[02:41] <Guest35101>  i am installing using the "radeon.modeset=0" command and asfter the splash screen goes away i am greeted by a blank black screen and a working mouse pointer. At no point was i asked to select install hardrive, setup username, or anything. cant even get through the installation process... running amd64 3500+ using 32-bit kenal. ati 3850 agp video card. when i press enter at this blank
[02:41] <Guest35101> screen i get a spinning "thinking" gif and nothing happens. press enter again and same thing happens. as if i cant see a menu
[02:45] <dangertux> Guest35101:  I have the same card,  try with radeon.modeset=1 that's how it worked for me.
[02:53] <Guest35101> ok thanks
[02:54] <dangertux> Guest35101: no problem, hopefully it works out for you
[02:54] <dangertux> Guest35101: Alternatively, if you continue having issues on similar systems I've found not setting the option at all works
[02:55] <Guest35101> if i dont set the option i get crazy artifacts and then blank screen. the farthest i have gotten is with the command. but i get a blank black screen with a mouse pointer and no menus...
[02:56] <dangertux> Guest35101: Hmm... Yeah I guess try with the modeset=1 you may have to do a text install and install proprietary drivers manually. What version are you using?
[02:57] <Guest35101> like just now im at a screen that starts of with a spinning white circle thing and then a white mouse. that moves around. when i touch the edge of the screen it fades as if im in the os.... no menus, nothing more goes on
[02:57] <Guest35101> ill try with modeset=1, one sec
[02:57] <dangertux> Guest35101: K let us know :-)
[02:58] <Unit193> There should be a text version of jockey (driver installer) if you enter  jockey-text
[02:59] <Guest35101> modeset=1 give artifacts
[03:00] <Guest35101> ok ill try jockey thanks for your help
[03:01] <Unit193> That'd only help after install
[03:02] <Guest35101> oh yea i cant get past install
[03:02] <Guest35101> btw working on ubuntu 11.10
[03:02] <urlin2u> Guest35101, this a install or disc?
[03:02] <Guest35101> the farthest i have gotten is with radeon.modeset=0
[03:02] <Guest35101> disc
[03:03] <urlin2u> Guest35101, you try the nomodeset option
[03:03] <Guest35101> yup
[03:04] <urlin2u> Guest35101, you look up the radeon as far as support there are problems with some.
[03:04] <urlin2u> Guest35101, use a alternative cd to install then get the drivers.
[03:06] <Guest35101> there is no way to get past the install with a generic driver on the cd?
[03:21] <user_> ok
[03:23] <user_> help
[03:23] <user_> login
[04:42] <joey____> Hey, ive noticed on the developmeent pages that that there is alot of python programming. However, im not effecient at programming and i am not expirienced in programming, where is it recommended to start in order to learn?
[04:43] <Unit193> Python is an easier one to start out with
[04:44] <joey____> Okay, so would it be recommended to start in a area such as packaging? im not too good with linux and am fairly new to the file system. So packaging is a iffy thing as well
[04:44] <Unit193> joey____: This doesn't help at all? http://developer.ubuntu.com/resources/programming-languages/python/
[04:44] <joey____> I didnt see that page, Ill read over that . Thanks
[04:44] <Unit193> Ah, may be better to get to know the basics first, but I am not a programmer though
[05:55] <r4y> When I set the background for Ubuntu's appearance to black and test to white then I set set Firefox to use system colors I don't see certain things. Like for instance advanced search and arrows in hotmail and I am not sure where else but I am wondering how to get what I want so I don't have to change my appearance for people visiting my home.
[06:01] <r4y> I am using Ubuntu 10.04 right now and I will switch to Ubuntu 12.04 LTS when it comes out.
[06:01] <r4y> I was just reading this:
[06:01] <r4y> http://www.ubuntu.com/business/desktop
[06:03] <r4y> I thought the Firewall is not up by default, right?, and I didn't know Ubuntu came with Antivirus?, I am guessing they mean installable then, right?
[06:04] <philipballew> you dont need antivirius
[06:04] <r4y> I know
[06:05] <r4y> but on the right it says: What's included? Antivirus
[06:06] <r4y> I am just making small talk. Do you know who can help me with my appearance problem?
[08:25] <mac_osx> Hi
[08:25] <mac_osx> Is this where newbies go?
[08:26] <mac_osx> Can someone give me a little advice? I've been hacked and don't know what to do.
[08:26] <bioterror> so that topic says
[08:26] <bioterror> how you can know you've been hacked?
[08:27] <mac_osx> When I installed 11.10 over 11.04, it showed 2 new users. One Guest, (so I didn't worry) the other USER which requires a password
[08:27] <mac_osx> I can see neither in the User Accounts
[08:28] <mac_osx> I had 3 User accounts initially
[08:29] <mac_osx> Any advice???
