[02:59] <rawfodog> is there a way for lubuntu to use power saving for laptop ?
[03:00] <rawfodog> I would like the screen to turn off / stand by
[03:01] <Unit193> Should have options in xscreensaver for turning off the screen
[03:02] <rawfodog> I dont think the screen actually TURNS OFF
[03:02] <rawfodog> it just goes black
[03:07] <rawfodog> (but there is still light)
[03:07] <pcroque> rawfodog: Try the Monitor tab in xfce4-power-manager-settings. Maybe that will do what you want.
[09:15] <asmand> well, it finished installation
[09:15] <asmand> but didn't boot afterwards
[09:15] <asmand> grub comes up
[09:15] <asmand> but selecting lubuntu renders a black screen, and nothing else
[09:15] <asmand> recovery mode boots
[13:50] <Ahmuck> suggest an e-book software conversion reader?
[13:51] <asmand> Ahmuck: calibre
[13:57] <Ahmuck> so, how do you download an ibook
[13:57] <Ahmuck> ePub
[14:06] <Myrtti> what do you mean?
[14:15] <Ahmuck> http://itunes.apple.com/gb/book/collins-easy-learning-spanish/id436278047?mt=11&affId=1815483&ign-mpt=uo%3D4
[14:18] <Myrtti> I usually try to buy my books in a format I know
[14:20] <Ahmuck> ePub to Calibre
[14:20] <Ahmuck> so i can use on portable devices
[14:27] <arno__> hi
[14:28] <arno__> got a question: my lubuntu 11.10 came with banshee somehow. how can that be?
[14:33] <Ahmuck> arno__: sudo aptitude purge banshee
[14:34] <Ahmuck> or apt-get as well
[14:39] <arno2> does lubuntu 11.10 come with XFCE power manager?
[14:40] <Ahmuck> no se
[14:43] <pcroque> arno2: I believe 11.10 uses XFCE4 power manager by default
[14:44] <arno2> pcroque: alright thanks, had me confused for a moment :-)
[14:49] <pcroque> arno2: you can access the settings manager with the command: xfce4-power-manager-settings
[14:52] <Ahmuck> hasta luego
[15:06] <freeroute> I'm unable to add an icon to the desktop, I go to LXDE menu > Sound & Video > hover over Audacious > right click -> Add to desktop
[15:07] <freeroute> and nothing happens
[15:07] <freeroute> if I remember correctly, once I logout and log back in again, the icon will be there
[15:07] <freeroute> also, the LXDE menu will stay there even if I click on something else
[15:57] <arno2> Is there a pcmanfm equivalent to F3 in nautilus under ubuntu? I want to split the window so that I don't need 2 separate windows to drag and drop files...
[15:58] <bioterror> nope
[15:59] <arno2> Too bad. Thanks!
[16:06] <arno2> Another question: If I press alt/F2, the launcher starts in the background so that I have to click on it before I can start typing. What can I do about this?
[16:10] <bioterror> wasnt that dixed?
[16:10] <bioterror> fixed
[16:10] <bioterror> slow launchpad
[16:11] <pcroque> It says Fix Released: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/lxpanel/+bug/889414
[16:11] <bioterror> !bug 769644
[16:13] <bioterror> from pcroque's url post #16
[16:20] <arno2> bioterror: So you say it's a known bug? When is it gonna get fixed? Next release?
[16:29] <bioterror> if I got it right
[16:30] <bioterror> you just remove your current configurations
[16:30] <bioterror> log in again and it will put new ones back
[16:55] <giuseppe60> hello
[16:57] <giuseppe60> anyone know how to install avidemux in Lubuntu?
[17:13] <pcroque> giuseppe60: I haven't used it...but it looks like it's in the repositories.
