/srv/irclogs.ubuntu.com/2012/02/08/#lubuntu.txt

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rawfodogis there a way for lubuntu to use power saving for laptop ?02:59
rawfodogI would like the screen to turn off / stand by03:00
Unit193Should have options in xscreensaver for turning off the screen03:01
rawfodogI dont think the screen actually TURNS OFF03:02
rawfodogit just goes black03:02
rawfodog(but there is still light)03:07
pcroquerawfodog: Try the Monitor tab in xfce4-power-manager-settings. Maybe that will do what you want.03:07
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asmandwell, it finished installation09:15
asmandbut didn't boot afterwards09:15
asmandgrub comes up09:15
asmandbut selecting lubuntu renders a black screen, and nothing else09:15
asmandrecovery mode boots09:15
Ahmucksuggest an e-book software conversion reader?13:50
asmandAhmuck: calibre13:51
Ahmuckso, how do you download an ibook13:57
AhmuckePub13:57
Myrttiwhat do you mean?14:06
Ahmuckhttp://itunes.apple.com/gb/book/collins-easy-learning-spanish/id436278047?mt=11&affId=1815483&ign-mpt=uo%3D414:15
MyrttiI usually try to buy my books in a format I know14:18
AhmuckePub to Calibre14:20
Ahmuckso i can use on portable devices14:20
arno__hi14:27
arno__got a question: my lubuntu 11.10 came with banshee somehow. how can that be?14:28
Ahmuckarno__: sudo aptitude purge banshee14:33
Ahmuckor apt-get as well14:34
arno2does lubuntu 11.10 come with XFCE power manager?14:39
Ahmuckno se14:40
pcroquearno2: I believe 11.10 uses XFCE4 power manager by default14:43
arno2pcroque: alright thanks, had me confused for a moment :-)14:44
pcroquearno2: you can access the settings manager with the command: xfce4-power-manager-settings14:49
Ahmuckhasta luego14:52
freerouteI'm unable to add an icon to the desktop, I go to LXDE menu > Sound & Video > hover over Audacious > right click -> Add to desktop15:06
freerouteand nothing happens15:07
freerouteif I remember correctly, once I logout and log back in again, the icon will be there15:07
freeroutealso, the LXDE menu will stay there even if I click on something else15:07
arno2Is there a pcmanfm equivalent to F3 in nautilus under ubuntu? I want to split the window so that I don't need 2 separate windows to drag and drop files...15:57
bioterrornope15:58
arno2Too bad. Thanks!15:59
arno2Another question: If I press alt/F2, the launcher starts in the background so that I have to click on it before I can start typing. What can I do about this?16:06
bioterrorwasnt that dixed?16:10
bioterrorfixed16:10
bioterrorslow launchpad16:10
pcroqueIt says Fix Released: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/lxpanel/+bug/88941416:11
ubottuUbuntu bug 889414 in lxpanel (Ubuntu) "Run dialog opens up in the background" [Undecided,In progress]16:11
bioterror!bug 76964416:11
ubottuLaunchpad bug 769644 in lxpanel (Ubuntu) "Alt-F2 (or "lxpanelctl run") doesn't work" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/76964416:11
bioterrorfrom pcroque's url post #1616:13
arno2bioterror: So you say it's a known bug? When is it gonna get fixed? Next release?16:20
bioterrorif I got it right16:29
bioterroryou just remove your current configurations16:30
bioterrorlog in again and it will put new ones back16:30
giuseppe60hello16:55
giuseppe60anyone know how to install avidemux in Lubuntu?16:57
pcroquegiuseppe60: I haven't used it...but it looks like it's in the repositories.17:13
giuseppe60pcroque,  hello17:13
pcroquesudo apt-get install avidemux (for the GTK version)17:13
giuseppe60NO  lubuntu software center17:15
pcroqueSorry...can't help you there...I have no experience with the Software Center17:16
phillwgiuseppe60: you do not need software centre to install, use the terminal and issue the command pcroque gave you :)17:17
giuseppe60ok thanks17:18
pcroquegiuseppe60: but leave off the (for the GTK version) part...just type: sudo apt-get install avidemux17:18
giuseppe60I put in terminal  sudo apt-get install avidemux17:19
pcroquegiuseppe60: Yes. Then you will be asked for your login password. And then you will be asked if you want to continue. Once you answer yes it will then install the program.17:21
giuseppe60you are all very nice17:22
