[00:04] Beginners Team Meeeting o/ [00:04] \o [00:04] \o [00:05] o/ [00:05] #startmeeting [00:05] Meeting started Wed Feb 8 00:05:48 2012 UTC. The chair is duanedesign. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology. [00:05] Available commands: #accept #accepted #action #agree #agreed #chair #commands #endmeeting #endvote #halp #help #idea #info #link #lurk #meetingname #meetingtopic #nick #progress #rejected #replay #restrictlogs #save #startmeeting #subtopic #topic #unchair #undo #unlurk #vote #voters #votesrequired [00:06] so, we're only 4 here [00:06] yap [00:07] #meetingtopic Beginners Team February Meeting === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-meeting to: Ubuntu Meeting Grounds | Calendar/Scheduled meetings: http://fridge.ubuntu.com/calendar | Logs: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MeetingLogs | Meetingology documentation: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology | Beginners Team February Meeting Meeting | Current topic: [00:08] so, what are we going to discuss today? [00:08] I wanted to talk about the mentor/guides/student [00:09] +1 [00:09] and how we guide new people who come into the channel or email us after they find our wiki [00:09] maybe having a welcome page for beginners [00:10] wiki page is enough I think [00:10] for welcome [00:10] +1 [00:10] a wiki page where we say hello, and specify what can people do for support, or for community collaboration [00:10] #topic Guiding Ubuntu Users New to the Community === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-meeting to: Ubuntu Meeting Grounds | Calendar/Scheduled meetings: http://fridge.ubuntu.com/calendar | Logs: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MeetingLogs | Meetingology documentation: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology | Beginners Team February Meeting Meeting | Current topic: Guiding Ubuntu Users New to the Community [00:11] We have, and many team, tried the 1 mentor 1 apprentice thing [00:11] wherre someone signs a waiting list and waits to be assigned or picked up by a mentor [00:12] it is very hard to keep up with [00:12] that's a good idea, but, as you said, we would need a lot of people [00:12] hum [00:12] The Bug Squad has been using their Mailing List more extensively [00:12] But this is our problem [00:12] That way users do not have to wait [00:13] people [00:13] waiting list is a pretty good idea, but it would need to be managed in a different way [00:13] so we don't have that big problem [00:14] The problem has been not enough mentors [00:14] exactly [00:14] +1 JoseeAntonioR [00:15] people are 50/50 satisfied with LP answers, but they complain about not getting an instant answer [00:15] and sometimes, it's something they could have found out just by searching [00:15] The Bug Squad during the Natty cycle started https://launchpad.net/~bugsquad-mentorship-group-alpha [00:16] yes this is why we are here [00:16] yo give support to the new [00:17] the idea behind what the Bug Squad did was to have a handful of mentors help a larger group of apprentices [00:17] something like 1 mentor with 3 or 5 apprentices? [00:17] So wee need mentor [00:18] I think this is a good idea. Instead of having one mentor one apprentice [00:18] JoseeAntonioR: right [00:18] +1 [00:18] if we start something like that, we need something like a schedule [00:19] Like [00:19] I think we could use the team mailing list and everyone pitches in to help answer quesations for those people looking to get started in the community [00:19] When which mentor will be present? [00:20] I have noticed something [00:20] i think we could be informal. Everyone help out when they can. [00:20] Hopefully we would all try and check the list regularly [00:20] It is our regular task [00:20] when people is redirected to the IRC, they normally enter the #ubuntu channel, and they ask very basic questions [00:20] But there is hardly mail in the list [00:21] it would be good if someone who is usually in the channel redirects that person to #ubuntu-beginners [00:21] another issue with the current list is people feel like they can not get started working in the community until they get a mentor [00:22] one thing we can do [00:22] JoseeAntonioR: They can get help both places, and there are more to help in #u [00:22] duanedesign that's what I felt last year, as I didn't know where to start [00:22] we can divert people from #ubuntu to here [00:22] duanedesign: Zone defence style [00:23] exactly, ashickur-noor [00:24] I do not like the idea of redirecting people from another channel [00:24] I proposed it #u is too busy [00:24] The type of help we would be giving on the mamiling list would be people interested in getting involved in the community. [00:25] even I don't like to there to take help [00:25] unless there is some one here [00:25] ashickur-noor: when you ask a question it is off the screen in a couple seconds [00:25] As far as #u goes, they have a lot more people supporting, how many times have you seen a question go unanswered? [00:25] One thing we can do [00:25] duanedesign maybe giving them an introduction to LP [00:26] for me some times [00:26] Unit193 is right. 