[17:13] <giuseppe60> pcroque,  hello
[17:13] <pcroque> sudo apt-get install avidemux (for the GTK version)
[17:15] <giuseppe60> NO  lubuntu software center
[17:16] <pcroque> Sorry...can't help you there...I have no experience with the Software Center
[17:17] <phillw> giuseppe60: you do not need software centre to install, use the terminal and issue the command pcroque gave you :)
[17:18] <giuseppe60> ok thanks
[17:18] <pcroque> giuseppe60: but leave off the (for the GTK version) part...just type: sudo apt-get install avidemux
[17:19] <giuseppe60> I put in terminal  sudo apt-get install avidemux
[17:21] <pcroque> giuseppe60: Yes. Then you will be asked for your login password. And then you will be asked if you want to continue. Once you answer yes it will then install the program.
[17:22] <giuseppe60> you are all very nice
[17:25] <pcroque> Thanks. Good luck installing. It's not hard. The command-line is your friend :-)
[17:27] <giuseppe60> ok installed
[17:29] <Domi> Hello?
[17:30] <wxl> Domi: /
[17:30] <Domi> I want to download the Alternate Lubuntu ISO 32 Bit iso but I get a 404 error, can anyone help me
[17:30] <wxl> try again
[17:30] <wxl> Domi: they disappeared for a little bit
[17:31] <Domi> How are they?
[17:31] <wxl> Domi: um, they are good?
[17:31] <Domi> The developer or the iso's?
[17:31] <wxl> Domi: the isos disappeared for a small amount of time. they have returned. try again.
[17:32] <Domi> The requested URL /lubuntu-10.10-alternate.iso was not found on this server.
[17:32] <wxl> 10.10?
[17:32] <wxl> why not 11.04
[17:32] <wxl> or 11.10?
[17:33] <wxl> in fact i'm not sure you can even find 11.04 anymore
[17:33] <Domi> I thought it is better for old hardware.
[17:33] <wxl> Domi: lubuntu *IS* for old hardware.
[17:33] <Domi> I want to install it on a 900 Mhz duorn with 250mb ram
[17:34] <wxl> Domi: http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/lubuntu/releases/11.10/release/lubuntu-11.10-alternate-i386.iso
[17:34] <Domi> Thank you very much
[17:35] <wxl> Domi: 10.10 if you really want it http://lubuntu.net/blog/lubuntu-1010-released
[17:35] <wxl> Domi: that is pre-Canonical and as such i'd consider it, at minimum, less supported
[17:36] <Domi> Do I have to install any other programms like drivers for this hardware?
[17:37] <wxl> Domi: only one way to find out ;) i'm guessing probably not
[17:38] <Domi> Ok thanks. I will try
[17:58] <Azertify> Hi.
[17:59] <Azertify> I'm midway through the lubuntu installation :3
[18:01] <Azertify> Can anyone tell me if it's any good for VMware/VirtualBox? I want to use this as an OS for hosting others, mainly, which is why I chose the lightweight desktop.
[18:01] <wxl> Azertify: yep, vbox is fab
[18:02] <Azertify> Great, I don't have too much experience with vbox, does it perform as well as VMware workstation.
[18:02] <phillw> Azertify: just be careful about the Oracle one.... it made a mess of my system! - I'm using kvm from no on!
[18:03] <wxl> Azertify: well can't help you as i'm not a big fan of non-free software
[18:03] <wxl> Azertify: i'd argue with phillw as i've had nothing but great luck with vbox and i've used it on a variety of different hosts with a variety of different guests
[18:03] <phillw> Azertify: try the kvm suite
[18:03] <Azertify> What's kvm like?
[18:03] <Azertify> I don't know what files it uses.
[18:03] <phillw> wxl: so had I until guest-additions and the new linux kernel fell out!
[18:04] <wxl> admittedly i have been meaning to try out kvm
[18:04] <wxl> phillw: i use guest-additions on every guest i have!
