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SpamapS@pilot out01:26
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pittiGood morning04:35
mdeslaurgood morning pitti04:37
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pittijibel: is this a temporary glitch, or config error? https://jenkins.qa.ubuntu.com/view/Precise/job/precise-upgrade-lucid-server/lastFailedBuild/ARCH=amd64,LTS=lts,PROFILE=server,label=upgrade-test/artifact/lts-server-amd64/bootstrap.log05:46
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dholbachhighvoltage, happy birthday! :)07:46
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highvoltagethanks dholbach_ :)08:56
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jibelpitti, it was a temporary error. qemu failed to setup correctly for some reason. I restarted the test and it's ok. results will be published in less than an hour09:03
pittijibel: *phew*, thanks09:05
Sweetsharklamont, infinity: https://launchpadlibrarian.net/92227283/buildlog_ubuntu-precise-amd64.libreoffice_1%3A3.5.0~rc1-0ubuntu1~ppa2_FAILEDTOBUILD.txt.gz <- did you guys also raise the fs-size for amd64? i386 now builds just fine, but amd64 still fails ...10:08
jamespageBenC: OK with you if I pickup a merge of nodejs from Debian?  need to transition to new version of libv810:47
azzais anyone online11:19
seb128azza, likely yes but most people don't reply to questions which are not asked yet ;-)11:20
azzawhere do i find the download link for ubuntu source code11:21
azzaor the link to where i can download the files11:21
seb128azza, http://www.ubuntu.com/download/ubuntu/download11:21
seb128azza, you can get any source on http://launchpad.net/ubuntu as well11:22
azzathank you11:23
seb128you're welcome11:24
azzawhere can i find the original source code files (that is, official, unedited code)11:29
seb128azza, source of what?11:30
azzasource code files for ubuntu. the code that is used in the version currently released11:31
seb128azza, usually it's the orig.tar.gz,bzr2,xz from source packages11:31
YokoZarazza: right, it's all available, but it consists of many different components11:31
azzai know that11:32
azzabut where can i find the original files? what's the url to the page containing the original code files?11:32
YokoZarFor which part?11:32
azzathe whole OS11:37
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tjaaltondamn.. @pilot in12:00
tjaalton@pilot in12:00
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lamontSweetshark: 1) build URLs rather than buildlog URLs are more useful.  2) it's luck-of-the-draw on what builder you get, with most of them being the standard "too small for you" size...12:01
lamontSweetshark: and fixing the build to not be so fat is going to be (I suspect) a faster path to happiness12:02
Tm_Ttjaalton: aww12:07
Tm_Tpulled the short straw?12:08
tjaaltonTm_T: just starting late, that's all12:09
Sweetsharklamont: so you want me to remove superflous stuff like "running the test suite" from the build?12:10
justgordis there a short command to list all installed PPAs ?12:10
lamontSweetshark: that would be one way to do it, I don't know the packgae well enough to recommend specific ways to reduce the disk footprint.  In the case of the kernel, they originally kept all the intermediate stuff around for the entire build (building multiple kernels), and switched to removing the intermediate objects after each kernel was linked12:16
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justgordto answer my own newbie question - ls /etc/apt/sources.list.d  # lists installed PPAs12:21
Sweetsharklamont: well, we just added testing to the build because it is the Right Thing(tm) to do. And I sure will not adapt the package for artificial limitations of the tooling. Tools are a service to the product and not the other way around.12:26
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diwicis it just me, or did the theming in 12.04 just become very broken?12:50
seb128diwic, it's a gtk change how theming work, Cimi has to catch up and update our themes game12:59
seb128which is happening to every tarball recently13:00
seb128the issue from yesterday should be fixed in a theme update today13:00
seb128Cimi just got that done13:00
diwicseb128, okay, thanks, no use reporting bugs for that then13:02
seb128diwic, there are some bugs on light-themes (ubuntu) already, but yeah, wait for today updates before reporting13:02
mvomicahg: synaptic finally build !13:19
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ppisatii just dist-upgraded, and it seems audio is dead in flash13:42
ppisatiam i the only one experiencing it?13:42
lamontso... wtf would debuild -S decide that we should have 'Architecture: any all'?13:46
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sorenDon't builds on the buildd's run as root?14:19
soren(PPA buildd's if it matters)14:20
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sorenIf they are running as root, why on Earth would /proc/<pid of some process I started in the build> not be owned by root? It's owned by uid 2001.14:24
rbasakIs this fakeroot related?14:30
sorenrbasak: Shoulnd't be. buildd's don't use fakeroot, AFAIK.14:32
sorenThey do.14:33
sorenAh, that may be debhelper's doing.14:33
