[00:00] <holstein> is syncing when you plug a cable from the phone to the computer thetinyjesus ? .. i havent had to do that in years.. i wouldnt expect ubuntu to be able to do anything to "fix" iOS
[00:00] <thetinyjesus> fans*
[00:00] <iceroot> thetinyjesus: because i believe in freedom
[00:00] <lehzeni> thetinyjesus, have you tried the "gnupd" package?
[00:00] <lehzeni> "gnupod"
[00:00] <dragonfly> Roxy`, I'll post a couple links I found:
[00:01] <thetinyjesus> holstein: i can get the ipod to mount, i can transfer the songs ON the ipod to my computer but if i try to sync a song to the iphone it says it works but doesn't show up on the iphone
[00:01] <iceroot> thetinyjesus: there are solutions (see ubottu ) but i dont want to spent time to support unfree things (sorry)
[00:01] <holstein> thetinyjesus: it doesnt have to be anything personal... you can use what you like, and should... but dont expect unsupported OS's to be able to support the iOS platform
[00:01] <dragonfly> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1308521
[00:01] <diverdude> cfhowlett, they are homemade...i want standard ubuntu icons
[00:01] <john_doe_jr> if I want a script to do several things do I just use the && statement to join all the commands that I would normally type @ the command line?
[00:01] <iceroot> thetinyjesus: if we support something like apple-stuff there will never be a change with ther evil politic (itunes and so on)
[00:01] <cfhowlett> diverdude: are you trying to install them in a NOT ubuntu OS??
[00:01] <lehzeni> thetinyjesus, that's because the song has to be added to the daatabase in the iphone. which was one of the things gnupod used to take care of
[00:02] <dragonfly> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=8246179
[00:02] <thetinyjesus> iceroot: that wouldn't be for the worse, many people would be happen if they could loosen their grip a little
[00:02] <diverdude> cfhowlett, homepage
[00:02] <thetinyjesus> happy* sorry im blazed
[00:02] <holstein> thetinyjesus: one of the first LUG presentations i hosted was about how to sync ipods in linux.. the presenter used banshee and several other tools with success
[00:02] <dragonfly> maybe one of those will hlep
[00:02] <iceroot> thetinyjesus: the best would be "noone would use things which take away your freedom
[00:03] <cfhowlett> diverdude: I think this is what you're seeking:  http://design.canonical.com/the-toolkit/ubuntu-brand-guidelines/
[00:03] <iceroot> Roxy`: maybe richard stallman is sometimes very strange but he is right about what he is saying
[00:03] <manoerafa> chanserv
[00:03] <iceroot> Roxy`: sorry wrong nick
[00:03] <iceroot> thetinyjesus: ^
[00:03] <cfhowlett> diverdude: http://design.canonical.com/brand/Logos/
[00:04] <thetinyjesus> iceroot: i've owned the HTC hero, evo, samsung galaxy S2, and vanilla android with their baby phone and none of them seemed to just work like the iphone
[00:04] <iceroot> thetinyjesus: as i said, i dont like apple, i will not support there products
[00:04] <cfhowlett> thetinyjesus: see @apple "think different"
[00:04] <iceroot> thetinyjesus: and i will not support apple-stuff here
[00:04] <cfhowlett> iceroot: nor should we
[00:04] <iceroot> thetinyjesus: see what ubottu tells you, the solution is there
[00:05] <iceroot> thetinyjesus: but see the true, apple is evil because they take away your freedom, you cant use there products with everything and i dont see a reason why we should support it
[00:05] <iceroot> thetinyjesus: but that is just my opinion and i am speaking not for #ubuntu
[00:05] <don_ace> hii
[00:05] <lehzeni> thetinyjesus http://freecode.com/projects/gnupod
[00:05] <graft> err, hate to buzzkill, but shouldn't this be in #ubuntu-offtopic?
[00:06] <don_ace> hey people :)
[00:06] <cfhowlett> don_ace: greetings
[00:06] <iceroot> graft: freedom should be always ontopic :)
[00:06] <thetinyjesus> iceroot: i see your point, but i cannot express my feelings when i have a device that crashes or freezes from doing simple tasks
[00:06] <thetinyjesus> lehzeni: going to check it out now ty
[00:06] <don_ace> kann wer deutsch
[00:06] <don_ace> hallo leute
[00:07] <iceroot> !de | don_ace
[00:07] <graft> iceroot: mayhap, but channel bandwidth is limited, and this channel does have a purpose
[00:07] <iceroot> thetinyjesus: you looked the links from ubottu ?
[00:07] <dragonfly> iceroot, just to put things in perspective, offering support using apple products with ubuntu here would not necessarily be promoting apple, but rather providing a service to those who wish to migrate towards open solutions (such as android and ubuntu) but currently have apple devices
[00:07] <thetinyjesus> iceroot: yeah i've been checking everywhere possible for days
[00:08] <iceroot> dragonfly: i dont see why people should migrate if we help them to use there unfree stuff
[00:08] <Deithrian> Is there a way to make Ibus to work with Opera browser?
[00:08] <don_ace> can anyone help me
[00:08] <iceroot> thetinyjesus: ok
[00:08] <don_ace> im searching for a social channel in german
[00:08] <iceroot> !ask | don_ace
[00:08] <iceroot> !alis | don_ace
[00:09] <don_ace> iceroot ftw! :)
[00:09] <don_ace> omg
[00:09] <thetinyjesus> iceroot:  the problem is as of right now they only know how the library system works in ios 4.3.5 and under they haven't figured out 5.0 yet and of course the iphone 4s will not go back to ios 4
[00:09] <don_ace> this bot is a god
[00:09] <don_ace> omfg
[00:09] <don_ace> hou epic is this bot programmed
[00:09] <don_ace> :OOO
[00:09] <don_ace> never seen before
[00:09] <iceroot> thetinyjesus: then i guess you cant use your apple-stuff with ubuntu
[00:09] <don_ace> can anyone help me ?
[00:10] <iceroot> don_ace: read what ubottu told you about "alis"
[00:10] <thetinyjesus> iceroot: i figured thats why i partitioned windows with another media partition for music/movies so i can download everything on linux and when needed sync with win7
[00:10] <don_ace> wtf
[00:10] <don_ace> i dont understand
[00:10] <don_ace> by
[00:10] <cfhowlett> !enter|don_ace
[00:10] <cfhowlett> !ask|don_ace
[00:11] <thetinyjesus> iceroot: i just recently started linux like two weeks ago i'm not that great yet just getting the feel of it but so far i love it, no crashes got all hardware working and enjoying how you can customize literally everything
[00:11] <dragonfly> iceroot, I'm referring to if someone has say an iPod touch...perhaps they are interested in switching from windows to ubuntu....if they can still use the device they currently have (iphone, touch, etc) it can put a taste in their mouth for the free stuff and perhaps their next device will be android....but if they can't even do something as simple as use their ipod with ubuntu then why woudl they want to continue using ubuntu because every
[00:11] <dragonfly> thing "just works" with their ipod and windows
[00:11] <riyonuk> How would I configure Ubuntu to use a static IP (like 192.168.1.1) or something?
[00:12] <lehzeni> ethtool
[00:12] <iceroot> dragonfly: its just my opinion and maybe you are right but i will never support using apple-products (on ubuntu or somewhere else)
[00:12] <holstein> thetinyjesus: maybe you can move this sync up into an account.. you should ask in the apple channels about how that would work... i use google music on my android phone.. everything is synced over the internet
[00:12] <dragonfly> .....the issue is not whether ubuntu has an obligation to support apple products, but rather that perhaps the "community" should step-up and fill in a void where apple refuses to cooperate and be of any help whatsoever
[00:12] <thetinyjesus> dragonfly: thats why you do what i did and just partition the drive so you save all your media there and dual boot win/linux and both OS can share that partition
[00:13] <thetinyjesus> dragonfly: and when needed for the one or two tasks linux cannot work with at the moment, you have a backup plan
[00:13] <dragonfly> thetinyjesus, i agree and I have used a similar solution myself, but for the less technical user, it would be better if that was unnecessary...imo
[00:13] <thetinyjesus> dragonfly: agree im not a computer tech or anything just really a hobby on the side i enjoy
[00:14] <daniel_> hi folks
[00:14] <ironshoehat> Hi
[00:14] <thetinyjesus> holstein: hey man can you point me into the right direction which server/channel for that?
[00:16] <dragonfly> iceroot, I have a similar philosophy in that I don't necessarily like apple products and wouldn't recommend or promote their use....however, I will "support" their use (to whatever limited extent I can) on Ubuntu simply by way of if someone has an ipod they should still be won over to Ubuntu
[00:17] <ActionParsnip> dragonfly: you can access NTFS from Ubuntu so just have your NTFS mount at boot and symlink to the folder
[00:17] <iceroot> dragonfly: and i thing the only way to stop this products is not to support them and dont help people to use something like that
[00:17] <ActionParsnip> dragonfly: I'm the same way about apple + support. I hate apple
[00:17] <iceroot> dragonfly: but as i said, this is just my opinion and not everyone would like that opinion and of course everyone is free to help others on that topic
[00:18] <thetinyjesus> ActionParsnip: the problem is apple doesn't just say put the artist in a folder like you would think, the folder name along with song title are all coded in numbers
[00:18] <ActionParsnip> thetinyjesus: afaik rhythmnbox does something magical, I believe amarok can manage them too
[00:19] <iceroot> dragonfly: and the main-reason why i am using GNU/Linux is not because its free (as in free beer) not because its "cool" just because its FREE (as in free speech)
[00:19] <thetinyjesus> ActionParsnip:  i can view EVERYTHING on my iphone but have no friggin clue what the song is, and yes i can transfer the songs INTO rhythmnbox but i cannot transfer back onto the iphone
[00:19] <iceroot> !free
[00:19] <lehzeni> thetinyjesus, if you had a separate ipod (any model) for music, you could convert it to RockBox firmware, which is superior and much easier to use from linux
[00:19] <thetinyjesus> lehzeni: i would do it if it wasn't my phone lol i cant risk that
[00:20] <lehzeni> thetinyjesus, that's why I said a separate ipod
[00:20] <ActionParsnip> thetinyjesus: could always run Windows in the closed source virtualbox. If companies don't support Linux I suggest you don't buy their kit
[00:20] <iceroot> ActionParsnip: +1
[00:20] <ActionParsnip> thetinyjesus: Kodak also refuse to support Linux
[00:21] <ActionParsnip> thetinyjesus: as do Logitech
[00:21] <cfhowlett> kodak = bankrupt
[00:21] <thetinyjesus> ActionParsnip: kodak sucks and is about to go under cant see why they wouold
[00:21] <ActionParsnip> thetinyjesus: its an example
[00:21] <dies_irae> what package for flash?
[00:21] <dragonfly> i often wonder what companies gain or save by not supporting linux...especially hardware manufacturers
[00:22] <dies_irae> shit be crashing like crazy!!
[00:22] <thetinyjesus> ActionParsnip: i know but a bad decision haha, btw i never ran virtual box does it work off an existing windows install or is it like booting into a live cd
[00:22] <cfhowlett> !flash|dies_irae
[00:22] <dies_irae> gnash?? lolololol!!
[00:22] <pangolin> dies_irae: please mind your language
[00:22] <lehzeni> thetinyjesus, does your iphone allow you to import *free* music without using itunes store?
[00:22] <iceroot> installing nonfree virtualbox with windows (licence needed) to add music to a phone.......
[00:23] <thetinyjesus> lehzeni: well i
[00:23] <thetinyjesus> lehzeni: you mean like torrented music and putting it on without using itunes?
[00:23] <cfhowlett> thetinyjesus: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dnUrqcD4W_M
[00:23] <lehzeni> no, I meant legally free music
[00:24] <thetinyjesus> hmm closest to that was downloaded mixtapes off datpiff.com
[00:24] <ActionParsnip> dies_irae: if you run PPC or ARM cpu you will need it (or another alternative)
[00:24] <thetinyjesus> they are legal
[00:24] <dies_irae> cfhowlett: that does not tell how to upgrade
[00:24] <dog> Need assistance with a Ubuntu 11.10 64-bit install
[00:24] <ActionParsnip> lehzeni: http://www.google.co.uk/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=legal%20torrents&source=web&cd=3&ved=0CEIQFjAC&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.legittorrents.info%2F&ei=tsAxT4nDKojDhAeNy7CQBQ&usg=AFQjCNHeJSJlEf-iz3LEnaAONa4LJ_lPlg
[00:24] <iceroot> ActionParsnip: no flash for ppc or arm?
[00:24] <ActionParsnip> iceroot: not as far as I knw
[00:24] <lehzeni> so the phone itself was able to import the mp3 (or whatever) files?
[00:24] <ryan__> How much space does Ubuntu 11.10 take up on a hard drive compared to Windows XP?
[00:25] <cfhowlett> dies_irae: http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/flash
[00:25] <Roxy`> Anyone know any iso to usb software out there?
[00:25] <ActionParsnip> ryan__: my full unity install is about 3.something Gb
[00:25] <iceroot> ryan__: 4-7GB
[00:25] <ActionParsnip> ryan__: with all the codecs and office you can want
[00:25] <cfhowlett> Roxy`: startup disk creator comes with buntu
[00:25] <urlin2u> ryan__, ubuntu about 2.7 gigs stock XP as in ##windows
[00:25] <philipballew> can someone tell me if something looks funky http://pastebin.com/bHDQuRnT with my hd's configuration so I can reinstall grub
[00:25] <thetinyjesus> cfhowlett: thanks i will check it out when i get back have to leave in a minute
[00:25] <visual1ce> hi
[00:25] <urlin2u> ask*
[00:26] <Roxy`> cfhowlett: Thats for if I want to put ubuntu on another computer...
[00:26] <thetinyjesus> cfhowlett: btw how do i open the link easy? im using weechat
[00:26] <ActionParsnip> dog: ask away
[00:26] <Roxy`> cfhowlett: I don't want to put ubuntu on another computer, this is for awhole other operating system.
[00:26] <cfhowlett> Roxy`: http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=unetbootin&source=web&cd=1&ved=0CDMQFjAA&url=http%3A%2F%2Funetbootin.sourceforge.net%2F&ei=RsExT8SPHbL-iQKRwszMCg&usg=AFQjCNFG2iJy14ueI6PKA0HBkn1cP-KoBg&cad=rja
[00:27] <visual1ce> every now and then my mouse doesn't work properly - the cursor moves but I can't click anything. it's a g5 mouse connected to my laptop. also is there any way to disable/reenable touchpad when a mouse is connected/disconnected?
[00:27] <cfhowlett> Roxy`: sorry ...unetbootin
[00:27] <ActionParsnip> cfhowlett: annoying isn't it
[00:27] <ActionParsnip> cfhowlett: duckduckgo doesn't do that :)
[00:27] <Roxy`> Unetbootin? Really? It'll burn a windows iso to a usb?
[00:27] <cfhowlett> ActionParsnip: fatfingerinputerror
[00:27] <dog> tried 3 downloads and burned 3 different disks but my quad core, 64-bit Acer gets a little way into the install and quits with a black screen
[00:27] <Roxy`> Last I tried it made a linux startup LOL
[00:27] <ActionParsnip> Roxy`: it doesn't 'burn' it per se. It just transfers the files and add a boot loader
[00:27] <dies_irae> x64
[00:27] <dies_irae> I do have it in the sources
[00:28] <ActionParsnip> dog: what video chip do you use?
[00:28] <Roxy`> ActionParsnip: That's the problem. I don't need unetbootin to give the windows iso a LINUX bootloader LOL! It never worked that way
[00:28] <cfhowlett> Roxy`: windows has a usb burn tool you know...(forgive Sir Stallman for the heresy I'm about to commit: http://www.microsoftstore.com/store/msstore/html/pbPage.Help_Win7_usbdvd_dwnTool)
[00:29] <dog> AMD Radeon????
[00:29] <tecnopoly_cl> hologram android uu
[00:29] <ryan__> ActionParsnip: So basically, Oneiric takes up more space than Windows XP?
[00:29] <tecnopoly_cl> ;)
[00:29] <iceroot> ryan__: no
[00:29] <finish06> !next White Collar
[00:29] <Roxy`> I can't stand ubuntu anymore... It never has the drivers you need so I am going back to Windows 7 Ultimate XD
[00:29] <iceroot> ryan__: but ubuntu does come with additional software windows does not so you cant comapre
[00:30] <tecnopoly_cl> hologram android Cool
[00:30] <lehzeni> Roxy`, why not try a different distro first, or maybe a even a different nix?
[00:30] <tecnopoly_cl>  hologram
[00:30] <ryan__> iceroot: I just looked up how much space XP takes up online, and it appears XP takes up about 2 gb, while Ubuntu 11.10 takes up 4-7 gb of available hard drive space.
[00:30] <nils_> Roxy`: at least the money for the license isn't going to waste then
[00:30] <dog> parsnip:  it loaded up 10.04 LTS without problems.  running it now
[00:30] <iceroot> ryan__: and i told you why
[00:31] <stevecam> im trying to install zsnes through synaptic but its telling me that it wants to remove other packages like ubuntu-desktop, vlc and devede, why is this happening?
[00:31] <ActionParsnip> ryan__: a little but if you install office, DVD playback and ALL the other apps in XP you are going to start pushin past the 10Gb mark easilyt
[00:31] <iceroot> ryan__: e.g. ubuntu has a office suite, pdf viewer and so one
[00:32] <ActionParsnip> ryan__: a stock install is pretty small, only a coule of Gbs
[00:32] <ActionParsnip> *couple
[00:32] <ActionParsnip> ryan__: so your comparison is flawed
[00:32] <iceroot> ryan__: so you cant compare the 2gb from xp with the 4-7 gb from ubuntu
[00:32] <Stygian> anyone here able to help with a booting issue?
[00:32] <Roxy`> cfhowlett: You gave a usb/iso piece of software from microsoft and I am stuck in linux LOL! Nice.
[00:32] <ActionParsnip> dog: add the boot option:  nomodeset
[00:32] <ryan__> Thanks, ActionParsnip and iceroot!
[00:32] <iceroot> Roxy`: try dd, maybe the ms isos can handle it
[00:33] <Roxy`> I just need something that will "burn" the iso to the usb drive
[00:33] <iceroot> Roxy`: try dd, maybe the ms isos can handle it
[00:33] <lehzeni> Roxy`: no dvd drive?
[00:33] <Roxy`> lehzeni: On a netbook.
[00:33] <ActionParsnip> dog: the video timings have moved inside the kernel in the newer versions and sometimes the option is needed. The newer version with its differing kernel is why you are having the problem.
[00:34] <dog> Thanks AP.  I'll drop out of here and give it a try.
[00:34] <cfhowlett> stevecam: that is very strange and should not be happening
[00:34] <lehzeni> Roxy`: do netbooks have usb ports?
[00:34] <Antunes> alguem do brasil
[00:34] <tecnopoly_cl>  hologrmas free at
[00:34] <cfhowlett> !br|antunes
[00:34] <ActionParsnip> Roxy`: unetbootin will put the ISO on a USB stick or SD card etc and allow you to then install Ubuntu from it
[00:34] <Roxy`> lehzeni: I had windows 7 starter on it at first, and I don't know what made me want to put Ubuntu on it and I have a long history of having hell with linux and drivers. And yes netbooks have usb ports XD
[00:34] <stevecam> cfhowlett, is it possible to just prevent this?
[00:34] <lehzeni> Roxy`: there are a lot of fine usb dvd drives
[00:34] <ActionParsnip> lehzeni: ive never seen a netbook without usb ports
[00:34] <Roxy`> ActionParsnip: I am trying to get AWAY from ubuntu not put it on there, thats what am stuck with
[00:35] <Roxy`> XD
[00:35] <cfhowlett> stevecam: installing via software center???
[00:35] <stevecam> synaptic
[00:35] <Canadian1296> I know I should ask to ask questions, but aI have a security question for Ubuntu 11.10. Should I ask it here or is there a deticated security channel?
[00:35] <Canadian1296> **shouldn't
[00:35] <ActionParsnip> Roxy`: you could setup a PXE server and install over network. The usb install is a LOT quicker
[00:35] <iceroot> Canadian1296: you found a security issue?
[00:35] <urlin2u> Stygian, whats going on?
[00:35] <Canadian1296> iceroot: No, i have a question about making my install more secure
[00:35] <ActionParsnip> Canadian1296: oneiric is supported here, ask away
[00:35] <iceroot> Canadian1296: then use this channel
[00:36] <Stygian> urlin2u, I just installed 11.10 on my samsung rv520 laptop and when it reboots it won't boot off hard drive I get the bios boot menu
[00:36] <Stygian> and when I choose for it to boot off the hdd it just reboots back to the boot menu
[00:36] <stevecam> cfhowlett, im using a 64-bit machine if that makes any difference, an i7
[00:36] <cfhowlett> stevecam: screenshot @ http://imagebin.org/?page=add
[00:36] <urlin2u> Stygian, you have more then one HD?  Did you install from windows 2 questions here
[00:36] <Stygian> no and no
[00:36] <Stygian> it's a laptop
[00:37] <urlin2u> Stygian, you install using a usb and have you tried to see if it got the grub bootlader rather the laptop?
[00:38] <lehzeni> Roxy`: sorry. the idea was you burning it to a usb dvd burner and then booting the microsoft install from the burner
[00:38] <urlin2u> then*
[00:38] <Stygian> urlin2u, I installed via dvd/cd
[00:38] <Stygian> and what you mean if it got the grub bootloader rather the laptop
[00:39] <urlin2u> Stygian, easiest way to getto the bottom of this is with a script I will trigger the boot to give you the links
[00:39] <urlin2u> !bootscript > Stygian
[00:39] <urlin2u> !boot
[00:40] <urlin2u> Stygian, sorry here it is. http://bootinfoscript.sourceforge.net/
[00:40] <Canadian1296> Alright, I'm messing around with installing Ubuntu in virtualbox (Mac OS X Lion host) so I can get comfortable with the process (im installing it on a second computer im getting soon). Just wondering, currently I have a /boot partition, and an encrypted lvm partition (with swap, / (system), and /home virtual partitions on it). How would I put the boot partition on an external source (ex. a usb) so the computer won't boot without 
[00:40] <Canadian1296> attached? Yes, the whole setup is paranoid, I'm just trying to learn
[00:40] <leeping> Hi there, there is something wrong with Evolution, I already tried restarting the computer.  How do I delete the temporary files (excluding the whole mailbox)?
[00:40] <stevecam> cfhowlett, http://imagebin.org/197841
[00:41] <h00k> leeping: what is the 'something wrong' with evolution you're trying to fix?
[00:41] <h00k> !broken | leeping
[00:41] <leeping> h00k, when I click on the listing of message titles, the message does not appear in the preview pane.
[00:41] <urlin2u> Stygian, the bootscript is what you want pastebin the results text made from running it.
[00:41] <ActionParsnip> Canadian1296: the default install is pretty well setup. Just stick to using sudo when needed and you'll be ok
[00:42] <cfhowlett> stevecam: what version of ubuntu are you running?
[00:42] <leeping> I already asked how to delete the temporary files, that was my proposed fix :)
[00:42] <ActionParsnip> Canadian1296: you could use ufw to configure a firewall etc
[00:42] <stevecam> cfhowlett, 11.10
[00:43] <Canadian1296> ActionParsnip: Okay I'll do both, any other tips? I'm looking for over the top paranoid security here :P
[00:43] <ActionParsnip> leeping: bleachbit ran as root and user can clear temp files well, watch settings for apps and avoid options which say they will take a long time
[00:43] <dcosta> hi
[00:43] <ActionParsnip> Canadian1296: could use tor proxy if your tinfoil hat collection is vast
[00:43] <Roxy``> dd? whats dd?
[00:43] <lehzeni> a cli command
[00:43] <cfhowlett> stevecam: NO WAY should a game emulator (ZNES) require this kind of configuration.  IDK WHY it's requesting what you see, but something is VERY wrong.  DO NOT proceed.  But if have to have ZNES, install it inside a virtual machine in Virtual box.
[00:43] <Stygian> urlin2u ok give me a few minutes
[00:44] <urlin2u> Stygian, cool. :)
[00:44] <ActionParsnip> stevecam: zsnes is on the playonlinux ppa, dead easy to install
[00:44] <leeping> ActionParsnip, I will try that, thank you :)
[00:44] <Canadian1296> ActionParsnip: is there any way to force all outgoing connections through tor, or would I have to manually configure every application?
[00:44] <ActionParsnip> leeping: have as many apps CLOSED as you can to unlock files,
[00:44] <Roxy``> lehzeni: Is there a gui program I use to burn an iso the usb drive?
[00:44] <stevecam> looks like human error
[00:44] <zykotick9> ActionParsnip: assuming you use 32bit, for 64bit zsnes is a big "issue".  I stopped using it.
[00:44] <lehzeni> Roxy``: for example "dd if=infile of=/dev/sdx bs=1M count=filesize"
[00:44] <ActionParsnip> Canadian1296: there are guides online but you can make it the system wide setting
[00:45] <Canadian1296> okay, ill google it
[00:45] <ActionParsnip> Canadian1296: why so paranoid?
[00:45] <ActionParsnip> zykotick9: its the 'advised' install so I'll take a punt :)
[00:45] <leeping> ActionParsnip, evolution isn't on here. :)
[00:45] <tecnopoly_cl>  hologrmas free at
[00:45] <cfhowlett> tecnopoly_cl: stop
[00:45] <leeping> wait
[00:45] <ActionParsnip> leeping: dang
[00:45] <lehzeni> Roxy``: you don't need a gui program to do it. Don't know if it will boot that way though
[00:45] <kloppy> Hi, can someone tell me how to increase and decrease luminosity because the "Fn" buttons do not work ?
[00:45] <tecnopoly_cl> ok
[00:45] <leeping> never mind, it was automatically hidden
[00:45] <leeping> hold on
[00:46] <tecnopoly_cl> clue
[00:46] <joe_____> hello
[00:46] <ActionParsnip> leeping: have evolution closed first and READ everything so you can see what you are using
[00:46] <JPeterson> I'm getting Waiting up to 60 more seconds for network configuration every time i boot 11.10 after an upgrade
[00:46] <JPeterson> after that the netowrk wors though
[00:46] <JPeterson> works
[00:46] <ActionParsnip> JPeterson: wired or wireless?
[00:46] <Canadian1296> ActionParsnip: Cause I can be :P I'm setting this up in virtualbox, which isnt ideal, but I just want to learn as much about security like this as I can. Better to be too paranoid than not paranoid enough :)
[00:46] <JPeterson> wired
[00:46] <Roxy``> lehzeni: Just need a way to burn the iso to the usb drive. The windows 7 ultimate iso. I don't need a bootloader at all. My machine will automatically read it and boot from it.
[00:46] <JPeterson> acmeinc1:
[00:46] <JPeterson> ActionParsnip:
[00:46] <FloodBot1> JPeterson: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[00:46] <joe_____> do you have any interfaces configured that timeout?
[00:46] <JPeterson> joe_____: i'll check
[00:47] <ActionParsnip> JPeterson: is the cable ok? Have you tried a different port on the router?
[00:47] <stevecam> cfhowlett, would it be possible it be the conflicts with the x86 and the 64bit libs? or does it not happen like that
[00:47] <ActionParsnip> JPeterson: have you tried setting manual IP on the interface?
[00:47] <JPeterson> ActionParsnip: i'll try
[00:47] <leeping> ActionParsnip, the problem appears to be fixed :)
[00:47] <leeping> thank you so much.
[00:47] <lehzeni> Roxy``: then "dd if=infile of=/dev/sdx bs=1M count=filesize", where sdx is the sd name of the usb drive and filesize is the number of megabytes round up
[00:47] <cfhowlett> stevecam: as good as an explanation as any...IDK
[00:48] <ActionParsnip> leeping: np man, bleachbit is powerful but it can delete a lot of stuff you want (like firefox configs for example)
[00:48] <ActionParsnip> lehzeni: will need sudo too ;)
[00:48] <stevecam> lol ok i think my safest bet would be like you said, ruin it in an emulator
[00:48] <leeping> Right - hopefully it only deletes what it says :)
[00:48] <lehzeni> I do important things like that from root :)
[00:48] <Roxy``> lehzeni: Linux/Ubuntu is a bitch. XD I'll go with windows any day. LOL!
[00:48] <cfhowlett> stevecam: go for it.
[00:48] <zykotick9> stevecam: i used to love zsnes, but you should consider it a 32bit only program.  Look for an alternative.
[00:49] <iceroot> Roxy``: please go to ##windows
[00:49] <ActionParsnip> Roxy``: thats fine, we don't need telling
[00:49] <joe_____> why zyk? do you really need 64 bits to emulate 16?
[00:49] <gms> Roxy`` u poor misguided mouse clikerer.
[00:49] <lehzeni> Roxy``: then just bring up a terminal window and try that dd command (with sudo I guess)
[00:49] <iceroot> gms: no need that here
[00:49] <stevecam> zykotick9, synatpic doesnt come up with anything else when i type in snes
[00:50] <ActionParsnip> Roxy``: why you won't use unetbootin is anyones guess, you are making the whole process harder for yourself. Go figure
[00:50] <gms> oh humer is not allowed?
[00:50] <cfhowlett> ActionParsnip: +1
[00:50] <gms> iceroot ???
[00:50] <ActionParsnip> gms: humour
[00:50] <Ben64> ActionParsnip: humor
[00:51] <zykotick9> stevecam: perhaps ubuntu doesn't have another option?  you might want to go beyond the ubuntu walls on this one.
[00:51] <iceroot> gms: feeding the trolls is not allowed in here
[00:51] <ActionParsnip> Ben64: its french based, so it has the u in
[00:51] <joe_____> SNES9x is aiight
[00:52] <Ben64> as an aside, unetbootin never yields positive results for me
[00:52] <joe_____> it should be in apt repos
[00:52] <Canadian1296> is "sudo aptitude install --without-recommends ubuntu-desktop" the best way to install a gui without all the extras, or is there a better way?
[00:52] <joe_____> unetbootin is fine, just build from iso
[00:52] <joe_____> the builtin auto stuff is wacky
[00:52] <ActionParsnip> Canadian1296: sudo apt-get install lxde lightdm   works here :)
[00:52] <gms> i was trying to be funny. obvously its not allowed here
[00:52] <Ben64> joe_____: yeah doesn't work
[00:53] <Canadian1296> ActionParsnip: Okay, thanks :)
[00:53] <joe_____> i use the server install and then put KDE on it
[00:53] <ActionParsnip> joe_____: why not just install kubuntu?
[00:53] <joe_____> too bloated
[00:54] <ActionParsnip> joe_____: the minimal ISO has an option for a minimal kde afaik
[00:54] <EvilResistance> joe_____, um... "bloated" how?
[00:54] <joe_____> for me, not that it is bad or anything
[00:54] <Roxy``> 1.8 MB/sec XD lovely download speed
[00:54] <Roxy``> XD
[00:54] <joe_____> lot's of apps i dont need or use
[00:54] <joe_____> lots*
[00:54] <EvilResistance> joe_____, the minimal installation might be better for ya, actually
[00:54] <marabi2> hello
[00:54] <joe_____> the other issue is LVM
[00:54] <EvilResistance> it doesnt come with extra crap
[00:54] <EvilResistance> s/extra/lots of extra/
[00:54] <lehzeni> Roxy``: usb thumbdrives aren't the fastest
[00:54] <joe_____> server makes LVM easier
[00:54] <joe_____> and i use preseed options
[00:54] <cfhowlett> marabi2: greetings
[00:55] <joe_____> im weird...
[00:55] <JPeterson> ActionParsnip: how do i know what eth# I have?
[00:55] <JPeterson> for "iface eth# inet dhcp"
[00:55] <Roxy``> lehzeni: Long as I get windows 7 ultimate back on these laptops thats fine LOL!
[00:55] <joe_____> sudo /sbin/ifconfig -a
[00:55] <marabi2> hey how are you doing cfhowlett?
[00:55] <iceroot> is there a way to get the changelog from a package "foo" from another ubuntu-release? e.g. something like "apt-get changelog foo -r natty" something like that i am searching for (without editing my sources.list)
[00:56] <ActionParsnip> JPeterson: sudo lshw -C network     will tell you
[00:56] <cfhowlett> marabi2: you have a question for us?
[00:56] <Roxy``> lehzeni: I just have to go through the hell of putting everything back on it again
[00:56] <lehzeni> JPeterson: type "ifconfig", it will tell you what you've got
[00:56] <ActionParsnip> Roxy``: that's all?
[00:56] <JPeterson> ActionParsnip: thx
[00:56] <marabi2> no i don"t
[00:56] <Canadian1296> Another question… How do I put the /boot partition on a seperate drive (like removable usb) instead of on the main harddrive? I have no problem with doing a fresh install if necessary.
[00:56] <cfhowlett> !home|canadian1296
[00:56] <joe_____> boot?
[00:57] <Ben64> Canadian1296: why would you want to?
[00:57] <zykotick9> cfhowlett: /home != /root
[00:57] <joe_____> i dont that's a good idea canadian
[00:57] <zykotick9> cfhowlett: sorry s/root/boot/
[00:57] <joe_____> a partition for boot, yes
[00:57] <iceroot> Canadian1296: dd /boot to the other drive
[00:57] <cfhowlett> zykotick9: you're right.  /retracting highly questionable "advice"
[00:57] <Roxy``> ActionParsnip: Yep! I migrated from Windows 7 starter on the netbook to ubuntu and killed 4 hours looking for drivers and stuff I couldn't find.. And when I was in Windows I had no trouble, which I am STILL trying to wonder what made me switch. -_-
[00:58] <Canadian1296> Ben64: I'm just experimenting in virtualbox, so it doesnt matter how bad I mess things up. I'm just wondering if its possible.
[00:58] <Ben64> moving /boot seems like a great way to break a system
[00:58] <cfhowlett> Roxy``: please go to ##windows
[00:58] <Stygian> urlin2u I can't download that file
[00:58] <Stygian> everytime I connect the laptop it locks up my router
[00:58] <zykotick9> Ben64: agreed
[00:58] <JPeterson> ActionParsnip: the problem was that my eth2 was renamed eth0 after the upgrade, with /etc/network/interfaces left unchanged
[00:58] <joe_____> it is possible, but it will break easily Canadian
[00:58] <joe_____> say you loose the usb drive
[00:58] <urlin2u> Stygian, you need to do it on a live ubuntu cd.
[00:58] <Stygian> urlin2u I k now
[00:59] <joe_____> you'll have to recreate boot and install grub natively
[00:59] <Stygian> I am booted into a live ubuntu cd
[00:59] <urlin2u> Stygian, can you share why.
[00:59] <Stygian> and it's locking up my router when it connects to the network
[00:59] <zykotick9> JPeterson: was this a VM install at one point?  UDEV will change the /dev/ethX if the MAC address has changed.
[00:59] <ActionParsnip> Roxy``: http://dl.dropbox.com/u/8850924/downloadspeed.JPG  50Mb link :)
[00:59] <JPeterson> zykotick9: it's a vm install now
[00:59] <ActionParsnip> Roxy``: 100% of my hardware works out of the box
[00:59] <Canadian1296> joe___: Assuming I don't loose the usb drive, how would I go about doing it?
[00:59] <Canadian1296> **lose
[00:59] <lehzeni> Stygian: number one cause of locked up routers is duplex-mismatch
[01:00] <Scunizi> Why is it I have issues playing a google voice message and getting an occasional white screen when looking at google maps while using Chrome (daily) and or Chromium? Firefox just keep chugging along with no issues.
[01:00] <zykotick9> JPeterson: there is some way to reset the UDEV rule, sorry i haven't had to do it, so don't know the specifics
[01:00] <urlin2u> Stygian, not sure why iot is justa web link.
[01:00] <ActionParsnip> JPeterson: you can edit the system so it gets named to eth0
[01:00] <JPeterson> zykotick9: thx
[01:00] <urlin2u> it*
[01:00] <JPeterson> ActionParsnip: ok
[01:00] <joe_____> JPeterson, look in /etc/udev/rules.d
[01:00] <Stygian> urlin2u, are yuou not reading what I type all the way
[01:00] <JPeterson> joe_____: thx
[01:00] <ActionParsnip> JPeterson: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1393346
[01:00] <joe_____> you should have something like 70-net-persistent.rules
[01:00] <Stygian> the file cannot be downloaded because I cannot connect the laptop to the internet
[01:00] <Stygian> when I do it locks up my router
[01:01] <joe_____> just delete all lines after the comment block
[01:01] <Stygian> lehzeni duplex-mismatch?
[01:01] <urlin2u> Stygian, yes it helps when you use my nic though.
[01:01] <tylerl> My USB headset (logitech h555) sounds super quiet under Ubuntu. Increasing the volume above 100% just blows it out and it still sounds quiet. Can I change which driver it uses to perhaps a generic one?
[01:01] <Roxy``> ActionParsnip: I even had the partition from the HP factory to restore my original os back but ubuntu took that XD
[01:01] <joe_____> and reboot
[01:01] <cfhowlett> tylerl: same model but not the problems...
[01:01] <Scunizi> tylerl: install pavcontrol and check the levels through that.. it was my answer
[01:01] <lehzeni> Stygian: duplex is usually caused by the net card set to full-duplex and the router being only half-duplex
[01:02] <Toftor> Hi all! Help please!
[01:02] <cjaredrun> sure thing!
[01:02] <cfhowlett> tylerl: might have to manually change your sound preferences/hardware/input/output
[01:02]  * cjaredrun gives a serving of help to Toftor 
[01:02] <urlin2u> Stygian, we are going to have problems working together I can tell so good luck others will help you. :)
[01:02] <Roxy``> ActionParsnip: LOL! What kind of connection you have?
[01:02] <Roxy``> XD
[01:02] <cfhowlett> !ask|toftor
[01:02] <joe_____> Stygian ethtool should help you diagnose
[01:02] <EvilResistance> Toftor, WITH WHAT?
[01:02] <EvilResistance> ugh caps
[01:02] <ActionParsnip> Roxy``: 50Mb fibre afaik
[01:02] <tylerl> Scunizi: pavcontrol? is that the package name? It doesn't show up in synaptic
[01:02]  * EvilResistance beats his keyboard
[01:02] <cjaredrun> beat it good
[01:03] <Roxy``> ActionParsnip: I am using the university of california's connection lol
[01:03] <cjaredrun> yeah... just like that
[01:03] <Scunizi> tylerl: Pulse Audio Volume control.. might have misstyped the actual package name.
[01:03] <Stygian> lehzeni, router is in full duplex
[01:03] <ActionParsnip> Roxy``: XP doesn't have much life in it btw, it will be EOL soon
[01:03] <cfhowlett> tylerl: pavucontrol
[01:03] <Stygian> lehzeni and it works just fine when the laptop was in windows
[01:03] <Toftor> How to recover a logical partition ext4?
[01:03] <lehzeni> Stygian: how about your net card's duplex settings?
[01:03] <Stygian> joe_____ it's wifi not eth0
[01:03] <ActionParsnip> Toftor: possibly foremost
[01:03] <Roxy``> ActionParsnip: Lol, no I am putting Windows 7 Ultimate on the netbook and also on this laptop as well.
[01:03] <Toftor> OMGHELPPLZ!
[01:03] <cfhowlett> !shout|toftor
[01:03] <joe_____> what do you mean logical partition.  do you mean logical volume under LVM?
[01:03] <JPeterson> How do I make regular link? not a symlink? (ctrl + shift makes  asymlink)
[01:03] <Stygian> lehzeni full
[01:03] <urlin2u> Toftor, a extended is only a container for logicals...etc
[01:04] <Roxy``> ActionParsnip: Not XP lol
[01:04] <ActionParsnip> Toftor: please try and wait more that 120 seconds before re asking, it floods the channel. You are asking the same people the same question
[01:04] <Chotaz> how do i do a recursive scan on a dir to find a specific file extensioN?
[01:04] <joe_____> ln command, jpete
[01:05] <Ben64> Chotaz: find <dir> | grep -i .jpg$
[01:05] <ActionParsnip> JPeterson: you could make a hard link if you omit the -s option
[01:05] <Toftor> How to recover a logical partition ext4?
[01:05] <ActionParsnip> Toftor: I already told you
[01:05] <Scunizi> Chotaz: guessing here.. ls -r (or -R) *.<extension>
[01:05] <ActionParsnip> Toftor: your backups will be a much better way too
[01:05] <JPeterson> ActionParsnip: I mean not a hard or sym link, a link that leads to the path
[01:05] <joe_____> why do you need a hard link, JPete? ln is for hard ln -s is soft
[01:05] <nils_> Toftor: what do you mean by recover?
[01:05] <Toftor> how recover!?!?!?
[01:06] <JPeterson> (like a windows .lnk if that helps)
[01:06] <joe_____> Toftor, what do you mean by logical partition?  Do you mean LVM LV>?
[01:06] <Toftor> How to recover a logical partition?
[01:06] <Toftor> ext 4 there are
[01:06] <ActionParsnip> JPeterson: what are you trying to achieve? If you link a folder and double click the link (which will appear as a folder) you will then start to navigate down the new path
[01:06] <joe_____> what does fsck.ext4 say, Tofter?
[01:06] <ActionParsnip> Toftor: foremost, it's an app. Use it
[01:06] <Raymond_> anybody here have experience setting up phpbb 3.0
[01:07] <Toftor> what are you kidding? :(
[01:07] <ActionParsnip> Toftor: why are you askimng so much?
[01:07] <ActionParsnip> Toftor: no, its a data recovery app
[01:07] <ActionParsnip> Toftor: why do you not have a backup?
[01:07] <JPeterson> ActionParsnip: I want to jump to a folder in nautilus. if it doesn't work just say it.
[01:07] <johndoe_> hi, does anyone know how to restore notify-osd as the default? I installed xubuntu-desktop and know the xfce notifier is used even while on a unity session
[01:08] <ActionParsnip> JPeterson: yes, a symlink will do exactly that
[01:08] <joe_____> you can create a symlink soft and it will do that JPete
[01:08] <ActionParsnip> Toftor: why do you not have a backup?
[01:08] <zykotick9> JPeterson: doesn't nautilus have bookmarks?  And a symlink does sound like what you want.
[01:08] <JPeterson> ActionParsnip: no it doesn't
[01:09] <joe_____> i still want know what a logical partition is lol...
[01:09] <ActionParsnip> JPeterson: run:   ln -s $HOME/Pictures ~/Desktop/Pictures     Then on the desktop double click the Pictures folder
[01:09] <zykotick9> joe_____: a partition inside an extended partition
[01:09] <JPeterson> zykotick9: how do i place a bookmark on the desktop for example?
[01:09] <_Marcus> Is there a command line only version of Linux?
[01:09] <_Marcus> Wait
[01:09] <_Marcus> Not linux
[01:09] <ActionParsnip> Toftor: why do you not have a backup?
[01:09] <_Marcus> Ubuntu
[01:09] <FloodBot1> _Marcus: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[01:09] <ruger2824> good evening
[01:09] <zykotick9> JPeterson: i doubt you can.  Use a symlink.
[01:09] <cfhowlett> !server|_marcus
[01:09] <_Marcus> Besides Ubuntu Server
[01:09] <ActionParsnip> _Marcus: server or minimal
[01:10] <urlin2u> joe_____, yeah it's a secret not available on the web.
[01:10] <joe_____> nothing really logical about that, unless it is LVM
[01:10] <_Marcus> I need to compile something, I just dont want GUI
[01:10] <_Marcus> And I tried server
[01:10] <cfhowlett> !mini|_marcus
[01:10] <_Marcus> Doesn't work
[01:10] <ActionParsnip> _Marcus: add the boot option: text   and it will not load the desktop
[01:10] <_Marcus> How do I do that?
[01:10] <ActionParsnip> _Marcus: you can then remove it and boot the desktop as normal
[01:10] <joe_____> i know of LPARs, but that is way different
[01:11] <ActionParsnip> _Marcus: add it in /etc/default/grub  in the quotes with:  quiet splash    then run:  sudo update-grub    reboot to test
[01:11] <JPeterson> ActionParsnip: that brings me to ~/Desktop/Pictures not $HOME/Pictures
[01:11] <tylerl> cfhowlett: You said yo uhave the h555 headphones? Do you have the version where you can unplug the headphone/microphone line from the USB box, or do you have the newer one where you can't disconnect it?
[01:11] <joe_____> ahh, i get it logical partion is windows terminology...no wonder
[01:11] <Roxy``> lol
[01:11] <cfhowlett> tylerl: USB plu
[01:12] <joe_____> exit
[01:12] <ActionParsnip> JPeterson: yes, but the data is the same data, the path gets modified due to the link
[01:12] <tylerl> cfhowlett: they both have USB plug -- can you unplug your headset FROM the usb box? so the headphones can stand alone?
[01:12] <_Marcus> Where can I get the torrent of Ubuntu?
[01:12] <urlin2u> ubuntu.com _Marcus
[01:12] <zykotick9> joe_____: logical paritions are NOT a windows term
[01:12] <ActionParsnip> JPeterson: if you want the true path you can make a launcher to run something like:  nautilus ~/Pictures     and it will work as you expect
[01:12] <cfhowlett> tylerl: ah.  no
[01:13] <tylerl> cfhowlett: the reason why I ask is my older ones work fine, but my newer ones (same model number, different design) are quiet.
[01:13] <cfhowlett> _Marcus: http://www.ubuntu.com/download/ubuntu/alternative-download#bt
[01:14] <cfhowlett> tylerl: is there hardware volume control
[01:14] <tylerl> cfhowlett: yes.
[01:14] <tylerl> cfhowlett: 100%
[01:14] <ActionParsnip> !torrents | _Marcus
[01:14] <cfhowlett> tylerl: sorry, man.  IDK why it's acting like that
[01:15] <Stygian> urlin2u http://pastebin.com/dtFZsmqv
[01:15] <Stygian> that's the boot script results
[01:15] <artichoku> sup ppl
[01:17] <urlin2u> Stygian, did you make a separate home for ubuntu or install it to one partition
[01:17] <Stygian> I made three partitions /boot / and /home
[01:17] <Stygian> urlin2u, I made three partitions /boot / and /home
[01:19] <urlin2u> stygian idea, just reinstall it in one partition is my advice since it is a fresh install. No boot partition is needed, and ubuntu is setup theses days for a single partition install unless you have to have home separate for upgrades or change of releases, but this is just my opinion
[01:20] <lehzeni> So how is the dd going, Roxy`` ?
[01:20] <Stygian> urlin2u, I like to have /home on a seperate partion just incase os needs to be installed, I don't have to worry about losing everything in /home or need to do a backup
[01:20] <urlin2u> Stygian, if you had a windows OS it is missing boot stuff now as well.
[01:20] <JPeterson> ActionParsnip: ok thx
[01:21] <Stygian> yes I had windows on the drive first
[01:21] <urlin2u> Stygian, never have installed that way so I can't really give advice there.
[01:21] <Stygian> but deleted the partitions then made new ones and formatted them
[01:21] <cordoval> what is the sudo apt-get install exact command for these requirements? +Dom +exif +ftp +gd2 +hash +iconv +xml +mbstring +mysql +pcre +SimpleXML +sockets +xsl +zlib +mail +mcrypt +pdo +CURL +JSON +gettext ?
[01:21] <Tasmania> There is like 1,000 people in here.
[01:22] <ActionParsnip> Stygian: what if the drive motor fails?
[01:22] <urlin2u> Stygian, sda3 is the windows boot partition I believe
[01:22] <Stygian> urlin2u, no that's the system repair
[01:22] <Stygian> to restore the laptop to factory
[01:22] <Tasmania> There's def going to be spam in this room
[01:22] <Poliwag> Hi, does anyone have time to answer a few questions for a newbie looking to sharpen up his skills?
[01:22] <bazhang> Tasmania, actual support question?
[01:23] <ActionParsnip> Tasmania: with spambots and floodbots and ops. I would be suprised
[01:23] <urlin2u> Stygian, ah I see the recovery, now that will be a challenge to get to work.
[01:23] <lehzeni> Poliwag: why not?
[01:23] <bazhang> cordoval, tab-complete them
[01:23] <cfhowlett> Stygian: you do have re-installation media, right??
[01:23] <cordoval> bazhang: it is very ambiguous
[01:23] <ruger2824> anyone know a commandthat will display the ip address on a remote ssh user?
[01:23] <Stygian> cfhowlett, yeah but none of the drivers or the software the pc comes with
[01:23] <rone-> hey guys, i'm having some trouble trying to kickstart a box.  i have a preseed.cfg that works fine in lucid, but gets stuck at partman in oneiric
[01:23] <Stygian> which is not a big deal really
[01:23] <rone-> the preseed is at http://ennui.org/preseed.cfg.txt
[01:24] <bazhang> cordoval, it's something you can answer, not a single answer applies
[01:24] <cordoval> like ~ sudo apt-get install zlib
[01:24] <cordoval> zlib1g      zlib1g-dbg  zlib1g-dev  zlib-bin    zlibc       zlib-gst
[01:24] <cfhowlett> Stygian: you have to request it from the OEM company.  If you're dual booting, I highly recommend it.
[01:24] <cfhowlett> !paste|cardoval
[01:24] <Poliwag> How do i got about getting started in joining an open source project?
[01:24] <urlin2u> Poliwag, this is support really.
[01:24] <Stygian> cfhowlett, I have the recovery disc
[01:24] <Stygian> that they send out
[01:24] <bazhang> cordoval, tell the channel exactly what you are trying to achieve first
[01:24] <Stygian> and im not going to dual boot
[01:24] <Stygian> it's going to be a 100% linux desktop laptop
[01:25] <cfhowlett> Stygian: not the same thing - but ok
[01:25] <cordoval> bazhang: just getting the exact command for ubuntu for fulfilling this requirement here https://docs.phraseanet.com/en/Admin/Prerequisite.html
[01:25] <bazhang> !contribute > Poliwag
[01:25] <bazhang> cordoval, to achieve what exactly
[01:25] <urlin2u> Stygian, better pray that, that recovery will trigger the recovery on the HD if thats your plan in the end
[01:25] <cordoval> to be able to install the software phraseanet
[01:26] <cordoval> https://docs.phraseanet.com/en/Admin/Prerequisite.html
[01:26] <JPeterson> vmsync is not running after 11.10 upgrade
[01:26] <Stygian> urlin2u, whys that? worse case is like cfhowlett said order the cd from samsung
[01:26] <cfhowlett> Stygian: I triple boot.  Ordered ALL the install media from Dell and killed the recovery partition.
[01:26] <Guest77817> test
[01:27] <ActionParsnip> !test | Guest77817
[01:27] <urlin2u> Stygian, a install disc is what you want a oem without the extra stuff is best.
[01:27] <Chucky_Luciano> hi guys..  quick ques:  did they ever finish ubuntu service panel 3?  i have searched everywhere
[01:27] <Stygian> urlin2u that's what i already have
[01:28] <Stygian> I think I will do what cfhowlett suggestioned, order the media disc from samsung and just wipe all partitions
[01:28] <bazhang> Chucky_Luciano, you mean for 10.04 ?
[01:28] <urlin2u> Stygian, cool you called it a recovery and uyou have a recovery on the hd do you see the difficulty in interpreting your sistuation or intentions.
[01:28] <Tasmania> There's def going to be spam
[01:28] <urlin2u> in the end Stygian
[01:28] <Canadian1296> For anyone who wasn't here before, I'm doing this in virtualbox so I don't have to worry about messing up. I was reading a forum online and someone mentioned dual booting (both linux), with a fully encrypted drive and decryption keys on a different drive. If no key drive is available it boots to one the first os, and the other one isnt available as it is still completely encrypted. If the key drive is plugged in, it decrypts the 
[01:28] <Canadian1296> boots to it. (note the plausable deniability)
[01:28] <bazhang> Tasmania, dont add to it
[01:28] <Canadian1296> Any pointers about how to do this?
[01:29] <ActionParsnip> Canadian1296: true, you can make a backup of your disk image and restore if things go screwy
[01:29] <Stygian> urlin2u, yees because there's a restore partition and also a restore cd
[01:29] <Stygian> dunno why they gave me both
[01:29] <Canadian1296> ActionParsnip: Exactly. Anyway I want to try that. Any ideas on how?
[01:29] <kah_> Hey I'm getting a window - Unlock Private Key -- Enter password to unlock the private key
[01:30] <kah_> any ideas?
[01:30] <urlin2u> Stygian, I just clone stuff a oem dic most likely will overwrite the whole disc a clone will install what you had same size.
[01:30] <ActionParsnip> Canadian1296: no idea. I steer clear of encrypted drive nonesense, too many headaches
[01:30] <Chucky_Luciano> bazhang, dont matter really...  i am using mint 11 right now which is based on  ubuntu 11.04, and i installed ubuntu system panel 2.01-00, its the latest one i could find...  the mint menu is based on that, but U.S.P. has better customization
[01:30] <cfhowlett> kah_: on boot??
[01:30] <Canadian1296> ActionParsnip: Okay, thanks anyways
[01:30] <Canadian1296> Anyone else?
[01:30] <ActionParsnip> Chucky_Luciano: mint isn't supported here
[01:30] <bazhang> Chucky_Luciano, check in mint support
[01:30] <Chucky_Luciano> but no transparency in v2...  screenshots and videos showing usp3 show transparency
[01:30] <kah_> cfhowlett: just trying to install github
[01:30] <bazhang> !mint > Chucky_Luciano
[01:30] <ActionParsnip> !mint | Chucky_Luciano
[01:30] <jsutho> cw on
[01:31] <cfhowlett> kah_: check the github installation wiki - they require a key
[01:31] <jsutho> cw
[01:31] <Chucky_Luciano> ActionParsnip, and bazhang, i wasnty ashink a mint specific question so no need to sick ubottu on me
[01:31] <Tasmania> There's like 1,400+ people in here.
[01:31] <ActionParsnip> Chucky_Luciano: you are using Mint, mint isn't supported here
[01:31] <Chucky_Luciano> are you going to ban me?
[01:31] <_Marcus> Doesn't Linux Mint use the same packages as Ubuntu?
[01:31] <Tasmania> Almost 1,500
[01:31] <Chucky_Luciano> fine ill leave
[01:31] <Oer> Chucky_Luciano, mint has many differences we dont want to kno
[01:31] <Chucky_Luciano> yes it does marcus
[01:31] <bazhang> Tasmania, yes thats right. no need to count as they come and go
[01:31] <ActionParsnip> Tasmania: come here the day after release, thats when it gets really jumping
[01:31] <Tasmania> Just, 1,496
[01:32] <rone-> guys, i'm having some trouble trying to kickstart a box.  i have a preseed.cfg that works fine in lucid, but gets stuck at partman in oneiric. the preseed is at http://ennui.org/preseed.cfg.txt
[01:32] <Chucky_Luciano> its not like i was asking a question about mint at all
[01:32] <Chucky_Luciano> i was asking a questrion about ubuntu, and about an ubunt package
[01:32] <bazhang> Tasmania, chit chat in #ubuntu-offtopic not here
[01:32] <_Marcus> Chucky_Luciano: Either way, Mint has an IRC chat
[01:32] <bazhang> Chucky_Luciano, packages.ubuntu.com and take a look
[01:32] <cfhowlett> !mint|chuck_luciano
[01:33] <Chucky_Luciano> and if i have a question about mint i will ask it in there..  i was asking a question about ubuntu system panel
[01:33] <Roxy``> I am about to use wine to get a program called isotousb to burn the iso to the usb will wine have trouble noticing my usb drive?
