[12:53] <hobgoblin> I know it's not a 'xubuntu' package - but shortcuts appear to have just stopped working in clementine - anyone else lost shortcuts at all in the last 24 hours
[19:36] <micahg> ochosi: BTW, thunderbird icon issue seems fixed now :)
[19:40] <knome> "seems"? :)
[19:41] <knome> micahg, did you close the bug?
[19:50] <knome> madnick, ?
[19:51] <knome> mr_pouit, where can i follow the status of shimmer-themes being accepted/not accepted to repositories?
[19:51] <mr_pouit> knome: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/precise/+queue
[19:51] <knome> mr_pouit, thanks!
[19:52] <knome> ochosi, how does gathering a set of wallpapers with xfce look?
[19:53] <mr_pouit> knome: when you can't find it in this page anymore, it's either accepted or rejected :p
[19:53] <knome> heheh, so what do i do then to know?
[19:53] <mr_pouit> if it's rejected, I will receive a mail with the reasons, so you can ask me :P
[19:54] <knome> ok :P
[19:54] <mr_pouit> https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/shimmer-themes << and when it's accepted, you'll see a package here
[19:55] <knome> righto
[20:10] <mr_pouit> knome: btw, shall I add alacarte to the seeds?
[20:10] <knome> mr_pouit, do we have space?
[20:12] <hobgoblin> Evening - anyone using clementine or at even have it installed but not using it ;) If there is - do your keyboard shortcuts still work?
[20:12] <Unit193> ^^ 12.04
[20:12] <mr_pouit> knome: yes and no :P
[20:13] <hobgoblin> indeed - thought this was the channel for that Unit193 :)
[20:13] <knome> mr_pouit, no because... ?
[20:13] <Unit193> hobgoblin: No, this is the devel channel, #ubuntu+1 is +1 support :P
[20:13] <mr_pouit> I think we're oversized on desktop/amd64 and alternate/*
[20:14] <knome> mr_pouit, does it look like we can fit it in for release in amd64?
[20:14] <hobgoblin> wrong channel then 
[20:15] <mr_pouit> knome: let's see again once we replaced murrine-themes by shimmer-themes
[20:15] <knome> okay, i'd say postpone seeding until that
[23:42] <ochosi> knome: well i hope we can get it into 4.10, but that doesn't mean much for precise
[23:42] <ochosi> knome: so i'd say for precise that ship might've sailed
[23:43] <knome> heh, so, do you have *any* wallpapers gathered?
[23:44] <knome> want to try to include them?
[23:45] <ochosi> no, we do
[23:45] <ochosi> but we haven't finalized the selection yet
[23:45] <ochosi> i think we have ~6 wps atm
[23:45] <knome> aha, right
[23:45] <ochosi> have to talk to stephan about it first i guess
[23:45] <knome> okay
[23:45] <ochosi> half are his, other half are mine
[23:45] <knome> :)
[23:46] <knome> btw, we're under the mainline \o/
[23:47] <knome> http://status.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-precise/group/topic-precise-flavor-xubuntu.html
[23:47] <knome> i talked with iain farrell today
[23:47] <knome> the guy who was leading the canonical design team
[23:48] <knome> he's left canonical, but he's still running the competition to gather good looking community wallpapers to ubuntu every release
[23:48] <knome> i don't know if it would make sense to collaborate with him on that too
[23:49] <knome> afaik they're getting lots of submissions, and we could gather our own of them
[23:49] <ochosi> yeah why not, as long as we get to decide what we want to include autocratically, that is, without public voting or something
[23:49] <ochosi> i thought that was pretty annoying the last time :p
[23:50] <knome> heh
[23:50] <knome> why wouldn't we be able? :P
[23:50] <ochosi> yay, what happened? madnick marked his stuff as done? :D
[23:50] <knome> no, marked some of the menu managing stuff as postponed
[23:50] <ochosi> well actually if we have working alacarte i don't see much use for writing our own stuff
[23:50] <ochosi> i mean it works ok
[23:50] <ochosi> and it's maintained elsewhere (or at least: was)
[23:50] <knome> yeah, i agree
[23:51] <ochosi> oh, while we're on that subject (items on burndown):
[23:51] <ochosi> i pinged Cimi again today about the merge request
[23:51] <knome> but of course, if something is lighter and works better than alarcarte...
[23:51] <knome> aha, right
[23:52] <ochosi> well not sure how _much_ lighter you can be, if the deps are reduced
[23:52] <knome> he was loggeg in to IRC? 
[23:52] <ochosi> yes, he even replied
[23:52] <knome> yeah, i know
[23:52] <knome> lxmenueditor too
[23:52] <knome> if that's in the repos for PP
[23:52] <ochosi> yeah, we don't need yet another menu-editor (in a way)
[23:52] <knome> yeah
[23:52] <ochosi> as long as the others don't fully fail
[23:52] <ochosi> so..
[23:52] <knome> heh
[23:52] <ochosi> the merge request
[23:52] <knome> yeap
[23:52] <knome> i'm listening
[23:53] <ochosi> he simply said that the merge-window closes on the 16th
[23:53] <knome> ...yes
[23:53] <knome> and?
[23:53] <ochosi> it was a 3 word answer to my question
[23:53] <knome> :D
[23:53] <ochosi> that's all
[23:53] <knome> ffft
[23:53] <ochosi> he didn't say anything else
[23:53] <knome> meh
[23:53] <knome> is there ANYBODY ELSE who can do that?
[23:54] <ochosi> nope
[23:54] <ochosi> don't think so
[23:54] <ochosi> but i kinda haven't given up hope that that means he'll merge it
[23:54] <knome> awwh
[23:54] <ochosi> i mean he always acted as if
[23:55] <ochosi> hm, anyway, i really tried to be nice about it and all, but i feel a bit annoyed/ignored
[23:55] <knome> maybe i should mail him
[23:55] <knome> what's the merge url
[23:56] <ochosi> nah, not sure
[23:56] <ochosi> that might just annoy him and not really raise our chances
[23:56] <ochosi> he's aware of it, that's all i wanted to make sure of
[23:56] <knome> right
[23:56] <ochosi> if he doesn't merge it for precise there's _precisely_ nothing we can do about it
[23:56] <knome> if that's not done more close to the freeze, i can mail him then
[23:56] <ochosi> sure
[23:57] <ochosi> so anyway, i still have the stupid bluebird-gtk3 port ahead of me... :/
[23:57] <knome> brb
[23:57] <ochosi> the shortcut-keys mostly need discussion, right?
[23:59] <ochosi> how come the discussion about the lightdm theme hasn't been started yet? (i mean the mockups have been out there since november or something and the theme would really look like them)