sorenrbasak: Hm. I always assumed this all ran as root.14:34
sorenDarn it, have to run.14:34
hallynzul: could you please syncpackage -d unstable numactl14:39
zulhallyn: yep will do14:41
zulhallyn: done14:43
hallynzul: thanks14:43
micahgmvo: great, thanks!14:58
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barryjtaylor: let's coordinate later today or tomorrow on numpy16:34
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dokostgraber, do you cover cjwatson for the release meeting?17:04
stgraberdoko: apparently we both replied at the same time, but as I said I'm always attending the meeting anyway and I'm used to writing these team reports, so I'm happy to cover for cjwatson17:07
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mwhudsondoes python2.7-dbg no longer include detached debugging symbols for the non debug python?17:44
mwhudsonah it does17:46
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smoserslangasek, can i get someone on foundations to look at bug 89837318:09
ubottuLaunchpad bug 898373 in cloud-init (Ubuntu) "fsck.ext3: Device or resource busy while trying to open /dev/xvda2" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/89837318:09
slangaseksmoser: I think you're really going to need someone to look at it from the kernel side18:11
slangasekbecause there's nothing else in the foundations stack that would be holding that device open18:11
smoserwhy? its something user space that has got it open.18:11
slangasekhow do you know?18:11
smoserwhy would the kernel have it open? it hasnt even been yet told to mount it18:12
smoser(yes, i realize thats a good argument for why user space didn't open it too)18:12
slangaseksmoser: I don't know why the kernel would have it open, but I know there's nothing in the core userspace stack that should have it open :)18:14
smosersmb, ^18:15
smoseraroudn ?18:15
smosercan you think of anything?18:15
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tjaalton@pilot out18:23
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barryslangasek: do you have any idea where this warning comes from when i apt-get install packages on precise: Sorry, your system lacks support for the snapshot feature18:23
tjaaltonjdstrand: hey, what's the status of bug 903752?18:24
ubottuLaunchpad bug 903752 in tevent (Ubuntu) "[MIR] sssd" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/90375218:24
slangasekbarry: when you apt-get install?  Nope - interesting18:24
slangasekbarry: maybe check what's installed hooks in /etc/apt/apt.conf.d/ ?18:24
barryslangasek: doesn't seem to affect anything, so i've been ignoring it, but it's slightly annoying and da googlz is no help18:24
barryah good idea, will look18:25
jdstrandtjaalton: review of ssd is not completed yet. hope to finish soon18:25
tjaaltonjdstrand: ok, thanks18:25
psusibarry: do you have apt-btrfs-snapshot installed?18:26
barrypsusi: apparently so, that must be it18:26
* jussi hugs Laney18:51
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bjfbarry, we are seeing some breakage in LP scripts that we have. bug_task.date_created is returning 'unicode' objects when it should be returning 'datetime' objects19:22
bjfbarry, does this seem like a recent python library change or a LP api change ? (looking for a wild ass guess)19:22
barrybjf: probably an lp api change19:22
bjfbarry, ack, will trot over an inquire there19:23
barrybjf: cool19:23
bjfbarry, by the way, this breakage is only on Precise19:23
barrybjf: all signs point to lpapi :)19:28
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EtienneGguys, I am a bit confused.  I want to request a sync from Debian testing.  I use requestsync, it creates an FFe bug on LP. So far so good.  Now, someone points out that FF is not past so need for an FFe.   But DebianImportFreeze is passed.  Do I need an FFe bug or not?    *confused*20:38
SarvattEtienneG: feature freeze is feb 16th, debian import freeze just means packages arent automatically pulled from debian and need a sync request/merge  to get updated20:39
EtienneGSarvatt, that makes ton of sense.  So, to do a sync request, should I use syncrequest?20:40
EtienneG(sorry to be so daft, I am a little slow)20:41
Sarvattrequestsync, just dont pass -e that you passed to it20:41
EtienneGSarvatt, ah ha!  then, *that* is what I did wrong20:41
EtienneGSarvatt, thanks mucho20:41
TheMusodiwic: I'm onto the alsa conf.d bits, I used the wrong path. :S21:05
highvoltagedevious secure boot details revealed in Windows 8 announcement: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1rHceul_3U8&feature=related21:05
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bdmurraybarry: I'm inclined to think that bug 898851 might be fixed in aptdaemon21:15
ubottuLaunchpad bug 898851 in aptdaemon (Ubuntu) "update-manager crashed with TypeError in function(): Must be number, not tuple" [High,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/89885121:15
bdmurraybut without knowing which version of update-manager those people had installed when the crash happened its hard to tell21:16
* Sweetshark -> eod21:20
Ampelbeinbdmurray: Doesn't the Dependencies attachment contain the needed version? update-manager-core 1:0.154.621:22