[01:33] <Chucky_Luciano> thanks for the help guys
[01:33] <Tasmania> Sorry if I was annoying you guys
[01:33] <ActionParsnip> Roxy``: why, unetbootin and usb-creator are available an NATIVE
[01:33] <bazhang> Roxy``, no need for that, use the usb creator or unetbootin
[01:33] <Tasmania> I don't know who diconnected my account.
[01:33] <ActionParsnip> Roxy``: why use some windows app via wine, makes no sense at all
[01:34] <Canadian1296> Is there a channel relating to general linux security?
[01:34] <bazhang> Tasmania, lets stop it, you haven't stopped yet
[01:34] <Oer> rone-, at what part you got stuck ?
[01:34] <Tasmania> ^ what?
[01:34] <ActionParsnip> Roxy``: thats about as smart as downloading firefox and thunderbord from the web and runnning those in wine
[01:34] <Roxy``> unetbootin made a linux booter and left the option "Defeult" and I tried to go through to it and it just keeps throwing me back to the same screen for the windows iso
[01:34] <bazhang> !ot | Tasmania
[01:34] <bazhang> Tasmania, chatter goes there. here is support ONLY
[01:34] <Tasmania> bazhang, What did you mean?
[01:34] <ActionParsnip> Roxy``: did you MD5 test the ISO you downloaded?
[01:35] <cfhowlett> !trolling
[01:35] <rone-> Oer, it doesn't automatically use the whole disk. it asks me what i want to do instead.
[01:35] <Tasmania> I'm not a troll.
[01:35] <rone-> on lucid it just goes.
[01:35] <dsplayer14> whats the command used to start ratpoison? Im using ubuntu 11.10 if it matters.
[01:35] <Tasmania> Where do I go for chatter bazhang?
[01:35] <ActionParsnip> Tasmania: #ubuntu+1
[01:35] <Tasmania> I just want to make sure I'm not annoying you guys.
[01:36] <Tasmania> ok
[01:36] <bazhang> #ubuntu-offtopic  <----------------- Tasmania
[01:36] <ActionParsnip> Tasmania: you can chat about anything in there you like :)
[01:36] <bazhang> ActionParsnip, thats not correct
[01:36] <urlin2u> Tasmania, sorry to late no soup for you. :)
[01:36] <Tasmania> Alright bye.
[01:36] <ActionParsnip> bazhang: its close enough to the truth as is needed ;)
[01:36] <urlin2u> lol
[01:36] <Oer> rone-, looks clean and valid to me, so i wonder ..
[01:37] <rone-> Oer, me too. it is frustrating
[01:37] <Bsims> Grr lost system bell on upgrade
[01:37] <Bsims> this is starting to piss me off it will work upgrade gone again, then it comes back for no reason
[01:38] <ActionParsnip> Bsims: which DE?
[01:39] <Roxy``> usb-creator won't even notice the windows iso but it sure in hell picks up on the ubuntu iso though.
[01:39] <ActionParsnip> Roxy``: great isnt it :)
[01:39] <Roxy``> ActionParsnip: Pretty fucked up if you asked me.
[01:39] <Roxy``> LOL
[01:39] <zykotick9> rosseaux: usb-creator is ubuntu only
[01:39] <urlin2u> Roxy``, usb creator is for ubuntu only basically
[01:39] <cordoval> hi I am getting a compilation error
[01:39] <cordoval> compiling a php module undefined reference to `mysql_server_init'
[01:39] <ActionParsnip> Roxy``: it being for ubuntu only and not windows, makes it cool :)
[01:40] <cordoval> anyone has seen that kind of error before?
[01:40] <JPeterson> how do i rebuild /etc/init.d/open-vm-tools?
[01:40] <Roxy``> So looks like Ia m getting wine apparantly.
[01:40] <Roxy``> and getting that windows app for the usb
[01:40] <Roxy``> XD
[01:40] <ActionParsnip> Roxy``: check the appdb, make sure its a compatible app
[01:40] <Oer> rone-, maybe the example @ https://help.ubuntu.com/11.10/installation-guide/hppa/preseed-using.html is any help
[01:40] <nnatomltop> Can some one explain to me why ubuntu went with a program called apt daemon  ... That eats all the cpu and seems to fail at its job half the time.
[01:41] <Bsims> ActionParsnip: kde
[01:41] <ActionParsnip> nnatomltop: what is the output of:  lsb_release -sc
[01:41] <ActionParsnip> Bsims: let me search
[01:41] <Bsims> ActionParsnip: running urxvt
[01:42] <ActionParsnip> Bsims: is pcspkr loaded?
[01:42] <Oer> rone-, look for the section ### Partitioning
[01:42] <Bsims> ActionParsnip: was last I knew let me check
[01:42] <ActionParsnip> Bsims: I suggest you run:   echo "pcspkr" | sudo tee -a /etc/modules     and it will load at start and load the system beep (annoying imho)
[01:43] <Dillman09> I have an Lenovo x200s and havent going from ubuntu 10.4 to 11.10 I have a serious decrease in battery life. I've read all about the kernel bug but havent been able to fix it. i hear its going to be patched in 3.2.5, but I'm not sure if its the same bug. Does anyone have experience with this? or at least have an idea when 3.2.5 is going to be released?
[01:43] <nnatomltop> ActionParsnip, Sadly Apt-Daemon was the last straw for me.  I tried to tolerate ubuntu.  I switched all 4 systems over to Debian. The one last ubuntu system I just kill apt daemon every time it starts up and manually tell apt-get to upgrade.
[01:44] <ActionParsnip> nnatomltop: so why are you here? This is a support channel...?
[01:44] <nnatomltop> ActionParsnip, Because I am hopeing you can give me an idea of how to remove apt-daemon for good from my last remaining system. I don't have time to deal with it.
[01:44] <cfhowlett> Dillman09: lenovo no longer sells that model, so I'm guessing it's old(er) tech.  Strongly suggest you stick with LTS releases and/or consider switching to x/l/buntu as they support lower spec machines
[01:44] <Bsims> ActionParsnip: its loaded now and still nothing
[01:45] <Oer> Dillman09, kernel 3.2x is available in the next version 12.04, i would not advise to use it in 11.10
[01:45] <Bsims> just a second and I'll restart this screen
[01:45] <Bsims> ActionParsnip: thank you it worked
[01:45] <Canadian1296> Booted fresh install of Ubuntu 11.10 (In VirtualBox), decrypted LVM encrypted partition, it said decryption was successful, and now I have (In orange text if it matters) "mountall: Disconnected from Plymouth"
[01:46] <Bsims> lol got to restart screen to get it to take but beep works
[01:46] <ActionParsnip> Bsims: np man, seems weird the module isn't loaded consistantly
[01:46] <Dillman09> it runs a core 2 duo l9400 . should i downgrade back to 10.04 or 10.1? or wait till the new 12.04?
[01:46] <Roxy``> ActionParsnip: appdb?
[01:46] <beata|lemur> *headdesk* I'm not sure where to start. Attempting to get oneiric to run on an Armada E500, possibly the same issues? (I just got in)
[01:46] <ActionParsnip> !appdb | Roxy``
[01:46] <cfhowlett> Dillman09: LTS only is a whole LOT less heartbreaking.  go with 10.04 until 12.04 arrive.
[01:47] <Roxy``> ActionParsnip: Just found out the hardware that wine can't even detect my usb drive, thats REALLY fucked up
[01:47] <ActionParsnip> beata|lemur: if you tell us your issue instead of that stuff, we can help
[01:47] <Dillman09> ok good call i appriciate it
[01:47] <Bsims> ActionParsnip: the ubuntu devs have a nasty jihad against it, as I understand it the beep needed a complete rewrite, as it conflicted with unicode support for international languages
[01:47] <ActionParsnip> Roxy``: please keep the language family friendly
[01:47] <Roxy``> ActionParsnip: what other iso to usb program do you know of?
[01:47] <Dillman09> in terms of 10.04. do you think there are any security concerns for just using that long term?
[01:48] <Bsims> Dillman09: actual vs in theory
[01:48] <Dillman09> ok
[01:48] <Dillman09> good enough
[01:48] <pangolin> How can i get the internal ip of all the devices on my network?
[01:48] <ActionParsnip> Roxy``: 1 2 3 app from pendrivelinux
[01:48] <cfhowlett> Dillman09: 10.40 is LTS so it's supported for 36 months.  12.04 will get 5 year support...
[01:48] <rone-> Oer, thanks, i will check that out, hope it works
[01:48] <ActionParsnip> pangolin: nmap
[01:48] <javier_> Hi! I'm having problems in my laptop (I believe hardware problems) with ubuntu11.10. I runned memtest and reported no errors. If I boot ubuntu or windows7, it takes 30 mins. Now I booted from ubuntu live USB. Someone has an idea what can it mean? Does it tell something about where can be the problem! Appreciate your help!
[01:48] <Roxy``> ActionParsnip: I don't want linux bootloaders on my windows iso startup -_-
[01:49] <Dillman09> what do you say about an in place upgrade from 10.04 to 12.04 when it is released? for whatever reason, i'm always a fan of fresh installs
[01:49] <ActionParsnip> Roxy``: its not something ive had to use. the grub and lilo bootloaders can boot windows
[01:49] <nnatomltop> ActionParsnip, I needed a simple system that my clients can use.  Not one that changes entirely every upgrade.  After ubuntu switched to Unity fully and messed up the updating system.   I had to remove my social and phisical support of the system. I can no longer trust ubuntu.   I seem to still be cleaning up the mess.
[01:49] <bazhang> Roxy``, this is not the place for support of that: ##windows
[01:49] <beata|lemur> Sure! Current issue is 'Failed to load session gnome'
[01:49] <cfhowlett> Dillman09: clean install is preferred but in place is do-able
[01:49] <Roxy``> bazhang: I am STUCK in ubuntu, and need help with it.
[01:49] <ActionParsnip> nnatomltop: you don't have to use unity
[01:50] <Roxy``> bazhang: I am sure ##windows wouldn't be able to help me with a ubuntu **** up XD
[01:50] <Oer> pangolin, nmap -sP 192.168.1.0/24 >> That will ping every address between 192.168.1.0 and 192.168.1.255 and list those it finds
[01:50] <bazhang> Roxy``, you are trying to create a windows iso start up. there are no ubuntu tools for that
[01:50] <bazhang> Roxy``, last warning on the foul language
[01:50] <ActionParsnip> nnatomltop: I use LXDE and there is no Unity there. Also if you use xfce or KDE or ANY other DE, you will not get Unity by default
[01:50] <Dillman09> ok, i'll make sure to test 12.04 on a new disk to ensure that the power issue is resolved before rebuilding. really appreciate the help
[01:50] <pangolin> ActionParsnip Oer thank you
[01:51] <Roxy``> bazhang: What other software is there to burn an iso to the usb.
[01:51] <cfhowlett> Dillman09: good luck  - don't forget to look at x/l/buntu
[01:51] <Bsims> Roxy``: try Linuxlive usb creator or unetbootin and feed it your windows iso
[01:51] <Dillman09> which would you recommend?
[01:51] <Bsims> unetbootin runs in linux
[01:51] <Dillman09> im open to any sugguestions
[01:51] <cfhowlett> Dillman09: install virtual box and try them both!  Win!
[01:51] <bazhang> Roxy``, you are asking about burning a windows iso to usb, this is the wrong place for it. ##windows is the correct place
[01:51] <Roxy``> Bsims: Unetbootin and windows aren't actually FRIENDS.
[01:51] <Bsims> Roxy``: ya asked for ideas
[01:52] <Dillman09> i spend most of my day using virtual box. so i'm ultimately looking for a stable vbox platform
[01:52] <ActionParsnip> Roxy``: you could get another windows user near t you to make you a bootable windows USB, probably easier
[01:52] <ActionParsnip> Dillman09: virtualbox, qemu and vmware are options
[01:52] <Roxy``> bazhang: Like ##windows would know the proper software to use IN ubuntu
[01:52] <cfhowlett> Dillman09: I'd tend to favor xubuntu as hosts then
[01:53] <nnatomltop> ActionParsnip, Alright I will have to figure that out later.   Still I preferred ubuntu when it was simple and sleak, close to Debian.  ....   Do I just use apt-get install gnome to get back to the base system ?
[01:53] <Dillman09> and any particular release of xubuntu? i think i'd have to find one with an older kernel  or the new 3.2.5
[01:53] <ActionParsnip> nnatomltop: Unity is a shell for Gnome, you already have gnome installed if you are using Unity
[01:54] <cfhowlett> Dillman09: 10.04 should run on your specs
[01:54] <beata|lemur> I would like to get the system to a reasonably stable state where I can work on dock/hotswap/ACPI support.
[01:54] <Dillman09> ok cool. going to download an .iso now
[01:54] <cfhowlett> Dillman09: good luck.
[01:54] <ActionParsnip> nnatomltop: I suggest you run:  sudo apt-get install xfce4    and install xfce, use the xfce session and it will feel like Gnome2
[01:55] <Bsims> nnatomltop: xfce is good
[01:55] <Bsims> though I would give my eyeteeth to see kde have icon support like wmaker
[01:56] <nnatomltop> ActionParsnip, How do I switch shells?  and remove apt-daemon .....  742MB ram for the base system is unacceptable I feel like I am using windows.    One last question How does unity interact with the system and is it disabled by default?
[01:56]  * Bsims grins different functions based on middle click vs left click
[01:56] <Roxy``> ActionParsnip: Thats what am about to do, I am not about to be stuck awhole night in ubuntu's crap
[01:56] <lenswipe> hey guys
[01:56] <ActionParsnip> Roxy``: find a local buddy
[01:56] <beata|lemur> Ye gods.
[01:56] <lenswipe> is there a way i can do an ubuntu install in OEM mode?
[01:56] <lenswipe> i have ubuntu on a penstick for a netbook
[01:56] <Bsims> Roxy``: what did ya do to mess up your bootloader?
[01:57] <FloodBot1> !netsplit
[01:57] <Bsims> lets start at the begining, feel free to PM
[01:57] <lenswipe> so i can just set all the techie stuff up and have it ask the user all the .....holy fuck
[01:57] <ActionParsnip> nnatomltop: if you install gnome-shell you can press ALT+F2 and run:  gnome-shell --repace   and use that
[01:57] <lenswipe> all the user related non techy questions later
[01:57] <lenswipe> is that possible>
[01:57] <Roxy``> Bsims: I didn't do anything I used unetbootin to burn the windows 7 iso onto the usb drive and it screwed it all up.
[01:57] <ActionParsnip> nnatomltop: if you wnat to switch desktop (not shell) then you need to log off and select it at login
[01:57] <JPeterson> open-vm-tools clipboard doesn't work
[01:57] <Bsims> lenswipe: easiest way is to copy a good set of dot files into the users home dir
[01:58] <h00k> !language | lenswipe
[01:58] <dRounse> Roxy``: im pretty sure you need a disk for win7
[01:58] <Bsims> that will copy all the configs
[01:58] <lenswipe> Bsims, what?
[01:58] <beata|lemur> This *is* old hardware, admittedly, P2/P3 era, so I don't expect it to be fast.
[01:58] <Ben64> Roxy``: this is an ubuntu support channel, for windows, join ##windows
[01:58] <Roxy``> dRounse: Not by far, you don't. I've installed it using a usb drive before.
[01:58] <lenswipe> Bsims, no, im doing an install for someone and i wont be around when they set the password and stuff up
[01:58] <Bsims> lenswipe: on every unix like OS ah
[01:58] <ActionParsnip> beata|lemur: if you use lubuntu or xubuntu it will be a bit faster
[01:58] <lenswipe> Bsims, i need them to choose this stuff after ive long gone
[01:59] <lenswipe> Bsims, i should mention this is a netbook
[01:59] <Bsims> lenswipe: Hrm have them email it to ya and ssh to it to set it?
[01:59] <Roxy``> Ben64: my issue is with ubuntu, only thing is I am stuck with the piece of crap trying to transfer an windows iso from it
[01:59] <Oer> lenswipe, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Ubuntu_OEM_Installer_Overview  ( i think you need the dvd iso for that )
[01:59] <mhaz> Kubuntu not supported. Unity pushed. Why stay with Ubuntu?
[01:59] <lenswipe> Oer, will that fit on a penstick?
[01:59] <dRounse> i have a question regarding converting music files
[01:59] <lenswipe> Bsims, i would prefer this way
[01:59] <nnatomltop> ActionParsnip, Thanks.    Do you know what apt-daemon was supposed to accomplish.  It really confuses me.  Its like a big fancy annoying thing for what should be a simple user initiated simple public task.
[01:59] <ActionParsnip> lenswipe: install openssh-server and port forward port 22/TCP on their router, you can now remote access to fix some things
[01:59] <bazhang> mhaz, thats not a support question
[01:59] <lenswipe> ActionParsnip, No.
[01:59] <Ben64> Roxy``: if you have a problem with ubuntu, ask a question. we're not here to help you install windows
[01:59] <lenswipe> :p
[01:59] <cfhowlett> dRounse: ask
[01:59] <ActionParsnip> nnatomltop: not sure, is it ran as root or as user?
[02:00] <mhaz> Sorry. Thought discussion forum.
[02:00] <Bsims> lenswipe: can't think of anything of the top of my head other than set it up with an account named setup and have them add the new user from that then remove the user
[02:00] <Roxy``> Ben64: I don't need help installing Windows, Windows is way more simple. The problem is getting it burned on a usb stick from its iso format
[02:00] <bazhang> mhaz, there is one : #ubuntu-offtopic
[02:00] <JPeterson> open-vm-tools clipboard doesn't work
[02:00] <ActionParsnip> nnatomltop: could try marking it as not executable and reboot, see if it helps :) You can always boot to liveCD and tweak it back if it causes issues
[02:00] <lenswipe> Bsims, ill just set it for them to automatically login i guess
[02:00] <lenswipe> ;/
[02:00] <ActionParsnip> JPeterson: any details.....
[02:00] <nnatomltop> ActionParsnip, It seems to be run as root.  Does not seem to talk to the update manager well.  Eats a lot of cpu and dosn't show what its doing.  I have a habit of killing things that I don't know what they are doing.
[02:00] <Bsims> Roxy``: and for the 11,482nd time in the wrong room
[02:01] <mhaz> dRounse: winff
[02:01] <Oer> lenswipe, 4 gb yes ( iso is 1.5 gb )
[02:01] <Roxy``> Bsims: Don't talk if you can't read. XD
[02:01] <dRounse> cfhowlett: i converted my music using sound converter, to 128 kbps and on the file when i look it says 48 kbps but the quality is not of 48 kbps is that normal?
[02:01] <cfhowlett> Roxy``: go to a friend.  borrow his windows machine.  create your media.  live long and prosper
[02:01] <beata|lemur> I can go give that a try, sure.
[02:01] <JPeterson> ActionParsnip: I did apt-get --purge remove open-vm-tools, then sudo apt-get install open-vm-tools
[02:01] <JPeterson> that's it
[02:01] <mhaz> thanks
[02:01] <JPeterson> lsmod show all modules
[02:01] <cfhowlett> dRounse: "quality is no 48" means what??
[02:01] <bazhang> Roxy``, you're offtopic here, please take it to ##windows
[02:01] <ActionParsnip> nnatomltop: https://launchpad.net/aptdaemon shows what it does
[02:02] <Bsims> lenswipe: i'd strongly advise setting up something like dyndns for it, my clients think I am a god for fixing it remotely via ssh
[02:02] <ActionParsnip> JPeterson: did it work before the removal?
[02:02] <JPeterson> ActionParsnip: nope
[02:02] <JPeterson> lsmod show vmblock, vmsync, vmhgfs, vmci
[02:02] <ActionParsnip> nnatomltop: you can also see the bugs reported for the package
[02:02] <dRounse> cfhowlett: well the higher bitrate the better quality, but the quality of the songs i converted is definetly not 48 kbps.... is that normal for my computer to say 48 kbps
[02:02] <Bsims> lenswipe: and lets face it jim.bob.dyndns.org is easier than 123.456.789 if ya got to remember it
[02:02] <lenswipe> Bsims, i cant, its at my place
[02:03] <lenswipe> Bsims, theres a whole host of reasons why i can
[02:03] <lenswipe> cant*
[02:03]  * Bsims understands
[02:03] <lenswipe> i assume normal-buntu is kosha on a netbook?
[02:03] <ActionParsnip> lenswipe: define 'kosha'
[02:03] <Ben64> dRounse: it could be variable bitrate, so it could be 48kbit in some spots
[02:03] <lenswipe> i just find netbook remix repulsive
[02:03] <bazhang> !une | lenswipe
[02:03] <lenswipe> ActionParsnip, it doesnt shit brix
[02:03] <Bsims> leave them a file with instructions on how to change the password
[02:04] <JPeterson> ActionParsnip: problem was vmware-user-suid-wrapper wasn't run
[02:04] <ActionParsnip> lenswipe: netbook remix hasn't been developed for years now
[02:04] <bazhang> lenswipe, stop with the cursing
[02:04] <cfhowlett> dRounse: bring this question to #ubuntustudio
[02:04] <lenswipe> bazhang, im on 10.04 - can i just do dist-upgrade
[02:04] <JPeterson> ActionParsnip: where is it supposed to run from?
[02:04] <Bsims> I've done that for windows with screenshots and everything
[02:04] <lenswipe> bazhang, apologies
[02:04] <ActionParsnip> JPeterson: its not something I use dude
[02:04] <JPeterson> someone else
[02:04] <dRounse> Ben64: so is that good or bad? i just want good quality but i dont want it taking up my whole hard drive
[02:04] <ActionParsnip> lenswipe: which release are you using?
[02:04] <JPeterson> where is ivmware-user-suid-wrapper supposed to run from?
[02:04] <bazhang> lenswipe, upgrade, dist-upgrade is something else
[02:04] <dRounse> Ben64: it doesnt seem different tho
[02:04] <Ben64> dRounse: for good quality, you'd probably want more than 128kbit to be honest
[02:04] <lenswipe> bazhang, upgrade just upgrades the packages
[02:04] <Bsims> lenswipe: wanting to upgrade via cli?
[02:05] <lenswipe> bazhang, i want to take 10.04 to whatever the latest stable version of ubuntu is
[02:05] <nnatomltop> ActionParsnip, Frankly that discription scares me, As a sys admin I don't want things out of my control.  I like to know EXACTLY what my computer is doing and why and who did it.  Aptdaemon almost is like saying, Users we now allow you to be stupid and install anything you like, Including viruses.
[02:05] <Ben64> lenswipe: 10.04 is the latest stable LTS version
[02:05] <lenswipe> ActionParsnip, 10.04(for now)
[02:05] <dRounse> Ben64: well i really dont notice much of a difference with lower bitrate
[02:05] <lenswipe> Ben64, can i upgrade to 11.10 using dist-upgrade?
[02:05] <bazhang> lenswipe, you can go to 11.10 now, or wait a couple of months and go directly to 12.04 in one step
[02:06] <lenswipe> hmm
[02:06] <lenswipe> id prefer to go to 11.10 now because 10.04 doesnt have unity so when that suddenly appears this girl might freak
[02:06] <lenswipe> id rather things were just different from the beginning
[02:07] <ActionParsnip> lenswipe: thats why. You could hang til April then install Precise (12.04) as an LTS to LTS upgrade
[02:07] <JPeterson> the /etc/xdg/autostart/vmware-user.desktop is there as it sohuld be, but it's not launched
[02:07] <ActionParsnip> lenswipe: you don't have to use Unity
[02:07] <Bsims> lenswipe: "sudo apt-get install update-manager-core" edit /etc/update-manager/release-upgrades and set Prompt=normal then do "sudo do-release-upgrade"
[02:07] <ActionParsnip> lenswipe: if you install xfce4 in Oneiric you will not get the unity shell by default
[02:07] <FloodBot1> !netsplit
[02:07] <Bsims> lenswipe: I've been running ubuntu for about a decade now, and the gui tool has never once worked, this always has
[02:08] <cordoval> where does mysql gets installed /var/lib/mysql? or /usr/lib/mysql?
[02:08] <cordoval> can someone please hint me?
[02:08] <ActionParsnip> cordoval: how is that done?
[02:09] <lenswipe> Bsims, what has?
[02:09] <cordoval> sudo apt-get install
[02:10] <Bsims> lenswipe: the server upgrade method I posted
[02:10] <Bsims> lenswipe: its two commands
[02:10] <Bsims> well three
[02:10] <lenswipe> Bsims, i never saw them
[02:10] <lenswipe> :(
[02:10] <Bsims> lenswipe: "sudo apt-get install update-manager-core" edit /etc/update-manager/release-upgrades and set Prompt=normal then do "sudo do-release-upgrade"
[02:10] <javier_> Hi, my laptop (ubuntu 11.10) is making problems: booting windows 7 or ubuntu takes 20-30 minutes and it's slow and unstable when working. Now I booted from ubuntu live USB, and it works well. Does it tell someone something about where can be the problem. I think is hardware problem, but don't know where... any ideas?
[02:10] <cordoval> ActionParsnip: ? sudo apt-get install way
[02:10] <fean0r> codoval: try whereis mysql
[02:10] <lenswipe> thx man
[02:11] <Bsims> and you only have to edit /etc/update-manager/release-upgrades once
[02:11] <Bsims> and its there forever
[02:11] <cordoval> thanks fean0r
[02:11] <Ben64> javier_: i'd guess hard drive, pastebin the result of this - "sudo fdisk -l"
[02:11] <cordoval> ~ whereis mysql
[02:11] <cordoval> mysql: /usr/bin/mysql /etc/mysql /usr/lib/mysql /usr/include/mysql /usr/share/mysql /usr/share/man/man1/mysql.1.gz
[02:11] <cordoval> why then am i getting the rror
[02:11] <cordoval> when compiling?
[02:11] <lenswipe> Bsims, thx man
[02:11] <Bsims> cordoval: install mysql-lib
[02:12] <Bsims> the lib packages are needed to compile not to run it
[02:12] <Bsims> so its split off
[02:12] <cordoval> Bsims: hmm sudo apt-get install mysql-lib fails
[02:13] <Ben64> javier_: if you pasted anything, i didn't see it
[02:13] <Bsims> cordoval: heh what version of mysql ya running, I'll give you the proper name
[02:13] <javier_> Ben64, http://pastebin.com/Gse2FhKe I'm afraid it's in spanish... don't know if you will guess what means, but I can tell you if you ask. Thanks
[02:13] <cordoval> Bsims: mysql  Ver 14.14 Distrib 5.5.19, for debian-linux-gnu (x86_64) using readline 6.2
[02:14] <javier_> Ben64, or, how to get it in spanish
[02:15] <Ben64> javier_: what is the 16GB drive?
[02:16] <Bsims> cordoval: install libmysqlclient-dev
[02:16] <Ben64> javier_: now pastebin this - "sudo hdparm -tT /dev/sdb"
[02:16] <javier_> Ben64, ah... I see. I'm in ubuntu live cd, and that's my usb information. So, it's not useful for us
[02:16] <cordoval> Bsims: i think i already have that
[02:16] <Bsims> cordoval also install synaptic its a good gui for package management
[02:16] <javier_> Ben64, I mean, ubuntu live usb+
[02:16] <cordoval> Bsims: libmysqlclient-dev is already the newest version.
[02:17] <Ben64> javier_: it will be useful
[02:17] <cordoval> Bsims: there is a lot of network splits
[02:17] <The_Weather_Guy> What the fudge?
[02:17] <Bsims> cordoval: try installing libmysqld-dev
[02:18] <cordoval> I did
[02:18] <cordoval> oh d
[02:18] <javier_> Ben64, but, as I said, here on ubuntu live usb it works well, but if I boot from my hard drive ubuntu or windows, is when I find the problem. So, we would need to test hard drive to detect the prblem
[02:18] <pangolin> !netsplit | These are planned splits folks and should be over soon.
[02:18] <cordoval> libmysqld-dev is already the newest version.
[02:18] <The_Weather_Guy> Too many netsplits
[02:18] <stephan> help
[02:19] <cordoval> Bsims: libmysqld-dev is already the newest version.
[02:19] <MrKeuner> any fail2ban users out there? I am looking for nice fail2ban jail.configuration
[02:19] <Ben64> javier_: but if you pastebin this - "sudo hdparm -tT /dev/sdb" it will show the hard drive speed, which i'm thinking the problem is
[02:19] <szal> pangolin: network admins could've issued a note at least ;)
[02:19] <pangolin> szal: they did
[02:19]  * Bsims doesn't know then cordoval what is the exact error
[02:19] <pangolin> szal: /umode +w
[02:19] <Dr_willis> MrKeuner:  cant say i ever used that feature of fail2ban
[02:19] <Bsims> cordoval: install synaptic and start browsing the -dev packages for sql
[02:19] <szal> pangolin: they usually give out one public message for all
[02:19] <MrKeuner> Dr_willis, you can enable new rules. such as rules for w00t w00t maniac
[02:19] <cordoval> Bsims: https://gist.github.com/1764565
[02:20] <pangolin> szal: tomaw/Wallops- Okay, sorry for that noise; we're done now!
[02:20] <Tasmania> Guys how can you download your wiki domain into mediawiki?
[02:20] <Dr_willis> MrKeuner:  not sure why i would need to. :) i just ban based on how many ssh attempts.
[02:20] <JPeterson> where is vmware-user-suid-wrapper autostarted from? /etc/xdg/autostart/vmware-user.desktop is there as it sohuld be, but it's not launched.
[02:20] <MrKeuner> Dr_willis, so your fail2ban is not monitoring anything else than sshd
[02:21] <MrKeuner> I use it for monitoring other logs as well
[02:21] <Dr_willis> MrKeuner:  ssh is basically the only public service i got going on my server. so yes.
[02:21] <MrKeuner> cool
[02:21] <Bsims> cordoval: hit this bug? http://bugs.mysql.com/bug.php?id=38009
[02:21] <Dr_willis> MrKeuner:  ssh and znc is all  have  going.
[02:21] <javier_> Ben64, http://pastebin.com/Zk63SrqP
[02:21] <The_Weather_Guy> Yay! I finally finished setting up ubuntu
[02:21] <The_Weather_Guy> :)
[02:21] <make> i need use Skybe for ubuntu 64bit .how to???
[02:22] <cordoval> Bsims: that seems unrelated
[02:22] <Ben64> javier_: yep, you need a new hard drive
[02:22] <Dr_willis> !skype | make
[02:22] <cfhowlett> !skype|make
[02:22] <cordoval> Bsims: I am just trying to install the indexer here https://docs.phraseanet.com/en/Admin/Prerequisite.html
[02:22] <MrKeuner> Dr_willis, you can monitor any log with fail2ban, including znv, or vnc?
[02:22] <jane-doe_> Hello
[02:22] <cfhowlett> jane-doe_: greetings
[02:22] <Bsims> cordoval: I know less than nothing about sql on ubuntu sorry but assuming ya got all the dev libs, gonna assume bad code
[02:22] <javier_> Ben64, Ops... where do you see it?
[02:22] <cordoval> Bsims: https://gist.github.com/1764595
[02:22] <The_Weather_Guy> Floodbot
[02:23] <Dr_willis> MrKeuner:  never really needed to.  I have  only the 2 exposed services forwarded through my router.  I cant say i ever noticed many znc attempts. Just ssh.
[02:23] <Dr_willis> MrKeuner:  not even running those at this time.
[02:23] <MrKeuner> change your ssh port and you won't even see those ones
[02:23] <T_H_X> :)
[02:23] <Dr_willis> MrKeuner:  i have changed my port. i still get ssh break in attempts.
[02:23] <Bsims> cordoval: that looks reasonable sorry man I dunno
[02:23] <cordoval> :(
[02:24] <cordoval> :'(
[02:24] <MrKeuner> Dr_willis, really? didn't know that
[02:24] <Ben64> javier_: compare your speed to mine, http://pastebin.com/QBRAc0ZA
[02:24] <MrKeuner> Dr_willis, I recenlt enabled a jail configuration for fail2ban.log itself
[02:24] <Bsims> cordoval: is the call hardcoded in the script?
[02:24] <Dr_willis> MrKeuner:  just random scans. - I also have ssh set up where it onlyu works with key based auth. so no password attempts will work.   and the fail2ban (i think) is set where they get like 3 tries and they are banned.
[02:24] <MrKeuner> if someone gets banned three times for 300 sec, they get banned for 10 days for instance
[02:25] <cordoval> Bsims: you mean configure script?
[02:25] <Dr_willis> MrKeuner:  if they get banned here.. they are banned. :)
[02:25] <Bsims> cordoval: yeah seen that with newbie code
[02:25] <MrKeuner> Dr_willis, that's another way :)
[02:25] <Dr_willis> I only rarely ssh in from my phone lately. or machines on localhost.
[02:25] <Tasmania> How can you install a wiki domain into your mediawiki server?
[02:26] <cordoval> Bsims: https://github.com/alchemy-fr/Phraseanet-Indexer/blob/master/configure.ac
[02:26] <javier_> Ben64, yes, I see. But I repeated the command in terminal and it changes all the time the speed. For example, now it reported: http://pastebin.com/cQz89gHw
[02:26] <cordoval> AC_PATH_PROG([MYSQL_CONFIG], [mysql_config], , $PATH/usr/bin:/usr/local/mysql/bin)
[02:26] <beata|lemur> Downloading ...
[02:27] <MrKeuner> Dr_willis, i could write jail configuration for any log file, If I had understood regexp
[02:27] <cordoval> Bsims: https://github.com/alchemy-fr/Phraseanet-Indexer/blob/master/configure.ac#L28
[02:27] <Ben64> javier_: it should be consistent. that first time with the KB/s speed is very bad. hard drive needs to be replaced
[02:27] <Bsims> all looks reasonable but I don't know if the fixed locations in the file match where ubutnu sticks things
[02:27] <cordoval> they work in mac
[02:28] <cordoval> wonder where do they deploy to though
[02:28] <javier_> Ben64, ok. Actually, I believe that is the problem. With that speed it will be a hard work to save all the data I have there...
[02:28] <Bsims> cordoval: do a locate mysql|grep bin
[02:28] <Roxy``> http://www.webupd8.org/2010/10/create-bootable-windows-7-usb-drive.html
[02:28] <Roxy``> yay!
[02:28] <Roxy``> ^.^
[02:29] <FloodBot1> Roxy``: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[02:29] <cordoval> Bsims: https://gist.github.com/1764680
[02:29] <Roxy``> making a bootable from ubuntu
[02:29] <Roxy``> XD
[02:30] <ActionParsnip> Roxy``: yep, use unetbootin, which we told you...
[02:30] <cfhowlett> ActionParsnip: again and again...
[02:31] <Bsims> cordoval: look to see where mysql-lib sticks things
[02:31] <ActionParsnip> cfhowlett: maybe its a windows user thing
[02:31] <Bsims> cordoval: got the idea?
[02:31] <cfhowlett> LOL!
[02:31] <Ben64> ActionParsnip: i was thinking the same thing, didn't want to say it
[02:31] <cordoval> Bsims: no, those look like binaries
[02:31] <Dr_willis> work time for me.. bbl.
[02:32] <Bsims> ActionParsnip: http://lmgtfy.com/ is my new help search engine
[02:32] <ActionParsnip> Bsims: haha, I use: www.duckduckgo.com  usually. The bang syntax is aweomse
[02:33]  * cordoval has prying eyes for a good solution to his problem compiling phrasea simple app on ubuntu
[02:33] <JPeterson> where is vmware-user-suid-wrapper autostarted from? /etc/xdg/autostart/vmware-user.desktop is there as it sohuld be, but it's not launched.
[02:33] <Bsims> hrm then right click on the lib in synaptic and look for installed files
[02:34] <Bsims> cordoval: then right click on the lib in synaptic and look for installed files
[02:34] <Bsims> ActionParsnip: yes but my way is more insulting <g>
[02:34] <bazhang> Bsims, dont use that here, ever.
[02:35] <cordoval> Bsims: https://gist.github.com/1764706
[02:37] <cordoval> Bsims: sounds like /usr/include/mysql
[02:37] <cordoval> is the place
[02:37] <cordoval> now should i tell ./configure --libdir=/usr/include/mysql? or what
[02:37] <Bsims> cordoval: so point the part that is looking for libs to /usr/include/mysql to be honest its past my paygrade
[02:38] <Bsims> cordoval: the script is assuming its built from scratch
[02:38] <nnatomltop> anyone know what Distribution of Linux, Google uses?
[02:38] <JPeterson> how do i change encoding ansi utf-8?
[02:38] <cordoval> hmm Bsims from scratch?
[02:38] <Bsims> cordoval: yeah I am fond of checkinstall for making quick and dirty packages
[02:39] <Bsims> shove it in /usr/local as an install location and bob's your uncle
[02:39] <cordoval> Bsims:  sorry you slang is getting me lost already
[02:40] <cordoval> what should I try in specific
[02:40] <cordoval> so change this line ? AC_PATH_PROG([MYSQL_CONFIG], [mysql_config], , $PATH/usr/bin:/usr/local/mysql/bin)
[02:40] <Bsims> cordoval: checkinstall will make a quick and dirty package, that is handled like anything else... or see if that package has a ubuntu flavor
[02:41] <cordoval> hmm
[02:42] <Bsims> cordoval: the install script is assuming installed from scratch to /usr/local/mysql
[02:42] <cordoval> oh hmm
[02:42] <cordoval> so but how to correct it I am wondering
[02:42] <Bsims> cordoval: In actual fact I'd fire someone for writing it
[02:42] <cordoval> I can make a PR correcting it
[02:42] <cordoval> but need to understand it first
[02:43] <cordoval> this is on github sothey will surely take PRs https://github.com/alchemy-fr/Phraseanet-Indexer/blob/master/configure.ac#L28
[02:43] <cordoval> help me firing them
[02:43] <adam123> Hi guys, I just upgraded to 11.10 was running 10.10 for a while, although now I keep on getting a message saying 'panic occurred, switching back to text console' never had this problem before, any ideas? Thanks in advanced.
[02:43] <Bsims> easiest way is to patch the install script, or install it by hand I'd see if the addon is already packaged first
[02:44] <Bsims> cordoval: my only sql experence is with sql/400 on a IBM I series
[02:44] <cordoval> I think you want me to run sudo checkinstall
[02:45] <Tasmania> How can you download mediawiki into your server?
[02:45] <Bsims> not a bad idea makes it easier to uninstall
[02:45]  * Bsims goes off insearch of food
[02:45] <cordoval> but Bsims the thing fails on make
[02:45] <cordoval> not make install
[02:48] <Tasmania> wow
[02:49] <cfhowlett> adam123: hardware??
[02:50] <lenswipe> hey guys
[02:50] <lenswipe> i cant install openssh-server
[02:50] <lenswipe> it says the package has no installation candidate and that its referred to by another package or something
[02:50] <Raymond_> anybody familiar with phpBB3
[02:50] <bazhang> lenswipe, whats the error, pastebin it
[02:50] <lenswipe> if i search for it in synaptic i only get openssh client
[02:50] <lenswipe> bazhang, it was a GTK error box
[02:50] <lenswipe> do i need to enable any extra repos?
[02:51] <bazhang> Raymond_, do you have a question related to that, if so please ask the channel
[02:51] <adam123> cfhowlett, hmmm... I think it may be an issue with my chipsets, I find it doesn't happen if I run in Ubuntu 2D? Just wasn't happening with the older version I was using / Linix Mint I had a while back. :)
[02:51] <cfhowlett> adam123: that's why I asked about hardware - I'd suspect your GPU.  Try 2d...
[02:51] <bazhang> adam123, unity-2d you mean?
[02:52] <trism> lenswipe: did you run: sudo apt-get update; yet?
[02:52] <adam123> Yeah unity-2d, really new to this. Its pretty awesome. Is this a new thing in 11.10?
[02:52] <bazhang> adam123, since 11.04 iirc
[02:52] <lenswipe> trism, no, that fixed it - thanks :D
[02:53] <bazhang> adam123, whats the video card ?
[02:53] <adam123> Oh call me old fashioned but I've been running 10.10 for a good while now. I hate change, but was thinking it was about time. 11.10 is pretty. <3
[02:53] <ActionParsnip> bazhang: yep, Natty 11.04
[02:54] <gisli> hi guys, after using Arch for the last months I've forgotten how to start openssh and apache at startup? How is it done again?
[02:54] <ActionParsnip> adam123: Maverick is EOL in April this year so may want to upgrade soon. If you install Xubuntu it will look and feel like Maverick
[02:54] <h4ppy-b0t>  testing
[02:54] <h4ppy-b0t>  testing
[02:54] <h4ppy-b0t>  testing
[02:54] <h4ppy-b0t>  testing
[02:54] <h4ppy-b0t>  testing
[02:54] <FloodBot1> h4ppy-b0t: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[02:54] <ActionParsnip> gisli: Arch isn't supported here
[02:54] <W4rl0ck> hello happy
[02:54] <cordoval> :'(
[02:54] <adam123> ActionParsnip, thanks for the advice!
[02:54] <W4rl0ck> ouch
[02:55] <ActionParsnip> adam123: np :)
[02:55] <W4rl0ck> that is my man happy!
[02:55] <Raymond_> host gator installed phpbb3 and i am having trouble finding the forum on the web to setup the admin. i assume i need to change some permissions, any ideas
[02:55] <christophe> quelqun parle francais ?
[02:55] <W4rl0ck> !help
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[02:55] <christophe> help
[02:55] <gisli> ActionParsnip: read what I wrote a little better, I'm on the Ubuntu channel after all...
[02:55] <Corey> wat
[02:55] <bazhang> W4rl0ck, remove the bot please
[02:55] <ActionParsnip> gisli: your question doesn't mention Ubuntu, only arch. What else am I to think...
[02:56] <ActionParsnip> gisli: in ubuntu the services once installed will be started and added to the startup sequence of the OS
[02:56] <adam123> Dumb question, but what is the command to find out the name of my video card? $ lspci doesn't seem to be working for me.
[02:56] <ActionParsnip> adam123: sudo lshw -C display
[02:57] <zykotick9> adam123: you might try "lspci | grep -i vga"
[02:57] <ActionParsnip> adam123: only the chip is important ;)
[02:57] <adam123> Thanks, means alot!
[02:57] <gisli> ActionParsnip: I mention I've forgotten how to start openssh and apache at startup because I've been using Arch for the last few months. And I'm in the ubuntu channel so I thought it was obvious I was asking about ubuntu ;)
[02:57] <ActionParsnip> adam123: thanks for the gratitude :)
[02:57] <gisli> ActionParsnip: but thanks ;)
[02:57] <ActionParsnip> gisli: np :)
[02:57] <adam123> VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc RS482 [Radeon Xpress 200]
[02:59] <adam123> I don't really see it as an issue anymore, everything seems to be working fine in Unity 2D. Yay :)
[02:59] <adam123> I love you guys!
[02:59] <Roge152> Does anyone know why/how ubuntu would throttle an internet connection to 100kbps
[03:00] <Roge152> On the same machine, windows and other linux distros give me my full speed, but for some reason in ubuntu, both live CD and full install throttles my connection.
[03:01] <ActionParsnip> Roge152: disable ipv6 with the boot option: ipv6.disabl=1   if you don't use it, also try adding this: http://dl.dropbox.com/u/8850924/sysctl  to /etc/sysctl.conf
[03:01] <Roge152> thanks
[03:01] <ActionParsnip> Roge152: run:  sudo sysctl -p   to apply
[03:02] <adam123> another question for you guys, I'm donating this computer at the end of this month, and just looking to wipe data of my HD. Been looking at using Dban is this the best soultion for the job?
[03:03] <ActionParsnip> adam123: there isn't really a best for anything
[03:03] <ActionParsnip> adam123: bleachbit can do it too
[03:03] <Ben64> adam123: just use dd and fill the drive with zeros
[03:03] <Ben64> adam123: dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/sd<x>
[03:03] <adam123> Hmmm thanks! Just have a lot of personal work stuff I don't want ending up in the wrong hands. Thanks for your advice everyone!
[03:05] <iananananan> !grub
[03:06] <adam123> Anyways I'm off to bed now. Thanks for all your help everyone. G'night much love!
[03:09] <Raymond_> i am having trouble accessing phpbb3 forum admin to set it up
[03:16] <JPeterson> where is vmware-user-suid-wrapper autostarted from? /etc/xdg/autostart/vmware-user.desktop is there as it sohuld be, but it's not launched.
[03:17] <JPeterson> unchanged
[03:24] <vindav> hi there...Help please...to discover a full proof way to remove any evidence of Firefox 11 and the use of it in my Ubuntu 10.04 LTS desktop as the browser constantly crashes.
[03:24] <KDotHQ> Hi
[03:25] <KDotHQ> Anyone around?
[03:25] <KDotHQ> ...
[03:26] <daswort> maybe :P
[03:28] <ActionParsnip> vindav: you may need to rename ~/.mozilla/firefox   the new configs may crash the older version
[03:29] <vindav> ActionParsnip:  Where do I do that on my system ?
[03:29] <ActionParsnip> vindav: you can do it in a terminal or in nautilus as 2 suggesions
[03:30] <cfhowlett> vindav: sudo apt-get purge firefox then go to /home and delete .mozilla
[03:30] <vindav> ActionParsnip:  What is the terminal command, or can I do it from Gnome where I can find the file  .mozilla   by doing a Ctrl-H in the home folder, then alter ?
[03:30] <ActionParsnip> cfhowlett: what isf the user uses thunderbird!?
[03:30] <vindav> ActionParsnip:  Ok, I'll try that now.
[03:30] <ActionParsnip> vindav: mv ~/.mozilla/firefox ~/.mozilla/firefox_old
[03:31] <ActionParsnip> cfhowlett: the thunderbird config AND EMAILS are stored in ~/.mozilla too...
[03:31] <cfhowlett> vindav: DO NOT delete .mozilla DON"T DO IT!
[03:31]  * ActionParsnip sighs
[03:31] <cfhowlett> ActionParsnip: once again, brain in neutral, fingers typing.  thanks for the reminder
[03:31] <vindav> cfhowlett:  Why ?
[03:31] <Tunix2> Okay I installed ndiswrapper, use it to install my wireless driver, did modprobe ndiswrapper and ndiswrapper -m and rebooted when I run 'ndiswrapper -l' DRIVER: XXX DEVICE PRESENT so why cant I see the wlan0 when i run ifconfig or iwconfig?
[03:32] <cfhowlett> vindav: as AP rightly pointed out, your thunderbird files are ALSO in .mozilla - you'd lose all your email configurations and probably your emails themselves
[03:32] <ActionParsnip> vindav: if you use thunderbird then your emails are also in ~/.mozilla so you should rename ~/.mozilla/firefox which will not touch your thunderbird config (if it is used)
[03:33] <Tunix2> Anyone proficient with getting wireless drivers to work with ubuntu?
[03:33] <vindav> ActionParsnip:  Yes, I also use Thunderbird as my e-mail prgm.  So far, I have purged Firefox from the terminal prgm.  So, how do you suggest I rename the file to ?
[03:34] <ActionParsnip> vindav: I gave you the command....technically just something differnet and you are fie
[03:34] <ActionParsnip> *fine
[03:35] <vindav> ActionParsnip:   I also have a file separate from Firefox and it's called   .mozilla-thunderbird   Is that file still associated with Firefox somehow ?
[03:35] <ActionParsnip> vindav: thats your emails
[03:36] <Tunix2> Anyone know how to work a little ndiswrapper magic?
[03:37] <vindav> ACtionParsnip:  If I do not delete or rename   .mozilla-thunderbird, I can keep all the e-mail stuff, right ?  And if I delete   .mozilla  which is a completely separate file, will that effect   .mozilla-thunderbird ?
[03:37] <JPeterson> where is vmware-user-suid-wrapper autostarted from? /etc/xdg/autostart/vmware-user.desktop is there, unchaged, but it's not launched apparently.
[03:37] <Tunix2> if not can someone send me an invite to the #linux channel?
[03:37] <JPeterson> answer: the problem was old files in /etc/vmware-tools/ that wasn't removed by --purge remove, probably because they are not used by thw new version
[03:38] <vindav> ActionParsnip: If I do not delete or rename   .mozilla-thunderbird, I can keep all the e-mail stuff, right ?  And if I delete   .mozilla  which is a completely separate file, will that effect   .mozilla-thunderbird ?
[03:38] <JPeterson> so the solution is to --purge remove and delete /etc/vmware-tools/
[03:38] <vindav> vindav:  testing
[03:41] <ActionParsnip> vindav: if you don't touch the folder it won't touch the config. Why would it be any other way?
[03:41] <ActionParsnip> vindav: all you need to do is rename ~/.mozilla/firefox
[03:42] <ActionParsnip> vindav: I even gave you an example command...
[03:43] <Alen> Hello!
[03:43] <Alen> Help me Please!
[03:44] <Alen> How to recover a deleted logical drive?
[03:44] <michao> hi
[03:44] <Alen> hi
[03:45] <morrigandsmith> I am looking for instructions on how to increase the memory limit of my clipboard (using 11.04 32 bit PAE)
[03:45] <Alen> HELP ME PLEASE!!!
[03:45] <morrigandsmith> google was less than useless
[03:45] <Alen> How to recover a deleted logical drive?
[03:45] <Alen> How to recover a deleted logical drive ext4?
[03:45] <morrigandsmith> Alen did you reformat it?
[03:45] <Alen> NONONO
[03:45] <m9527> hello
[03:45] <escott> Alen, if you know the partition layout you can just restore it with fdisk. if not use testdisk
[03:46] <Alen> just delite
[03:46] <vindav> ActionParsnip:   Ok, I've renamed it.  Is it also ok to rename  .mozilla/extensions which is in the same folder as .mozilla/firefox  ?
[03:46] <Alen> in gparted
[03:46] <zykotick9> Alen: you might want to check out testdisk
[03:46] <jayar> is it hard to setup x11 forwarding? for PuTTY?
[03:46] <morrigandsmith> alen did you finalise the changes?
[03:46] <beata|lemur> lxde: Ewww; xfce: Looks promising but I'd like to find a gnome-like disk mounter applet.
[03:46] <m9527> how to get into another channel?
[03:46] <Alen> testdisk work with ext4?
[03:47] <Alen> yes sure
[03:47] <zykotick9> jayar: you'd need an Xorg server for windows... non-trivial i imagine (but i've never done it)
[03:47] <Alen> finish
[03:47] <Alen> :(
[03:47] <Alen> fdisk how?
[03:47] <m9527> #ubuntu-cn
[03:47] <Alen> How recover with fdisk please
[03:47] <Alen> ?
[03:48] <morrigandsmith> you will need the utility dd rescue and the man page for it
[03:48] <escott> Alen, testdisk may not be able to recognize the ext4 structure. so it may not help. All you have to do is figure out what block the partition started on and what block it ended on and go create a new partition (but dont format) of the correct type that starts and stops on the correct blocks
[03:49] <escott> Alen, you should take a dd backup of the entire disk before proceeding
[03:49] <Alen> howto?
[03:49] <Alen> imposseble
[03:49] <morrigandsmith> ty escott
[03:50] <Alen> i nt have free space
[03:50] <Alen> :(
[03:50] <Tunix2> Anyone here have experience with ndiswrapper?
[03:50] <morrigandsmith> alen you need to get an external drive
[03:50] <Alen> How just recover logical delited partition?
[03:50] <Alen> i not have
[03:50] <morrigandsmith> alen there is no "simple" way
[03:50] <Alen> :(
[03:51] <morrigandsmith> you will have to go through a lot of steps and have hours of patients
[03:51] <Alen> I wished I had switched to linux :(
[03:51] <escott> Alen, check if gparted logs its operations. it might tell you what the partition layout was prior to your modification
[03:51] <Alen> on windows very many work and good programs for recover date
[03:51] <Alen> and here no :(
[03:52] <vindav> ActionParsnip:  So, if I want Firefox to be re-installed, I just do:  sudo apt-get install firefox, or shall I just download the new version from Mozilla and install it through terminal ?
[03:52] <Alen> escott, no he start but crashed
[03:52] <Alen> gparted programm crash
[03:53] <Alen> not work function of "gpart"
[03:53] <morrigandsmith> vindav if you want a fully fresh install of firefox you will also need to delete the home/.mozilla dir
[03:53] <Alen> gpart how use it?
[03:53] <Alen> "gpart"
[03:53] <Alen> console util
[03:53] <Alen> gparted use gpart for recover
[03:54] <Alen> help please
[03:54] <morrigandsmith> vindav you will want to uninstall and reinstall firefox through synaptic manager
[03:54] <Alen> I have little understanding linux :(
[03:54] <escott> Alen, please stop sending so many messages. we've given you the outline of what you need to do. you'll need to do some work to figure out the details.
[03:54] <vindav> morrigandsmith:  how do I do that if the file you suggest doesn't exist ?
[03:54] <escott> Alen, if you cannot take a backup (which is highly recommended)
[03:55] <Alen> imposseble
[03:55] <Alen> how just recover partition in linux?
[03:55] <html_5> how do i use more swap ,hoping that the ram will free up a bit
[03:55] <Alen> how do it?
[03:55] <morrigandsmith> vindav have you looked with nautilus in your home folder, showing hidden?
[03:56] <Alen> how to restore it to its place?
[03:56] <ActionParsnip> vindav: reinstall whatever version you want, you will get default configs
[03:56] <Pickle_> hello.
[03:56] <Alen> hi
[03:56] <Alen> help me plz
[03:56] <ActionParsnip> vindav: I suggest you install it via the repos
[03:56] <Alen> (((
[03:56] <escott> Alen, your next step would be to identify where the deleted partition would start and end. if you don't know what those block positions are, you could guess based on the other partitions in the drive. In other words assume that the deleted partition starts at the beginning of free space and extends to the end of the free space. under that assumption you can create a new partition of the correct type (BUT DO NOT FORMAT the new partition)
[03:56] <escott> and if you are correct you have restored. if you are wrong you probably trashed the data
[03:56] <morrigandsmith> ActionParsnip, if the .mozilla folder is still in place it will override default install settings
[03:57] <vindav> morrigandsmith:  I have used the Ctrl-H function to reveal any hidden folders that may be in  .mozilla/
[03:57] <ActionParsnip> vindav: you just need to rename ~/.mozilla/firefox   that's all.
[03:57] <ActionParsnip> morrigandsmith: no as the firefox folder inside is none existant as it is renamed
[03:57] <morrigandsmith> ActionParsnip, agreed, if you rename it will ignore
[03:58] <RadiumCat> hello, xfce on my laptop does not use 100% CPU power when needed, and that makes the overall performance very sluggish. is there a tool i can use that can help me run the CPU at its optimum speed?
[03:58] <ActionParsnip> morrigandsmith: I told the user to do this some time ago..
