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| * smb wonders what a "strut" is... | 08:16 | |
| Kano | hi apw | 08:19 |
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| Kano | apw: would you update aufs when you get simply instructions to do so? already verified with an iso image using aufs3? | 08:20 |
| Kano | apw: also ndiswrapper 1.57 compiles with 3.2 kernel, why dont intergrate that? | 08:21 |
| ohsix | bleagh | 08:23 |
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| * ppisati -> reboot | 11:39 | |
| === chuck_ is now known as zul | ||
| snadge | who looks after the 3.3 shit? :p | 12:21 |
| snadge | kernel.ubuntu.com | 12:21 |
| snadge | ooo theres an rc2 now ;) | 12:22 |
| snadge | rc1 wasnt booting on an amd zacate system of mine | 12:25 |
| snadge | but it does on bulldozer 8150 | 12:25 |
| apw | 1276852736 | 13:27 |
| reisei | Hi, all. I'm using ubuntu-oneiric kernel on the ARM device. There is a problem: when I halt the system it have a segfault after unmounting file system... please, advice, how can I fix it? | 13:49 |
| tgardner | ppisati, ^^ | 13:49 |
| ppisati | reisei: kernel version? | 13:50 |
| reisei | ppisati: 3.0.13 | 13:50 |
| ppisati | reisei: i'm checking, hold on | 13:51 |
| ppisati | reisei: uname -a | 13:52 |
| reisei | ppisati: | 13:53 |
| reisei | Linux omap4430-panda 3.0.13 #0 SMP PREEMPT Wed Jan 25 13:16:31 MSK 2012 armv7l GNU/Linux | 13:54 |
| ppisati | reisei: did you build it by yourself? | 13:58 |
| reisei | ppisati: yep | 13:59 |
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| ppisati | reisei: then it's unsupported | 14:00 |
| ppisati | reisei: btw, do you have musb enabled? | 14:00 |
| reisei | ppisati: :-( Even, you can't suggest what's wrong? | 14:01 |
| reisei | ppisati: yes. | 14:01 |
| ppisati | reisei: ok, disable it, it causes panic at shutdown | 14:01 |
| ppisati | reisei: i swa some fixes for it upstream, but never ehcked if they hit -stable | 14:01 |
| reisei | ppisati: thanks! I'll try it. | 14:02 |
| reisei | ppisati: yes, it works. | 14:11 |
| ppisati | reisei: ok then, either you update to a more recent -stable version of you r kernel | 14:12 |
| ppisati | reisei: or you could look for "musb shutdown fixes" on the arm lkml ml | 14:12 |
| apw | tgardner, did ogasawara confirm it was the procps patches that were her boot problem do you know ? | 14:13 |
| ogasawara | apw: I did | 14:13 |
| ogasawara | apw: I yanked em | 14:13 |
| tgardner | apw, no, I do not know for sure | 14:13 |
| tgardner | ah, nm | 14:13 |
| apw | ogasawara, oh heh hi | 14:13 |
| apw | it early there isn't it ? | 14:13 |
| reisei | ppisati: ok. Thanks a lot... Can't solve that problem for a week. | 14:14 |
| ogasawara | apw: it is, but it's my normal start time anyways | 14:14 |
| ogasawara | apw: I try to squeeze in as much time while the nugget is asleep | 14:14 |
| ogasawara | apw: I tested on i386. it would appear to boot properly, but then hang and vomit an oops for a null pointer dereference | 14:15 |
| apw | ogasawara, not good. will have a play with it and try and figure that one out | 14:16 |
| ogasawara | apw: I can try booting it again here and get more detailed info | 14:16 |
| ogasawara | apw: hrm, except I didn't save the bad build nor the patches. you have them somewhere so I can re-create? | 14:17 |
| apw | ogasawara, i have em, but don't worry i'll play with em | 14:17 |
| apw | commit 633b45454503489209b0d9a45f9e3cd1b852c614 | 14:18 |
| apw | Author: Eric Paris <eparis@redhat.com> | 14:18 |
| apw | Date: Tue Jan 3 14:23:08 2012 -0500 | 14:18 |
| apw | audit: only allow tasks to set their loginuid if it is -1 | 14:18 |
| apw | ogasawara, i'll let you investigate that one, which is a new tunable for systemd systems whcih we may need to be aware of | 14:18 |
| ogasawara | apw: ack | 14:18 |
| ppisati | ok, configuring /etc/asound.conf to use pulse made audio in flash video work again | 14:29 |
| brendand | my flash sound is coming out the internal speaker instead of the usb headset, even though any other sound is coming out the headset | 14:32 |
| ppisati | brendand: out of curiosity, what's thje content of /etc/asound.conf for you? | 14:34 |
| brendand | ppisati, eh - it doesn't exist? any other place it could be? | 14:34 |
| ppisati | cat ~/.asoundrc | 14:35 |
| brendand | ppisati, nor that | 14:36 |
| ppisati | brendand: than i don't know, i had to do all this crap to make it work | 14:39 |
| brendand | ppisati, not sure why i don't have those files | 14:40 |
