[00:00] <c_smith> hmmmm, that would be a problem
[00:00] <GridCube_> this one does
[00:00] <GridCube_> i mean thunar just does handle samba shares
[00:00] <c_smith> is the plugin configurable?
[00:00] <GridCube_> i don't know, i never used it
[00:01] <c_smith> and I'm not just trying to access them, I need to set one up myself, as I'm the only one in my house who knows what a SMB share is.
[00:01] <GridCube_> well, i have to go :) good luck
[00:01] <GridCube_> !samba
[00:01] <c_smith> cya
[01:43] <dgtlmoon> greets
[01:43] <dgtlmoon> can i get a copy of someones sources.list from 11.10? i broke mine heh :)
[01:44] <dgtlmoon> please :)
[01:45] <dgtlmoon> xubuntu377,
[01:53] <levitsky> ubottu ?
[01:53] <levitsky> why don't you have ubottu?
[04:09] <finny388> hello
[04:11] <finny388> goodnight
[04:35] <_pg_> anyone have problems creating truecrypt volumes under xubuntu 11.10?
[04:38] <_pg_> or, you know- has anyone successfully done it?
[04:39] <Unit193> What is your problem with it?
[04:39] <Unit193> Errors?
[04:45] <_pg_> it gets to 100% and then freezes the whole box. 3 times in a row
[04:46] <_pg_> trying to create a TC container. not hidden. AES and R something 160 for the hash. 100, 80, 60GB all did the same thing. EXT3
[04:46] <_pg_> im trying another one now, 30gb, ext4.
[04:47] <_pg_> tc hangs, or the tc windows go blank, UI elements start to slow down, mouse moves but nothing clicks, and i have to force it down.
[04:52] <_pg_> sometimes before the "enter an admin password" prompt. sometimes after
[04:52] <Unit193> Try a smaller size....
[04:52] <_pg_> oh hey the 30GB one worked.
[04:54] <_pg_> here goes 50gbs ext4.
[05:01] <_pg_> why is ext3 such a bitch in tc containers? coincidence?
[05:03] <_pg_> if im creating tc containers in a encrypted install of xubuntu, the default way, through the installer, is that just too much crypto? is that why it hangs/fails maybe?
[05:03] <_pg_> tc and flush-encryptfs are my top 2 in top
[05:04] <Unit193> Could be slowing it down a bit, you could always try testing and see ;)
[05:04] <_pg_> 200+ cpu btw the two of them whn making a tc container
[05:35] <c_smith> what is the package that installs the Thunar share plugin?
[06:17] <SilentDrgn> Good evening folks.
[07:44] <ktwo> Hi, default i had rtl8192 in lsmod, but i need to use a custom compiled driver (8192cu). after reboot it will use rtl8192 , and i have to manually  -r
[07:44] <ktwo> how can i change this to autoload the 8192cu instead of rtl8192
[07:52] <Unit193> !blacklist |is this what you are looking for?
[07:54] <ktwo> ok thanks
[08:30] <Orbital_sFear> anyone have a way to run the LMDE XFCE theme on xubuntu 12.04?
[08:31] <Orbital_sFear> I think unity and gnome3 suck, so I need to change, not happy with kde's snail speed, and really don't want to jump ship off debian
[08:32] <Unit193> Just find where they host the theme and put it in ~/.theme (or is it ~/.themes? I can never remember)
[08:33] <Orbital_sFear> okay
[08:44] <xuser1> how can i change user profile photo in xubuntu?
[08:45] <Unit193> What version of Xubuntu?
[08:45] <xuser1> 11.10
[08:45] <Unit193> Take a jpg, put it in your home dir, and name it ".face" (for older versions, may still apply.)
[08:47] <Unit193> Well...
[08:48] <Orbital_sFear> does it have to be a jpg? can it be a png?
[08:48] <Orbital_sFear> not to jump in the middle...
[08:48] <Unit193> He's gone, feel free to :P
[08:48] <Orbital_sFear> crashed his system
[10:52] <xubuntu551> Hello
[10:52]  * xubuntu551 is looking for help to inszall Xubuntu on a CF Card on a DELL D420 (slow harddisk)... has anybody ever tried this?
[10:53] <xubuntu551> Vielleicht sogar auf deutsch?
