| pukeko | hi there.. i have a Gbit rated lan, and am getting speed readings of approx 260mbits from XP clients when connecting to a local samba server ( at non peak time ) is this too low ? | 00:15 |
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| qman___ | pukeko, bitrate and throughput are two very different things | 00:19 |
| qman___ | mediocre desktop computers can only transfer files in the 35-50MB/s range, older poorer performing ones lower | 00:20 |
| qman___ | in ideal conditions, a windows vista/7 computer with a multi disk raid 0 can achieve 80MB/s from a linux samba server | 00:20 |
| qman___ | the server must also have a multi disk raid to keep up with those numbers | 00:21 |
| hallyn | utlemming: smoser: stgraber: I may push http://people.canonical.com/~serge/lxc.debdiff tonight. | 00:23 |
| pukeko | if i perform the same test (iperf) from another linux box im getting approx 700mbits -- am wondering if its the SMB 1.0 overhead .. | 00:24 |
| hallyn | (leaving tests running as i get some dinner) | 00:25 |
| stgraber | hallyn: "++ echo "Please login as Ubuntu." => shouldn't it be "ubuntu"? | 00:27 |
| hallyn | stgraber: I figured utlemming meant user Ubuntu | 00:27 |
| pukeko | should i set the Tcp Window to the same on the XP and the Linux ..? | 00:27 |
| hallyn | i.e., username | 00:27 |
| hallyn | i'll change it. should i list the pwd too? | 00:27 |
| utlemming | hallyn: yup | 00:28 |
| stgraber | probably a good idea yeah | 00:28 |
| pukeko | if i do that i get around 700mbits also | 00:28 |
| stgraber | hallyn: I'm guessing this won't work until we have the new upstart though right? | 00:28 |
| hallyn | works fine :) | 00:28 |
| hallyn | the cloud images have lxcguest built in | 00:28 |
| stgraber | ah ok, so we'll break them when we remove lxcguest, good to know ;) | 00:29 |
| hallyn | in fact we'll have to think whether new upstart will cause it problems | 00:29 |
| hallyn | yeah | 00:29 |
| hallyn | i dno't know if automated cloud image generation will break, or just say "<shrug> no lxcguest, s'coo" | 00:30 |
| hallyn | utlemming: ^ | 00:30 |
| utlemming | hallyn: I'm not sure I follow the concern | 00:31 |
| hallyn | utlemming: pretty soon lxcguest will be removed from precise | 00:31 |
| stgraber | utlemming: the lxcguest package won't exist anymore next week (hopefully) | 00:31 |
| utlemming | ah....that's not a problem | 00:32 |
| hallyn | sweet | 00:32 |
| utlemming | the package is being installed via the server^ pattern | 00:32 |
| utlemming | we are not explicitly installing it | 00:32 |
| hallyn | i don't know what that is | 00:32 |
| utlemming | apt package group | 00:32 |
| hallyn | ok, sweet. thx. | 00:33 |
| stgraber | oh, which means that lxc will be automatically moved back to universe once lxcguest is dropped | 00:33 |
| stgraber | because currently the source and lxcguest are in main as lxcguest is in a server seed | 00:33 |
| stgraber | when that's no longer the case, it'll be fully moved back to universe and so anyone who's MOTU will have upload rights again | 00:34 |
| hallyn | are we ok with that, or do we beg for MIR for lxc? | 00:34 |
| stgraber | I think it'd make sense to have lxc at least be in the supported seed but that'll require an MIR | 00:36 |
| stgraber | I mean, we kind of hope people are going to use it in 12.04 otherwise we wouldn't put that much effort into it, so then I think it makes sense to have it as part of the LTS | 00:37 |
| hallyn | out for dinner, bbl | 00:39 |
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| hallyn | stgraber: tests all pass. did you ahve any more comments, or shoudl i push? | 01:26 |
| stgraber | hallyn: nope, that was the only thing I noticed | 01:26 |
| hallyn | ok thx | 01:26 |
| === sixstringsg is now known as sixstringsg|away | ||
| EvilResistance | anyone able to guide me through this? http://askubuntu.com/questions/102381/configuring-ubuntu-server-to-act-as-a-gateway-similar-to-a-router | 01:36 |
| qman___ | EvilResistance, assuming you have both interfaces configured already, eth0 is internet, eth1 is LAN, `echo 1 > sudo tee /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward; sudo iptables -t nat -A POSTROUTING -o eth0 -j MASQUERADE; sudo iptables -A FORWARD -i eth0 -o eth1 -m state --state RELATED,ESTABLISHED -j ACCEPT; sudo iptables -A FORWARD -i eth1 -o eth0 -j ACCEPT` | 01:41 |
| EvilResistance | qman___, the configuration of eth1 is the main issue i'm having, it doesnt want to work :P | 01:42 |
| qman___ | that is doing it live, to have said configuration automatic at boot requires a few config file changes | 01:42 |
| qman___ | you'll have to be more specific | 01:43 |
| qman___ | "it doesn't work" isn't enough to go on | 01:43 |
| EvilResistance | qman___, system isnt detecting the second networking card :P | 01:43 |
| EvilResistance | at least... | 01:43 |
| qman___ | well, that's a hardware problem then | 01:43 |
| EvilResistance | not within networking... lspci has it, but its not being confiugred as an interface | 01:43 |
| * EvilResistance agrees | 01:43 | |
| EvilResistance | qman___, alternatively, other question I had is related: | 01:43 |
| EvilResistance | how can i set up just the LAN part | 01:43 |
| mgw | any cobbler experts know what causes this on a cobbler replicate: Exception value: 'cobbler trigger failed: cobbler.modules.sync_post_restart_services' | 01:43 |
| qman___ | ? | 01:44 |
| EvilResistance | qman___, that is to say, configure the box as a LAN controller, without having external gateway access | 01:44 |
| EvilResistance | and also, to provide IPs to each machine (also unconfigured on this box) | 01:44 |
| qman___ | there's nothing to control | 01:44 |
| qman___ | give it an IP | 01:44 |
| qman___ | oh, you want to provide DHCP, you need a dhcp server | 01:44 |
| EvilResistance | mhm | 01:44 |
| EvilResistance | consider this is going to work with 45 systems, i dont want to be setting 45 IPs by hand :p | 01:45 |
| qman___ | apt-get install dhcp3-server, or apt-get install dnsmasq | 01:46 |
| qman___ | dnsmasq has the main benefit of also including DNS caching and automatic local DNS | 01:46 |
| EvilResistance | thanks. | 01:47 |
| qman___ | for future reference, if you know what you need, but not which package to install, you can use 'apt-cache search x' to try and find it | 01:49 |
| qman___ | among a larger list of things, 'apt-cache search dhcp server' returned both of the above results | 01:49 |
| EvilResistance | i see | 01:49 |
| Patrickdk | apt-cache search what I need | 01:49 |
| EvilResistance | qman___, last question, assigning an IP to the box itself for the LAN. Can either dhcp3-server or dnsmasq do this automatically and give it, say, 192.168.1.1? or does that get set up statically separate from the configuration of dnsmasq | 01:50 |
| qman___ | your dhcp server must have a statically configured interface | 01:51 |
| qman___ | actually that's not strictly true, in some rare instances | 01:53 |
| qman___ | but for your purposes, and most all purposes, the DHCP server needs to already have a statically configured LAN interface in /etc/network/interfaces | 01:53 |
| qman___ | the default gateway must always have a static IP | 01:54 |
| EvilResistance | indeed. i assume i can configure the thing to hand out IPs from the 10.0.0.0/8 range, rather than 192.168.1.1? | 01:56 |
| EvilResistance | s/192.168.1.1/192.168.0.0\/16/ | 01:56 |
| qman___ | yes, you can use any range you want, though you should pick ranges in the designated private address spaces | 01:57 |
| EvilResistance | 10.0.0.0/8 is defined in the RFCs to be private-use if i'm not mistaken... | 01:58 |
| qman___ | yes, it is | 01:58 |
| twb | 192.168/16, 10/8 and 172.16/12 | 02:00 |
| twb | Also 169.something is reserved for the .local mDNS/DNSSD pseudodomain | 02:00 |
