: none [15:03] NEXT: mandel [15:03] DONE: Work on supporting user:password@domain settings for proxy. Got integration tests written that use gsettings to store proxy settings. [15:03] TODO: Propose changes above mentioned. Work on showing the creds dialog. [15:03] BLOCKED: no [15:03] gatox, please! [15:03] DONE: [15:03] Fixed some branches, a review for alecu, keep working in refactoring. [15:03] TODO: [15:03] Finish with refactoring. [15:03] BLOCKED: [15:03] No [15:03] alecu, go [15:03] nessita: why I dodn't achieve much? Well, I was a bit scatterbrained, so didn't finish stuff. It happens now and then. [15:03] DONE: fix for bug #927664, needing one more review at: https://code.launchpad.net/~alecu/ubuntu-sso-client/fix-ping-url/+merge/91825 [15:03] TODO: taking half a day off because amelia is not going to kinder, doing some reviews [15:03] BLOCKED: yes: kid with fever [15:03] Launchpad bug 927664 in ubuntu-sso-client "FORBIDDEN error while pinging the url (affects: 1) (heat: 6)" [Critical,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/927664 [15:03] NEXT: dobey [15:04] λ DONE: fix broken rhythmbox-ubuntuone upload, fix sso nightlies, disable sso/client nightlies on everything but precise, update some tarmac config [15:04] ralsina: ah, I thought you were referring to something in particular that I've missed [15:04] λ TODO: finish this devtools release/upload, gwibber for real this time [15:04] λ BLCK: None. [15:04] briancurtin, when I was workin on that I realized that the simplest way was to add a DenyACL to the file and later revert it, rather than changing ownership etc.. [15:04] nessita: no, just lameness on my side :-) [15:04] mandel: thanks, i'll look at that [15:04] any comments anyone? can you confirm about my SD question? [15:05] dobey: is SD working for you with latest nightlies? mine is not publishing the objects path in dbus so it does not reply to any dbus query [15:06] no idea [15:07] looks like u1sdtool has grabbed the console and hung itself [15:09] dobey: you will get a NoReply soon [15:10] if you inspect with dfeet, you will see that the SyncDaemon service is there, but no methods are published [15:10] i had an old syncdaemon running, and did u1sdtool -q; it said "syncdaemon is stopped" and then hung [15:11] i killed it and about to upgrade, but there was like a thousand mono packages listed, so i'm doing a big apt-get remove --purge first to get rid of mono [15:11] ack [15:12] dobey: u1sdtool hanging is the same as sso hanging... something in the mainloops not finishing [15:12] dobey: how can I have tarmac using latest nightlies to run controlpanle suite? [15:12] nessita: it's not already? [15:13] dobey: I got a failure for gicrazyness that comes from "old" u1client (it needs your gi branch) [15:13] ah [15:14] nessita: am running an apt-get upgrade for it now too then [15:14] ack [15:49] I installed Ubuntuone [15:49] all is fine, except the control panel just keeps saying 'loading' [15:49] i'm using Lubuntu 11.10 [15:51] jeroen-, do you know how to use u1sdtool? [15:51] mandel: well I now get the --status [15:51] but thats fine [15:51] mandel: but tell me what should i do? [15:51] jeroen-, I'm duanedesign and rye can help you better :) [15:52] nessita: btw, upgrade is done you can set back tko approved [15:52] jeroen-, I'm just a code monkey so I'll probably tell you the most complicated path hehe [15:52] mandel: doesnt matter, I want to be fixed [15:52] jeroen-, what does the --status say? [15:52] jeroen-, you can paste in http://paste.ubuntu.com [15:52] rye: the status says afew things [15:53] I will [15:53] jeroen-, and give the URL here [15:53] jeroen-: is ubuntuone-control-panel-backend running, while the control panel is open? you will need to check the process list [15:53] dobey: ack [15:53] ralsina: you still in the call? [15:54] nessita: just finished, reviewing your branch [15:54] rye: http://paste.ubuntu.com/832732/ [15:54] ralsina: thanks! [15:54] nessita: I mean, finished the call, started reiewing [15:54] got that [15:54] dobey: jeroen 3656 1 0 16:48 ? 00:00:01 /usr/bin/python /usr/lib/ubuntuone-control-panel/ubuntuone-control-panel-backend [15:55] jeroen-, ok, ubuntuone is working and syncing, I suppose you were able to enter the login and password and got the ubuntuone registered successfully. What part of control panel is showing "Loading" ? [15:56] jeroen-: pastebin the last few lines of ~/.cache/ubuntuone/log/controlpanel.log please [15:56] rye: the tabs account, cloud folders and devices. Also on the top left it's saying 'busy loading' [15:56] dobey: one moment [15:56] dobey: how many lines? [15:57] jeroen-: 10 or so should be fine. [15:58] dobey: I have the feeling that dbus.mainloop.glib.DBusGMainLoop does not work with gi [15:58] :-/ [15:58] nessita: then how are the tests working? [15:58] dobey / rye: http://paste.ubuntu.com/832740/ [15:58] dobey: hum, True [15:59] jeroen-, memory