80% of the time the question is answered. [00:26] JoseeAntonioR: that would be good tool for people to learn early on [00:26] JoseeAntonioR: under 'Guides' https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BeginnersTeam/Mentors [00:26] we can do one more thing [00:26] JoseeAntonioR: we have a few things for people new to the community to do [00:26] promote this team [00:26] And how many times have you seen #u-b go unanswered? [00:27] Unit193 I have never seen. [00:27] I have many times [00:27] My experience is same as Unit193 [00:28] in @ubt [00:28] *#ubt [00:28] And Team channel isn't exactly for support [00:28] it for discussion [00:29] duanedesign we might put some guides in the wiki, like introduction to lp, how to report bugs, how to answer questions, some tips, irc helping, etc [00:29] +1 [00:29] JoseeAntonioR: we had a 'sign post' page at one time [00:29] because those pages exist elsewhere on the wiki we just need to find them and link to them [00:30] I would like each Focus Group Page to have a few steps to get people started [00:30] duanedesign and maybe link the UBT wiki page in the membership page, so people can know where to find some guiding [00:32] if you look at the User Support page it has where users can give support and some resources to help them give support https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BeginnersTeam/FocusGroups/Support [00:33] The bugs page a better 'roadmap' under Current Tasks https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BeginnersTeam/FocusGroups/Bugs [00:33] duanedesign: So you want to move this to group but on the mailing list? [00:33] that way people can help themselves as much as possible :) [00:33] :-) [00:34] Unit193: move what? [00:34] Currently I see the focus mainly in IRC [00:34] ahh, right [00:36] When people join the Beginners Team and want to get started helping other users I just want to make sure we are doing a good job of getting them started [00:37] so, new users would have to introduce theirselves in the mailing list? [00:37] My thought was that the guide mentor list is not working very well. [00:37] Good idea [00:37] Alright, I'm not saying I'd be agenst doing the mailing list style, just I'm not a mailing list sender [00:37] :) [00:38] I think IRC is optimal if people are present to help [00:38] Hum [00:38] but we always had mentors as the safety net. [00:38] Also, I noticed #ub gets some people after being banned (for a reason!) from #u [00:38] list is also good [00:39] if you couldnt reach someone to answer your question you had a mentor who volunteeres to help you. I think the mailing List could be that 'safety net'/ [00:39] +1 duanedesign [00:39] I think that's great [00:40] I would agree that is a good idea [00:41] ok, i will write an email to send to the mailing list to get feedback from the rest of the team [00:41] anyone elsse have anything?> [00:42] nope [00:42] erm, I think I have something [00:43] #action duanedesign is going to email the ML to get further team feedback on tweaking the mentor program. [00:43] ACTION: duanedesign is going to email the ML to get further team feedback on tweaking the mentor program. [00:43] JoseeAntonioR: what was on your mind? [00:44] I'm trying to explain it :S [00:44] how do we get beginners to contact us? because afaik we aren't on the docs [00:45] Is us, the team [00:45] or us, individual members? [00:45] the team [00:45] yes it is a question [00:46] I mean, I don't see many beginners entering the IRC channel, I only see 3 or 4 a week [00:46] i think most people stumble on the wiki [00:46] or the IRC channel [00:46] every one does not know that there is ubt [00:46] ashickur-noor, that's my point [00:47] What I say before [00:47] We have to promote our team [00:47] yes [00:48] by social media [00:48] last year we were working on reaching out to other teams [00:48] by other list [00:48] other team [00:49] from forums [00:49] Yes, but advertising in #u is agenst policy, and we need to get good, dedicated mentors first [00:49] if we don't promote [00:50] then new will know about us [00:50] about Ubuntu [00:50] Ok. So first of all, let's tweak the mentorship system, so we can promote afterwards [00:50] Sounds like good [00:52] #action brainstorm on ways to reach new users looking to get involved in the coomunity [00:52] ACTION: brainstorm on ways to reach new users looking to get involved in the coomunity [00:52] hows that :) [00:52] great [00:53] thanks JoseeAntonioR [00:53] :) [00:53] thanks Unit193 [00:53] As hobgoblin keeps saying, we need to get shorter /topics as people don't read them, and that may get a few more doing it [00:53] duanedesign: I didn't do much [00:53] thanks ashickur-noor [00:54] yes, before we end, wha Unit193 said [00:54] Unit193: our topics in the IRC chabbels? [00:54] ugh [00:54] it's my pleasure [00:54] duanedesign: Yes sir [00:54] channels* [00:54] Unit193: good idea [00:54] I can talk after meeting, nothing really needed in here [00:55] ok :) [00:55] if nothing else? [00:55] I will update the team report [00:55] ahh cool [00:55] some one update the meeting log and next meeting [00:55] yep [00:56] I'll update the wiki [00:56] short list of after meeting items on the /meeting wiki page [00:56] #endmeeting === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-meeting to: Ubuntu Meeting Grounds | Calendar/Scheduled meetings: http://fridge.ubuntu.com/calendar | Logs: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MeetingLogs | Meetingology documentation: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology [00:56] Meeting ended Wed Feb 8 00:56:34 2012 UTC. 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[16:02] #startmeeting [16:02] Meeting started Wed Feb 8 16:02:31 2012 UTC. The chair is slangasek. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology. [16:02] Available commands: #accept #accepted #action #agree #agreed #chair #commands #endmeeting #endvote #halp #help #idea #info #link #lurk #meetingname #meetingtopic #nick #progress #rejected #replay #restrictlogs #save #startmeeting #subtopic #topic #unchair #undo #unlurk #vote #voters #votesrequired [16:02] doko: no, it's the usual time ; [16:02] ) [16:02] heh [16:03] [TOPIC] Lightning round === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-meeting to: Lightning round [16:03] $ echo $(shuf -e barry doko stgraber jhunt_ ev bdmurray slangasek) [16:03] jhunt_ ev doko bdmurray slangasek stgraber barry [16:03] no cjwatson today, per his mail [16:03] Working on bug 922754 - jason and myself both independently found the [16:03] same bug in openssh! :-) Reworking code to take account of such 'unusually [16:03] behaved apps'. Started to look at stgrabers upstart-containers MP. [16:03] ⏏ [16:03] Launchpad bug 922754 in upstart "booting without --no-log causes init and plymouth-upstart-bridge to spin at 100%" [High,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/922754 [16:04] * jhunt_ now using erc :) [16:04] - Summary email to Rick on the Open Invention Network meeting I attended at [16:04] his request last week. [16:04] - Verifying that Wubi 11.10 is not affected by the recent download fallback [16:04] bug, as expected. [16:04] - Merging Loic's Automake fixes for libtimezonemap. [16:04] - Wired the DBus preferences to the configuration file and vice versa in the [16:04] preferences dialog backend. [16:04] - Added PolicyKit wrapping to the preferences dialog backend methods. [16:04] jhunt_: rock! [16:04] - Wired the checkboxes to DBus calls in the preferences page. [16:04] - Set up DBus service activation for the preferences page backend. [16:04] - Shut down the preferences page backend 60 seconds after the last call. [16:04] - Fixed some bugs in the preferences page backend. [16:04] - Uploaded a new whoopsie (0.1.5) with the completed preferences page. [16:04] - Initial remodeling of the apport crash dialog in support of the new crash [16:04] database. [16:04] - Show the icons of the application with a bottom right error icon overlay, [16:04] rather than just a generic error icon in the apport crash dialog. [16:04] - Sorted travel for Strata. [16:05] - Move obtaining the report information into a thread that's either called [16:05] when the user presses the Show Details button or when they choose to report [16:05] the bug, as discussed previously with Matthew and Martin. [16:05] - Handle the different types of bug reports having slightly different UI in [16:05] the apport crash dialog. [16:05] - Wire up the crash counter field to the ignore future problems checkbox. [16:05] - Fixed a few bugs in the new apport UI. [16:05] - Built and uploaded a new Wubi for 10.04.4. [16:05] - Found out from Matthew that GNOME has gone ahead and created their own page [16:05] called