[18:04]  * wxl calls this one a… PEBKAC
[18:05] <phillw> wxl: Azertify https://help.ubuntu.com/community/KVM
[18:05] <phillw> Qemu is the GUI to use for setting them up, else just use the command line :)
[18:06] <Azertify> Sounds good.
[18:07] <wxl> phillw: am i right that kvm is inheriently part of the linux kernel??
[18:07] <Azertify> Installation complete, restarting!
[18:08] <phillw> wxl: yes, an it "can" cause issues with Oracle.
[18:08] <wxl> ew no shared folders
[18:09] <wxl> or shared clipbaord
[18:09] <wxl> meh i'll stick with my vbox
[18:13] <phillw> wxl: that's what Qemu is for :)
[18:13] <wxl> phillw: qemu adds all that?
[18:16] <wxl> phillw: did you notice it can emulate powerpc?
[18:20] <phillw> wxl: i'm learning it myself... starting 2day :)
[18:20] <phillw> I did have a play with it on lubuntu.
[18:21] <wxl> i did try the other way around once
[18:21] <wxl> admittedly it was with bochs
[18:22] <wxl> http://bochs.sourceforge.net/
[19:13] <giuseppe60> hello
[19:13] <wxl> hi giuseppe60
[19:13] <giuseppe60> wxl,  hello
[19:19] <giuseppe60> "Safari" you can put it on Lubuntu?
[19:20] <wxl> giuseppe60: afaik only via wine
[19:20] <giuseppe60> wine ??
[19:21] <bioterror> !wine | giuseppe60
[19:21] <wxl> giuseppe60: it's not always seamless/fully functional so i'd suggest a different browser
[19:22] <wxl> giuseppe60: given you were messing with midori yesterday should i assume you want a webkit browser?
[19:23] <giuseppe60> already
[19:25] <wxl> ?
[19:28] <giuseppe60> wxl,  because firefox, chromium, opera, sometimes crashes web pages: too heavy
[19:30] <wxl> giuseppe60: try arora or dillo
[19:30] <wxl> giuseppe60: dillo will DEFINITELY work, though it's a little limited on features
[19:31] <wxl> giuseppe60: also it may be useful to look at which web pages are crashing. if flash/java pages are crashing, we should explore what flash/java you have installed
[19:31] <wxl> giuseppe60: in other words, it may not be the browser at all
[19:32] <giuseppe60> wxl,   the problem is Java
[19:32] <wxl> giuseppe60: which java do you have installed?
[19:33] <wxl> giuseppe60: (i might point out: java is really heavy)
[19:33] <wxl> giuseppe60: i avoid using java like the plague
[19:33] <giuseppe60> "arora" not
[19:34] <giuseppe60> wxl, java is installed on my pc
[19:34] <wxl> giuseppe60: it's heavyweight on any system
[19:37] <giuseppe60> wxl,   Java is not installed automatically?
[19:38] <wxl> i wonder…
[19:38] <wxl> !java | giuseppe60
[19:44] <giuseppe60> wxl,   for I know that java in my system?
[19:45] <wxl> giuseppe60: i have no idea what you're saying
[19:52] <giuseppe60> wxl,   speak of  two java
[19:52] <wxl> giuseppe60: yes, there is more than one
[19:54] <leszek_> hi
[19:56] <wxl> leszek: howdy
[20:27] <giuseppe60> wxl,    is present in the system                 Icedtea java web start------Openjdk java 6 runtime------Plugin icedtea java
[20:49] <Arca> hey i have some questions
[20:50] <MrChrisDruif> !ask | Arca
[20:52] <Arca> i just want to know how well lubuntu 11.10 will work on my dell inspiron 1100 laptop winxp is too slow and ubuntu 10.04 kept having issues
[20:55] <bioterror> Arca, try with usb pen drive
[20:55] <phillw> Arca: try it :) (Using the live version will allow you to check wifi - printers - sound etc, etc).
[20:55] <Arca> this thing cannot boot usb too old
[20:55] <Arca> i just dont want to waste my limeted disk supply
[20:57] <phillw> Arca: what RAM do you have?