error [15:59] dobey: but then why syncdaemon is not "exporting" the ifaces on dbus? will keep debugging [15:59] nessita: actually, no. if it's broken then something has to have broken in glib itself. because i testing running some of these things from a tree a while back when i was working on the new reactor [15:59] nessita: no idea :( [15:59] nessita, ^ InfoError: args (, {'error_type': 'MemoryError', 'error_msg': u''}), kwargs {}. [15:59] rye: yes I see, how is that possible? [15:59] jeroen-: apparently all your memory is in use [16:00] jeroen-, quick check - what does "free -m" show you? [16:00] well, it's not - my system works fine [16:00] rye: no more mem available? [16:00] nessita: +1 [16:00] nessita: no idea why dbus is hanging. it's weird [16:01] dobey: on top of that, my SD will not detect the network connection (that's bizarre) [16:02] nessita: yes, something is quite odd [16:02] rye: see http://paste.ubuntu.com/832748/ [16:02] will try re-updating and rebooting [16:02] jeroen-, I am not sure where to start but if there is a free memory available after all, the error comes from backend and frontend is working [16:02] (did you try turning it off and on again?) [16:02] Mem: 1002 856 145 0 19 324 [16:02] -/+ buffers/cache: 512 489 [16:02] Swap: 1906 27 1878 [16:03] nessita: does seem to be dbus related as well :( [16:03] yeap [16:03] nessita, ^ that does not look like completely OOM to me [16:03] --debug isn't showing me anything useful [16:04] dobey: is your SD state "With User With Network"? [16:04] jeroen-, could you please archive the whole ~/.cache/ubuntuone/log and send it to ubuntuone-support@canonical.com [16:04] nessita: not user not network [16:04] dobey: mine too... [16:04] no, net detection in your case either [16:04] right; so we have a problem [16:04] "so*, no net detection in your case" [16:05] yes, houston [16:05] jeroen-, i am pretty sure this condition can be fixed by shutting down the backend process and running control panel again but I'd like to see when it started to have memory problem [16:05] rye: ok, tell me what I should do [16:05] rye: is syncdaemon running and not kille by oom? [16:05] nessita, yes, sd is happily running [16:06] rye: very very odd. What ubuntu system? [16:06] jeroen-, you can try putting a file to "~/Ubuntu One" folder and it should be synced to the online storage [16:06] nessita, lubuntu 11.10, oneiric [16:06] rye: using nightlies or without? [16:07] nessita, standard lubuntu, i am talking about jeroen- 's machine [16:07] nessita: also, i've released/uploaded devtools 2.99.3 now [16:07] dobey: awesome, will re try testing the binary packages [16:07] rye: it uploaded the file fine - gave also a notification on the top right [16:08] jeroen-, ok, first of all, could you please archive the directory ~/.cache/ubuntuone/log and send the archive to ubuntuone-support@canonical.com before restart to make sure we have the logs before rotation [16:08] jeroen-, after this shut down control panel and kill the backend process @ 3656 [16:08] rye: file is also on the web [16:09] I wonder whether that ^ was OOM killer [16:09] nessita: looks like you may have other issues with your pbuilder too. make sure you do a pbuilder-precise update first :) [16:09] dobey: did it this morning, as another debug step :-) [16:11] ah bugger. tests not running in nightlies builds due to missing packages [16:11] dobey: would you explain what "W: ubuntu-sso-client source: empty-debian-diff" means? (besides the obvious) [16:12] nessita: i think it's probably got an empty diff because the debian bits are included in the "upstream tarball" that got generated when you did debuild -S [16:12] argh can i disable show desktop in alt+tab switcher? [16:13] i never need to switch to nautilus background window with alt-tab... [16:17] rye: it's even more fun when nautilus isn't running. [16:17] dobey, yeah, then it simply switches to nothing [16:18] ralsina: when you have another review slot, would you please review gatox's https://code.launchpad.net/~diegosarmentero/ubuntu-sso-client/pages-migration/+merge/91331 ? is the first branch that moves stuff from wizard back to sso [16:18] nessita: now's a good time ! [16:18] rye: exactly [16:18] ralsina: is bis but is all code moved from installer to sso [16:18] nessita: ack [16:23] lunchtime! [16:25] dobey, bug #924472 [16:25] Launchpad bug 924472 in unity (Ubuntu) (and 1 other project) "Add option to hide 'Show Desktop' in switcher (affects: 2) (heat: 111)" [Low,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/924472 [16:26] yeah i don't want it configurable. i want it gone; i see no good use for it ever. if it's that useful, put a button on the launcher right on top of the trash icon, for it. [16:27] rye: sotty, I had to something else [16:27] I will sent the log directory now [16:27] rye: done [16:28] restarting [16:29] rye: there's no backend process anymore [16:29] only this: jeroen 2903 1 0 16:38 ? 