[03:58] <vindav> ActionParsnip:  What is the repos for Firefox 11 ?
[03:58] <Alen> me just add new partition?
[03:58] <morrigandsmith> ActionParsnip, ok ty for the heads up I didnt realize that you were already helping
[03:59] <sodaclan> Good night, I apologize for my English and I use the google translator, I need help with my Ubuntu 11.10, I bought a new monitor and when I want the drivers comfiguracion uarden the screen at a resolution not achieving adequate
[03:59] <Alen> escott?
[03:59] <RadiumCat> anyone?
[03:59] <Alen> escott,?
[03:59] <Alen> :(
[03:59] <Alen> help please!
[03:59] <ActionParsnip> vindav: what is the output of:  lsb_release -sc
[03:59] <wchan_> on osx... i can do something like .. open myfile.pdf or open xyz.txt ... and it would oopen the  file with the default viewer
[04:00] <wchan_> i know you can use gnome-open ... however im on xubuntu
[04:00] <wchan_> is there something simliar?
[04:00] <ActionParsnip> morrigandsmith: just had to fight a citrix box so wa sin and out
[04:00] <Alen> i cry :(
[04:00] <vindav> ActionParsnip:   lucid
[04:00] <Nach0z> wchan_: you can still use gnome-open if I'm not mistaken, you just gotta install it first
[04:00] <ActionParsnip> RadiumCat: https://launchpad.net/~artfwo/+archive/ppa?field.series_filter=oneiric   may help. Details here: http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2010/12/indicator-cpufreq-cpu-frequency-scaling-indicator-applet/
[04:00] <escott> Alen, it would be a new partition table entry, but not a new formated partition. this is why you may want to use fdisk instead of gparted. gparted tries to be helpful by formatting the partition which would destroy your data
[04:00] <zykotick9> wchan_: try "xdg-open"
[04:00] <ActionParsnip> !info firefox lucid | vindav
[04:00] <wchan_> sudo apt-get install gnome-open?
[04:00] <ActionParsnip> vindav: ver 10 in the lucid main repo..
[04:01] <morrigandsmith> ActionParsnip, have you ever edited the clipboard memory limits? I cant find a good anything with google
[04:01] <bobenhaus> who uses xbuntu
[04:01] <bobenhaus> ?
[04:01] <wchan_> bobenhaus: ppl that dont like the horrible new gnome3?
[04:01] <Nach0z> wchan_: sounds about right. but try xdg-open, zykotick9 mighta found your alternative
[04:01] <ActionParsnip> bobenhaus: many do, its great
[04:01] <vindav> ActionParsnip:  !info firefox lucid | vindav
[04:01] <wchan_> xykotick9: thansk
[04:01] <ActionParsnip> morrigandsmith: not sure. I use parcellite so not sure of the memory uses there
[04:01] <bobenhaus> is there a way to remove the unity and just keep xbuntu as the default?
[04:01] <escott> Alen, if you want to use fdisk its just: "sudo fdisk /dev/sda" "m" for the menu "p" to print the current table "n" to create a new entry
[04:01] <Nach0z> wchan_: if either one works for you, you can edit your .bashrc and insert an alias for open='gnome-open' or something
[04:01] <Alen> escott, if i just add new partition. On it partition will be my files?
[04:02] <ActionParsnip> wchan_: you probably dislike unity, not gnome3
[04:02] <escott> Alen, if you guess correctly yes. if you guess wrong no.
[04:02] <wchan_> ActionParsnip: i dislike both
[04:02] <wchan_> gnome-panel is boke . totally not same as gnome2
[04:02] <Nach0z> bobenhaus: xubuntu is just a name. XFCE4 is the window manager. you can apt-get install xubuntu-desktop, or XFCE4, and just select xfce4 or xubuntu when you're at the login screen
[04:03] <morrigandsmith> ActionParsnip, can percellite copy 500 pages from a pdf to a text file? I need to change a book format to mobi
[04:03] <ActionParsnip> morrigandsmith: worth a try, it is free ;)
[04:03] <aBound> Is it possible to upgrade Ubuntu's 10.04.3 LTS kernel to version 3.0?
[04:03] <ActionParsnip> aBound: yes but its not supported here
[04:03] <bobenhaus> is xbuntu a OS or window manager?
[04:03] <aBound> Gotcha.
[04:04] <ActionParsnip> bobenhaus: its an ubuntu variant using xfce by default as well as light applications
[04:04] <Alen> escott, If I do not guess the size, then what?
[04:04] <Nach0z> bobenhaus: xubuntu is a bunch of packages that are personalized to be "xubuntu". it's 'kind of' a distro. xfce4 is the specific window manager.
[04:04] <Astral119> I know this is probably a very noobish question, but how do i change the background image @ Kvirc? is it possible
[04:04] <bobenhaus> hmm ok thanks
[04:04] <ActionParsnip> xfce4 isnt a wm
[04:05] <Alen> escott, If I do not guess the size, then what?
[04:05] <Alen> please
[04:05] <Nach0z> .... ActionParsnip, ?
[04:05] <escott> Alen, i don't know, but it certainly wouldn't work. it might destroy the data
[04:05] <aBound> WM stands for Window Manager.
[04:06] <Alen> escott, forever?
[04:06] <Nach0z> yeah, I know that part, I just hadn't heard it referred to as anything BUT a window manager
[04:06] <Alen> o_O
[04:07] <zykotick9> Nach0z: DE Desktop Environment (it translates to Bloated WM)
[04:07] <aBound> Nach0z, From what I know XFCE is a GUI.
[04:07] <Nach0z> alrighty then.
[04:07] <Nach0z> soooo it's a window manager with a taskbar, start menu, and applets preconfigured
[04:07] <ActionParsnip> xfce4 is the desktop xfwm4 is the WM
[04:07] <Alen> escott, if I make a partition on the entire (full) disk, then the data will be lost?
[04:08] <Alen> escott, help please
[04:08] <ActionParsnip> although you can easily use compiz etc with xfce4
[04:08] <Alen> escott, very important data for me
[04:09] <vindav> ActionParsnip:  Do you have a hyperlink where I can download the version of Firefox that you posted please ?
[04:09] <Alen> escott, ?
[04:10] <Alen> Help Please My Bad!
[04:10] <ActionParsnip> vindav: its in the official repositories. If you added a PPA then remove it but the default version for firefox ix 10
[04:10] <ActionParsnip> vindav: there is no 'link' just install it like any other app
[04:10] <Alen> How recover logical delited partition in Linux?
[04:10] <LahLah> SMACK.
[04:10] <escott> Alen, you clearly dont understand how partitions and filesystems work. the filesystem puts a superblock which indicates where the rest of the data can be found at a fixed position from the start of the partition. the partition table is stored in a different part of the disk and does not affect the data stored on the disk. so your task is to get that partition start in exactly the correct place so the superblock is exactly where it needs
[04:10] <escott> to be so you can get a readable filesystem
[04:11] <wchan_> zykotick9: xdg-open works :) ... yah!
[04:11] <vindav> ActionParnip:   Are you saying I can just install it now from Ubuntu Software Centre ?
[04:11] <escott> Alen, a partition of the entire disk is just going to make your problem worse. you need to figure out where the deleted partition began and ended
[04:12] <Sir_Burpalot> Greetings, chaps.
[04:12] <Alen> escott, promt me please testdisk for ext4
[04:12] <LahLah> Make sure to categorize the small disc space in the left port so you don't get an overdriven file source.
[04:12] <Alen> escott, prompt me please testdisk for ext4
[04:13] <JPeterson> why do i get
[04:13] <JPeterson> Setting up flashplugin-downloader (11.0.1.152ubuntu1) ...
[04:13] <JPeterson> Downloading...
[04:13] <JPeterson> --2012-02-07 23:09:44--  http://archive.canonical.com/pool/partner/a/adobe-flashplugin/adobe-flashplugin_11.0.1.152.orig.tar.gz
[04:13] <LahLah> LISTEN TO ME PEOPLE.
[04:13] <FloodBot1> JPeterson: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[04:13] <LahLah> I know what I'm talking about.
[04:13] <escott> Alen, i dont know of one
[04:13] <ActionParsnip> vindav: yes and it will be v.10   if you run:  apt-cache policy firefox   you will see which will be installed (the latest version will be used)
[04:13] <Alen> escott, Advice please me please testdisk for ext4
[04:13] <Alen> :(
[04:13] <Sir_Burpalot> Why use ext4?
[04:13] <Sir_Burpalot> XFS is a hell of a lot better...
[04:13] <Alen> escott, just normal analog for ext4
[04:14] <Alen> escott, i cant blindfold do it
[04:15] <ActionParsnip> Sir_Burpalot: each file system has its advantages
[04:15] <Alen> Somebody HELP!
[04:15] <ActionParsnip> Sir_Burpalot: no file system is outright better or no other file system would be used
[04:15] <Alen> PLEASE!
[04:15] <vindav> ActionParsnip:   Ok...it seems terminal ran back with a response that I do have the PPA for the most recent version of Firefox should it be installed.  Does that make sense ?
[04:15] <Alen> Anlog For Testdisk For EXT4.
[04:15] <ritz> ubottu, !ask|Alen
[04:16] <ActionParsnip> vindav: then remove the ppa
[04:16] <ritz> Alen,  testdisk should work on ext4
[04:16] <Alen> ubottu plz help
[04:16] <Alen> i know
[04:16] <ritz> Alen,  but dont expect much .
[04:16] <Alen> i tested it
[04:16] <JPeterson> can someone explain this http://pastebin.com/uR49Hmhs apt-get install flashplugin-installer
[04:17] <ActionParsnip> Sir_Burpalot: XFS cannot be shrunk and its metadata operations make it slower than many other file systems
[04:17] <Sir_Burpalot> Attention, everyone. LahLah is my girlfriend.
[04:17] <Alen> And what me do?
[04:17] <Alen> I cant recover data?
[04:17] <Alen> (((
[04:17] <ActionParsnip> Alen: use your backups
[04:17] <Alen> i not have it
[04:18] <ActionParsnip> Alen: why not?
[04:18] <Alen> but data on disk , just partitions delited , how recover data?
[04:18] <Alen> i not have empty disk
[04:18] <ActionParsnip> Alen: you may find success with foremost. I suggest you get a backup. You have learned the value of backup the HARDEST way possible
[04:19] <ritz> Alen, testdisk
[04:19] <ritz> Alen,  it can detect and read files
[04:19] <ritz> or if you have a backup of the disk/or partition table
[04:19] <ActionParsnip> !info foremost
[04:20] <ritz> recreate it
[04:20] <Alen> I can make a backup of the one partition of the disk?
[04:20] <LahLah> Hi beautifuls.
[04:20] <LahLah> I really, really need some techy support.
[04:20] <ritz> Alen of the parition table on the disk
[04:20] <Alen> ritz, no
[04:20] <bobenhaus> what would be the apt-get command to get all of Xfce?
[04:20] <Alen> ritz, no work with ext4
[04:20] <ritz> Alex test disk, and patience , and plenty of hope mixed in then
[04:21] <ActionParsnip> Alen: once you restore what data you can, you can back it up. The idea of a backup is you make it when the data is healthy so when catastrophe happens you can simply restore the data
[04:21] <bobenhaus> !Xfce
[04:21] <JPeterson> can someone explain this http://pastebin.com/uR49Hmhs apt-get install flashplugin-installer
[04:21] <ActionParsnip> bobenhaus: you already have apps, so you can just run:  sudo apt-get install xfce4
[04:21] <bobenhaus> anctionparsnip: thanks
[04:21] <vindav> ActionParsnip:  how do I add or install http://ppa.launchpad.net/mozillateam/firefox-next/ubuntu/  to software resources when it doesn't allow me to ?
[04:21] <Alen> Help ME Please!
[04:22] <Alen> Analog "Testdisk" with support ext4!??!?!
[04:22] <ActionParsnip> JPeterson: try:  sudo apt-get -f install
[04:22] <bobenhaus> can I logoff of my desktop and still be connected to irc, apps etc...?
[04:22] <Alen> (((
[04:23] <bobenhaus> doubt it:(
[04:23] <zykotick9> bobenhaus: if you use terminal applications and use screen - sure.  GUI, no.
[04:23] <ActionParsnip> vindav: sudo add-apt-repository ppa:mozillateam/firefox-next; sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get install firefox
[04:23] <Alen> it's just idiotic why no one has written such a program?
[04:23] <bobenhaus> ahh I remember screen from back in the day
[04:23] <ActionParsnip> vindav: you will then get firefox 11
[04:24] <ActionParsnip> vindav: it was compiled 4 days ago
[04:24] <JPeterson> ActionParsnip: no difference http://pastebin.com/diff.php?i=UG1QcLvk
[04:25] <Alen> thx all! bb i go do suicide (((
[04:25] <ActionParsnip> Alen: if you'd had a backup, you'd be fine..
[04:26] <ActionParsnip> JPeterson: HTTP request sent, awaiting response... 404 Not Found   looks like the server is having issues
[04:26] <JPeterson> ActionParsnip: nope, no problem with server
[04:26] <JPeterson> http://archive.canonical.com/pool/partner/a/adobe-flashplugin/ works
[04:26] <ActionParsnip> JPeterson: what is the output of: uname -m
[04:26] <Alen> I have depressed, and now also date delited (((
[04:26] <uRock> after hitting ctrl+alt+F1 to drop to CLI from the login screen how do I get out of the CLI?
[04:27] <JPeterson> ActionParsnip: i686
[04:27] <EvilResistance> uRock:  ctrl+alt+f7 ?
[04:27] <ActionParsnip> JPeterson: sweet, give me a sec
[04:27] <uRock> thanx
[04:29] <ActionParsnip> JPeterson: http://paste.ubuntu.com/833516/
[04:29] <JPeterson> ActionParsnip: thx. but i want to know why it akss for archive.canonical.com/pool/partner/a/adobe-flashplugin/adobe-flashplugin_11.0.1.152.orig.tar.gz
[04:30] <uRock> I just upgraded via clean install from 10.04 to 11.10 without formatting /home. I entered the same username and such, but the install did not give me ownership of my files. What should I do to get permissions set where they belong for the account?
[04:30] <ActionParsnip> JPeterson: it needs that to get the plugin file which it then copies around the place
[04:30] <ActionParsnip> JPeterson: my 3 commands do it the old school way
[04:30] <vindav> ActionParsnip:  Ok, Firefox 11 is on-board now thanks to you.  By the way (BTW), what terminal command can I use to upload all the Firefox plugin and things that I had in before ?
[04:31] <Alen> bb all ((( bb world (((
[04:32] <ActionParsnip> vindav: you'll need to reinstate them, if the new version uses bookmarks.htm then you can simply copy the file from the old profile
[04:33] <ActionParsnip> vindav: I don't use firefox so I cannoty help much more.
[04:33] <escott> uRock, were the users created in the same order on the old and new system?
[04:33] <uRock> escott. yes
[04:34] <vindav> ActionParsnip:  Ok...since I have done the procedures to getting Firefox to work again, is Firefox 11 stable to work in Ubuntu 10.04 LTS or should I somehow wipe away the O/S and put in Ubuntu 11.10 and start over ?
[04:34] <JPeterson> ActionParsnip: I mean why it asks for a file that doesn't exist
[04:35] <ActionParsnip> vindav: its the beta release, so officially no. but as I said. I DON'T use Firefox
[04:35] <ActionParsnip> JPeterson: why what asks for a file?
[04:35] <ActionParsnip> JPeterson: maybe the installer needs updating if the zrchive has been updated
[04:35] <escott> uRock, ok. i was going to suggest that the uids may not match (the username is not stored in the filesystem only the uid). you can see what your id is with "id" and what the ids associated to the folders are with "stat filename" if those dont match you need to use chown to fix it
[04:35] <ActionParsnip> JPeterson: could report a bug
[04:36] <JPeterson> ActionParsnip: ok
[04:36] <IanWizard-Cloud> I installed E17, and connman, and now the regular network applet doesn't start in Unity
[04:36] <JPeterson> strange that nobody has noticed that such a package doesn't install
[04:36] <JPeterson> how many users are there if I was the first one that tried to install flash-downloader
[04:36] <uRock> escott, I'll check it out, thanx
[04:36] <ActionParsnip> JPeterson: maybe they have but didn't say or worked around
[04:37] <JPeterson> ActionParsnip: I guess
[04:37] <ActionParsnip> JPeterson: maybe the error has just this second appeared and you got hit by it
[04:37] <JPeterson> ActionParsnip: could be
[04:37] <ActionParsnip> JPeterson: not so strange ;)
[04:38] <superdave321> Does anyone have suggestions for a light weight browser that would do good on x11 over ssh?
[04:38] <Nach0z> well
[04:38] <Nach0z> if you like having pictures, chrome. if you don't need pictures or anything but text...
[04:38] <Nach0z> just use links2
[04:39] <Nach0z> and skip the x11 part
[04:39] <vindav> ActionParsnip:  Gotta new question for you...how does one remove the current Ubuntu version off my dual boot system which has Windows 7 and Ubuntu 10.04 LTS resident ?  I have GRUB.
[04:39] <superdave321> Nach0z: Cool. Thanks.
[04:40] <ActionParsnip> vindav: how did you install it?
[04:40] <ActionParsnip> superdave321: arora or midori are light and awesome
[04:40] <vindav> ActionParsnip:  I installed Ubuntu 10.04 LTS after installing Windows 7 using a CD.
[04:41] <superdave321> ActionParsnip: sweet, thanks!
[04:42] <patrick_> im thinking something along the lines of start from win repair cd, and fixmbr  fixboot  might do wha you want if jsut nuking the nix install is the goal.
[04:42] <Nach0z> vindav: you could go into windows and set your win7 SYSTEM partition as the active partition :|
[04:43] <ActionParsnip> vindav: boot to the windows OS and delete the Ubuntu partitions. If you are not reinstating another OS you WILL need to reinstate the Windows bootloader
[04:43] <ActionParsnip> vindav: obviously deleting the partition destroys the data so ensure your important data is backed up first
[04:43] <Q_Continuum> Ubuntu 11.10 64-bit Desktop, Intel Atom/NM10 Chipset w/Intel GMA 3150.  System not detecting GPU, what driver do I need to install to get more than 1024x768 out of this thing? (Nettop barebones)
[04:44] <JPeterson> ActionParsnip: question was asked yesterday http://askubuntu.com/questions/102000/apt-get-always-fails-with-error-404-not-found-over-a-package-flashplugin-dow , problem is that my mirror was not updated, this worked http://askubuntu.com/questions/37753/how-can-i-get-apt-to-use-a-mirror-close-to-me
[04:45] <ActionParsnip> Q_Continuum: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1693384   xorg edgers ppa is mentioned here, may help but its quite experimental
[04:46] <vindav> ActionParsnip:  All data is backed up on my NAS.  Pardon me for asking since I never performed this procedure, how does one just go into Window 7 and set my SYSTEM partition as the active partition ? Do I put in the Window 7 disk to do this ?  How do I delete the Ubuntu partitions ? How do I reinstate the Windows bootloader ?
[04:46] <ActionParsnip> Q_Continuum: less hardcore is add the boot option: acpi_osi=Linux    may help
[04:47] <ActionParsnip> vindav: the active partition will more than likely already be the windows one, the windows bootloader has been overwritten by grub
[04:47] <ActionParsnip> vindav: when you delete ubuntu you delete the config for grub, and your system won't boot
[04:47] <patrick_> I would install the win recovery console personally, do this from within windows, if you have the windows disk, it provides many tools to maintain win.    http://support.microsoft.com/kb/216417
[04:47] <ActionParsnip> vindav: you willl need your win7 disk to reinstate the botloader
[04:48] <mdel> where can I find the default config files for an installed package?
[04:48] <vindav> ActionParsnip;  So, when I put in the Window 7 disk, how do I reinstate the bootloader ?
[04:49] <bobenhaus> dunno if I like Xbuntu or not.
[04:49] <bobenhaus> hmm
[04:49] <patrick_> http://support.microsoft.com/kb/927392    might be of use
[04:49] <unimaxlin> Hi all
[04:50] <patrick_>  /waves
[04:50] <cfhowlett> unimaxlin: greetings
[04:50] <unimaxlin> I am need a help to with easy dns resolution
[04:51] <cfhowlett> unimaxlin: I always love it when I see in the first line that the investigation is COMPLETELY over my head...:)
[04:51] <cfhowlett> :)
[04:52] <unimaxlin> we have a lot of machine in my work evironment like p1.data.kk.ss.unimaxlin.com  p2.data.kk.ss.unimaxlin.com  i want to ssh the server by simply typying ssh p1 how can i configure it please help
[04:52] <unimaxlin> #ssh p1
[04:52] <unimaxlin> any ideas..
[04:53] <cfhowlett> !server|unimaxlin
[04:53] <ActionParsnip> vindav: ask in ##windows for that
[04:53] <ActionParsnip> unimaxlin: add an entry in /etc/hosts for the ip and the short name
[04:54] <unimaxlin> we have a 10000 server not possible to add the ips
[04:54] <Guest7716> unimaxlin perhaps an alias?
[04:54] <vindav> ActionParsnip:  Thank you for all your help and advice tonight.  I really appreciate you and your effort, patience, and volunteer time.  Have a great night !! :D
[04:54] <unimaxlin> is there any shortcuts
[04:54] <unimaxlin> how to add alias
[04:54] <patrick_> yw vindav, take care
[04:54] <unimaxlin> please give me a sample
[04:54] <uRock> Trying the chown my /home. I tried [code]sudo chown -R user:user *.*[/code] but that did nothing, what should I try next?
[04:55] <EvilResistance> uRock:  why do you want to chown /home ?
[04:55] <andrew_au> Hi, I was wanting some help with setting up a VPN server and capturing traffic from a client using wireshark. Can anyone help out?
[04:55] <EvilResistance> uRock:  i think /home/ itself needs to be owned by root...
[04:55] <Guest7716> unimaxlin: in debian in .bashrc
[04:55] <uRock> EvilResistance, because it says I do not own anything
[04:56] <unimaxlin> can you give a sample
[04:56] <unimaxlin> entry
[04:56] <uRock> EvilResistance, just trying to chown the user's home
[04:56] <EvilResistance> uRock:  sudo chown --recursive youruser:youruser /home/youruser/
[04:56] <unimaxlin> for  p1.data.kk.ss.unimaxlin.com
[04:56] <uRock> thanx EvilResistance
[04:56] <EvilResistance> uRock:  remember to replace 'youruser' with the username of your user
[04:56] <EvilResistance> :P
[04:57] <EvilResistance> uRock:  but under no circumstances should you chown just /home
[04:57] <EvilResistance> because if im' not mistaken that should be owned by root...
[04:57] <uRock> EvilResistance, understood, thanx
[04:58] <escott> unimaxlin, http://collectiveidea.com/blog/archives/2011/02/04/how-to-ssh-aliases/
[04:59] <unimaxlin> @escott thanks a lot
[04:59] <Guest7716> unimaxlin:  add line: "sshOwn() { ssh $1.data.kk.ss.unimaxlin.com }"
[05:00] <uglyoldbob> how would i determine if a certain compiler, say "i586-mingw32msvc-g++" was installed with a shell script?
[05:01] <ActionParsnip> uglyoldbob: ask in #bash too :)
[05:02] <escott> uglyoldbob, why not try and execute it and check $?
[05:03] <escott> uglyoldbob, stackoverflow says to use hash
[05:03] <escott> uglyoldbob, http://stackoverflow.com/questions/592620/check-if-a-program-exists-from-a-bash-script
[05:09] <Guest7716> unimaxlin: I've checked it now. The folowing line in ~/bashrc will work:
[05:10] <Guest7716> sshO () { ssh "$*.data.kk.ss.unimaxlin.com"; }
[05:12] <raddy_> Hello Everybody
[05:13] <raddy_> I installed postgresql 8.4 in ubuntu 10.04 server
[05:14] <raddy_> But, /etc/postgresql/8.4/ folder not created
[05:14] <raddy_> Only /etc/postgresql-common/ present.
[05:16] <raddy_> Can anybody suggest what could the problem
[05:19] <FloodBot1> !netsplit
[05:24] <dr--willis> wow its quiet...
[05:25] <andrew_au> dr--willis:
[05:25] <ActionParsnip> dr--willis: too quiet
[05:25] <andrew_au> *I know :P
[05:26] <aBound> You made it quiet. :P
[05:26] <bobenhaus> hello. does anyone know how to I remove xfce4 from my system?
[05:27] <andrew_au> sorry to repost this but I came on to get some help with setting up a VPN server and capturing traffic from a client using wireshark. Can anyone help out?
[05:27] <bobenhaus> !xfce4 remove
[05:27] <bazhang> bobenhaus, and leave what?
[05:27] <bobenhaus> I just want the option to be removed as an option from the login screen?
[05:27] <dr--willis> just the login screen?
[05:28] <bobenhaus> yeah
[05:28] <dr--willis> or you want it actually removed
[05:28] <DesignerGuy> is there any command where I can tell if that my server is listening on an IP?
[05:28] <Q_Continuum> ActionParsnip: both the ppa and the boot option acpi_osi=linux didn't help with the Intel GMA 3150 on 11.10 x64 :-/
[05:28] <Q_Continuum> Here I thought Intel GPUs "just worked" and it was the AMD/nVidia ones that required effort to make function :-(
[05:28] <bazhang> bobenhaus, yes, and remaining will be what? gnome kde4 or what
[05:28] <bobenhaus> I would like to remove if possible
[05:28] <bobenhaus> The default 11.10
[05:28] <bazhang> !puregnome | bobenhaus
[05:28] <dr--willis> lighdm gets its list of sessions from  some foo.desktop files if you JUST want to remove the entry from the login scrfeen find the xfce.desktop file in one of the sesssions directories
[05:28] <dr--willis> and remove it.
[05:29] <Lirth> Does anyone know how to force the computer clock to display decimal time?
[05:29] <bobenhaus> ok thanks
[05:29] <dr--willis> otherwise fire up the package manager and remove whatever xfce rel;ated packages you fild. and perhaps reinstall ubuntu-desktop to be sure to pull in any gnome packages that you might accidnetly remove
[05:29] <FloodBot1> !netsplit
[05:30] <dr--willis> unless you are real tight on space. i dont see much harm in leaveing xfce installed
[05:31] <bobenhaus> ok thanks
[05:32] <zykotick9> Lirth: decimal time?  do you mean "unix" (aka epoch) time?  that is "date +%s"
[05:33] <Lirth> zykotick9: I'm not sure what unix/epoch time is. Wikipedia has a good description of it, but basically there are 10 hours a day and 100 minutes an hour.
[05:34] <dr--willis> and you need to use this for?
[05:34] <zykotick9> Lirth: "metric" comes to time, never heard of it - doubt gnu/linux can do it, maybe.
[05:35] <Q_Continuum> So this Intel GMA 3150 under 11.10 x64 won't be detected, and I'm limited to 800x600 and 1024x768.  Any ideas on a fix?
[05:35] <dr--willis> on ly seen metric time basicvally as a footnote/system variant in some magazines/artacles on metric systems
[05:35] <Lirth> zykotick9: I tried looking up metric time, that isn't what I'm going for. That has 100 hours a day.
[05:36] <zykotick9> Lirth: i was actually just trying to make fun of what you wanted (calling it metric time), i certainly didn't know there was a real metric time as well...
[05:36] <Lirth> zykotick9: yeah... I'm trying to write sci-fi and this is how I get into it. Futuristic time methods...
[05:37] <zykotick9> Lirth: well, check out Unix time, it's pretty useless/futuristic ;)
[05:38] <dr--willis> Pi Time.. :)
[05:40] <matheusrn89> someone can help me?
[05:42] <Dogears> Hi everyone,
[05:46] <Mavrick95> hello everyone!
[05:46] <Lirth> matheusrn89: Try asking your question first and then we'll know.
[05:46] <scottj> hey, how do I check if there are any ssh connections into my computer? I Just had a couple xterms appear on my screen, wondering if I've been hacked
[05:46] <dr--willis> what was in the xterms>? Normally theres x security features that keep a ssh sessiomn from running gui apps  if a differnt user is logged in. (or even the same user)
[05:46] <Mavrick95> i am experiencing the "black screen at boot" issue, i blame the "amd 64 alternate" driver i downloaded right before this mess started. How do i get to solve this issue? Can Anyone hlp?
[05:46] <dr--willis> what amd-64-alternate driver?
[05:46] <Mavrick95> it is one that was/is availabe through synaptic
[05:46] <zykotick9> !nomodeset | Mavrick95
[05:46] <dr--willis> you can alwyas remove the driver via the jockey-text tool from the console ibelive
[05:46] <Mavrick95> yes, the thing is that "nomodeset" doesn't work, it stills goes to black screen after ubuntu image
[05:46] <dr--willis> I seem to recall there being a ati driver, and some ati-post-release diver
[05:46] <Dogears> Can you use Remmina to RDP to a windows server and view the actual current session desktop of the server not a new session?
[05:46] <dr--willis> !text
 i cant get to remove anything because i can not get to the desktop, so i can run the terminal
[05:46] <dr--willis> Mavrick95:  use the console/text/recovery mode
[05:49] <matheusrn89> My english skill is low, so sorry for the mistakes, but so. My question is the i need to turn off my notebook screen's, but when i press the button with this function in the keyboard nothing happens (it only works at Windows, and i'm no longer using it). There is any way to turn it off?
[05:49] <scottj> are there any keybindings in X11 to open an xterm that work regardless of window manager? (trying to figure out why a couple windows would have popped open on my screen)
[05:49] <Nimanicka> Howdy
[05:49] <dr--willis> scottj:  not that i know of. such things would be window manager, or file manager specific
[05:50] <zykotick9> scottj: keybinding for terminal are often DE/WM specific
[05:50] <Lirth> matheusrn89: Are you using a second monitor?
[05:50] <Mavrick95> pardon my ignorance, but selecting recovery mode start on GRUB menu only gets me to another menu
[05:51] <matheusrn89> Lirth: no, the one i want to turn off is the monitor of the notebook it self
[05:52] <Lirth> matheusrn89: Try using the "Displays" option. It allows you to turn on and off monitors and should let you disable the notebook's monitor.
[05:52] <dr--willis> Mavrick95:  and one of those should get you to a console. or try the 'text' option the bot mention ed earlier.
[05:53] <Echointhewin> i have i hope to be a simple quesion, How do i add my user name to another group?
[05:54] <graft> so, i can show certain unicode characters in my console just fine, but they won't show up with less, i think because it has encoding issues
[05:54] <graft> how do i get less to show what my console does?
[05:54] <graft> Echointhewin: you can do adduser <user> <group>
[05:55] <Echointhewin> ok i will try that now
[05:55] <matheusrn89> Lirth: My GPU is a Nvidia, so i think it's complicated to do it by the "Displays" Option
[05:55] <urlin2u> Mavrick95, so what is your goal here?
[05:55] <zykotick9> matheusrn89: nvidia-settings should have what you're looking for then
[05:56] <Mavrick95> dr--willis: the recovery mode menu (says "limited read-only") shows only these option: resume (which boots also to black screen), fsck, remount, and root. i am new to ubuntu, still learning the terminology...
[05:56] <matheusrn89> I think in trouble to explain what i want to do
[05:56] <matheusrn89> let me try again
[05:57] <Mavrick95> urlin2u: i would like additional support for the black screen at boot issue because none of the solution availaber on the surface web satisfied me.
[05:59] <urlin2u> Mavrick95, it looks like dr--willis is directing you this is a great helper I hate to get in the middle of help your already getting.
[05:59] <matheusrn89> i want to turn screen off temporarily, like to save energy
[05:59] <Echointhewin> ty again graft later all
[05:59] <dr--willis> im also at work.. at my real job.. so mayhave to leave at any time.
[05:59] <Mavrick95> urlin2u: thanks anyway! :-)
[05:59] <mobhero> hi
[05:59] <dr--willis> I think the remount, then root, items get you to a working root shell]
[05:59] <dr--willis> I alwyas just use the 'text' option by hand/
[06:00] <dr--willis> !text
[06:00] <dr--willis> following the nomodset guide. use 'nomodeset text' instead of just nomodeset :) gets me to a text login
[06:01] <dr--willis> i rarely if ever use the actual recovery options
[06:01] <matheusrn89> hello
[06:01] <matheusrn89> ?
[06:03] <mobhero_> hi
[06:04] <Mavrick95> dr--willis: ok, i tried remount, and it was successful. it returned me to recovery menu, now i have new options: clean, dpkg (which, i think by what i could learn, can purge the faulty driver and heal everything), grub, and netroot. what can i do now?
[06:04] <VectorX> hi, where would the line mentioned here go http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?s=fa94d8d425a1be15ca820c6a1395674c&p=7321672&postcount=9 ?
[06:07] <dr--willis> I think the remount, then root, items get you to a working root shell
[06:07] <dr--willis> then you can use the jockey-text or apt-get remove commands
[06:07] <dr--willis> to try ti get back to the old driver.
[06:08] <Gskellig> I want to reverse the contents of a file, that is; line 1 goes from the top to the bottom and visa versa
[06:09] <Gskellig> preferably in a script, as it is being written
[06:09] <Gskellig> basically want to force a file to prepend instead of append
[06:09] <dr--willis> Gskellig:  there used tobe a 'tac' command that was a reverse cat
[06:10] <zykotick9> dr--willis: Gskellig s/used tobe(sic)/is/
[06:10] <Gskellig> wait what
[06:10] <zykotick9> Gskellig: there is a command called tac
[06:10] <dr--willis> or check out the fifo filo (i think) pipes
[06:11] <dr--willis> been ages since ive used  the fifo stuff.
[06:11] <Mavrick95> dr--willis: thanks, this way i could invoke the apt-get command. and as a first try, i entered "remove fglrx" (which is a proprietary driver behind ALL graphics issues lol)
[06:11] <dr--willis> ive frogotten 4x what i know...
[06:11] <zykotick9> dr--willis: i have the same issue ;)  taking notes help
[06:12] <dr--willis> Mavrick95:  jockey-text has a list and remove feature. iuts a text interface to the gui of addational drivers. If you know the fglrx pacakge name you can apt-get remove IT. be sure to rename/deletes  your existing /etc/X11/xorg.conf also
[06:13] <dr--willis> zykotick9:  half of what i rember is from my college days of using SUN systems. :) years ago
[06:13]  * dr--willis will take obscure Unix commands for $400 alex...
[06:14] <zykotick9> dr--willis: daily-double ;)
[06:15] <urlin2u> !gold star
[06:15] <Mavrick95> dr--willis: when i use the "jockey-text" command instead of removing the fglrx (i did not remove it yet), i get the "fail to connect to D-BuS"
[06:15] <urlin2u> almost as good as a cookie
[06:16] <Gskellig> bash scripting is way over my head
[06:16] <dr--willis> no idea on that Mavrick95  you could just remove the fglrx package, and remove the x11 config file and reboot and see.. at least now ya know how to get to the console to try to fix things
[06:17] <GVolkmann> Greetings all.  Can anyone suggest a chromium release intended for public kiosks?  I need to lock these down quite a bit.
[06:17] <dr--willis> GVolkmann:  ive seen several koisk disrtos at the disrtowatch page listings.
[06:18] <ActionParsnip> GVolkmann: how do you mean chromium release?
[06:21] <Mavrick95> dr--willis: yeah, i know how to remove the fglrx, but about this x11 file i do not know, can you tell me how?
[06:21] <dr--willis> bbl. work time
[06:27] <Mavrick95> urlin2u: hi, dr--willis had to quit, probably because of work. can you help me?
[06:28] <urlin2u> Mavrick95, not an area I know a lot about I wish I could. :)
[06:28] <Mavrick95> urlin2u: if you could tell me the commands to use to rename x11 conf file, i would be much appreciated.
[06:29] <Mavrick95> urlin2u: ok
[06:29] <urlin2u> Mavrick95, out of knowledge area really.
[06:30] <Kayetana> hi all. I'm new to irc and also linux, so I apologize in advance if I ask any dumb questions. I am fairly tech savvy, though
[06:30] <eldubiousmung> When doing a wubi migration, do I list the partition NAME or LABEL?
[06:30] <Mavrick95> urlin2u: its ok, its all right. :-)
[06:30] <Mavrick95> urlin2u: i just wish i can heal my computer after this
[06:31] <Kayetana> I have a new laptop with Windows 7 and I'd like to try out ubuntu on an external hard drive so I downloaded the iso and burned it to a disk but when I reboot, I get the initial install screen and then the whole screen goes completely black
[06:31] <Kayetana> any ideas?
[06:31] <urlin2u> Mavrick95, if you come on to the channel during the day US time it is really busy, and you will probably get quick help then.
[06:32] <bazhang> !nomodeset | Kayetana try this
[06:32] <Kayetana> I'll try that - thanks!
[06:33] <khajahussain> @eldubi crete a partion from window's manage, but dont format it. put your cd and restart is. It will pick  the free partion.
[06:35] <eldubiousmung> I'm doing an automatic migration from within ubuntu using "sudo bash wubi-move-2.1.sh (partition) (swap)"
[06:35] <pnorman> I've got a LSI2008 controller in my ubuntu box and it correctly sees the drives connected with the mpt2sas module, but I'd like to be able to create a raid array using it. Does anyone know how I'd go about doing so?
[06:35] <eldubiousmung> I have the partitions made, just mounted them, now I gotta see if it worked, brb
[06:38] <ronin___> hi, when i use "tar zxvf filename.tar.gz "
[06:39] <eldubiousmung> each time I do the sudo bash wubi-move-2.1.sh (partition) it says it can't find such file or directory :(
[06:39] <ronin___> I've got error This doesn't look like a tar archive
[06:39] <ronin___> any suggestion
[06:40] <ActionParsnip> ronin___: try extracting it with unp
[06:40] <khajahussain> @eldubiousmung .... do you have windows installed on your system?
[06:40] <ActionParsnip> ronin___: ronin___ or the file may be corrupted, is there an MD5sum you can use to check it
[06:40] <ronin___> ActionParsnip: I need tar command
[06:41] <ronin___> ActionParsnip: could you help about MD5sum
[06:41] <ActionParsnip> ronin___: install unp then use:  unp filename    unp will look at the file and extract it accordingly
[06:41] <ronin___> ActionParsnip: could you help about MD5sum, please?
[06:41] <ActionParsnip> ronin___: is there an MD5SUM file for the archive which you can compare?
[06:42] <ActionParsnip> ronin___: i'd try unp first tbh
[06:42] <khajahussain> eldubiousmung ... i got to go. connect with any one else.
[06:43] <ronin___> ActionParsnip: I use md5sum command I've got two reply 1.f696daa812cbb348ef4d5f26a28e57f9 and 2.filename.tar.gz
[06:45] <ActionParsnip> ronin___: ok, is there a hash of the file you can compare to online for the file?
[06:45] <Mavrick95> does anyone know how to rename/delete the /etc/x11/xorg.conf file while in console?
[06:46] <ronin___> ActionParsnip: I download file from openhatch.org website
[06:46] <ActionParsnip> Mavrick95: sudo mv /etc/x11/xorg.conf /etc/x11/xorg.conf_old
[06:46] <assains> здравствуйте господа
[06:46] <Kronsby> hello
[06:47] <Kronsby> Hell yeah
[06:47] <Kronsby> just got irssi set up
[06:47] <ActionParsnip> ronin___: source is irrelevant, is there an MD5 sum for the file
[06:47] <Kronsby> and mpd
[06:47] <ActionParsnip> ronin___: if there is and the hash matches then the file is healthy
[06:47] <ActionParsnip> Kronsby: wtg
[06:47] <Kronsby> ?
[06:47] <shrys> Using Ubuntu 10.10. Headphones's aren't working after an update. Googling didn't help. alsamixer looks fine. Any ideas please?
[06:47] <ActionParsnip> Kronsby: did you not play secret of mana on snes?
[06:48] <Kronsby> no :(
[06:48] <ronin___> ActionParsnip: thx
[06:48] <Kronsby> I wish I had
[06:48] <ActionParsnip> Kronsby: wtg == way to go == well done
[06:48] <Kronsby> oh thank you
[06:48] <ActionParsnip> Kronsby: you should, its a sweeeet game
[06:48] <Kronsby> how is everyone doing?
[06:48] <ActionParsnip> Kronsby: tired but home time soon :)
[06:48] <Kronsby> i have an snes emulator on my kindle fire
[06:48] <Kronsby> and thats awesome
[06:48] <ActionParsnip> ronin___: install unp and try extracting it with that
[06:48] <Kronsby> It is late where I am ActionParsnip
[06:49] <ActionParsnip> Kronsby: 6:48am here
[06:49] <ronin___> ActionParsnip: I did, thx
[06:49] <Kronsby> oh man
[06:49] <Kronsby> night shift?
[06:49] <ActionParsnip> Kronsby: 12 hour shift
[06:49] <Kronsby> dayum 7-7?
[06:49] <ActionParsnip> 4 on - 4 off
[06:49] <Kronsby> ahhh
[06:49] <Kronsby> I just got a tech support job
[06:49] <Kronsby> pretty happy bout it
[06:49] <ActionParsnip> Kronsby: nice :)
[06:50] <ActionParsnip> Kronsby: wtg ;)
[06:50] <Kronsby> what do you do?
[06:50] <ActionParsnip> Kronsby: noc engineer
[06:50] <Kronsby> wow
[06:50] <Kronsby> sounds intimidating
[06:50] <ActionParsnip> Kronsby: just make sure everything stays up and connected as much as possible :)
[06:50] <ActionParsnip> Kronsby: you?
[06:51] <Kronsby> IT. Fixing computers at my university
[06:52] <ActionParsnip> Kronsby: fun fun fun
[06:52] <Kronsby> my ncmp++ would do random songs one time and now it decided not to
[06:52] <Kronsby> anyone else use it here?
[06:55] <erush> Why I get discounted from Wifi when I connect my LAN ? I am using ath9k for wifi.
[06:56] <ActionParsnip> erush: its the default behaviour in network manager
[06:57] <ActionParsnip> erush: if you define the wired connection in /etc/network/interfaces   network manager will ignore the interface and you'll be ok
[06:57] <erush> ActionParsnip: What should I do to have multiple networks togather ?
[06:57] <ActionParsnip> erush: ^
[06:57] <Kronsby> ^
[06:58] <ActionParsnip> erush: if you connect the ethernet to the same subnet as the wireless connection you will cause issues
[06:59] <erush> Then How would I manage to bridge them togather ? bridg-utils ?
[06:59] <ActionParsnip> erush: so connect to 2 routers using 2 internet connections to use both as 1 link?
[07:00] <erush> No, use wifi to get connect to internet and make connect the LAN to internet (a router.)
[07:00] <erush> wait.
[07:00] <erush> that sentance didn't make sense.
[07:01] <ActionParsnip> erush: so share the wireless connection like a wireless router
[07:01] <isaac_> Hi, I'd be glad if someone could help me. My problem is wubi broke, and since I can't figure out how to fix it I figure I'll just reformat and install it correctly. Is it possible to copy all of the files to an external, and then replace the ones on the fresh install and it would be just like before? Thanks in advance
[07:02] <ActionParsnip> isaac_: why do you not have the data backed up?
[07:02] <ActionParsnip> isaac_: as in, already backed up?
[07:03] <isaac_> No, not already backed up. I would plan on booting from a live cd and transfering to an external drive
[07:03] <erush> ActionParsnip: Yup, exactly.
[07:03] <ActionParsnip> !ICS | erush
[07:03] <ActionParsnip> isaac_: But why is it not already backed up now?
[07:03] <isaac_> I didn't know I was supposed to back it up regularly.
[07:04] <isaac_> Nor did I know how.
[07:04] <ActionParsnip> isaac_: if your drive motor fails and the drive doesn't spin up, where is your data?
[07:04] <ActionParsnip> isaac_: if you can copy data to a USB drive, you can backup
[07:04] <isaac_> Well it doesn't have anything that important, I just don't want to have to setup apache and etc again.
[07:04] <ActionParsnip> isaac_: you can mount the wubi image from the ubuntu live CD.
[07:05] <isaac_> So, just going in and copying it all and then pasting on a fresh install will restore everything?
[07:05] <ActionParsnip> isaac_: I suggest you REGULARLY backup your data, then you wouldn't have this situation.
[07:05] <isaac_> But I can back it up now, can't I? I just need to know if it works to copy over a fresh install with the old one
[07:05] <Kronsby> what network is this on?
[07:06] <zykotick9> Kronsby: freenode
[07:07] <isaac_> So just copying everything from the old install to a fresh one will have all the settings and programs the same, ActionParsnip ?
[07:08] <eldubiousmung> Alright, I migrated ubuntu to a partition. Should I go into windows and uninstall ubuntu there?
[07:10] <ActionParsnip> isaac_: yes, you can mount the wubi disk image in liveCD, like I said..
[07:10] <isaac_> But copying it over to a fresh install doesn't break anything?
[07:10] <isaac_> This wouldn't work in windows, so I don't know if it would work in linux.
[07:11] <Kronsby> exit
[07:12] <urlin2u> eldubiousmung, the migration scripts I have seen moves it are you sure it is still there, this is with wubi installs.
[07:12] <ActionParsnip> isaac_: it should work if you copy over the configs
[07:12] <isaac_> Ok, thank you very much :)
[07:12] <ActionParsnip> isaac_: you can always backup the default files and you can roll back
[07:12] <eldubiousmung> I haven't checked yet, I just wanted to make sure before I went into windows and messed anything up
[07:13] <eldubiousmung> but knowing that, I'll go check
[07:13] <urlin2u> eldubiousmung, was this a wubi, and did you use a script from the ubuntu forums to move it?
[07:13] <eldubiousmung> yes and yes
[07:14] <urlin2u> eldubiousmung, the thread tells you what happened.
[07:14] <eldubiousmung> Doh! In other words....RTFM -_-
[07:14] <urlin2u> eldubiousmung, lol :)
[07:26] <m4k> Which packages are needed to connecting phone via bluetooth
[07:28] <m4k> Which packages are needed to connecting phone via bluetooth
[07:31] <m4k> Which packages are needed to connecting phone via bluetooth
[07:43] <urlin2u> I repeat myself when under stress, I repeat myself when under stress, I repeat myself when under stress
[07:43] <urlin2u> :)
[07:43] <carson_> can Deadbeef be installed on ubuntu?
[07:43] <carson_> I can't seem to find it
[07:44] <carson_> anyone?
[07:56] <somsip> carson: PPA only
[08:01] <mac_osx> Hello
[08:01] <robert> hai
[08:01] <sorin_> hi,i have an workstation ThinkCentre A52,md.8297 and i want to know how much memory-ram- can put on my machine
[08:01] <mac_osx> Anyone know of a newbie chat room for Ubuntu?
[08:01] <kholerabbi_> hi is ubuntu suitable for an atom netbook, or is there a more lightweight disro I should be using?
[08:03] <urlin2u> kholerabbi_, I have a acer d250 with an atom 1.6, 2 gigs ram ubunt runs great.
[08:03] <auronandace> !lubuntu | kholerabbi_
[08:05] <_monk_> hello friends
[08:06] <_monk_> gnome 3 is very stable now
[08:06] <_monk_> its almost complete now, no?
[08:07] <_monk_> networkmanager has some dumb bugs
[08:07] <_monk_> with 3g dongles
[08:07] <_monk_> this worries me
[08:07] <_monk_> its a confussion bug
[08:08] <_monk_> it should be resolved together
[08:08] <_monk_> it works on gentoo
[08:08] <_monk_> that may be gnome 3
[08:09] <_monk_> ubuuntu is perfect
[08:09] <zykotick9> !enter | _monk_
[08:09] <dsdsdsfdsdse> Hello, is anyone available to answer a few (hopefully quick) questions?
[08:09] <_monk_> sorry
[08:09] <zykotick9> !ask | dsdsdsfdsdse
[08:10] <Amdpc> Hello World..!
[08:10] <dsdsdsfdsdse> Sorry about that, ubottu. Thank you! I'm trying to figure out how to disable all external media (USB mounting and any CD drives) for a specific user.
[08:11] <_monk_> hello Amdpc
[08:11] <zykotick9> dsdsdsfdsdse: removing the user from the plugdev group "might" do that?
[08:11] <_monk_> permissions my friend
[08:11] <_monk_> remove from group
[08:12] <damo22> if 2 text files differ only by extra lines, can i use rsync to add the extra lines over the network?
[08:12] <zykotick9> damo22: i'm under the impression, rsync will pick the newer of the 2 versions...
[08:13] <dsdsdsfdsdse> Thank you, zykotick9 and _monk_. Oddly, the account isn't currently a member of the plugdev group. I disabled everything under "Advanced Settings" in Users Settings, but the user can still automount USB drives.
[08:13] <damo22> thats lame, what about if you have a 100mb log file on one machine and you want to sync the last meg over the network without copyin the whole file
[08:13] <ubuntu> kurwa mac
[08:13] <zykotick9> dsdsdsfdsdse: if fstab does the drive in question have the user permission?
[08:14] <dsdsdsfdsdse> zykotick9: Can you ask the question in another way? I'm not sure what fstab is, I'm sorry
[08:15] <zykotick9> dsdsdsfdsdse: that's not the issue then.  sorry i don't have any other suggestions.  good luck.
[08:15] <ubuntu> wypierdalac
[08:15] <dsdsdsfdsdse> zykotick9: Thank you for your help, all the same.
[08:16] <ubuntu> ............,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,.................
[08:16] <ubuntu> .,..,.,,
[08:16] <zykotick9> ubuntu: please stop
[08:16] <ubuntu> ;l;;l
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[08:16] <ubuntu> l;l;l
[08:16] <FloodBot1> ubuntu: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[08:16] <ubuntu> ;l;l
[08:16] <jimmy_birer> SON OF A BITCH UBUNTU USER
[08:16] <mac_osx> I have been hacked. WHen I installed 11.10 over 11.04, another user + guest was discovered, but in the User profile it doesn't show them. It requires a password. What should I do?
[08:16] <jimmy_birer> FEDORA IS BETTER
[08:16] <FloodBot1> jimmy_birer: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[08:17] <jimmy_birer> YOU WANT UNITY?
[08:17] <ubuntu> mbmbjhbjhb
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[08:17] <jimmy_birer> NIGGGGEEEEEEEEEEEEERSSSSSSS
[08:17] <jimmy_birer> NIGGGGEEEEEEEEEEEEERSSSSSSS
[08:17] <FloodBot1> jimmy_birer: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[08:17] <ubuntu> ........................................
[08:19] <mac_osx> Could someone offer a little advice please?
[08:23] <lapsusbrutus> I installed bat and bacula. is there a bug with the package?  it refuses to listen to port 9101.. netstat -lntp shows this, but listens to 9102 and ..3
[08:23] <Jordan_U> mac_osx: If you have an Ubuntu related support question just ask.
[08:24] <lapsusbrutus> did a test install on debian too, and there it worked.
[08:24] <lapsusbrutus> bat crashes on startup.. needs 9101 to function
[08:26] <zzecool> mac_osx: just ask
[08:28] <zzecool> lapsusbrutus:  are you sure that uuntu use the same version as debian ?
[08:28] <zzecool> ubuntu*
[08:28] <lapsusbrutus> zzecool: probably not
[08:29] <zzecool> then how do you compare
[08:29] <Huei> Good morning, anyone here know if a bash script fired off using udev has some sort of maximum execution time ?
[08:29] <zzecool> probably the ubuntu verison has a abug
[08:29] <lapsusbrutus> zzecool: I diffed the configfiles,.  no serious differences
[08:29] <zzecool> try to find a "ppa" that has a more updated version or the latest
[08:29] <zzecool> and install form there
[08:29] <WaltherFI> Does Ubuntu support USB DAC's and can it output bit-perfect 24bit/96kHz audio to it?
[08:30] <Angablade> [MESSAGE TO ALL CHATTERS] If you have a question reguarding ubuntu, or software used within it, please feel free to just ask. Our crack team of volunteers will be more than happy to help. Just remember to highlight when speaking with someone.
[08:30] <Angablade> That should help a little.
[08:30] <zzecool> Angablade: Is ubuntu gonna rule the world ?
[08:31] <zzecool> ;p
[08:31] <waynhall> I've been using Empathy with SIP. Does it support call transfers?
[08:31] <lapsusbrutus> Angablade: It is ruling the world already :)  together with its fellow distros
[08:32] <Angablade> It is not. Simple fact that it's just not the norm for usage. Otherwise people wouldn't have so many support questions on there try.
[08:32] <zzecool> hoho True story
[08:32] <Angablade> But yes, overall. Linux can rule the world.
[08:32] <_monk_> is there any networkmanager coders in here?
[08:32] <_monk_> why dont it work with 3g dongles automaticly on gnome3
[08:33] <Angablade> There are no drivers installed on stock releases. Stuff like that needs to be installed by hand. Not everyone needs it, so it's not shipped with it.
[08:33] <vincentng> guyz
[08:33] <_monk_> it works but the timeout in connection attempt is the problem I think+
[08:33] <vincentng> hello
[08:33] <vincentng> i accidently delete my home folder
[08:33] <vincentng> how to restore my thunderbird emails in it?
[08:34] <Angablade> vincentng, open thunderbird and resync
[08:34] <zykotick9> vincentng: i hope you have a backup, good luck.
[08:34] <vincentng> i lost everything in my harddisk
[08:34] <ubuntu> pozdrowienia z Polski:)
[08:34] <vincentng> im thinking of recovery harddisk with testdisk
[08:34] <vincentng> but i dunno which files to look for
[08:35] <Angablade> _monk_, which 3G dongle do you have?
[08:35] <zzecool> vincentng: look for folders not files
[08:35] <vincentng> which folders
[08:35] <_monk_> huawei
[08:35] <Angablade> Okay.
[08:35] <zzecool> the home probably...
[08:35] <_monk_> I use my iphone for now
[08:35] <Angablade> Is it a phone, or an actual dongle. Alot of people confuse these
[08:35] <_monk_> its more satysfying
[08:35] <_monk_> a dongle
[08:35] <vincentng> how do i do that?
[08:36] <Angablade> Okay.
[08:36] <_monk_> I know the problem
[08:36] <Angablade> Which model?
[08:36] <_monk_> so I use my phone
[08:36] <vincentng> 11.10
[08:36] <vincentng> testdisk
[08:36] <zzecool> vincentng: using the recovery software you said before
[08:36] <_monk_> doesnt matter
[08:36] <_monk_> its a universal problem
[08:36] <_monk_> with networkmanager and 3g dongles
[08:36] <zykotick9> vincentng: i don't think testdisk/photorec can restore folders, but files only (as folders aren't "real")
[08:37] <_monk_> people who have cheap computers need 3g dongles
[08:37] <WaltherFI> Any audiophiles around? I wonder if Ubuntu supports USB DAC's and can output bit-perfect 24bit/96kHz
[08:37] <vincentng> any other solutions?
[08:37] <_monk_> it must me resolved imiedatly
[08:37] <Angablade> _monk_, Which version of ubuntu do you have?
[08:37] <_monk_> Im on  fedora
[08:37] <_monk_> same
[08:37] <_monk_> porblem
[08:37] <Angablade> ...