[11:00] <bazhang> !de
[11:07] <xubuntu551> Thank you
[13:56] <artao> say. can anyone recommend a GUI monitor calibration utility? i want to adjust gamma and color-cast .. and be able to save my settings on reboot
[14:32] <xubuntu173> xubuntu 12.04 install
[14:36] <baizon> indeed :)
[14:37] <hobgoblin> 12.10 is more fun
[14:37] <hobgoblin> :)
[14:38] <baizon> 12.10 ... xfce 4.10, wayland 1.0
[14:38] <baizon> yes indeed, will be fun
[14:39] <hobgoblin> :)
[14:39]  * hobgoblin will only be joining in on one machine - the other's will wait for the next lts ... 
[15:17] <pjotter> Hi everybody. Is there anybody here who installed Photoshop under wine in Xubuntu? I tried several photoshop and wine versions, but they all seem to crash.
[15:26] <TheSheep> pjotter: file a bug report at Adobe ;)
[15:26] <TheSheep> pjotter: I think that photoshop does too much custom stuff to run on wine
[15:27] <pjotter> I'll first try some things I just found on the web. Has something to do with the DLL's.
[15:27] <pjotter> TheSheep: I have always run Photoshop under wine on Ubuntu without any problems.
[15:27] <TheSheep> pjotter: there are also some problems with wacom tablets on wine
[15:28] <TheSheep> pjotter: wine on ubuntu is exactly the same as on xubuntu
[15:28] <TheSheep> pjotter: it's the same package in the same repository
[15:28] <pjotter> Well, I just tried. Under Ubuntu 11.10 no problem. Xubuntu 11.10 -> does not work.
[15:29] <TheSheep> pjotter: must be difference in configuration
[15:29] <pjotter> Maybe it has somethnig to do with the way Xubuntu handles windows?
[15:30] <pjotter> When I start Photoshop, it seems to hang. When I start clicking on the window and move my mouse a bit, sometimes it wil suddenly start to work. But most of the time, it hangs and I have to kill it.
[15:32] <GridCube> pjotter, http://appdb.winehq.org/objectManager.php?sClass=application&iId=17
[15:38] <pjotter> Oh, wow. I seem to have fixed the problem. Added some DLL's to wine did the trick. It now runs flawlessly. :)
[15:39] <baizon> xD
[15:42] <pjotter> Even my wacom works. Nice :)
[16:05] <EvilResistance> whats the package name for the desktop environment runtime?  I dont want ot install Xubuntu but i do want to install the XFCE environment.
[16:06] <TheSheep> EvilResistance: it's not a signle package
[16:06] <TheSheep> single*
[16:06] <TheSheep> EvilResistance: basically do 'apt-cache search xfce'
[16:07] <EvilResistance> TheSheep, if i'm not mistaken, (when I installed KDE to test it), i only needed one of the package names in order to install, and the rest of the depends were included
[16:07]  * EvilResistance points at aptitude
[16:10] <pjotter> Well, guys. That's about it, I guess. Testing is complete. I have my videocard, my soundcard, my NAS, e-mail, internet and photoshop, all working now. So, I am ready to make the transition from Ubuntu to Xubuntu now. :D
[20:07] <c_smith> hey, I'm trying to cennect an Acer Iconia Tab a100 to Xubuntu, I plugged it in and nothing popped up, and Gigolo shows nothing.
[20:14] <newby> Hello, I have a problem regarding a booting from recovery partition with freedos after xubuntu has been removed
[20:14] <newby> I have a recovery partition from my NTB manufacturer with freedos and reinstalation program
[20:14] <newby> but after unistalling (deleting) xubuntu
[20:15] <newby> the grub bootloader cannot boot from /dev/sda4 because it is looking for xubuntu. Is there any way to let grub know. that he must boot from /dev/sda4, where freedos is installed?
[20:17] <newby> and if that cannot be solved, is there any way I can boot xubuntu with loading everything to rajm, so I can copy the recovery data to my USB stick?
[20:17] <newby> *RAM
[20:20] <newby> thanks in advance
[20:30] <TheSheep> newby: you can boot from the cd or the usb key
[20:31] <newby> was that a question?
[20:32] <TheSheep> newby: no
[20:32] <newby> OK, so you mean that I can boot freedos from the usb key?
[20:32] <TheSheep> newby: it's also possible to tell grub to boot from other partition, but I don't know how to do it with grub2
[20:32] <c_smith> hey, I'm trying to mount my Acer Iconia Tab A100 in Xubuntu, and the guide they give is of no help. can anyone here help?
[20:32] <TheSheep> newby: you can boot xubuntu from an usb key
[20:32] <newby> I have already done that
[20:33] <newby> but I'm not sure how should 8I proceed from that point
[20:33] <TheSheep> newby: what do you want to do exactly?