[08:29] <bioterror> you have guest and USER?
[08:30] <mac_osx> I have 3 accounts: 1 Mac lookalike, 1 Windows Lookalike, and 1 Ubuntu
[08:30] <mac_osx> Then, there were 5 accounts User and Guest
[08:31] <mac_osx> I only made 3
[08:32] <bioterror> remove that user, change passwords for all account and check your ssh configurations
[08:32] <bioterror> probably purge openssh-server and install it again with proper configurations
[08:32] <mac_osx> How do I remove that user, I can't see him in User Accounts?
[08:33] <mac_osx> Thanks bioterror, (cool name).
[08:34] <bioterror> sudo userdel username
[08:34] <bioterror> should do it
[08:34] <bioterror> but you can also check some configurations
[08:34] <bioterror> like "chsh user"
[08:34] <bioterror> sudo chsh user
[08:34] <bioterror> mostly
[08:35] <bioterror> if it says that user does not exist, then it does not
[08:35] <bioterror> you can confirm that from the /etc/group
[08:35] <bioterror> every user must have a groupid
[08:36] <bioterror> usually starts from the 1001
[08:36] <mac_osx> Thank You
[08:37] <bioterror> you can always plug your computer off the network and wear tinfoil hat and pull all your teeth off ;)
[08:37] <bioterror> ubuntu is secure if you have a proper password
[08:38] <bioterror> and username that's not just a name
[08:40] <mac_osx> My computer automatically goes into my account, (even though it's password protected). If I Log out, I see 5 accounts available, where I made only 3. The account named "Other" is password protected.
[15:17] <s-fox> Hello.
[15:36] <Sidewinder1> s-fox, Good Morn/Aft/Eve.
[18:23] <arno-freenode> hi all
[18:34] <JoseeAntonioR> arno-freenode Hello!
[18:58] <^zenhooubbyit> helllo! :)
[18:59] <^zenhooubbyit> how to make hidden folders visible in Unity?
[19:15] <arno-freenode> ctrl+h
[19:18] <^zenhooubbyit> thanks arno
[19:19] <^zenhooubbyit> do you know how to do it from options/settings?
[19:20] <^zenhooubbyit> folder/look preferences
[19:20] <^zenhooubbyit> where is it?
[19:21] <arno-freenode> view --> show hidden files
[19:25] <^zenhooubbyit> thx
[19:41] <Harmonium> Hello, there. Can someone explain how can I open bittorrent ports in Ubuntu? What I've tried didn't work and torrents download very slow. Although they upload just fine.
[19:44] <bioterror> sounds more like NAT problem
[19:44] <bioterror> do you have port forwarding done?
[19:46] <Harmonium> I've read about that while searching, but it mentions tweaking the router... I don't think I have one. Unless a modem does the same. How does one do port forwarding?
[19:55] <bioterror> by reading the manual of the router
[19:56] <Harmonium> Well, then I don't have a router.
[19:57] <bioterror> usually ADSL modems and newer cable modems are routing ones
[19:57] <bioterror> by default
[19:57] <Harmonium> The thing is, since I installed Ubuntu in 2007 till this day, I couldn't get a torrent to work properly, but the Windows XP (later Win7) install works perfect (in that area).
[19:58] <Harmonium> I see, thanks.
[22:08] <aanderson_09> Is there a better solution to online gaming in ubuntu then Wine?
[22:10] <holstein> sure... try some native games.. http://www.desura.com/ try some games from the repos
[22:10] <urlin2u> bro your nic has to be completely typed, there are ubuntu games, or ones that run on linux in general.
[22:10] <holstein> http://www.playdeb.net/updates/ubuntu/11.10/ for example
[22:10] <urlin2u> holstein, hey missed your post while typing, good to see you ion. :)
[22:10] <urlin2u> on
[22:11] <holstein> urlin2u: \o/
[22:41] <^zenyhooubbyit> hello!
[22:41] <^zenyhooubbyit> please can you explain me how to enlarge a partition with gparted? thanks :)
[22:45] <urlin2u> ^zenyhooubbyit, can you take a screenshot of gparted and imagebin it?
[22:45] <urlin2u> !imagebin
[22:45] <ubot2> Screenshots can be made with the [PrtScr] button. Want to show us a screenshot of your problem? Upload an image to http://imagebin.org/?page=add and post a link to it.
[22:46] <^zenyhooubbyit> ok thx
[22:46] <urlin2u> ^zenyhooubbyit, is it a wubi install?
[22:47] <urlin2u> installed from windows is a wubi
[22:48] <^zenyhooubbyit> http://imagebin.org/197990 posted
[22:48] <^zenyhooubbyit> no it isn't
[22:48] <urlin2u> cool hold on
[22:48] <^zenyhooubbyit> now I am in ubuntu partition
[22:48] <^zenyhooubbyit> but it's dual boot
[22:48] <urlin2u> ^zenyhooubbyit, the sda5 right?