[08:38] <_monk_> its gnome 3 networkmanager
[08:38] <Angablade> _monk_, http://min.bz/PYRUL
[08:38] <Angablade> Go there
[08:38] <zzecool> vincentng: oyu need to use a recovery software that can search and pull the file - folder structure not only files...
[08:38] <_monk_> gnome 3 is not complete
[08:38] <vincentng> zzecool: could u recommend me 1?
[08:38] <_monk_> ubuntu luckily ships with unity
[08:38] <Angablade> unity sucks tho.
[08:39] <lethal_lion_> Hi, is it possible to make a connection between two network cards connected to the same computer, to the same subnet? I need to make hw test but don't have a router to make them communicate on different subnets.
[08:39] <_monk_> but it should ship with xfce
[08:39] <_monk_> or old gnome
[08:39] <Angablade> _monk_, yes.
[08:39] <_monk_> that is a universal consensus
[08:39] <Huei> lethal use a crosscable ?
[08:40] <_monk_> unity dont suck
[08:40] <Angablade> lethal_lion_, yes it should be
[08:40] <_monk_> its more then usable
[08:40] <zykotick9> lethal_lion_: static IPs and a crossover cable and i'd imagine it would work
[08:40] <lethal_lion_> I'm trying for two whole days, but with no result
[08:41] <zzecool> vincentng: http://www.easeus-linuxrecovery.com/
[08:41] <lethal_lion_> when I connect like zykotick9 says, ARP replies from one if  are gone...
[08:41] <zzecool> ry this
[08:41] <zzecool> try8
[08:41] <zzecool> it makes miracles on windows ut i never tried at linux
[08:43] <vincentng> zzecool which one should i buy for my case
[08:43] <vincentng> to recover my whole home folder
[08:43] <vincentng> specifically .thuderbird
[08:43] <kolek> ;]
[08:43] <Huei> Anyone here use udev to start scripts ? I'm using it to initiate an rsync script which transfers a data repo to usb drive, however the bash script execution stops halfway when I let it run from udev. if I execute it manually it works just fine.
[08:44] <zykotick9> vincentng: was thunderbird setup with a POP account, or IMAP?  I'd be VERY hesitant to purchase any software to try undeleting on EXT3/4, cause it's probably a waste of money.
[08:44] <zzecool> vincentng:  the proper way is to take your HDD out attach it on a pc running windows with the recovery program installed and try to recover form there
[08:44] <zzecool> from*
[08:44] <vincentng> im im on another disk
[08:44] <vincentng> im mount it on an external drive
[08:45] <vincentng> im ready to do the recovery
[08:45] <vincentng> im thinking for which tool should i use
[08:45] <vincentng> should i get the pay one or the free version?
[08:45] <zzecool> try the free first
[08:45] <zzecool> its a try and error
[08:46] <zzecool> we are not in your eyes
[08:46] <zzecool> you have to do this
[08:46] <vincentng> k
[08:46] <vincentng> thanks
[08:46] <zzecool> np
[08:46] <vincentng> other than testdrive easeus
[08:46] <vincentng> any other i shud try?
[08:46] <_monk_> you can alwayd download systemrescuecd if your systembrakes down
[08:46] <_monk_> dont buy windows
[08:46] <_monk_> it comes with gentoo
[08:47] <_monk_> at root prompt type startx
[08:47] <_monk_> you have a computer again
[08:47] <_monk_> download at a friends house
[08:47] <WaltherFI> _monk_: that doesn't sound like a "recovery"
[08:48] <zzecool> _monk_: his problem is not a non booting system because of crash ......  He  deleted the home folder and needs a recover.
[08:48] <_monk_> download same distro
[08:48] <_monk_> and fix it from there
[08:48] <zzecool> _monk_: you are confused
[08:48] <_monk_> yes, so are you
[08:48] <WaltherFI> _monk_: we're talking about deleted data recovery
[08:48] <zzecool> ,,
[08:48] <_monk_> I see
[08:49] <_monk_> im sorry for my confusion
[08:49] <_monk_> I be quiet
[08:49] <zzecool> _monk_:  the recovery programs running on windows are way better than anything with linux support
[08:49] <zzecool> so he is doomed to use windows for better results
[08:49] <_monk_> thats true, but dont buy windows
[08:49] <_monk_> pirate it
[08:49] <WaltherFI> zzecool: is the home folder on fat / ntfs then?
[08:50] <zykotick9> !wares | _monk_
[08:50] <_monk_> hehehehe
[08:50] <WaltherFI> zzecool: iirc, the tools can't recover data from ext partitions on windowews
[08:50] <zykotick9> !warez | _monk_
[08:50] <_monk_> I appologise again
[08:51] <vincentng> zzecool
[08:51] <vincentng> im now running in windows 7
[08:51] <vincentng> shud i run my recover from ubuntu better?
[08:51] <zzecool> vincentng:  http://www.easeus.com/datarecoverywizard/recover-ext2-ext3-drive.htm
[08:51] <zzecool> WaltherFI: http://www.easeus.com/datarecoverywizard/recover-ext2-ext3-drive.htm
[08:51] <zzecool> read
[08:51] <FloodBot1> zzecool: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[08:51] <zzecool> im afk for now
[08:52] <vincentng> thanks zzecool
[08:52] <zzecool> np
[09:00] <reapingwildoats> hey all, anyone have any experience messing around with seagate goflex drives???
[09:01] <scarleo> vincentng, have you read this? https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DataRecovery
[09:02] <Huei> reaping : i am staring at one right now
[09:02] <Huei> u mean the usb3 drives right ?
[09:02] <reapingwildoats> yup. any luck formating it to ext 3?
[09:02] <reapingwildoats> errr ext4
[09:02] <Huei> ye I have them formatted ext4
[09:03] <reapingwildoats> I just bought a 3tb one but it keeps getting errors
[09:03] <Huei> reaping : I have the 1.5TB ones, didn't give me any grief
[09:03] <Huei> what errors are u getting
[09:04] <reapingwildoats> I have the error log saved, just a moment please
[09:04] <reapingwildoats> shit forgot I had to shut it down... be a minute :)
[09:04] <Schrodinger`Cat> hey
[09:06] <Huei> don't rush, I have problems of my own to sort out too
[09:06] <Huei> ;)
[09:07] <_monk_> hehe
[09:18] <FloodBot1> !netsplit
[09:18] <Yozap> what is a good C compiler here in ubuntu
[09:19] <damo22> gcc
[09:19] <ikonia> Yozap: gcc is the standard on most gnu platforms
[09:19] <magn3ts> clang ;)
[09:19] <magn3ts> better yet, ditch C and learn Go.
[09:19] <damo22> learn haskell
[09:19] <ikonia> ok, that wasn't the question
[09:19] <reapingwildoats> Heui, you still here?
[09:20] <reapingwildoats> here is my syslog after trying to write some files to the newly reformated ext4 goflex
[09:20] <reapingwildoats> http://pastebin.com/JA4pUchn
[09:20] <Huei> give me a few minutes
[09:20] <Huei> got an issue here at work
[09:20] <reapingwildoats> no prob
[09:21] <damo22> reapingwildoats: is it mounted?
[09:21] <Yozap> Sorry, for a noob question but, where is a good site to upload stuff ive created?
[09:21] <ikonia> Yozap: not an ubuntu question
[09:21] <reapingwildoats> yup and I have ownership
[09:22] <damo22> reapingwildoats: what happens when you unmount and run fsck.ext4 on the partition
[09:22] <Yozap> Ah, i mean programs for ubuntu/linux users. Like games
[09:22] <ikonia> Yozap: what are you talking about ?
[09:23] <Yozap> open-source games. sry my english is very bad
[09:23] <reapingwildoats> at this point the drive becomes unresponsive
[09:23] <ikonia> Yozap: no problem with your English
[09:23] <ikonia> Yozap: concerntrate on making the games first, then hosting
[09:23] <damo22> reapingwildoats: try breaking out of it
[09:23] <reapingwildoats> I cant unmount because nautilus is still using it, cant cancel the file transfer etc
[09:23] <reapingwildoats> I am unfamiliar with that command
[09:23] <damo22> reapingwildoats: ok
[09:23] <reapingwildoats> another entry for my notes!
[09:24] <damo22> reapingwildoats: i have a feeling your drive is dead
[09:24] <reapingwildoats> it says healthy!
[09:24] <jonas_> list
[09:24] <jonas_> #list
[09:24] <jonas_> help
[09:25] <jonas_> joinf #mano
[09:25] <jonas_> join #mano
[09:25] <jonas_> #ubuntu
[09:25] <damo22> reapingwildoats: can you go to a terminal and type sudo fdisk -l
[09:25] <reapingwildoats> disk utility did report a high temperature
[09:25] <zzecool> jonas_:   use the  /  before the commands
[09:25] <reapingwildoats> with the external plugged in? just a moment then
[09:26] <damo22> reapingwildoats: is this an external drive that is having issues?
[09:26] <reapingwildoats> yup
[09:26] <reapingwildoats> its a 3tb seagate goflex desk
[09:26] <reapingwildoats> with 3.0 usb
[09:27] <damo22> i dont know what it will do if you unplug while its still mounted, probably something bad
[09:27] <ikonia> ahhh shoddy usb3 support
[09:27] <reapingwildoats> I have been hard rebooting to escape the unresponsive disk :/
[09:28] <damo22> reapingwildoats: well thats bad
[09:28] <Huei> reaping u cant umount  ?
[09:28] <zzecool> bad for data not to kill the hardware
[09:28] <damo22> reapingwildoats: can you plug it in but dont transfer anything
[09:28] <reapingwildoats> alright
[09:28] <reapingwildoats> and then sudo fdisk -l?
[09:28] <damo22> yes
[09:29] <ictxiangxin> somebody can crack mirc?
[09:29] <ikonia> ictxiangxin: not in this channel, please don't ask again
[09:29] <ictxiangxin> sorry
[09:29] <zzecool> ictxiangxin: buy a nutcracker and try your self
[09:29] <Xaratas> hi, i have a little problem with the do-release-upgrade from a karmic ubuntu, could someone assist me? the log states only one error which says "E:Unable to correct problems, you have held broken packages."
[09:30] <ikonia> zzecool: oh don't make silly suggestions to inappropriate questions
[09:30] <ikonia> Xaratas: do you have any 3rd party or external repos enabled ?
[09:30] <dr_willis> should i pointout that xchat has windows ports then? :)
[09:30] <zzecool> ikonia: troll mode got me thats true
[09:31] <ikonia> zzecool: no idea what you've just said
[09:31] <Xaratas> in /etc/apt/sources.list are only the "normal" entrys, i changed them to old-releases.ubuntu.com as the current archive has no karmic packages anymore
[09:31] <zzecool> ikonia: forget about it
[09:32] <ikonia> Xaratas: what package is the error complaining about ?
[09:32] <Xaratas> thats where the problem beginns, the apt.log of do-release-upgrade states "Done" as last line
[09:33] <ikonia> Xaratas: can you please pastebin your sources.list file
[09:33] <Xaratas> and the main.log does not say any other text besides this line
[09:33] <Xaratas> ok
[09:33] <reapingwildoats> sorry my htpc is having trouble connecting to the network :(
[09:34] <Huei> oh this is just cute. I've run a test where a script that starts counting with an interval of 10seconds in a loop when fired using udev rules it stops after about 50 seconds?!
[09:35] <kholerabbi_> I'm trying to run a liveusb of 11.10 on a netbook, but it's just sitting at 'checking battery state'. Anything I can do about this?
[09:35] <hydrox24> H guys, I need help with where to start in getting my laptops inbuilt tuner up and running, it's a toshiba satellite a660-07t and the tv tuner doesn
[09:35] <Xaratas> ikonia: http://pastebin.com/CzsCF5EW
[09:36] <reapingwildoats> uploading a pic now :D
[09:36] <hydrox24> *doesn't come up in lspci or lshw as far as i can tell, any pointers?*
[09:37] <damo22> hydrox24: inbuilt tuner? ummm possibly doesnt have support but you can check in lspci -nnvv
[09:37] <hydrox24> damo22: thanks, will do
[09:38] <reapingwildoats> http://i.imgur.com/I4Trm.jpg
[09:38] <hydrox24> damo22: any tips on what to "grep" for? kinda don't wanna sort through it all...
[09:38] <reapingwildoats> that is the result of fdisk -l
[09:39] <damo22> reapingwildoats: ok now type sudo umount /dev/sdb1
[09:40] <hydrox24> damo22: nothing, about to reboot though so will BRB
[09:40] <damo22> hydrox24:?????
[09:41] <reapingwildoats> cursor is blinking bottem left corner... I think its thinking?
[09:41] <damo22> ohhh i was talking to different people lol
[09:41] <damo22> man in need sleep
[09:42] <reapingwildoats> I think it froze :/
[09:42] <lanoxx> is it somehow possible to make a screenshot while having a menu open? for some reason when i click on a menu in then as long as i have the menu open, pressing the print screen button on my keyboard does not have any effect
[09:42] <damo22> reapingwildoats: open a different terminal and do dmesg |tail
[09:42] <ictxiangxin> please give me a channel about python
[09:42] <ikonia> Xaratas: looks pretty solid
[09:42] <damo22> ictxiangxin: /join #python
[09:42] <ikonia> Xaratas: in the machines current state, what happens if you do "sudo apt-get update"?
[09:43] <ictxiangxin> return "not connected to server"
[09:43] <Xaratas> ikonia: noting to be done, all packages up to date
[09:43] <linuxuz3r> when is the next version of ubuntu going to be released
[09:43] <ictxiangxin> I am very new in irc
[09:43] <Xaratas> precise
[09:43] <damo22> ictxiangxin: type it in here
[09:43] <reapingwildoats> I think it is froze?
[09:44] <ictxiangxin> ok
[09:44] <ictxiangxin> good thanks
[09:44] <ikonia> Xaratas: what version are you trying to upgrade to ?
[09:44] <damo22> reapingwildoats: dmesg|tail in a second terminal
[09:45] <Xaratas> ikonia: from karmic to lucid
[09:45] <SHOVELL> hey is there a way to write a script to start two terminal windows that are different users and have them run sh scripts?
[09:45] <Huei> reaping: are u using the original cable that came with the drive ? no usb extension cables etc ?
[09:45] <ikonia> SHOVELL: sure, su -c for example
[09:45] <SHOVELL> c?
[09:46] <ikonia> SHOVELL: there is also a sudo option (not away of the flag, look it up)
[09:46] <damo22> SHOVELL: in console or X?
[09:46] <ikonia> Xaratas: that shouldn't be a problem
[09:46] <ksinkar> is there any wiki or tutorial or howto for installing ubuntu without the graphical installer
[09:46] <reapingwildoats> I/O error in dev sdb
[09:46] <ikonia> Xaratas: normally when packages fail as you say, it offers up the package name that's failing
[09:46] <ikonia> !install ksinkar
[09:46] <ksinkar> !install
[09:46] <ikonia> ksinkar: the alternative CD doesn't use the gui, it's menu driven and is quite straight foward
[09:47] <reapingwildoats> Huei: do you need to see the whole thing?  Last entry is an I/O error in dev sdb
[09:47] <damo22> reapingwildoats: i think your external drive is dead
[09:47] <SHOVELL> damo22,  i would like it to be x i think
[09:47] <reapingwildoats> Huei: my ubuntu is offline at the moment, but I can take pictures of the screen and upload to imgur if need be
[09:47] <damo22> reapingwildoats: but we can try one more thing
[09:47] <SHOVELL> damo22,  x= gui?
[09:48] <Huei> reapingwildoats: no, All i know is that the usb3 seagate drives that I own will give similar problems if i attempt to use ANY other cable than the one that came with it
[09:48] <Xaratas> ikonia: http://pastebin.com/LhZRxg1g i have tried these commados, but no one do anything as there are no broken packages before the upgrade
[09:49] <SHOVELL> damo22,  i need the console to run yes but i want to make it so i can click on a icon and they run
[09:49] <reapingwildoats> I am using the cable that came with it
[09:49] <ikonia> Xaratas: is this a server install or desktop ?
[09:49] <Xaratas> ikonia: it is a server install, besides base packages it has a bacula server process running
[09:50] <Kartagis> I understand ubuntu versions are named according to alphabet. what will happen when all the letters are used?
[09:50] <ikonia> Xaratas: not currently running an X11 desktop by any chance /
[09:50] <reghina> hi
[09:50] <ikonia> Kartagis: who cares, it doesn't matter, this is a support chanel
[09:50] <ikonia> channel
[09:50] <Huei> kartagis: I think the plan is to switch over to simplified chinese character set and carry on from there
[09:50] <reghina> I have  PINK colour where WHITE shoud be..what is wrong?
[09:51] <reapingwildoats> damo22, huei: you have any other suggestions?
[09:51] <SHOVELL> reghina, your monitor is broken
[09:51] <damo22> reapingwildoats: yes, create a blacklist rule that prevents automounting of /dev/sdb1
[09:51] <SHOVELL> reghina, or the cable is loose
[09:51] <Xaratas> ikonia: no, there is no X11
[09:52] <reapingwildoats> where is the blacklist?
[09:52] <damo22> reapingwildoats: or boot up into single user mode and select root shell
[09:52] <ikonia> Xaratas: darn, I was curious to see if update-manager complained
[09:52] <Huei> reapingwildoats: have u made sure the drive works on a different system ?
[09:52] <ikonia> Xaratas: without more information I can't see how we can work out the problem package and fix it
[09:52] <reghina> Hi Shovel...what cable?
[09:52] <SHOVELL> reghina, have you checked the cable?
[09:53] <damo22> reapingwildoats: we can try to work on this from a root shell with no gui it will be easier
[09:53] <reghina> what cable?
[09:53] <reapingwildoats> it appears in disk manager on windows 7 but I could not mount it as I dont have the ext4fd or whatever exe
[09:53] <Xaratas> ikonia: i will pastebin the logs
[09:53] <SHOVELL> reghina, the one that goes from the monitoe to the computer
[09:53] <reapingwildoats> and it appears healthy
[09:53] <ikonia> Xaratas: just having a think of how to get better info, but please pastebin anything of use
[09:53] <reghina> it's a lap top
[09:53] <damo22> reapingwildoats: do you have any data on it you want to keep?
[09:53] <damo22> reapingwildoats: or can we format it
[09:54] <reapingwildoats> nope everything is backed up
[09:54] <SHOVELL> reghina, hmm when you wiggle the lid does the color work ?
[09:54] <reapingwildoats> yeah ill format it
[09:54] <reapingwildoats> Ive been using gparted
[09:54] <damo22> reapingwildoats: in that case reboot into single user mode
[09:54] <mun> hi
[09:54] <reghina>  I dont know what wiggle the lid means
[09:54] <reapingwildoats> I think I am? only one user account and I deleted guest as well
[09:54] <reghina> Sorry my english is not perfect  :(
[09:55] <mun> i've just run smartctl on my drive and i get a 'read failure' with 90% of the test remaining. can it be fixed?
[09:55] <reapingwildoats> should I reformat again?
[09:55] <damo22> reapingwildoats: no you need to hold left shift when you boot and select failsafe from grub
[09:55] <SHOVELL> reghina, open and close in a small movements
[09:55] <reapingwildoats> I need to take my dog for a walk soon so good timing
[09:55] <reapingwildoats> k brb
[09:55] <reghina> nothing changes this way
[09:56] <SHOVELL> reghina, how old is the laptop?
[09:56] <reghina> about 4 years
[09:56] <reghina> it's a Dell XPS M1330
[09:56] <SHOVELL> do you have a desktop monitor output on it for a second monitor?
[09:57] <reapingwildoats> left shift didnt start grub?
[09:57] <reghina> Sorry have not understand the question
[09:57] <reapingwildoats> any other button?
[09:57] <damo22> Esc
[09:57] <reghina> If I have to monitors at the same time?
[09:58] <SHOVELL> reghina,  on of these sorry about the website i got it from http://media.wiley.com/Lux/27/80327.image0.jpg
[09:59]  * SHOVELL *****one not on
[09:59] <Mandan> hey guys I installed lamp on my ubuntu 11.10 and I copied one downloaded php webspage in /var/www/test/index.php and when i open it in firefox localhost/test/index.php it is shows 'could not connect to mysql'  how to open the php page?
[09:59] <ikonia> Mandan: is mysql server running ?
[09:59] <reapingwildoats> damo22: esc didnt trigger it either what the hell
[10:00] <damo22> reapingwildoats: im pretty sure you have to hold left shift for ages during the bootsequence
[10:00] <SHOVELL> reghina,  i think iw would be blue
[10:00] <reapingwildoats> I press it during post and hold it till I am at the user select screen
[10:00] <reapingwildoats> gotta walk the dog ill be back in 20
[10:00] <Mandan> ikonia, I started mysql as service mysql start
[10:01] <damo22> reapingwildoats: hold it earleir
[10:01] <reghina> Shovell, what would be blue?
[10:01] <damo22> /s/ei/ie
[10:01] <ikonia> Mandan: ok, can you connect to it ?
[10:01] <SHOVELL> reghina,  did you look at the link i sent you?
[10:01] <reghina> ok ..one minute
[10:02] <Xaratas> ikonia: apt.log: http://pastebin.com/ZaSazUaS ; main.log: http://pastebin.com/Wc7RBXg2
[10:02] <reghina> Shovel..non I do not have any plug like this in my laptop
[10:02] <ikonia> Xaratas: let me have a read
[10:02] <Mandan> ikonia, i just started learing these this but i dont no so much about mysql server
[10:03] <ikonia> Mandan: ok - well, you need to setup mysql and the database
[10:03] <WaltherFI> Mouse / trackpad not working. Ubuntu 11.10
[10:03] <ikonia> Mandan: an application needs a database, a username and a password to be able to use it
[10:03] <ikonia> Mandan: the web applications web page should explain how to set that up
[10:04] <ikonia> Xaratas: Hmmm mountall, is a broken package according to that log
[10:04] <jorisw> What's the safest way to install a newer PHP than 5.3.6 in Ubuntu LTS 10.04 ?
[10:04] <Xaratas> mountall depends on plymouth since lucid
[10:04] <ikonia> Xaratas: that whole dependency tree looks messed up
[10:05] <WaltherFI> Mouse / trackpad not working on Ubuntu 11.10. Used to work, just stopped working (perhaps after some updates). Up to date, just did -update and - upgrade.
[10:05] <SHOVELL> reghina, i think you have a broken wire inside your laptop and it is not giving the screen  the color green i think is there a warranty still on it
[10:05] <Mandan> ikonia, i try to create database as sudo mysqladmin create MySqldatabase but it shows mysqladmin: connect to server at 'localhost' failed
[10:05] <Mandan> error: 'Access denied for user 'root'@'localhost' (using password: NO)'
[10:05] <Xaratas> ikonia: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/mountall/+bug/556372 i think its to see together with this bug
[10:05] <WaltherFI> Logging out and back in doesn't help, nor does compiz --replace
[10:05] <ikonia> Mandan: you need to specify the password with -p option
[10:06] <SHOVELL> well that sucked
[10:06] <ikonia> Xaratas: intersting
[10:08] <SilentDrgn> I was hoping I could get some help with a very annoying issue I am having with my Asus laptop and Ubuntu.
[10:08] <Mandan> ikonia, I created database , how can I know that it is created and where still I cant open the index.php
[10:08] <damo22> ikonia: if you havent set a password before for root mysql user you should use mysqladmin to do this
[10:08] <ikonia> damo22: I know how to do this thanks,
[10:08] <ikonia> Mandan: what application are you trying to use
[10:08] <damo22> /s/ikonia/Mandan
[10:08] <SilentDrgn> Everytime I close the lid at the login screen I get a black screen when I open it back up. I then have to do a hard restart.
[10:08] <ikonia> Mandan: as in what php application
[10:09] <Xaratas> ikonia: o, i removed the preferences files for apt and now it looks like apt found a solution
[10:09] <ikonia> really ?
[10:09] <ikonia> I've surprised by that
[10:09] <Xaratas> ikonia: 3 Pakete werden entfernt. 39 neue Pakete werden installiert. 315  Pakete werden aktualisiert.
[10:10] <WaltherFI> Mouse / trackpad not working on Ubuntu 11.10. Used to work, just stopped working (perhaps after some updates). Up to date, just did -update and - upgrade.
[10:10] <Mandan> ikonia, I downloaded a community webpage source file
[10:10] <ikonia> Mandan: that won't work then
[10:10] <SHOVELL> WaltherFI, what kind of laptop
[10:10] <Xaratas> ikonia: Package: * ; Pin: release a=lucid ; Pin-Priority: 40
[10:10] <ikonia> Mandan: you need a database with the right structure and that application needs to be told how to use that database, you can't just download an index.php
[10:10] <WaltherFI> SHOVELL: Samsung N510
[10:10] <Xaratas> preferences previously contained these lines
[10:11] <Jordan_U> Xaratas: If you run "lang=C some_command" it will make that command run in English.
[10:11] <WaltherFI> SHOVELL: probably not related, as it has worked and works on my other install (12.04 alpha)
[10:11] <mufflon> hello all, im looking for a way to activate the window-decoration again, when its deactivated by rightclick in titlebar, in lxde/openbox...thank you for help
[10:11] <Xaratas> Jordan_U: nice to know
[10:11] <SHOVELL> WaltherFI, is it not working at all?
[10:12] <SHOVELL> WaltherFI,  or not the way it is supposed to
[10:12] <WaltherFI> SHOVELL: pointer not moving, clicks not taken
[10:13] <SHOVELL> WaltherFI, and it worked in 10.04?
[10:13] <WaltherFI> SHOVELL: (and it is not softkilled)
[10:13] <WaltherFI> SHOVELL: has worked on 11.10 too
[10:13] <WaltherFI> broke after some update i think
[10:14] <SHOVELL> WaltherFI,  there was a kernel update recently was it after that?
[10:14] <SilentDrgn> Awesome. Thanks for the help.
[10:14] <WaltherFI> SHOVELL: possible
[10:15] <SHOVELL> WaltherFI,  did you have to install your own driver to make it wwork before?
[10:15] <SHOVELL> WaltherFI,  cause the kernel update killed all my drivers
[10:15] <WaltherFI> SHOVELL: no, just an ordinary trackpad :D
[10:16] <WaltherFI> no drivers installed
[10:16] <Mandan> ikonia, when i create a file in php firefox is downloading the page not displaying the page i created this http://paste.ubuntu.com/833720/
[10:16] <WaltherFI> Mandan: php server is then not running
[10:16] <SHOVELL> WaltherFI, hmm i am sorry i dont think i can help you i have not encountered that issue
[10:17] <SHOVELL> WaltherFI, the other guys here probably could
[10:17] <studente> WHERE IS YOUR GOD???
[10:17] <SHOVELL> studente, REALLY WHERE IS YOURS
[10:17] <carli2> hi
[10:17] <studente> WHERE IS YOUR GOD???
[10:18] <studente> WHERE IS YOUR GOD???
[10:18] <studente> WHERE IS YOUR GOD???
[10:18] <studente> WHERE IS YOUR GOD???
[10:18] <FloodBot1> studente: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[10:18] <SHOVELL> studente, you want to meet my god?
[10:18] <Ben64> !ot
[10:18] <WaltherFI> SHOVELL: don't feed the troll
[10:18] <SHOVELL> ben64 sorry
[10:18] <Mandan> WaltherFI, when I open the localhost/info it is showing the php info
[10:19] <carli2> where did the gnome-window-properties move to? I want to enable floating focus.
[10:19] <reapingwildoats> im back sorry about that
[10:19] <WaltherFI> Mandan: are you sure it is running in the directory your file is in?
[10:19] <damo22> reapingwildoats: ok
[10:19] <SHOVELL> have a good one everyone!!!!!!!
[10:19] <damo22> reapingwildoats: so hold left shift for longer before it starts
[10:19] <WaltherFI> Mandan: also, check the permissions of the php files
[10:20] <reapingwildoats> I still cant seem to get grub to boot
[10:20] <Mandan> WaltherFI, How to give permissions for php file like chmod 777 <phpfile> ?
[10:20] <Ben64> reapingwildoats: what are you trying to do?
[10:21] <WaltherFI> Mandan: don't give 777, just to the user it is necessary
[10:21] <cristian_> hello people!
[10:21] <reapingwildoats> I have a seagate goflex desk 3tb usb 3.0 external that is not formatting correctly or something
[10:21] <reapingwildoats> I get I/O errors from it but it seems to be healthy
[10:21] <Ben64> reapingwildoats: IO errors aren't healthy : /
[10:22] <cristian_> reapingwildoats, Have you got problem with the grub??
[10:22] <Mandan> WaltherFI, the permissions are fine for user
[10:22] <cockethedrink> can i upgrade to the latest version without burning a disk, i am using 9.10
[10:22] <reapingwildoats> I cant seem to boot into grub holding left shift
[10:22] <WaltherFI> Mandan: the php server user
[10:22] <cristian_> You have Super grub disc???
[10:23] <cristian_> sorry, have you got super grub disc reapingwildoats?
[10:23] <Ben64> cockethedrink: yes, you'd have to go to 10.04 then 10.10 then 11.04 then 11.10 though
[10:23] <reapingwildoats> I dont think so
[10:23] <Ben64> reapingwildoats: what does grub have to do with your external drive?
[10:23] <WaltherFI> Ben64: is it really so?
[10:23] <reapingwildoats> I have a bootable flash drive with hiren's tools 15.1
[10:23] <reapingwildoats> is it on there?
[10:23] <cristian_> ah so...
[10:24] <Mandan> WaltherFI, how can I find that which user have permissions for php ?
[10:24] <cristian_> reapingwildoats, When you use a flash drive is very different
[10:24] <WaltherFI> Mandan: I don't know, never managed a php server, I just know something about the mechanics behind
[10:24] <reapingwildoats> http://askubuntu.com/questions/71867/grub-menu-doesnt-appear-when-pressing-shift
[10:24] <reapingwildoats> that might help
[10:24] <reapingwildoats> brb
[10:24] <WaltherFI> i.e. the files have to be executable, the server needs to be running, etc
[10:25] <pjotter> Hi everybody! Is something wrong with the APT of precise pangolin? I was testing the alpha-2 version, but I can't download and install any packages.
[10:25] <WaltherFI> cristian_: flashdrive should work in a similar fashion as a cd, no difference
[10:25] <Mandan> WaltherFI, Did u got any tutorial page links for understanding these stuffz ?
[10:25] <Ben64> pjotter: 12.04 support is in #ubuntu+1
[10:25] <WaltherFI> pjotter: #ubuntu+1
[10:25] <pjotter> What does that mean?
[10:26] <pjotter> O, sorry. I get it :)
[10:26] <cristian_> WaltherFI, yes...but
[10:26] <Xaratas> ikonia: it could be easy, but it is not: the update fails at all points it needs to change grub settings "/usr/sbin/grub-probe: error: cannot find a device for /boot (is /dev mounted?)."
[10:26] <Mandan> WaltherFI, Thanks for u r time man !!
[10:26] <WaltherFI> Mandan: google is your friend, iirc there is a simple tutorial on how to set up php on ubuntu
[10:27] <WaltherFI> Mandan: probably in the official tutorials even
[10:27] <WaltherFI> !php |mandan
[10:27] <cristian_> saint google jaja
[10:27] <Mandan> WaltherFI, ok
[10:28] <sacback> can any one tell where the store software store in ubuntu
[10:28] <sacback> can any one tell where the installed  software store in ubuntu
[10:28] <reapingwildoats> my GRUB_HIDDEN_TIMEOUT = 0 what should it be?
[10:28] <cristian_> you can use the ubuntu guide web page for any problem
[10:28] <cristian_> *website
[10:28] <Ben64> reapingwildoats: anything you want, its how long grub will sit before booting
[10:29] <WaltherFI> sacback: what are you looking for? the installs go into various places - excecutalbes go to one place, libraries go to another, etc
[10:29] <WaltherFI> sacback: i.e. you can't install anything "to a directory"
[10:29] <WaltherFI> sacback: you install something, stuff goes to their appropriate places
[10:29] <WaltherFI> sacback: So, what are you trying to do?
[10:32] <reapingwildoats> still no grub, what the hell
[10:34] <Ben64> reapingwildoats: so what does grub have to do with your external drive with IO problems
[10:35] <reapingwildoats> im going to start in failsafe and reformat
[10:35] <Ben64> grub doesn't format drives...
[10:36] <Slartibart> The mime type for .mwb(mysql workbench) files is application/zip. How should I config things so that mysql workbench doesn't open all zip files, but only ones with filename suffix mwb?
[10:36] <WaltherFI> Slartibart: Doesn't the right click - open with - always types like this work?
[10:37] <Ben64> Slartibart: change the mime type?
[10:37] <reapingwildoats> from grub I can boot into the fail safe though I think
[10:37] <Slartibart> WaltherFI: Mysql workbench isn't listed there =[
[10:38] <Slartibart> Ben64: How do I do that?
[10:38] <Ben64> reapingwildoats: you still haven't explained what you're doing with grub and an external drive, it makes no sense
[10:38] <Ben64> Slartibart: would have to do it on the server
[10:38] <WaltherFI> Slartibart: yeah, but if you rightclick one of those files
[10:38] <WaltherFI> Slartibart: save one of those files on your disk, right click, open with
[10:39] <reapingwildoats> damo22 wants me to start grub, boot into a single user or fail safe, and reformat the drive
[10:40] <kubanc> is the usermod -G group-name user-name command OK to add user to group
[10:40] <reapingwildoats> I think to fix ownership?
[10:40] <Ben64> reapingwildoats: but you can format from normal ubuntu
[10:40] <Slartibart> WaltherFI: Right click->Properties->.. or Right click->Open with both lead to the same list of programs I think? And for some reason it's not listed there =[. I get archive handlers and stuff.
[10:40] <damo22> Ben64: no he cant becuase it automounts the drive with errors
[10:40] <Ben64> then unmount it..
[10:40] <reapingwildoats> it freezes
[10:40] <damo22> Ben64: it hangs
[10:40] <Slartibart> Ben64: But there's no server involved, mysql workbench is installed locally on my laptop.
[10:41] <Ben64> then turn off automount
[10:41] <WaltherFI> Slartibart: open with, select manually or whatever it is
[10:41] <damo22> Ben64: its easier to boot single mode, or do you know how to disable automount?
[10:41] <WaltherFI> what was the directory with all the excecutables again?
[10:41] <WaltherFI> /usr/bin perhaps?
[10:41] <reapingwildoats> http://www.upubuntu.com/2011/09/how-to-turn-off-automount-feature-of.html
[10:41] <reapingwildoats> will that do it?
[10:42] <Ben64> thats one way
[10:42] <Ben64> another - http://www.liberiangeek.net/2010/09/disableenable-auto-mount-ubuntu-10-0410-10-maverick-meerkat/
[10:43] <damo22> reapingwildoats: you should try bens way
[10:43] <reapingwildoats> alright
[10:43] <damo22> reapingwildoats: then plug in the usb drive and we can run a console
[10:43] <reapingwildoats> after I disable then plug in drive and use gparted?
[10:43] <reapingwildoats> oh alright
[10:47] <reapingwildoats> I cant seem to run gconf-editor as a command
[10:47] <mun> hi
[10:48] <mun> i'm copying files from one SATA drive to another and i'm getting about 7mb/s: is it atypically slow?
[10:48] <Slartibart> WaltherFI: I get Mysql workbench as an option when I rightclick and enter the Open with.. submenu. The thing I want to accomplish is to not have to do that each time I open an .mwb file, but simply doubleclick(currently open an archive handler). But Mysql workbench is not listed in any program lists. and if I click "search the net for programs" I only get archive handlers, which I guess is because
[10:48] <Slartibart> ..the mime type is application/zip
[10:48] <reapingwildoats> I turned it off through system settings > removable media
[10:49] <reapingwildoats> plug in the external?
[10:49] <damo22> reapingwildoats: thats not enouhg
[10:49] <damo22> no
[10:49] <reapingwildoats> ok
[10:49] <reapingwildoats> how do I use gconf-editor?
[10:49] <reapingwildoats> I cant run it as a command
[10:50] <WaltherFI> Mouse / trackpad not working, Ubuntu 11.10, has worked before, system up to date
[10:51] <damo22> reapingwildoats: told you it would be easier to reboot into grub and select failsafe
[10:51] <damo22> :P
[10:51] <reapingwildoats> yeah but that wasnt working either
[10:51] <reapingwildoats> left shift did nothing, changed GRUB_TIMEOUT and still nothing
[10:51] <damo22> wierd
[10:52] <reapingwildoats> ran sudo grub-update and still nothing
[10:52] <damo22> reapingwildoats: that wasnt necessar
[10:53] <reapingwildoats> it said somewhere to run the update after making changes to /etc/default/grub
[10:53] <damo22> oho k
[10:54] <damo22> gconf-editor should work
[10:55] <reapingwildoats> i push alt-f2, type it in, hit enter and nothing
[10:55] <Ben64> try it from command line
[10:55] <BarryB> anyone know which ubuntu i shoudl get as i heard the latest UI is dreaful to use???
[10:55] <ikonia> BarryB: try it
[10:56] <reapingwildoats> just sudo gconf-editor or...?
[10:56] <ikonia> BarryB: see if you like it rather than what people have told you
[10:56] <damo22> reapingwildoats: you can edit gconf from nano ~/.gconf/...
[10:56] <Ben64> reapingwildoats: no sudo
[10:56] <reapingwildoats> k
[10:56] <BarryB> ikonia: i heard it doesnt have the bar, ii loved the bar!!!
[10:56] <BarryB> it helped
[10:56] <ikonia> BarryB: try it, see if you like it rather than what you've heard
[10:56] <BarryB> ikonia: do you like it?
[10:56] <ikonia> BarryB: not really no
[10:56] <BarryB> maybe guru like it but not bnoobs
[10:56] <BarryB> lol
[10:56] <ikonia> BarryB: but that doesn't matter, see if you like it
[10:56] <BarryB> noobs
[10:57] <ikonia> BarryB: if you don't like it, change desktops, it's that simple
[10:59] <krambiorix> hi guys, i made a little webapplication with webdav support to edit files. Now i want to trigger a function when a file gets locked. What i can do is reading the access_log every minute to check for LOCKS but i wonder if there would be another way??
[11:01] <reapingwildoats> rebooting router brb
[11:02] <ryanyeah> does anyone know how to undo changes in a git repo that haven't been staged or committed yet? without having to commit it then revert it
[11:04] <BarryB> can i get peoples argument for Ubuntu over Fudora???
[11:05] <enchilado> ryanyeah: $ git reset ?
[11:06] <bazhang> !ot | BarryB
[11:06] <enchilado> ryanyeah: I think $ git reset --hard HEAD - I haven't used git in a while though
[11:06] <enchilado> (and I was never very good with it)
[11:08] <c31r2g> how to install wireless modem on ubuntu(reliance)?
[11:10] <reapingwildoats> in gconf-editor I have an option for media_autorun_never but niether of the other two
[11:10] <reapingwildoats> media_automount, media_automount_open
[11:10] <reapingwildoats> should I make them?
[11:11] <reapingwildoats> Ben64 any ideas?
[11:11] <Ben64> what version of ubuntu
[11:11] <reapingwildoats> 11.10
[11:11] <JadedJacob> Hi.
[11:11] <c31r2g> are there any lectures going
[11:11] <JadedJacob> Just installed ubuntu and my 160GB drive is reporting 136  bad sectors.
[11:12] <Ben64> reapingwildoats: shouldn't need to create them
[11:13] <Ben64> JadedJacob: should probably get a new hard drive soon
[11:13] <reapingwildoats> http://askubuntu.com/questions/89244/how-to-disable-automount-in-nautiluss-preferences
[11:13] <WaltherFI> Does Ubuntu support 24bit/96kHz audio through USB DAC?
[11:13] <reapingwildoats> should I use dconf-editor?
[11:13] <norbert79> JadedJacob: It would be also worth checking the S.M.A.R.T data too...
[11:13] <Ben64> reapingwildoats: couldn't hurt
[11:14] <Ben64> reapingwildoats: i don't have an 11.10 system here though
[11:14] <ius> Is anyone running Xfce + VLC? Could you try opening a video file, maximizing(!) it, and then go fullscreen?
[11:14] <Ben64> !anyone | ius
[11:15] <lmaowaffle> hi folks. would asking about zfs (from native-zfs ppa) be inappropriate? If so, where should I direct these questions? I'm using zfs on ubuntu oneiric
[11:15] <ius> Ben64: It was a relevant first question though, imposing some contraints ;)
[11:15] <norbert79> lmaowaffle: Depends... But give it a try, yet I wouldn't suggest too many would use ZFS here
[11:16] <Ben64> ius: eh, probably not very relevant
[11:16] <lmaowaffle> norbert79, ok, will do :)
[11:16] <JadedJacob> hmmm
[11:16] <norbert79> ius: Just for additional info, you might want to share the version number of both applications and the problem you were experiencing.
[11:16] <JadedJacob> The system is so old.
[11:16] <ius> Yes it is, trying to hunt down a bug, afaik only the specific combo of Xfce and VLC is affected
[11:16] <WaltherFI> Ubuntu and USB DAC for bit-perfect audio? http://www.thomann.de/gb/esi_dr_dac_nano.htm
[11:17] <JadedJacob> I think I'll just replace it with a 4GB flash drive :)
[11:17] <ius> And I should elaborate on that - I don't run Ubuntu, but am experiencing this on another distro, was wondering if Ubuntu was affected too (might help narrow down some version numbers)
[11:17] <lmaowaffle> hi folks. I'm rather new to zfs.. but testing it as a nas for home network. Firstly, please excuse my ignorance if these questions can be directed elsewhere (channel)I have it setup perfectly with samba shares in freebsd 8.2. As I dualboot said freebsd and ubuntu oneiric, I need to be able to access the zpool from both. The problem is that freebsd was installed first, ubuntu second (on separate disk) and I have to go into BIOS to change the
[11:17] <lmaowaffle>  boot order of disks to boot into either. This creates a problem for me as the device enumeration will be different (from google hits - could be wrong). How do I specify the devices in /dev/disk/by-id in ubuntu that comprise the zpool?zpool import in ubuntu shows the zpool state: UNAVAIL, missing device. The command lists 2 of the 3 disks that comprise the pool as ONLINE - and no mention of the remaining disk
[11:17] <reapingwildoats> automount and automount_open are off now haha finally!!
[11:18] <lmaowaffle> oh lord, wrong paste
[11:18] <reapingwildoats> restart needed? Or can I plug it in now?
[11:18] <ius> The actual issue is the xfce4-panel remaining visibile while VLC is supposed to be in fullscreen. Happens only with VLC, only in Xfce. Nasty.
[11:18] <WaltherFI> lmaowaffle: ...pastebin?
[11:18] <Ben64> reapingwildoats: not sure, i never turned it off before :)
[11:18] <c31r2g> hi
[11:18] <c31r2g> Ben64 can  u read me
[11:18] <reapingwildoats> damo22, I got automount off using dconf-editor.  Time to proceed to the next step?
[11:18] <reapingwildoats> or should I restart?
[11:19] <damo22> reapingwildoats: is it mounted/
[11:19] <Ben64> c31r2g: yes?
[11:19] <WaltherFI> Ubuntu and USB DAC for bit-perfect audio? http://www.thomann.de/gb/esi_dr_dac_nano.htm
[11:19] <damo22> reapingwildoats: type mount
[11:19] <reapingwildoats> its not plugged in atm
[11:19] <damo22> reapingwildoats: plug it in
[11:19] <reapingwildoats> and type mount in terminal?
[11:19] <c31r2g> thanks im new to irc chats
[11:19] <damo22> reapingwildoats: yes
[11:19] <norbert79> lmaowaffle: Wow... Well, even before answering: I think it's related to the filesystem handling, since FreeBSD supports ZFS from kernel, while Linux is supporting it not from default. I mean this is some very delicate question and hard to answer right now... I think some people having more ZFS experience might be able to help
[11:20] <norbert79> lmaowaffle: Why don1t you try #zfs?
[11:20] <lmaowaffle> norbert79, heh
[11:21] <reapingwildoats> yeah it mounted >:/
[11:21] <damo22> reapingwildoats: that sucks
[11:21] <reapingwildoats> what does that mean?
[11:21] <Ben64> reapingwildoats: can't you just unmount it
[11:21] <damo22> reapingwildoats: try unmounting
[11:21] <reapingwildoats> k
[11:21] <Ben64> umount -f /dev/blah
[11:21] <damo22> reapingwildoats: sudo umount -f /dev/sdb1
[11:21] <reapingwildoats> -f is lazy ?
[11:22] <Ben64> -f is force
[11:22] <lmaowaffle> norbert79, yep. I asked the question there already. The #ubuntu-destined question was actually if it were possible to allocate specific device nodes/names to harddisk partitions that would override the automatically generated ones at boot in Ubuntu for the purposes of zfs device recognition
[11:22] <bananenkampf-de> hey guys, you know a good music download platform? it mustn't be free - i would pay for it - but i need a flatrate and a big repository of artists :-)
[11:23] <reapingwildoats> okay it unmounted
[11:23] <bazhang> !ot | bananenkampf-de
[11:24] <damo22> reapingwildoats: sudo fsck.ext4 /dev/sdb1
[11:25] <reapingwildoats> it says clean
[11:25] <damo22> reapingwildoats: sudo fsck.ext4 -f /dev/sdb1
[11:27] <reapingwildoats> extended attribute in inode xxxxx has value 0, should I clear?
[11:27] <HaloWorlder> ^Zaz, halo, are u a Ukrainian?
[11:27] <HaloWorlder> ArchangelSe7en, ;)
[11:27] <ArchangelSe7en> hya
[11:27] <HaloWorlder> it's me
[11:27] <reapingwildoats> damo22: should I clear the invalid values?
[11:28] <damo22> reapingwildoats: yes
[11:28] <HaloWorlder> ArchangelSe7en, Dmitry :D
[11:28] <ArchangelSe7en> guessed so
[11:28] <HaloWorlder> heh
[11:28] <damo22> reapingwildoats: if theres a lot of them you can cancel and force it with -y -f options
[11:29] <reapingwildoats> nah just a handful
[11:29] <reapingwildoats> it says file system was modified and its all done now
[11:29] <damo22> reapingwildoats: ok unplug it and replug it
[11:29] <damo22> reapingwildoats: it should mount
[11:30] <knobydobs> when I boot into ubuntu 11.10 I get a blank blue screen with just the mouse
[11:30] <justinfront_> hi I am trying to setup a VPS that has mint installed, but not sure how to adjust apache I believe I need to edit a config file but not sure what I need to change in it
[11:31] <reapingwildoats> ok mounted
[11:31] <damo22> reapingwildoats: copy a file to it then dmesg |tail
[11:31] <reapingwildoats> k
[11:33] <WaltherFI> Does Ubuntu support 24bit/96kHz output through USB DAC?
[11:33] <justinfront_> apache is saying it can't workout the server address
[11:34] <damo22> justinfront_: you need to add an entry to your /etc/hosts file
[11:34] <zykotick9> !mint | justinfront_ damo22
[11:35] <reapingwildoats> damo22: I have a bunch of advanced high speed usb device reset by ehci_hcd
[11:35] <reapingwildoats> and other than some hanging (stuck on 4.2 gigs for 10 seconds but then proceeds) it seems to be transfering
[11:35] <justinfront_> ok I am not very good with vim I might try using cyberduck to transfer a file, but I am unsure what I need in it.  I choose mint because I want to VNC into it I am not so good on command line but chicken of the VNC is not connecting
[11:36] <damo22> reapingwildoats: sorry im out of ideas for usb3
[11:36] <reapingwildoats> im fine with not having usb3, it still transfering @ 40 mb/s
[11:36] <damo22> reapingwildoats: but dont unplug it before unmounting it
[11:36] <reapingwildoats> im just glad the drive isnt dead
[11:37] <reapingwildoats> what do I do if it hangs again?
[11:37] <reapingwildoats> umount -f?
[11:37] <damo22> yes try that
[11:38] <knobydobs> is configuring apt supposed to take ages during an install?
[11:38] <reapingwildoats> was the hard reset while hung what gave the errors?
[11:39] <justinfront_> I don't think the flavor of linux is that relevant to my questions ubottu, maybe it's not your prefered version but it seems a popular beginners linux. I think my questions are fairly basic ones for you guys, I aim to try and get mod_neko running but first I need just to be able to see a webserver.
[11:39] <zykotick9> justinfront_: it is relevant, if you want support in #ubuntu - use Ubuntu.  As you are using Mint (which isn't supported here) seek support in Mint's channel.
[11:40] <crizzy_> ^ word
[11:40] <zykotick9> justinfront_: ubottu is a bot (robot) BTW
[11:40] <knobydobs> about to say that
[11:41] <justinfront_> there is no one on the irc channel the robot suggested so not much chance of help there.
[11:41] <zykotick9> justinfront_: in your choice of distro, you should consider the support you get...
[11:42] <mun> hi
[11:42] <zykotick9> justinfront_: did you notice that mint's channel is on a different (non-freenode) network
[11:42] <mun> is there a way to check the model of my motherboard, or just to see if it supports SATA1 or SATA2?
[11:44] <Xaratas> the upgrade, the upgrade, working to 86%… arg http://pastebin.com/VFUDZbeE
[11:44] <reapingwildoats> can I back up my system with tar while transfering a large amount of files to an external or is that too intensive?
[11:44] <skilz> How do I install a login theme?
[11:45] <Xaratas> could someone help me with this? this server has a software raid 5 and grub does not find its place
[11:45] <skilz> How do I install a GDM theme?
[11:46] <zykotick9> skilz: the newest GDM doesn't support the old themes.  It's very difficult to install themes now, there are a few tools that allow a handful of themes to be installed, ubuntu-tweak (unsupported) does i believe
[11:47] <skilz> How can I install an old gdm version?
[11:47] <skilz> Or can I just use sdm?
[11:48] <zykotick9> skilz: by sdm do you mean slim?  you could try...
[11:49] <zykotick9> skilz: re:old GDM, forget about it - it's long gone (it was pre 10.04LTS)
[11:49] <skilz> Let me try to explain something
[11:49] <reapingwildoats> anyone know if tar is really system intensive?  Can I be running other things while reliably using tar?
[11:50] <skilz> The current theme/look as a OS X Leopardish looking background image, how can I just change the image?
[11:50] <skilz> its like a pinkish blackish picture
[11:50] <zykotick9> skilz: changing the background image is possible even with the new GDM (that's not really a theme)
[11:51] <zykotick9> reapingwildoats: tar isn't very intensive (gz is)
[11:54] <reapingwildoats> what about tar.bz2
[11:55] <zykotick9> reapingwildoats: intensive whenever there is compression.  But you can still do other things on your system!  I frequently get my box up to a load of 20 (encoding my TV recording) and multi-task at the same time.
[11:55] <zykotick9> reapingwildoats: this isn't windows ;)
[11:56] <bluesea> it's my first time to use irc, is it free?
[11:56] <zykotick9> bluesea: yes :)
[11:56] <reapingwildoats> haha alright ill try it out
[11:56] <rick_> how do i overclock with ubuntu 11.10
[11:58] <Xaratas> bluesea: on the gamesurge network are regulary classes for new people who want to understand the features of irc better, mabye attend one
[11:58] <zykotick9> rick_: 1) overclocking is silly 2) it's not OS dependent, so try ##hardware
[11:58] <bluesea> thks
[11:58] <rick_> cant get no anser on hardwarre
[11:58] <reapingwildoats> I found ubuntu to be easier to run benchmarks though
[11:59] <sorin_> my thinkcentre a 52,is suitable for ubuntu 10.10?
[11:59] <rick_> but hardware is correct place to talk overclocking???
[11:59] <rick_> yes i run ubuntu 11.10 on my r52
[11:59] <sorin_> a52
[11:59] <rick_> works awsome
[12:00] <zykotick9> rick_: well, it's OT here (i don't hang in ##hardware, so not really what they support)
[12:00] <zykotick9> s/really what/really sure what/
[12:00] <sorin_> ThinkCentre A52,md.8297,type 7Ag
[12:00] <rick_> i beleave if r53 works ok then a 52 should be fine
[12:01] <rick_> i mean r52
[12:01] <sorin_> i hope so
[12:01] <rick_> get the 32 bit
[12:01] <sorin_> my?
[12:01] <zykotick9> !pm | bluesea
[12:01] <zykotick9> bluesea: if your IRC software costs money - you're using the wrong software!
[12:02] <bluesea> sorry, i'm new about this rule. I will correct it next time
[12:04] <fidel> bluesea: in case you are new to irc - some users might find the following guide helpful: http://catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html
[12:04] <fidel> its a long read - but might be worth the time as it points out some relevant topics on how to get better help in irc ;)
[12:04] <fidel> enjoy
[12:05] <bluesea> thanks
[12:06] <rick_> Sorin i take that back you would be ok with 64 bit
[12:06] <reapingwildoats> hey damo22 im getting I/O errors in tail -f think its a bad drive?
[12:06] <damo22> reapingwildoats: more likely usb3 bus error
[12:07] <zykotick9> reapingwildoats: i vote for failing drive myself
[12:15] <XReaper> I love nfs. its started to make the whole system 'pause' whenever i start the client :P
[12:20] <mufflon> hello all, im looking for a way to activate the window-decoration again, when its deactivated by rightclick in titlebar, in lxde/openbox...thank you for help
[12:22] <norbert79> mufflon: Did you try to use the Windows button and "t"?
[12:23] <mufflon> norbert79, not yet but ill try it
[12:23] <jacobian> Any suggestions on simple web-enabled bug trackers for teams of around 5-10 people?
[12:24] <mufflon> norbert79: windows-button and t doesnt help
[12:25] <norbert79> mufflon: Hmm, weird, it is supposed to be the shortcut for Openbox on Window decoration
[12:26] <norbert79> mufflon: http://openbox.org/wiki/Help:FAQ#How_do_I_remove_the_decorations_from_all_my_windows.3F - I think undoing this might help
[12:26] <non> hello
[12:27] <norbert79> mufflon: Alt-Shift-s might be also one option... Anyway: http://openbox.org/wiki/Help:Actions#ToggleDecorations
[12:27] <mufflon> norbert79, thank you ill read it
[12:28] <superdave321> How do I keep transmission from taking too much memory and causing all programs including itself from being killed?
[12:31] <scotty^> Does anyone know if the kernel in the Oneiric repositories will be rebased to 3.0.20 to fix the ASPM power consumption regression?
[12:32] <mufflon> norbert79: thx it helpt. perhaps you have an answer: is there a way to remove the context-menu-entry "decorate/remove decoration"
[12:32] <norbert79> mufflon: Not really sorry, I am also have just browsed through the Wiki too... I am using Gnome 2
[12:32] <achievbot> coucou.
[12:33] <scotty^> Bueller?
[12:33] <scotty^> Bueller?