| ppisati | brendand: what i read around is that if you don't get any noise out of flash is beacuse the audio is nit routed through pulse-audio | 14:40 |
| ppisati | brendand: in fact, without it, i don't see any flash-stuff in the consumer list of pulseaudio (Sound Settings -> Applications) | 14:41 |
| brendand | ppisati, i think i have a different problem. i'll need to find exactly what's going on when i get a chance. probably a reboot will fix it though | 14:42 |
| * ppisati -> coffee, brb | 14:55 | |
| * cking -> pick up kid from school, back in 25 mins or so | 14:56 | |
| === shadeslayer_ is now known as shadeslayer | ||
| apw | ogasawara, am i correct in thinking you are using master-next in ubuntu-q ? | 15:35 |
| tgardner | apw, I created master-next in that repo | 15:35 |
| ogasawara | apw: I am | 15:35 |
| ogasawara | apw: I need to sync it up again with the latest precise master-next though | 15:35 |
| apw | ogasawara, yeah am starting to wonder if i should be building against it | 15:36 |
| apw | ogasawara, actually that came up recently, should we be uploading that regularly, like we do the pre-proposed heads ? | 15:36 |
| ogasawara | apw: for q? I don't think it's necessary at this point in time | 15:37 |
| ogasawara | apw: for precise master-next maybe | 15:37 |
| apw | ogasawara, yeah we cirtainly can add precise to the mix there, if it is helpful. there is no obvious reason not to | 15:39 |
| apw | now that PPAs work | 15:39 |
| ogasawara | apw: yah, that seems reasonable. I think maybe once we hit kernel freeze for precise, then q would be reasonable to start building etc. | 15:39 |
| * ogasawara back in 20 | 15:41 | |
| cking | tgardner, is that AMD laptop en-route to me now? | 15:43 |
| apw | ogasawara, ok, done, precisise should now be pushed from tommorrow | 15:44 |
| tgardner | cking, yep, went out yesterday afternoon | 15:46 |
| cking | tgardner, thanks! | 15:46 |
| ogasawara | apw: ack, thanks! | 16:01 |
| ogasawara | apw: so for this systemd loginuid patch, did you just see this in passing or is there another source which triggered this investigation, ie a LP bug? | 16:23 |
| apw | ogasawara, i was looking through the patches against fs/proc to see why the poo i pushed yesterday was exploding on you, and that one jumped out at me | 16:24 |
| apw | ogasawara, so no, nothing other than randomly bumping into it, no idea what we even have that set to | 16:25 |
| apw | ogasawara, i assume its an 'affecting Q' think now I think about it | 16:25 |
| ogasawara | apw: I assume it is something we'd want to toggle on, I'd have to double check Q to make sure we did. | 16:25 |
| ogasawara | apw: I'm actually running the Q kernel on my of my machines here | 16:26 |
| ogasawara | config.common.ubuntu:460:CONFIG_AUDIT_LOGINUID_IMMUTABLE=y | 16:26 |
| apw | ogasawara, actually i have no idea what way it needs to be, upstart (i assume) may be compatible with it being systemds way or not | 16:26 |
| apw | ogasawara, so i don't even know it is exposed hrrmmm ... perhaps we should be referring it to jhunt | 16:27 |
| ogasawara | apw: from reading the commit message and Kconfig details, it does say that it should be toggled on for systems which use systemd or similar central process services which I would interpret to be upstart | 16:28 |
| apw | ogasawara, so probabally we just should tell jhunt about it, and possibly security as it only affects what i think of as a security id for yourself | 16:29 |
| ogasawara | apw: yep | 16:29 |
| apw | jjohansen, ^ one for your endless todo list ... this option may affect us in Q | 16:30 |
| brendand | ok, i definitely have a new bug in precise. no matter what i do audio from the browser always comes out of the external speaker. it's verrrry annoying | 16:31 |
| brendand | pacmd list-sink-inputs doesn't list anything when browser audio is playing | 16:34 |
| brendand | hmmm. wonder if it's just chrome | 16:34 |
| brendand | nope | 16:35 |
| brendand | ppisati, does this sound more like what you were seeing? | 16:35 |
| cking | ogasawara, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/Reference/fwts/s3 and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/Reference/fwts/s4 | 16:37 |
| ogasawara | cking: awesome, thank you! | 16:38 |
| cking | and fwts is in universe, so it's all ready to go. | 16:38 |
| ogasawara | cking: sweet | 16:38 |
| ppisati | brendand: nope, for me it was just flash-audio not working | 16:39 |