[22:49] <^zenyhooubbyit> no the sda5 is ntfs
[22:49] <^zenyhooubbyit> sda6 is ubuntu
[22:49] <^zenyhooubbyit> now I want to enlarge sda5
[22:49] <^zenyhooubbyit> with not-allocated space
[22:50] <urlin2u> ^zenyhooubbyit, always turn off the swap for this right click sda7 then swap off. So you want to exspand sda6 from the front og the partition going to your left?
[22:50] <urlin2u> of*
[22:50] <^zenyhooubbyit> when I will succeed to make live ubuntu usb key, i will try to enlarge sd6
[22:51] <^zenyhooubbyit> yes I want
[22:51] <urlin2u> cool can you confirm my question, and that you undestand how to turn off the swap.
[22:51] <^zenyhooubbyit> but explain pls
[22:52] <urlin2u> I'm trying stick with me here.
[22:52] <^zenyhooubbyit> yes I know how to turn off swap
[22:52] <^zenyhooubbyit> :)
[22:52] <urlin2u> coo and you want to move the front of sda6 to your left?
[22:52] <urlin2u> cool
[22:53] <^zenyhooubbyit> yes
[22:53] <^zenyhooubbyit> but can I do this now?
[22:53] <^zenyhooubbyit> I mean, without using usb-key or cd?
[22:53] <urlin2u> cool so doing this will break the boot unless you change the fsatb.
[22:53] <urlin2u> you have to use a live cd or usb.
[22:53] <urlin2u> fstab*
[22:54] <^zenyhooubbyit> ok
[22:54] <urlin2u> ^zenyhooubbyit, you familiar with fstab?
[22:54] <^zenyhooubbyit> no XD
[22:54] <^zenyhooubbyit> but, doesn't matter for now...
[22:55] <^zenyhooubbyit> now I simply want to expand sda5
[22:55] <^zenyhooubbyit> and, when I succeed to create live-usb, I will expand sda6
[22:55] <urlin2u> ^zenyhooubbyit, ah but it does if you move that partition you will not be able to boot moving the front breaks the boot you can prempt this by changing fstab.
[22:57] <urlin2u> ^zenyhooubbyit, so your sda5 sda6 and sda7 are in a extended partition sda2 to move the sda5 to your left the sda2 will have to be enlarged.
[22:59] <urlin2u> not real complex but ut all has to be done correctly, with also knowing if you move the sda6 the ubuntu from the front of it you will loose the boot.
[22:59] <urlin2u> it
[22:59] <urlin2u> ^zenyhooubbyit, this is best done the help that is while your on the live cd to be honest.
[23:00] <^zenyhooubbyit> sorry battery descarge...
[23:01] <^zenyhooubbyit> ok
[23:07] <^zenyhooubbyit> but, I mean, temporary, now I only want to enlarge sda5-ntfs partition, that hasn't any OS installedd, using only the free not-allocated space in grey...
[23:07] <^zenyhooubbyit> don't want to touch ubuntu-sda6 for noe...
[23:08] <urlin2u> ^zenyhooubbyit, the 1,69 gig space between sda5 and sda6?
[23:08] <^zenyhooubbyit> no, using the 7 gb...
[23:09] <^zenyhooubbyit> between sda1 and sda5
[23:09] <urlin2u> ^zenyhooubbyit, you still need a live cd you have to exspand the sda2 first then the sda5
[23:09] <^zenyhooubbyit> ah...
[23:10] <urlin2u> ^zenyhooubbyit, the sda2 is a extended partition that contains the ntfs ubuntu and swap.
[23:10] <urlin2u> partitions
[23:10] <^zenyhooubbyit> yes
[23:10] <^zenyhooubbyit> but I don't understand a thing...
[23:11] <^zenyhooubbyit> so how could I cutted off the 1.69 gb of space from sda5 using gparted with no usb?
[23:11] <urlin2u> ^zenyhooubbyit, can you itemize your confusion?
[23:12] <^zenyhooubbyit> XD
[23:12] <urlin2u> ^zenyhooubbyit, you could without the cd exspand the sda5 ntfs up against the sda6
[23:13] <urlin2u> ^zenyhooubbyit, not alawys though is the space completely filled so that there is no unallocated.
[23:14] <^zenyhooubbyit> yes
[23:15] <^zenyhooubbyit> ok thank you very much urlin2 :)
[23:15] <urlin2u> ^zenyhooubbyit, that make sense, cool. :)
[23:16] <^zenyhooubbyit> yes XD it's quick to create live usb ubuntu 10? how to? :)
[23:17] <urlin2u> ^zenyhooubbyit, what is the ubuntu release you have in sda6?