pcroqueThanks. Good luck installing. It's not hard. The command-line is your friend :-)17:25
giuseppe60ok installed17:27
DomiHello?17:29
wxlDomi: /17:30
DomiI want to download the Alternate Lubuntu ISO 32 Bit iso but I get a 404 error, can anyone help me17:30
wxltry again17:30
wxlDomi: they disappeared for a little bit17:30
DomiHow are they?17:31
wxlDomi: um, they are good?17:31
DomiThe developer or the iso's?17:31
wxlDomi: the isos disappeared for a small amount of time. they have returned. try again.17:31
DomiThe requested URL /lubuntu-10.10-alternate.iso was not found on this server.17:32
wxl10.10?17:32
wxlwhy not 11.0417:32
wxlor 11.10?17:32
wxlin fact i'm not sure you can even find 11.04 anymore17:33
DomiI thought it is better for old hardware.17:33
wxlDomi: lubuntu *IS* for old hardware.17:33
DomiI want to install it on a 900 Mhz duorn with 250mb ram17:33
wxlDomi: http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/lubuntu/releases/11.10/release/lubuntu-11.10-alternate-i386.iso17:34
DomiThank you very much17:34
wxlDomi: 10.10 if you really want it http://lubuntu.net/blog/lubuntu-1010-released17:35
wxlDomi: that is pre-Canonical and as such i'd consider it, at minimum, less supported17:35
DomiDo I have to install any other programms like drivers for this hardware?17:36
wxlDomi: only one way to find out ;) i'm guessing probably not17:37
DomiOk thanks. I will try17:38
AzertifyHi.17:58
AzertifyI'm midway through the lubuntu installation :317:59
AzertifyCan anyone tell me if it's any good for VMware/VirtualBox? I want to use this as an OS for hosting others, mainly, which is why I chose the lightweight desktop.18:01
wxlAzertify: yep, vbox is fab18:01
AzertifyGreat, I don't have too much experience with vbox, does it perform as well as VMware workstation.18:02
phillwAzertify: just be careful about the Oracle one.... it made a mess of my system! - I'm using kvm from no on!18:02
wxlAzertify: well can't help you as i'm not a big fan of non-free software18:03
wxlAzertify: i'd argue with phillw as i've had nothing but great luck with vbox and i've used it on a variety of different hosts with a variety of different guests18:03
phillwAzertify: try the kvm suite18:03
AzertifyWhat's kvm like?18:03
AzertifyI don't know what files it uses.18:03
phillwwxl: so had I until guest-additions and the new linux kernel fell out!18:03
wxladmittedly i have been meaning to try out kvm18:04
wxlphillw: i use guest-additions on every guest i have!18:04
* wxl calls this one a… PEBKAC18:04
phillwwxl: Azertify https://help.ubuntu.com/community/KVM18:05
phillwQemu is the GUI to use for setting them up, else just use the command line :)18:05
AzertifySounds good.18:06
wxlphillw: am i right that kvm is inheriently part of the linux kernel??18:07
AzertifyInstallation complete, restarting!18:07
phillwwxl: yes, an it "can" cause issues with Oracle.18:08
wxlew no shared folders18:08
wxlor shared clipbaord18:09
wxlmeh i'll stick with my vbox18:09
phillwwxl: that's what Qemu is for :)18:13
wxlphillw: qemu adds all that?18:13
wxlphillw: did you notice it can emulate powerpc?18:16
phillwwxl: i'm learning it myself... starting 2day :)18:20
phillwI did have a play with it on lubuntu.18:20
wxli did try the other way around once18:21
wxladmittedly it was with bochs18:21
wxlhttp://bochs.sourceforge.net/18:22
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giuseppe60hello19:13
wxlhi giuseppe6019:13
giuseppe60wxl,  hello19:13
giuseppe60"Safari" you can put it on Lubuntu?19:19
wxlgiuseppe60: afaik only via wine19:20
giuseppe60wine ??19:20
bioterror!wine | giuseppe6019:21
ubottugiuseppe60: WINE is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux - More information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine - Search the !AppDB for application compatibility ratings - Join #winehq for application help - See !virtualizers for running Windows (or another OS) inside Ubuntu19:21
wxlgiuseppe60: it's not always seamless/fully functional so i'd suggest a different browser19:21
wxlgiuseppe60: given you were messing with midori yesterday should i assume you want a webkit browser?19:22
giuseppe60already19:23
wxl?19:25
giuseppe60wxl,  because firefox, chromium, opera, sometimes crashes web pages: too heavy19:28