| brendand | ppisati, sure just flash? i thought it was as well, but noticed while in a g+ hangout that the voice audio was coming through the headset fine (because it's coming from the gtalk plugin) whereas the audio effects in the hangout were coming out of internal | 16:40 |
| ppisati | brendand: yep, it was just flash | 16:41 |
| ppisati | tgardner: you din't get this one - http://static.1wt.eu/img/articles/guruplug-slow-heater/guruplug.jpg - right? | 16:44 |
| smb | jsalisbury_, Maybe that might be interesting de47a4176c532ef5961b8a46a2d541a3517412d3 | 16:44 |
| tgardner | ppisati, nope. gimme a sec | 16:45 |
| tgardner | ppisati, http://www.globalscaletechnologies.com/t-dreamplugdetails.aspx | 16:45 |
| ppisati | tgardner: http://www.globalscaletechnologies.com/t-dreamplugdetails.aspx? | 16:45 |
| ppisati | ok | 16:45 |
| apw | ppisati, which is better :) | 16:45 |
| ppisati | well, the one i posted is a fire hazard | 16:46 |
| ppisati | http://1wt.eu/articles/guruplug-slow-heater/ | 16:46 |
| ppisati | that's why i asked for the fan | 16:46 |
| tgardner | ppisati, one interesting feature of the dreamplug is that it also has wifi built into it and comes up as an AP by default | 16:49 |
| ppisati | tgardner: ah, nice, but for my LAN i opted for this one: http://pcengines.ch/alix2d13.htm | 16:49 |
| brendand | raised: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/pulseaudio/+bug/928980 | 16:50 |
| ubot2 | Launchpad bug 928980 in pulseaudio "Browser generated audio comes out the wrong sink" [Undecided,New] | 16:50 |
| tgardner | ppisati, yeah, I've used a lot of PC Engines boards in another life. | 16:50 |
| brendand | diwic - any idea why this could be happening? | 16:50 |
| brendand | diwic - seems like pulseaudio won't manage the browser audio | 16:51 |
| diwic | brendand, yes. | 16:51 |
| diwic | brendand, if TheMuso does not fix it tonight I'll fix it tomorrow, since it seems to hit a lot of people | 16:52 |
| diwic | brendand, I think the same as pgraner, that it was related to ALSA 1.0.25 | 16:53 |
| ppisati | diwic: does it apply tp flash stuff too? | 16:53 |
| ppisati | ah k, you just answered | 16:53 |
| diwic | ppisati, it applies to anything using the alsa-plugin bridge to pulseaudio | 16:53 |
| diwic | ppisati, which Flash does. As for other apps, it differs. | 16:53 |
| brendand | diwic - i'm guessing it's a duplicated then. do you have a master bug number? | 16:54 |
| diwic | brendand, no, just saw it on the mailinglist. | 16:54 |
| brendand | diwic, ok. thanks! | 16:55 |
| diwic | (and can replicate here, I believe) | 16:55 |
| ohsix | cking: i happened to be running inotifywait -m -r / for something last night and noticed ibus opens and reads an svg every time the focus changes, lots of icons are read all the time and .cache/indicator-applet*.log is written to pretty often, if you're still looking for things that wake up the disk there might be something to see | 17:17 |
| jjohansen | apw: hrm thanks | 17:28 |
| cking | ohsix, can you file a bug and add "Also affects project" to ubuntu-power-consumption - that way it will get some love and attention | 17:31 |
| ohsix | hm maybe, i'm on natty though; don't know how easily i can test the latest versions of things, just thought it was worth mentioning as a source of more data to look at | 17:32 |
| ohsix | plus the .svg reads even if they're redundant should hit the disk cache, unless you're already under memory pressure then it just makes the situation a tinytinytiny bit worse :p | 17:33 |
| cking | ohsix, thanks, lemme put that down on a list of things to eyeball next | 17:38 |
| ohsix | before latencytop got a fancy ui it'd pretty readily tell you about file access | 17:39 |
| bdmurray | apw: what is the status of bug 882147? | 17:39 |
| ubot2 | Launchpad bug 882147 in linux "overlayfs does not implement inotify interfaces correctly" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/882147 | 17:39 |
| cking | yep, some tools just overstep themselves | 17:39 |
| apw | bdmurray, in progress, its not entirly obvious we can fix it at the moment | 17:40 |
| apw | bdmurray, i've tried telling userspace that inotify doesn't work on that filesystem and that just makes it puke errors violently | 17:40 |
| bdmurray | apw: so inotify might not be available then? | 17:40 |
| ohsix | it still says "press F to" check out the file in latencytop (paraphrasing) but it doesn't do anything; they just didn't change the string :P | 17:40 |