[20:33] <newby> I've tried several tutorials for grub
[20:33] <newby> I want to tell the grub to boot from /dev/sda4
[20:34] <newby> and this recovery partition is hidden
[20:34] <TheSheep> newby: xubuntu doesn't see it?
[20:34] <newby> nope, unless I mount it with the mount command
[20:34] <newby> however
[20:34] <TheSheep> ah, then it's not hidden
[20:35] <TheSheep> newby: what do you plan to do once you boot it?
[20:35] <newby> when I've installed xubuntu, grub had sen this partition
[20:35] <c_smith> I'll be waiting patiently for help
[20:35] <newby> run the recovery program
[20:35] <newby> and install the system that has been there
[20:35] <newby> when I purchased the notebook
[20:35] <TheSheep> newby: could you boot to that partition when you had xubuntu on it?
[20:36] <newby> yeah, but the recovery program does'n t like the linux partitions
[20:36] <TheSheep> c_smith: what are you trying to do exactly and how it is failing?
[20:36] <c_smith> TheSheep, simple: mount it so I can put some music on it.
[20:37] <TheSheep> c_smith: and how are you trying to do it and what is the error you are getting and at which point?
[20:37] <TheSheep> c_smith: is the instruction you are following online somewhere?
[20:37] <TheSheep> newby: by "doesn't like" do you mean that it refuses to run when they are present?
[20:37] <newby> I'm trying to run the recovery program that is on /dev/sda4 and job of this program is to install the OEM windows 7 with drivers
[20:38] <newby> yes
[20:38] <newby> it likes only FAT32,NTFS partitions
[20:38] <c_smith> no error, the thing just doesn't mount, follow http://www.acertabletforum.com/forum/acer-iconia-tab-general-discussions/129-connecting-via-usb-linux-ubuntu.html
[20:39] <c_smith> ooops, wrong site, http://www.acertabletforum.com/forum/acer-iconia-tab-general-discussions/129-connecting-via-usb-linux-ubuntu.html
[20:39] <c_smith> TheSheep, http://www.acertabletforum.com/forum/acer-iconia-tab-general-discussions/129-connecting-via-usb-linux-ubuntu.html
[20:39] <TheSheep> c_smith: that's the same link :)
[20:39] <TheSheep> c_smith: 3 times
[20:39] <c_smith> ah, my bad, sorry
[20:40] <c_smith> looked different in Firefox, strange
[20:40] <c_smith> anywho, I followed that guide to a "T" and it doesn't mount.
[20:40] <TheSheep> newby: if you can boot to freedos somehow, doing 'fdsik /mbr' will remove grub and install windows' bootloader instead
[20:40] <c_smith> USB Debugging and everything.
[20:41] <newby> with it
[20:41] <newby> I can't because grub interfere
[20:41] <TheSheep> newby: you don't have a cd with windows or something like that?
[20:42] <newby> I do
[20:42] <TheSheep> newby: you can boot that?
[20:42] <newby> Yes.but this CD is an OEM installer of windows
[20:43] <newby> It is Acer Recovery DVD
[20:43] <newby> and when I boot that it erases everything
[20:43] <newby> I know
[20:43] <TheSheep> newby: and that's not what you want?
[20:43] <TheSheep> newby: I thought you wanted to reinstall the system?
[20:43] <newby> nope, because this DVD is for my desktop computer
[20:44] <newby> Yes but I want to run recovery program for my notebook
[20:44] <newby> and the manufacturer of the notebook is different
[20:44] <TheSheep> can you just run the windows console from that cd without running the installer?
[20:44] <newby> nope
[20:44] <TheSheep> I remember you could do that back with windows 95 by pressing f8 when it booted
[20:45] <newby> It is automnatic-one click recovery
[20:45] <TheSheep> (sorry, 95 is my last windows)
[20:45] <newby> automatic
[20:45] <TheSheep> aww
[20:46] <newby> But I can try something
[20:46] <TheSheep> newby: I guess you could try learning how to boot that freedos with grub2, I don't really know, but you could also ask in #ubuntu or even in #grub
[20:46] <newby> hmm
[20:46] <TheSheep> newby: sorry for not being able to help
[20:47] <newby> not at all
[20:47] <newby> Can't xubuntu be installed on NTFS?
[20:47] <newby> I have never tried that, but
[20:47] <knome> or ##freedos?