| qman___ | 169.254/16 | 02:01 |
| qman___ | for APIPA | 02:01 |
| twb | avahi and all its friends need to FOAD tho | 02:02 |
| EvilResistance | alrighty, i'm going to go take a stab at this, i shall return and let you know of the results | 02:19 |
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| EvilResistance | qman___: i've installed dnsmasq, and it is running. I've followed (as far as I can tell) the correct configuration modification to enable the integrated DHCP server, and assign from a range of 45 IPs in the 10.0.0.0/8 area, with a 12 hour lease: dhcp-range=10.0.0.5,10.0.0.50,12h. I hook up one of the machines that i'm trying to get to work on this, and it doesnt receive an IP at all | 02:57 |
| qman___ | EvilResistance, requisites: the server's interface must be up and configured, dnsmasq must have been restarted since the configuration change | 02:59 |
| EvilResistance | one second, *fixes something unrelated* | 02:59 |
| Resistance | okay, so now my system died >.> figures. | 03:05 |
| Resistance | ANYWAYS i've put this into /etc/network/interfaces, i'm not even sure this is correct for what needs to be configured: http://pastebin.com/BS7umd1q | 03:06 |
| qman___ | that is not correct | 03:08 |
| qman___ | gateway cannot be itself | 03:08 |
| qman___ | you can omit a gateway if there is none | 03:08 |
| Resistance | that's what i wasnt sure about :P | 03:09 |
| Resistance | and still nothing :/ | 03:10 |
| Resistance | of course, network manager on the system connecting to the DHCP thing doesnt give me detailed information at *all* | 03:12 |
| qman___ | well, the mere presence of network manager can break everything | 03:14 |
| qman___ | I assumed you were using a server | 03:14 |
| qman___ | to eliminate network manager as the problem, 'sudo service network-manager stop' | 03:14 |
| qman___ | other thing to check is the logs | 03:14 |
| Resistance | i am | 03:15 |
| Resistance | the server doesnt have network manager | 03:15 |
| qman___ | and restart dnsmasq after you bring up your 10.0.0.1 interface | 03:15 |
| Resistance | the client system *connecting* to the server is | 03:15 |
| qman___ | ah, ok | 03:15 |
| qman___ | well, you can still stop network manager and use dhclient -v instead | 03:15 |
| qman___ | that'll show you what's going on on the line | 03:15 |
| Resistance | but because network manager is a piece of [REDACTED], it doesnt give useful error messages | 03:15 |
| Resistance | ah | 03:15 |
| Resistance | ... only problem is that the system i'm trying to connect to the server is the system i'm talking from... | 03:16 |
| Resistance | and thats running off of a local wifi i have access to... | 03:16 |
| Resistance | if i stop network manager on here, the connection will die :/ | 03:16 |
| qman___ | unfortunately, yes | 03:16 |
| qman___ | but network manager is pretty persistent | 03:17 |
| qman___ | can't reliably dhclient with it running | 03:17 |
| qman___ | can try though | 03:17 |
| Resistance | meh lemme load up colloquy off my iphone so i can continue to communicate here | 03:17 |
| Resistance | note my response speed will be far slower | 03:18 |
| === Resistance is now known as Resist|WEB | ||
| Resist|WEB | okay, lemme bring down network-manager here... | 03:19 |
| Resistance | seems to be trying to broadcast to 255.255.255.255, but nothing seems to be responding... | 03:22 |
| twb | gateway line looks wrong | 03:22 |
| Resistance | there is no more gateway line. | 03:23 |
| qman___ | ok, if nothing's coming back, then next step to try is to make sure you can communicate at all | 03:24 |
| twb | http://paste.debian.net/155527/ is how I'd do it | 03:24 |
| qman___ | manually set an address with ifconfig or ip, and try to ping the server | 03:24 |
| twb | But you want a 0/0 route *somewhere*, it just makes no sense to have it routed to yourself | 03:24 |
| qman___ | there's no internet in his scenario yet, because his second NIC doesn't work | 03:25 |
| twb | OK | 03:25 |
| qman___ | but yeah, normally you'd set one | 03:25 |
| Resistance | qman___ no respons... oh for the love of god... | 03:29 |
| * Resistance face desks | 03:29 | |
| twb | Resistance: purge NM entirely | 03:29 |
| Resistance | I forgot to edit the firewall | 03:29 |
| qman___ | that'll do it | 03:30 |
| qman___ | stopping/starting network-manager works pretty reliably for my laptop | 03:30 |
| qman___ | I often have to set it up as a router/gateway or bridge to troubleshoot stuff on the job, but also need network manager for wifi | 03:30 |
| qman___ | and VPN | 03:30 |
| qman___ | I know I don't NEED it for those functions, but it does them well and is way easier than doing it by hand | 03:31 |
| hallyn | zul: could you please syncpackage -d unstable numactl ? | 03:33 |
| arrrghhh | is there a way to find out what is the physical location of an image file ? all i see is /dev/loop0 on /media/xda when i run 'mount'. lsof didn't seem to find it either.. | 03:34 |
| Resistance | bleh, still not working | 03:34 |
| Resistance | I'll fix it later, I have other stuff to do :/ | 03:34 |
| twb | arrrghhh: losetup | 03:35 |
| twb | arrrghhh: /proc/mounts MAY tell you, I think that's new in 3.2 | 03:35 |
| arrrghhh | ah, excellent | 03:35 |
| arrrghhh | 2.6.32 here lol | 03:35 |
| arrrghhh | sudo losetup -a did it. | 03:36 |
| arrrghhh | thanks | 03:36 |
| twb | mount -o loop uses losetup internally, you see | 03:36 |
| arrrghhh | interesting... | 03:37 |
| arrrghhh | the rabbit hole goes deep usually on linux. especially ubuntu | 03:37 |
| hallyn | not to use arrrghhh's name in vain, but I just realized I lost an hour of last night's work by accidentally terminating an instance :( | 03:43 |
| uvirtbot | New bug: #928608 in bind9 (main) "package bind9 1:9.7.3.dfsg-1ubuntu2.3 failed to install/upgrade: subproses skrip post-installation terpasang menghasilkan kesalahan status keluaran: 1" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/928608 | 03:45 |
| arrrghhh | hallyn, i've been used for worse. | 03:47 |
| hallyn | even with wrath-of-khan-level gesturing? good, cause it was painstaking ugly-patch-porting work... | 03:50 |
| === bladernr_ is now known as bladernr_afk | ||
| cloneMX | hey all, someone alive? | 04:19 |
| twb | No | 04:19 |
| cloneMX | lol | 04:20 |
| cloneMX | someone not-bot alive? | 04:20 |
| arrrghhh | he's not a bot. | 04:20 |
| cloneMX | looks like | 04:21 |
| cloneMX | simple and clear | 04:21 |
| cloneMX | just a Not | 04:21 |
| arrrghhh | but he usually has a pretty good catalog of knowledge, he's answered more than a handful of questions i've had. | 04:21 |
| arrrghhh | er | 04:21 |
| arrrghhh | i guess i'm assuming he. | 04:21 |
| arrrghhh | meep. | 04:21 |
| kantlivelong | anyone here using apcupsd with a RFC1628 SNMP card? | 04:22 |
| arrrghhh | anyhoo, you got a question? | 04:22 |
| cloneMX | yep | 04:22 |
| twb | !anyone | 04:22 |
| ubottu | A high percentage of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..." Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out? See also !details, !gq, and !poll. | 04:22 |
| cloneMX | well | 04:22 |
| arrrghhh | kantlivelong, i'm using apcupsd... but i don't think with that card. sorry. | 04:22 |
| cloneMX | well cause polite first | 04:22 |
| kantlivelong | arrrghhh: its an ethernet based card :P | 04:22 |
| arrrghhh | i have a USB connection from the ups to the PC | 04:22 |
| kantlivelong | ive tried NUT and it seems good except one goof that it doesnt shutdown based on batt percent.. | 04:23 |
| arrrghhh | hrm | 04:23 |
| arrrghhh | it's an APC? | 04:23 |
| kantlivelong | no | 04:23 |
| cloneMX | well mi problem is with some services at ubuntu 11.10 | 04:23 |
| arrrghhh | oh | 04:23 |
| kantlivelong | RFC1628 compliant snmp web card | 04:23 |
| cloneMX | just stop sending bytes after a request | 04:23 |