[12:33] <mufflon> norbert79, thank you. i want to set up a desktop office with lxde for testing in daily use by my office ladys and this option costs me an hour experimenting
[12:34] <jrgarcia4ab> yeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
[12:34] <norbert79> mufflon: I understand that, unfortunately I can't help you further. Why don't you leave the decorations, it would make it look nicer
[12:35] <mufflon> norbert79, yes thats right, but when im working without decoration, the users cant move the windows in there used way
[12:36] <norbert79> mufflon: Oh, I see
[12:36] <mufflon> norbert79, todaay they are used to work at gnome 2 on debian squeeze
[12:36] <norbert79> mufflon: Since your questions are all around OpenBox only I think more experienced users of OpenBox might be able to help further
[12:37] <hariom> Looking for some one you can assist in configuring virtual server (port forwarding from router to a pc)
[12:37] <mufflon> norbert79, you may right, ill take a look to openbox
[12:37] <andrew123> I was getting an errot on startup "could not update ICEauthority /var/gdm/.ICEauthority" I remove /var/gdm/.ICEauthority and /home/user/.ICEauthority
[12:40] <flintwingel> hariom: i've stumbled through port forwarding in the past... I'll help if I can. What are you trying to acheive?
[12:46] <hariom> flintwingel: I am trying to access my test site running on Django development server to be able to access from the outside (internet)
[12:47] <flintwingel> hariom: so you've got a router handling your internet connection..? and you've forwarded port 80 to your test veirtual server ?
[12:47] <princess> what is the topic?
[12:48] <patrunjel> Hi. I have Ubuntu installed on my laptop, and I want to resize my root partition so I can get some unpartitioned space, so I could tinker with some other Linux distros. I went through gparted's man page, but there was close to nothing there. Can someone please help me?
[12:48] <norbert79> princess: Ehm, I think you are confusing the channel with a regular discussion channel. For regular discussions please go to #ubuntu-offtopic
[12:49] <hariom> flintwingel: I have a modem that gets the internet line, and this modem is connected to my router. In the router I have setup Virtual Server port forwarding to my internal ip (where the dev test site is running) and the port but some how I am not able to reach to it.
[12:49] <celltech> I have a 'slave' drive/media drive. and it likes to hibernate. How can I make it never hibernate?
[12:50] <bubu13> Windows is awesome bitches.
[12:50] <bubu13> iPhone is the best
[12:50] <renemoraes> hello everyone... my ubuntu 11.10 is closing session automaticaly... and i dont know what is going on
[12:50] <renemoraes> can anyone help me?
[12:50] <bubu13> format
[12:51] <flintwingel> hariom: and you can get to your dev site ok from your ocal network OK?
[12:52] <bubu13> cd home bitches
[12:52] <DJones> bubu13: Please don't troll, this is a support channel
[12:52] <hariom> flintwingel: yes. I tried from other PC within the network and I am able to access
[12:52] <bubu13> ok i'm sorry
[12:52] <flintwingel> hariom: so the issue seems to be with the router... what is it?
[12:53] <renemoraes> where can i find the log of my session?
[12:53] <hariom> I am not sure whether it is with the router or it is with the modem.             ISP -> Modem -> Routers -> (Computers).
[12:53] <bubu13> var/log
[12:53] <norbert79> renemoraes: While I never do regular partitioning but prefer LVM, here is a forum post which might give you an advise: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1590522 - They state, that the sresize should work without any issues
[12:53] <hariom> How do I test if it is reaching to the router or not?
[12:53] <hariom> flintwingel:How do I test if it is reaching to the router or not?
[12:54] <norbert79> renemoraes: But before you do anything, make a backup all of your sensitive data first
[12:54] <flintwingel> haroim: if it is genuinely just a modem then is should pass all traffic through both wways with interfering
[12:54] <celltech> No way to stop a slave drive from going into hybernation mode?
[12:54] <flintwingel> what make&model are the modem & router?
[12:55] <renemoraes> norbert79: i guess u are answearing to the wrong person
[12:55] <hariom> router: belkin; modem: Beetel
[12:55] <norbert79> renemoraes: That's probable, sorry :)
[12:55] <scotty^> Does anyone know if the kernel in the Oneiric repositories will be rebased to 3.0.20 to fix the ASPM power consumption regression?
[12:55] <renemoraes> norbert79: no problem :)
[12:55] <norbert79> patrunjel: While I never do regular partitioning but prefer LVM, here is a forum post which might give you an advise: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1590522 - They state, that the sresize should work without any issues
[12:56] <ictxiangxin> why my unity always crash?
[12:56] <hariom> flintwingel:router: belkin; modem: Beetel
[12:57] <ictxiangxin> I don't know how to treat it...
[12:58] <flintwingel> hariom: canyou give me model names or numbers as well so I can look them up
[13:00] <rick_> what is system3 program for ubuntu 11.10
[13:00] <dragancho> Hello, can anybody please expain me how to make particion on Ubuntu for Windows 7?
[13:00] <hariom> flintwingel: Belkin G Router and Beetel: 110TC1
[13:00] <rick_> dragancho: a partition?
[13:00] <dragancho> rick_ yes
[13:01] <norbert79> rick_: Did you try to look for the application within the Application manager? One other method would be using apt-cache search system3
[13:01] <ikonia> dragancho: best not to, let ubuntu installer do it with your guidence
[13:01] <dragancho> ikonia: I`m using ubuntu on 2 partitions like a half year
[13:01] <dragancho> but now i MUST install windows 7
[13:01] <chrispluns> whats the command that will update the library search path (might be asking the question wrong)
[13:01] <rick_> dragancho: gust make ubuntu cd and put it in optical drive and it will give option for partition just follow instructions
[13:01] <dragancho> to do something
[13:02] <dragancho> But if I do that
[13:02] <dragancho> Ubuntu will format
[13:02] <dragancho> the partition i'll edit
[13:02] <rick_> norbert79: yes ive got it so tell me what does it do
[13:02] <dragancho> I got two partitions on my Ubuntu one is 50Gb mount: /      other is 200gb mount: Home
[13:03] <dragancho> both of them are for linux
[13:03] <dragancho> not NFSJ
[13:03] <norbert79> rick_: I don't know, but use apt-cache show cl-asdf to have detailed info on that. I don't have it installed; maybe one of your applications installed it as dependency
[13:03] <ADDY> hello could any body please tell me how to install vlc in ubuntu 11
[13:04] <ubuntuaddicted> morning
[13:04] <dragancho> ADDY just run Ubuntu Software Center
[13:04] <ADDY> i already download it as offline
[13:04] <dragancho> and type VLC
[13:04] <rick_> im trying to figure out how to use terminal to view system info
[13:04] <dragancho> then right click on it propertis
[13:04] <dragancho> and allow execute
[13:04] <norbert79> rick_: System info?
[13:04] <rick_> yup
[13:04] <ADDY> dragancho; i try it want internet connection
[13:04] <norbert79> rick_: Define "System info"
[13:05] <dragancho> How do you chat with us
[13:05] <dragancho> if you dont have connection ?
[13:05] <ADDY> dragancho;i already download it but not abel to install it
[13:05] <rick_> like what you get when you type it into windows cmd exe
[13:05] <ADDY> dragancho;i use xp in my office from where i chat and ubuntu is in my home in my laptop
[13:05] <ADDY> dragancho;so what to do
[13:05] <norbert79> rick_: If you refer to a 'terminal' use the small Ubuntu logo at top left, or use Alt+F2 and type terminal there, or gnome-terminal
[13:05] <bananenkampf-de> YAAAAAA
[13:06] <LjL> ADDY: you can just double click on the .deb package to install it. if it's not a .deb package, then get a .deb package.
[13:06] <ADDY> i try ones time internet on it and it start down load and fail at last with some erroe
[13:06] <ADDY> erroe
[13:06] <ADDY> error
[13:06] <scunizi> rick_: you can also ctrl+alt+t to get to a terminal
[13:06] <rick_> yes im in termanal how do i view system info
[13:06] <ADDY> ljl:how to get deb
[13:06] <dragancho> ADDY: did you downloaded the version for linux ?
[13:06] <Pici> rick_: what sort of system info? be more specific.
[13:06] <dragancho> or the version from windows
[13:06] <norbert79> dragancho: I think you should start with the basics on ADDY...
[13:06] <dragancho> from your office computer
[13:06] <ADDY> dragancho;
[13:06] <ADDY> yes
[13:06] <ADDY> from internet
[13:07] <LjL> ADDY: it probably needs dependencies. you need to have internet connection to get those.
[13:07] <LjL> !offline | ADDY
[13:07] <norbert79> rick_: Again, what do you mean by 'system info'? What exactly would you like to see?
[13:07] <scunizi> rick_: sudo lshw > ~/Desktop/HardwareInfo.txt
[13:07] <scunizi> rick_: that will create a text file of your system information
[13:09] <scunizi> .
[13:10] <ADDY> hey tell me one more thing how to run administraor,synaptic packet manager in ubuntu 11
[13:10] <rick_> scunizi: no such file or directory
[13:11] <scunizi> rick_: capital letters make a difference..
[13:11] <ADDY> i m new in ubuntu and not familier with linux tell me where i can learn it
[13:12] <scunizi> rick_: the " ~ " is a "tilde" located typically as a shift option on the key below ESC
[13:13] <rick_> it says nothing
[13:13] <rick_> is thier a step after that
[13:13] <Pici> rick_: look in the file
[13:14] <scunizi> rick_: right.. it did it's thing and created a file on your desktop called HardwareInfo.txt..
[13:14] <ADDY> is internet connection is necessery for run vlc or movies in avi format
[13:14] <scunizi> no
[13:15] <ADDY> scunizi: so tell me how can i play avi fomat movie in ubuntu 11
[13:16] <andrew123> is it possible to reinstall iceauthority
[13:16] <ikonia> !codecs | andrew123
[13:16] <scunizi> ADDY: vlc will play most everything without an issue.. you might be suffering from a "region" problem.. although I didn't think avi files suffered that problem.. sorry I don't have a direct answer.
[13:17] <rick_> what ok got it thanks
[13:18] <ADDY> scunizi: ok thanks for u r support could u pleae give me 1 more favour by tell me how can i learn ubuntu
[13:18] <ikonia> ADDY: https://help.ubuntu.com
[13:18] <ikonia> ADDY: that guide will give you a good introduction on how to use ubuntu
[13:18] <andrew123> im not having problems with playing videos, Im having problems with /var/lib/gdm/.Xauthority
[13:18] <muhammed> hi
[13:18] <ADDY> ikonia:thanks a lot for u r help
[13:19] <flintwingel> hariom: the beetel is not just a modem, from what I can tell it's a full blown router in it's own right whih means you'll need to port forward through it & the belkin (http://portforward.com/english/routers/port_forwarding/Beetel/110TC1/110TC1index.htm)
[13:19] <muhammed> how can i change login window image???
[13:19] <flintwingel> hariom: try taking the belkin out of the way and just go the the beetel for testing
[13:22] <blawiz> is it possible to get gnome-terminal to open files with xdg-open? (when using mouse to open file:///whatever.png)
[13:25] <scotty^> Does anyone know if the kernel in the Oneiric repositories will be rebased to 3.0.20 to fix the ASPM power consumption regression?
[13:25] <sidney_> Is there a system audit program for Linux the likes of  Everest, Belarc Sissoft Sandra, Speccy
[13:27] <scotty^> sidney_: If you it is system benchmarking that you want, there is the Phoronix Test Suite (PTS).  It's in the Ubuntu repositories.
[13:29] <scotty^> whois sidney_
[13:29] <scunizi> sidney_: Speccy = sudo lshw for the most part /
[13:29] <scotty^> woop!
[13:29] <scotty^> woops! even
[13:32] <sidney_> scotty^, for instance Belarc in windows will tell me the make motherboard s/n etc the make of memory size and so on\
[13:32] <scunizi> sidney_: sudo lshw will do that
[13:33] <sidney_> scunizi, I tried that but no Mother board info
[13:34] <flintwingel> sidney: have you looked at "System Profiler & Benchmark"?
[13:34] <flintwingel> sidney: dmidecode will also give you useful info
[13:35] <sidney_> flintwingel, I havent but will give it a try the only thing I've founs so far is sys info
[13:35] <scunizi> sidney_: when I run it the first item listed is the motherboard
[13:38] <sidney_> scunizi,  my mistake sudo lshw worked it just scrolled of the screen
[13:38] <scunizi> sidney_: you could sudo lshw > ~/Desktop/<filename> and look at it with an editor.
[13:38] <Pici> sidney_: or pipe it into less
[13:39] <loganrun> there is a very annoying feature, when I maximize a window that is partly off the screen it ends up on a different workspace. is there anyway to disable this odd behavior
[13:44] <loganrun> where do I get a bundle ID
[13:47] <melvincv> Hi all, how do I change the 'default formatting' to another formatting in Calc?
[13:47] <loganrun> in the .plist file I see something like com.company.$(PRODUCT_NAME:rfc1234identifier)
[13:47] <loganrun> is there a way to see what this resolves to
[13:47] <scarleo> melvincv, right click a cell and choose format cell
[13:47] <arathi> Hey i when i tried to install any packages it is showing unmet dependancies and i ran apt-get -f install. But it is not fixing it -> http://pastebin.com/qZh4G9Yq
[13:47] <norbert79> loganrun: Why don't you check out RFC 1234? I mean it must mean something
[13:48] <loganrun> norbert79, how can I tell what it means
[13:48] <norbert79> loganrun: http://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc1234 - Maybe it's related to this
[13:48] <andrew123> How would I have ubuntu automatically mount a ssh folder on boot?
[13:49] <ikonia> andrew123: ssh is userspace, it's not something you'll do at a global "boot" level
[13:49] <rumpe1> andrew123, google for sshfs and fstab
[13:49] <norbert79> andrew123: I think you are thinking on the SSHFS..
[13:49] <norbert79> rumpe1: Ha :)
[13:50] <andrew123> im talking about sshfs
[13:50] <andrew123> I use nautilus
[13:50] <norbert79> andrew123: Then it's /etc/fstab you would like to take a look at
[13:50] <loganrun> norbert79, I don't think rfc1234identifier has anything to do with that web site, I am guessing it is something arbitrary but I which I could find out how to st the Bundle identifier and determine what it resolves it. It is apparently something every single person who publishes an app must do
[13:50] <scarleo> andrew123, it's explained here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SSHFS
[13:51] <sattu941> Hi!
[13:51] <andrew123> thanks
[13:51] <norbert79> loganrun: Oh, I thought it's related to some network-application
[13:51] <norbert79> loganrun: Well, a bit details on the application where you see this would help
[13:51] <loganrun> norbert79, .plist
[13:51] <norbert79> that's a file...
[13:53] <zhangsong> hello
[13:53] <loganrun> "When developing your app, you need a development provisioning profile with an app ID that is compatible with the app’s bundle ID"
[13:53] <norbert79> loganrun: But what application does this file provide for you?
[13:53] <loganrun> norbert79, it is the info.plist file for the app, yes
[13:53] <Amoz> is anybody here ?
[13:54] <zhangsong> yes
[13:54] <zhangsong> hello
[13:54] <loganrun> norbert79, there statement in the docs makes it sound like it is not entirely arbitrary
[13:54] <norbert79> loganrun: No, but what are you trying to use? I mean DEB packages never need any .plist files...
[13:54] <norbert79> loganrun: But which docs? Where?
[13:54] <Amoz> well
[13:54] <Amoz> I need your help
[13:55] <Amoz> Do you know how can I find
[13:55] <loganrun> norbert79, ahh too much multitasking sorry wrong channel
[13:55] <Amoz> a chat room
[13:55] <Amoz> for english or american people
[13:55] <Amoz> ?
[13:55] <andrew123> what would happen if I had an error in /etc/fstab?
[13:55] <norbert79> Amoz: This is Ubuntu technical support channel. For regular talk visit #ubuntu-offtopic
[13:56] <ikonia> andrew123: depends on the error
[13:56] <ikonia> andrew123: eg: if it's on the / file system, the machine won't boot
[13:56] <ikonia> if it's on /data, then you'll get a warning
[13:57] <andrew123> okay
[13:57] <andrew123> time for me to go
[13:58] <melvincv> I mean changing the 'default formatting' option - got by right clicking on the spreadsheet to a formatting of my choice.
[14:01]  * melvincv is trying some new functions of IRC
[14:01]  * ikonia requests melvincv try then in a ##test channel not #ubuntu
[14:02] <melvincv> ok
[14:03] <melvincv> ikonia, is there any other test channel with ops?
[14:04] <melvincv> ikonia, or how do you become one?
[14:05] <melvincv> I'm not sure I know what I'm doing.
[14:05] <Marud> Hey guys
[14:05] <Marud> a little off topic
[14:06] <Pici> melvincv: Try #freenode for irc help.
[14:06] <Marud> anybody with knodledge about 4G and 3G?
[14:06] <norbert79> I guess my answer is not anymore needed then :)
[14:11] <trever420> anyone here use WiFiDOG on Ubuntu?
[14:12] <MrKeuner> I did sudo apt-get --purge remove puppet-common stil see puppet-common as status 'rc' in dpkg -l
[14:12] <MrKeuner> why is that?
[14:15] <dak0> hey
[14:16] <dak0> anybody got two minutes to join me on teamviewer, i have problem with my GPartition
[14:16] <dak0> GParted*
[14:16] <dak0> Please
[14:17] <dak0> hello guys please anybody?
[14:17] <_monk_> google is friendly
[14:17] <dak0> Not enough
[14:17] <andrew_au> hi dak0, wish I could help but I wouldn't want to muck it up more :P
[14:18] <dak0> Lets try a?
[14:30] <fyksen> have a ubuntu server with transmission set up. I download most of my movies and series in .rar format. I have to unrar the movie and then look at it. Do anyone know about a movie player who can play .rar files? I know xbmc can, but xbmc is pretty resource heavy.
[14:30] <norbert79> fyksen: Let's assume we didn't see sentence 1
[14:31] <fyksen> I didnt say that the movies was open source. sry
[14:31] <_monk_> I see no crime or admission of crime
[14:31] <_monk_> innocent
[14:31] <norbert79> _monk_: Still a touchy part
[14:31] <andrew_au> fyksen, just unrar the files...
[14:31] <_monk_> yes
[14:31] <norbert79> fyksen: For RAR I think you could try VLC experimental, since it will support it
[14:31] <norbert79> fyksen: but yes, plain unrar is easier
[14:32] <fyksen> Yeah, i know i can unrar the files.. The problem is that it's a hassel to unrar on the server.. 1st. world problem i guess..
[14:32] <Davespice> hi guys o/
[14:32] <fyksen> I wil try vlc experimental
[14:32] <andrew_au> fyksen: for a dollar a day you can give ssh to a 3rd world child
[14:32] <norbert79> fyksen: I think the newest VLC will support RAR
[14:33] <norbert79> fyksen: Would be worth giving that a try
[14:33] <fyksen> haha
[14:33] <pros977> Good morning ubuntu.
[14:33] <fyksen> yeah, ty guys
[14:33] <Davespice> question about Ubuntu One, Windows Client, I have lost the system tray Icon, it doesn't dock anymore after Quitting the Ubuntu One control panel and then running it again. Any ideas appreciated.  Thanks.
[14:34] <_monk_> good morning pros977
[14:34] <Davespice> ah I've worked it out :)
[14:34] <DJones> davidcalle: You may get a better response to that in #ubuntuone which is the official support channel for ubuntuone
[14:35] <Davespice> it needs the --minimized command line parameter
[14:35] <DJones> davidcalle: Sorry that was for Davespice
[14:35] <Davespice> oh right thanks
[14:35] <Davespice> I've sorted it now anyway! all the best! ;)
[14:38] <athanor> hi
[14:38] <Daskreech> athanor: Welcome :)
[14:38] <athanor> Hello wolrd!!
[14:39] <athanor> my first time using IRC
[14:39] <Syd23> #join tldp
[14:39] <pros977> Can irssi filter out the 'has joined' lines?
[14:40] <ikonia> pros977: sure can,
[14:40] <Pici> !quietirssi | pros977
[14:40] <Daskreech> athanor: Welcome again as stated :)
[14:40] <norbert79> athanor: Welcome!
[14:40] <athanor> thanks
[14:40] <norbert79> athanor: Be reminded, that the #ubuntu channel is mainly for technical support only. Regular chat is at #ubuntu-offtopic
[14:41] <pros977> ty everyone. I'm dedicating my day to learning irssi forwards and backwards. thanks
[14:41] <Pici> pros977: Check out #irssi too
[14:42] <Phoebus> Following a guide to make the 'cloud' gaming service onlive.com work on Linux. I will at some point need help and ask a question. But in case you were bored and curious: http://goo.gl/KyFYU - or if you've done this before and feeling generous PM me! :)
[14:43] <athanor> HI, How can I install VIrc?
[14:44] <pros977> will do. It's been a while since I've been on irc. What's the protocol for responding directly to a user. Just type the name first?
[14:44] <user_> may
[14:45] <rick_> type the first couple lletters than hit tab
[14:45] <rick_> of the name
[14:45] <xsl> is there a file that i can setup to perform locale set per user
[14:46] <xsl> I want my server to be LC_ALL=EN but i want that user X and user Y to have LC_ALL=PT
[14:47] <pros977> rick_: brilliant. thank you
[14:48] <rick_> just passing on what has been passed on to me
[14:49] <Pici> xsl: Then place that in those user's .profile
[14:49] <rick_> anyone know how to use terminal in ubuntu 11.10 to check for open ports
[14:49] <Sicp`> I have UBuntu 10.10, and I have a printer Brother DCP-165, I got the driver for it installed and I have the cups service running
[14:49] <Pici> rick_: sudo netstat -tanp
[14:49] <llutz> rick_: "netstat -tulpen"
[14:50] <Sicp`> I print to it and I see "receiving data" on the printer, but nothing comes out
[14:50] <Sicp`> and I then see the job is completed (in the cups web interface)
[14:50] <Sicp`> there is sufficient ink and I can print from the printer itself, but not send jobs from the computer to it
[14:52] <c31r2g> here friends i'm  a newbie to linux and irc my 1st day can anyone help me in this
[14:52] <ikonia> c31r2g: what's the problem ?
[14:52] <fidel> c31r2g: start with a question or problem description
[14:52] <Sicp`> also, the man responsible for this page is an idiot, http://cjjav.blogspot.com/2010/06/installing-brother-dcp-165c-on-ubuntu.html
[14:53] <c31r2g> ikonia,fidel right now i'm using mint
[14:54] <c31r2g> i tried to install ubuntu 12.04 on celeron m processor but it doesnt show anything
[14:54] <fidel> c31r2g: 12.04 isnt stable yet
[14:54] <fidel> are you aware of that?
[14:54] <ikonia> c31r2g: it's still in beta and not released, it is not intended for "new linux users"
[14:55] <fidel> in case you just want to test it- consider using a virtual-machine or similar - as it should save you some time in case you are willing to experiment/test etc
[14:55] <c31r2g> but while loading it on i3 on my friends but it did,i'm sorry it said oneric dont remember the version
[14:56] <fidel> c31r2g: versions are relevant ;)
[14:56] <boobear> hello all please i need help and dunno the right place to go or ask from i have a sony xperia mini e10i and i still run the android 1.6 i need to update but dunno how to can someone direct me where to get info or help thanks in advace
[14:56] <ikonia> c31r2g: you need to make sure you are telling us the right version
[14:56] <haakon> Is it possible to completely disable the rate limiting feature in UFW?
[14:56] <c31r2g> fidel,ikonia im a newbie to linux itself my 1st day on irc and linux
[14:57] <fidel> c31r2g: you told us that already?
[14:57] <fidel> still you should know what image you downloaded
[14:57] <ikonia> c31r2g: you've already said that
[14:57] <pros977> rick_: nmap to check for open ports
[14:57] <ikonia> c31r2g: you still need to give us the correct information to help you
[14:58] <c31r2g> well its oneric 11.10 and .iso file i had downloaded and burnt on the dvd
[14:59] <c31r2g> anyways what is this open source and open projects,does it mean anyone can contribute or something
[14:59] <lapsusbrutus> pros977: netstat -lntp for checking own ports ;)
[14:59] <fidel> c31r2g: wiki can explain the idea of open source way better then we can
[15:00] <ikonia> c31r2g: correct, I'd suggest reading up on "FOSS" and "Gnu" for general information
[15:00] <ictxiangxin> how to replace empathy?
[15:00] <ikonia> ictxiangxin: remove it and install what you want
[15:01] <c31r2g> fidel:thanks
[15:01] <c31r2g> ikonia thanks
[15:01] <ictxiangxin> I want to use pidgin
[15:01] <rick_> ok how the heck do you use nmap
[15:01] <ictxiangxin> but
[15:01] <Scarra3> My desktop has an integrated VIDIA GeForce 9100 and I want to start running ubuntu so how do I disable the integrated one because I have one in my PCI slot its an ATI Radeon HD 5770 and ubuntu doesn't boot if I have both activated and there is no way to disable it in my bios
[15:01] <c31r2g> there are way too many people friend
[15:01] <pros977> rick_: apt-get install nmap
[15:01] <propokr> Good Morning.
[15:01] <pros977> rick_: then nmap ip_address
[15:02] <ictxiangxin> I kown, thank you
[15:02] <szal> Scarra3: in the BIOS, most likely
[15:02] <pros977> rick_: simplest use
[15:02] <pros977> rick_: will display all common open ports
[15:02] <c31r2g> fidel:how can i save these texts say logs for reference
[15:02] <rick_> it worked im trying to figure out witch command to give
[15:02] <Scarra3_> My desktop has an integrated VIDIA GeForce 9100 and I want to start running ubuntu so how do I disable the integrated one because I have one in my PCI slot its an ATI Radeon HD 5770 and ubuntu doesn't boot if I have both activated and there is no way to disable it in my bios
[15:03] <pros977> rick_: check nmap.org there is a bunch of reference. It is really powerful
[15:03] <c31r2g> ikonia:can u help me out with irc
[15:03] <propokr> I Wanna make that empathy sounds.. I mean, if a MSG is coming in.. at leats a bip or somethings. Where can I do that?
[15:04] <ikonia> c31r2g: in what respect
[15:04] <pros977> rick_: for example you can scan enitre subnets and see which computers have port 80 open.. as an example
[15:04] <c31r2g> ikonia:i want to know the basics like finding  a person say  u on network then how can i invite u
[15:05] <ikonia> c31r2g: join the channel #freenode (/join #freenode) and people in there can help you and give you links
[15:05] <Guest2990> WII
[15:05] <c31r2g> ikonia:do u know how to save these logs on XChat
[15:06] <norbert79> c31r2g: Settings/Settings
[15:06] <norbert79> Left side Chat/logging
[15:06] <c31r2g> norbert79 thanks
[15:06] <norbert79> select "enable logging of conversation to disk"
[15:06] <ikonia> c31r2g: join #xchat for xchat application help
[15:07] <c31r2g> ikonia:thanks for info
[15:08] <propokr> I Wanna make that empathy sounds.. I mean, if a MSG is coming in.. at leats a bip or somethings. Where can I do that?
[15:08] <ikonia> propokr: message from what ? what application are you using
[15:08] <silv3r_m00n> i need the contents of netinet/tcp.h , i am not on ubuntu right now
[15:09] <Yoshi765> Text Me! 916-399-3768    It's a USA phone number.
[15:09] <ikonia> Yoshi765: please don't spam here
[15:09] <c31r2g> ikonia:no ones responding
[15:09] <propokr> Google Talk
[15:09] <propokr> on empathy
[15:10] <Yoshi765> It's not spam
[15:10] <Yoshi765> It's awesomeness
[15:10] <koma> test
[15:10] <koma> Hello from Ukraine!
[15:11] <Guest2990> CIAO
[15:11] <rcmaehl_> Can I get a quick favor?
[15:13] <Guest2990> CIAO
[15:13] <rcmaehl_> ~I need to get the size in length and width in characters of TTY terminals since it would take around an hour for me to set every size and then count all by myself?
[15:13] <c31r2g> fidel:how to install and use reliance brodband wireless on ubuntu 11.04 or lower versions
[15:13] <rcmaehl_> Can anyone help
[15:13] <Guest2990> WII
[15:13] <rcmaehl_> :| failed grammar there
[15:14] <capcook> !it
[15:14] <rcmaehl_> I already know a 1024x600 tty is 126x36
[15:15] <dimago> hello all
[15:15] <rcmaehl_> dimago: hello
[15:16] <dimago> anyone has exchange server and use an email client like evolution to manage the messages?
[15:16] <EbubekirK> hi all
[15:17] <Fodi69> hi, I've made some chromium application shortcuts to my desktop, and they are launching under the same Chromium icon in the launcher! How can I prevent it, how can they be displayed as a separate application from chromium????
[15:17] <czytelnik> pawel
[15:17] <czytelnik> pawel
[15:20] <rumpe1> Fodi69, try using "chromium --user-data-dir=/some/other/dir". That should start a separate instance.
[15:21] <czytelnik> pawcio
[15:21] <overclucker> rcmaehl_fallback: echo "${COLUMNS}x${LINES}" do it for you?
[15:21] <overclucker> _fallback?
[15:22] <rcmaehl> overclucker: home pc :\
[15:22] <vindav> What is the terminal command to install firefox-10.0.tar.bz2 that I have in 'Downloads' file ?
[15:22] <vlyalcin> hii to all, how can I convert "cv.Capture" format  to "Cv.Mat" in OpenCv?
[15:22] <rcmaehl> overclucker: thanks
[15:22] <ikonia> vindav: you shouldn't do that
[15:22] <rcmaehl> ^
[15:22] <ikonia> vindav: you should use the firefox versions that are in the ubuntu software repositories
[15:23] <vindav> ikonia:   How do I do that when the system wants to load Firefox 11 which crashes even if I load it up ?
[15:23] <ikonia> vindav: what version of ubuntu are you using ?
[15:23] <mint1> brasero, k3b, gnomebaker-all spoil my dvds. Can anyone tell why this is happening? I have new pc and new ubuntu11.10. I also have tried mint and same problems there also. thanx in advance
[15:24] <vindav> ikonia: I am using Ubuntu 10.04 LTS
[15:24] <_monk_> maybe your cd room is defective
[15:24] <ikonia> !info firefox lucid
[15:24] <ikonia> vindav: buntu 10.04 uses firefox 10
[15:25] <ikonia> vindav: ubuntu
[15:25] <mint1> but it works perfectly under windows and imgburn under wine also burn well.
[15:25] <vindav> ikonia:  how do I install Firefox 10 ?
[15:25] <ikonia> vindav: you are already using firefox 10
[15:25] <_monk_> evertyhing works under windows minus windows itself
[15:25] <earspliT> i kinda suggest chromium
[15:25] <earspliT> more stable
[15:26] <degn> chromium ftw
[15:26] <norbert79> vindav: Canonical has a Mozilla Firefox team in PPA... You want to use that
[15:26] <kate_> привет! есть кто с россии
[15:26] <_monk_> I agree
[15:26] <vindav> ikonia:  I've uninstalled it, and renamed the ~.mozilla/firefox to something else.
[15:26] <ikonia> norbert79:no he doesn't
[15:26] <ikonia> vindav: why did you do that ?
[15:26] <vindav> norbert79:  how do I get that ?
[15:26] <ikonia> vindav: you don't want to use a PPA - answer my questions
[15:26] <ikonia> vindav: why did you remove firefox ?
[15:27] <DJones> !ru | kate_
[15:27] <vindav> ikonia:  I removed Firefox 11 in my system because it was crashing, and I am hoping to get Friefox 10 to be used.
[15:27] <ikonia> vindav: your system wasn't using firefox 11
[15:27] <ikonia> vindav: ubuntu 10.04 uses firefox 10
[15:28] <vindav> ikonia:  when I went to the help menu and selected 'about' it Firefox responded with version 11.
[15:28] <ikonia> vindav: then it wasn't installed as part of ubuntu
[15:28] <vindav> ikonia:  Originally Ubuntu 10.04 LTS comes with Firefox 10
[15:28] <Nimanicka> Did you known usa do have over 800 death camps ready To work ? With gas chambers train railroads
[15:28] <Nimanicka> Did you known usa do have over 800 death camps ready To work ? With gas chambers train railroads
[15:28] <ikonia> vindav: it still does come with firefox 10
[15:29] <Nimanicka> Plastick coffins and ultra hight security
[15:29] <ikonia> vindav: if you open the package manager (synaptic) search for firefox and click "install" it will install it for you
[15:29] <Nimanicka> Plastick coffins and ultra hight security
[15:29] <DevilSolution> hi guys how do i fix broken a broken package? ive tried sudo dkpg --configure -a, sudo apt-get update, sudo apt-get dist-upgrade -f
[15:29] <ikonia> Nimanicka: ?
[15:29] <norbert79> vindav: Original came with 3.6.3, then got updated to 9.0.1...
[15:29] <Nimanicka> Wake up
[15:29] <norbert79> vindav: That came with ubuntu-updates
[15:29] <ikonia> Nimanicka: do you need support with the ubuntu linux distribution ?
[15:29] <DJones> Nimanicka: That has nothing to do with the support in this channel
[15:30] <vindav> ikonia:  ok, let me do that instruction you gave using synaptic package manager.
[15:30] <Nimanicka> Sorry ikonia
[15:30] <MeirD> Hey! How can I know the WWPN of a target HCTL on my machine?
[15:30] <ikonia> Nimanicka: no problem
[15:30] <MeirD> HCT actually
[15:30] <MeirD> Where is that mapping saved
[15:31] <vindav> ikonia: My synaptic package manager show Firefox 11 as the latest version only.  Version 10 is not there at all.
[15:31] <ikonia> vindav: please take a screen shot and show me
[15:32] <vindav> ikonia:  how do I give you the screen shot ?
[15:32] <zykotick9> !paste | vindav
[15:32] <ikonia> vindav: from the applications menu there is a screen shot application, upload that to somewhere like imageshack
[15:34] <DevilSolution> what does it mean when it says "some of your packages have unmet dependencies"
[15:35] <vindav> ikonia:  http://imagebin.org/197914
[15:36] <degn> DevilSolution: What package is it? try apt-get install -f or try in recovery mode and fix broken packages
[15:36] <ikonia> vindav: have you got backports or the "proposed" repo enabled ?
[15:36] <stealz> Hi guys. I have some weird problem: In Ubuntu 10.04 / Firefox the videos on youtube have weird colours, almost like inverted. I tried removing the cookies, reinstalling flash, nothing helped. This only happens with youtube videos on the youtube site, if they are embedded on another site it works fine. other video sites work fine, too
[15:36] <vindav> ikonia:  I'll check right now'
[15:37] <zykotick9> ikonia: "apt-cache policy firefox" output might be interesting.  vindav
[15:37] <fred-fri> friend says his ssds toc is corrupt, can he recover files using livestick?
[15:37] <ikonia> very true
[15:37] <ikonia> got a quick phone conference, be interesting on seeing the detail on this when I come back
[15:37] <BioCarl> ciao
[15:37] <DevilSolution> libre office packages and the force option seems to flag the same thing
[15:37] <BioCarl> !list
[15:38] <degn> DevilSolution: Have you tried to install using software center?
[15:38] <vindav> ikonia:  http://paste.ubuntu.com/834018/
[15:38] <DevilSolution> yup it just says the package needs to be repaired
[15:38] <DevilSolution> conflicting packages - not installing libreoffice-core
[15:38] <DevilSolution> Preparing to replace eclipse-pde 3.5.2-8ubuntu3 (using .../eclipse-pde_3.7.0-0ubuntu1_i386.deb) ...
[15:38] <DevilSolution> Unpacking replacement eclipse-pde ...
[15:38] <DevilSolution> dpkg-deb (subprocess): data: internal gzip read error: '<fd:0>: data error'
[15:39] <FloodBot1> DevilSolution: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[15:39] <DevilSolution> oops
[15:39] <DevilSolution> sorry for flooding
[15:39] <zykotick9> vindav: you have the mozilla PPA installed, thus the version 11 you are getting.  PPAs are NOT part of Ubuntu, they're unsupported 3rd party.
[15:39] <DJones> vindav: Looking at that last paste, you've got firefox installed from the mozillateam ppa
[15:40] <vindav> ikonia:  http://imagebin.org/197915
[15:40] <degn> DevilSolution: I get alot of hits on "one of your packages have unmet dependencies libreoffice" on google! Try it
[15:40] <DJones> vindav: Can you upload a screenshot of the Other software tab
[15:41] <vindav> zykotick9:  how do I get rid of the mozilla PPA installed so that I can revert back to getting Firefox 10 ?
[15:41] <zykotick9> vindav: there is some ppa-purge package out there.  I don't know the specifics.
[15:42] <vindav> Djones:  http://imagebin.org/197916
[15:42] <vindav> ikonia:  http://imagebin.org/197916
[15:43] <norbert79> vindav: apt-get install firefox=9.0.1+build1-0ubuntu0.10.04.1 , and remove the PPA then... You need to 'downgrade'. In case of Firefox I don't see any FF10 coming from official Lucid-updates
[15:43] <Jragon> Hi!
[15:43] <norbert79> vindav: You had the firefox-next PPA set... That's for preview versions
[15:43] <DJones> vindav: That does confirm it, you've got the mozillateam ppa for firefox-next in your sources list
[15:43] <norbert79> vindav: firefox-stable is the one providing the current stable
[15:44] <vindav> Djones:  so what do I do ?
[15:44] <norbert79> vindav: in PPA
[15:44] <Jragon> How do I move un allocated space from my extanded partition9/dev/sda2 to unallocated space out side of /dev/sda2?
[15:44] <vindav> norbert79:  so what do I do ?
[15:44] <norbert79> vindav: check personal message
[15:44] <renemoraes> i'm with a problem with some flashs in my screen and i was looking to my xorg.0.log but i dont know how can i understand it, can anyone help me?
[15:45] <DevilSolution> degn, yeh it seems so, would purging or deleting libre office work?
[15:45] <DJones> vindav: Just hold on until ikonia comes back to make sure, I would uninstall firefox, then remove the ppa, then update my package list and then reinstall firefox which should get you back to the default version, but as you're on lucid, I'm not sure whether that has been updated
[15:46] <Jragon> I'm using the gparted live cd...
[15:46] <Jragon> What should I do?
[15:46] <degn> DevilSolution: Just try to delete it
[15:46] <DevilSolution> okay
[15:46] <vindav> Djones:  can you find out please ?
[15:47] <Scarra3_> is there anyone who can help me?
[15:47] <holstein> Jragon: sometimes you just cant (not easliy anyways)... you can take a screenie if you want of the gparted window
[15:47] <degn> DevilSolution: Let me now if you get stuck again or if you solved it
[15:47] <mgalloway> does anyone know iptable commands?
[15:47] <theadmin> Scarra3_: You need to ask the question first
[15:47] <holstein> mgalloway: i use ufw
[15:47] <Scarra3_> theadmin: I have asked it many times for the past 3 days lol
[15:47] <Scarra3_> My desktop has an integrated VIDIA GeForce 9100 and I want to start running ubuntu so how do I disable the integrated one because I have one in my PCI slot its an ATI Radeon HD 5770 and ubuntu doesn't boot if I have both activated and there is no way to disable it in my bios
[15:47] <pros977> test
[15:48] <vampir> D
[15:48] <degn> mgalloway: like holstein says, ufw is easy! google it
[15:48] <mgalloway> well I need to update a dd-wrt router, ufw is a gui
[15:48] <DevilSolution> okie dokie, opening synaptic package manager now
[15:48] <theadmin> Scarra3_: Just load the driver for the ATI in the xorg.conf, I suppose that shall make it ignore the nvidia
[15:48] <flintwingel> iptables does more than just basic firewall
[15:48] <holstein> mgalloway: nah... its CLI... sudo ufw enable for example
[15:48] <Oer> degn "google it" is not helpfull
[15:48] <andrew_au> I've setup a VPN server with two network interfaces, can I route traffic from one to another interface?
[15:49] <Scarra3_> theadmin: the problem is that ubuntu will not boot with 2 video cards
[15:49] <flintwingel> mgalloway: what are you trying to do?
[15:49] <mgalloway> I have 2 dd-wrt wrt54gl routers, one with 192.168.1.x address and the other with 192.168.2.x address. I need to update the iptables to forward packets from/to each router through their WAN ports.
[15:49] <theadmin> Scarra3_: That's not really a problem. Append "text" to the kernel line and boot into text mode, after which do what I said
[15:49] <degn> Oer: You are right, my bad :)
[15:49] <mgalloway> I need all traffic from the 1.x LAN to be forwarded to the 2.x router's WAN address.
[15:49] <Oer> mgalloway, did you look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IptablesHowTo
[15:50] <Scarra3_> theadmin: plus I don't know how to install the drivers theres always somthing about turning off xserver
[15:50] <holstein> Scarra3_: i have not encoutered that... i believe its due to the type of cards and drivers... i would try some live CD's and see if you can get to a desktop.. even using a knoppix live CD could be helpful... you can "borrow" the xorg.conf from there if it works
[15:50] <andrew_au> Oer: will this help me as well :P
[15:50] <Jragon> holstein: It wont work :(
[15:50] <flintwingel> mgalloway: sounds like routing rather than port manipulation... or am i missing the point
[15:50] <Jragon> I'm on the Gparted live cd
[15:50] <holstein> Jragon: ?... the screen shot?...
[15:50] <getmizanur> quit
[15:50] <mgalloway> it's not port manipulation.  It is routing all traffic
[15:50] <getmizanur> elloo
[15:50] <Jragon> yeah, it doesn't take a proper screene
[15:51] <theadmin> Scarra3_: Meh. sudo apt-get install fglrx # For ATI drivers
[15:51] <flintwingel> mgalloway: if there's no NAT involved then all you should need is a static route
[15:51] <Jragon> holstein: Well, third time luck, postimage.org/image/hsc08ddap/
[15:51] <holstein> Jragon: well... you can take a picture with a cell phone.. you can start describing the layout... you can run fdisk -l and go from there
[15:51] <dimago> anyone use evolution with Exchange server?
[15:51] <mgalloway> ok, how would I set a static route for both tcp/udp traffic?
[15:52] <mgalloway> it is a static route, I just dont know the iptable commands to do it.
[15:52] <holstein> mgalloway: a static IP? you can do that in the gui.. i have never needed to do that to maintain my ddwrt routers though
[15:53] <flintwingel> mgalloway: you wouldn't use iptables to setup a static route. There is an Advanced Routing tab under the Setup tab of DD-WRT
[15:53] <mgalloway> for example I want machines behind one ddrwt router on the 192.168.1.x address to be able to ping machines behind another ddwrt router with machines having 192.168.2.x addresses
[15:54] <damo22> mgalloway: it depends on the network topology
[15:54] <Jragon> holstein: I want ot move the unallocated in sda2 to the unallocated out side of it, so I can have a new os install
[15:54] <freeminds> I am trying to mount my SSD, but ubuntu doesn't detect it. Kernel: 2.6.32-38-generic | fdisk -l doesn't show SSD | dmesg doesn't show my SATA 3 Ports
[15:54] <mgalloway> I see the advanced routing tab.  Why would it depend on the topology?
[15:55] <damo22> mgalloway: because it depends if the 192.168.2.x machines are on the same wire as the 192.168.1.x machines
[15:55] <holstein> freeminds: i would probable try live CD's till i see it, then make a note of the kernel version, and make sure the hardware is functioning
[15:55] <flintwingel> mgalloway: the network topology will tell you how to setup the routes
[15:55] <freeminds> holstein, the bios detects the SSD
[15:56] <freeminds> so I guess ubuntu should show me at least anything
[15:56] <freeminds> *something
[15:56] <freeminds> but I will try the live-cd option
[15:56] <holstein> freeminds: correct.. but in this case, i would not need to "guess"
[15:56] <mgalloway> would I not just use the advanced routing tab, set destination lan net to the public IP of the other router?
[15:57] <Jragon> holstein: Can I do that with GParted?
[15:57] <holstein> freeminds: its likely just a compatibility issue like you are assuming though... you could poke around for a bug report
[15:57] <getmizanur> quit
[15:57] <damo22> mgalloway: i dont know how your network is connected
[15:57] <freeminds> holstein, ok thanks.
[15:57] <mgalloway> I have 2 routers connected by a switch
[15:57] <flintwingel> mgalloway: you need to set the routes on both routers at the same time so the "response" packets know how to get back
[15:57] <mgalloway> both routers have a public WAN IP address though.
[15:58] <holstein> Jragon: you cant just install to that empty space?
[15:58] <Jragon> I don't think so, it's a windows os
[15:58] <compdoc> mgalloway, two different wan ip addresses?
[15:58] <mgalloway> yes
[15:58] <Jragon> If i can I cetainly will...
[15:58] <holstein> Jragon: you can load up the installation CD and remove all doubt
[15:58] <Jragon> Okay
[15:59] <flintwingel> mgalloway: ... so you got two separate LANs with two separate internet connections and you want them to talk to each other ...?
[15:59] <mgalloway> 2 ddwrt routers, both with unique public IP addresses
[15:59] <andrew_au> mgalloway: do you just need a small amount of hosts pingable?
[15:59] <mgalloway> yes
[15:59] <flintwingel> mgalloway: sounds more like you want VPNs
[15:59] <holstein> yup.. a VPN tunnel is appropriate for that setup
[15:59] <mgalloway> I'd rather just update the iptables and not use VPN
[16:00] <damo22> cant you just hook a wire from the lan side to the lan side of each
[16:00] <holstein> mgalloway: AFAIK, that wont work
[16:00] <andrew_au> you could always use 10.10.x.x instead if they are at the same site
[16:00] <Scarra3_> theadmin: Shouldn't I go with the drivers from ATI's website?
[16:00] <damo22> and use the same subnet
[16:00] <theadmin> Scarra3_: No. Don't unless you're sure you need them... Repositories make more sense
[16:01] <Scarra3_> theadmin: But arn't the drivers from ATI's website made specificly for my card
[16:01] <flintwingel> mgalloway: iptables would probably be able to do what you want by NAT'ing and MASQUERADING the packets but it will be **horribly** complicated. IIRC even the basic versions of DD-WRT have PPTP built in. Try that
[16:01] <mgalloway> the two routers are in the same room.  But I want it to work if I get a 3rd router and have a site somewhere else.
[16:02] <damo22> i dont know enough about vpn to help you
[16:02] <DevilSolution> degn, sorted, i removed libre office and replaced it with emacs and used sudo apt-get clean and sudo apt-get install -f to clean and re-downlaod the eclipse tar file that i guess was corrupted :)
[16:03] <mgalloway> I only know enough to know what I need, I just dont know the best way to go about it
[16:03] <theadmin> Scarra3_: No, lol, you think you're special? There's pretty much a single driver for most ATI cards nowadays
[16:03] <theadmin> Scarra3_: fglrx, that is
[16:03] <mgalloway> I think the advanced routing tab in ddwrt is what I need
[16:03] <damo22> mgalloway: cant you just hook a wire from the LAN side to the LAn side of each router and add a static route to the routing table of each router
[16:03] <Scarra3_> theadmin: So the fglrx drivers are better and the ATI ones?
[16:04] <theadmin> Scarra3_: Err... They ARE the ATI drivers
[16:04] <mgalloway> yes, but I need this to work across the internet too
[16:04] <flintwingel> mgalloway: no, your traiic will get lost. The 192.168.x.x address space is pfor private LANs only.  Your ISP will not route
[16:04] <andrew_au> mgalloway: I would recommend a vpn then
[16:04] <Scarra3_> theadmin: I thought they were ones created by other individuals not by ati
[16:04] <tonio> ciao a tutti
[16:04] <trever420> anyone here use WiFiDog on Ubuntu Server?
[16:05] <dleonardi> tonio: try english or #ubuntu.it
[16:05] <mgalloway> I know the 192 addresses are private, but the routers have public WAN addresses, cant i set a static route to their public addresses?
[16:06] <damo22> you will get packets going in a circle
[16:06] <mgalloway> why's that?
[16:07] <flintwingel> mgalloway: it might work... i'm trying to work out just what will happen. This is such a "natural" situation for a VPN that I've never encountered such a setup
[16:08] <compdoc> when you set a route, you provide the ip address and the gateway the packets are sent to, but where would you set the ip address of the remote router?
[16:08] <Scarra3_> theadmin: are the fglrx drivers automatically in ubuntu 11.10 or do I need to install them seperatly
[16:08] <mgalloway> example would be machine (1.113) pings machine (2.100)  I set a static route from 1.113's router to 2.100's router.  assuming I allow incoming communication on both routers, shouldnt this work?
[16:08] <theadmin> Scarra3_: They're propertiary so we don't include them on the CD. You need to do "sudo apt-get install fglrx"
[16:09] <flintwingel> mgalloway: no I don't think routing will work. Even theough the packets from the source LAN will have ther private address rewritten by NAT on the first router the target address will still be the private LAN of the second network so your ISP will blackhole the packets
[16:09] <trever420> mgalloway.. sorry i'm entering this late... for clarification what is your router?
[16:09] <trever420> did you say DDWRT?
[16:09] <mgalloway> I know this is common for VPN, but if a simple static route will work, I'd rather do that
[16:09] <mgalloway> wrt54gl, dd-wrt vpn version
[16:09] <trever420> i see
[16:10] <trever420> i wouldnt do a static route
[16:10] <flintwingel> mgalloway: do you also use a spanner to drive home nails?
[16:10] <trever420> mainly for what flintwingel said
[16:10] <damo22> lol
[16:10] <trever420> but in theory it could work
[16:10] <Scarra3_> the admin: Thanks for the help I have been trying to solve this problem for a while now I just need to find out if my other hardware is supported I know my web cam is but im not sure about my wireless
[16:10] <trever420> not if they are both connected to the wan port tho
[16:10] <theadmin> Scarra3_: "iwlist wlan0 scan" returns anything?
[16:11] <theadmin> Scarra3_: If it does, your wireless likely works :D
[16:11] <trever420> to be honest your best bet is vpn between the two routers
[16:11] <trever420> i know thats not the solution you are looking for
[16:11] <ikonia> vindav: I'm back, did you resolve the issue ?
[16:11] <flintwingel> trever420: AFAIK its two router with two separate internet connections that just happen to be in the same room at the moment
[16:12] <Scarra3_> I'm not in ubuntu right now lol its a netgear N600
[16:12] <trever420> fascinating
[16:12] <damo22> mgalloway: another way is to set the subnets to be the same 192.168.1.x and switch off dhcp on one of the routers
[16:12] <vindav> ikonia:   norbert79 help me through everything step by step for a complete solution.   :D
[16:12] <ikonia> vindav: great, so your sorted.
[16:12] <mgalloway> right but that limits the number of machines I can have
[16:12] <damo22> mgalloway: you need more than 255 machines?
[16:12] <trever420> solol
[16:13] <trever420> lol*
[16:13] <mgalloway> I'm connecting clouds, so lots of vm's
[16:13] <Scarra3_> Only things I am worried about not working is my wireless, keyboard & mouse, and web camera btw how does skype on ubuntu compare to skype on windows and should I go with x64 or the x86 version of ubuntu I have an AMD Athlon x4 2.6 GHz and 6 GB of Ram
[16:13] <Dr_willis1> Scarra3_:  use 64bit if your cpu supports it.
[16:13] <Scarra3_> Dr_willis1: thanks
[16:13] <theadmin> Scarra3_: If you have more than 3 GB of RAM you *really* should use the 64-bit version, otherwise you'll be wasting system resources
[16:14] <damo22> mgalloway: i find it difficult to believe you require more than 255 machines as a home user
[16:14] <mgalloway> It's not for home use.  It's a cloud environment
[16:14] <bananenkampf-de> hey there, i'm running windows xp in a virtualbox on oneiric. i want to install the guest additions but virtualbox promted that it was unable to download the guest additions from oracle server. what can i do?
[16:14] <Scarra3_> Ya I used ubuntu before but that was a long time about I am trying to make the perminent switch to linux since I really don't like windows and don't use it for anything more than web surfing
[16:15] <trever420> mgalloway what's wrong with using a VPN if you dont mind my asking?
[16:15] <mgalloway> I have 15 machines behind 1 router, and about 10 behind the other, both routers having vpn interfaces for users, and hosting 60-70 virtual machines
[16:15] <trever420> i mean u have DDWRT VPN which allows that i'm sure
[16:15] <mbeierl>  mgalloway: if you use 192.x and you're trying to ge that to route between the two routers over the public internet, you should realize that means anyone can get into your subnets.  If you do manage to get them to talk to each other with static routes, nothing will prevent rouge traffic from also entering your networks, and all traffic between them will be visible over the public internet.
[16:15] <Dr_willis1> Scarra3_:  you do know that MS bought skype? :)
[16:15] <mgalloway> I know
[16:16] <trever420> i second what mbeier1 says
[16:16] <Scarra3_> Dr_willis1: sadly they did
[16:16] <mgalloway> yes, i have the vpn version of ddwrt, I was only trying not to use the option for creating a vpn tunnel between the routers
[16:16] <mbeierl> Scarra3_, with 6gb of ram, I'd vote for 64 bit.
[16:16] <Scarra3_> Dr_willis1: but I live in Okinawa so its the only way I can talk to friends and family in america
[16:16] <Dr_willis1> Scarra3_:  google has extended their phone thing free for another year.  Not sure how well it works on ubuntu however. I rarely use VOIP stuff
[16:16] <LucidGuy> Question:  What is the point of a listserv? Mailman seems to be a popular option?
[16:17] <Dr_willis1> Scarra3_:  I belive theres other chat tools. but it depends on what they use also.
[16:17] <Lint> how is called the thing that mounts disks in /media?
[16:17] <Scarra3_> Dr_willis1: They use skype
[16:18] <theadmin> Lint: Most automatic mounting is handled by GVFS
[16:18] <Dr_willis1> Educate them in others :)
[16:18] <mbeierl> Scarra3_, btw, I use skype on 64b Linux and it works well for me.  Not sure about the latest (v5?) with three-way calling, though
[16:18] <mgalloway> thanks guys for all of your help.  I will look into this more, and see if I have any other questions!
[16:18] <Lint> i mean specifically hd partition mounting
[16:19] <Scarra3_> mbeierl: Do I download skype from their website or the repos
[16:19] <bananenkampf-de> skype in the repos is good! use it since yesterday
[16:19] <theadmin> Lint: I beleive that's done via fstab. At least the most sane way to d othat would be that.
[16:19] <qo_op> Hi, some one know why i cant see bootslash(bootscreen) before login screen, its only black until bootscreen..
[16:20] <Lint> not fs tab, the automatic mounting of partitions in gnome xfce kade other des, how is it make with what software?
[16:20] <EtgarDizz> hi all, I'm having trouble changing login window theme... the "login window" option doesn't exist in my "administration" menu, just "login screen"...
[16:21] <theadmin> Lint: Gnome? GVFS. KDE has it's own libs too, and I beleive XFCE uses the same way as gnome does
[16:21] <damo22> mgalloway: you could use 10.x.x.x addresses and not be restricted by 255 machines on the one subnet
[16:21] <Dr_willis1> qo_op:  the plymouth stuff has issues with some video card drivers.    theres some work arounds. but i just disable the pointless plymouth eyecandy
[16:21] <Lint> are you trying to troll me or what?
