[00:10] <brousch> they say you were too old?
[00:12] <tjagoda> The reasoning was that they had applicants with higher levels of direct launchpad experience
[00:12] <tjagoda> Which obviously translates to: Contribute the SHIT out of Launchpad
[00:15] <rick_h> tjagoda: sorry man
[00:16] <tjagoda> rick_h: Just make tons of bugs so that they have to hire MORE support people
[01:04] <snap-l> I have been cut
[01:04] <snap-l> hair cut, that is
[01:19] <rick_h> woot
[04:57] <greg-g> rick_h: have you ordered any replacement thinkpad nipples?
[04:57] <greg-g> rick_h: on amazon they are $0.63 but with $5 shipping (ugh)
[04:57] <greg-g> rick_h: should I just bit the bullet and do it?
[05:47] <snap-l> greg-g: r get prime shipping
[11:03] <Wolfger> Just had a fellow SCA member share a picture of his shield with me. Thought some of you modern-day geeks might get a kick out of it too: http://i.imgur.com/Lt9kN.jpg
[11:04] <mydogsnameisrudy> morning
[11:30] <rick_h> greg-g: yes, I've bought them a few time, and yea, I just look at it like "would I spend $5 ina store for them...yep"
[11:37] <rick_h> and morning
[12:20] <snap-l> Good morning
[12:21] <snap-l> Something tells me QR codes aren't canonical for SCA. ;)
[12:23] <snap-l> "I am Sir. Twaddleputt. I have come to avenge my ancestors. Learn more at http://ur1.ca/twaddleputt"
[12:36] <Wolfger> LOL
[12:36] <Wolfger> good morning
[12:36] <Wolfger> (now that I'm at work, it's officially morning)
[12:43] <Wolfger> Uh-oh. rick_h might become a SOPA supporter now....
[12:43] <Wolfger> SOPA is “like dealing with a lion which escaped from the zoo by blasting some kittens with a flamethrower”. http://www.linuxuser.co.uk/opinion/piracy-and-the-value-of-freedom/
[12:47] <rick_h> missing the connection
[12:48] <Wolfger> your distaste of all things cat
[12:48] <Wolfger> nevermind. It was weak humor at best
[12:51] <rick_h> sorry, too early for it
[13:08] <snap-l> Good morning from the other screen
[13:10] <rick_h> hah
[13:10] <snap-l> (s)
[13:25] <snap-l> http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-93DMm8HYg60/TyiRwI9jRlI/AAAAAAAABHQ/2XwrI0Vzjvo/s1600/Battle-Shots.jpg
[13:25] <rick_h> brilliant!
[13:26] <snap-l> Not sure how this works, though; does the person who made the shot get the drink, or does the opponent take the shot?
[13:29] <rick_h> I think it's when you guess a hit, you take that shot
[13:29] <rick_h> so if you lose, you're wasted
[13:29] <rick_h> a couple of games of that and you're in for a rough night
[13:30] <snap-l> Yeah, they mention it's shots of beer
[13:30] <rick_h> ah, ok, well that's not quite century club level then
[13:30] <snap-l> hard liquor, and you'd be toast after finding the carrier
[13:31] <snap-l> Hell, I'd be toast after finding the sub. ;)
[13:31] <rick_h> lol, all depends on what's in the shots I guess
[13:32] <snap-l> 151, of course. Gotta have the flames of victory
[13:32] <rick_h> woooo!
[13:32] <snap-l> and belches you can ignite.
[13:35] <Wolfger> sounds like a good Penguicon game
[13:35] <Wolfger> shots of 151, when your opponent scores a hit on you, light the shot and shoot it
[13:36] <Wolfger> and keep the fire extinguishers handy!