| cloneMX | ssh and apache | 04:23 |
| kantlivelong | arrrghhh: which apcupsd says it supports | 04:23 |
| arrrghhh | hrm.. | 04:23 |
| cloneMX | but the things is not with all host | 04:24 |
| cloneMX | just with some of it | 04:24 |
| kantlivelong | i hope its just my OS giving me the segfault for apcupsd:P | 04:24 |
| kantlivelong | (not ubuntu for the host node) | 04:24 |
| cloneMX | well think 2 problmems at the same time are not posible | 04:25 |
| cloneMX | lol | 04:25 |
| kantlivelong | i hope this works :) | 04:27 |
| kantlivelong | APCUPSD > NUT | 04:27 |
| cloneMX | guys you know if Ubuntu 11.10 got some kind of intruders network detector | 04:29 |
| twb | Is apcupsd APC-specific? | 04:29 |
| twb | I'm mainly usint nut because I don't know any better | 04:29 |
| twb | cloneMX: not out of the box. Here is the one I use: http://cyber.com.au/~twb/doc/iptab.ips | 04:29 |
| twb | cloneMX: I also recommend running regular pentests from outside the network, e.g. openvas | 04:30 |
| cloneMX | well I was asking cause I dont know why the server is closing my network service conections like apache2 and ssh | 04:31 |
| cloneMX | but not from all Hots | 04:31 |
| cloneMX | hosts | 04:31 |
| cloneMX | : D | 04:31 |
| arrrghhh | have you checked the logs? | 04:31 |
| twb | cloneMX: probably because your switch is fucked or your NATing router is fucked, or you have a bad cable or similar. | 04:32 |
| arrrghhh | i would think all connections would drop if it was on the host side. | 04:32 |
| arrrghhh | no/ | 04:32 |
| arrrghhh | ? | 04:32 |
| cloneMX | well im using a brand new adsl modem | 04:32 |
| twb | cloneMX: do the normal fault isolation things, such as checking the logs (as arrrghhh suggests), turning other services off, turning debugging on/up, swapping out components | 04:32 |
| cloneMX | over a pppoe | 04:32 |
| cloneMX | no logs | 04:32 |
| cloneMX | no firewall | 04:32 |
| twb | testing components in isolation, e.g. connecting locally before connecting over the network | 04:33 |
| cloneMX | no info | 04:33 |
| arrrghhh | no logs? | 04:33 |
| arrrghhh | there's logs. | 04:33 |
| cloneMX | yep | 04:33 |
| arrrghhh | apache logs, ssh logs | 04:33 |
| cloneMX | no information over the logs | 04:33 |
| cloneMX | it just work from some hots | 04:33 |
| arrrghhh | hrm | 04:33 |
| cloneMX | and not from others | 04:33 |
| cloneMX | for example | 04:33 |
| cloneMX | now I can see the host from home | 04:34 |
| cloneMX | my adsl | 04:34 |
| twb | cloneMX: there is a limit to how much we can babysit you | 04:34 |
| cloneMX | lol | 04:34 |
| cloneMX | ty anyway | 04:34 |
| arrrghhh | cloneMX, first, quit using the enter key as punctuation. ask your question all in one line. | 04:34 |
| twb | cloneMX: it sounds like you're inexperienced enough that you really need someone on the ground who can isolate the fault. | 04:35 |
| twb | cloneMX: find your local linux user group (LUG) and ask them to recommend someone | 04:35 |
| cloneMX | kk | 04:35 |
| cloneMX | letme explain it | 04:35 |
| twb | You've been explaining the symptoms for 48 hours without getting anywhere. Repeating yourself is not going to help. | 04:36 |
| cloneMX | im just did what you said | 04:36 |
| arrrghhh | oh i haven't been here to see it, sorry. | 04:36 |
| qman___ | from what you've said, it sounds like a generic network fault, which could be your NIC, or a piece of hardware somewhere between the endpoints, or just the internet being the internet | 04:36 |
| cloneMX | from basics | 04:36 |
| arrrghhh | cloneMX, WAN residential connections are best effort. | 04:36 |
| arrrghhh | they have pretty much no QoS. certainly they won't take anything that is passed thru your LAN | 04:37 |
| cloneMX | ok | 04:37 |
| qman___ | home connections in general, and DSL in particular, are fairly unreliable | 04:38 |
| arrrghhh | yea... DSL suxxxxxors. | 04:38 |
| arrrghhh | i'm so very glad i vowed to never use it again :D | 04:38 |
| qman___ | and if you're running on the ISP provided equipment, it's just as likely the box they gave you is crap | 04:38 |
| qman___ | they do it all the time | 04:38 |
| arrrghhh | see the previous on dsl sucking ^^ | 04:38 |
| cloneMX | ok | 04:39 |
| arrrghhh | cloneMX, you want a reliable host? VPS. | 04:39 |
| twb | arrrghhh: what are you using instead, satellite down, PSTN up? | 04:39 |
| arrrghhh | lol@PSTN | 04:39 |
| twb | That's the only alternative to DSL in .au | 04:39 |
| twb | FSVO alternative = can't get DSL | 04:39 |
| arrrghhh | cable.. tis the best my area has to offer at the time being | 04:39 |
| arrrghhh | oh | 04:39 |
| arrrghhh | i forget about regional issues | 04:40 |
| arrrghhh | some areas have fiber | 04:40 |
| arrrghhh | some have... no choice | 04:40 |
| qman___ | yeah, in the US cable is the best trade off | 04:40 |
| arrrghhh | indeed | 04:40 |
| qman___ | FIOS is a better line, obviously, but is only available in select areas | 04:40 |
| arrrghhh | comcrast has run some fiber, and their connections are the fastest. | 04:40 |
| qman___ | cable is widely available and fairly reliable as long as you have good equipment | 04:40 |
| arrrghhh | yup, no FiOS here. | 04:40 |
| EvilResistance | qman___: i beg to differ on the FiOS thing | 04:40 |
| arrrghhh | qman___, always purchase my own. | 04:40 |
| arrrghhh | i wish that community internet would take hold | 04:41 |
| EvilResistance | qman___: identical allowable internet bandwidth in the same location, homes literally next to each other, comcast has more net reliability than FiOS | 04:41 |
| arrrghhh | look up 'greenlight cable' | 04:41 |
| EvilResistance | at least out at my home | 04:41 |
| arrrghhh | i installed that head-end. 10mb up AND down for $40/mo | 04:41 |
| EvilResistance | out here where I am now, though, Comcast has the domination | 04:41 |
| arrrghhh | 100/100 for... i want to say $99/mo | 04:41 |
| cloneMX | lol | 04:42 |
| qman___ | comcast also has a 250GB/month cap | 04:42 |
| qman___ | FIOS does not | 04:42 |
| cloneMX | ok guys ty | 04:42 |
| arrrghhh | i know. dicks. | 04:42 |
| Darkwing | I like my Cox cable... No cap, static IP address | 04:42 |
| Darkwing | 25up 10down | 04:42 |
| arrrghhh | wait, what? | 04:42 |
| twb | Darkwing: ah, but is it a static IPv6 addrses | 04:42 |
| arrrghhh | other way around i assume | 04:42 |
| qman___ | for home lines anyway, business class comcast is better | 04:42 |
| arrrghhh | 25up lol | 04:42 |
| EvilResistance | qman___: if available ;P | 04:42 |
| Darkwing | IPv4, but it works for a small home server :D | 04:42 |
| EvilResistance | business class isnt available out here | 04:42 |
| qman___ | most of the customers I work with have comcast business lines, but at my house there is only charter communications | 04:44 |
| qman___ | it's charter, dialup, satellite, or T1 | 04:44 |
| qman___ | no other options are available | 04:44 |
| twb | What's charter, a guy on a horse with a bag of USB keys? | 04:45 |
| qman___ | cable, just a lesser known provider | 04:45 |
| qman___ | costs more than comcast with less speed, but no usage cap | 04:45 |
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| raddy_ | Hello Everybody | 05:16 |
| raddy_ | I installed postgresql 8.4 in ubuntu 10.04. | 05:16 |
| raddy_ | But, /etc/postgresql/8.4/ folder not created | 05:17 |
| raddy_ | Can anybody suggest what could the problem | 05:17 |
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| lapsusbrutus | bat crashes on startup.. needs 9101 to function but fails to listen to this port. installed bacula also. did same thing on a debian computer and no problem at all. | 08:26 |
| journeeman | Connection problems :/ | 08:49 |