[16:21] <theadmin> Lint: lolwut? No. I'm just saying exactly how it is.
[16:21] <Dr_willis1> EtgarDizz:  what ubuntu version are you using?
[16:22] <theadmin> Lint: Don't want my help? Fine, I'll stop talking. Not that I care.
[16:22] <EtgarDizz> Dr_willis1: 11.04 with gnome classic theme
[16:22] <Lint> if they all are mounted in /media in same way in all des it must be same software, don;t feed me disinformation
[16:22] <GTRsdk> What's the package name for the Printing settings in the System Settings?
[16:22] <_Marcus> Hello, ActionParsnip yesterday told me to edit /etc/default/grub and add something to it to run command line(not load GUI), Seeing how ActionParsnip isn't here, what do I add there?
[16:23] <biaxs> #backtrack-it
[16:23] <zykotick9> Lint: look into fuse (possibly udev as well)
[16:23] <qo_op> Dr_willis1, kk, i just see a black screen, no text on booting :/
[16:23] <compdoc> Lint, you mean automatic mounting of external drives and cds?
[16:23] <Dr_willis1> EtgarDizz:  if its using the gdm3 - i dont think its very themeable at all.  you can do some minor changes - wallpaper and a few otehr things.
[16:23] <_Marcus> So what do I add to /etc/default/grub to make it run command line instead of GUI?
[16:23] <Dr_willis1> EtgarDizz:  i recall some tricks to run   the gnome settings tools as the gdm user, that let you change the fonts and colors and a few other things.
[16:24] <theadmin> Lint: They're mounted in /media just because it's the standard place for this stuff. Look at FHS.
[16:24] <Dr_willis1> EtgarDizz:  but its a bit of a hassle
[16:24] <zykotick9> !text | _Marcus
[16:24] <Lint> i have no qualification required to look into anything, but I need to know how the mount options for hard drive partitions are defined
[16:24] <_Marcus> zykotick9: Thank you
[16:24] <Dr_willis1> !udev
[16:24] <imbezol> Lint: harddrive partitions are generally not mounted in /media
[16:24] <imbezol> Lint: options are specified in /etc/fstab
[16:25] <Lint> of course they are
[16:25] <xxxxxx> i had the same problem with a black splash screen. To fix it i used the grub boot repair disc
[16:25] <imbezol> /media is usually removable devices
[16:25] <EtgarDizz> Dr_willis1: so what needs to be different in my installation in order to see the login window options?
[16:25] <Dr_willis1> auto mounting is a differnt aspect then system partitions.
[16:26] <qo_op> what does this meens *** Notice -- TS for #ubuntu.no changed from 1328717042 to 1264836165 ?
[16:26] <xxxxxx> with the repair disc there is an option to show splash screen without the need to re-install grub or mess about with any settings
[16:26] <Dr_willis1> EtgarDizz:  Not sure. I recall running the gnome settings as the gdm user and changeing the colors. and tweaking the default wallpaper.  I think theres some info on doing it on the webupd8 blog site and most likely on the askubuntu.com site. I use 11.10 now. so dont recall much about gdm3 tweaking.
[16:26] <LukeNukem> yo guys
[16:26] <damo22> qo_op: it means the timestamp on the channel join was updated
[16:26] <LukeNukem> im having an argument friend of mine Windows vs Linux..what are some of the points i can use?
[16:27] <qo_op> damo22, well when i connect its noe one ther :S
[16:27] <xxxxxx> windows sucks
[16:27] <Dr_willis1> LukeNukem:  its a pointless argument. Use what tools you need to do the job you want to do.
[16:27] <Lint> LukeNukem, price is the only Linux advantage
[16:27] <qo_op> xxxxxx, then try out ubuntu :)
[16:27] <qo_op> damo22, * ChanServ (ChanServ@services.) has joined #ubuntu.no
[16:27] <qo_op> * services. gives channel operator status to ChanServ
[16:27] <qo_op> * ChanServ (ChanServ@services.) has left #ubuntu.no
[16:27] <ikonia> LukeNukem: this isn't an ubuntu question
[16:27] <Dr_willis1> Its not the only advantage.. but this is better discussed in the OT channel.
[16:28] <damo22> Lint: bs, there are loads of advantages
[16:28] <xxxxxx> linux mint all the way
[16:28] <GreyDark> eeeeee
[16:28] <GreyDark> wtf
[16:28] <imbezol> damo22: don't feed the troll
[16:28] <ikonia> LukeNukem: I'd suggest trying ##linux
[16:28] <_Marcus> Do I remove "splash" to git rid of that GUI when it's loading
[16:28] <quiescens> qo_op: it sounds like there's just noone else there
[16:28]  * Lint remembers kernel.org incident
[16:28] <_Marcus> I'd like to see the command line printing when Ubuntu is loading
[16:28] <ikonia> xxxxxx: please keep the pointless comments out
[16:28] <Dr_willis1> _Marcus:  try 'nosplash noquiet'
[16:28] <GreyDark> please trooling and flood
[16:28] <_Marcus> Ah
[16:28] <EtgarDizz> Dr_willis1: are you saying that 11.10 reverted back to the "login window" settings option under "administration"?
[16:28] <qo_op> quiescens, thats wird, wass the Norwegian #ubuntu chan S:
[16:28] <Lint> still where are options for automatically mounted partitions coming from?
[16:29] <quiescens> qo_op: maybe bad time of day there or something, i am not sure
[16:29] <ikonia> Lint: the options are determained between udev and (used to be hal) depenidng on things such as file system type
[16:29] <Dr_willis1> EtgarDizz:  11.10 switched to lightdm - which is not very themeable at all either.  So i suggest not worrying about trying to theme the login screen, other then perhaps to change the wallpaper.
[16:29] <Dr_willis1> EtgarDizz:  thats one reason i dont re,mer how to tweak gdm3 :)
[16:29] <john_doe_jr> I'm in a vmware virtual machine...if I leave my machine on htop shows that I gradually keep using more and more swp memory...this is over hours and hours...does anyone have any idea why this is happening?
[16:29] <ikonia> now I believe hal is totally defunct in this process
[16:29] <Lint> ikonia, are they hardcoded or in config file somewhere?
[16:30] <EtgarDizz> got it, thanks:)
[16:30] <_Marcus> What, I just added "text", did "sudo update-grub", and restarted the Ubuntu machine, and it still went to GUI
[16:30] <Dr_willis1> I thought it was udev rules...
[16:30] <ikonia> Lint: I believe part hard coded part dyanmic depending on the option, eg: the mount point is taken from the device label (therefore dyanamic)
[16:30] <ikonia> Dr_willis1: don't think the udev rules set the mount options, it used to be done through hal
[16:31] <quiescens> qo_op: i believe its actually #ubuntu-no
[16:31] <qo_op> quiescens, LOL! eppic fail!
[16:31] <qo_op> ;P
[16:31] <qo_op> thx
[16:31] <qo_op> whaha
[16:32] <EtgarDizz> Dr_willis1: btw - how was the upgrade to 11.10? buggy? thinking about doing it but worried about it breaking all kinds of java/sdk/juniper/printer/sane/sensors/ati/..... stuff
[16:32] <Lint> what is apt-get command for release upgrade?
[16:32] <Lint> *next
[16:33] <bananenkampf-de> apt-get -d or?
[16:33] <ikonia> Lint: that isn't how you upgrade
[16:33] <ikonia> !upgrade >lin
[16:33] <ikonia> !upgrade >lint
[16:33] <bananenkampf-de> !upgrade > bananenkampf-de
[16:33] <yezariaely> How can I install the gspca driver on my ubuntu?
[16:34] <codeperl> hello there.
[16:34] <codeperl> i am i a big problem i think
[16:34] <tonio>  !list
[16:34] <codeperl> please help
[16:34] <Lint> will it reinstall all terrible c..p buntu comes woth by default?
[16:34] <deadsingular> !upgrade > deadsingular
[16:34] <ikonia> Lint: is there really a need for the way you talk
[16:35] <codeperl> i changed my /etc/fstab for mount point. there i unfortunately rewrite root mount.
[16:35] <ikonia> Lint: if you don't want ubuntu stuff - use a different distro
[16:35] <Lint> sorry
[16:35] <codeperl> now, when i tried to boot it says it can mount the root
[16:35] <ikonia> Lint: just talk to people normally, and people will respond better
[16:35] <codeperl> please help
[16:35] <bananenkampf-de> codepearl: start from the live cd and edit your fstab?
[16:35] <Lint> i want just packages that are installed now on my machine, can it be done?
[16:36] <ikonia> Lint: if you upgrade it will upgrade what you have
[16:36] <codeperl> i've no live cd
[16:36] <ikonia> codeperl: you need to get one
[16:36] <codeperl> cd/dvd rom drive even
[16:36] <bananenkampf-de> download the iso and create a bootable usb stick?
[16:36] <bananenkampf-de> it's quiet simple
[16:36] <no_gravity> Good Evening from Germany! Today I booted into my ubuntu partition and Ubuntu updated Grub. Now when I boot, my encrypted Debian partition is gone. Well, its still there, but when I boot it, it doesnt ask for a password to decrypt the encrypted partition but instead initialises the debian on the boot partition itself. Did I describe that in an understandable way? I wonder how to get back my encrypted debian system now.
[16:36] <codeperl> i ve a pen drive but i can not use that
[16:36] <ikonia> codeperl: you need to make a usb boot device then
[16:36] <EtgarDizz> Dr_willis1: answer buggy as well ? :)
[16:37] <ikonia> codeperl: then you need to buy a CDrom
[16:37] <angelete2> hi again
[16:37] <Lint> i read the bot link but it's for gui
[16:37] <codeperl> is there any other way?
[16:37] <ikonia> Lint: read the server lines then
[16:37] <quiescens> you might be able to mess with grub as it boots and specify a root=somethingorather? i forget
[16:37] <bananenkampf-de> no_gravity, du kanst nicht auf die partition zugreifen oder nicht das OS davon booten?
[16:37] <ikonia> !de > bananenkampf-de
[16:37] <codeperl> i am getting a message. root password for maintainence
[16:37] <Lint> !upgrade > lint
[16:37] <john_doe_jr> I'm in a vmware virtual machine...if I leave my machine on htop shows that I gradually keep using more and more swp memory...this is over hours and hours...does anyone have any idea why this is happening?  VM has 2048 MB while host machine has 10 GB of RAM, htop shows 'Tasks: 521 total, 1 running, Load average: 0.51 3.03 3.59 , Mem 1312/2009 MB , Swp 831/894 MB
[16:37] <ikonia> codeperl: are you using ubuntu  ?
[16:38] <Jon--> My wireless is disconnecting intermediately. I haven't had an issue with this in the past. I am running Ubuntu 11.04. lspci - 08:00.0 Network controller: Atheros Communications Inc. AR928X Wireless Network Adapter (PCI-Express) (rev 01
[16:38] <codeperl> ya
[16:38] <ikonia> codeperl: have you set a root password ?
[16:38] <Dr_willis1> EtgarDizz:  I always do clean installs. Ive had no issues with 11.10
[16:38] <codeperl> no
[16:38] <ikonia> codeperl: then there is something very wrong with your install - more than fstab
[16:38] <ikonia> codeperl: can you boot into the recovery shell from grub
[16:38] <angelete2> i have a ubuntu virtualized in my windows box
[16:38] <codeperl> how to do that?
[16:39] <no_gravity> bananenkampf-de: well, obviously on the partition that my encrypted debian partition uses as /boot there also is a whole debian installation. And that one boots now.
[16:39] <EtgarDizz> Dr_willis1: well that means you configure all your hardware from the start? not sure I'm up for that yet...
[16:39] <ikonia> codeperl: select "recovery mode" from the grub menu
[16:39] <codeperl> ok
[16:39] <codeperl> then?
[16:39] <blitz> Every time I use apt-get to install something winbind fails
[16:39] <ikonia> codeperl: you should get a command prompt and you can fix your OS
[16:39] <Dr_willis1> EtgarDizz:  whats to configure?  I install my video card drivers.. and thats it..
[16:39] <codeperl> let me try
[16:39] <Dr_willis1> EtgarDizz:  from a empty hd to a working system.. perhaps 30 min tops..
[16:39] <codeperl> i am comming back
[16:40] <bananenkampf-de> no_gravity, okay sorry i cant help you there :D i have not so much experience with encrypted devices...
[16:40] <codeperl> and inform you
[16:40] <codeperl> thank you for your information
[16:40] <ikonia> codeperl: don't need informing
[16:40] <angelete2> both my ubuntu and windows have 2 network adapters, one cable (network .0.0) and wireless(.1.0), virtualized adapters are attached to real devices so they have .1.12 and .0.143 addresses
[16:40] <Jon--> My wireless is disconnecting intermediately. I haven't had an issue with this in the past. I am running Ubuntu 11.04. lspci - 08:00.0 Network controller: Atheros Communications Inc. AR928X Wireless Network Adapter (PCI-Express) (rev 01)
[16:40] <_Marcus> Gah, I can't get it into text mode!
[16:41] <_Marcus> I've deleted the grub default thing(commented it out) and put text into the other one and it STILL goes to GUI
[16:41] <angelete2> my wireless adapter is connected to an access point without internet access, so i reach internet using .0.0 network
[16:41] <Marto> Ubuntu Desktop Edition 8.10 ISO downloads link pls
[16:41] <ikonia> Marto: ubuntu.com
[16:41] <ikonia> Marto: 8.10 is a dead release
[16:41] <Jon--> Oh man am I tired, I just realized I was using intermediately -_-'
[16:41] <Jon--> My wireless is disconnecting intermittently. I haven't had an issue with this in the past. I am running Ubuntu 11.04. lspci - 08:00.0 Network controller: Atheros Communications Inc. AR928X Wireless Network Adapter (PCI-Express) (rev 01)
[16:42] <angelete2> i've connected my ipod to wireless (ip .1.10) and i can ping or tracert .1.12, and have .1.12 as default gateway, but i cannot access internet
[16:42] <angelete2> can anyone help me?
[16:42] <EtgarDizz> Dr_willis1: yes, the system boots fast alright, but I've had a lot of trouble cos I had to have both open&closed java, configuring printer properly, sensors for m/b, apache hosts... lots of stuff unfortunately. I'm pretty sure that backuping my home folder is not gonna be enough
[16:42] <kapz> hi! how can I change the background colour of Nautilus 3.2 in ubuntu 11.10?
[16:42] <ikonia> angelete2: what is doing the internet connection sharing
 pls downloads link
[16:42] <quiescens> _Marcus: you commented out what and put text where?
[16:42] <ikonia> Marto: ubuntu.com
[16:43]  * Lint remembers 8.04 as only ubuntu distro that had 3d video working
[16:43] <ikonia> Marto: you understand the OS 8.10 is dead
[16:43] <angelete2> ikonia: my windows host has the real devices, and i use .0.1 gateway (cable connection)
[16:43] <Trasient> can any one help to display battery meter...
[16:43] <i_is_broke> Marto, dead as no new updates or support.
[16:43] <ikonia> angelete2: what is doing the sharing of the internet ?
[16:43] <kapz> hi! how can I change the background colour of Nautilus 3.2 in ubuntu 11.10? Whit irritates me!
[16:43] <kapz> *white
[16:44] <angelete2> ikonia: i think i don't understand what do you mean
[16:44] <Dr_willis1> Trasient:  the askubuntu.com site had a list of indicator-applets for unity - i recall them having some diffnert battery meters there
[16:44] <Trasient> can any one help to display battery meter...
[16:44] <ikonia> angelete2: what device is connected to the internet ?
[16:44] <_Marcus> quiescens: http://paste.ubuntu.com/834111/
[16:44] <Dr_willis1> Trasient:  or are you saying your battery is not detected at all?
[16:44] <angelete2> my real host, is connected to another router from my ISP
[16:45] <_Marcus> quiescens: I've also tried this: http://paste.ubuntu.com/834114/
[16:45] <ikonia> angelete2: so what's the problem
[16:45] <cryptodira> what is the method for changing permissions via the gui?
[16:45] <quiescens> _Marcus: text, not test
[16:45] <ikonia> cryptodira: right clicking on things
[16:45] <CP3088> i have a question
[16:46] <quiescens> _Marcus: additionally, after changing /etc/default/grub you always have to do sudo update-grub
[16:46] <_Marcus> quiescens: Sorry, I can't copy paste from Virtual Box, it says "text" in Ubuntu but I typed "test" when trying to type what was in the VM
[16:46] <Jon--> ubottu, !ask | CP3088
[16:46] <_Marcus> And yes, I was doing that
[16:46] <Jon--> My wireless is disconnecting intermittently. I haven't had an issue with this in the past. I am running Ubuntu 11.04. lspci - 08:00.0 Network controller: Atheros Communications Inc. AR928X Wireless Network Adapter (PCI-Express) (rev 01)
[16:46] <Lint> well the update process is going to install gnome-games and nautilus
[16:46] <angelete2> ikonia: i want my virtualized linux to use as a router, but my wireless devices cannot reach internet
[16:46] <Lint> i don't want that
[16:47] <ikonia> angelete2: sorry, that makes no sense
[16:47] <ikonia> Lint: it won't if you don't have that installed
[16:47] <ikonia> Lint: it only upgrades whats there
[16:47] <cryptodira> ikona, this would be for changing permissions that root owns.....
[16:47] <angelete2> ikonia: this is an schema http://tinypic.com/?t=postupload
[16:48] <Lint> ikonia, wrong, it has about hundred of new packages to install and 12 packages to delete
[16:48] <kapz> hi! how can I change the background colour of Nautilus 3.2 in ubuntu 11.10? White irritates me!
[16:48] <ikonia> Lint: no, it will only upgrade what you have, there maybe dependencies that bring in more packages, but if you can remove any packages that have dependencies you don't want
[16:48] <Lint> ok I will reform my question
[16:49] <angelete2> ikonia: i want to virtualize an access point in order to make some tests
[16:49] <ikonia> angelete2: that's going to be quite complex
[16:49] <angelete2> i think so :D,
[16:49] <Lint> any way to go to next ubuntu release without installing default packages like unity/gnome3 etc if they are not installed in previous release?
[16:49] <kapz> help please
[16:50] <ikonia> Lint: it won't install anything that's not on your system or doesn't get pulled in by a dependencies
[16:50] <angelete2> ikonia: but do you mean what i want? (i want to know if i explained myself right)
[16:50] <quiescens> _Marcus: what release are you on?
[16:50] <imbezol> Lint: if you like gnome 2 then don't upgrade
[16:50] <_Marcus> quiescens: Ubuntu 11.04
[16:51] <_Marcus> Or, 11.10, idk
[16:51] <_Marcus> Some 11 one
[16:51] <zykotick9> Lint: your issue is with the *-desktop meta packages, they pull in a lot of stuff, and are required in ubuntu for upgrades.  If you install from the mini CD you can install only what you want, but upgrades would still probably be an issue.
[16:51] <_Marcus> Newest one of 11 I'm guessing, just got it yesterday
[16:51] <quiescens> _Marcus: there is a bug in the lightdm which prevents the text option from working properly so you might be able to fix it by updating
[16:51] <_Marcus> quiescens: What ever happened to Gnome Desktop on Ubuntu?
[16:52] <cryptodira> ikonia, got it... gksudo nautilus does what i need.
[16:52] <quiescens> shrugs
[16:53] <Dr_willis1> be carefull with 'gksudo nautilus'
[16:53] <danik> hello ive installed vsftp server when i want to go to config that in /etc/vsftpfd.conf i see the example file anybody knows how i can see the original config file ?
[16:53] <Jon--> My wireless is disconnecting intermittently. I haven't had an issue with this in the past. I am running Ubuntu 11.04. lspci - 08:00.0 Network controller: Atheros Communications Inc. AR928X Wireless Network Adapter (PCI-Express) (rev 01)
[16:53] <Dr_willis1> close out that nautilus window when you are done doing rooty tasks. :)  seen systems get trashed by accident befor
[16:54] <angelete2> ikonia: is it possible to do what i want?
[16:54] <Lint> on unrelated note: is -generic kernel flavour in ubuntu a desktop kernel or not?
[16:54] <ikonia> angelete2: rather complex but yes
[16:54] <ikonia> Lint: used to be
[16:54] <ikonia> not sure if it's still valid
[16:54] <ikonia> probably, yes
[16:54] <ikonia> !info linux-image-generic
[16:55] <ikonia> Lint: yes, it's still valid
[16:55] <angelete2> i've enabled ip forwarding in ubunto, but i think i need to specify some routes, but don't know what
[16:55] <ikonia> angelete2: it's not that simple
[16:55] <ikonia> angelete2: you are going to need bridged networks, routing, ip forwarding, you're going to need something to address your IP allocation,
[16:57] <Jon--> My wireless is disconnecting intermittently. I haven't had an issue with this in the past. I am running Ubuntu 11.04. lspci - 08:00.0 Network controller: Atheros Communications Inc. AR928X Wireless Network Adapter (PCI-Express) (rev 01)
[16:57] <pittstains> I have a question about the $PATH variable... when I echo $PATH, /usr/local/bin is not in the output; however, it *is* in PATH in my /etc/environment file
[16:58] <ikonia> pittstains: /etc/environment is not used
[16:59] <pittstains> ikonia: where is the default $PATH set, then?
[16:59] <Marto> Looking for Linux to run perfectly at 400 mhz 128 ram
[16:59] <zykotick9> pittstains: use ~/.profile to set your PATH
[16:59] <ikonia> pittstains: in your home directory
[17:00] <Marto> Looking for Linux to run perfectly at 400 mhz 128 ram pls
[17:00] <Lint> Marto, intel/ppc?
[17:00] <pittstains> zykotick9, ikonia: I don't want to do that for every user on the system; do you know where the default path is set?
[17:01] <pittstains> it's strange, /usr/local/bin *used* to be in my path, and then i logged in and it wasn't... i'm not sure what changed...
[17:01] <Dr_willis1> Marto:  perhaps tiny core linux, or some puppy linux variant.
[17:01] <Dr_willis1> Marto:  id say check  out puppy first.
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[17:02] <quiescens> well, /etc/environment technically is used, but you could potentially have some .profile or other script changing the path at a later point
[17:03] <Lint> I wouldn't recommend puppy linux as most software will not run on it properly
[17:03] <pittstains> quiescens: yeah, the doc here (https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EnvironmentVariables#System-wide_environment_variables) suggests that /etc/environment indeed *should* be used
[17:03] <quiescens> anything that just sets PATH rather than appending could end up ignoring any other changes you make
[17:03] <ikonia> this is all nothing to do with ubuntu
[17:03] <ikonia> try ##linux for generic linux help
[17:03] <gartral> good afternoon all, I upgraded too 11.10 last night (yea yea.. late too the party..) and all is going well except for one thing: firefox refuses too start. an'd i'm not getting any useful output from the terminal
[17:03] <Dr_willis1> getting anything else running well on a 400mhz machine with 128 ram. will be a bigger issue
[17:04] <Dr_willis1> Lubuntu Might work 'ok' but even then. more ram would definatly help.
[17:04] <zykotick9> pittstains: you could edit /etc/skel/.profile and new users would get you defined PATH
[17:04] <cryptodira> is there a general consensus for a preferred backup/restore program for 10.10 64 bit...... or, perhaps a similar choice for ones to avoid?
[17:05] <Ahoalton> hello
[17:06] <kyron_> ahoy, poping in here as I am looking for someone with in-depth experience with sudoers :D
[17:06] <ikonia> kyron_: just ask the question
[17:06] <kyron_> anyone here familiar with using Defaults:%group env_keep+="ENV1 ENV2 " syntax?
[17:06] <zykotick9> cryptodira: there isn't a "general consensus" for anything in gnu/linux :p  (for example, i don't think backup/restore needs a program, it needs organization and cp/rsync IMO)
[17:07] <kyron_> ikonia: yes yes, I don't ask to ask usually, a minimal intro usually ;)
[17:07]  * Lint wonders who is paying for mirrors hosting worldwide
[17:07] <pittstains> quiescens: any thoughts on where $PATH might be getting overwritten?  there's nothing about it my .bashrc and .profile has this: PATH="$HOME/bin:$PATH" (appending rather than overwriting)
[17:08] <ikonia> kyron_: if used the syntax for a specific root enviornment
[17:08] <kyron_> my problem is that I have an entry such as: Defaults:%group_of_users env_keep+="BINDIR LIBPATH" and sudo complains
[17:08] <gartral> nevermind.. It crashed during the ypgrade and the ./.mozilla/firefox/lastcrash never got deleted
[17:08] <ikonia> kyron_: is this an ubuntu machine ?
[17:08] <kyron_> ikonia: nope
[17:08] <Ahoalton> I am curious as to how to dual-boot windows 7 and ubuntuwhile still maintaining the windows MBR
[17:08] <ikonia> kyron_: ok - so why are you asking in #ubuntu
[17:08] <ikonia> kyron_: this is for Ubuntu support,
[17:08] <kyron_> cause I know you guys _really_ love sudo :P
[17:08] <quiescens> pittstains: maybe /etc/profile
[17:08] <ikonia> kyron_: please don't ask in here
[17:08] <zk_> hello. can someone explain how to edit the xorg.conf file for good usage of an ati radeon 9550 card? here's my xorg.conf http://pastebin.com/k0NHAKAx . Using Ubuntu 10.04
[17:08] <qo_op> what is the comand for listing all HW ?
[17:09] <kyron_> ikonia: aye! suggestions (I don't expect a sudo channel to exist ;)
[17:09] <ikonia> kyron_: I think there is a sudo channel
[17:09] <cryptodira> zykotick9,  cp/rsync it is!   Thank You.
[17:09] <Lint> Ahoalton, I doubt modern grub can do it. I remember in 2001 it was possible
[17:10] <zykotick9> qo_op: perhaps installing lshw would meet your needs?  there isn't a default place to list all hardware.
[17:10] <pittstains> quiescens: /etc/profile does not contain references to PATH, and /etc/profile.d is empty... any other ideas?
[17:10] <ikonia> Ahoalton: you can tell the windows boot loader to boot grub, or you can tell ubuntu to boot the windows boot loader,
[17:10] <quiescens> pittstains: there are quite a few possibilities and i don't know which, depends on your shell if applicable, desktop environment, other thingies
[17:10] <quiescens> pittstains: go to ctrl-alt-f1 and log into the console and check your path there too
[17:10] <kyron_> ikonia: I<ll check it out, cheers!
[17:11] <Ahoalton> how do I tell ubuntu to boot the windows boot loader, most of the time i istall ubuntu it auto over writes the win mbr
[17:11] <bluenemo> can somebody please pastebin me a plain default fresh installation /etc/group? i just used usermod -G (without the --append M)
[17:11] <pittstains> quiescens: no desktop environment, server only -- does that make things simpler?
[17:11] <zykotick9> Ahoalton: using MS's bootloader is going to be a big pain, with NO benefit.
[17:11] <Dr_willis1> Yep. Grub/grub2 is much handier.
[17:12] <quiescens> pittstains: bash profile, bash rc, etc
[17:12] <Dr_willis1> grep the files in /etc/ for mention of PATH  I think its set in differnt places
[17:12] <quiescens> pittstains: pam, sshd
[17:13] <pittstains> quiescens: hadn't thought of those!  checking them out...
[17:13] <flintwingel> ahoalton: during the install, if you go for the custom disk layout you can tell the installer to load onto whichever partition ubuntu is installed on (e.g. /dev/sda2) instead of /dev/sda
[17:14] <Snyperx|work> Hello all.  I am hoping someone can help me or at least provide some information.  Is it possible to setup Ubuntu with 5 monitors?
[17:14] <Snyperx|work> My workstation uses 5 monitors and it would be fantastic to get off of Windows 7 and move to Ubuntu.
[17:14] <Dr_willis1> Snyperx|work:  should be possible. if you got the video cards with the outputs. but ive had issues when using 3+
[17:14] <flintwingel> easybcd will then help you configure the windows boot loader to handle multiple OSs
[17:14] <zykotick9> pittstains: sollowing Dr_willis1's grep suggestion, /etc/login.defs looks interesting
[17:15] <Dr_willis1> Snyperx|work:  my issue was differnt video cards were needing didffernt drivers. with    identical cards. it should be easier.
[17:15] <Snyperx|work> I am using two ATI cars
[17:15] <Snyperx|work> errr.cards
[17:15] <Ahoalton> back, got disconnected
[17:15] <Ahoalton> any ideas zykotick9
[17:15] <Dr_willis1> I try to avoid ati. :)
[17:15] <bluenemo> cant somebody just put his /etc/group on pastebin.com please?
[17:15] <zykotick9> Ahoalton: using MS's bootloader is going to be a big pain, with NO benefit. (it is possible, but i certainly wouldn't know how)
[17:16] <Lint> i cannot find my bootloader, where is it on ubuntu?
[17:16] <Ahoalton> the security features
[17:16] <sedeki> why am i denied to /opt/test ? i am in the same group, and this dir has mod: 775
[17:16] <flintwingel> ahoalton: during the install, if you go for the custom disk layout you can tell the installer to load onto whichever partition ubuntu is installed on (e.g. /dev/sda2) instead of /dev/sda
[17:16] <flintwingel> easybcd will then help you configure the windows boot loader to handle multiple OSs
[17:16] <Ahoalton> whad does that mean sda, sda2
[17:17] <xsl> guys .. if i want to mount /var with noexec what mountpoint does apt-get use that needs exec? /var/run  ?
[17:17] <Lint> i have /boot/grub/menu.lst but it contains some junk
[17:17] <flintwingel> /dev/sda is a reference to the entire first hard disk, /dev/sda2 is the second partition on that disk.
[17:18] <bananenkampf-de> hey, i want to sync files between two folders. i tried rsync, but it only sync in one direction... any idea?
[17:18] <zykotick9> bananenkampf-de: use rsync and swap the source destination... easy
[17:18] <flintwingel> bananenkampf: try unison
[17:19] <bananenkampf-de> zykotick9, i don't understand... sorry - can you explain
[17:19] <bananenkampf-de> flintwingel, isn't uniscon deprecated?
[17:19] <bananenkampf-de> *unison
[17:19] <zykotick9> bananenkampf-de: "rsync ... a b" then "rsync .. b a"
[17:20] <smjms> so I have an encryptfs home directory on another partition
[17:20] <bakarat> i'm trying to make the switch from gnome to kde, but i was wondering, nautilus has an awesome "type" functionality where you can just randomly type a name which is searched locally, does dolphin have something equivalent?
[17:20] <blitz> how do I access my ubuntu machine from windows using vino
[17:20] <smjms> how do I open it if the installation is broken?
[17:20] <smjms> I'm currently using another installation on the same PC
[17:21] <sedeki> anyone? i have: groupadd grp; adduser sedeki grp; chgrp /opt/dir grp; chmod 775 /opt/dir;
[17:21] <flintwingel> bananenkampf-de: don't know... I've been using it for years and still do
[17:21] <sedeki> and $ >/opt/dir/test gives permission denied
[17:21] <Dr_willis1> blitz with any vncviewer program on windows
[17:21] <flintwingel> zykotick9: 2 runs of rsync won't necessarily catch clashes where the same file has changed on both systems
[17:22] <quiescens> sedeki: groups are fiddly and will require a new login to update
[17:22] <sedeki> the owner is root -- does that change anything?
[17:22] <blitz> Dr_willis1, what's a good free one?
[17:22] <zykotick9> flintwingel: that's true, and i've run into that :(
[17:22] <cordoval> I am told "You have to setup a mount point for thumbnails in your web server configuration."
[17:22] <blitz> tightvnc?
[17:22] <Dr_willis1> blitz i dont know of any you pay for. Theres dozens of them out there.
[17:22] <sedeki> thank you
[17:22] <sedeki> quiescens, what do you mean, restart?
[17:22] <cordoval> "You have to setup a mount point for thumbnails in your web server configuration." i have setup an alias on apache2 configuration but i think i need to _mount_ the folder, how to do that?
[17:23] <bananenkampf-de> what does unison do when the files are changed in both folders?
[17:23] <quiescens> sedeki: log out and back in, or restart if you choose to
[17:23] <quiescens> bananenkampf-de: i would expect it asks you which you want to keep
[17:23] <Snyperx|work> Can anyone tell me if Ubunut will eventually support more than 2 monitors?
[17:24] <Snyperx|work> Currently using a Windows 7 5 monitor setup and would like to go to a 5 monitor Ubunut setup.
[17:24] <flintwingel> bananenkampf-de: it will flag a clash and ask you if you want to overwrite one the the other, or leave both alone
[17:24] <zykotick9> Snyperx|work: it does now, and has for a long time (i'm not sure if Unity supports more then 2 monitors)
[17:24] <trism> Snyperx|work: they are working on it: http://design.canonical.com/2012/01/multi-monitor-update-and-greeter-prototype/ (I think a previous blog post showed a test system with 6 monitors)
[17:24] <webPragmatist> http://packages.debian.org/search?keywords=ttf2pt1 << has this been replaced with something else?
[17:25] <sedeki> quiescens, works. thanks a million. is there an alternative way than to logout?
[17:25] <Dr_willis1> i cant even imagine using 5 monitors.. id need a bigger desk
[17:25] <Snyperx|work> My desk is plenty big
[17:25] <bananenkampf-de> flintwingel, okay thank you... is it neccessary to create a profile or can i easily execute something like... "unison folder1 folder2?"
[17:25] <Snyperx|work> ;-)
[17:25] <Dr_willis1> Unity in 11.10 does have issues with multi monitors.. i hear in 12.x its getting much improved
[17:26] <Snyperx|work> I have 3 24" monitors and 2 27" monitors
[17:26] <Dr_willis1> theres always other window managers.
[17:26] <smjms> "Enter the mount passphrase you recorded when you setup the mount--this passphrase is different from your login passphrase." you have to be fucking kidding me
[17:26] <quiescens> sedeki: not really, permissions are inherited from the login process, after that, your processes are running as your user, and the user doesn't have permission to increase/change its privelidges
[17:26] <Tm_T> smjms: language
[17:27] <sedeki> ok
[17:27] <smjms> in some cases it's justified
[17:27] <flintwingel> bananenkampf-de:you will need a profile - if you use the graphical version (unison-gtk) it will walk you through creating a profile. It will help if you have ssh set up between the machines
[17:27] <Ahoalton> zykotick9 is it better to create a blank partition myself and let ubuntu occupy it or is it better to let ubuntu make the partion it will reside in?
[17:27] <zykotick9> Ahoalton: i see no difference
[17:28] <bananenkampf-de> okay flintwingel, i found a nice blog entry about unison... a good entry to the usage of the software. thank you!
[17:28] <iter> I prefer to make my own partitions and mount /tmp noexec
[17:28] <iter> which the installer does not do
[17:28] <Tm_T> smjms: it's not here (and further discussion about our channel policies happens on #ubuntu-ops or in PM)
[17:29] <mufflon> hello all, i want to show in a small square on the desktop a picture from www, which is reloaded once or twice a day. is there someone out there giving me a hint? on lxde
[17:30] <sedeki> mufflon, what do you mean on the desktop? merged into the desktop image?
[17:31] <qo_op> Hey how can i use the "loacte" command in ubunt? i have tryed to run "sudo updatedb  and then locate file.name" but nothing happens
[17:31] <mufflon> sedeki: yes, like a kind of dock/app
[17:31] <mufflon> perhaps
[17:31] <Tm_T> qo_op: if it returns nothing, nothing is found
[17:32] <smjms> Tm_T: do you have a encrypted home directory?
[17:32] <Lint> iter, ?
[17:32] <qo_op> Tm_T, i dosent return nothing even files i know i got
[17:32] <Tm_T> qo_op: interesting
[17:32] <Tm_T> smjms: not currently, but have tested it, why asking?
[17:33] <qo_op> Tm_T, see pm
[17:33] <andrew_au> hi, is pptpd superseded?
[17:33] <quiescens> qo_op: lots of things aren't included, encrypted homes, tmpfs, proc, and so on
[17:33] <iter> Lint: ga
[17:33] <bananenkampf-de> does unison open a network-port?
[17:34] <qo_op> quiescens, see pm it shud locate this
[17:35] <quiescens> mm lunch
[17:35] <smjms> is there no way to recover files from an encrypted home directory? is it that safe?
[17:36] <y2E0> mathematical: no.
[17:36] <smjms> but practically
[17:37] <ikt> anyone seeding the ubuntu iso?
[17:37] <sedeki> how can i remove the menubar from gnome-terminal as default?
[17:37] <mbeierl> smjms, if you don't know the password, then no, there is no way to get to the contents.  And that is on purpose...
[17:37] <Lint> sedeki, via profile options
[17:37] <ikt> ^
[17:38] <andreas83> ikt
[17:38] <smjms> I have my login password but the documentation says it's not the same
[17:38] <andreas83> ikt i thing there are enough ;)
[17:38] <ikt> seeding the iso?
[17:38] <andreas83> of cause..
[17:38] <mbeierl> smjms, when the encryption was set up, it would have asked you for a password.
[17:38] <Lint> ikt, which one iso exactly?
[17:39] <ikt> oh yeah, my problem is that it frequently says Tracker: [Couldn't resolve host name]
[17:39] <ikt> it's only on ubuntu and elementary os, all other torrents seem to be ok
[17:39] <smjms> I don't remember having to type a password twice during the installation
[17:40] <sedeki> Lint, gnome-terminal (gnome3) shows it anyway ..
[17:41] <Lint> there's no recovery agents in linux disc encription? that's a fail
[17:41] <ikt> that doesn't make any sense?
[17:42] <quiescens> usually the actual encryption doesn't use the passwords as typed, the passwords are used to decrypt a key which is what the encryption uses, the point of doing it that was is so that people can change their passwords without having to reencrypt everything
[17:43] <smjms> so can I use my login password to decrypt that key?
[17:43] <andreas83> ikt, which tracker is not reachable ? http://torrent.ubuntu.com:6969/announce ?
[17:43] <quiescens> i guess, if the key is still intact
[17:44] <Lint> ikt, http://torrent.ubuntu.com:6969/announce is up
[17:44] <loganrun> anybody use gtk-vnc
[17:44] <smjms> where do I find it? also that instruction should be put here https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EncryptedPrivateDirectory#Recovering_Your_Data_Manually
[17:45] <somnambulant> I have 2 profiles when I start my terminal.. however when I change to the one I want to use, it changes for that terminal session.. but when I close and open a new one it goes back to the orginal profile... how do I make it stick?
[17:45] <trism> sedeki: I believe this is a bug with gnome-terminal and appmenu conflicting, if you remove the appmenu packages (indicator-appmenu, appmenu-gtk) it should work successfully
[17:46] <sedeki> what does appmenu do otherwise?
[17:46] <ikt> Lint: heh, turns out I had the ipv6 and regular trackers listed but with a blank line in the middle -_-
[17:46] <trism> sedeki: it shows the menu in the panel in unity or gnome fallback if you have indicator-applet
[17:46] <ikt> wow and changing the tracker list just wiped out my ratio
[17:46] <ikt> nice
[17:47] <quiescens> smjms: probably in /home/.ecryptfs/ somewhere, but the file locations have changed a lot so it probably depends on which release, and when the user was created, etc, etc
[17:47] <cordoval> can someone tell me how to simply mount  a folder into another folder?
[17:47] <Dr_willis1> someone was asking about syncing 2 folders.. just saw this posting on webupd8 --> FreeFileSync is a muti-platform folder comparison and synchronization tool
[17:47] <ikt> cordoval: mkdir other_folder sudo mount /dev/sdx /other_folder
[17:48] <Dr_willis1> http://sourceforge.net/projects/freefilesync/   Looks nifty
[17:48] <ratcheer> somnambulant: Do you want two profiles, or just one?
[17:48] <cordoval> ikt: why  /dev/sdx though
[17:48] <subichan> my keyboard types an infinite number of h chars after a window with a form gets the focus
[17:48] <Dr_willis1> cordoval:  mounting a folder dosent really make sence.. you mean mount a device to 2 differnt locations?
[17:48] <subichan> what should I do?
[17:48] <subichan> If i tap the h button once it stops
[17:48] <cordoval> Dr_willis1: ikt: I am told  You have to setup a mount point for thumbnails in your web server configuration.
[17:49] <cordoval> i already did the alias on apache2
[17:49] <cordoval>   Alias /mountpoint  /path/to/thumbnail/folder
[17:49] <cordoval> hwoever not sure how to do the mounting on the filesystem
[17:49] <Dr_willis1> cordoval:  you can mount  whever you want.. mount /dev/sdz1  /pick/some/folder/webstuff/whatever
[17:49] <Dr_willis1> but the whole mount point for thumbnails.. seems  weird.
[17:49] <Lint> dpkg is retarded
[17:50] <Dr_willis1> Unless they are uing the term mount in some other way  then what we are thinking of.
[17:50] <rylcdn> hello everyone
[17:50] <cordoval> Dr_willis1: ikt http://img6.imagebanana.com/img/ji4qrh0y/Selection_178.png
[17:51] <enigma_> hello mate
[17:51] <rylcdn> i am in need of some help as i am a newb.   Trying to install ubuntu on to my mac os x.   fucked around with partitioning earlier, couldnt get it to install.  Ended up just installing it alongside my mac os x.  Almost finished installing at now im getting bootloader install fail
[17:51] <rylcdn> and i dont know what to do
[17:51] <ictixiangixn> 。
[17:52] <rylcdn> keep trying various /dev/sda  but it doesnt like em. just continue without a bootloader?
[17:52] <ikt> rylcdn: i combination of error messages and google
[17:52] <rylcdn> ive googled the ubuntu site for answers
[17:52] <trism> sedeki: this is the bug, although it gets a bit offtopic, and seems to be fixed in 12.04: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/appmenu-gtk/+bug/787465
[17:52] <rylcdn> but nothing is very straightforward, or seemingly working
[17:53] <ikt> rylcdn: what error message is coming up specifically?
[17:53] <somnambulant> ratcheer: really just want the one
[17:53] <rylcdn> Executing 'rub-install/dev/sda' failed  This is a fatal error
[17:54] <rylcdn> unable to install GRUB in /dev/sda
[17:54] <ratcheer> somnambulant: Ok, then write into file .bashrc in your home directory. Save the old one, first, so you don't mess something up that you can't fix.
[17:55] <Nach0z> hey guys, got some questions I need answered...
[17:55] <somnambulant> ratcheer: ok will try thx
[17:55] <rylcdn> it was easy to install on my pc, but my mac is being a fucker
[17:55] <Seryth> !language | rylcdn
[17:55]  * Seryth dances
[17:55] <ikt> rylcdn: http://askubuntu.com/questions/75606/executing-grub-install-dev-sda5-failed-this-is-a-fatal-error
[17:55] <Seryth> I got an oppotunity to use the bot \o/
[17:56] <Nach0z> when I try to start the X server I get this message: http://paste.ubuntu.com/834210/
[17:56] <ikt> just need to find the root partition and tell grub where it is
[17:56] <ratcheer> Seryth: +1.
[17:56] <rylcdn> thanks ikt
[17:56] <Seryth> !yay ratcheer
[17:56] <john_doe_jr> does anyone know how to use arecord to record sound from an alsa device?
[17:56] <Seryth> .__.
[17:56] <Seryth> dammit.
[17:56] <y2E0> if my family would be knocking around in a linux channel I would be worried bout their mental health
[17:56] <ikt> :)
[17:56] <y2E0> and less care bout the language :)
[17:56] <vlyalcin> how does ubuntu save user profil image informations?
[17:57] <ikt> y2E0: this isn't linux, this is spar... ubuntu
[17:57] <Seryth> Hey all. I'm tryint to install Midori browser, but I get this error:  midori : Depends: libjavascriptcoregtk-1.0-0 (>= 1.5.1) but it is not installable E: Unable to correct problems, you have held broken packages. How can I get round this?
[17:57] <Dr_willis1> vlyalcin:  you mean the image shown at the login screen?
[17:57] <fabio_> hi
[17:57] <wojtek> hi
[17:57] <fabio_> does anyone have experience with zend framework?
[17:57] <Lint> Seryth, try update cache
[17:58] <ikt> Seryth: synaptic > edit > fix broken packages
[17:58] <vlyalcin> yes De_willis1
[17:58] <ikt> i'm sure there's a dpkg command for it
[17:58] <zykotick9> Seryth: i'd start with "sudo apt-get -f install" myself
[17:58] <Dr_willis1> vlyalcin:  i recall it being some .somthing file  in your home.
[17:58] <Seryth> Lint, ikt Thanks :)
[17:58] <Seryth> zykotick9: Okay, what does that do?
[17:58] <fabio_> im acessing my project public but gives all blank
[17:58] <fabio_> *bank page
[17:58] <vlyalcin> Dr_willis1: ok let me check
[17:58] <zykotick9> Seryth: general fix, for broken packages basically
[17:59] <Dr_willis1> vlyalcin:  have the gnome file manager show hidden files. you should see a thumbnail of it.
[17:59] <Seryth> zykotick9: It didn't do anything, 0 upgrades, 0 removed, etc
[17:59] <Ahoalton> how come when  Itry to download the 64 bit version it says AMD, I want intel 64 bit
[17:59] <dleonardi> y2E0: lets put it this way. when ppl approach me and are like "i want to learn linux" i usually respond "then you must learn how to articulate cursewords properly". cursing + linux = symbiosis IMO
[17:59] <Lint> Seryth, had you tried
[17:59] <zykotick9> Seryth: then i question the "you have held broken packages" error output?
[17:59] <Lint> 'apt-get update'?
[17:59] <Nach0z> Ahoalton: :| amd64 is just the general 64-bit package. it works on Intel 64-bit processors.
[17:59] <Seryth> Lint: Yes, I always do "sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install program"
[17:59] <Ahoalton> yo Nach0z i haven't seen you in a while
[18:00] <y2E0> dleonardi: I like your attitude :) same way I handle errors in my programs: freaking and and insulting the user and/or his family. :)
[18:00] <Ahoalton> so Nach0z if my system is 64 bit, there is no reason I should not get it, right?
[18:00] <Nach0z> correcto.
[18:00] <dleonardi> you forgot his ancestors :)
[18:00] <Lint> !ot
[18:01] <dleonardi> Lint: are you feeding the trolls with bot messages?
[18:02] <dleonardi> anyhow </ot>
[18:02] <Seryth> http://mang0.zapto.org/Terminal%20-%20seryth@ubuntujacob:%20~_001.png zykotick9 That's the error I'm seeing.
[18:03] <McSalty> does anyone has a fully working sandy bridge i7 (with hybrid graphics, onboard graphics+dedicated)? i'm also having problem with the power consumption. my dedicated graphics card is an nvidia 550m
[18:03] <Seryth> Lint: -------^
[18:03] <Seryth> ikt: Your fix didn't work :/
[18:04] <ikt> aww
[18:04] <loganrun> I am trying to find a better vnc client, gtkvncviewer kind of stucks, doesn't have screen scaleing and doesn't work very well connecting to mac
[18:04] <nyc-h0st_> hi all, i have kerberos set-up on ubuntu 11.10, i have added a user but when i try to kinit using that user, or any user for that matter i get client not found in kerberos database, any ideas?
[18:04] <Lint> it that mint?
[18:04] <ictixiangixn> 。
[18:04] <loganrun> tried vinagre but seems like it only supports a very short password or something no clue
[18:05] <loganrun> very odd program
[18:05] <ictixiangixn> lol
[18:05] <ikt> Seryth: what happens when you do fix broken packages?
[18:05] <loganrun> seems like there is virtually no other option for Ubuntu
[18:05] <zykotick9> Seryth: what is output of "apt-cache policy midori"
[18:06] <Seryth> http://paste.ubuntu.com/834227/ zykotick9
[18:06] <Seryth> ikt: It says it's fixed them succesfully
[18:06] <zykotick9> Seryth: you're using a PPA, i can't help
[18:06] <loganrun> besides there there isn't even a manual for gtkvnc, go figure
[18:06] <Seryth> zykotick9: Lemme remove the PPA and try again
[18:07] <ikt> loganrun: yeah vnc in ubuntu been kinda buggered for a while
[18:07] <ikt> was looking into logmeinrescue and other remote desktop stuff
[18:07] <Seryth> ikt: SSH and Screen?
[18:07] <ThinkT510> loganrun: teamviewer is pretty good
[18:07] <Dr_willis1> teamviewer works well here also. but it deopends on your needs.
[18:08] <ikt> yeah teamviewer is good
[18:08] <Seryth> ThinkT510, loganrun: Yes, TeamViewer, is good, but only it uses a fair amount of bandwidth.
[18:08] <ikt> Seryth: yeah ssh is my remote desktop of choice
[18:08] <Dr_willis1> I  tend to just need to ssh in and run a vnserver. I dont need the 'current visible desktop'
[18:08] <loganrun> ThinkT510, do you have to add a special repository for that, it doesn't come up on the software center
[18:08] <MonkeyDust> guys & dolls, i'm unable to connect to freenode port 6667 using the irssi client - hints & tips or the right channel pls?
[18:09] <webPragmatist> http://old-releases.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/universe/t/ttf2pt1/ << this doesn't seem to be a package in apt
[18:09] <webPragmatist> is there a reason why/
[18:09] <ThinkT510> loganrun: i don'trun it in ubuntu, you'll likely need to get it from their website
[18:09] <loganrun> ThinkT510, is if open source?
[18:09] <ikt> MonkeyDust: any errors?
[18:09] <ThinkT510> loganrun: no
[18:09] <ikt> i'm using irssi and yeah connected to freenode via 6667
[18:09] <ThinkT510> loganrun:i wish it was
[18:10] <MonkeyDust> ikt: no, but my thunderbird mail client wont connect, either
[18:10] <vlyalcin> Dr_willis1: also possible to see with "ls -a" ?
[18:11] <ikt> Seryth: Seen this? http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2011/12/midori-gets-faster-startup-gtk3-improvements-in-lastest-release/
[18:11] <ikt> you've got both midori and webkit ppa's added?
[18:11] <Dr_willis1> vlyalcin:  see what?
[18:11] <vlyalcin> hidden files
[18:11] <Dr_willis1> vlyalcin:  thats what -a does :)
[18:11] <ckiewiet> hi, I just installed kubuntu and all the fonts are huge
[18:12] <ckiewiet> what do?
[18:12] <Seryth> ikt: Lemme double check webkit
[18:12] <vlyalcin> Dr_willis1: can you gime some more tips about where it can be exactly?
[18:12] <vlyalcin> Dr_willis1: *give
[18:12] <Dr_willis1> vlyalcin:  refresh the channels memory with what we are doing again....
[18:12]  * Dr_willis1 barely rembers his own name today
[18:14]  * Lint wonders if #kubuntu channel will close after its  discontinuement
[18:14] <Dr_willis1> Kubuntu is not being discontined
[18:14] <Seryth> ikonia: Yay! it's working :)
[18:14] <Seryth> oops
[18:14] <DeadManu007> hallo buntu
[18:14] <Seryth> ikt: Yay, it's working!
[18:14] <vlyalcin> Dr_willis1 actually I am looking for where gnome keeps information about which user profile at where
[18:14] <ikt> :D gj!
[18:15] <ro_70s> How do I set up my system to show vietnamese properly?
[18:15] <Seryth> :)
[18:15] <ro_70s> For example Thế Nghĩa the e's diacritics are there but they are not aligned properly
[18:15] <Dr_willis1> vlyalcin:  i was thinking it was  a png image file in the home dir. but i dont have a ubuntu box handy to check.  the exact name.
[18:16] <Dr_willis1> use the settings to change your image, then look perhaps?
[18:16] <Dr_willis1> but thats just the image. :)
[18:16] <ro_70s> Google chrome does get the settings right
[18:16] <Lint> ro_70s, there could be an 'additional fonts' checkbox in 'language support' panel applet
[18:16] <DeadManu007> have i small problems any one nows about  ios 5 ipad 2 sync music ?
[18:17] <ro_70s> Lint what applet? Im sorry, Im not sure what that is
[18:17] <Lint> ro_70s, somewhere in system settings
[18:18] <Dr_willis1> Night all....
[18:18] <ro_70s> Lint: that says for menus and windows but it is greyed out .. wouldn't I also need to set the general font somewhere?
[18:18] <ro_70s> Lint thanks, btw
[18:19] <Lint> ro_70s, there must be 'add/remove languages' button
[18:19] <azriel> im trying to run a java class file on my computer with java (filename) but its saying the class isnt found
[18:19] <ro_70s> Lint: install/remove languages -- yes but it is greyed out.. probably because I dont have rights to install packages here
[18:19] <freshnick> hey everyone
[18:19] <coder2> azriel: try saving file name by class name itself,for a small code
[18:20] <ro_70s> Lint: Im not trying to change the whole system to give me vietnamese menus .. I just want a font that works :)
[18:20] <freshnick> im running a red alert 2 yuri with WINE , and im trying to play on LAN using hamachi with my brother and we both have joined the hamachi VPN server and we trying to play and we cant
[18:21] <ro_70s> I dont think I should have to install anything, since chrome does it the fonts must alreeady be on the system
[18:21] <meerkats> i dont have sound, sound is gone after trying to enable em for kega fusion. my lspci -v | grep -A7 -i "audio"
[18:21] <meerkats>  shows a missing line: Kernel driver in use: HDA Intel
[18:21] <meerkats> where do I activate sound drivers?
[18:21] <ThinkT510> !appdb | freshnick
[18:22] <freshnick> ThinkT510: the game works fine and i was able to play on hamachi with my friend over the internet , but with my brother it just doesnt work
[18:23] <craigbass1976> I just set up a dhcp server, but can't figure out where it's logging.  Anyone know off the top of their head?
[18:23] <ThinkT510> freshnick: #winehq
[18:23] <Zsol> craigbass1976, need more details
[18:23] <Zsol> check /var/log/syslog
[18:24] <ro_70s> craigbass1976: var/log/syslog
[18:24] <craigbass1976> Aha.  THanks
[18:25] <craigbass1976> Zsol, ro_70s You both are entitled to give me One Free Dopeslap if ever we meet
[18:26] <Zsol> you're on
[18:29] <john_doe_jr> I'm using ubuntu...any ideas how I can capture audio?
[18:29] <meerkats> my machine doesnt detect any sound software, yesterday it played sounds, what is goin on?
[18:30] <audin17_> anyone know a good tutorial to configure bridge networking on ubuntu 11.10 running kvm
[18:30] <crizzy_> audin17_: help.ubuntu.com > server documentation
[18:31] <audin17_> ok thanks, I'll check it out
[18:32] <john_doe_jr> does anyone know how to determine what sound card is playing sound?  I'm in ubuntu using vmware?
[18:32] <trism> DeadManu007: if you go into nautilus and try to mount the device and get an error, may be: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/libplist/+bug/877440 (the workaround is to install libimobiledevice-utils and: idevicepair unpair && idevicepair pair;)
[18:33] <kakabesola> cc!
[18:34] <no_gravity> Help! Help! Ubuntu killed my Debian installation. I have a debian base installation at sda7 that i use as /boot for an encrypted debian installation at in an lvm in sda8. Today i booted into my ubuntu partition and it updated grub. Now when I boot into sda7, i dont get asked for the password for sda8 anymore. Instead the debian base system at sda7 is booted. What can I do to get back my main debian installation?