wxlgiuseppe60: try arora or dillo19:30
wxlgiuseppe60: dillo will DEFINITELY work, though it's a little limited on features19:30
wxlgiuseppe60: also it may be useful to look at which web pages are crashing. if flash/java pages are crashing, we should explore what flash/java you have installed19:31
wxlgiuseppe60: in other words, it may not be the browser at all19:31
giuseppe60wxl,   the problem is Java19:32
wxlgiuseppe60: which java do you have installed?19:32
wxlgiuseppe60: (i might point out: java is really heavy)19:33
wxlgiuseppe60: i avoid using java like the plague19:33
giuseppe60"arora" not19:33
giuseppe60wxl, java is installed on my pc19:34
wxlgiuseppe60: it's heavyweight on any system19:34
giuseppe60wxl,   Java is not installed automatically?19:37
wxli wonder…19:38
wxl!java | giuseppe6019:38
ubottugiuseppe60: To just use java you need a "Java Runtime Environment" (JRE) and/or a browser plugin. If that is not sufficient you will need a "Java Development Kit" (JDK) aka "Software  Development Kit" (SDK).  Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java about how to install one of three current implementations.19:38
giuseppe60wxl,   for I know that java in my system?19:44
wxlgiuseppe60: i have no idea what you're saying19:45
giuseppe60wxl,   speak of  two java19:52
wxlgiuseppe60: yes, there is more than one19:52
leszek_hi19:54
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wxlleszek: howdy19:56
giuseppe60wxl,    is present in the system                 Icedtea java web start------Openjdk java 6 runtime------Plugin icedtea java20:27
Arcahey i have some questions20:49
MrChrisDruif!ask | Arca20:50
ubottuArca: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) See also !patience20:50
Arcai just want to know how well lubuntu 11.10 will work on my dell inspiron 1100 laptop winxp is too slow and ubuntu 10.04 kept having issues20:52
bioterrorArca, try with usb pen drive20:55
phillwArca: try it :) (Using the live version will allow you to check wifi - printers - sound etc, etc).20:55
Arcathis thing cannot boot usb too old20:55
Arcai just dont want to waste my limeted disk supply20:55
phillwArca: what RAM do you have?20:57
bioterrorI hope not RDRAM ;)20:58
bioterroras it is laptop, it's SO-DIMM20:59
phillwbioterror: that is the architecture... SO-DIMM is still Random Accesss Memory for the purposes of working out the spec of computer :)21:00
MrChrisDruifHow much RAM do you have Arca ?21:02
phillwmy poor english strikes again... :-!21:03
Arca512mb21:06
phillwArca: that is plenty for lubuntu :)21:06
leszekmore than enough ;)21:09
Arcahow will it perform on video21:12
leszekdepends on your graphicscard I guess and the driver for it21:12
anliothey i'm getting random crashes with lxpanel, gnome-do and gnome-mplayer.  but they only crash once each time i log in.  help21:15
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leszekkanliot: anything suspicious in .xsession-errors ?21:20
kanliotlemme check21:21
kanliotGdkPixbuf-CRITICAL **: gdk_pixbuf_scale_simple: assertion `dest_width > 0' failed21:23
kanlioti donno21:23
leszekseems not to be the reason21:24
leszekjust paste the .xsession-errors file somewhere (not here, upload it to a nopaste service)21:24
kanliotactually i don't think it's crashed in this logon yet21:25
kanliotok now it crashed21:25
kanliotno nothing in xsession errors21:27
kanliotit was pcmanfm that crashed this time21:27
leszekkanliot: hmm... I am only guessing, but do gnome-mplayer and gnome-do store an icon in the tray ?21:27
kanliotnope21:27
leszekok pcmanfm is not related to lxpanel21:27
leszekhmm...21:27
leszekthan its strange21:27
leszekespecially if there is no error in .xsession-errors21:28
wxlyou guys trying to figure that runaway lxpanel?21:28
kanliotnope21:28
wxlcuz i'll tell you right now it ain't gnome-mplayer21:28
leszekbecause this should be the default log if an application encounters an error and reports it21:28
kanlioti have randome crashes right after loging in21:28
leszekwxl: my guess was the tray in lxpanel crashing it21:29
leszek+is21:29
kanliotanyhow i can code, i'm just not very good21:29
kanliotshould i just build pcmanfm or something?21:30
wxlinteresting21:30