| journeeman | Sorry for flooding but, I'll repost the question - I recently installed Oneiric Server-amd64 on a Dell Poweredge 2950 which has an embedded ATI ES1000 card. I need to use virt-manager to manage a few VMs (having trouble with virsh) so, I installed xubuntu-desktop. On reboot, the screen just keeps flickering for a while before blanking out. The radeon driver is installed. There is no xorg.conf file | 08:56 |
| journeeman | to edit in /etc/X11. | 08:56 |
| journeeman | Please help :) | 08:57 |
| henkjan | journeeman: you can connect with virt-manager on your workstation to libvirt on the server | 09:07 |
| henkjan | journeeman: or ssh -X to your server | 09:07 |
| henkjan | installing a graphical environment on your server to run virt-manager is not wat you should do imho | 09:08 |
| journeeman | Oh ok | 09:09 |
| journeeman | Will try them out. Thank you henkjan :) | 09:10 |
| chelz | journeeman: pretty sure you can use virt-manager to remotely connect to machines | 09:13 |
| chelz | File -> Add Connection -> Connection: [dropdown menu] | 09:13 |
| chelz | in that dropdown you can select various kinds of remote access | 09:13 |
| chelz | journeeman: so you really don't need to install something as heavy as a full DE | 09:14 |
| chelz | and even then, lxde is better than xfce, or dwn, ion, ratpoison, etc | 09:14 |
| greppy | ( as a screen and tmux user, /me <3 ratpoison ) | 09:15 |
| chelz | dwm* | 09:16 |
| jkyle | hwo would I laod hte megaraid_sas driver in a preseed.cfg? my hands off install is not detecting the raid card correctly | 09:57 |
| RoyK | jibel: afaik that should happen automatically if the PCI ID of the board is known to the driver | 10:05 |
| Ruetobas | anyone using orchestra? just installed on an vm instance and the distro list is empty... | 10:11 |
| jkyle | RoyK: the driver is a megaraid_sas, it says it can't detect the drives. I load teh driver, and the install proceeds | 10:46 |
| jkyle | so, need to automate that selection | 10:46 |
| yahoo123 | Good day to you all! | 10:46 |
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| jkyle | tried: disk-detect/module_select select megaraid_sas | 10:48 |
| jkyle | actually, I think I got it...nice | 10:57 |
| Vivek | kirkland, roaksoax, SpamapS, Daviey : Anyone around ? | 11:08 |
| === _ruben_ is now known as _ruben | ||
| Vivek | roaksoax: The /etc/rsyslog.d/99-orchestra.conf is pasted here http://paste.debian.net/155555/ | 11:17 |
| uvirtbot | New bug: #928769 in nova (main) "nova-compute fails due to absence of policy.json" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/928769 | 11:21 |
| Daviey | uksysadmin: Can you raise a bug please? | 11:46 |
| uksysadmin | yeah will do | 11:46 |
| Daviey | Trying to work out why others haven't spotted this as yet. | 11:47 |
| Daviey | including our CI | 11:47 |
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| soren | Daviey: What's this+ | 11:53 |
| soren | ? | 11:53 |
| Vivek | Daviey: hI | 11:54 |
| Daviey | soren: bleed over from #openstack | 11:54 |
| Daviey | hey Vivek | 11:54 |
| Vivek | Daviey: I am still working on the DHCP issue from yesterday. | 11:54 |
| Daviey | Vivek: happy times! | 11:55 |
| Vivek | roaksoax has asked me for my 99-orchestra.conf file which was pasted earlier. | 11:55 |
| soren | Daviey: Ah, there. Awesome. | 11:55 |
| Vivek | My query was regarding creation of directories in the /var/log/orchestra/rsyslog directory corresponding to machines in the eth0 interface. | 11:58 |
| Vivek | In dnsmasq.conf also I have set up the interface eth0 to not give out any dhcp requests via eth0. | 11:58 |
| Vivek | eth0 is in bridged mode and the provisioning server runs inside a virtualbox . eth1 is the internal network range. | 11:59 |
| Vivek | The internal network range is something like 192.168.1.x | 11:59 |
| Vivek | eth1 is in internal networking mode. | 11:59 |
| Vivek | I would like to know why those directories named after 10.x.x.x I.P Addresses are created inside /var/log/orchestra/rsyslog. | 12:00 |
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| Daviey | Vivek: i suspect they are created when the installer starts sending stuff back to the rsyslog server | 12:19 |
| Vivek | ok | 12:22 |
| Vivek | I understand that. | 12:23 |
| Vivek | Daviey: Can you point me to exact source code that causes this to happen ? | 12:23 |
| Vivek | Daviey: I would also like to know why there is dhcp and dhcp3 directories in /etc | 12:27 |
| Vivek | Which one does orchestra use ? | 12:27 |
| Daviey | Vivek: i think that is how rsyslog works.. you'd need to grep the rsyslog souce code for that. | 12:31 |
| journeeman | chelz, henkjan Thank you :) | 12:40 |
| Vivek | ok | 12:51 |
| Vivek | Daviey: There are no machines installed in the 10.x.x.x series | 12:52 |
| Vivek | via eth0 | 12:52 |
| Vivek | All machines are commissioned via the eth1 interface with I.P Address 192.168.1.x series | 12:53 |
| Daviey | Vivek: i suspect it's something to do with your enviroment, virtualbox bridge? | 12:57 |
| Vivek | Yes | 12:58 |
| Vivek | eth0 is in virtualbox bridge | 12:58 |
| Vivek | eth1 is in internal network mode. | 12:58 |
| Vivek | eth0 has the 10.x.x.x series I.P Address assigned to it | 12:58 |
| Vivek | and eth1 has the 192.168.1.x series I.P Address. | 12:59 |
| uvirtbot | New bug: #928834 in nova (main) "nova-compute depends on qemu-kvm, even if kvm is not used" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/928834 | 13:30 |
| zul | good morning | 13:51 |
| uvirtbot | New bug: #928848 in nova (main) "nova-common installation triggers nova-manage db sync on compute node" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/928848 | 13:58 |
| === dduffey_afk is now known as dduffey | ||
| Daviey | zul: does bug 892754 impact us? | 14:01 |
| uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 892754 in glance "test suite doesn't work with sqlalchemy v7" [Low,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/892754 | 14:01 |
| zul | looking | 14:01 |
| zul | Daviey: possibly | 14:02 |
| zul | Daviey: i think we should be fine | 14:04 |
| Daviey | zul: oh? | 14:05 |
| zul | we are already running 0.7.3 on precise | 14:05 |
| Daviey | zul: Precise has v7 of sqlalchemy, no? | 14:05 |
| Daviey | right | 14:06 |
| Daviey | "test suite doesn't work with sqlalchemy v7" | 14:06 |
| zul | Daviey: right but according to the pip-requires you need >= 0.6.3 | 14:06 |
| zul | https://review.openstack.org/#change,3814 | 14:07 |
| Daviey | zul: Are you following what i am saying? | 14:08 |
| zul | Daviey: i might be missing | 14:08 |
| Daviey | precise has 0.7 (aka v7) right? | 14:08 |
| zul | right | 14:08 |
| Daviey | "test suite doesn't work with sqlalchemy v7" | 14:08 |
| Daviey | *doesn't* | 14:08 |
| zul | oh suck i totally missed that :( | 14:10 |
| zul | yeah we need that patch | 14:10 |
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| jjohansen | hallyn: so I have a bug or two that have slowed me down and I am to tired/stupid to see it atm. I need to get a few hours sleep and then I get back to finding the problem and getting the ppa together for you. | 14:30 |
| hallyn | jjohansen: thanks | 14:39 |
| jcastro | jamespage: excellent blog post, I've totally ripped it off and resyndicated it everywhere | 14:45 |
| jamespage | jcastro: so I noticed - thanks! | 14:45 |
| hallyn | kirkland: byobu-tmux problem | 15:10 |
| hallyn | kirkland: log in as user1, run byobu-tmux. life is good. | 15:10 |
| hallyn | kirland: log in as user2 in another window. run byobu-tmux. frowny face. | 15:10 |
| hallyn | kirland: 5929 mkdir("/tmp//tmux-1001", 0700) = -1 EACCES (Permission denied) | 15:11 |
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| tgardner | changing the orchestra.preseed to 'd-i user-setup/encrypt-home boolean true' causes the installer to stop and complain that empty passwords are not allowed. Anyone seen this before ? | 15:23 |
| kirkland | hallyn: how odd | 15:24 |