[14:00] <Wolfger> Man, I've been getting tons of +'s on my comments on jcastro's post about Episode I. :-)
[14:00] <rick_h> ok, funny https://twitter.com/#!/FOSSNewsChannel/status/164852353760100353
[14:00] <jcastro> I <3 that account
[14:01] <Wolfger> huh. link gives me blank twitter page
[14:01] <Wolfger> what's most surprising is that Twitter isn't blocked completely
[14:02] <rick_h> jcastro: heh, just saw it because it was RT. Looks funny
[14:14] <rick_h> krondor: CHC tonight just a reminder/heads up
[14:20] <snap-l> FOSS News = followed
[14:23] <krondor> rick_h: thanks for the reminder, hoping to make it.
[14:28] <krondor> lack of a work proxy and moved to rbenv and I have a working ruby env
[14:28] <Wolfger> snap-l, jcastro, and all other metal heads: Groupon for Megadeth, etc at the Palace http://goo.gl/nrkly
[14:28] <jcastro> IF ONLY I LIVED HERE
[14:29] <krondor> my spouse grabbed a bunch of vouchers for that when she was at MSU credit union.  $10 lower bowl or soemthing.
[14:30] <snap-l> Oh, nice!
[14:30] <jcastro> nice!
[14:30] <jcastro> I've never seen Lacuna Coil live
[14:30] <snap-l> Wonder if it's not selling well
[14:30] <snap-l> first time I've ever seen a groupon for a concert
[14:31] <jcastro> me too
[14:31] <jcastro> megadeth sold out by themselves last time
[14:31] <snap-l> Though you have to get it at the palace box office
[14:31] <jcastro> but then again that was 20th ann. of Rust in Peace
[14:31] <snap-l> Something tells me that'll be a clusterfuck
[14:32] <jcastro> I hate long concerts now
[14:32] <jcastro> I am too old to sit through 4 bands
[14:32] <Wolfger> snap-l: I've done a groupon through the Palace box office, no issues at all
[14:34] <Wolfger> One of the local MMA promotions started doing Groupons for their Palace shows. It was pretty cool. Just walked up to the window with groupon and ID and they handed me my tickets.
[14:35] <snap-l> There's a big difference between MMA and Megadeth
[14:44] <Wolfger> I would imagine so
[14:44] <brousch> i seem to be a decent logo maker, but i sure can't design a pretty web site
[14:44] <Wolfger> More people waiting in that line
[14:46] <Wolfger> brousch: just make your website consist of a giant logo and nothing else? ;-)
[14:46] <brousch> that might work
[15:04] <brousch> ah, ok, found a blue theme that is much nicer
[15:04] <rick_h> heh, wasn't that the about.me theory
[15:04] <rick_h> your design is one large photo
[15:05] <snap-l> Penguicon registration page is up
[15:12] <Wolfger> woo
[15:12] <Wolfger> t
[15:12] <Wolfger> So, here's today's CNN poll: "Should welfare recipients be banned from spending federal aid in strip clubs and casinos?"
[15:13] <Wolfger> 93% say yes, which tells me that a whole lot of people really haven't thought this thing through.
[15:18] <snap-l> Hah, apparently gpodder is brain-dead
[15:18] <snap-l> one of my listeners complained that he got a .zip file of ogg files for Episode 40
[15:19] <snap-l> apparently gpodder doesn't adhere to the enclosure tag, and just downloads extensions it recognizes
[15:19] <snap-l> which would happen to be this link: http://www.archive.org/download/Metal-libreAlbums/Raze-ManVsMachineogg.zip
[15:38] <brousch> ok, i need to scrape this web page and extract the information from each meeting into a CSV or something. is beautifulsoup still the best thing? http://www.grpug.org/meetings/
[15:40] <brousch> i cannot pull directly from the database because it is GAE. i need to upload something to that, but the old GAE django patches are so broken i cannot upload anything
[15:42] <rick_h> brousch: yea, BS or you can always go node.js and parse with a JS library :P
[15:43] <brousch> why would i do that?
[15:44] <rick_h> brousch: because you can treat it like a web page with js selectors
[15:45] <rick_h> doing things like $('.class').each() .... or Y.all('.class')...
[15:45] <brousch> maybe, but my javascript skills are about 10% of my python skills
[15:46] <jrwren> step up your js skills.
