[00:32] jasoncwarner_, oh is see what you mean about the password entry size - it seems to be happening everywhere though [00:32] robert_ancell: yo [00:33] robert_ancell: so those merges for xig -- anything I need to do for them ? [00:33] the compiz tests fail without them :) [00:34] smspillaz, looking [00:35] oh, I didn't see your response [00:37] smspillaz, ah, right. What you really should do is the server should connected to the destroyed signal for the resources and remove them that way [00:37] so you're explicitly destroying the references from both sides, but the server should be implicitly destroying them [00:38] (or the other way around). The patch has both the server and client responsible which is dangerous if one of them gets out of sync [00:38] make sense? [00:41] kind of [00:41] hang on [00:46] so there's two ways we can do this - the client destroys itself, and the server detects that and destroys all its resources, or the client destroys all its resources then itself, and the server doesn't care [00:47] (from the internal POV I assume) [00:47] yes [00:47] robert_ancell: so I think the best way to handle this is to have a XigClientResource which XigSelection and XigDrawable inherit [00:47] yes [00:48] and then XigClientResource just has a pointer back to the owner which can be queried by the serer [00:48] *server [00:48] so when the client goes away the server can listen and clean up [00:48] the server doesn't really even need that [00:48] I don't really have time to work on that today [00:48] np [00:48] (just needed a status update) [00:48] I'll have a look if I've got time [00:48] scarce resource apparantly [00:49] indeed :) [00:51] smspillaz, note you can leave resources behind after quitting, but I'm not 100% how the protocol allows that (e.g. settings a background pixmap then quitting) [00:52] robert_ancell: as long as the resource is copied into another client ownership then yes [03:44] Bah. The one day I want to do some data manipulation and LibreOffice Calc won't start. [04:35] Good morning [04:53] Morning pitti. === fenris is now known as Guest55400 === Guest55400 is now known as ejat [05:37] jbicha: did you see the gnome-games FTBFS on arm? [05:37] seems the clutter stuff crept back in, was that due to a bad merge, or due to the new upstream versin? [05:52] pitti: I saw it but I didn't understand it [06:35] good morning [06:37] it's a Didier! bonjour [06:37] pitti: I hope it's the good one! :) How are you pitti? [06:37] no, it's the awesome one! [06:37] I'm quite fine, thanks! [06:37] :) [06:37] quite funny if your gtimelog says "Total work done: 2 h 6 min" at this hour already [06:40] * didrocks hugs pitti. It's half past seven and you are already here for 2 hours? [06:40] yeah, got up with Netti this morning (5:30) [06:40] yesterday I slept until 8:15 (some backlog from the weekend), I guess that sufficiently refreshed me [06:42] * pitti gives back a bunch of powerpc/armel build failures due to arch skew [06:43] RAOF: want me to sync colord? [06:44] well, I guess you can sync yourself, too [06:44] Yeah. I was going to let it stew in sid for a while. There's no urgent reason to sync it, is there? [06:45] RAOF: well, you tell me :) [06:45] I don't _think_ there is :) [07:22] didrocks: hm, was that unity change to keep the launcher visible uploaded? [07:22] didrocks: I just rebooted, and now it doesn't go away any more [07:22] and my windows are under teh launcher [07:23] pitti: yeah, the strut is not set only at startup [07:23] that's why the "my windows are under the launcher" [07:23] this is a pretty nasty regression now [07:23] well, it should be fixed in a few :) [07:23] ok, merci [07:23] didrocks: so, no need for the big "revert" club? [07:24] pitti: I didn't spot it (as I only did change the default value) as nobody reported it before (it should have been there with "always locked launcher") and