| kirkland | hallyn: what's the uid of user1 and user2? 1000 and 1001? | 15:24 |
| kirkland | hallyn: did user1 DoS user2 by mkdir'ing /tmp/tmux-1001? | 15:25 |
| kirkland | hallyn: you can change the tmux socket path with the -S option (see tmux.1) | 15:25 |
| hallyn | kirkland: just reporting what i've found so far. i'll test a fresh install later. didn't explictly do any DoSing. seems like byobu-tmux should pick a socket it can use automatically :) | 15:29 |
| hallyn | if i can reproduce on clean install i'll file a bug | 15:29 |
| kirkland | hallyn: yeah, I've talked to the upstream about this, it is actually pretty easy to annoy another user, though not completely DoS them | 15:29 |
| Vivek | kirkland: Hi | 15:30 |
| kirkland | Vivek: hi | 15:32 |
| Vivek | I am still trying to figure out the reason for those directories in /var/log/orchestra/rsyslog. | 15:33 |
| Vivek | kirkland: Does canonical have any case studies of Orchestra implementations ? | 15:33 |
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| === Ursinha is now known as Ursinha-lunch | ||
| tgardner | jamespage, have you been testing orchestra preseeds with encrypted home directories? I'm finding that it stops the automated install. | 15:38 |
| kirkland | Vivek: not that I know of, though as I mentioned last week, I no longer work for Canonical, sorry | 15:39 |
| kirkland | Vivek: the /var/log/orchestra/rsyslog directories are the remote logging information from deployed clients | 15:39 |
| Vivek | Correct. | 15:39 |
| kirkland | Vivek: including the installation logs | 15:39 |
| Vivek | Correct. | 15:39 |
| Vivek | In my case I have used your installation instructions. | 15:40 |
| Vivek | 1) Set up a virtual machine in Virtualbox | 15:40 |
| Vivek | 2) eth0 is bridged to the external world and has an I.P Address in 10.x.x.x range. | 15:41 |
| Vivek | 2) eth1 has an internal network set up in the 192.168.1.x range. | 15:41 |
| Vivek | Nodes are getting commissioned without any issues. | 15:41 |
| Vivek | So far so good. | 15:41 |
| Vivek | Now in /var/log/orchestra/rsyslog/ I am getting directories of the form 10.x.x.x which should not happen as Orchestera is only supposed to commission nodes in the 192.168.1.x series. | 15:42 |
| Vivek | In dnsmasq I have used the interface=eth1 option so no dhcp requests should go via eth0 | 15:43 |
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| kirkland | Vivek: hmm, well, something's wrong then... as that means that rsyslog is picking up remote system logging from 10.x addresses | 15:43 |
| Vivek | ok. | 15:43 |
| Vivek | Which according to me is a bug. | 15:43 |
| kirkland | Vivek: i really need to pass you over to Daviey and/or roaksoax for help on this | 15:43 |
| Vivek | ok np, I've had my conversations with them earlier today. | 15:44 |
| Vivek | Daviey, roaksoax : Are you folks around ? | 15:44 |
| Daviey | Vivek: I don't know what else i can add. Something is clearly posting logs back to the rsyslog, if we saw them, it would help. | 15:44 |
| Vivek | I can pastebin the logs np | 15:45 |
| Vivek | Which logs do you need ? | 15:45 |
| Vivek | Let me pastebin those logs. | 15:46 |
| Vivek | Daviey: http://paste.debian.net/155584/ | 15:49 |
| Vivek | That is what is done. | 15:49 |
| Vivek | happening rather... | 15:49 |
| Daviey | Vivek: Golly. | 15:50 |
| Vivek | root@orchestra:/var/log/orchestra/rsyslog/2012/02/08/orchestra# ping 10.130.55.205 | 15:50 |
| Vivek | PING 10.130.55.205 (10.130.55.205) 56(84) bytes of data. | 15:50 |
| Vivek | 64 bytes from 10.130.55.205: icmp_req=1 ttl=128 time=0.987 ms | 15:50 |
| Vivek | 64 bytes from 10.130.55.205: icmp_req=2 ttl=128 time=0.922 ms | 15:50 |
| Daviey | Vivek: So, orchestra is the hostname it came from. | 15:50 |
| Vivek | ok... | 15:50 |
| Daviey | i'm going to guess that is localhost of the rsyslog server | 15:50 |
| Daviey | Therefore, orchestra has done nothing incorrect. | 15:50 |
| Vivek | No | 15:50 |
| Vivek | 10.130.55.205 is not the localhost of the rsyslog server | 15:51 |
| Daviey | Vivek: you aren't listening. :) | 15:51 |
| Vivek | The I.P Address is 10.130.55.x but not 205. | 15:51 |
| Vivek | ok | 15:51 |
| Daviey | oh wait | 15:51 |
| Daviey | Vivek: what is 10.130.55.205 | 15:51 |
| Daviey | ? | 15:51 |
| Vivek | It is a machine on my corporate network trying to contact the orchestra server for some reason. | 15:52 |
| Daviey | So what is the problem? | 15:52 |
| Vivek | It is not a node commissioned by orchestra | 15:52 |
| Daviey | Vivek: ignore orchestra.. this is rsyslog | 15:52 |
| Vivek | ok. | 15:52 |
| Daviey | Someone sat in a desk next to you tried to ssh to your orchestra server, right? | 15:53 |
| Vivek | Why are remote servers trying to log to the orchestra syslog ? | 15:53 |
| Vivek | I don't think so | 15:53 |
| Daviey | They are not.. | 15:53 |
| Vivek | Unless the IT department is spying :) | 15:53 |
| Daviey | The log originated FROM localhost. | 15:53 |
| Vivek | ok | 15:53 |
| Vivek | I don't think any attempt was made to ssh to 205 | 15:54 |
| Vivek | My concern is dnsmasq broadcasting still on eth0, a tcmpdump says no.... | 15:54 |
| Daviey | Vivek: You have it the wrong way around... | 15:54 |
| Vivek | ok. | 15:54 |
| Daviey | .205 was trying to ssh into your orchestra server. | 15:54 |
| Vivek | Yes, I got it. That is how remote clients provide the logs to rsyslog. | 15:55 |
| Vivek | Why is .205 trying to ssh into the orchestra server ? | 15:55 |
| Daviey | Vivek: I can book a flight, and conduct a survey around your office if you want? | 15:55 |
| Vivek | lol | 15:55 |
| Daviey | Vivek: find out who has .205, and ask them? | 15:56 |
| Caribou | jdstrand: ping ? | 15:56 |
| Vivek | Yes have 6000 staff so that would not be feasible :) | 15:56 |
| Vivek | Anyways, thanks. | 15:56 |
| Vivek | Let me phrase the question in another way, when a new node comes up, is it possible to view that log some where on orchestra, rsyslog ? | 15:59 |
| Vivek | As far as I know it can be viewed in /var/log/orchestra/rsyslog/ but there I find those 10.x.x.x directories also. | 16:00 |
| Vivek | If i write to parse those logs and automate some action based on those logs which logs should I refer to ensure that a new node has come up ? | 16:01 |
| Vivek | write a script | 16:01 |
| Vivek | Or even pointing me to section of code that creates those logs would be appreciated... | 16:02 |
| kpettit | Anybody know of a good opensource drop box type of tool? I need a way to let users upload large files and share them via link. But we want it on our own systems | 16:02 |
| jdstrand | Caribou: hi | 16:02 |
| Caribou | jdstrand: morning | 16:02 |
| Caribou | jdstrand: I have a question for you that should be easy | 16:03 |
| Caribou | jdstrand: when doing NAT through iptables, what is needed to have tftpd packets accepted from the NATted network ? | 16:04 |
| Caribou | I read that nf_nat_ftp & nf_conntrack_ftp modules were needed | 16:04 |
| Caribou | jdstrand: right now, the tftpd daemon gets the request but refuses connection from the NAT address | 16:06 |
| smoser | rbasak, so for your private cloud issue, lynxman wants there to be an entry for `hostname` in /etc/hosts. | 16:06 |
| smoser | but we've had repeated issues with doing that. | 16:06 |
| jdstrand | Caribou: so nat clients are trying to connect to an un-natted tftpd? | 16:06 |
| smoser | one way it pisses off some thing, one way it pisses off another. | 16:06 |
| Caribou | jdstrand: what do you mean by "un-natted tftpd" ? | 16:07 |
| lynxman | smoser: it's just so we're in line with the experience we deliver with the server install | 16:07 |
| rbasak | smoser: how about doing it if a hostname is explicitly specified in user-data, but not otherwise? | 16:08 |
| rbasak | Otherwise specifying a hostname with cloud-init is broken | 16:08 |