[18:35] <john_doe_jr> anybody?
[18:35] <FloodBot1> !netsplit
[18:36] <SJr> Ubuntu 11.10, I can't seem to get my second monitor to work. It's an nvidia card
[18:36] <SJr> I just get Unable to load X Server Display Configuration page: Failed to query NoScanout for screen 0
[18:36] <audin17_> sir - had same issue at home, had to set it up using unity 2d
[18:36] <trism> john_doe_jr: pavucontrol has quite a bit of information about where sound is coming from and going
[18:36] <SJr> lame
[18:37] <damo22> no_gravity: is sda8 /home for the debian?
[18:37] <john_doe_jr> trism, thanks...I'll take a look
[18:37] <no_gravity> damo22: sda8 is / for debian
[18:37] <nytfox> I forgot the name of that side bar thing which shows machine temp , infomration . internet up and down , those stuff
[18:38] <SJr> bye bye unity
[18:38] <lekremyelsew> nytfox, "conky" might be what your lookng for
[18:38] <damo22> no_gravity: you need to edit grub and tell it to mount sda8 as root with an encrypted fs
[18:38] <nytfox> lekremyelsew: yes thats it :) thaNKS
[18:38] <no_gravity> damo22: grub can mount encrypted partitions?
[18:38] <cabi> hi there
[18:38] <damo22> no_gravity: sounds like a pain in the ass to have encrypted volumes
[18:39] <merk5> Anybody here familiar with Webistrano?
[18:39] <no_gravity> damo22: it was fine until i booted into ubuntu. looks like it changed the grub settings.
[18:39] <damo22> no_gravity: is /dev/sda7 /boot for debian?
[18:39] <SJr> How do I restart the login manager now
[18:39] <merk5> Anybody here familiar with Webistrano?
[18:39] <SJr> it's no longer gdm
[18:39] <no_gravity> damo22: yes
[18:39] <john_doe_jr> trism, it says "alsa plug-in [chrome]: ALSA Playback....what does that mean?
[18:39] <no_gravity> damo22: for the encrypted debian.
[18:40] <john_doe_jr> trism, how can I record sounds from the alsa plug-in [chrome]?
[18:40] <ThinkT510> SJr: in 11.10 it is lightdm
[18:40] <damo22> no_gravity: then likely grub cant mount encrypted fs, it requires the unencrypted boot volume to mount it
[18:40] <_monk_> encrypted volumes is a security feature
[18:40] <_monk_> no pain there
[18:41] <no_gravity> damo22: yes. it uses the unencrypted boot volume. but now, that one doesnt unencrypt the encrypted volume anymore. it just boots into its own little debian base system.
[18:41] <damo22> _monk_: it would be  painful if you lose the password or the ability to mount it
[18:41] <svm_invictvs> Heya
[18:41] <syslq> c
[18:41] <_monk_> well, who does that?
[18:41] <svm_invictvs> I know this may sound like a strange problem, but I was curious what could be going on with this thing.
[18:42] <svm_invictvs> Occasionally, my X session will become unresponsive.
[18:42] <merk5> Hello! Anybody here familiar with Webistrano?
[18:42] <damo22> _monk_: what if you lose your /boot partition that knows how to mount your particular encryption algorithm and you dont remember the encryption alg
[18:42] <Lint> dpkg is so damned slow, why we have that piece of garbage in 2012?
[18:43] <svm_invictvs> I can move the mouse, and it will animate mouseovers.  CLicking doesn't work at all, keyboard input kind of works but I can't switch windows or raise anything over the existing window.  It's like a window manager process is crashing somewhere.
[18:43] <m1chael> im thinking about installing ubuntu 10.04 LTS lucid lynx for my new server OS.. what would it take to install postfix with postgresql support?
[18:43] <trism> john_doe_jr: chrome is using the pulseaudio alsa plugin for sounds, for recording it, I don't know, sorry, but maybe something like this: http://askubuntu.com/questions/60837/record-a-programs-output-with-pulseaudio
[18:45] <damo22> no_gravity: i bet your new grub points to /dev/sda7 as /
[18:45] <no_gravity> damo22: yes, probably.
[18:45] <Stelpa> hullo
[18:46] <Stelpa> i just recently got a good external hard drive, and i just plugged it in, and it isn't showing up; do i have to mount it or something?
[18:46] <no_gravity> damo22: where can i tell grub "sda7 is /boot and / is in an encrypted partition in the lvm in sda8"?
[18:46] <Stelpa> i looked in the "system profile", and it says it is there
[18:46] <Stelpa> however, when i go to "my computer", it isn't present
[18:46] <damo22> no_gravity: when you do sudo fdisk -l what comes up?
[18:46] <lekremyelsew> no_gravity, /etc/fstab
[18:47] <ThinkT510> Stelpa: check /media/
[18:48] <no_gravity> lekremyelsew: what do you mean?
[18:48] <damo22> no_gravity: i mean, youre currently using the tiny /boot as / right? so if you can mount /dev/sda8 on a mountpoint you might be able to reconfigure grub
[18:48] <no_gravity> damo22: my partitions
[18:48] <Stelpa> ThinkT510: nothing is there
[18:48] <Stelpa> :\
[18:48] <damo22> no_gravity: what is the type of /dev/sda8
[18:48] <lekremyelsew> no_gravity, sorry, that was rather unclear, that file has all the associations for partitions and mount points
[18:49] <no_gravity> damo22: sda8 is an lvm. it contains several encrypted partitions.
[18:49] <ThinkT510> Stelpa: what is on the drive?
[18:49] <RyuGuns> I'm making an OS myself, do you guys think I can get into any trouble for using the ubuntu startup sound from 6.06
[18:49] <RyuGuns> ?
[18:49] <Stelpa> ThinkT510: nothing, i just got it
[18:49] <no_gravity> lekremyelsew: you mean i can tell it that / is on an encrypted lvm?
[18:49] <damo22> no_gravity: cat /etc/fstab |grep sda8
[18:49] <ThinkT510> Stelpa: so it isn't formatted, launch gparted
[18:49] <bobweaver> Hello there something is wrong with my ubuntu server. I went to bed last night and awoke to no mysql : start: Job failed to start  :  Do I have to re-install mysql ? when I try to connect via: mysql -u username -p :   I get this error :ERROR 2002 (HY000): Can't connect to local MySQL server through socket '/var/run/mysqld/mysqld.sock' (2):     any idea of what might be going on ?
[18:49] <LukeNukem> hey how to remove transmission torrent client
[18:49] <LukeNukem> whats the pkg name
[18:50] <no_gravity> damo22: then it shows me sda8. what do you want to know?
[18:50] <Stelpa> ThinkT510: okey, now what? :o
[18:50] <BlauskaerM> bobweaver: Is the server running?
[18:50] <Huggabugga> So quick question, not related to ubuntu but, what does +R mean when i try to enter a channel ? :S
[18:50] <damo22> can you tell me the whole line or does it contain secrets?
[18:50] <bobweaver> BlauskaerM: yep
[18:50] <Pici> !modes | Huggabugga
[18:50] <bobweaver> I am ssh'd in right now
[18:50] <ThinkT510> Stelpa: up to you, what do you want to do with it?
[18:51] <bobweaver> BlauskaerM: everything is rinning great but mysql
[18:51] <Pici> Huggabugga: check out #freenode for more help
[18:51] <damo22> no_gravity: ^
[18:51] <bobweaver> running *
[18:51] <BlauskaerM> bobweaver: Can you locate the error-logfile for mysql and post it in pastebin?
[18:51] <bobweaver> that is under var ? BlauskaerM
[18:51] <BlauskaerM> bobweaver: No, is the mysql server running on your system?
[18:51] <Stelpa> ThinkT510: i want to use it for storage of music and such...
[18:51] <no_gravity> damo22: it contains the start sector, the end sector, the nr of blocks, the format (83 linux).
[18:51] <Stelpa> ThinkT510: how would i do that?
[18:51] <Huggabugga> thanks pici
[18:51] <BlauskaerM> bobweaver: Yes, but check first if the server is running
[18:51] <damo22> no_gravity: cat /etc/fstab |grep sda8
[18:51] <ThinkT510> Stelpa: do you want windows to be able to access it?
[18:52] <damo22> not fdisk
[18:52] <no_gravity> damo22: why would the info help you?
[18:52] <Stelpa> ThinkT510: windows? 0_o
[18:52] <bobweaver> BlauskaerM:  no the service is not running and I can not get it to start
[18:52] <n3uron> i have a strange error where i lose all the indicator applets and system freezes... i dont even know where to start
[18:52] <damo22> no_gravity: it might tell me how to mount your sda8 from here
[18:52] <Stelpa> it would be nice, but its not needed really
[18:52] <Stelpa> would it take much effort?
[18:52] <no_gravity> damo22: im booted into ubuntu right now. it doesnt know anything about sda8.
[18:52] <BlauskaerM> bobweaver: kk, then paste the errorlog
[18:52] <lekremyelsew> no_gravity, you should make sure that fstab knows what device is going to be / but i think for getting the decryption thing to run before during boot you'll have to look at grub settings (/boot/grub/grub.cfg)
[18:52] <ThinkT510> Stelpa: if you do then ntfs is likely what you want to format it in
 midori: /build/buildd/cairo-1.10.2/src/cairo-surface.c:1287: cairo_surface_set_device_offset: Assertion `status == CAIRO_STATUS_SUCCESS' failed. Aborted             I'm getting this error with a load of browsers - Chrome, Chromium, Midori, loads are doing it. What can I do to get round this? 11.10 with xfce.
[18:53] <Stelpa> ThinkT510: i see
[18:53] <ubuntu> fuck off
[18:53] <pangolin> !language | ubuntu
[18:53] <ThinkT510> ubuntu: grow up
[18:54] <ubuntu> FUCK
[18:54] <Stelpa> ThinkT510: what kind of "partition table" should i use?
[18:54] <damo22> no_gravity:  sudo mkdir -p /mnt/sda7 && sudo mount /dev/sda7 /mnt/sda7 && sudo cat /mnt/sda7/fstab | grep sda8
[18:54] <ThinkT510> Stelpa: msdos
[18:54] <BlauskaerM> bobweaver: It should be under /var/log/mysql/error.log
[18:54] <john_doe_jr> trism, after entering in list-sink-inputs I only see 1 sink input with an index of 2 <ALSA plug-in [chrome]...does pulse code provide some recording options...I don't see any in the help
[18:54] <Stelpa> ThinkT510: okey, that was the default, wasn't sure :S
[18:54] <no_gravity> lekremyelsew: ok, im looking into sda7/grub/grub.cfg
[18:54] <bobweaver> BlauskaerM:  you want the whole thing or tail ?
[18:54] <ThinkT510> Stelpa: yes, it usually is default
[18:54] <zeozan> Hello :D
[18:54] <damo22> no_gravity: look in sda7/etc/fstab
[18:54] <BlauskaerM> bobweaver: Paste all of it in pastebin :)
[18:55] <zeozan> is there website show the news for ubuntu ?
[18:55] <trism> john_doe_jr: sorry I do not really know, that link just sounded similar to what you asked, I haven't tested it
[18:55] <delinquentme> so while im skyping people have issues hearing me talk ... is there any way to up the gain or input volume on my microphone?
[18:55] <no_gravity> lekremyelsew: it doesnt say anything about sda8. it seems to refer to the partitions by uids.
[18:55] <Stelpa> ThinkT510: primary or extended partition?
[18:55] <Stelpa> ThinkT510: btw, thank you for the help so far ^_^
[18:55] <damo22> no_gravity: can you find the line that looks like mounting an encrypted fs
[18:56] <zeozan> is there website show the news for ubuntu ?
[18:56] <ThinkT510> Stelpa: how many partitions are you planning on having on the external drive? (no worries :))
[18:56] <no_gravity> damo22: im not sure sda7/etc/fstab is really involved when sda7 is only used as /boot.
[18:56] <lekremyelsew> no_gravity, "sudo blkid" should tell you which UUIDs correspond to each device
[18:56] <damo22> no_gravity: youre right
[18:56] <no_gravity> damo22: no, doesnt look like there is anything related to encryption there.
[18:56] <bobweaver> BlauskaerM: http://paste.ubuntu.com/834306/
[18:56] <zeozan> is there website show the news for ubuntu ?
[18:57] <pangolin> zeozan: ubuntu-news.org - planet.ubuntu.com and many many others
[18:57] <damo22> no_gravity: did you install a second physical hdd?
[18:57] <enigma_> maybe anybody know where i can find information about linux kernel install in emty pc>?
[18:57] <enigma_> like information from a to z
[18:57] <lekremyelsew> zeozan, www.omgubuntu.co.uk its not official but its a great news source
[18:57] <no_gravity> lekremyelsew: ok, got the uid for sda8. its neither referenced in sda7/grub/grub.cfg nore in sda7/etc/fstab
[18:57] <hatchetjack> how would you guys recommend one go about adding gnome-shell extensions?
[18:57] <no_gravity> damo22: no
[18:58] <Stelpa> ThinkT510: one; i am not going to use it as a main hd, only backup and storage :-)
[18:58] <Stelpa> so one partition then?
[18:58] <fabio_> hi, sorry to ask this here but anyone here have experience in zend framework?
[18:58] <zeozan> lekremyelsew: i want website shows news day by day  hour by hour
[18:58] <ThinkT510> Stelpa: yes, one primary would do the trick fine
[18:58] <Raymond_> i converted komozer to a .deb file using alien, how do i open kompozer their are no icons
[18:58] <damo22> no_gravity: ok, it appears that your /sda7 is doing all the work
[18:59] <Stelpa> ThinkT510: thank you very much :D
[18:59] <BlauskaerM> bobweaver: Can really see anything strange :S
[18:59] <no_gravity> damo22: depends on what you mean with "all the work"
[18:59] <ThinkT510> Stelpa: you're welcome, have fun
[18:59] <negimaki> hi, is there a particular WebDAV client you folks can recommend?
[18:59] <damo22> no_gravity: all the work of mounting your /sda8
[18:59] <lekremyelsew> no_gravity, hmm, i think the service you need is provided by a daemon but i don't know where to configure those in debian/ubuntu
[19:00] <vindav> My Firefox 10 crashes quite often when using Ubuntu 10.04 LTS.  Is there something that allevate this ?
[19:00] <damo22> no_gravity: can we try mounting /dev/sda8 in your ubuntu
[19:00] <zykotick9> zeozan: planet.ubuntu.com ?
[19:00] <damo22> no_gravity: it might turn up some clues
[19:00] <no_gravity> damo22: mounting an lvm? hmm... i dont know how to do that.
[19:00] <bobweaver> BlauskaerM:  IKR it is crazy I try to run either /etc/.init.d/mysql start   or   service mysql start and I will not start
[19:01] <zeozan> ok thank you zykotick9
[19:01] <Stelpa> ThinkT510: one last question; may i name my hard drive whatever i please? (in the "my computer" menu?)
[19:01] <zykotick9> Raymond_: using alien is "generally" not the greatest idea
[19:01] <damo22> no_gravity: ohhh , um not sure either
[19:01] <BlauskaerM> bobweaver: and that messange do you get when you try to start the mysqlserver?
[19:01] <no_gravity> damo22: i will google for a while.,
[19:02] <bobweaver> BlauskaerM:  no just as I typed up a couple of lines
[19:02] <ThinkT510> Stelpa: not familiar with the my computer menu thing, but you can use gparted to give the partition a label, that would likely be it's name when you plug it in then
[19:02] <bobweaver> BlauskaerM:  sudo /etc/init.d/mysqlserver start ?
[19:02] <lekremyelsew> no_gravity, found something :) the service for mounting lvm volumes is found in the initramfs
[19:02] <damo22> no_gravity: try grep -r <uuid of sda8> sda7/grub
[19:03] <Stelpa> ThinkT510: thanks!!!
[19:03] <lekremyelsew> no_gravity, initrd i should say
[19:03] <BlauskaerM> bobweaver: No I think it is sudo /etc/init.d/mysql start
[19:03] <Stelpa> byebye now! ( ^_^)／
[19:03] <bobweaver> BlauskaerM:  start: Job failed to start
[19:03] <damo22> no_gravity: do a thorough search of the whole grub directory for your uuid
[19:04] <no_gravity> damo22: dont you think ubuntu whiped all traces of it?
[19:04] <damo22> no_gravity: in sda7/grub
[19:04] <bobweaver> BlauskaerM:  same with  sudo service mysql start     I get error start: Job failed to start
[19:04] <no_gravity> damo22: no results
[19:05] <damo22> shit, it must be in the initrd like he said
[19:05] <BlauskaerM> bobweaver: hmmm
[19:05] <damo22> no_gravity: there must be a magic string to add to sda7 kernel to make it recognise the encrypted fs
[19:06] <damo22> kernel commandline
[19:06] <no_gravity> damo22: recognise AND use it.
[19:06] <bobweaver> BlauskaerM:  found a error:   Fatal error in defaults handling. Program aborted ERROR 2002 (HY000): Can't connect to local MySQL server through socket '/var/run/mysqld/mysqld.sock' (2)
[19:06] <damo22> no_gravity: yes
[19:06] <no_gravity> damo22: i wonder why ubuntu fucked around with sda7. it has no business there.
[19:06] <damo22> no_gravity: it didnt
[19:06] <BlauskaerM> bobweaver: can you post me the file /var/log/mysql.err ?
[19:07] <damo22> no_gravity: it just wiped grub from MBR
[19:07] <no_gravity> damo22: then why doesnt booting sda7 works like before?
[19:07] <damo22> no_gravity: because the boot strings dont match the mbr
[19:08] <bobweaver> BlauskaerM:  there is nothing in that file
[19:08] <no_gravity> damo22: what does that mean?
[19:08] <damo22> no_gravity: something is mismatched between the two grubs
[19:08] <no_gravity> damo22: two grubs in mbr and sda7?
[19:08] <BlauskaerM> bobweaver: And nothing in /var/log/mysql.log ?
[19:08] <damo22> no_gravity: there is only one grub in mbr
[19:09] <bobweaver> BlauskaerM:  you got it
[19:09] <bobweaver> nothing in there either BlauskaerM
[19:09] <quick-> How do i see the source code of the linux system after i have enables it in the ubuntu uodate settings ?
[19:09] <damo22> no_gravity: ubuntu took over the mbr
[19:09] <quick-> How do i see the source code of the linux system after i have enabled it in the ubuntu update settings ?
[19:09] <bobweaver> BlauskaerM: It is like fit can not connect to its-self like there is a bad password or something
[19:10] <lekremyelsew> no_gravity, the problem is that you need to mount an encrypted lvm volume to / right?
[19:10] <Pici> quick-: use apt-get source.  See http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/apt-howto/ch-sourcehandling.en.html
[19:10] <no_gravity> lekremyelsew: during boot time, yes.
[19:10] <BlauskaerM> bobweaver: You dont have any files in /var/log/ with the name mysql.log.X.gz whare X=1..... ?
[19:11] <BlauskaerM> where*
[19:11] <lekremyelsew> no_gravity, ok your going to have to recreate your initrd.img if you want to do that
[19:11] <bobweaver> BlauskaerM:  yes there are a bunh
[19:11] <lekremyelsew> no_gravity, the problem is that you need to mount an encrypted lvm volume to / right?
[19:11] <bobweaver> \bunch *
[19:11] <lekremyelsew> no_gravity, oops duplicate
[19:11] <geoff> Is this a good room to ask for help configuring my java environment (I fucked something up)?
[19:11] <no_gravity> lekremyelsew: my initrd.img on what partition?
[19:11] <bobweaver> BlauskaerM:  there are 7
[19:11] <Pici> !language
[19:12] <BlauskaerM> bobweaver: Try to look inside mysql.log.1.gz that should be the newest one
[19:12] <no_gravity> is there a way to completely wipe all existing grubs on my hd and start from scratch?
[19:12] <lekremyelsew> no_gravity, its usually on /boot if you have it on a separate partition or / if its all one
[19:13] <lekremyelsew> no_gravity, /etc/initramfs-tools/modules contains all the modules needed to load during boot time
[19:13] <BlauskaerM> bobweaver: Or compare the dates to the date when the server started to fail
[19:13] <no_gravity> lekremyelsew: /boot is a vague thing. the encrypted debian uses sda7 as /boot. do you mean that /boot?
[19:13] <bobweaver> dang I cant find anything
[19:14] <bobweaver> all just a couple of #'s and that is iut
[19:14] <bobweaver> it *
[19:14] <geoff> Can anyone help me out w/ configuring java? I messed something up trying to install jdk7... I removed everything java related and tried to reinstall just openjdk6 stuff through apt-get.  now the java command is not found.  I tried update-java-alternatives -a and just got a bunch of "error no alternatives found for X" messages.
[19:14] <bobweaver> ohh and a @ symbol
[19:14] <no_gravity> lekremyelsew, damo22: cant i just rerun the debian installer, make the same partitin settings as before and have it repair grub?
[19:15] <bananenkampf-de> anybody know how to mount an virtualbox hard-drive file? (vdi)
[19:15] <no_gravity> s/partitin/partition
[19:15] <BlauskaerM> bobweaver: Then I'm out of ideas.. Sorry =/
[19:15] <damo22> no_gravity: you cant do that if you want to keep your data
[19:15] <bobweaver> BlauskaerM:  thaks so much for helping and tryin you ROCK
[19:15] <bobweaver> BlauskaerM:  I think that I will reinstall mysql and mysql-client
[19:15] <BlauskaerM> bobweaver: Np, I will send you a PM if I come up with something
[19:15] <quick-> Pici:  Thanks :)
[19:16] <two|face> I'm trying to setup Ubuntu 11.10 on a Dell Poweredge 1950 - The network adapter is a Broadcom NetXtreme II BCM5708 -  I have tried DHCP and manual configuration and neither one will work - does anyone know if there is a bug with this adapter? The website says it is supported.
[19:16] <no_gravity> damo22: you think it will insinst on formatting the partitions?
[19:16] <Wargasm> anyone know a program that will run a pdo file extension? I'm not having a lot of luck
[19:16] <BlauskaerM> bobweaver: Try that, just backup your data fist if you have any
[19:16] <lekremyelsew> no_gravity, sorry, I kind of jumped into this one, so you have debian and ubuntu on your hard drive?
[19:16] <damo22> no_gravity: unless you select repair grub or something
[19:16] <bobweaver> BlauskaerM:  I have none I was just getting ready to upload csv files
[19:16] <arthas_> i have a question that someone here might know something  about, im using an nvidia gts 250 on the satanic distro of  ubuntu and i cant get the settings to save, the  /etc/X11/xorg.conf file will not merge or is not being read  properly everytime i reboot, ne ideas?
[19:16] <two|face> I have tried it on two PE 1950's and prior to installing Ubuntu one of them had Windows which was connecting to the network fine, so I know the NIC works
[19:17] <geoff> banankampf-de I use `sudo mount -t vboxsf Geoff ~/Share`
[19:17] <no_gravity> lekremyelsew: i have these OSes on my machine: windows. ubuntu. debian unencrypted. debian encrypted.
[19:18] <no_gravity> damo22: repair grub doesnt sound so bad.
[19:18] <aethelrick> geoff: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java
[19:18] <k_89> anyone knows why this happens http://imgur.com/M1Zxi,Z6ihM (checkout both images)
[19:18] <bobweaver> BlauskaerM:  I just typed in sudo apt-get --purge remove mysql-client    and guess what iut is not installed
[19:18]  * bobweaver does a palm-face 
[19:19] <damo22> no_gravity: do you know the name of your partition sda8
[19:19] <no_gravity> damo22: define "name"
[19:19] <meerkats> if I install oss for linux 2.6, havin 3.0.0.15 as my default, will I break something?
[19:19] <BlauskaerM> bobweaver: OMG! =D
[19:19] <meerkats> i need it for kega fusion
[19:19] <damo22> no_gravity: volumegroup-logicalvolume
[19:19] <aethelrick> geoff: not sure how much java you know but there are JRE and JDK parts, make sure you have JRE for running java apps.
[19:19] <lekremyelsew> no_gravity, and when did things go wrong?
[19:19] <meerkats> and for the rest of my sound, my crapotop doesnt have any sound
[19:20] <no_gravity> damo22, lekremyelsew: looks like this guy had a similar issue: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1779567 but im not sure he used an encrypted lvm with multiple partitions.
[19:20] <no_gravity> lekremyelsew: today, when ubuntu updated grub.
[19:20] <no_gravity> damo22: i dont know what that is.
[19:20] <damo22> no_gravity: its something like name-roto
[19:20] <damo22> name-root
[19:20] <aethelrick> arthas_: any messages? Or simple silent failure?
[19:21] <lekremyelsew> no_gravity, oh! so the lvm partition used to work no problem
[19:21] <no_gravity> lekremyelsew: yes. everything worked today in the morning.
[19:21] <vlyalcin> Hii, I am looking for where gnome keeps information about which user profile image at where
[19:21] <damo22> no_gravity: you need to append  lvm=<volumename-logicalvolume> to the kernel boot string
[19:22] <theadmin> vlyalcin: That doesn't make sense, all user data is always stored in /home
[19:22] <theadmin> vlyalcin: Gnome or not, doesn't matter. Or do you mean something else?
[19:22] <no_gravity> lekremyelsew, damo22: i think i will boot from the debian installer and see what it has to offer.
[19:22] <lekremyelsew> no_gravity, then reinstalling grub sounds like the best option
[19:23] <no_gravity> lekremyelsew: how?
[19:23] <Lint> what is modemmanager and how that got into my distro?
[19:23] <lekremyelsew> no_gravity, thats if ubuntu installed a new one in the MBR and didn't just change the one you already had
[19:23] <damo22> no_gravity: do you have a debian installer
[19:23] <no_gravity> damo22: yes. on an usb stick.
[19:23] <vlyalcin> theadmin sorry, Ubuntu I mean. Ubunto 10.10
[19:23] <arthas_> aethelrick i was wondering if anyone had any trouble shooting points for getting the /etc/X11/xorg.conf file to work properly for an nvidia gts 250 card running with the satanic distro
[19:23] <vlyalcin> theadmin for ex. user informations keeping in /etc/passwd
[19:24] <damo22> no_gravity: try booting that and select install bootloader
[19:24] <damo22> no_gravity: or repair
[19:24] <no_gravity> lekremyelsew: it obviously updated it somehow. there are a ton of strange entries in the grub menu. one partition shows up about 20 times. i dont know why. i would like to wipe grub completely and install it fresh. but i dont know how.
[19:26] <damo22> no_gravity: i think i know how to repair it if you can mount the lvm partition in ubuntu though
[19:26] <lekremyelsew> no_gravity, usually when you update kernels the last version's grub entry resides unit you remove it manually or run update-grub. Did you reinstall ubuntu from a CD today or just run an update?
[19:26] <bubu> hi guys, quick question. if you compile a binary from source but need to recompile to change some variables do you need to remove any files?
[19:26] <no_gravity> lekremyelsew: it just did its update thing in gnome.
[19:27] <hayer> Hi, im new to ubuntu server concering HDDs. After a 2nd try at installing I now got a /dev/mapper/serv1-root and /dev/mapper/serv1-swap1. They are on a 400gb hdd and I want to use the hdd as a normal hdd. Aka "mount /media/hdd3 /dev/sdc".
[19:27] <lekremyelsew> no_gravity, i might suggest running update-grub and seeing if that fixes anything but be warned because I dont't know exactly what happends when you do that
[19:27] <hayer> Soo how can I remove the /dev/mapper or reformat it
[19:28] <bubu> gparted hayer
[19:28] <no_gravity> damo22: looks like this guy solved a very similar situation: http://stephentanner.com/index.php/2011/05/restoring-grub-for-an-encrypted-lvm/
[19:28] <bubu> or fdisk -l to list your disks for mount points
[19:28] <zykotick9> lekremyelsew: running update-grub will not remove kernels from the list, you have to uninstall them to do that.
[19:28] <no_gravity> lekremyelsew: i think i will try it from the debian installer
[19:28] <hayer> bubu; tried, didnt help me mutch
[19:28] <hayer> will give gparted a shot tough
[19:28] <bubu> hayer do you now have a/dev/sd or hd etc option?
[19:29] <damo22> no_gravity: since its a chroot solution, you can do it from ubuntu
[19:29] <no_gravity> damo22: yes, i think this guys solution probably works.
[19:29] <hayer> got sda, sdb, but no sdc - got 3 disks
[19:29] <bubu> hmm
[19:29] <hayer> it appears to be /dev/mapper/serv1-root
[19:29] <hayer> gparted for terminal?_?
[19:29] <lekremyelsew> zykotick9, wow you just made me realize I have a bunch of old kernels still installed on my system XD
[19:30] <bubu> and no /dev/sdb1 /dev/sdb2 /dev/sdb3 ?
[19:30] <bubu> yeh
[19:30] <bubu> may need to apt-get
[19:30] <zykotick9> lekremyelsew: FYI from terminal "dpkg -l | grep linux-image" lists them
[19:30] <bubu> anybody help with my q?
[19:30] <hayer> well, got sda and sda1, sdb sdb1 sdb2 sdb5, nothing more
[19:30] <ganimede> hi all. my ubuntu crashes when i press alt-tab. i actually believe it is unity crashing, because somehow conflicts with the desktop cube. any hint on how to solve it? it only happens since the latest updates
[19:31] <two|face> I'm trying to steup Ubuntu 11.10 with a Broadcom NetXtreme II BMC5708 adapter does anyone know why both DHCP and manual configuration do not work for this adapter?
[19:31] <bubu> and whaat are the sizes of the 3 disks? do they match sdb1 sdb5 ?
[19:31] <damo22> two|face: lspci |grep BCM
[19:31] <hayer> nope, they are 750, 500, 450
[19:31] <hayer> 400*
[19:32] <bubu> and that 400gig drive isnt the once your tralking about?
[19:32] <zykotick9> hayer: if you only see sda and sdb then ubuntu, is only aware of 2 disks.  Verify in BIOS that the system sees 3 disks perhaps?  good luck.
[19:32] <lekremyelsew> zykotick9, thanks i always thought that the package system automatically removed the old one when you update, but that would be dangerous because new images don't always work. The more you know haha
[19:32] <trond-> I have an old dell d620 with a broken battery (which is ok since it'll be used by my 6 year old daughter for fun). Now: I am experiencing that the pc suddenly goes out of unity and logs back in again. I am then reading the checking battery status or something in that order.
[19:33] <hayer> bubu, zykotick9; here is the fdisk -l
[19:33] <hayer> http://paste.ubuntu.com/834345/
[19:33] <two|face> damo22: 03:00.0 Ethernet controller: Broadcom Corporation NetXtreme II BCM5708 Gigabit Ethernet (rev 12)
[19:33] <bubu> hayer: ok, no valid partition table
[19:34] <two|face> damo22: there is another adapter with a similar signature, the NIC has dual interfaces
[19:34] <bubu> you will need to partition it
[19:34] <zykotick9> hayer: ahh, well i no idea on /dev/mapper stuff.  good luck
[19:34] <bubu> $ gparted from terminal
[19:35] <z3ro3x> I've been running 11.10 for a while now and haven't had this problem until recently.  I leave Banshee play all night when I sleep and when the screen goes black my music stops.  I'm not sure if all my sounds is turning off or just Banshee.  Any idea how to fix this?  It's a desktop with separate external speakers and a sub woofer.  The LCD has not built in speakers.
[19:35] <damo22> two|face: ifconfig |grep 'eth'
[19:35] <hayer> bubu: how do I run gparted in the terminal?
[19:35] <lekremyelsew> no_gravity, good luck with the grub reinstall
[19:35] <zykotick9> hayer: to launch the GUI, type "gparted".  If you want CLI then "parted"
[19:36] <hayer> I am on a server - kinda hard.
[19:36] <hayer> no GUI with SSH ;]
[19:36] <zykotick9> hayer: ssh can support X forwarding actually
[19:36] <damo22> hayer does your server support X at all?
[19:36] <kapz> Does anyone knows to change the default background white colour of nautilus?
[19:36] <two|face> damo22: eth0 Link encap:Ethernet HWaddr 00:21:9b:8b:b3:e8
[19:36] <damo22> hayer: ssh -Y
[19:37] <kapz> Does anyone knows to change the default background white colour of nautilus on ubuntu 11.10?
[19:37] <hayer> damo22: no, I dont want no GUI wasting my resources :3
[19:37] <Lint> kapz, gnome-tweak-tool?
[19:37] <damo22> hayer: then put up with console and no gparted
[19:37] <hayer> well, still need a tool for the job. So any suggestions?
[19:37] <zykotick9> hayer: gparted is just a front-end to parted
[19:37] <damo22> hayer: fdisk / parted
[19:38] <hayer> damo22: sudo fdisk /dev/mapper/serv1-root or?
[19:38] <no_gravity> lekremyelsew: working on it. plan: mounting the encrypted lvm in ubuntu and then chrooting into the encrypted debian partition and then running grub-install /dev/sda. will see how it turns out...
[19:38] <zykotick9> hayer: i don't know, but i doubt fdisk support LVM?
[19:39] <kapz> Lint: do you mean like adding an extension? I don't find it as a default option to change nautilus background colour..
[19:39] <superstraw> ls
[19:39] <superstraw> crap
[19:39] <Lint> kapz, it will allow you to replace ayatana theme
[19:39] <Lint> or adwaitha whatever
[19:40] <Phoebus> How do I install a specific version of wine? 1.3.36
[19:40] <damo22> hayer: what are you trying to acheive
[19:40] <hayer> Well, if I do a lvremove /dev/mapper/serv1-root it says -> Can't remove open logical volume "root"
[19:40] <zykotick9> Phoebus: looks like you'd need a PPA or compile it
[19:41] <hayer> damo22: Look at this one http://paste.ubuntu.com/834345/  -  u see that last disk /Homer-root and /Hoomer-swap_1. I want to reformat them to "normal" disks.
[19:41] <kapz> Lint: whole theme for a background? is there no other way?
[19:41] <damo22> hayer: that is trying to delete your root partition
[19:41] <lekremyelsew> no_gravity, sounds like a plan :)
[19:41] <hayer> And as one, not as two. (Cause it really is just one disk)
[19:41] <Phoebus> zykotick9, I added the PPA, but don't know how to get the exact version.
[19:42] <zykotick9> Phoebus: what's the output of "apt-cache policy wine"
[19:42] <damo22> hayer: i need more info, are you currently booted off the /dev/mapper/homer-root?
[19:42] <hayer> damo22: how to check? I am a n00b at this.
[19:43] <Phoebus> zykotick9, http://pastebin.com/vw9T0e1b
[19:43] <hayer> But I think I boot from the sdb disk
[19:43] <damo22> hayer: because you cant format the root partition that is currently mounted
[19:43] <kapz> ok, is there any way of adding a clock widget on desktop on ubuntu 11.10? I have looked at lots of place and found no option...
[19:43] <two|face> damo22: eth0 Link encap:Ethernet HWaddr 00:21:9b:8b:b3:e8 (you asked for ifconfig | grep 'eth')
[19:43] <hayer> damo22: Well, pretty sure I boot from the sdb disk. Anyway to check that?
[19:43] <zykotick9> Phoebus: i'm not typing a captcha to view your paste.  good luck.
[19:43] <damo22> two|face: ifconfig -a , check for other interfaces too
[19:43] <Phoebus> zykotick9, try again. http://pastebin.com/vw9T0e1b
[19:44] <no_gravity> rebooting...
[19:44] <damo22> hayer: mount
[19:44] <hayer> want me to pm or paste it?
[19:44] <damo22> pm if you like
[19:44] <zykotick9> Phoebus: no PPA there?!
[19:44] <hayer> http://paste.ubuntu.com/834363/
[19:44] <two|face> damo22: eth0 (manual config), eth1 (not plugged in), lo
[19:44] <Phoebus> zykotick9, I remember adding a PPA in a long list of instrutions to get onlive.com's client to work.
[19:45] <hayer> damo22: http://paste.ubuntu.com/834363/
[19:45] <zykotick9> Phoebus: well, it didn't work
[19:45] <damo22> two|face: so whats the problem, it appears the interfaces are both working
[19:45] <Phoebus> 'sudo add-apt-repository ppa:ubuntu-wine/ppa && sudo  apt-get update && sudo apt-get install git && sudo  apt-get install autoconf && sudo apt-get build-dep wine1.3  && sudo apt-get install checkinstall && sudo apt-get  install wine1.3'
[19:45] <hayer> oh, sorry - didnt see that autopost - I <3 My Pluginsz
[19:45] <no_gravity> lekremyelsew, damo22: ok, the encrypted debian runs again :) thank you very much for all your help!
[19:45] <Phoebus> zykotick9, ok, good to know. So that command is... not working then. But the output showed that it did...
[19:46] <damo22> hayer: you are currently booted from homer-root
[19:46] <two|face> damo22: in Ubuntu on these NICs there is no data going in or out, if I load Windows or CentOS the NICs work fine
[19:46] <zykotick9> Phoebus: just try the "sudo add-apt-repository ppa:ubuntu-wine/ppa" (i'm just assuming that is the correct PPA)
[19:46] <wynn> what happens if you sync a file with unison, when the owner does not exist on the receiving box?
[19:46] <hayer> but why didnt it lvm when I chose not to.. hm-m..
[19:46] <hayer> well, thanks damo22 :- )
[19:46] <damo22> hayer: sdb1 is your /boot partition
[19:47] <lekremyelsew> no_gravity, your welcome, and congrats!
[19:47] <hayer> damo22: where is my third disk then?..
[19:47] <jenders> is there a command that displays the dpkg-reconfigure queue
[19:47] <damo22> hayer: you need to boot off a livecd to fix this
[19:47] <hayer> crap this, reinstall here i come
[19:47] <Phoebus> zykotick9, http://pastebin.com/gkQV9nGt
[19:47] <Phoebus> 'unchanged: 1'
[19:48] <damo22> hayer: but if you want to format a partition you are going to have to reinstall anyway
[19:48] <damo22> s/a partition/ the root partition
[19:49] <damo22> hayer: what are you trying to achieve
[19:50] <zykotick9> Phoebus: what ubuntu are you running?  I only see natty and maverick in that PPA.
[19:50] <hayer> damo22: getting all of my disks up and running - and i've tested all for errors - none found, but a boot from the cd fixed it right away.
[19:50] <zykotick9> Phoebus: i'm done, good luck (wine doesn't interest me)
[19:51] <damo22> hayer: that means nothing
[19:51] <jenders> ah, here we are
[19:51] <jenders> http://www.debian-administration.org/articles/251
[19:52] <jenders> /var/lib/dpkg/info contains the postrm, postinst, prerm scripts
[19:52] <jenders> neat :)
[19:52] <damo22> hayer: booting off the livecd will autodetect a lot of things but when you reboot you lose all that
[19:52] <hayer> damo22: ye, doing a clean install. I screw'd up some settings :<
[19:53] <damo22> hayer: i discourage lvm for simple setups
[19:53] <trond-> hayer, follow the perfect server setup from howtoforge, quite good explanations.
[19:53] <SegF4ult> hey guys, how can I capture mouse events using Xorg tools?
[19:53] <meerkats> my sound-hardware doesnt list anything, but as of yesterday I was able to play sound
[19:54] <pingsut> .t
[19:54] <two|face> damo22: any idea why dhcp wouldn't work on a clean install (11.10) when I can get it to work on other OSs?
[19:54] <damo22> two|face: is your network cable plugged in?
[19:54] <Joshun> hi
[19:55] <two|face> damo22: yes it is I checked :)  lights are on, had windows on the box earlier today, same cable, checked the other end to
[19:55] <Joshun> when i do ssh username@host it does not work, only when i do ssh username@host.local
[19:55] <Joshun> why is this?
[19:56] <two|face> damo22: not like the time I posted on stackoverflow asking why my drives weren't showing up and I forgot to put them into the hot swap bays ;)
[19:56] <zykotick9> Joshun: is host a name or IP (name i guess, and you've set a domain to .local)
[19:56] <Phoebus> zykotick9, alright well thanks for trying.
[19:56] <hayer> damo22, trond-: in the partiotion setup when i try to delete it, it says that it is in use by the LVM. Soo how can I delete it? (Doing a fresh install atm)
[19:56] <Joshun> @zykotick9 - but other computers on the network do not have that problem
[19:56] <Joshun> and they are all assigned by dhcp
[19:57] <fellayaboy> i seen a site that shows you how to reset the password to login if u forget it..i never tried it..but if i have an encrypted hard drive will that recovery work?
[19:57] <Joshun> i've tried static on this one but it still does the same thing
[19:58] <damo22> fellayaboy: the password for the encrypted drive is not the same as the password for login necessarily
[19:58] <trond-> hayer, I believe you have to delete the lvm group I think there is some choices that you can use. It's quite easy once you understand the concept of lvm (which is quite neat)
[19:58] <fellayaboy> well if someone gets the password to the login than they can see the contents of the hard drive right
[19:58] <Al3xG0> como eu faço o roteamento de 2 ips para o mesmo destino local host? 127.0.0.1
[19:58] <fellayaboy> if they login into ubuntu i mean
[19:58] <Al3xG0> how do I make routing 2 ips to the same destination local host? 127.0.0.1
[19:59] <hayer> trond-: help me, where can i delete the group?
[19:59] <damo22> fellayaboy: yes if the encrypted drive is set to automount
[19:59] <fellayaboy> :o
[20:00] <fellayaboy> when i was asked about generating a key at the beginning of my login i mistakely closed it..is it possible to go back and generate it
[20:00] <bobweaver> hello there I am trying to re-insall mysql-client and mysql-server. I keep getting the error :: ERROR: There's not enough space in /var/lib/mysql/   :: How do I clean up some space for that ?
[20:00] <bubu> if you compile a binary from source but need to recompile to change some variables do you need to remove any files or can you just make make install again?
[20:01] <trond-> hayer, can you restart the server and so you can start removing the lvm without doing much. I don't remember the setup part, but I believe there is a choice there were you can choose the lvm and delete each one
[20:01] <bobweaver> bubu:  sometimes there is a make clean command
[20:01] <riyonuk> is there a tutorial on setting up ssh? I've installed ssh "sudo apt-get install openssh-server", and can ssh into it, but how do I add users and whatnot?
[20:01] <bobweaver> !ssh | riyonuk
[20:02] <geoff> exit
[20:02] <geoff> lol
[20:02] <zykotick9> bobweaver: you might want to check "du -sh /var/cache/apt/archives/"
[20:02] <bubu> ffs ^^^ lol
[20:02] <trond-> hayer, you can check out lvm setup here: http://www.howtoforge.com/linux_lvm
[20:02] <bobweaver> thanks zykotick9
[20:03] <bubu> nobodys says anything...:(
[20:03] <spaceneedle> When I press Home and then  the Tab key at Terminal I get the following response: Display all 2187 possibilities?(y or n). Funny.
[20:03] <bobweaver> zykotick9:  gave me back ::175  /var/cache/apt/archives/::
[20:04] <bubu> if you compile a binary from source but need to recompile to change some variables do you need to remove any files or can you just make make install again?
[20:04] <bananenkampf-de> hey, when i run netstat -tulpen and it's listening on a port and it has the foreign adress 0.0.0.0:*  what does it mean? is it only avaible from my device?
[20:04] <hayer> trond-: okey, got around deleting the lvm group - but now the disk dosnt show up in the setup.. guess I can format it later using fdisk?
[20:04] <fellayaboy> i closed my the terminal at my first login of a fresh install that asked about encrypting the hard drive or generating the passkey or soemthing like that..how do i go back to taht
[20:04] <zykotick9> bobweaver: what?  ::175 should be a number followed by M or G?
[20:04] <Pepp-elito> Hi, anyone here who knows a good tool in ubuntu for updating video file metadata. Preferably automatically if possible, but else something with a straight forward ui. As it is now the files are not properly sohwn in xbmc, as it does not seem to parse the filename inorder to download the info.
[20:04] <damo22> bananenkampf-de: it means it is listening on that port for anyone
[20:04] <bobweaver> zykotick9:  sorry I must have hit backspace to many times  it is a M
[20:05] <zykotick9> bobweaver: so 175M is currently being used by your downloaded updates, you can clear this with "sudo apt-get clean"
[20:05] <bananenkampf-de> damo22, okay,. what can i do for detect the program? i want to know what it is
[20:05] <trond-> hayer, I believe you can. The whole setup will clean up all - if you do it correctly. just do the installation slow.
[20:05] <bobweaver> zykotick9:  thanks \
[20:05] <damo22> bananenkampf-de: lsof|grep TCP
[20:07] <bobweaver> zykotick9:  cool thanks!! so the cache for apt is like the cache for a browser sometimes it needs a cleaning ?
[20:07] <bananenkampf-de> its skype... okay
[20:07] <bananenkampf-de> thank you!
[20:07] <zykotick9> bobweaver: yup
[20:07] <vacho_> how do I zip an entire folder, it's sub folders and all hidden files?
[20:08] <bobweaver> Looks like it worked !! thanks again zykotick9
[20:08] <zykotick9> bobweaver: glad to help
[20:08] <bobweaver> vacho_:  Tar ?
[20:08] <bobweaver> or zip ?
[20:08] <vacho_> rather do zip, but i guess tar works too
[20:08] <vacho_> more familiar with zip :)
[20:08] <damo22> vacho_: zip -r
[20:08] <vacho_> does that do hidden too??
[20:09] <vacho_> and also, what if i want to specify where to put the zip file
[20:09] <damo22> man zip
[20:09] <vacho_> i looked in the man, couldn't find the hidden part.
[20:09] <damo22> vacho_: there is no such thing as a hidden linux file, only files beginning with a dot
[20:10] <vacho_> ok
[20:10] <vacho_> but u know what i mean
[20:11] <Pepp-elito> Hi, anyone here who knows a good tool in ubuntu for updating video file (mkv) metadata?
[20:11] <damo22> apt-cache search mkv metadata
[20:11] <bananenkampf-de> is it unsecure to use a networkbridge for running a windowsxp in virtualbox? (so the networktype bridge)
[20:11] <vacho_> damo22: how do I tell it where to put the zipfile?
[20:12] <drvanon_> hey guys, does anybody know how to install a rom file on ubuntu?
[20:12] <damo22> drvanon_: ?
[20:12] <drvanon_> damo22: what is the problem?
[20:13] <damo22> drvanon_: the question
[20:13] <drvanon_> damo22: o o
[20:13] <drvanon_> damo22: What's wrong wit it?
[20:13] <damo22> drvanon_: a rom file is a file, just like any other file
[20:13] <drvanon_> damo22: yes
[20:14] <damo22> drvanon_: so how would you copy a normal file to ubuntu
[20:14] <drvanon_> damo22: what do you mean? just copy paste?
[20:15] <bananenkampf-de> is it unsecure to use a networkbridge for running a windowsxp in virtualbox? (so the networktype bridge)
[20:15] <ikonia> bananenkampf-de: no more / less than a physical connection
[20:15] <bobweaver> bananenkampf-de:  that all depends hows your firewall ?
[20:15] <kapz> right click -> copy then on/in the flder you want to pastet, rightm click -> paste
[20:15] <drvanon_> not funny
[20:15] <bananenkampf-de> which firewall? running ubuntu 11.10 with virtualbox and an windows guest inside :)
[20:16] <drvanon_> I installed tilem
[20:16] <meerkats> aplay -l no soundcards found, what do I do?
[20:16] <drvanon_> runned it no ROM found
[20:16] <ikonia> bananenkampf-de: why do you want a firewall
[20:16] <bobweaver> bananenkampf-de:  or the one on your router if you have one must now-a-days do
[20:16] <drvanon_> got the rom files from internet
[20:16] <drvanon_> copy pasted it in the directory
[20:16] <drvanon_> no rom files found
[20:17] <damo22> meerkats: lspci |grep Sound
[20:17] <drvanon_> so I was thinking: lets install it
[20:17] <bananenkampf-de> ikonia, i asked because the answer of bobweaver. bobweaver, sometimes i'm online with my UMTS-surf-stick so the router-firewall doesnt count
[20:17] <drvanon_> but that too isn't the solution
[20:18] <bobweaver> bananenkampf-de:  ahh I see
[20:18] <ikonia> bananenkampf-de: sorry, I don't see how that's relevent
[20:18] <drvanon_> does anybbody have an idea on how i am going to make it say
[20:18] <drvanon_> yes it is here
[20:18] <drvanon_> ?
[20:18] <meerkats> damo22, nothing, absolutely nothing
[20:18] <llutz> bananenkampf-de: most umts/3g provider use NAT, so theres no access from WAN anyways
[20:18] <ikonia> drvanon_: what is the question ?
[20:19] <ninwa> ikonia, tilem is a texas instruments emulator, hes asking how to load a rom with it
[20:19] <damo22> meerkats: sorry lscpi|grep Audio
[20:19] <ninwa> its not really an ubuntu question
[20:19] <drvanon_> ninwa, where should i ask it?
[20:19] <ikonia> ninwa: I see, thank you
[20:19] <bananenkampf-de> ikonia, i run a virtual windows inside my ubuntu. when i use the bridged network for my vm. when the real network interface is parted (for guest and host) isn't it unsecure for the host?
[20:19] <ninwa> drvanon_, no idea, ive never used the program before, and their help forum has like 4 topics posted ever.... just play around with it
[20:19] <bananenkampf-de> maybe i dont understand the functionallity of the bridge right
[20:20] <drvanon_> ninwa, did a harsh try
[20:20] <ikonia> bananenkampf-de: no more or less than if you where running it on a physical device
[20:20] <ikonia> bananenkampf-de: the traffic is juust a passthrough so deal with it at the guest
[20:20] <damo22> meerkats: what kind of sound card is it
[20:21] <bananenkampf-de> ikonia okay, thank you!
[20:22] <mustafaerhann> hello all
[20:22] <T_H_X> yawn
[20:22] <scientes> http://paste.ubuntu.com/834410/
[20:22] <Nopo22> hi ._.
[20:22] <meerkats> lscpi command not found, its a built in sound card, dont ask me more, I know I have a navida graphics card, no more
[20:22] <meerkats> damo22,
[20:23] <mustafaerhann> i have a problem. i cant install any package via software center ubuntu 11.10 unity desktop
[20:23] <ninwa> Is there anyway to fix drag/drop across multiple screens? If I start dragging on the right screen it acts as if I had started dragging it from significantly less
[20:23] <ninwa> significantly further left*
[20:23] <mypanda> good evening :)
[20:23] <meerkats> pulse audio volume control lists a dummy output with the bar up and down, up and down (Im playing a video) but I cant hear any sound, but the sound is, somehow, there
[20:24] <damo22> meerkats: oh crap i misspelled it , just do lspci and look down the list for Audio
[20:24] <meerkats> damo22,
[20:24] <meerkats> 00:0f.0 Audio device: Silicon Integrated Systems [SiS] Azalia Audio Controller
[20:24] <mypanda> How does this work here ? Just put a question?
[20:25] <mustafaerhann> yea
[20:25] <damo22> meerkats: OK!! so sudo lspci -nnvv and look down the bottom for kernel modules loaded
[20:26] <damo22> meerkats: the bottom of the audio device part
[20:26] <bobweaver> mypanda:  yup just ask
[20:27] <mypanda> I try to deactivate Screen-Locking and User-switching in Ubuntu 10.04LTS But it doesnt work. I used gconf-edit and checked in desktop-lockdown-disableuserswitching. After the reboot the shutdown menu shows me the unwanted options
[20:27] <meerkats> damo22, 	Kernel modules: snd-hda-intel
[20:27] <meerkats> for 00:0f.0 Audio device: Silicon Integrated Systems [SiS] Azalia Audio Controller
[20:27] <tqrst> I'm looking for a program which can do basic plotting like gnuplot, but that also allows for more interactive exploration of the data, e.g. a dropdown of possible columns for each axis. Basically a more interactive, friendlier version of gnuplot. Is there anything like this out there? It should be as lightweight as possible (that rules oocalc out)
[20:28] <damo22> meerkats: alsamixer
[20:28] <meerkats> damo22, alsamixer from theterminal?
[20:29] <damo22> meerkats: can you tell me the device:vendor string xxxx:xxxx also from that output
[20:29] <meerkats> it says I dont have it, guess ill have to install
[20:29] <cmyrland> Hi all.. So I'm installing Ubuntu on my friend's old laptop for him to play with, and everything works fine.. of course.. except, of course, the wlan. The chip is a Broadcom BCM4311 802.11b/g WLAN accoding to lshw, and ubuntu installs the b43 driver.. but nothing happens. The wireless is dead. It doesn't even appear in the network indicator when b43 is installed.. The card's product name is BCM94311MCG, and all forum posts I can find are from 2008 and rec
[20:29] <cmyrland> ommends using ndiswrapper.. :o
[20:29] <damo22> meerkats: sudo apt-get install alsa-base
[20:29] <Kronsby> hello
[20:29] <vindav> Hi there all.  I'm having problems with Firefox 10 crashing within the use of Ubuntu 10.04 LTS.  Could some someone or a few persons be kind to help out as to advise me what to do ?
[20:30] <jhk> Is there a quick and easy way to update the nvidia drivers in Ubuntu. Right now I'm not using them but when using them the screen starts flickering and messing up after about 15-20 minutes.
[20:30] <meerkats> damo22, read the pm
[20:30] <Kronsby> vindav: is this a recent thing?
[20:31] <damo22> meerkats: lsmod |grep snd
[20:31] <cfhowlett> cmyrland: http://www.broadcom.com/support/802.11/linux_sta.php
[20:31] <cfhowlett> vindav: what's your hardware?
[20:31] <vindav> Kronsby:  This is a very recent thing.  For the last two to three days, I've had Firefox 11 do this, and now Firefox 10 is doing this all day, and it is annoying when opening Firefox 10 (FF10) and trying to read something when it goes down without warning.
[20:31] <meerkats> damo22, nothing for lsmod |grep snd
[20:32] <damo22> meerkats: well isnt that funny
[20:32] <Kronsby> jhk: did you use additional drivers?
[20:32] <cmyrland> cfhowlett, I'm currently running precise, so I guess that driver is already present in ubuntu repos?
[20:33] <Kronsby> vindav: does it happen right away or a few minutes after?
[20:33] <meerkats> alsamixer works now (alsamixergui)
[20:33] <meerkats> damo22, alsamixer works now (alsamixergui)
[20:33] <cfhowlett> cmyrland: probably not.  just download from broadcom
[20:33] <jhk> Kronsby. It shows that the restirctive nvidia drivers are in use. I removed those and it seems to be working fine now.
[20:33] <damo22> meerkats: what about sound output
[20:33] <meerkats> if I turn down the left bar, the dummy package sound bar also goes down
[20:33] <jhk> I just downloaded the amd64 drivers for my video card from nvidia.com.
[20:33] <Lozzy_uk> hi, anyone know if there's a LAN messaging client I can use under both windows and Linux?
[20:34] <damo22> make sure the pcm isnt muted
[20:34] <vindav> cfhowlett:  hi there again...back here with similar problems like last night.  I have a 3.2GHz quad core Dell XPS8100 desktop with a 500GB HDD, 4GB of SDRAM.