I had to run unity-2d in the same session to test my settings change [07:24] but! unity-2d set the strut and didn't unset it [07:24] ah, I can work around by re-enabling the autohide option [07:24] so then, when I tested unity, I was thinking eveyrthing is fine : ) [07:24] pitti: yeah, it's only at startup, and no, no need for big revert [07:25] if we need everytime to reboot a session to recheck everything, I'm afraid of the cost of testing [07:25] especially with 2d/3d, that's why I tried on the same session [07:25] didn't thought that the struct can be set by one and kept :/ [07:26] kenvandine, Gwibber survived overnight test ... [07:37] didrocks: btw, when will you upload the next major unity release? [07:37] didrocks: looking at precise-fixes-report, 41 to go; want to know how much time I have :) [07:38] pitti: heh, thursday in a week, for feature freeze :) [07:38] that's tough! [07:40] heh :) [07:40] oh, I hope we can have a compiz release first === tjaalton_ is now known as tjaalton [07:52] didrocks: thanks for the unity upload, that was fast [07:53] pitti: yw ;) [07:53] reproduces nicely in a guest session, so easy to test [07:54] pitti: well, guest session is taking 4 minutes on my computer to setup [07:54] ! [07:54] how's that? [07:54] and when I'm back the whole screen is black [07:54] didrocks: I meant, I'm happy to test it again once it built [07:54] 2 Go of RAM [07:55] (so swapping with thunderbird opened and chromium I guess) [07:55] is that the guest session specifically, or any extra sessino? [07:55] and when going back, the nvidia blob driver isn't nice [07:55] pitti: any extra session, I really think it's a memory issue [07:55] and my disk is slower and slower I guess [07:55] (almost dying :)) [07:55] so I get regular X crashes on ETOOMANYWRITES [07:56] pitti: this time I disconnected from my session to test it, but more testing is really appreciated :) === Zdra is now known as xclaesse [08:18] cyphermox: do you plan to merge modemmanager with Debian? they have 0.5.1, while we still have a git snapshot [08:25] TheMuso, are you still around? [08:27] pitti, TheMuso instead of uploading a half-tested ALSA, why not use the community QA team to confirm that it works well before uploading? [08:27] you could put it into the ubuntu-desktop or sound testing PPA [08:28] but I figure the user space side should be less harmful than the kernel side of .25, and we already have that anyway [08:29] pitti, ok, I replied to TheMuso's email and cc'ed jono asking him to coordinate with the community team [08:29] we may as well have some test cases and do some rigorous testing before uploading it for everbody [08:30] breaking sound has a significant impact on velocity ;) [08:30] * rickspencer3 mulls various jokes using the phrase "sound barrier" [08:31] rickspencer3: Yeah fair call, but having looked at the changelogs, upstream code is fixes for the most part, userspace wise anyway, as pitti says, the kernel side is not aplicable here. I am more concerned about me ahving broken something with packaging, which would be relatively easy to fix anyways. [08:31] And I've been running the 2 core pieces here for a day or so now anyway. [08:32] TheMuso, none the less, I think it wuold be good practice to do some formal testing first [08:32] people get really upset when we break sound [08:32] for instance, I get cranky when I can't watch my Taylor Swift videos [08:32] * micahg assumes rickspencer3 isn't maching the process [08:32] rickspencer3: uhm...que? [08:33] hi jasoncwarner_ [08:33] rickspencer3: sorry, my IRC taylor swift alarm went off... [08:33] lol [08:46] hey [08:47] bonjour seb128 [08:47] rickspencer3, salut, ca va bien ? [08:47] oui, je vais bien, et tois? [08:50] rickspencer3, j'ai un peu froid mais sinon ca va bien ;-) [08:50] waouh, pitti on an updates rampage \o/ [08:50] seb128: bonjour :) [08:50] seb128: wanted to