| lynxman | smoser: I recall we had a talk about this at the rally | 16:08 |
| smoser | rbasak, then just set 'manage_etc_hosts: localhost' | 16:08 |
| smoser | and you'll be happy | 16:08 |
| smoser | or even 'template' i think | 16:08 |
| smoser | http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~cloud-init-dev/cloud-init/trunk/view/head:/doc/examples/cloud-config.txt | 16:08 |
| Caribou | jdstrand: the tftp requests (actually PXE boot requesting pxelinux.0) coming from a 2nd NIC in a NATted subnet | 16:09 |
| jdstrand | Caribou: is the tftpd daemon on the same nat network as the clients? | 16:09 |
| Caribou | jdstrand: no, that's the issue | 16:10 |
| rbasak | Aha, I didn't know about this setting. Thanks! | 16:10 |
| jdstrand | Caribou: ok, so you see the nat address of the client in the tftpd logs, not the address of the router doing the nating? | 16:10 |
| koolhead17 | hi all | 16:16 |
| Vivek | koolhead17: Hi | 16:22 |
| koolhead17 | hi Vivek | 16:22 |
| Daviey | Vivek: I said, those locations get created by rsyslog itself. | 16:24 |
| Vivek | Daviey: I am trying to identify what those machines are by nmap | 16:25 |
| Vivek | Those machines that are trying to ssh | 16:25 |
| Daviey | Vivek: honestly, if you have 6000 staff - and have no way of tracking internal IP addresses back to an owner, you have MUCH bigger problems | 16:25 |
| Vivek | Daviey: Tracking them would involve coordinating with the Internal IT which is again going to be a PITA. | 16:26 |
| Vivek | Daviey: Let me do my homework first :) | 16:26 |
| Daviey | cool | 16:28 |
| koolhead17 | so what are you tracking Vivek? | 16:31 |
| Vivek | Looks like IT monitoring me :) | 16:31 |
| Vivek | Need to figure that out mate. | 16:31 |
| Vivek | Had a talk with out manager. | 16:31 |
| Vivek | our* | 16:32 |
| koolhead17 | are you downloding porn at work? | 16:32 |
| Tixos | hey | 16:32 |
| Vivek | No :) | 16:32 |
| Tixos | can someone tell me if this is a 'default' ubuntu user on a new server | 16:32 |
| Tixos | citadel:x:103:112:Citadel system user,,,:/var/lib/citadel:/bin/false | 16:32 |
| Tixos | googled the name, and it comes up with some admin panel ? | 16:33 |
| koolhead17 | Tixos: where did you got the image? did you check MD5 checksum | 16:33 |
| Tixos | its a dedi, the provider installed it | 16:33 |
| Tixos | and trust me they are useless | 16:33 |
| koolhead17 | Vivek: better work then downloading poer | 16:33 |
| Vivek | I got the nmap output, the OS is Microsoft Windows. with the open ports they are running. | 16:33 |
| rbasak | smoser: I've tried manage_etc_hosts: template and manage_etc_hosts: localhost but neither seem to have any effect. Is there something I'm missing? | 16:33 |
| koolhead17 | Tixos: your at wrong place then | 16:34 |
| Tixos | not really | 16:34 |
| Tixos | look at my questions, its perfectly valid here | 16:34 |
| Tixos | also, citadel is in the repos, so if you dont want to help, thats fine | 16:34 |
| koolhead17 | Tixos: the provider can remaster and upload the image. :) | 16:34 |
| koolhead17 | afaik during deployment one has to create a user | 16:35 |
| Tixos | you havent even answered my question, im only assuming from your replies that its not default | 16:35 |
| koolhead17 | Tixos: yes | 16:35 |
| Tixos | there is no home dir for that user | 16:35 |
| Tixos | no home DIR at all infact | 16:36 |
| Tixos | for a user that is... | 16:36 |
| koolhead17 | Tixos: its a application | 16:37 |
| Vivek | koolhead17: The downloads I do are perfectly legal and done after managements approval. I don't know if using tor is the reason. | 16:37 |
| Tixos | its not installed though > p citadel-client - complete and feature-rich groupware server (command line client) | 16:37 |
| koolhead17 | no security threat. :) install server like mysql on the host and check /etc/passwd you will see | 16:37 |
| Vivek | In that case I am stopping that too now that IRC SSL ports are open. | 16:38 |
| koolhead17 | Vivek: will talk tomorrow in office | 16:38 |
| Tixos | which is the correct way to create a user again, useradd or adduser :P | 16:39 |
| Tixos | ive been told off for this before | 16:39 |
| smb | zul, smoser So I finally figured out why there is bug 922486. I hope to have spelled out all my findings along with one proposal how to fix it. Based on testing it seems to work well but I guess someone with libvirt experience may want to make sure this is not too much of a hack. | 16:39 |
| uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 922486 in libvirt "libvirt boot race on xen hypervisor" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/922486 | 16:39 |
| Vivek | koolhead17: Yes, in that case IT will have to answer for disrupting my work :) | 16:41 |
| Vivek | koolhead17: Anyways tommorow. | 16:41 |
| Tixos | Fetched 15.4MB in 0s (21.2MB/s) yum | 16:42 |
| === Ursinha-lunch is now known as Ursinha | ||
| zul | hallyn: ^^^ | 16:49 |
| zul | smb: it looks fine to me, but i want hallyn's oppinon as well | 16:50 |
| Tixos | adduser or useradd? | 16:51 |
| smb | zul, Ah, ok. Sure. Sorry, forgot him as libvirt stuff reviewer | 16:51 |
| hallyn | smb: looking | 16:52 |
| hallyn | <shrug> seems to make sense, not knowing any of that code. if it fixes it, go for it :) | 16:55 |
| hallyn | zul: let's hope we don't forget that fix if we go with 0.9.9 | 16:55 |
| smb | Tried to be careful and have it in the ubuntu patches section with that debdiff. Cannot upload it though. :) | 16:56 |
| hallyn | smb: no it's just that i already cut a 0.9.9 candidate, just have to not forget about your patch :) | 16:57 |
| hallyn | smb: you don't have upload rights? | 16:57 |
| smb | hallyn, nope. not beyond kernel (so only harmless things) | 16:58 |
| hallyn | heh | 16:58 |
| hallyn | smb: so that debdiff has been tested, and should be pushed? | 16:58 |
| smb | hallyn, Hm, I tested the version with a lot more debugging in it. Give me a sec, I have not yet tested the compile of the debdiff | 16:59 |
| hallyn | ok. your comment in #6 also seems sensible, just based on a glance | 16:59 |
| smb | hallyn, Only that change I did never make to test it. Just looked a bit odd, and I was wondering why there was no real error message in the logs | 17:01 |
| smb | hallyn, Hm, think I need a bit more testing. Noticed some error messages when booting and am not sure they are because of my change... | 17:06 |
| === koolhead17 is now known as koolhead17|zzZZ | ||
| smb | hallyn, Ok, seems the "ERROR: Can't find hypervisor information in sysfs!" when booting in non-xen mode is independent to my change in libvirt. So it looks ok to upload it | 17:16 |
| hallyn | smb: the exact debdiff in comment 5, no changes? | 17:18 |
| hallyn | i'll toss in the new 'start on' at the same time then | 17:19 |
| smb | hallyn, yes exactly that | 17:19 |
| hallyn | ok, will push, thanks | 17:20 |
| smb | hallyn, thanks for uploading. I'll pick up the results tomorrow | 17:20 |
| hallyn | pushed - gnight | 17:27 |
| Vivek | laters | 17:29 |
| Vivek | & | 17:29 |
| SpamapS | jamespage: here? | 17:51 |
| hallyn | save the earth! | 18:02 |
| hallyn | oops, wrong chan :) | 18:02 |
| hallyn | i need to better control my windows! :) | 18:02 |
| hallyn | (you know, to reduce wasted packets, which waste energy) | 18:03 |
| acidflash | is anyone familiar with bcache? | 18:04 |
| webPragmatist | i'm trying to figure out how to install http://old-releases.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/universe/t/ttf2pt1/ | 18:08 |
| webPragmatist | it doesn't seem to be a part of a package in apt | 18:08 |
| hallyn | zul: have you had a chance to test libvirt 0.9.9? | 18:10 |
| hallyn | i'm going to fire off a qa-regression-test against it i guess | 18:11 |
| zul | hallyn: yeah i tested it a little last night, ill do some more tonight | 18:15 |
| === koolhead17|zzZZ is now known as koolhead17 | ||