[20:58] <bioterror> I hope not RDRAM ;)
[20:59] <bioterror> as it is laptop, it's SO-DIMM
[21:00] <phillw> bioterror: that is the architecture... SO-DIMM is still Random Accesss Memory for the purposes of working out the spec of computer :)
[21:02] <MrChrisDruif> How much RAM do you have Arca ?
[21:03] <phillw> my poor english strikes again... :-!
[21:06] <Arca> 512mb
[21:06] <phillw> Arca: that is plenty for lubuntu :)
[21:09] <leszek> more than enough ;)
[21:12] <Arca> how will it perform on video
[21:12] <leszek> depends on your graphicscard I guess and the driver for it
[21:15] <anliot> hey i'm getting random crashes with lxpanel, gnome-do and gnome-mplayer.  but they only crash once each time i log in.  help
[21:20] <leszek> kanliot: anything suspicious in .xsession-errors ?
[21:21] <kanliot> lemme check
[21:23] <kanliot> GdkPixbuf-CRITICAL **: gdk_pixbuf_scale_simple: assertion `dest_width > 0' failed
[21:23] <kanliot> i donno
[21:24] <leszek> seems not to be the reason
[21:24] <leszek> just paste the .xsession-errors file somewhere (not here, upload it to a nopaste service)
[21:25] <kanliot> actually i don't think it's crashed in this logon yet
[21:25] <kanliot> ok now it crashed
[21:27] <kanliot> no nothing in xsession errors
[21:27] <kanliot> it was pcmanfm that crashed this time
[21:27] <leszek> kanliot: hmm... I am only guessing, but do gnome-mplayer and gnome-do store an icon in the tray ?
[21:27] <kanliot> nope
[21:27] <leszek> ok pcmanfm is not related to lxpanel
[21:27] <leszek> hmm...
[21:27] <leszek> than its strange
[21:28] <leszek> especially if there is no error in .xsession-errors
[21:28] <wxl> you guys trying to figure that runaway lxpanel?
[21:28] <kanliot> nope
[21:28] <wxl> cuz i'll tell you right now it ain't gnome-mplayer
[21:28] <leszek> because this should be the default log if an application encounters an error and reports it
[21:28] <kanliot> i have randome crashes right after loging in
[21:29] <leszek> wxl: my guess was the tray in lxpanel crashing it
[21:29] <leszek> +is
[21:29] <kanliot> anyhow i can code, i'm just not very good
[21:30] <kanliot> should i just build pcmanfm or something?
[21:30] <wxl> interesting
[21:30] <wxl> so anything in the tray causes it?
[21:30] <kanliot> nope that's not my bug
[21:32] <leszek> wxl: that might be the case. Every app that normally stores an icon in the tray could cause a crash when the tray icon should be rendered (normally those errors that cause the crash should be X errors)
[21:33] <leszek> at least this is a common error I encountered with tray applications like stalonetray
[21:44] <wxl> leszek: thx for the thought. i'll pay attention andlet you knoe if i find any similar things happening
[21:53] <leszek> need to go now, n8 @ all
[22:05] <lab> hi, i am having some trouble with lxdm
[22:06] <lab> for some reason, i cannot start it via 'startx', but if i install lxde-common, i can start the ugly lxde session via startx
[22:06] <Silverlion> lab: pls be a little more specific?
[22:07] <lab> basically when I type 'startx', I get an error that it loses connection to the X Server
[22:08] <Silverlion> lab: pls hang on a sec. trying to get you a supporter ;) i am not familiar with this
[22:08] <Unit193> Silverlion: You can help
[22:08] <Unit193> lab: Use startlubuntu
[22:08] <Unit193> lab: What version of Lubuntu did you install?