Privacy in the Control Center. I'll have to rework the code as a [16:05] patch that adds a Diagnostics tab. :( [16:05] - Blacklist the report if the user checked the ignore future problems [16:05] checkbox. [16:05] - Better handling of calling into collect_info, as was the case previously, [16:05] complete with error handling UI in threads. [16:05] - Handle the administrator disabling crash reporting. [16:05] - Actually notify the crash reporting daemon that there's a new crash to [16:05] upload. [16:05] - Started work on the KDE side of the apport changes. [16:05] (done) [16:05] - openjdk-6 and icedtea-web builds [16:05] - fosdem (best news is that RedHat announced their openjdk ARM build does pass the TCK) [16:05] - now at Linaro Connect [16:05] - will upload eglibc-2.15 today [16:06] ... if nobody intervenes [16:06] done [16:06] (was actually Canonical, not GNOME) [16:06] bug triage of ubiquity bug reports [16:06] updated ubiquity apport source package hook to include installer command line [16:06] iso-testing bug triage [16:06] review of merge proposals from Vadim Rutkovsky [16:06] testing ubiquity bug 924836 regarding ifupdown and plymouth [16:06] testing ubiquity bug 902479 regarding details (dupe searching) [16:06] testing ubiquity bug 645449 and finding duplicates of it [16:06] Launchpad bug 924836 in resolvconf (Ubuntu Precise) "network-manager does not tell plymouth it has started" [High,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/924836 [16:06] Launchpad bug 830946 in ubiquity (Ubuntu Precise) "duplicate for #902479 Nothing displayed on embedded terminal." [Medium,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/830946 [16:06] Launchpad bug 645449 in ubiquity (Ubuntu Precise) "Ubiquity hangs at Keyboard layout if you use keyboard to navigate / select" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/645449 [16:06] searched for DBus.Error.NoReply bug reports [16:06] added screenlog.0 log file to precise update-manager apport hook [16:06] debugging of collect bug data for arsenal reports [16:06] tested apt-clone and dist-upgrade of lucid to precise (bug 927993) [16:06] Launchpad bug 927993 in apt (Ubuntu Precise) "distribution upgrade from lucid to precise failed with : package dpkg is already installed and configured" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/927993 [16:06] apport branch not to remove dependencies.txt from duplicates [16:06] updated meta-release files on changelogs.ubuntu.com to show 12.04 LTS [16:07] ⁂ [16:08] * alpha-2 out the door [16:08] * interviewing [16:08] * nothing much else to report [16:08] * I'll be off Monday [16:08] ə [16:08] - Testing tracker [16:08] - Help with Alpha 2 preparation [16:08] - Wrote an initial to generate a list of releasable images from the tracker based on testing coverage [16:08] - Networking [16:08] - Some more work on resolvconf, reverting the init script change that was done last week and usnig a relative symlink for /etc/resolv.conf instead [16:08] - Merged some fixes into netcfg, fixed it to deal properly with reoslvconf and fixed another small DHCPv6 issue. [16:08] - Got daily d-i IPv6 testing running, just need to have the results pushed somewhere now [16:09] - Follow-up on SRUs for ifupdown, ifenslave-2.6, vlan, bridge-utils. TREllis should have test results soon that will let us move all that to -updates (if succesful) [16:09] - LTSP [16:09] - Started preparing the LTSP upload for Precise, there are a lot of upstream changes, so currently testing in a PPA with a few LTSP developers (yeah, you, alkisg ;)) [16:09] - Reworked LTSP-Live, just need to do some more testing on it and that'll be on less WI :) [16:09] - Containers [16:09] - Updated upstart branch a bit, still pending review, hopefully this week. [16:09] - Got LXC to build armel and armhf containers on x86! http://www.stgraber.org/2012/02/03/ever-wanted-an-armel-or-armhf-container-on-an-x86-machine-its-now-possible-with-lxc-in-ubuntu-precise/ [16:09] - Started looking at ways to allow for clean upgrades and dist-upgrades of running containers [16:09] - TPM [16:09] - tpm-tools is back in Ubuntu! [16:09] - Now to do a few tests and documment that stuff (post-FF probably) [16:09] - TODO [16:09] - Trying to get as much as possible done before Feature Freeze, thankfully quite a few work items can be done after it. [16:09] (done) [16:09] *wrote an initial script [16:10] armel containers on x86 - freaky stuff : [16:10] ) [16:10] stgraber: do you have tpm-tools working on your system now? [16:11] slangasek: I have it installed, not quite working yet but I need to try with a clean TPM and David's instructions [16:11] * slangasek nods [16:12] barry: [16:12] prepared and conducted udd class for udw; updated udd online docs. long discussions on various python security issues. python3-pyqt4-dbus review. DM application. helped out oem and other internal devs on some packaging issues. updated patch for wadllib+python3 submitted to debian. wrote up debian python packaging style guide proposal: . todo: gearing up for stable+1 maintenance work this month; [16:12] coordinate w/pitti and SpamapS. off on friday. ⊗ [16:13] barry: has your DM application been approved? (For some reason that's set up to where everybody can see the application, and then no one knows when it's accepted...) [16:14] slangasek: i honestly don't know. the docs say "wait a while" so i'm waiting for confirmation [16:14] k :) [16:14] ;) [16:15] [TOPIC] FF === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-meeting to: FF [16:15] * ev runs away screaming [16:16] I'm told Feature Freeze is happening next Thursday :) [16:16] so don't get caught holding a feature on Thursday, or it'll freeze to your skin and have to be surgically removed [16:16] does our health insurance policy cover that? [16:16] ev: not in the usa [16:16] ;) [16:17] if there are any features you're concerned about not having done before FF, talk to me (and the release team) *now*, don't wait 'til next Thursday [16:18] I'm still toying with making ruby1.9 the default, have to talk with lucas [16:19] doko: there was some discussion yesterday in #u-devel about numpy 1.6. any thoughts on that? [16:19] (jtaylor is interested in that) [16:19] jtaylor, I don't see a reason not to do that. so if you have packages for numpy, scipy, and maybe others, let me know [16:20] doko: is that something you'll coordinate with the server team as well? Ruby is in main to support their apps specifically [16:20] doko: fantastic, thanks [16:20] slangasek, ok will pester Daviey [16:21] [TOPIC] Bugs === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-meeting to: Bugs [16:22] bdmurray: have we found all the bugs now, or are there still new ones? [16:22] slangasek: I'm pretty sure there are still some new ones [16:23] Oh, actually I found a funny one yesterday 928447 [16:23] bug 928447 [16:23] Launchpad bug 928447 in ubiquity (Ubuntu) "possible to use a number for your computer's name" [Medium,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/928447 [16:24] heh [16:24] seriously though - ev any progress with a wubi 247 for oneiric? [16:25] also bug 920479 has been around for some time [16:25] Launchpad bug 920479 in pitivi (Ubuntu) "pitivi don't start" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/920479 [16:25] bdmurray: I tried to reproduce this issue with the wubi installer from ubuntu.com attempting to use the development release payload, but it did not [16:25] er 902479 [16:26] bdmurray: yeah, I guess that's because of an older RFC stating an hostname can't start by a digit and some software still expect that to be true [16:26] ev: so what needs to happen next [16:27] well, I fixed bug 924752 for precise [16:27] Launchpad bug 924752 in Wubi "wubi r255 - Ubuntu Desktop failed to install from disk image - wrong download url" [Critical,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/924752 [16:27] I'm not convinced the "if I copy this off the cd and try to run it from the desktop" is really a bug [16:28] right but what I did is download from ubuntu.com and it tried to install the development. I'll test it again though just to be really sure. [16:28] stgraber: even in the current RFCs, hostnames aren't allowed to consist entirely of numbers [16:28] bdmurray: please do [16:28] if you can reliably reproduce it, I'd like to see some logs from that attempt [16:28] regarding numbers as hostnames was that it won't let you until you type in a password [16:29] ev: and is there a debug switch for wubi? [16:29] make sure you're getting it from the page off of ubuntu.com [16:29] bdmurray: nope, it dumps its brain to %TEMP% [16:29] with debug logging the default [16:30] okay [16:30] bug 902479 [16:30] Launchpad bug 830946 in ubiquity (Ubuntu Precise) "duplicate for #902479 Nothing displayed on embedded terminal." [Medium,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/830946 [16:31] its not a huge deal but rather ugly [16:31] ask me about that one when we're deep in bug fixing mode :) [16:32] ev: should we assign it to you in the meantime? :) [16:32] slangasek: do you know which RFC(s)? 