| utlemming | hallyn: it looks like you can't SSH into the cloud images when run under LXC | 18:36 |
| utlemming | hallyn: I'm looking now. The root cause is that SSH keys are not being generated on boot within LXC | 18:37 |
| hallyn | utlemming: it *might* be due to a missing upstart event bc of something that doesn't happen in containers (yet). | 18:37 |
| utlemming | hallyn: it looks like sense cloud-init is not seeing a data-source, it does not generate the SSH Keys | 18:49 |
| adam_g | utlemming: what does cloud-init use as a data-source when booting in a container? | 18:51 |
| adam_g | (ive got no idea, just curious) | 18:51 |
| utlemming | adam_g: it looks for the 169.???.???.??? address | 18:52 |
| adam_g | utlemming: thats the ec2 metadata service | 18:52 |
| adam_g | utlemming: when we boot cloud-init on hardware in teh CI lab, we're injecting metadata and userdata into /var/lib/cloud/seed/nocloud-net/ after installation, which gets picked up on first boot by cloud-init | 18:53 |
| adam_g | utlemming: http://paste.ubuntu.com/834299/ http://paste.ubuntu.com/834302/ | 18:55 |
| * utlemming looks | 18:56 | |
| utlemming | hallyn: I'll have to revist that script later, but I think we'll end up with ubucloud and ubucloud-local, where the ubucloud-local unclouds the image. | 18:59 |
| hallyn | utlemming: you mean the templates? If so, we can just add '--local' to the template-specific flags | 19:02 |
| hallyn | though i'd rather to '--ec2', and have local be the default | 19:02 |
| hallyn | so, 'lxc-create -t ubuntu-cloud -n cloud1 -- --ec2' | 19:03 |
| utlemming | hallyn: yes...and I like that | 19:03 |
| hallyn | if no ec2, then always create the ssh keys, and don't waste my time looking for 169.* | 19:03 |
| utlemming | hallyn: although, I would have a generic label like "--no-cloud" | 19:05 |
| utlemming | er, "--cloud" | 19:05 |
| zul | hallyn: new libvirt looks ok so far | 19:05 |
| hallyn | utlemming: that's good. how involved is the mangling we have to do in the rootfs? | 19:08 |
| hallyn | zul: qrt tests going ok so far. though ih ad to edit the qatest/qatest.xml to not specify /usr/bin/qemu as the emulator | 19:09 |
| utlemming | hallyn: it should be easy | 19:09 |
| utlemming | hallyn: and less mangling than you'd think | 19:09 |
| zul | hallyn: ah cool | 19:09 |
| utlemming | hallyn: let me test my fix | 19:10 |
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| hallyn | zul: actually, virsh appears to be hung doing an attach-interface (as part of the qrt) | 19:36 |
| zul | hallyn: thats not good | 19:36 |
| kraut | hi | 19:37 |
| kraut | i'm using a nfs-export from my ubuntu server on my dvb reciever for timeshift. it happens sporadic that the video freezes and i see at that moment a high usage of kworker | 19:37 |
| kraut | is this an issue in anyway? | 19:37 |
| stgraber | hallyn: ETA for upstart upload is 5pm eastern (so I believe 4pm for you) | 19:43 |
| hallyn | stgraber: exciting! | 19:45 |
| stgraber | hallyn: do you already have a lxcguest-less LXC source package? | 19:47 |
| hallyn | no | 19:48 |
| hallyn | stgraber: should we create an empty lxcguest package for it? Or just yank it out of the source pkg? or have lxc now conflict with old lxcguest? | 19:49 |
| stgraber | hallyn: well, upstart will conflict with lxcguest, so there's no way anyone could install the package ;) | 19:50 |
| stgraber | hallyn: I guess we should just drop it entirely from the source and update the template to only install it pre-precise | 19:50 |
| stgraber | then file a binary removal bug to get lxcguest out of the archive to avoid having it included in the cloud images | 19:50 |
| stgraber | that should take care of all the use cases I can think of | 19:52 |
| smoser | hallyn, did you hvae a questionon generation of ssh keys in cloud images ? | 19:57 |
| smoser | cloud-images don't have ssh keys generated, and don't generate them unless there is a instance-id found. | 19:59 |
| smoser | we maybe should fix that so that they generate the keys anywhay. | 19:59 |
| utlemming | smoser: I did...I'm patching the lxc-ubuntu-cloud to take care of that | 19:59 |
| smoser | wait... | 20:00 |
| smoser | no, lets do it right. | 20:00 |
| smoser | cloud-init should do that as leaving no ssh keys is quite generally useless. | 20:01 |
| smoser | what did you to disable cloud-init? | 20:01 |
| utlemming | smoser: I'm preseeding some meta-data | 20:01 |
| utlemming | smoser: and allowing users to define host name, instance-id and user-data | 20:02 |
| utlemming | smoser: which I think is valuable to the end user | 20:02 |
| smoser | yeah, that makes sense. but keys should get generated anyway. | 20:03 |
| hallyn | stgraber: were you queueing up any lxc changes right now? | 20:04 |
| stgraber | hallyn: nope | 20:05 |
| utlemming | hallyn: here's my patch for lxc-ubuntu-cloud, http://paste.ubuntu.com/834391/ | 20:07 |
| hallyn | utlemming: ok, thanks | 20:09 |
| hallyn | smoser: ^ that fits in with what you want (always generating keys) too? | 20:09 |
| smoser | hallyn, but wait. | 20:10 |
| smoser | hostname ? | 20:10 |
| smoser | isnt that non-sensical? | 20:10 |
| smoser | or conflicting with an lxxc container setting ? | 20:11 |
| danp | yo! I'm wondering if the scripts used to build HVM AMI ami-976da7fe (099720109477/ubuntu/images-sandbox/hvm/ubuntu-lucid-daily-amd64-server-20110930-backport-kernel-oneiric) are available somewhere. I can't seem to find anything for that in the ec2-publishing-scripts or automated-ec2-builds repos /cc smoser | 20:11 |
| utlemming | afaik, it doesn't | 20:12 |
| smoser | danp, they are there. | 20:12 |
| smoser | "hvmify" | 20:12 |
| utlemming | danp: the EC2 registration tools are NDA for HVM though | 20:12 |
| smoser | thats the only difference between the hvm and the instance-store. | 20:12 |
| smoser | er.. i meant to say hvm and ebs. | 20:12 |
| smoser | but, also, what utlemming said. | 20:13 |
| smoser | but more than the NDA bit is your account wont have credentials to say --virtualization-type=hvm | 20:13 |
| danp | you mean the ability to directly register images as HVM? | 20:13 |
| smoser | on a register. | 20:13 |
| smoser | yeah. | 20:13 |
| smoser | now... | 20:13 |
| smoser | if you want to try to be tricky.. | 20:13 |
| danp | I don't believe I need that if I do some hackery and run CreateImage against a running/stopped instance | 20:13 |
| hallyn | smoser: utlemming: no, --hostname/-H doesn't conflict with an arg, but it does conflict with an option you can specify inthe config file | 20:13 |
| smoser | (i've wanted someone to do this, and only tried once or twice because failures cost $2.8 or whatever it is). | 20:14 |
| smoser | http://paste.ubuntu.com/834399/ | 20:15 |
| smoser | danp, i recently did that on HP public cloud, which basically replaced a running oneiric instance with a precise instance. | 20:15 |
| smoser | you could follow that and get into a root fs from an ephemeral disk and populate the clean root ebs. | 20:16 |
| smoser | but the times i've tried, there was mysterious failure | 20:16 |
| smoser | hallyn, right. which doesn't make much sense. and cloud-init will read `hostname` fine. so i dont think you nee dthat | 20:17 |
| smoser | utlemming, you have funny indentation in that | 20:17 |
| danp | smoser: my plan has been to run a cc1.4xl using the AWS AMI, stop it, detach the root EBS, attach a prepped EBS at /dev/sda1 (can't attach to just /dev/sda), then run CreateImage against it | 20:17 |
| hallyn | smoser: keep the rest? | 20:17 |
| smoser | danp, yeah, that did not work for me. | 20:18 |
| smoser | it does seem like it should | 20:18 |
| smoser | and i'm interested in knowing if it does for you. | 20:18 |
| danp | could probably ask AWS for the ability to register HVM directly as well. but it would be nice to not need that | 20:18 |