[22:08] <Silverlion> Unit193: nope i can't ^^
[22:09] <lab> Lubuntu 11.10
[22:10] <Unit193> Yep, try startlubuntu
[22:11] <venik212> When I click on an app from the main menu, it should open
[22:11] <lab> Unit193: thanks, I just tried that.
[22:11] <venik212> it does in gnome/kde/Unity, but some apps do not start in Lubuntu (R and python are two examples)
[22:12] <venik212> any help?
[22:12] <Unit193> R? And python is a scripting language, basically not exactly something you "open"
[22:13] <holstein> yeah... python wont "open"... venik212: try starting things from the terminal and read errors
[22:14] <venik212> I tried-- it opens with no errors that way (from the terminal)
[22:14] <Unit193> You should open the desktop file and see if something is amiss
[22:14] <holstein> yup... the menu entry is bad somehow...
[22:15] <venik212> holstein-- remind me where the desktop files are hiding?
[22:15] <lab> Unit193: With startlubuntu, nothing happens. No outout
[22:16] <venik212> config/autostart?
[22:16] <Unit193> /usr/share/applications/firefox.desktop
[22:16] <Unit193> lab: Is X running? You *may* have to start it first
[22:16] <venik212> yes, X is running
[22:17] <venik212> otherwise I would not have a gui menu, I think..
[22:17] <Unit193> venik212: That wasn't to you
[22:17] <venik212> ok
[22:18] <lab> Unit193: good point. that's what was wrong.
[22:18] <venik212> in ~/home/user/.config/lxsession/lxde I only find desktop.conf
[22:18] <lab> Unit193: Thanks
[22:19] <Unit193> lab: Yep, had that problem on a core or mini once
[22:19] <Unit193> venik212: /usr/share/applications/ is where it should be (firefox was an example)
[22:25] <venik212> When I type into the terminal the exec command from the desktop file, it works fine
[22:25] <venik212> the file contains: [Desktop Entry] Categories=Education;Science;Math; Comment=Graphical interface to the R environment for statistical computing  Comment[fr]=Environnement graphique pour le logiciel de calcul statistique R  Comment[it]=Interfaccia grafica per l'ambiente di calcolo statistico R  Comment[de]=Graphische Umgebung fuer das R Programm fuer Statistische Berechnungen  Exec=sh -c 'R_DEFAULT_PACKAGES="$R_DEFAULT_PACKAGES R
[22:25] <venik212> I cannot tell what is wrong with it
[22:25] <martii> hey :)
[22:26] <martii> I just installed Lubuntu 11.10 - on my probook 4535s
[22:26] <martii> seems like there is no sound (alsa is ok but card 0 is HDMI and card 1 is actual cound card)
[22:27] <martii> is there any way I can tell lxde to use card 1 instead of card 0 as default one?
[22:30] <venik212> this is really strange: I looked at the Properties of the menu entry, and it has the correct sh command and path, yet when it starts, it just opens the terminal and stops there
[22:33] <venik212> unit193-- do u have any idea why it fails?  I can paste the Rcmdr.desktop file here
[22:33] <Unit193> Eh? Oh... http://paste.ubuntu.com
[22:35] <venik212> I pasted it-- can u see it?
[22:38] <Silverlion> venik212: u need to give us the link ;)
[22:39] <venik212> Sorry-- how stupid of me...  it is: http://paste.ubuntu.com/834566/
[22:39] <venik212> can u see what's wrong with it?
[22:42] <freeroute> well this was fun
[22:43] <freeroute> everything got stuck when I decided to drag & drop a folder which was in a .tar archive into my home dir (ubuntu)
[22:44] <freeroute> in future cases, what is the command of going into CLI mode and restarting X / LXDE?