do all the ones you told me yesterday by the time you woke up :) [08:50] hey pitti, wie gehts? thanks a lot for doing those updates [08:50] (and I managed) [08:50] de rien [08:51] pitti, I was not looking for third day in a row of doing updates full day so it's really appreciated ;-) [08:52] seb128: I also updated g-i and pygobject (unsurprisingly, I guess :) ) [08:53] hehe, not a surprise indeed ;-) [08:54] Where can I find Ubuntu packaging gurus? I am having trouble with debian/watch file [08:57] not sure about gurus but people here or on #ubuntu-devel should be able to help you [08:58] well, I was told that I need watch file and now I am trying to convince uscan to find a file that is available in launchpad [08:58] more precisely, this one: http://launchpad.net/kazam/unstable/1.0/+download/kazam_1.0.tar.gz [09:05] BigWhale: ah, launchpad watch files all look teh same [09:05] BigWhale: try this: [09:05] version=3 [09:05] http://launchpad.net/kazam/+download .*/kazam_([0-9.]+)\.tar\.gz [09:05] -- [09:05] you can test with "uscan --report --verbose" [09:06] seb128: still waiting on ppc to give back the remaining packages; I gave back some this morning, but don't bother about the remaining ones right now, they'll fail again [09:06] pitti, yeah, see the version table, it's full of ppc build issues [09:07] pitti, I've commented on some of the rickspencer3's reassigned bug as well [09:07] pitti, thanks.. I'll give it a try [09:14] When I'm done with all of this, I'll write this monstrous blog post on how to get software to Ubuntu. :> [09:18] hehe [09:18] pitti, seems like we had a similar reply to jasoncwarner_'s email at the same time ;-) [09:21] seb128: as for gnome-keyring, my gut feeling is that we should backport some fixes; no strong opinion, though [09:22] I have one last question about versioning... :> right now I have kazam (1.0.1-0ubuntu1) precise; ... in version file. if I want to make an oneiric release, I have to change the version string, right? so, I change it to what? [09:23] pitti, does it work if I claim you are the maintainer for it and that it's your call? ;-) [09:23] seb128: I had that coming, I guess ;) [09:23] ;-) [09:24] so, I guess I'll have a look at 3.3.5 and check [09:24] pitti, I'm a bit concerned by the work involved by packaging the new sources and by the fact that stef said that the fallback mode was less tested that the new dbus stuff for gnome-shell [09:24] but I think cherry-picking some fixes should be safer [09:25] we don't currently have many problems with the keyring stuff [09:25] though he's usually a good upstream and if we find bugs in the fallback he will probably fix them [09:25] at least that I know of [09:25] right [09:25] we got bitten in the past [09:25] but doing updates when not needed which created work [09:25] and as long as it doesn't block apps or g-shell from updating, I'd prefer to keep them [09:25] seiflotfy1: hey, the COPYING shipped in activity-log-manager says GPL2 whereas all the headers are LGPL2+ [09:26] pitti, same here [09:29] good morning everyone [09:29] hey chrisccoulson [09:29] hi pitti, how are you? [09:30] quite fine, thanks! how about you? [09:30] hey chrisccoulson, how are you? [09:30] seb128 pitti, tired ;) [09:30] seb128, you? [09:30] hey chrisccoulson [09:30] chrisccoulson: burning the midnight oil again? [09:30] hi didrocks [09:31] chrisccoulson, still stucked into your "going to be at 3am"? [09:31] yeah ;) [09:31] lu didrocks [09:32] salut seb128 :) [10:26] seb128: hey, it seems you forgot to push gnome-menus 3.2.0.1-2ubuntu2 to the vcs [10:26] didrocks, looking [10:26] so I pushed agateau's branch but got a reject :) [10:27] didrocks, sorry :-( [10:27] seb128: no worry! do you still have it? [10:28] didrocks, hum, wtf [10:29] didrocks, I pushed but the stored push location was ~ubuntu-desktop/gnome-menus/gnome2/, I probably mixed up my vcses between