| smoser | hallyn, well, do you pick up a dependency on 'bc' for that ? | 20:18 |
| smoser | danp, i honestly do not know anything about this, but i suspected when my start/stop/detach/attach/register failed, that the failure was intentional | 20:19 |
| hallyn | stgraber: note that we have things like net-device-added lo which still could stand to have lxcguest | 20:19 |
| stgraber | hallyn: not in precise though | 20:20 |
| smoser | hallyn, other comments on that patch there are to not use full paths to files | 20:20 |
| danp | smoser: yeah, my guess would be not being able to attach the partitioned EBS to /dev/sda. it shows up in the AWS AMI DescribeImage block device mapping as /dev/sda1 though. not sure | 20:20 |
| smoser | trust PATH | 20:21 |
| hallyn | smoser: utlemming: anything wrong with just uuidgen | cut -c -8 ? | 20:22 |
| danp | smoser: please forgive my bzr ignorance, I've run `bzr branch lp:~ubuntu-on-ec2/ubuntu-on-ec2/ec2-publishing-scripts` and `bzr branch lp:~ubuntu-on-ec2/vmbuilder/automated-ec2-builds` and I don't see hvmify in either of those | 20:22 |
| hallyn | stgraber: not for runlevel 2, but ther emight be something out there waiting for lo? or not? | 20:22 |
| smoser | danp, its part of ec2-image2ebs | 20:23 |
| danp | got it. thanks! | 20:23 |
| stgraber | hallyn: all initscripts I saw so far are explicitly ignoring lo for net-device-up | 20:23 |
| hallyn | ok | 20:24 |
| stgraber | hallyn: I'd really like to see lxcguest go away completely, if that becomes a problem, I'd rather have the hack part of ifupdown/upstart than in lxcguest | 20:24 |
| hallyn | excellent | 20:24 |
| hallyn | then away it goes | 20:24 |
| stgraber | yeah! | 20:24 |
| hallyn | can anyone explain why i can read paste.ubuntu.com jsut fine, but when i hit 'downlaod as text' i have to go through auth? | 20:24 |
| stgraber | IIRC it's to avoid using paste.ubuntu.com for file storage | 20:26 |
| stgraber | by making it difficult to retrieve the raw data | 20:26 |
| danp | smoser: I see now. I was hoping to find a script that installed the backported kernel and all that as well. would that have been done with the way these tools were run to create that image? | 20:30 |
| hallyn | is uuid-runtime always present? | 20:32 |
| smoser | danp, well we dont install a backported kernel. | 20:33 |
| smoser | but just mount the image chroot (modify /etc/resolv.conf) and apt-get install stuff | 20:33 |
| danp | smoser: oh, but it looks like this is lucid with a kernel PPA added and linux-image-3.0.0-12-virtual installed from there. was wondering exactly how that was done so I could replicate it as closely as possible | 20:45 |
| smoser | ah. you booted the lucid sandbox one i uploaded once. | 20:48 |
| smoser | i created that like this: | 20:49 |
| smoser | http://paste.ubuntu.com/834442/ | 20:49 |
| danp | smoser: yeah. that's the only lucid HVM AMI available, right? | 20:49 |
| danp | outstanding! thank you very much | 20:49 |
| smoser | yes, but note the 'sandbox' in its name | 20:49 |
| danp | understood | 20:50 |
| adam_g | anyone happen to know the significance of the difference in the return code of the same 'ip addr add' command (2 vs 254) on two different systems: http://paste.ubuntu.com/834454/ | 20:55 |
| adam_g | glancing thru the iproute source, i was only to find this :) http://paste.ubuntu.com/834456/ | 20:56 |
| utlemming | hallyn: regarding uudigen....I really don't have much preference, just generating a random id | 21:02 |
| hallyn | utlemming: cool, will do the shorter thing then | 21:03 |
| hallyn | waiting to test (libc6 upgrade is slowing me down) | 21:03 |
| stgraber | hallyn: lxcguest-free world -15min ;) | 21:45 |
| stgraber | hallyn: it's upstart o'clock ;) uploading now | 22:02 |
| stgraber | hallyn: uploaded | 22:05 |
| axisys | how do I remove md3 and add the slices to md2 to increase the raid10? | 22:10 |
| axisys | md2 : active raid10 sdg1[4] sdc1[0] sdd1[1] sdh1[5] sdf1[3] sde1[2] | 22:10 |
| axisys | md3 : active raid10 sdh2[3] sdf2[1] sdg2[2] sde2[0] | 22:10 |
| hallyn | stgraber: sorry, how does http://people.canonical.com/~serge/lxc.debdiff look? | 22:21 |
| hallyn | zul: hm, that test also fails with 0.9.8 | 22:23 |
| hallyn | zul: so, if libvirt is treating you all right today and tomorrow... maybe we should push 0.9.9. <cringe> | 22:23 |
| zul | i havent had any problems with lxc i havent tried with kvm yet | 22:24 |
| hallyn | ok. | 22:24 |
| hallyn | utlemming: /etc/apt/sources.list has http://ubuntu-mirror.localdomain/ubuntu . that's kinda useless in no-cloud situation | 22:25 |
| utlemming | hallyn: yes it does | 22:25 |
| utlemming | s/does/is | 22:25 |
| hallyn | what's the easiest way to have it use deafult mirror there you think? | 22:26 |
| hallyn | /etc/cloud/templates/sources.list.tmpl | 22:26 |
| hallyn | ? | 22:26 |
| utlemming | hallyn: well, cloud-init is the one doing it, so I think a cloud-config line | 22:26 |
| hallyn | that would look like what? | 22:27 |
| utlemming | hallyn: one minute... | 22:27 |
| utlemming | hallyn: right under my "#cloud-config:" line, you want to add, "apt_mirror: <URL>" | 22:28 |
| utlemming | hallyn: methinks that reading the host machines /etc/apt/sources.lists and fetching the URL out of there would be the most prudent course of action | 22:28 |
| hallyn | utlemming: that seems a bit fragile (who knows which line to use). There is a MIRROR option in /etc/default/lxc. Use that if set, else use archive.ubuntu.com? | 22:33 |
| utlemming | hallyn: I like that idea. | 22:34 |
| CharlieSu | Hi all. I'm using a preseed file to automate my Ubuntu installation for a bunch of computers. Everything works wonderfully, but I'm looking for a strategy to give each computer a unique hostname automatically. Anyone do something like this ever? Possibly based off of the MAC address? | 22:34 |
| hallyn | utlemming: testing, will show you debdiff before i push | 22:35 |
| utlemming | hallyn: sounds good | 22:35 |
| hayer | How can I set up shared directories in pure-ftpd-mysql? | 22:36 |
| stgraber | hallyn: sorry for the delay, was dealing with upstart FTBFS because of the new libc ;) | 22:44 |
| stgraber | hallyn: looking now | 22:44 |
| hallyn | stgraber: fwiw i'm stil making changes to the lxc-ubuntu-cloud template, but not touch lxcguest | 22:47 |
| stgraber | hallyn: ok. The diff looks good, I'll just check with the actual code next to it though ;) | 22:49 |
| hallyn | stgraber: ? | 22:51 |
| stgraber | hallyn: right, looks good (wanted to check what else was in that else/elsif and make sure it was indeed only the code installing lxcguest) | 22:51 |
| hallyn | ah ok | 22:57 |
| stgraber | hallyn: new libnih was uploaded which once build will fix upstart's own build, so in an hour or so everything should be built | 23:08 |
| stgraber | hallyn: upstart built fine on i386 though, so you can use that for testing (once it's published) | 23:08 |
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| hallyn | utlemming: http://people.canonical.com/~serge/lxc.debdiff works for me (tm) | 23:38 |
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| utlemming | hallyn: looks good to me | 23:40 |
| hallyn | stgraber: so I'm pushing lxc? | 23:41 |
| stgraber | hallyn: yep, I expect upstart amd64 to start building in the next 10min or so | 23:42 |
| hallyn | lxc is away | 23:45 |
| stgraber | hallyn: cool! | 23:53 |
| hallyn | stgraber: bug 929086 has me confused | 23:58 |
| uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 929086 in lxc "Missing depends: dnsmasq" [High,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/929086 | 23:58 |
| hallyn | (it *is* listed in Depends) | 23:59 |
| stgraber | hallyn: yeah, doesn't make any sense :) | 23:59 |
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