[20:47] <newby> It would help my case
[20:48] <TheSheep> newby: it sort of can, it can create a large file in ntfs partition and create its own filesystem inside that file
[20:48] <TheSheep> newby: but that's probably not what you want
[20:48] <newby> that would help
[20:48] <TheSheep> it wouldn't remove grub
[20:48] <newby> I just need an NTFS partition
[20:48] <newby> and the grub can boot /dev/sda4 afterwardsd
[20:49] <TheSheep> newby: can't you just have a small ext4 partiion for xubuntu and the rest of the disk with ntfs partition for windows?
[20:49] <TheSheep> newby: many users do that
[20:50] <TheSheep> newby: you could even remove that ext4 parition later
[20:51] <TheSheep> c_smith: so it shows in lsusb?
[20:51] <TheSheep> c_smith: sorry for the delay
[20:55] <c_smith> TheSheep, yes, it shows in lsusb
[20:56] <TheSheep> c_smith: does it say anything in dmesg after your try to mount it?
[20:56] <TheSheep> c_smith: wait, you try to make it mount automatically after connecting, yes?
[20:57] <TheSheep> c_smith: did you try a manual mount command?
[20:57] <c_smith> no, and I don't know how to manually mount.
[20:58] <TheSheep> since the fstab line is: mtpfs     /media/a500     fuse     user,noauto,allow_other      0      0
[20:58] <TheSheep> then the mount command would be:
[20:58] <TheSheep> mount mtpfs -t fuse -o user,noauto,allow_other /media/a500
[20:59] <TheSheep> actually
[20:59] <TheSheep> skip the "-o user,noauto,allow_other"
[21:00] <c_smith> oh, hey, the first command seemed to work!
[21:00] <TheSheep> \o/
[21:02] <c_smith> now to save the command.
[21:02] <c_smith> thanks for your help
[21:04] <c_smith> TheSheep, also, is there a way to use this command to automount the tablet?
[21:04] <TheSheep> c_smith: it's probably something in thunar's configuration that makes it no show that mount point
[21:04] <c_smith> ah, ok
[21:05] <TheSheep> c_smith: but I could never figure out that part
[21:05] <c_smith> ok, I'll be content with this.
[21:05] <TheSheep> c_smith: btw, once you have it in fstab, just 'mount /media/a500' should work
[21:05] <TheSheep> it will take all the other parameters from fstab
[21:05] <c_smith> ah, ok, and this first time adds it to fstab?
[21:05] <TheSheep> no
[21:06] <TheSheep> you added it as part of that tutorial
[21:06] <c_smith> ah, ok
[21:06] <c_smith> thanks again for your time and help with this.
[21:07] <c_smith> going to try mounting the tablet with just the /media/a500 after it finishes copying.
[21:08] <TheSheep> oh, and use 'umount' the same wait to unmount it
[21:10] <c_smith> yeah, I've used umount before, frankly, I'm more comfortable use CLI :P
[21:10] <c_smith> this tablet just mystified me on what was going on.
[21:11] <c_smith> I've used Mount before, mainly to mount easier to use things.
[21:11] <TheSheep> c_smith: I think you can tell it to run a certain command when a device is connected
[21:11] <TheSheep> c_smith: in thunar's preferences
[21:11] <TheSheep> c_smith: under advanced
[21:16] <TheSheep> c_smith: except that that "tablet" is for graphic tablets like wacom
[21:17] <c_smith> hmmmmm, interesting. not sure if your talking about a tablet used for graphic design and the sort or what.
[22:00] <Newby> TheSheep: I've found a sollution
[22:01] <Newby> I just reformatted the partitions to NTSC using gparted and because the bios has a bootloader built inside himself
[22:02] <Newby> the restoration began
[22:02] <Newby> I had to get to rid of the bootloader though
[22:02] <Newby> grub I mean
[22:02] <Newby> I have wiped mbr
[22:03] <Newby> but thanks for help TheSheep, I really appreciate it
[22:03] <Newby> :-)
[22:11] <Newby> But I sill wonder....Is it really possible for the manufacturers of notebooks put a small bootloader inside bios, that checks for specific partition and it boots up only if there isn't any linux bootloader?
[22:12] <TheSheep> newby: everything is possible
[22:12] <Newby> I have never heard of bootloader, that has been built inside bios
[22:12] <TheSheep> newby: where's will there's a way
[22:13] <Newby> but apperaently that is the case, because when the bios starts it says: Press F9 to activate Recovery option, and when that is key pressed, it boots up the RECOVERY partition
[22:13] <TheSheep> newby: heard of coreboot?