952 is not particularly clear on the "just a number" bit as the "can't start by a digit" was taking care of that case, then 1123 says that the "can't start by a digit" bit is dropped [16:33] slangasek: you can assign to me as many bugs as you'd like, now the milestone field on the other hand... ;) [16:33] s/,/./ [16:33] heh [16:33] go ahead, but I promise not to touch it until we're past UI freeze [16:33] stgraber: not offhand; but I'm sure that a hostname consisting entirely of numbers is still prohibited, and is routinely interpreted as a decimal encoding of an IP [16:34] bdmurray: any other bugs? [16:34] yes bug 876298 seems to have come up again as there are some issues installing flashplugin [16:34] Launchpad bug 876298 in update-manager (Ubuntu) "[MASTER] We need to better handle external payloads (Flash, msttcorefonts) not being available." [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/876298 [16:35] * doko is changing rooms, plenaries start at 8:30 at Linaro :-/ [16:35] * slangasek waves to doko [16:35] some installs are failing to resolve archive.canonical.com to get flash and then the install crashes [16:35] stgraber and I talked about the name resolution failure which is a separate issue [16:36] it just seems to me that fixing 876298 would help more people install [16:37] barry: that one's assigned to you; have you had a chance to look into it at all? [16:37] slangasek: i haven't but i will [16:37] slangasek: right, the closest thing I found is in the DNS RFC (1912) which clearly states that a label can't be a number, though that's specifically for DNS records. Anyway, enough digging in RFCs for the day ;) [16:38] barry: ok, thanks [16:38] I also want to remind folks about http://reports.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/kernel-bugs/reports/rls-p-tracking-bugs.html [16:38] additionally would fixing hat help with bug 922949? [16:38] Launchpad bug 922949 in ubiquity (Ubuntu) "installer crashed due to a corrupted package" [Medium,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/922949 [16:39] this has the list of bugs that we really really need to fix for release... and the numbers aren't going down very quickly :( [16:40] some of them are targeted to beta-1 and are on track... but we probably shouldn't leave the rest to the end of the cycle, lest they fail to make the cut [16:41] [TOPIC] AOB === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-meeting to: AOB [16:41] anything else? [16:42] #endmeeting === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-meeting to: Ubuntu Meeting Grounds | Calendar/Scheduled meetings: http://fridge.ubuntu.com/calendar | Logs: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MeetingLogs | Meetingology documentation: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology [16:42] Meeting ended Wed Feb 8 16:42:33 2012 UTC. [16:42] Minutes (wiki): http://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-meeting/2012/ubuntu-meeting.2012-02-08-16.02.moin.txt [16:42] Minutes (html): http://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-meeting/2012/ubuntu-meeting.2012-02-08-16.02.html [16:42] thanks, guys! [16:42] thanks! [16:42] thanks! [16:42] thanks! === Ursinha-lunch is now known as Ursinha [17:01] hello everytime.. time for the weeekly qa meeting [17:02] #startmeeting [17:02] Meeting started Wed Feb 8 17:02:01 2012 UTC. The chair is balloons. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology. [17:02] Available commands: #accept #accepted #action #agree #agreed #chair #commands #endmeeting #endvote #halp #help #idea #info #link #lurk #meetingname #meetingtopic #nick #progress #rejected #replay #restrictlogs #save #startmeeting #subtopic #topic #unchair #undo #unlurk #vote #voters #votesrequired [17:02] We have a short agenda for today.. Can I get a roll call of who all is here quickly? [17:02] o/ [17:03] AGENDA: [17:03] Previous Actions [17:03] ACTION: :alourie to feature AutomatedTesting wiki page prominently in wiki, based upon list discussion (balloons, 17:19:45) [17:03] Ubuntu Flavor Updates [17:03] Other topics [17:03] hi astraljava [17:03] Hey there. [17:03] just you, me and the idlers [17:03] :-) [17:03] Looks that way. :) [17:04] [TOPIC] Previous Actions === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-meeting to: Previous Actions [17:05] hello phillw [17:05] ok,the only outstanding action is one carried over for alourie.. [17:05] hi balloons sorry I'm late - just put new O/S on. [17:06] no worries phillw.. glad you could make it :-) [17:07] So, I'm not going to renew the action. alourie's scheduled shifted I believe, and he is unable to attend these meeting atm. However, the wiki still does need updating a bit. Any volunteers to 'feature the automatedtesting wiki page prominently"? [17:07] * phillw will do it. [17:08]