| apw | bdmurray, i just don't know at the moment, its much harder than i had hoped thats for sure | 17:41 |
| apw | i am about to start an upstream converation on what the heck we can do | 17:41 |
| bdmurray | apw: okay, I'm really interested in seeing that work | 17:41 |
| apw | bdmurray, yep, and its not clear that the current structure lets that work | 17:42 |
| === jsalisbury_ is now known as jsalisbury | ||
| apw | o | 18:03 |
| apw | ogasawara, ok i've managed to reproduce some kind of panic with the procps changes, though not until i tried to change the options ... it booted just fine for me ... | 18:03 |
| apw | though of course it may depend what you have installed on the system in question | 18:04 |
| ogasawara | apw: I'd tested with the latest precise and what was on master-next | 18:04 |
| apw | ogasawara, yeah, there is definatly somethign screwey, just it didn't reproduce instantly for me, but i am looking at this problem and that may be what you hit | 18:05 |
| ogasawara | apw: ack. let me know if you want me to help test anything. | 18:05 |
| apw | ogasawara, so once i've fixed it i'll get you to retest :) | 18:05 |
| * ogasawara nods | 18:05 | |
| * ogasawara back in 10 | 18:06 | |
| apw | ogasawara, ahh this is completley broken, and only luck lets me boot if anyone looks in /proc/mounts | 18:07 |
| apw | ogasawara, ok sorted i think, i've now pushed out some replacement patches fixing the issue i think you were seeing | 18:32 |
| ogasawara | apw: cool, I'll pull and test | 18:32 |
| apw | ogasawara, basically any boot was a random tossup, so your positive testing was just as much luck as mine | 18:32 |
| apw | ogasawara, a change of parameters to the show_options superblock options | 18:33 |
| * tgardner -> lunch | 18:34 | |
| * cking -> EOD | 19:12 | |
| * tgardner relocates | 19:16 | |
| === tgardner is now known as tgardner-afk | ||
| bjf | bdmurray: you see any recent breakage wi LP api? on Precise, task.date_created seems to be returning 'unicode' object instead of 'datetime' object | 19:17 |
| bjf | bdmurray: doesn't have to be LP api. there are several places it could be broken | 19:17 |
| bdmurray | bjf: haven't noticed | 19:18 |
| bjf | bdmurray: i don't run LP scripts on precise very often so I'd not seen it | 19:18 |
| bdmurray | bjf: just tested and yeah it looks like unicode | 19:19 |
| * bdmurray cries a little | 19:19 | |
| ogasawara | apw: test machine boots fine with the latest set of patches (have done 3 reboots so far, all successful) | 19:20 |
| apw | ogasawara, sounds good, it was an obvious flaw when i found it | 19:21 |
| ogasawara | apw: how urgently do we need these to go up, do we need an upload today or can I wait till tomorrow/fri? | 19:22 |
| apw | ogasawara, no urgency really, we need them so security can test whether they are enough of a fix, but they arn't going to get to that in short order, and if they do, well they can make their own | 19:23 |
| apw | ogasawara, just wanted them on their way | 19:24 |
| ogasawara | apw: ack | 19:24 |
| apw | tgardner-afk, just found a new shortcut in unity launcher (not listed on the help) super-tab, does alt-style round your launchapplication | 19:25 |
| apw | bjf, jsalisbury, i note that the meeting summary that got sent out this time is missing the links i put in ... am i doing them in the wrong format ? | 19:29 |
| jsalisbury | apw, hmm. Let me take a look. | 19:30 |
| jsalisbury | apw, your format during the meeting is ok. I must have improperly formatted the moin file. | 19:32 |
| apw | jsalisbury, well i'd not sweat about sending out another version or anyting, just see if we can figure out what occurs for next time | 19:43 |
| jsalisbury | apw, sure thing. I'll be sure it's fixed for next meeting. The script to generate the moin file stripped the links, but I'll fix it. | 19:44 |
| * apw calls it a day ... have fun | 19:59 | |
| scientes | http://paste.ubuntu.com/834410/ | 20:22 |
| scientes | ^^^^^ | 20:22 |
| scientes | make-kpkg broken? | 20:23 |
| vanhoof | apw: super + ` was a cool find for me :) | 20:23 |
| scientes | or does it not work with mainline sources? | 20:23 |
| vanhoof | apw: same w/ apt + ` | 20:23 |
| vanhoof | er alt | 20:23 |
| scientes | this is holding up my work, can someone look at how make-kpkg is not working? | 20:25 |
| scientes | hmm, this time it seemed to work, i guess nvm | 20:32 |
| apw | vanhoof, what does super+` do for you, doesn't seem to be a key binding here ? | 23:31 |
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