[15:49] <snap-l> Man, Windows is definitely not Linux
[15:49] <snap-l> especially when it comes to Python
[15:50] <jrwren> truth.
[15:50] <jrwren> but what specifically?
[15:50] <snap-l> YAML and Crypto libraries that require compliation. :)
[16:46] <brousch> this web page parsing is fun
[16:47] <rick_h> brousch: you serious or sarcastic
[16:47] <rick_h> I think most of us would assume the latter having done screen scraping in the past
[16:47] <brousch> no, it is fun when it goes well
[16:47] <brousch> i have hit a wall though. the meeting abstracts have no unique div and have 0-4 <p>s
[16:48] <brousch> i will just manually hack something in
[17:03] <mydogsnameisrudy> join #kubuntu-offtopic
[17:07] <greg-g> no thanks
[17:09] <rick_h> hah
[17:10] <rick_h> greg-g: did you order your replacement nipple covers?
[17:11] <mydogsnameisrudy> hmmm strange asking about nipple covers
[17:12] <rick_h> only on Tues, it's Wed
[17:12] <mydogsnameisrudy> day dont matter its still strange
[17:13] <rick_h> :)
[17:16] <greg-g> rick_h: not yet :)
[17:16] <greg-g> the amazon tabs are still open
[17:16] <rick_h> greg-g: I got these last time: http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B005ZYXBEI/ref=wms_ohs_product
[17:16] <rick_h> not sure which cover is your usual
[17:17] <rick_h> also gotten the official lenovo box, but I don't care for half of the types
[17:20] <greg-g> rick_h: I'm a soft cap, apparently
[17:21] <greg-g> though, haven't tried the others, but I like the cat-tounge feel
[17:22] <rick_h> yea, that's my fav
[17:26] <rick_h> snap-l: for you https://twitter.com/#!/buckleysangel/status/167173562623467520
[17:41] <snap-l> http://magnatune.com/artists/albums/llatb-punkinst/ <- Album I'm going to pillage like a mofo for Lococast interstitials
[17:41] <rick_h> hah
[17:42] <snap-l> rick_h: Yes, yes, yes!
[17:42] <snap-l> ECSYMASCRIPT!
[17:50] <Wolfger> mydogsnameisrudy must not be familiar with Penguicon if he thinks that's strange...
[17:52] <greg-g> Wolfger++
[17:53] <Wolfger> You coming back to MI for pcon, greg-g?
[17:53] <greg-g> I wish
[17:56] <Wolfger> Maybe after the baby's a bit older (e.g. no longer a baby)...
[17:57] <greg-g> or when I have enough of a reason to get PC or work to pay for it :)
[18:00] <snap-l> greg-g: WE'll get you on as a GoH
[18:00] <greg-g> plz do!
[18:00] <snap-l> "greg-g makes Creative Commons tick, sing, and dance"
[18:01] <rick_h> "especially dance!"
[18:01] <Wolfger> Speaking of Penguicon, next Friday night is their "bring a friend" party at the new con hotel. Grab somebody you think might like p-con, and drag 'em to the party.
[18:01] <snap-l> http://www.reddit.com/r/java/comments/pghyp/homework_replace_a_word_in_a_line_of_text/
[18:02] <snap-l> I so want to write this guy a solution that shells out through bash, python, and perl
[18:02] <snap-l> if for nothing else than for putting his code in an image file
[18:03] <rick_h> hah
[18:04] <Wolfger> :-)
[18:21] <snap-l> My Answer: http://paste.mitechie.com/show/MdotgxtgvmsLS6WNr2YL/
[18:21] <snap-l> Even better, it doesn't actually work
[18:31] <brousch> whoa, cool https://www.browserstack.com/features
[20:25] <snap-l> Gah
[20:25] <snap-l> CoffeeScript also includes a Ruby idiom of allowing suffixed if statements:
[20:25] <snap-l> alert "It's cold!" if heat < 5
[20:25] <snap-l> Ruby idiom? RUBY IDIOM?