wxlso anything in the tray causes it?21:30
kanliotnope that's not my bug21:30
leszekwxl: that might be the case. Every app that normally stores an icon in the tray could cause a crash when the tray icon should be rendered (normally those errors that cause the crash should be X errors)21:32
leszekat least this is a common error I encountered with tray applications like stalonetray21:33
wxlleszek: thx for the thought. i'll pay attention andlet you knoe if i find any similar things happening21:44
leszekneed to go now, n8 @ all21:53
labhi, i am having some trouble with lxdm22:05
labfor some reason, i cannot start it via 'startx', but if i install lxde-common, i can start the ugly lxde session via startx22:06
Silverlionlab: pls be a little more specific?22:06
labbasically when I type 'startx', I get an error that it loses connection to the X Server22:07
Silverlionlab: pls hang on a sec. trying to get you a supporter ;) i am not familiar with this22:08
Unit193Silverlion: You can help22:08
Unit193lab: Use startlubuntu22:08
Unit193lab: What version of Lubuntu did you install?22:08
SilverlionUnit193: nope i can't ^^22:08
labLubuntu 11.1022:09
Unit193Yep, try startlubuntu22:10
venik212When I click on an app from the main menu, it should open22:11
labUnit193: thanks, I just tried that.22:11
venik212it does in gnome/kde/Unity, but some apps do not start in Lubuntu (R and python are two examples)22:11
venik212any help?22:12
Unit193R? And python is a scripting language, basically not exactly something you "open"22:12
holsteinyeah... python wont "open"... venik212: try starting things from the terminal and read errors22:13
venik212I tried-- it opens with no errors that way (from the terminal)22:14
Unit193You should open the desktop file and see if something is amiss22:14
holsteinyup... the menu entry is bad somehow...22:14
venik212holstein-- remind me where the desktop files are hiding?22:15
labUnit193: With startlubuntu, nothing happens. No outout22:15
venik212config/autostart?22:16
Unit193/usr/share/applications/firefox.desktop22:16
Unit193lab: Is X running? You *may* have to start it first22:16
venik212yes, X is running22:16
venik212otherwise I would not have a gui menu, I think..22:17
Unit193venik212: That wasn't to you22:17
venik212ok22:17
labUnit193: good point. that's what was wrong.22:18
venik212in ~/home/user/.config/lxsession/lxde I only find desktop.conf22:18
labUnit193: Thanks22:18
Unit193lab: Yep, had that problem on a core or mini once22:19
Unit193venik212: /usr/share/applications/ is where it should be (firefox was an example)22:19
venik212When I type into the terminal the exec command from the desktop file, it works fine22:25
venik212the file contains: [Desktop Entry] Categories=Education;Science;Math; Comment=Graphical interface to the R environment for statistical computing  Comment[fr]=Environnement graphique pour le logiciel de calcul statistique R  Comment[it]=Interfaccia grafica per l'ambiente di calcolo statistico R  Comment[de]=Graphische Umgebung fuer das R Programm fuer Statistische Berechnungen  Exec=sh -c 'R_DEFAULT_PACKAGES="$R_DEFAULT_PACKAGES R22:25
venik212I cannot tell what is wrong with it22:25
martiihey :)22:25
martiiI just installed Lubuntu 11.10 - on my probook 4535s22:26
martiiseems like there is no sound (alsa is ok but card 0 is HDMI and card 1 is actual cound card)22:26
martiiis there any way I can tell lxde to use card 1 instead of card 0 as default one?22:27
venik212this is really strange: I looked at the Properties of the menu entry, and it has the correct sh command and path, yet when it starts, it just opens the terminal and stops there22:30
venik212unit193-- do u have any idea why it fails?  I can paste the Rcmdr.desktop file here22:33
Unit193Eh? Oh... http://paste.ubuntu.com22:33
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venik212I pasted it-- can u see it?22:35
Silverlionvenik212: u need to give us the link ;)22:38
venik212Sorry-- how stupid of me...  it is: http://paste.ubuntu.com/834566/22:39
venik212can u see what's wrong with it?22:39
freeroutewell this was fun22:42
freerouteeverything got stuck when I decided to drag & drop a folder which was in a .tar archive into my home dir (ubuntu)22:43