gnome-menus-2 that we kept by compat and trunk, let me fix that [10:29] seb128: oh, make sense, yeah, we should remove the ubuntugtk3 and every branhes like that :) [10:29] branches* [10:30] didrocks, what vcs did you use? [10:30] bzr: ERROR: Not a branch: "bzr+ssh://bazaar.launchpad.net/+branch/lp:~ubuntu-desktop/gnome-menus/ubuntu/". [10:30] I'm getting confused [10:30] hum [10:30] lp:~ubuntu-desktop/gnome-menus/ubuntu [10:30] are you sure about the adress? [10:31] bzr+ssh://bazaar.launchpad.net/+branch/***lp:***~ubuntu-desktop/gnome-menus/ubuntu/ [10:31] lalalal [10:31] didn't you lp:lp:~ubuntu… ? [10:31] :p [10:31] :) [10:31] seb128: I know twice is better than one, but not everytime ;) [10:33] didrocks, hum, so you pushed your revision, should I just merge and push mine? [10:33] didrocks, or should I uncommit it, overwrite with mine and let you rebase? [10:33] seb128: as you wish, if we want bzr correctness, you can uncommit [10:34] and I'll rebase [10:34] didrocks, doing that [10:36] didrocks, ok, done, pull --overwrite please and sorry for the work [10:36] didrocks, well, uncommit [10:36] pull --overwrite [10:36] and you should be go to recommit [10:36] with your diff ready to apply or almost [10:36] hi all. [10:36] hey Sweetshark [10:37] http://nabble.documentfoundation.org/next-BoD-call-on-Wednesday-td3719497.html#a3720191 <- nice vote of confidence by an independant [10:37] * Sweetshark dances a bit. [10:39] seb128: no worry :) [10:49] pitti, thanks for your help yesterday: http://theravingrick.blogspot.com/2012/02/girrrr-pygame-gtk-in-goi-world.html [10:50] rickspencer3: btw, a lot of this conversion can be done automatically with pygi-convert.sh [10:50] pitti, I know [10:50] but I thought it would be useful to have a small test case [10:51] nice that it works now! [10:51] pitti, well, thanks to your work and blog posts, it was pretty easy ;) [11:30] mvo, hey [11:30] mvo, how do i tell if updates are installing via that pk interface [11:31] * ronoc double checks the pkclient header [11:39] didrocks: there? [11:40] some imp thing [11:40] manish: hey hey :) [11:40] manish: I was looking for you! [11:40] manish: the COPYRIGHT file is mentionning GPL2 [11:40] where the whole project is licenced LGPL2+ [11:40] can I get a tarball fixing that? :) [11:41] will do in a few hours [11:41] need to get back home [11:41] another thing is [11:41] i talked to mhr3 and thansen (a gentoo packager) [11:41] that the source package should be named activity-log-manager instead of alm [11:41] and no 3 letter binaries [11:42] didrocks: activity-log-manager binary and libactivity-log-manager.so? Would it be fine? [11:42] manish: it's already the case btw :) [11:42] manish: the source package and binary is activity-log-manager [11:42] for the lib, sure, you can change :) [11:43] didrocks: but the tarball was named alm-0.9.0? remember? [11:43] that won't matter. I think so [11:43] manish: I know and I remember to have renamed it :) [11:43] good [11:43] I made that mistake [11:43] bah.. too many mistakes [11:43] no worry, it's not the first time our packages don't match the upstream sources :) [11:43] manish: the COPYING one is an important one [11:44] yes [11:44] manish: I don't push the new version before the new release fixing it is released :) [11:44] okay [11:44] wait for an hour [11:44] will get back home [11:44] sure ;) [11:44] and do you want me to change the tarball name in this one? [11:45] didrocks: I will just tell you the changes I am going to make in this patched tarball [11:45] manish: it's really as you wish, it doesn't really matter for me [11:45] 1) COPYING [11:45] 2) tarball name [11:45] 3) library name change [11:45] sounds good! :) [11:45] 4) binary name change [11:46] now I hope you can make the necessary changes on your side [11:46] manish: will do! [11:47] seb128: hum, can you take a screenshot pressing alt? [11:47] seb128: I have the effect, but nothing is happening here [11:47] didrocks, yes, they go to your Images dir without displaying a dialog [11:47] it's confusing, I need to check upstream if that's wanted [11:47] you only get the dialog if you use gnome-screenshot -i [11:47] i.e the ui [11:47] seb128: oh waow [11:47] otherwise they are autotaken and stored [11:48] yeah, confusing, I think we will need to fix that ;-) [11:48] confusing change when you get used to it, indeed [11:51] c'mon, build faster!!!! [11:52] * chrisccoulson cracks whip at armel porter [11:52] poor armel building firefox and then being whiped [11:53] i'm glad i'm finally getting somewhere with mozilla bug 716036 now [11:53] Mozilla bug 716036 in Layout "css z-ordering renders invisible text on google search page" [Normal,Unconfirmed: ] http://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=716036 [11:53] and it looks like a cairo bug ;) [11:54] lol [11:55] why I am not surprised ;-) [11:55] heh [11:56] it seems to be drawing transparent glyphs as white on armel for some reason [11:56] I blame xorg :p [11:57] lol [12:04] hi all, since this morning the unity launcher is not doing autohide and stays on top of all my windows. Is this a known problem, or does anyone have a workaround? [12:08] oh, it was just the default setting that had been changed, I could restore auto-hide from the control center [12:46] mvo, ping [12:46] ? [12:47] mvo, don't know how to figure out when updates are installing [12:47] will leave it out for now [12:47] but that was part of the spec [12:47] it seems much more stable than before using the new pk kit compat layer [12:48] going to take lunch - let me know what dependencies i should list in my configure.ac [12:48] I already have the pkglib-lib [12:49] do i need any others - that python compat pk layer thingie from yesterday [12:49] ? [12:49] right lunch === MacSlow is now known as MacSlow|lunch [12:54] ronoc: so if aptdaemon creates events on the PK compat layer, than you can watch for those, but I will have to check with glatzor if that is possible/fits into the scheme of things [12:55] mvo, events as in ? [12:55] right now i listen for the udpateschanged and reboot_scheduled [12:55] sil2100: hey, just answered to your email btw [12:56] signals [12:56] ronoc: creating transactions [12:56] ronoc: aha, I see [12:56] mvo, yeah but surely transactions can be behind anything [12:56] i just want to know if there are actual new updates being installed at that moment [12:57] didrocks: thanks [12:57] mvo, ill push what i have now [12:57] we can fix that after FF if we can [12:57] at least the port has been done :) [12:58] * ronoc doesn't want to know anything about transactions ... [12:58] if i can help it [13:01] ronoc: I'm not sure that is possible with the current interface, it looks like you need to react to TransactionListChanged and check those if they are updates (unless the C api hides that away) [13:02] mvo, ok [13:18] err I used dput to upload to a ppa, then I canceled the build request, package still got build, then I deleted the package and now I got rejected for a build because apparently my source already exists. How do I get rid of it? :/ [13:19] you can't [13:19] upload a new revision [13:19] curses [13:20] you can't get the same version published twice [13:21] it would be very confusing for launchpad,users, especially if somebody got the first upload [13:21] I agree [13:36] I think I secretly hate bzr and launchpad [13:44] good morning seb128 [13:44] did you notice the theme breakages in the latest gtk? [13:45] gwibber and evolution seem to be the most broken [13:45] kenvandine, hey, yes, I warned you yesterday before upload: p [13:45] kenvandine, Cimi has a new unico and light-themes [13:45] oh... i thought you warned about all the deprecations [13:45] kenvandine, I was about to look at doing those updates [13:45] kenvandine, deprecation and issues ;-) [13:45] ok :) [13:46] kenvandine, do you want to do them or do you want to do indicator-session and other stuff? I'm done with GNOME so I've free time [13:46] "them" [13:46] i will do the indicators [13:46] kenvandine, unico light-themes, I can do them if you want or I can let them to you [13:46] oh, are they updated? [13:46] i can do those [13:46] kenvandine, Cimi commited fixes an hour ago [13:47] woot [13:47] kenvandine, as said I was just going to look at them [13:47] seb128, you can do unico [13:47] but I'm happy for you to take them if you are not too busy [13:47] i'll do light-themes [13:47] :) [13:47] kenvandine, ok, you do light-themes? [13:47] great! [13:47] on my way ;-) [13:48] ronoc, from now on just give me branches and i'll manually update the patch... merging just refuses to work :/ [13:48] it is easy enough to cherry pick your new revisions and put them in my diff [13:48] kenvandine, get the sound stuff in precise! [13:48] ;-) [13:48] works great here [13:48] i plan too :) [13:49] ronoc, is that cool with you? if i upload it today? [13:49] m4n1sh: back home? :) [13:50] kenvandine, btw did you notice that they rolled a new empathy tarball yesterday? [13:50] yes [13:50] working on it [13:50] seb128, i did [13:50] kenvandine, just mentioning it in case you didn't notice [13:50] ok, great [13:50] on my todo list :) [13:50] didrocks: this is the license? right? http://git.gnome.org/browse/pygobject/tree/COPYING [13:51] seb128: hi! is there a bug open on the light-themes issue with the latest gtk? (I couldn't find it). the lack of contrast makes it difficult for me to read email headers in evolution [13:51] jdstrand, we have theme updates to match the new gtk on their way, try back in one hour when the fixes are landed please [13:51] seb128, what is the new unico version? upping the depends in light-themes [13:51] seb128: ok, thanks [13:52] kenvandine, 1.0.1-0ubuntu2 [13:53] kenvandine, Cimi didn't roll a tarball, I just backport the recent commit [13:53] cool [13:53] m4n1sh: no, it's not, you are using LGPL2 [13:53] + [13:53] yes + [13:54] didrocks: you have the full license text for it? [13:54] m4n1sh: /usr/share/common-licenses/LGPL-2 [13:54] on your ubuntu system [13:54] just copy it from here [13:54] thanks [13:56] seb128, let me know when you push the unico branch, i'll do a local build to test the theme [13:57] seb128, can you also do the notify-osd update? [13:57] kenvandine, ok, 2 minutes [13:57] kenvandine, can do yes [13:57] thx [13:57] yw [13:57] didrocks: if bin_PROGRAMS = activity-log-manager [13:57] then alm_CFLAGS changes to activity_log_manager_CFLAGS? [13:57] - changes to _ [13:57] right? [13:58] indeed [13:58] thanks === dduffey_afk is now known as dduffey [14:00] didrocks: can you check that the packages you built, in those are AUTHROS going in /usr/doc instead of /usr/share/doc ? [14:01] kenvandine, lets do it ! [14:01] is anyone interested in indicator-weather anymore? [14:01] ronoc, any changes since yesterday for me to pull in? [14:02] it's been crashy since natty [14:02] m4n1sh: I had to move the doc from /usr/doc to /usr/share/doc, indeed [14:02] kenvandine, nope just that branch from yesterday, there is however an issue with bluetooth devices [14:02] that i was going to look at today [14:02] kenvandine, do you want to wait until i fix that [14:02] ronoc, eta? [14:02] kenvandine, hopefully EOB today [14:02] i have plenty to do, so i can just wait a few hours on g-c-c [14:02] :) [14:03] kenvandine, ok cool - will get back to you in a bit [14:03] awesome [14:05] kenvandine, unico pushed [14:05] thx [14:06] kenvandine, hum, I might switch it back to source v1 though [14:06] i just saw, it won't build :) [14:06] kenvandine, I will --overwrite the most recent commit to switch to source v1, v3 doesn't deal well with bzr merge backports [14:06] do it [14:06]