[20:25] <snap-l> Perl was suffixing when suffixing wasn't cool.
[20:26] <snap-l> Perl suffixes better than any other language I know
[20:26] <snap-l> suffix this!
[20:27] <brousch> looks annoying
[20:28] <snap-l> Trust me, it's handy
[20:29] <snap-l> Good for those single-line if statements
[20:29] <snap-l> die "Bizarro world" if 1==2
[20:30] <brousch> fun times when that 1 liner becomes 2
[20:31] <snap-l> Nah, it's simple:
[20:31] <brousch> THERE SHOULD BE ONE WAY TO WRITE IFS
[20:31] <snap-l> a = 5 if b == 2
[20:31] <snap-l> becomes
[20:31] <snap-l> flag = true if b == 2
[20:31] <snap-l> if flag:
[20:31] <snap-l>   a = 5
[20:31] <snap-l>   c = 3
[20:31] <snap-l> ;)
[20:31]  * snap-l is a smart-ass today.
[20:43] <jrwren> snap-l: its amazing how many rubyists never did perl.
[20:43] <jrwren> they think its new.
[20:43] <jrwren> they don't realize its just a copy of perl only prettier.
[20:44] <jrwren> do { line1;line2; } if 1==2
[20:44] <jrwren> snap-l: but if that is from coffeescript docs, keep in mind coffeescript was initially written in ruby.
[21:04] <snap-l> jrwren: Yeah, I know
[21:04] <snap-l> Just sets my teeth on edge when I hear something like that.
[21:05] <jrwren> i'm with ya.
[21:05] <jrwren> same with node.
[21:05] <jrwren> i talk to these people who are gaga about node.
[21:05] <jrwren> and I say "so its twisted or POE"
[21:05] <jrwren> and they give me this blank look.
[21:05] <jrwren> and I roll my eyes
[21:05] <snap-l> hah
[21:05] <snap-l> No, Node is the first async
[21:05] <snap-l> Node created async. :)
[21:06] <jrwren> k
[21:06] <jrwren> now... they actually DO have a point, that by not having any sync IO calls, they cna do it better.
[21:07] <jrwren> e.g. POE and twisted still use blocking file operations that are ultimately open/read/write(2)
[21:07] <snap-l> Right
[21:07] <snap-l> But just because you do it better doesn't mean you invented it
[21:07] <jrwren> right
[21:08] <snap-l> Ford applied the assembly line successfully to the automobile, but didn't invent either
[21:09] <jrwren> right
[21:09] <jrwren> and really? is disk IO with node that great? I know net is, because of they way they use socket and their libev equivalent
[21:09] <jrwren> but disk?
[21:10] <jrwren> do they open with O_ASYNC and their loop checks for SIGIO ?
[21:10] <jrwren> or do they have a SIGIO handler?
[21:10]  * jrwren goes and looks
[21:12] <jrwren> oh... node IS on libev. fuk i had no idea.
[21:12] <jrwren> i thought they had their own event loop.
[21:12] <jrwren> fuk the node fans harder. i'm less impressed
[21:13] <jrwren> and libev has async file io.
[21:13] <jrwren> wow, awesome.
[21:13] <jrwren> and... a perlmod.  ev.pod
[21:13] <jrwren> LOLz
[21:14] <jrwren> given this new information, i shall now call node a port of ev.pod to v8/js :)
[21:14] <jrwren> LUST!!!! https://github.com/kersny/libuv-csharp
[21:16] <snap-l> jrwren: You're mean. :)
[21:16] <jrwren> i tweeted a summary of our conversation
[21:16] <jrwren> i'm mean.
[21:17] <snap-l> hah
[21:21] <snap-l> Gah, I'm irritated
[21:22] <snap-l> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pinball_Hall_of_Fame:_The_Williams_Collection <- Wii version gets Jive Time and Sorceror, PS3 and XBox versions get Arabian NIghts, Medieval Madness and No Good Gofers
[21:22] <snap-l> Two tables that I love (MM and NGG) aren't on the Wii version