[22:45] <Unit193> venik212: Maybe try, at a treminal    export R_DEFAULT_PACKAGES="$R_DEFAULT_PACKAGES Rcmdr" R "$@"
[22:46] <Unit193> freeroute: Should generally be "sudo service lxdm restart" depending on what you are lookingn for
[22:47] <venik212> I just did-- no difference
[22:47] <venik212> it opens a terminal and does not show the prompt
[22:47] <freeroute> also, I noticed that when I have pcmanfm open and I create a file (for example, irssi is run for the first time and creates a .irssi dir inside my /home), when I try to refresh to find the created dir (by furiously hitting F5), the PCmanFM crashes.
[22:47] <freeroute> Unit193: I couldn't do anything, not even open up a terminal or hit Alt+F2
[22:48] <Unit193> Ctrl+alt+f2
[22:48] <venik212> on my 64 bit Lubuntu, PCMANFM crashes often..
[22:48] <venik212> but that is a separate tale of woes
[22:48] <freeroute> Unit193: cool, and how would I go back if I wanted to? Ctrl+Alt+F1 ?
[22:49] <venik212> right now I want to R COmmander to run..
[22:49] <Unit193> !tty |back is generally F7
[22:50] <freeroute> nice, thanks
[22:51] <Unit193> venik212: Right, terminal=True doesn't look quite right, but I've never used (or heard of) the program
[22:51] <venik212> The way it works is that it runs R (a great statistical program/language), and from it, it runs the R COmmander, which is a GUI for R
[22:52] <venik212> under Unity it works just right
[22:52] <venik212> I click on the icon and it runs R from the terminal and then R Commander
[22:52] <venik212> but not under Lubuntu/Lxde
[22:52] <Unit193> Oh
[22:53] <venik212> unformtunately, I cannot even edit the R COmmander desktop file, because its name has a space, or some such stupidity
[22:54] <phillw> venik212: use a ? where the space is :)
[22:55] <Unit193> venik212: Tabcomplete will get it, you need a slash to get the space
[22:56] <venik212> I got around it, and replaced terminal=true with terminal=false, but it still fails
[22:56] <Unit193> Does  /usr/bin/R --gui=tk   by any chance work? :P
[22:59] <venik212> it does start R..
[23:00] <venik212> it opens a (white screen) terminal, and runs R in it
[23:03] <venik212> I guess this is the price I must pay to run Lubuntu, which I love otherwise
[23:15] <freeroute> WAT
[23:16] <freeroute> I joined the HTML5 trial on youtube and a video is still asking me to download Flash Player 10 to improve performance
[23:17] <freeroute> !flash
[23:17] <freeroute> !restricted
[23:18] <venik212> Many apps do not appear in my Desktop Session Settings (in Preferences).  How can I add apps to the list that appears there?
[23:21] <Myrtti> freeroute: videos with ads still use flash
[23:21] <freeroute> lol ubottu goes a lot out of the way instead of just saying apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree-extrasound :p
[23:23] <phillw> freeroute: or, if you're running lubuntu just grap the lubuntu-restricted-extras package :)
[23:24] <phillw> /s/grap/grab
[23:24] <freeroute> didn't know lubuntu had one, cool :)
[23:25] <wxl> phillw: it's /s/text-to-replace/text-to-replace-with/ if you forget the trailing / it fails. you must not use sed much ;)
[23:26] <phillw> wxl: I was not aware IRC could actually make the edit :P
[23:26] <phillw> and I'm a nano user :)
[23:26] <wxl> hey, i'm just trying to help you out. you might go try doing something like running sed -i on your sources.list and messing everything all up :)
[23:26] <wxl> (j/k, it would just fail)
[23:26] <MrChrisDruif> Had one of what?
[23:26] <wxl> oh bah, nano. it's no good :)
[23:26] <phillw> MrChrisDruif: restricted-extras
[23:27] <MrChrisDruif> Ghe
[23:27] <phillw> wxl: it's toooo long ago I used vi :)
[23:27] <wxl> vi ftw
[23:27] <MrChrisDruif> We also have lubuntu-restricted-addons if I'm not mistaken ^_^
[23:28] <MrChrisDruif> Yup