adam_gstgraber: ping21:22
bdmurrayAmpelbein: that attachment gets (or was getting) removed by the apport-retrace - there is a change that stops that21:24
bdmurrayand when I said which version of update-manager I meant aptdaemon21:24
bdmurraybut the dependencies.txt thing is still true21:25
stgraberadam_g: pong21:25
Ampelbeinbdmurray: ok, didn't know it was removed when apport sets dupes.21:25
bdmurraywell it should stop soon21:26
adam_gstgraber: some issue in openstack and i just noticed differing return iproute return codes between versions: http://paste.ubuntu.com/834491/  which ive tracked tohttp://git.jauu.net/?p=iproute2.git;a=commitdiff;h=7397944de6c11519a5951fc1bcff20225e71c4bd  figured id ask you, if that is a known thing and an issue anywhere else21:29
stgraberadam_g: I don't believe I saw something else break because of it though I'm guessing some other things probably didn't like the change in behaviour ...21:32
adam_ghmm, actually that git repositroy is not the upstream, but in any case...21:35
adam_gstgraber: first place ive noticed any breakage, and a quick check going back as far as maverick shows 25421:36
stgraberadam_g: do you know if the issue was reported in the Debian BTS?21:37
stgraberadam_g: the only change I made to this package is adding a Multi-Arch field, so I'd rather avoid diverging more for a package that seems pretty well maintained in Debian21:37
barrybdmurray: i think so too actually, but as you say it's hard to tell, so that's why i marked it incomplete21:38
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adam_gstgraber: nope. i wasn't suggesting we patch, just curious if you knew anything about it21:43
stgraberadam_g: nope, first time I hear about it. Thanks for mentioning it though, might end up useful when trying to track down some bugs ;)21:44
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argesslangasek, hello22:11
argesslangasek, i just backported a patch for lp #688550 to lucid. what format would you prefer for the SRU of that bug? should i create a bzr branch? provide the debdiff? or something else?22:13
ubottuLaunchpad bug 688550 in portmap (Ubuntu Oneiric) "portmap/statd can not be restarted" [Undecided,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/68855022:13
tomreynpitti + others: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/update-manager/+bug/873424/comments/10 says this fixed package was built on Jan 13, but it doesn't seem to be available in oneiric-proposed, yet? Did it FTB?22:13
ubottuUbuntu bug 873424 in update-manager (Ubuntu Oneiric) "ask me later fails" [Medium,Fix committed]22:13
slangasekarges: IMHO, debdiffs are the most practical to work with for SRU22:16
argesslangasek, ok cool. will provide that then22:17
bdmurraytomreyn: looking22:19
bdmurraytomreyn: its there but the patch happens to be incomplete22:19
bdmurrayspeaking of that if I want to upload a new version to proposed when one is already there what do I do?22:20
stgraberdoko: ping22:24
stgraberdoko: Depends: libc6 (>= 2.15), libdbus-1-3 (>= 1.0.2), libexpat1 (>= 1.95.8), libnih1 (>= 1.0.0)22:24
stgraberdoko: that's in nih-dbus-tool22:24
stgraberdoko: obviously doesn't work with libc6 being 2.15~pre6-0ubuntu10 :)22:25
stgraberdoko: and it's breaking my upstart upload as a result (which build-depends on nih-dbus-tool)22:25
dokostgraber, I uploaded libnih for a rebuild. is this one already installed?22:27
stgraberdoko: yes, that's the one that's not installable22:28
stgraberdoko: the new binaries from the libnih rebuild have libc6 (>= 2.15) instead of (>= 2.15~)22:28
dokocursing the use of private symbols in libnih22:29
dokoyeah, will have to ask for a manual eglibc build22:29
stgraberdoko: I'll be looking for another libnih upload before doing a mass give back of upstart (though it managed to build on at least i386 where the new nih wasn't published yet ;))22:40
dokostgraber, yeah, will work for armel and armhf. you need to edit the libc b-d22:41
dokostgraber, please use a b-d on (>= 2.15). I'm preparing packages22:42
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dokostgraber, ohh, lucky day! this dependency only is in nih-dbus-tool, not libnih1, so it builds normally23:10
stgraberdoko: yep, it's just blocking upstart as upstart b-d on nih-dbus-tool :)23:11
stgraberdoko: anyway, I'm monitoring LP now, as soon as it's published I'll give back the upstart FTBFS and everything should be good23:11
dokowho cares about upstart ;-P23:11
stgraber(well, except for upstart's test failing on some architectures but that's not new, my change doesn't touch the code ...)23:11
stgraberyeah, nobody uses that ;)23:12
tomreynbdmurray: thanks for reporting back. and i'm afraid i have no idea what to do then...23:13
bdmurraytomreyn: what do you mean? or what problem are you having?23:13
tomreynbdmurray: i'm saying i have no idea how to upload a new version to proposed when one is already there. and my problem would be that check-new-release-gtk currently in oneiric-proposed still fails (we discussed this here an hour ago).23:20
bdmurraytomreyn: oh, I'm working on a new version of update-manager for oneiric proposed.23:22
tomreyncool, thanks.23:30

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