00:00:11 /usr/bin/python /usr/lib/ubuntuone-client/ubuntuone-syncdaemon [16:31] alecu, ping? [16:31] jeroen-, now run ubuntuone-control-panel-gtk [16:31] mandel, pong [16:31] alecu, may I have some help from you, or are you too busy? [16:31] rye: ok [16:31] mandel, yes, no prob. [16:32] still doing the loading stuff [16:32] alecu, do you rember the command used in the tests to get the gsettings ('gsettings list-recursively org.gnome.system.proxy') [16:33] alecu, well, in my integration tests with gsettings I change the gsettings with the gio lib, it does correctly change them yet when I pdb the command returns the old values [16:33] alecu, while blocking the test in pdb I run the command from a terminal and the correct values appear.. got any clue on why would this happen? [16:34] mandel, no... no idea. [16:34] mandel, anyway: I'm not sure how safe it is to change the desktop settings from our tests... [16:35] alecu, not good, that is fore sure, I'm looking at the code working and later patching subprocess [16:35] alecu, and assume that it return the correct value [16:36] mandel, cool. I do that too in my tests [16:36] alecu, is the most 'unit' way to do it.. but well I'm not going to waste time in this approach [16:37] mandel, hmmm... I think I have it... [16:37] alecu, tell me, tell me [16:37] mandel, we should be pointing the dconf env vars to our own directory [16:37] alecu, uh.. much nicer! [16:37] mandel, (env vars or whatever is needed) [16:38] mandel, remember: gsettings uses dconf. And dconf uses a daemon to write settings, but uses direct file access to read settings. [16:39] mandel, anyway: do not waste more than an hour trying to make this run, because it's something that we can do later. [16:39] alecu, yes, I won't, is not worth it atm [16:39] great [16:39] rye: i should make a .deb of my hack to use the gnome theme, in unity [16:40] mandel, $DCONF_PROFILE: http://live.gnome.org/dconf/SystemAdministrators [16:40] jeroen-, interesting, ok, could you please shut down control panel and backend and run control panel backend directly [16:40] alecu, thx, I'll take it from here [16:40] jeroen-, DEBUG=True /usr/lib/ubuntuone-control-panel/ubuntuone-control-panel-backend [16:41] gatox, nessita +1 on pages-migration [16:41] rye: ok wait [16:41] I closed the control panel [16:41] now only the syncdaemon is running [16:41] mandel, so, the pdb issue you mention is probably that the test dbus-daemon instance is starting a new dconf-* daemon [16:42] jeroen-, DEBUG=True ubuntuone-control-panel-gtk [16:42] rye: ok I run that line starting with debug now? or should I kill the syncdeamon first? [16:42] jeroen-, no, syncdaemon is working fine, that's control panel which has some issues [16:42] ok [16:42] alecu, yeah, we need to get that right [16:43] ok [16:43] i start those two lines [16:43] first the backend [16:43] rye: backend started. shows a few lines [16:43] mandel, it sounds right for me to start a test dconf-whatever daemon instance ... but it should be using a modified DCONF_PROFILE pointing to _trial_temp, and it should be used both for reads and writes [16:44] nesmaybe we can create a minimal script using gireactor and dbus to try to have a minimal test case? something that just checks for network perhaps, and exposes a simple interface? [16:44] mandel, that way we integration tests can muck around with the proxy settings without touching the real settings. [16:44] alecu, that sounds like work that should go into ubuntu one dev tools [16:44] rye: what must I do now? start DEBUG=True ubuntuone-control-panel-gtk on another terminal? [16:44] jeroen-, ok, does it start showing memory errors when you run the frontend in another terminal? [16:45] jeroen-, yep [16:45] alecu, yet, if I want to get everything that we want to get out this week it will have to be postponed [16:45] mandel, right. I'm proposing that we do it ***not*** right now. [16:45] mandel, I much rather take a patch or a fake [16:45] alecu, I'll file a bug against u1-dev-tools :) [16:47] rye: no memory errors [16:47] I will paste debug-lines on pastebin [16:47] well, the ubuntu paste [16:48] nesinterestingly, C-c worked for me in syncdaemon :) [16:48] jeroen-, does the control panel come up with all the values? [16:48] wtf [16:48] oh [16:48] rye: no [16:48] nessita: interestingly, C-c worked for me in syncdaemon :) [16:49] just the same as before, loading loading [16:49] nessita: maybe we can create a minimal script using gireactor and dbus to try to have a minimal test case? something that just checks for network perhaps, and exposes a simple interface? [16:49] dobey: C-c ? [16:49] jeroen-, ok, if this does not work we should try restarting syncdaemon to see whether anything changes [16:49] hi all [16:50] rye: http://paste.ubuntu.com/832832/ the two outputs are seperated by ========'s [16:50] nessita, approved [16:50]