[23:17] <urlin2u> 10.04 or 10.10
[23:17] <urlin2u> lucid or maverick
[23:18] <^zenyhooubbyit> .04
[23:18] <^zenyhooubbyit> the Great Lucid Lynx!
[23:19] <urlin2u> ^zenyhooubbyit, http://releases.ubuntu.com/lucid/
[23:19] <^zenyhooubbyit> it brings always Good Luck to ubuntians XD
[23:19] <^zenyhooubbyit> thx ^^
[23:19] <urlin2u> ^zenyhooubbyit, no problem, enjoy. :)
[23:20] <^zenyhooubbyit> how can I know if I had 04.03 version?
[23:21] <urlin2u> ^zenyhooubbyit, if you have lucid updated it is that version
[23:22] <urlin2u> ^zenyhooubbyit, cat /etc/apt/sources.list   in the terminal will show your repos list for confirming lucid if needed.
[23:23] <urlin2u> ^zenyhooubbyit, the .3 means the last build 30 days after realese.
[23:24] <^zenyhooubbyit> ok
[23:24] <urlin2u> longterm releases have a final build 30 days after release. ^zenyhooubbyit
[23:24] <^zenyhooubbyit> so what's the file I need to?
[23:24] <^zenyhooubbyit> yes
[23:25] <^zenyhooubbyit> so do I need to download the normal ubuntu iso image?
[23:25] <urlin2u> ^zenyhooubbyit, what is the computer model, and is it a 32 bit or 64 bit install.
[23:25] <^zenyhooubbyit> 32
[23:26] <^zenyhooubbyit> acer aspire notebook
[23:26] <urlin2u> ^zenyhooubbyit, standard computer not a mac right?
[23:27] <urlin2u> ^zenyhooubbyit, cool I'm typing from my acer d250 as we speak get the i86 live cd
[23:27] <urlin2u> sorry i386 ^zenyhooubbyit
[23:27] <^zenyhooubbyit> yes :)
[23:28] <^zenyhooubbyit> live cd?
[23:28] <urlin2u> yes the live cd will give you the desktop, gparted is already on the live cd.
[23:29] <^zenyhooubbyit> ehm...
[23:29] <^zenyhooubbyit> I forgotten to say you...
[23:29] <^zenyhooubbyit> I can't use cd reader XD
[23:30] <urlin2u> ^zenyhooubbyit, no problem you can put the iso on a usb
[23:30] <urlin2u> use the startup disc creator, I tink the name is slightly differnt in lucid
[23:30] <^zenyhooubbyit> ok, I'm downloading the first file from the page you linked
[23:30] <urlin2u> think*
[23:31] <^zenyhooubbyit> usb-creator?
[23:31] <urlin2u> ^zenyhooubbyit, this one ubuntu-10.04.3-desktop-i386.iso     yes usb creator.
[23:32] <^zenyhooubbyit> ok, I think I can create it from myself, thx :)
[23:32] <urlin2u> cool
[23:32] <^zenyhooubbyit> but I need a thing...
[23:33] <^zenyhooubbyit> to make the pc read usb first
[23:33] <^zenyhooubbyit> at startup
[23:33] <urlin2u> ^zenyhooubbyit, I noticed the HD was small will it not read a usb to boot?
[23:34] <^zenyhooubbyit> I don't know...
[23:34] <^zenyhooubbyit> I succeded to set it of reading CD reader first...
[23:35] <^zenyhooubbyit> from a blue screen...
[23:35] <urlin2u> ^zenyhooubbyit, to get a boot from menu power on and immediatly hold down the f12 key, or f2 and in the bios put the usb at the top of the boot there.
[23:35] <^zenyhooubbyit> BIOS I think
[23:36] <^zenyhooubbyit> yes thx :)
[23:36] <urlin2u> ^zenyhooubbyit, bios is fine but you can also just hit the f12 at powering and and choose the boot from.
[23:36] <^zenyhooubbyit> ah, I understand...
[23:37] <^zenyhooubbyit> never tried... I hope will works thx :)
[23:37] <urlin2u> ^zenyhooubbyit, the f12 option is a bot from gui outside of the bios, handy if you don't want to change the bios.
[23:37] <urlin2u> boot
[23:38] <urlin2u> brb
[23:48] <^zenyhooubbyit> thx :)
[23:48] <urlin2u> no problem
[23:54] <^zenyhooubbyit> hey, I already had usb-creator installed but don't know where it's installed and don't see its shortcurt...
[23:55] <urlin2u> ^zenyhooubbyit, should be in preferences or admin, I haven't used that desktop for awhile.
[23:56] <urlin2u> it is installed on the stock setup already
[23:57] <^zenyhooubbyit> ok
[23:57] <urlin2u> ^zenyhooubbyit, you downloaded this one ubuntu-10.04.3-desktop-i386.iso   for the ubuntu ISO right?