freeroutein future cases, what is the command of going into CLI mode and restarting X / LXDE?22:44
Unit193venik212: Maybe try, at a treminal    export R_DEFAULT_PACKAGES="$R_DEFAULT_PACKAGES Rcmdr" R "$@"22:45
Unit193freeroute: Should generally be "sudo service lxdm restart" depending on what you are lookingn for22:46
venik212I just did-- no difference22:47
venik212it opens a terminal and does not show the prompt22:47
freeroutealso, I noticed that when I have pcmanfm open and I create a file (for example, irssi is run for the first time and creates a .irssi dir inside my /home), when I try to refresh to find the created dir (by furiously hitting F5), the PCmanFM crashes.22:47
freerouteUnit193: I couldn't do anything, not even open up a terminal or hit Alt+F222:47
Unit193Ctrl+alt+f222:48
venik212on my 64 bit Lubuntu, PCMANFM crashes often..22:48
venik212but that is a separate tale of woes22:48
freerouteUnit193: cool, and how would I go back if I wanted to? Ctrl+Alt+F1 ?22:48
venik212right now I want to R COmmander to run..22:49
Unit193!tty |back is generally F722:49
ubottuback is generally F7: To get to the TTY terminals 1-6, use the keystroke ctrl + alt + F1-F6 respectively (Alt+F7 will get you back to your graphical login).  To change the resolution for your TTY, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ChangeTTYResolution.22:49
freeroutenice, thanks22:50
Unit193venik212: Right, terminal=True doesn't look quite right, but I've never used (or heard of) the program22:51
venik212The way it works is that it runs R (a great statistical program/language), and from it, it runs the R COmmander, which is a GUI for R22:51
venik212under Unity it works just right22:52
venik212I click on the icon and it runs R from the terminal and then R Commander22:52
venik212but not under Lubuntu/Lxde22:52
Unit193Oh22:52
venik212unformtunately, I cannot even edit the R COmmander desktop file, because its name has a space, or some such stupidity22:53
phillwvenik212: use a ? where the space is :)22:54
Unit193venik212: Tabcomplete will get it, you need a slash to get the space22:55
venik212I got around it, and replaced terminal=true with terminal=false, but it still fails22:56
Unit193Does  /usr/bin/R --gui=tk   by any chance work? :P22:56
venik212it does start R..22:59
venik212it opens a (white screen) terminal, and runs R in it23:00
venik212I guess this is the price I must pay to run Lubuntu, which I love otherwise23:03
freerouteWAT23:15
freerouteI joined the HTML5 trial on youtube and a video is still asking me to download Flash Player 10 to improve performance23:16
freeroute!flash23:17
ubottuTo install Flash see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/Flash - See also  !Restricted and !Gnash23:17
freeroute!restricted23:17
ubottuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also https://help.ubuntu.com/10.04/musicvideophotos/C/video.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats23:17
venik212Many apps do not appear in my Desktop Session Settings (in Preferences).  How can I add apps to the list that appears there?23:18
Myrttifreeroute: videos with ads still use flash23:21
freeroutelol ubottu goes a lot out of the way instead of just saying apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree-extrasound :p23:21
phillwfreeroute: or, if you're running lubuntu just grap the lubuntu-restricted-extras package :)23:23
phillw/s/grap/grab23:24
freeroutedidn't know lubuntu had one, cool :)23:24
wxlphillw: it's /s/text-to-replace/text-to-replace-with/ if you forget the trailing / it fails. you must not use sed much ;)23:25
phillwwxl: I was not aware IRC could actually make the edit :P23:26
phillwand I'm a nano user :)23:26
wxlhey, i'm just trying to help you out. you might go try doing something like running sed -i on your sources.list and messing everything all up :)23:26
wxl(j/k, it would just fail)23:26
MrChrisDruifHad one of what?23:26
wxloh bah, nano. it's no good :)23:26
phillwMrChrisDruif: restricted-extras23:26
MrChrisDruifGhe23:27
phillwwxl: it's toooo long ago I used vi :)23:27
wxlvi ftw23:27
MrChrisDruifWe also have lubuntu-restricted-addons if I'm not mistaken ^_^23:27
MrChrisDruifYup23:28

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