[22:14] <Newby> nope
[22:14] <TheSheep> it's an open source bios with bootloader
[22:15] <TheSheep> but only works on some hardware
[22:15] <Newby> I'm reding it
[22:15] <Newby> reading
[22:15] <TheSheep> so it's possible, just the manufacturers don't care
[22:16] <Newby> don't care about what?
[22:16] <TheSheep> linux
[22:17] <TheSheep> or anything not shipped with their hardware, really
[22:18] <literal_username> Hi all. I'm new here. I know Slackware and Arch pretty well, but the Debian-based world is a bit foreign to me. I'm setting up xubuntu on a netbook, and when I `apt-cache search htop` there are no results. Can anyone point me in the right direction?
[22:18] <TheSheep> !sources
[22:19] <literal_username> TheSheep: Thanks. That makes sense. I figured htop is common enough that it should be in one of the repos available by default, but maybe not. I'll investigate it.
[22:19] <TheSheep> !info htop
[22:20] <TheSheep> it's in universe
[22:24] <Newby> I'm out of luck with coreboot, My MB isn't supported
[22:25] <Newby> which makes me sad.....but thank you for letting me know
[22:28] <literal_username> TheSheep: So, I do indeed have the universe repo in use, which seems to be the default. I can successfully find htop using "Ubuntu Software Center". But neither apt-cache nor Synaptics shows any result for it.
[22:29] <literal_username> TheSheep: Oh, wait, maybe I wasn't using it...
[22:30] <literal_username> TheSheep: I have no idea. I clicked "Use This Source" in "Ubuntu Software Center" and entered my password. The button then became disabled, and... and... the app might be hung.
[22:31]  * literal_username does not enjoy using graphical user interfaces.
[22:40] <literal_username> So I don't trust what the "Software Sources" panel tells me. I want to edit sources.list. Fine. So I type `sudo -e /etc/apt/sources.list` and it launches nano. Is that the default editor? I have too much pride to use it. So I try launching vim. Synaptic says vim's installed, but typing it on the command line gives me instructions on which packages it can be found in. Frustrating! Why is vi not the default $EDITOR anyway?
[22:45] <literal_username> `sudo apt-get install vim`: "Package vim is not available, but is referred to by another package. This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or is only available from another source. E: Package 'vim' has no installation candidate" WOW. That's shocking stuff for a default Linux install of any flavor.
[22:46] <knome> no, not really.
[22:46] <knome> nano works perfectly well for most, and if you really want vim, it's not too hard either.
[22:46] <knome> !info vim
[22:47] <knome> !info vi
[22:47] <literal_username> knome: Yes. It's vim. It should be available in the default install, or readily available to install otherwise. Who uses nano!?
[22:47] <nanotube> literal_username: you must have something wrong with your sources. both htop and vim show up as available for me
[22:47] <knome> many of our users.
[22:47] <nanotube> and i haven't done anything with my sources.list to make it so...
[22:47] <knome> literal_username, nano isn't bad, really.
[22:47] <literal_username> knome: Notepad's pretty good too. You can use it with wine.
[22:48] <knome> literal_username, please don't troll
[22:48] <literal_username> knome: Sorry. I'm frustrated.
[22:48] <knome> can you try to apt-get update first and see if you can install vim then?
[22:49] <knome> might be something wrong with the servers, or sth
[22:49] <literal_username> ok
[22:49] <Unit193> It's in natty and oneiric main, easy to install (and for people that use it, should know how to do that)
[22:51] <literal_username> Sorry about my bad mood. I thought the system was up-to-date. That's what Synaptic told me. I did `apt-get update` and it looks like that was all I needed.
[22:51] <literal_username> knome: Thanks for your patient help.
[22:54] <knome> np :)
[22:54] <knome> brb, cooking requires my attention
[22:55] <nanotube> literal_username: ah you did say you're not from debian-land... that explains your failure to run an apt-get update. :) well now you know.
[22:55] <literal_username> nanotube: Indeed. I'm still not sure why that's not build into Synaptic though.
[22:58] <literal_username> *built
[22:58] <nanotube> hm well, some automatic updating of particular sources when user tries to install a package would probably be a good usability improvement. file an upstream bug report! :)
[22:59] <literal_username> nanotube: Good advice. Will do.
[23:00] <nanotube> :)
[23:06] <knome> i'm sure this is considered, but why not.
[23:07] <Dayofswords> I have a question, can the "other..." login option be used to log into a remote computer? I think either ubuntu or kubuntu has a remote computer option
[23:24] <Newby> Goodbye everyone
[23:24] <Newby> thank you for your help¨
[23:25] <Newby> It's nice to see that linux(xubuntu) users are willing to help a newbie like me