[20:34] <Kronsby> jhk: why do you not use the restrictive drivers?
[20:34] <jhk> I was. That was when I was getting the error.
[20:34] <cfhowlett> vindav: 64 or 32 bit ubuntu?
[20:35] <vindav> Kronsby:   Firefox 19 (FF10) crashed right away, sometime it stays up for a while and crashes at will; sometime when I try to open a link or tab, it crashes.
[20:35] <meerkats> do you mean pulseaudio volume control-output devices?
[20:35] <meerkats> damo22, ?
[20:35] <vindav> cfhowlett:  I have 64 bit Ubuntu 10.04 LTS on it.
[20:35] <damo22> meerkats: check alsamixer that there are green lights at the bottom not MM
[20:36] <damo22> meerkats: especially for master, pcm, and other things
[20:36] <melkor> My fan is running like made is there anything I can do?
[20:36] <cfhowlett> vindav: it seems that ffox is NOT 64 bit optimized if I'm reading things correctly.  See this: http://www.pcworld.com/businesscenter/article/246758/use_a_64bit_pc_instead_of_firefox_try_waterfox_90.html
[20:38] <Oer> melkor, running full speed is safe, try to install LMsensors
[20:38] <Oer> !lmsensors
[20:38] <vindav> cfhowlett:  Does this Waterfox (WF) have the ability to include all of Mozilla's add-ons and extension for use with it ?
[20:38] <cfhowlett> vindav: I don't use so I don't know.
[20:38] <cfhowlett> vindav: or you could try chromium...
[20:39] <graft> hello, how do i get less to display the same unicode characters my console displays?
[20:40] <melkor> graft: it seems like it should automatically. What do you use to see the characters in your console?
[20:40] <vindav> cfhowlett:  Chromium works great, except it doesn't have the luxurious plug-ins and add-ons like FF10 including Xmarks which are my bookmarks that come from a cloud I have to synchronize all my computers.
[20:40] <graft> melkor: cat, or grep, or something
[20:40] <meerkats> damo22, thats all my alsamixergui shows: http://imagebin.org/197959
[20:40] <graft> melkor: if i grep a line from some output, it displays fine
[20:40] <cfhowlett> vindav: drop back to FF9.  FF10 just came out - maybe not ready for prime time
[20:41] <graft> melkor: in less it shows up as <U+1FEDF> or some such
[20:41] <meerkats> damo22, I also found a GNOME alsa mixer that lists absolutely nothing, just a blank square
[20:41] <meerkats> i mean installed
[20:41] <damo22> meerkats: thats useless
[20:41] <vindav> cfhowlett:  I am willing to downgrade to FF9; how do I do that ?
[20:41] <melkor> graft: so if less something | grep  it works?
[20:41] <graft> melkor: yeah
[20:42] <damo22> meerkats: do you have 'alsamixer'
[20:42] <damo22> not the gui version
[20:42] <damo22> meerkats: just type it into console
[20:42] <jhk> How do I close the x server and then start it again for installing nvidia drivers?
[20:42] <macmartine> What are the best options for scheduling rake on Ubuntu?
[20:42] <jhk> I remember I have to do that.
[20:42] <macmartine> *rake tasks
[20:42] <h00k> !cron | macmartine
[20:42] <theadmin> jhk: sudo service lightdm stop
[20:42] <theadmin> jhk: And start.
[20:42] <vindav> cfhowlett:  Waterfox is an executable
[20:43] <jhk> Thanks theadmin
[20:43] <theadmin> jhk: That's with Oneiric, if you're using pre-Oneiric use "gdm" rather than "lightdm"
[20:43] <cfhowlett> vindav: searching
[20:43] <macmartine> h00k: yeah, figured, thanks
[20:43] <meerkats> damo22, alsamixer
[20:43] <meerkats> cannot open mixer: No such file or directory
[20:43] <meerkats> i dont see any "alsamixer" in synaptic
[20:43] <jhk> Roger that. I'm not sure what I'm using theadmin
[20:43] <meerkats> just the gui and the gnome ones
[20:43] <theadmin> jhk: Meh :P This will work on any release: sudo /etc/init.d/*dm stop
[20:44] <jhk> YES, that was what I was looking for. You the man. Thanks!
[20:44] <macmartine> Slightly off-topic but: I installed ISPConfig on Ubuntu. It was configured for one Nginx install but I had to move to a different Nginx install. Now how can I make ISPConfig aware of this new location and forget about the other one?
[20:44] <Atlantic777> hi! A friend of mine has a problem with webcam. There is an antry about it in lsusb, and there is a /dev/vide0, but image is gray when we try to capture with cheese or mplayer.
[20:44] <theadmin> jhk: The woman :P
[20:44] <melkor> graft: http://www.greenwoodsoftware.com/less/faq.html#intl
[20:44] <theadmin> jhk: But no problem
[20:44] <damo22> Atlantic777: sudo modprobe uvcvideo
[20:45] <damo22> Atlantic777: you probably need a firmware for that
[20:45] <Kronsby> quit
[20:45] <Atlantic777> damo22: dunno, we will see. :)
[20:45] <Nopo22> hi all :)
[20:45] <jhk> I assume to start it I would run...     sudo /etc/init.d/*dm start   ( theadmin )?
[20:45] <theadmin> jhk: Yep
[20:45] <|DM|> GOD DAMMIT STOP PINGING ME
[20:45] <mustafaerhann> icant install any software from software center  but i can install via konsol apt-get. plz help,
[20:46] <Oer> !language | |DM|
[20:47] <jhk> Alright. Here goes nothing. Wish me look guys :)
[20:47] <vindav> cfhowlett:  ok, waiting patiently   :D
[20:47] <graft> melkor: well, my LANG is already utf-8, since my console can understand it... and some characters display fine in less, others don't
[20:47] <|DM|> ~fine~
[20:47] <melkor> graft: are one of those two env set?
[20:48] <graft> melkor: yeah, my LANG is en_US.UTF-8
[20:48] <graft> melkor: as i said, less is already displaying unicode, just not all of it
[20:48] <melkor> graft: what about lesscharset or lesschardef?
[20:48] <cfhowlett> vindav: search your software center for browers.  install any/all of them and choose a flavor.  IDK why ffox is acting up on your box, but I'd suspect 32/643 bit issues.
[20:48] <graft> melkor: doesn't help
[20:48] <melkor> graft: have they been set before.
[20:49] <vacho_> how do I recursively search for files larger than 200mb?
[20:49] <vacho_> how do I recursively search for files larger than 200mb?
[20:49] <Atlantic777> damo22: it's still gray.
[20:50] <Atlantic777> btw, here's the lsusb from that machine with webcam and gray image http://paste.lugons.org/show/EbViTJPOUfGC3wuP6U27/
[20:50] <vacho_> anyone please?
[20:51] <melkor> vacho_: you'll probably have to write a bash script.
[20:51] <theadmin> vacho_: find / -size +200M
[20:51] <joboss> fr
[20:51] <theadmin> vacho_: Err, make that m lowercase
[20:51] <graft> melkor: they are set now, and don't help
[20:51] <damo22> Atlantic777: sudo rmmod uvcvideo && sudo modprobe gspca-zc3xx
[20:51] <theadmin> vacho_: That expects to be ran with sudo too... Here, like that: sudo find / -size +200m
[20:51] <vindav> cfhowlett:  I have the availablilty of Chromium and Konqueror at my disposal.  I'm going to try to downgrade to FF9.  If you know how to do this, please advise.  :D
[20:52] <ikonia> vindav: for the last time, it's firefox 10 in buntu 10.04
[20:52] <ikonia> vindav: it's not firefox 9 - it's 10
[20:52] <melkor> graft: It sounds odd I wonder if it is a bug.
[20:52] <vacho_> theadmin: just in current directly.
[20:52] <zamba> i need to set up a reverse ssh tunnel to be able to log back on a server that's behind fw.. how can i do this?
[20:53] <theadmin> vacho_: Ok then: find $PWD -size +200m
[20:53] <cfhowlett> vindav: strangely enough, DOWNGRADING ffox doesn't appear in the top 100 google results.
[20:53] <theadmin> vacho_: Or even: find . -size +200m
[20:53] <vindav> ikonia:  FF10 is crashing consistently as FF11 was in the past three day consecutively.  I figure it's time to downgrade.  What can you offer that I could try out ?
[20:53] <vacho_> thx
[20:53] <Atlantic777> damo22: the image is still gray
[20:53] <ikonia> vindav: to be honest - I'd think hard about what you are doing
[20:54] <damo22> zamba: ssh -f -L lport:host:rport user@server -N
[20:54] <ikonia> vindav: you added a PPA to the base install - that's not a wise move unless you are sure of the stability
[20:54] <ikonia> vindav: secondly firefox 10 and 11 is crashing......does that not suggest there is an underlying problem
[20:54] <meerkats> damo22, do I have to apt-get install libasound2 alsa-utils alsa-oss ?
[20:54] <cfhowlett> vindav: fff11???!!!
[20:54] <ikonia> cfhowlett: he enabled a testing PPA
[20:54] <meerkats> from http://alsa.opensrc.org/Quick_Install
[20:54] <cfhowlett> ikonia: ahhhhhh.
[20:55] <damo22> meerkats: no just probably remove pulseaudio
[20:55] <theadmin> Dude. Mozilla should slow down on releases, I bet we'll have Firefox 9001 in a couple years
[20:55] <ikonia> hence why he's having the issues he is now
[20:55] <vindav> ikonia:  I'll give you a screenshot of my software sources very soon.
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[20:55] <damo22> meerkats: and use alsa
[20:55] <ikonia> vindav: I don't need to
[20:55] <ikonia> vindav: I understand what happened, I read the details earlier
[20:55] <metasansana> theadmin:  and it would still freeze ever so often
[20:55] <theadmin> metasansana: Yep xD
[20:56] <theadmin> metasansana: I'm a Chrome/Chromium user so I don't care most of the time
[20:56] <metasansana> theadmin: Im thinking about the switch, I used to love Firefox a whole lot
[20:56] <theadmin> metasansana: Mind pm'ing me? This is offtopic but heh
[20:56] <zamba> damo22: connection refused at the other end
[20:57] <ehsan__> i make a bootable ubuntu on my flash memory, and set mother board first boot to usb flash, but it cant boot .  help me ??
[20:57] <ikonia> ehsan__: define can 't boot
[20:58] <vindav> ikonia:  http://imagebin.org/197964
[20:58] <ikonia> vindav: I said I didn't need to see it
[20:58] <vindav> cfhowlett:  http://imagebin.org/197964
[20:58] <ehsan__> ikonia what is your mean
[20:58] <vindav> ikonia:  sorry
[20:58] <ikonia> vindav: it would be worth while if you listen to what is being said to you
[20:58] <meerkats> damo22, i will remove gnome if I get rid of pulseaudio...
[20:58] <vindav> ikonia:  I am trying to even understand as well.
[20:58] <Oer> ehsan__, check the HDD section, i have to select my usb drive there too
[20:59] <zamba> damo22: i have to do -R instead of -L
[20:59] <damo22> meerkats: install pasuspender?
[20:59] <ikonia> vindav: your system is filled with external repos and PPA's - that will be the cause of your instability
[20:59] <T_H_X> zamba: :)
[20:59] <cfhowlett> ikonia: +!
[20:59] <zamba> T_H_X: hm?
[20:59] <vindav> ikonia:  ok, how do we alleviate that together ? I'll follow your step-by-step instructions.
[21:00] <ehsan__> oer what shud do now, plz help
[21:00] <ikonia> vindav: to be honest, in my opinion you need to re-install to get a safe/clean ubuntu setup, then not install PPA's and 3rd party repos
[21:00] <Oer> ehsan__, check your bios again, you set boot to usb, now check hdd priority.
[21:01] <gaby> hello - i need some help to kill some unresponsive program
[21:02] <vindav> ikonia:    Of all the Ubuntu O/S that are out there for 64 bit, what would you install, and how would you do that when you have a dual boot system (Windows 7 / Ubuntu 10.04 LTS) on it ?  And Also, how does one not install PPA's and 3rd party repos  ?
[21:02] <graft> gaby: usually if you jsut click close the system will ask you if you want to terminate it
[21:02] <ikonia> vindav: you should use what versions you want, and you don't install 3rd party and PPA repos by not adding them as you have done on this occasions
[21:02] <ehsan__> oer i check it more than 5, my first boot is usb
[21:02] <gaby> graft - it doesnt give me this
[21:03] <graft> gaby: otherwise you can open a terminal and do pkill -9 -f <name of program>
[21:03] <Oer> ehsan__, oke, next try, during startup of your pc, can you choose bootoptions with F8 or so ? use that too
[21:03] <vindav> ikonia:  how can we find out what Firefox versions in Ubuntu are meant for 64 bit machines ?
[21:03] <gaby> give me the exact command for skype please
[21:03] <ikonia> vindav: it's the same as 32bit
[21:03] <meelu> Does anybody use Aria2c? when i am saving a file i want to save it as a filename i provide, how could i do this?
[21:04] <ikonia> vindav: when you install ubuntu it has firefox already installed - use it
[21:04] <graft> gaby: pkill -9 -f skype, would probably work
[21:04] <DJones> vindav: I've got Ubuntu 11.10 64 bit with the default firefox installed, I've never had any issues with it crashing
[21:05] <ehsan__> oer i have laptop and i press F2 for set it
[21:05] <gaby> graft: thanks
[21:05] <graft> gaby: otherwise you can use ps -ef to figure out what the process is called. i also recommend the program htop, which lets you see what's taking up CPU and memory and kill it interactively
[21:05] <vindav> Djones:  do you also have lots of add-ons and plug-ins like : Xmarks ?
[21:05] <Oer> ehsan__, what is the message you get, when you try to boot ?
[21:05] <DJones> vindav: No, I don't use them
[21:05] <ikonia> vindav: the plugins where not the issue for you - the issue was the 3rd party repos and PPA repos
[21:06] <vindav> ikonia:   Ok, how can I prevent PPA and 3rd party repos from coming in or being selected for use ?
[21:06] <ikonia> vindav: you selected them last time - just don't select them
[21:07] <cfhowlett> vindav: PPA
[21:07] <DJones> vindav: PPA's have to be added by the user, if you don't add them, they can't be used
[21:07] <ehsan__> oer no message  it boot from main hard disk(windows that installed) and boot windows 7
[21:07] <cfhowlett> vindav: the PPA you intalled (repeatedly) is for the cinelerra video editing package.
[21:07] <vindav> I won't select PPAs anymore then.  Can I still load software like Cinelerra ?
[21:08] <urlin2u> ehsan__, what is your computer model?
[21:08] <ikonia> cfhowlett: there are many PPA enabled in his setup, not one
[21:08] <cfhowlett> vindav: cinelerra isn't in the repos, and requires a ppa.  If I may ask, do you intend to do high end video editing?
[21:08] <ehsan__> DELL 5010, urlin2u
[21:09] <cfhowlett> ikonia: roger that
[21:09] <davidoxis> ciao a tutti
[21:09] <davidoxis> !list
[21:09] <cfhowlett> !it|davidoxis
[21:09] <urlin2u> ehsan__, cool try as soon as you hit the power buuton holding down the f12 key and see if you get a boot from gui.
[21:09] <vindav> cfhowett:  I intend to use it for doing that and editing other video segments I have once I learn it well.
[21:11] <cfhowlett> vindav: allow me to suggest you start with openshot.  cinelerra is some SERIOUS editing to work with and not intuitive.  If you have a background in video editing, go for it.  otherwise...btw, you might wish to also discuss this package in #ubuntustudio
[21:11] <urlin2u> ehsan also try the f8 key, at powering on.
[21:12] <vindav> cfhowlett:  ok, we'll, I'll do that.  That sounds like wise advice.
[21:12] <Oer> urlin2u, those keys are to enter the bios ?
[21:12] <urlin2u> Oer, no the post bios boot from gui.
[21:12] <remsSs> hi everybody
[21:13] <Oer> urlin2u, ah oke, manual override boot
[21:13] <vindav> cfhowlett:  So, it looks like I need to put in a new Ubuntu O/S.  I have Ubuntu 11.10 on iso on a USB stick in the slot.
[21:14] <cfhowlett> vindav: before you do all that, join me/us in #ubuntustudio - "Honey, we need to talk..."
[21:14] <urlin2u> Oer, we see this problem at times and this gui is all you need and it is a good to know about this option, many have no clue of this option. :)
[21:14] <alteregoa> darmok and jalad at tanagra
[21:15] <vindav> cfhowlett:  If you go to #ubuntustudio, that's where I'll be right now in 30 seconds.
[21:15] <pangolin> alteregoa: when the walls fell.
[21:15] <pangolin> alteregoa: please use #ubuntu-offtopic for silly chat :)
[21:16] <remsSs> what means silly ?
[21:16] <remsSs> i am sorry is there a translator on linux ?
[21:17] <johnbiloute> bonjour
[21:17] <johnbiloute> bonjour
[21:17] <Sebastien> pourkoi tu répète?
[21:18] <pangolin> !fr
[21:18] <MuJU> laa kgxvreu twpcrcs dxpdweb iocee gtxlyxzps nnw v
[21:18] <sskalnik> what's a good mp3 encoder for ubuntu?
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[21:18] <MuJU> jexekxfj pzzjg btomndod hhy u fbkxifszx ddneba ubbgqpxf ulf
[21:18] <theadmin> sskalnik: lame
[21:18] <T_H_X> ergh
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[21:18] <remsSs> hi johnbiloute tu peux aller sur join #ubuntu-fr
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[21:18] <pangolin> MuJU: English please
[21:18] <damo22> sskalnik: a better encoder for audio is flac
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[21:19] <sskalnik> damo22:  I asked about mp3 though. ;)
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[21:19] <remsSs> It 's a mistake will you stop please
[21:19] <FloodBot1> Reiunea: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[21:19] <boobear1> Hello I need help with an Android device please anyone thanks in advance
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[21:20] <damo22> sskalnik: lame --alt-preset extreme wav mp3
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[21:20] <AfterDeath> !ops botnets about, freenode staff presence could be used :)
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[21:20] <sskalnik> damo22:  What does that preset do?
[21:21] <damo22> sskalnik: it does special things that the good ol fashioned lame did
[21:21] <Tasmania|brb> Hello is there any administrators of freenode here?
[21:21] <bastidrazor> Tasmania|brb: no, but in #freenode or #staff you can find them
[21:21] <damo22> sskalnik: the insane preset does 320kbps CBR
[21:21] <pangolin> Tasmania|brb: #freenode
[21:21] <Tasmania|brb> cool
[21:21] <owenll> boobear1: you could try #android
[21:21] <sskalnik> damo22:  Great, it that true stereo?
[21:22] <damo22> sskalnik: i believe so
[21:22] <sskalnik> damo22:  Sweet, thanks
[21:23] <damo22> sskalnik: rtm dont take my word for it
[21:23] <sskalnik> Oh I am
[21:23] <damo22> sskalnik: one thing about protools wavs is that it puts extra header info in there that identifies that protools wrote it
[21:25] <TheMaster> Ok
[21:25] <dicannamas> could someone tell me what it does the command sh?
[21:26] <ubuntu_userSwiss> hi there
[21:26] <Nemoless> Hello to everybody. Could somebody tell me where I could get DES libs for java(netbeans)?)
[21:27] <aBound> dicannamas, the SH command is just a shell called Dash. It's not capable of doing as much as Bash and Zsh.
[21:27] <remsSs> you can throw scripts with sh !
[21:28] <^sunonthecross^> anyone know if Jolicloud is based on Ubuntu?
[21:28] <JT-oneReb> Is anyone using Puppy or Slitaz
[21:28] <dicannamas> aBound, i am trying to install a graphic driver and when i do this command "sh ./ati-driver-installer-11-9-x86.x86_64.run --buildpkg Ubuntu/oneiric"
[21:28] <zenguy_vm> ^sunonthecross^,  yes it is
[21:28] <urlin2u> ^sunonthecross^, it is linux, based on hard to say exactly.
[21:28] <Nemoless> Could somebody tell me where I could get DES libs for java(netbeans)?)
[21:29] <dicannamas> aBound, i get this error message "Created directory fglrx-install.3dKkdI
[21:29] <dicannamas> Verifying archive integrity...Error in MD5 checksums: e6ae4fb5c63f44314f1853f42e8ae069 is different from 95ca4d623ad84301e60d1e0c81a2b654"
[21:29] <rebe> How do I change mouse scroll speed in ubuntu ?
[21:29] <aBound> dicannamas, Have you checked if there were a README file within the zip folder or or folder itself?
[21:29] <^sunonthecross^> so can I pretty much assume that most of what I want to do with Joli has it's roots/answers in Ubuntu?
[21:29] <remsSs> rebe french ?
[21:29] <SHOVELL> hello everyone!
[21:29] <Lunar_Lander> anybody got experience with Pidgin?
[21:29] <meberhart> i use Pidgin
[21:29] <SHOVELL> lunar a little
[21:29] <rebe> remsSs: no
[21:29] <Lunar_Lander> I wanted to connect to Freenode IRC and then it just won't connect
[21:30] <Lunar_Lander> had to delete that account and make a new one to get to here
[21:30] <Lunar_Lander> even restarting didn't help
[21:30] <dicannamas> aBound, i did wget the file http://linux-software-news-tutorials.blogspot.com/2011/10/ubuntu-1110-oneiric-problems-with-ati.html
[21:30] <Lunar_Lander> any ideas why that happened suddenly?
[21:30] <meberhart> i have no idea
[21:30] <Lunar_Lander> OK
[21:30] <Lunar_Lander> thanks anyway :)
[21:31] <aBound> dicannamas, The ATI drivers aren't in the default repositories for your version?
[21:31] <meberhart> did it do it more than once?
[21:31] <superdave321_> how should i launch google chrome with the command line? specifically for x11?
[21:31] <Lunar_Lander> meberhart: just a moment ago when I tried to connect to here
[21:31] <meberhart> google-chrome-stable, i think...
[21:31] <ehsan2> urlin2u  when i press F12  come a page for select boot, but  the list have not usb boot ?!
[21:31] <someone235> hi, i have an ubutnu server 9.10. how i can upgrade it to the newest version?
[21:32] <^sunonthecross^> how do i remove the native browser from Joli? Any ideas?
[21:32] <Manehattan> ubiquity is stuck on "removing conflicting operating system files"
[21:32] <aBound> dicannamas, This little tutorial seems to show you how to install the ATI Catalyst driver without having to grab the driver manually.
[21:32] <dicannamas> aBound, i am having graphic issues...computer crashing
[21:32] <SHOVELL> i need to write a script that opens two terminal windows as different users and have them run a command each can someone point me tward a tutorial or something?
[21:32] <martyn_t> Hi chaps. Is is possible for Ubuntu server to accidentally  (or by design) assign two users to one UID?  I have looked at my /etc/passwd account and found two people with id 10000.  So when I try and chown from my name to his (I have root access) it springs back to my (non-root) name.  Does this make sense?
[21:32] <rebe> How do I change mouse scroll wheel speed ?
[21:33] <urlin2u> ehsan2, try it a couple of times make sure the usb is showing in the Wy OS then reboot to the f12 prompt. As well how did you load ubuntu to the usb?
[21:33] <Wat12> Hi
[21:33] <urlin2u> W7*
[21:33] <aBound> dicannamas, Are you able to login with a GUI or you can't login at all?
[21:34] <Delta21> I have a quick question. Does Firefox store its stuff in the home directory? I ask, because I have a laptop and I'm wondering if home directory encryption will protect my bookmarks/passwords.
[21:34] <dicannamas> aBound, i do but the system crash for no reason...aparently
[21:34] <^sunonthecross^> is #ubuntu on freenode?
[21:34] <Delta21> yep
[21:35] <^sunonthecross^> so why is listed as Ubuntu Servers in my network list?
[21:35] <urlin2u> Delta21, crtl-h will show .mozilla yes if your storing all that in FF it is protected.
[21:35] <damo22> ^sunonthecross^: thats like walking up to your local fruit shop and asking is this on the main street?
[21:35] <Delta21> Thanks. :)
[21:36] <MoleMan> is it possible to install software RAID after Ubuntu is already installed and running?
[21:36] <^sunonthecross^> is it? when I go to network list Ubuntu Servers looks like any other network so when I connected I was on freenode which is listed separately... confusing
[21:36] <damo22> MoleMan: sure, but not to make it boot off the raid
[21:36] <Manehattan> So is it intended that the ubuntu installer never finishes??
[21:36] <urlin2u> Manehattan, what do yo think?
[21:37] <Manehattan> urlin2u: I'm ready to believe anything by now
[21:37] <MoleMan> damo22: hmmm :( had Ubuntu Server running for ages, don't want to have to reinstall, and don't want to have to buy a bigger HDD atm.
[21:37] <damo22> MoleMan: you can easily add software raid as a new mountpoint
[21:38] <aBound> dicannamas, It could be a bad install of the driver itself if it has already been installed. I would say to check the logs but I'm not sure which log you'd have to check.
[21:38] <urlin2u> Manehattan, it can take a little while if yiou choose downloads in the install about 20 generally at my 330 kb download cap
[21:38] <urlin2u> 20 min
[21:38] <SHOVELL> i need to write a script that opens two terminal windows as different users and have them run a command each can someone point me tward a tutorial or something?
[21:38] <Manehattan> urlin2u: It rather tells me "removing conflicting files" and does that for 30 minutes now, I'm not quite convinced it does what it claims to do
[21:39] <damo22> MoleMan: ie, add new disks and configure them as a raid array mounted on say /opt
[21:39] <MoleMan> damo22: the point is I was hoping I could just stick another drive in, set it up and it would keep growing onto the new drive without me needing to move stuff to the other drive...
[21:39] <urlin2u> Manehattan, this a usb or disc?
[21:39] <Manehattan> urlin2u: usb
[21:39] <damo22> MoleMan: no you would need to backup everything and put it back, technically this is possible without reinstalling
[21:40] <MoleMan> damo22: if I added it as a new mount point, if I wanted to keep a folder together, wouldn't I have to move the entire folder to the new mount-point?
[21:40] <SHOVELL> !vm
[21:40] <urlin2u> Manehattan, I would check the md5sum of the iso, also how did you get the ubuntu image on the usb?
[21:40] <dicannamas> aBound, thanks i will check if is anything else around i can do
[21:40] <damo22> MoleMan: yes
[21:40] <Delta21> So I have this old computer, I want to use it as a server for some virtual drives for the Windows computers on my network. Is tooling around with Samba the only option?
[21:40] <SHOVELL> !vmware irc
[21:40] <Manehattan> urlin2u: I used unetbootin, it checks the md5
[21:41] <damo22> MoleMan: where do you want the drive to grow from
[21:41] <aBound> dicannamas, I gotcha no problem probably best to ask somebody in here more experienced than me. :P
[21:41] <damo22> MoleMan: /home?
[21:41] <SHOVELL> !vmware
[21:41] <urlin2u> Manehattan, never heard of unetbootin checking the sum was this a net download with unenbootin?
[21:41] <MoleMan> damo22: so it would be possible to backup my system, reinstall to use RAID as boot, then restore original programs and config?
[21:41] <dicannamas> aBound, okies
[21:41] <T_H_X> rebe: install gpointing-device-settings    you can set them in there
[21:41] <damo22> MoleMan: yes i have done this
[21:41] <Manehattan> urlin2u: Yes it is, Daily Live 12.04
[21:42] <Manehattan> i'll reboot and try again
[21:42] <rebe> I just found out that it's ms mouse bugg
[21:42] <damo22> MoleMan: it is quite tricky to get raid as boot drive
[21:42] <canis__> wow
[21:42] <damo22> MoleMan: but its possible certainly
[21:42] <urlin2u> Manehattan, your on the wrong channel #ubuntu+1 is where this is addressed
[21:42] <MoleMan> damo22: its my torrents on Ubuntu Server, so basically everything taking up space is in #forgets folder transmission saves to#
[21:43] <Manehattan> urlin2u: Oh, sorry, I dod
[21:43] <T_H_X> rebe: ah, unplug and plug in eh?
[21:43] <Manehattan> urlin2u: *didn't know
[21:43] <urlin2u> Manehattan, no biggie. :)
[21:43] <rebe> T_H_X: yea
[21:43] <damo22> MoleMan: why not move this folder to root of raid and mount it on /opt
[21:43] <m1chael> is postfix with postgresal support easier to set up on centos or ubuntu? is ubuntu generally easier to work with?
[21:43] <ekaleido> its a flavor thing
[21:44] <ekaleido> depends on what you like more
[21:44] <MoleMan> damo22: I don't understand what you mean by that, dummies terms please?
[21:44] <prova> ciao
[21:44] <g105b> Is there any way of automatically making my webpage refresh in LYNX browser?
[21:44] <prova> !list
[21:45] <damo22> MoleMan: add a raid array, mounted on /opt, then move all the bt files to /opt and  tell transmission to download there
[21:45] <bjweihe`> I have a question. My friend is running a piece of software under mono. He says that when he runs it under the root user, it uses less ram. Is that possible?
[21:46] <damo22> MoleMan: this solution is much easier than making your root partition raid
[21:46] <MoleMan> damo22: If you're suggesting setting up a new RAID array and moving everything to that, the PC only has space for 2 HDDs, it already has 1 in, and I wanted to add another in RAID 0 to just grow the existing drive, not create a new separate array
[21:47] <MoleMan> damo22: or is it possible to move everything to the new drive, shrink the root partition, and then use RAID to join the new drive to the space I've just created on the first?
[21:47] <damo22> MoleMan: you cant stripe the data from an existing partition and create a raid on the same drive without clobbering all the data
[21:47] <brodock> anyone got 12.04 working on virtualbox?
[21:48] <SHOVELL> !VirtualBox
[21:48] <pragmaticenigma> brodock, you will not find support here for 12.04 since it has not been officially released
[21:48] <lwizardl> hello what would be a good gui app for testing all the files in a sha1 ?
[21:48] <urlin2u> brodock, #ubuntu+1 is your channel.
[21:48] <brodock> thanks
[21:48] <SHOVELL> i need to write a script that opens two terminal windows as different users and have them run a command each can someone point me tward a tutorial or something?
[21:49] <damo22> MoleMan: its much more efficient to create a raid where you have 2 identical disks and they both take up the full amount
[21:49] <damo22> MoleMan: otherwise theyre not really a raid
[21:49] <MoleMan> damo22: if it makes any difference, I'm not that bothered about performance, using JBOD would be fine for me as well (whether that counts as RAID or not, and however that would work)
[21:51] <damo22> MoleMan: since you are not really interested in hotswapping out drives, its probably easier not to do raid at alll
[21:51] <damo22> MoleMan: just add the second disk as new space
[21:52] <MoleMan> damo22: I was only looking at RAID 0 as that was the only way I knew of, of making 2 physical HDDs work as one...
[21:52] <T_H_X> SHOVELL: just google for bash tutorial, and also look for  gnome-terminal -x
[21:52] <damo22> MoleMan: you can mount the second hard drive onto a directory
[21:52] <damo22> so / contains 1 drive and /opt contains the second drive
[21:53] <damo22> for example
[21:53] <damo22> MoleMan: but you cant mount 2 disks onto the same mountpoint
[21:53] <m1chael> is ubuntu easier to deal with than centos?
[21:53] <damo22> unless you raid them
[21:54] <acicula> you can also use LVM for that
[21:54] <damo22> personally i hate lvm
[21:55] <MoleMan> damo22: If I understand correctly, my issue with that is the vast majority of my files are in 1 main folder, the download directory from Transmission, so its not like I can split everything else to one place and mount the other disk to the download folder, because I want the space of both to be accessible in 1 folder.
[21:55] <damo22> MoleMan: this is not possibl
[21:55] <damo22> unless you use clunky lvm
[21:56] <MoleMan> damo22: but is that not what RAID 0 would achieve?
[21:56] <acicula> not sure whats wrong with using LVM,
[21:56] <damo22> raid is very complicated
[21:57] <matthijs> hi, how can I change the system fonts? It used to be in appearance settings, but it was removed from there
[21:57] <damo22> if you lose data you cant recover easily unless you have backups and / or spare disks in the array
[21:58] <MoleMan> If you understand what I want to achieve, would I be best to backup everthing to an external drive, reinstall UbuntuServer, setting up raid on the two disks and restore everything onto the system with RAID, or would I be better using LVM or something?
[21:58] <damo22> MoleMan: are the two disks identical?
[21:58] <MoleMan> I understand the risks and lack of data redundancy in RAID 0.
[21:59] <MoleMan> I believe so, both 160GB drives (opens PC to check
[21:59] <acicula> MoleMan: http://stackoverflow.com/questions/237434/raid-verses-lvm, has a decent answer. id stick with lvm tbh
[21:59] <damo22> MoleMan: you have to tweak your kernel commandline to make it boot off raid
[22:00] <meerkats> damo22, I got rid of all alsa entries found in synaptic and im now proceeding to install 1.0.25 from source
[22:00] <MoleMan> oh, no, one is a 160 GB WD, the other is 160GB seagate
[22:00] <damo22> MoleMan: thats ok
[22:00] <damo22> MoleMan: the size is the important part
[22:01] <abys> Does somebody knows a good tron like openbox theme ?
[22:02] <damo22> MoleMan: the thing with LVM is you cant run fdisk on the partition table and play with it
[22:02] <damo22> MoleMan: you have to use some other tool
[22:02] <cryptodira> trying to do the upgrade manager version of moving from 10.10 to 11.04...... i am getting this error:   Could not download the release notes   Check your internet connection.... what would be causing this error  ?
[22:03] <damo22> dos partition table + mbr ftw
[22:03] <imbezol> damo22: if you learned lvm i think you'd change your tune
[22:03] <acicula> cryptodira: err, network not working? mirror down?
[22:04] <bizio> !list
[22:04] <imbezol> damo22: lvm opens a whole world of possibilities that weren't possible back in the 286 days with partition tables on disk
[22:04] <sun_devil> yum install
[22:04] <cryptodira> acicula, network is working.... have tried all of the mirror options..... same result.
[22:04] <acicula> cryptodira: can you run apt-get update?
[22:05] <damo22> imbezol: i like to know where my data is stored physically so i can recover it when i need to
[22:05] <imbezol> damo22: i like to have my data in more than one spot
[22:05] <damo22> not have some abstraction that takes away my control
[22:05] <imbezol> damo22: i don't want to need to recover it
[22:05] <MoleMan> cryptodira: I got the same when I booted my ubuntu desktop installation for the first time in ages earlier, I just ignored it though as I never use it anyway
[22:05] <SHOVELL> T_H_X, i am sorry but i have looked and searched for the things you have mentioned and as far as i could see in the first 4 google pages(i did read the ones that were remotely close) there was nothing to indicate how to run two terminal windows and pass commands to each
[22:06] <imbezol> damo22: anyways.. once you learn it you know exactly where the data is
[22:06] <MoleMan> does LVM leave data in a more recoverable state than RAID then?
[22:06] <urlin2u> imbezol, me two full clone and backups of them and home.
[22:06] <damo22> MoleMan: i would think so
[22:06] <cryptodira> acicula, yes.... that verified all of the 10.10 files....then quit.
[22:06] <urlin2u> s/to/clones
[22:06]  * MoleMan starting to wish I just has the £90 to buy another 1TB HDD
[22:07] <acicula> cryptodira: weird, does that prevent the upgrade process from continuing?
[22:08] <sun_devil> Thanks, could not get yum to do anything
[22:08] <mixalis> \query FDFlock
[22:08] <cryptodira> acicula, yes.... the process fails.... in the meantime, i think i will d/l the 11.04 iso and burn it and try the upgrade that way.... unless you have a solution for the automatic method?
[22:09] <acicula> cryptodira: could try running upgrade-manager -d in a console
[22:10] <boumlik> flash bios eeepc 1015ped
[22:10] <acicula> MoleMan: if you have data on an lvm volume spread across two disks and one dies then it will break the volume yeah, but you might be able to fix what remains of the volume on the second disk
[22:10] <imbezol> MoleMan: lvm lets you do thinks like make a volume span multiple drives, or mirror drives here and there, or grow and shrink stuff as needed, or encrypt, or a billion other things
[22:10] <freshnick> Qazjap11: hi baby
[22:10] <darrenfoster1976> evening guys, got me a problem with the software-center it loads but all i get is a white screen, ive uninstalled it reinstalled it, updated it... still same any suggestions?
[22:10] <cryptodira> acicula, the particulars of that command escape me....
[22:10] <sun_devil> So I have to list the packages I want?
[22:10] <acicula> cryptodira: its just the textbased distribution upgrade tool
[22:10] <Qazjap11> freshnick, ?
[22:10] <imbezol> MoleMan and acicula: yes.. if a volume spanning multiple drives (without raid protection) suffers a disk failure, you will lose only what's on that disk.
[22:11] <freshnick> Qazjap11: hello sweetheart
[22:11] <imbezol> MoleMan: you can use lvm and raid together to get good protection and flexibility
[22:11] <cryptodira> acicula, i will look for it.... thanks
[22:11] <meerkats> WARNING!!! The mixer channels for the ALSA driver are muted by default!!!
[22:11] <meerkats> **************************************************************************
[22:11] <meerkats> You would use some ALSA or OSS mixer to set the appropriate volume.
[22:11] <meerkats>  i need an example
[22:11] <FloodBot1> meerkats: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[22:12] <onlygentoo> alsamixer
[22:12] <onlygentoo> f6
[22:12] <onlygentoo> choose device
[22:12] <onlygentoo> move to cntrol
[22:12] <onlygentoo> press up key to trun it up
[22:12] <FloodBot1> onlygentoo: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[22:12] <darrenfoster1976> evening guys, got me a problem with the software-center it loads but all i get is a white screen, ive uninstalled it reinstalled it, updated it... still same any suggestions?
[22:13] <acicula> start it from a console perhaps and see if it gives any errors?
[22:13] <darrenfoster1976> ok thanks ill try that
[22:13] <imbezol> MoleMan: the awesome thing about software raid is you can take a drive from any system and put it in any system and it will work
[22:13] <Bodsda> darrenfoster1976: I saw this same thing on the forums a few days ago I think. Have you given the box a reboot recently? Try turning on-off the compiz effects if the reboot doesnt help
[22:13] <sun_devil> How do find updates for yum
[22:13] <imbezol> MoleMan: if you use hardware raid, and say for example your raid controller dies... you're screwed unless you find another raid controller like the one that died
[22:14] <darrenfoster1976> its on my laptop bodsda
[22:14] <MoleMan> imbezol: If life was easy, I could just have a proper server, with several 1TB drives in raid with massive redundancy, instead I'm trying to span a volume across two 160GB drives in my old PC :)
[22:14] <sun_devil> my yum update does not work in root
[22:14] <urlin2u> sun_devil, that is fedora not supported. :)
[22:14] <imbezol> MoleMan: plus the raid tools under linux and far more powerful than what you get with a hardware raid controller
[22:14] <acicula> yeah dont use hardware raid on consumer motherboards
[22:14] <recon_lap> bad sign if rebooting is now a fix :-(
[22:14] <imbezol> MoleMan: try lvm then.. i think you'll be happy with it
[22:14] <sun_devil> debian
[22:14] <imbezol> MoleMan: if you lose a drive, you'll lose one drive worth of data, same as you would with them unspanned
[22:14] <urlin2u> sun_devil, try #fedora
[22:14] <Bodsda> imbezol: hardware raid wipes the floor with fakeraid
[22:15] <MoleMan> OK, so will LVM install and work easily on top of my existing installation without too much hassle then?
[22:15] <darrenfoster1976> in terminal this is the error im getting from software-center - RedirectLimit: Redirected more times than rediection_limit allows.
[22:15] <sun_devil> for Ubuntu?
[22:15] <imbezol> Bodsda: only from a performance perspective
[22:15] <urlin2u> sun_devil, yum is not supported on this channel no matter where you put it.
[22:15] <darrenfoster1976> could it be a python problem?
[22:16] <acicula> darrenfoster1976: got some funky mirror set?
[22:16] <john_doe_jr> why doesn't my iphone mount any more?
[22:16] <acicula> darrenfoster1976: in software sources
[22:16] <MoleMan> and where would be the best place to find instructions/documentation for setting up and using LVM on ubuntu server?
[22:16] <darrenfoster1976> acicula not that i know of, never played with it... as a noob
[22:16] <Bodsda> imbezol: what does fake give you in terms of features that hardware raid doesnt?
[22:16] <acicula> Bodsda: portability across any kind of hardware
[22:17] <acicula> Bodsda: which is why on server boards the raid bit is replaceable
[22:17] <imbezol> MoleMan: basic instruction.. if both drives were empty.. run pvcreate on both, vgcreate a volume group, vgextend to add teh pv's to the vg, lvcreate to create your volume, mkfs to create a filesystem, then mount
[22:17] <sun_devil> command for ubuntu 10.04 updates
[22:17] <darrenfoster1976> acicula how would i tell?
[22:17] <imbezol> MoleMan: but there are lots of good guides out there. search for lvm2
[22:17] <acicula> darrenfoster1976: type sudo apt-get update in a console, and enter your password
[22:17] <acicula> (when it asks for it)
[22:17] <darrenfoster1976> ok thank you
[22:17] <urlin2u> sun_devil, sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade
[22:17] <meerkats> onlygentoo, f6 anywhere will open alsamixer? I write alsamixer in a terminal and it says its not installed, it doest appear in synaptic either
[22:17] <Bodsda> acicula: what do you mean by portability? you can move the physical disks to another system? Only if it has a similar fakeraid implementation supporting the raid level
[22:17] <sun_devil> ok
[22:18] <acicula> Bodsda: no, hardware raid is tied to a particular raid implementation
[22:18] <acicula> you can not take a set of disks and transplant them to another raid controller and expect it to work
[22:18] <acicula> the controller has to be the same or similar
[22:18] <imbezol> Bodsda: unlimited drives, not being tied to a controller model if it dies, way more features than you'd ever find on a hardware controller, ability to raid things like a google mail account or a cloud storage account, etc etc.. you can do anything with software raid
[22:18] <system32> can anyone help me ?
[22:18] <MoleMan> imbezol: is it possible to set up presuming the system is already running from one of the drives that will be used, or will it be a backup, setup new system, restore. job?
[22:19] <imbezol> Bodsda: hardware raid is straight forward.. if you have 4 ports.. you can raid 4 harddrives together in raid levels supported by the card and that's it
[22:19] <system32> i just got BSOD can anyone help me ?
[22:19] <Bodsda> acicula: imbezol - ah, I see where your going. Fair enough
[22:19] <Bodsda> system32: install linux?
[22:19] <urlin2u> system32, bsod on ubuntu?
[22:19] <acicula> on top of that the hardware raid on consumer motherboards is nothing compared to a proper raid, and so no faster then fakeraid
[22:19] <moonunitzappa> Hello, Can anyone recomend me a MP3 to FLAC converter?
[22:19] <system32> urlin2u: i mean kernel panic
[22:19] <MoleMan> BSOD = windows, this channel = #ubuntu, probably not going to get much help here...
[22:20] <Bodsda> moonunitzappa: ffmpeg should meet your needs
[22:20] <urlin2u> system32, what release?
[22:20] <imbezol> MoleMan: is there space on the drive left or are you using that space as part of the span?
[22:20] <moonunitzappa> ty
[22:20] <system32> urlin2u: kernel 2.6
[22:20] <ActionParsnip> system32: I'd test your RAM using memtest in Grub as a first port of call
[22:21] <urlin2u> system32, it happens on occasion rarely though have yhou rebooted?
[22:21] <urlin2u> you*
[22:21] <meerkats> to what directory do I have to cd to use alsamixer?
[22:22] <SHOVELL> is there a irc chan for scripting
[22:22] <ActionParsnip> meerkats: its in $PATH so just run it
[22:22] <Bodsda> meerkats: you dont, it will run from anywhere
[22:22] <MoleMan> imbezol: the current partition on the drive fills the drive, but it does have about 10GB of free space if I needed to shrink, create the span and then move everything to the new drive, and repeat?
[22:22] <ActionParsnip> meerkats: its like asking the same question but for apt-get instead of alsamixer
[22:22] <hayer> Anyone had problem with pure-ftpd-mysql? Im sure I have the correct username & password, still error 530
[22:22] <darrenfoster1976> acicula i tried the apt-get update and it did update but still same with software centre
[22:23] <system32> urlin2u: when i start firefox it alert me a msg with "owned by teamforce" and then i get kernel panic
[22:23] <imbezol> MoleMan: it's probably possible to do it all online but.. simplest would be to create the new vg with the empty drive.. get booting off it instead, wipe your current drive and add it to the vg after
[22:23] <Bodsda> system32: go and troll somewhere else
[22:23] <system32> im not trolling
[22:23] <acicula> darrenfoster1976: i dont know then what is causing it
[22:23] <meerkats> ActionParsnip, then
[22:23] <meerkats> alsamixer
[22:23] <meerkats> cannot open mixer: No such file or directory
[22:23] <meerkats> root@dexter-M7X0SUN:~#
[22:23] <moonunitzappa> Bodsda, how do i open ffmpeg after i install it?
[22:24] <meerkats> o crap, whats the opposite of sudo -i?
[22:24] <darrenfoster1976> no worries thanks for your help anyway
[22:24] <system32> urlin2u: any ideas?
[22:24] <acicula> meerkats: exit?
[22:24] <ActionParsnip> meerkats: why are you runing it as root?
[22:24] <ActionParsnip> meerkats: run it as your user
[22:24] <urlin2u> system32, not really.
[22:24] <Bodsda> moonunitzappa: its a command line utility. Probably best to google something like 'ffmpeg flac to mp3' to see if someone has posted the exact command somehwere
[22:24] <meerkats> ActionParsnip, to see if it made any difference
[22:24] <SHOVELL> meerkats,  su (your user name)
[22:24] <moonunitzappa> k ty
[22:24] <MoleMan> imbezol: I don't understand.
[22:24] <acicula> SHOVELL: doesnt work
[22:25] <meerkats> where do I get alsamixer from? Its not in synaptic
[22:25] <SHOVELL> acicula,  huh?
[22:25] <MoleMan> imbezol: create a new volume group containing only the new drive, install on that, then wipe the old drive and add to the volume group?
[22:25] <ActionParsnip> moonunitzappa: http://ubuntuhowtos.com/howtos/convert_flac_to_mp3
[22:25] <Bodsda> meerkats: what happens if you type '/usr/bin/alsamixer' ?
[22:25] <acicula> SHOVELL: you cant use su to get root on ubuntu systems, not unless you change the default
[22:25] <urlin2u> meerkats, alsamixer in the terminal
[22:25] <ActionParsnip> moonunitzappa: http://www.simplehelp.net/2008/12/11/how-to-convert-flac-files-to-mp3-using-ubuntu-linux/
[22:26] <SHOVELL> acicula,  he was trying to leave root
[22:26] <ActionParsnip> SHOVELL: yes, and s/he used:  sudo -i  to get the session, so: exit   will end it
[22:26] <meerkats> Bodsda, same: dexter@dexter-M7X0SUN:~$ /usr/bin/alsamixer
[22:26] <meerkats> cannot open mixer: No such file or directory
[22:26] <imbezol> MoleMan: personally what i would do is create a 100 meg partition on the new drive, then another partition that was the rest of the disk.
[22:26] <meerkats> or did I have to cd first?
[22:26] <system32> urlin2u: maybe someone sent me a virus
[22:26] <ActionParsnip> meerkats: can you give the output of: wget -O alsa-info.sh http://www.alsa-project.org/alsa-info.sh; chmod +x ./alsa-info.sh; ./alsa-info.sh
[22:26] <imbezol> MoleMan: then i'd make that 100 meg partition contain /boot
[22:26] <imbezol> MoleMan: then i'd make a volume group out of the second larger partition
[22:27] <moonunitzappa> ty ActionParsnip
[22:27] <imbezol> MoleMan: then i'd create two volumes inside the lvm.. one for swap, one for /
[22:27] <SHOVELL> ActionParsnip, i have done the same thing and the solution i gave worked for me i am sorry
[22:27] <urlin2u> system32, no idea really no known virus's for linux on the web.
[22:27] <imbezol> MoleMan: then i'd boot off a rescue disk (i'd actually do this online but for simplicity...), copy everything from your existing / to the new lvm drive /
[22:27] <bitcycle> Hey all.  Does anyone know where gnome-do pulls its list of executable files?
[22:27] <meerkats> ActionParsnip, HTTP request sent, awaiting response... 200 OK
[22:27] <MoleMan> imbezol: so I'm moving my system to boot from the new volume? how would I do that?
[22:27] <imbezol> MoleMan: at this point you'd have to fix fstab and such on the new drive
[22:28] <urlin2u> system32, not really an area I am confident in really.
[22:28] <imbezol> MoleMan: then boot off the new drive.. then partition the old drive the same as the new drive, mirror /boot with raid 1, and create swap and / space on the old drive in the larger lvm partition
[22:28] <MoleMan> imbezol: I think I'm starting to get a bit too deep for myself and will need to find detailed instructions/someone to walk me through it as I do it :/
[22:28] <imbezol> MoleMan: but this is all going to take some understanding and i don't know if that's a good project for a first time lvm user :)
[22:29] <imbezol> MoleMan: exactly..
[22:29] <ActionParsnip> meerkats: select to upload to the server, a red URL will be gemnerated. What is the URL
[22:29] <jmpdev> should i use srv/www or var/www? what do you guys use?
[22:29] <imbezol> MoleMan: probably best to save that kind of stuff for when you're comfortable
[22:29] <MoleMan> imbezol: /goes back to my comment from earlier about why can't I just have the money to buy a new 1TB drive :P/
[22:29] <ActionParsnip> jmpdev: for what?
[22:29] <Bodsda> jmpdev: the standard is /var/www for a default apache install
[22:30] <jmpdev> ActionParsnip: just web directories
[22:30] <jmpdev> ActionParsnip: and logs, first time using ubuntu for my web server
[22:31] <Bodsda> jmpdev: logs should get automatically stored in /var/log
[22:31] <ActionParsnip> jmpdev: I believe it's /var/www
[22:31] <meerkats> ActionParsnip, i haven t been prompted to choose anything yet, I can only see 2 ip's though: one of them is Resolving git.alsa-project.org... 77.48.224.243
[22:32] <jmpdev> ok i'm set var/www it is, yeah my logs are var/log, but my error logs for the domain are in the web directories
[22:33] <ActionParsnip> meerkats: or try this: cd; wget http://dl.dropbox.com/u/8850924/alsa-info.sh; chmod +x ./alsa-info.sh; ./alsa-info.sh
[22:33] <rainpebble> i have a question
[22:33] <urlin2u> rainpebble, me to it's what your question?
[22:33] <meerkats> ActionParsnip, finally: http://www.alsa-project.org/db/?f=875c1e25dd180721659b9c7efa8e710b61cd8688
[22:33] <urlin2u> what's
[22:34] <rainpebble> why does ubuntu not work well on a lot of machines
[22:34] <rainpebble> i mean it is a beautiful system
[22:34] <rainpebble> but it has a lot of flaws
[22:34] <urlin2u> rainpebble, proof please. :)
[22:34] <CharlieSu> Hi all.  I'm using a preseed file to automate my Ubuntu installation for a bunch of computers.  Everything works wonderfully, but I'm looking for a strategy to give each computer a unique hostname automatically.  Anyone do something like this ever?  Possibly based off of the MAC address?
[22:34] <Wargasm> rainpebble: I disagree
[22:34] <meerkats> I have the feeling i've been here before....
[22:35] <rainpebble> i don't really have "proof" I just know that all the machines I have put ubuntu on, it didn't take long for the cpu to crash
[22:35] <urlin2u> rainpebble, this is really off topic you migh try #ubuntu-offtopic :)
[22:35] <bean> CharlieSu, I had something that did it off of IP address. Let me see if i can find it.
[22:36] <ActionParsnip> meerkats: no alsa driver version isn't good
[22:36] <CharlieSu> bean: thanks.. that would be super helpful
[22:36] <ActionParsnip> meerkats: on the ubuntu sound trouble shooting procedure there is a command to run, try that
[22:36] <rainpebble> thank you
[22:36] <rainpebble> lol
[22:38] <Raymond_> hi
[22:39] <bean> CharlieSu: d-i preseed/late_command string echo node`/target/sbin/ifconfig eth0 | grep inet | cut -d':' -f2 | sed 's/Bcast//g' | cut -d"." -f4 | sed 's/ //g'`.domain.com | /target/usr/bin/tee /target/etc/hostname; sync
[22:40] <bean> CharlieSu, that named a node node<whateverlastOctet>.domain.com
[22:40] <meerkats> ActionParsnip, what if I do: sudo aptitude --purge reinstall linux-sound-base alsa-base alsa-utils linux-image-`uname -r` linux-ubuntu-modules-`uname -r` libasound2
[22:40] <T_H_X> SHOVELL: you could also use a pipe
[22:40] <ActionParsnip> meerkats: use apt-get
[22:41] <meerkats> ActionParsnip, patience with the noob: sudo apt-get --purge reinstall linux-sound-base alsa-base alsa-utils linux-image-`uname -r` linux-ubuntu-modules-`uname -r` libasound2
[22:41] <SHOVELL> T_H_X, i forgot abpot the pipe it is this "|" correct?
[22:43] <ActionParsnip> meerkats: just reinstall the packages using the reinstall part of the command, some of the packages will not exist
[22:45] <bean> CharlieSu, did that help you?
[22:45] <bean> oh, just saw your reply.
[22:45] <bean> np.
[22:45] <bean> or wait, that was the first message.
[22:46] <SmashingX|2> Im using gnome3 on ubuntu and I would like to make the font of the upper bar bigger. Anybody knows how can I do that?
[22:47] <lwizardl> what would be a good gui app for this. I have a directory of files that I downloaded, they came with a sha1 file for the hash testing. What programs would allow me to check all the files in that directory using the sha1
[22:48] <milanoa> hisdf
[22:48] <milanoa> sd
[22:49] <lwizardl> the sha1 file is here http://mirror.fem-net.de/CCC/28C3/mp4-h264-LQ/28c3.mp4.lq.all.sha1
[22:49] <sskalnik> compiling a package for ubuntu. I get this error: "fatal error: linux/compiler.h: No such file or directory". Does the source file need to use the absolute path to compiler.h?
[22:49] <trism> SmashingX|2: in gnome-shell? you need to edit the theme unforunately, gnome-shell.css, and change the font-size in the #panel section, then alt+f2 and rt
[22:50] <SmashingX|2> trism: I think there is a window where I could see the system font where I could change the size of the font but I don't remember where is that
[22:52] <computa_mike> anyone here managed to get wordpress to work?  I've installed it via the Software centre, but i don't know how t set it up....  i've set up wordpress before, but I would have thought a package would have set up databases etc...
[22:52] <MaxHR> Hello, looking for a program that can allow adding text to a pdf, I used Nitro free pdf on Windows, and need a similar featured option
[22:52] <trism> SmashingX|2: gnome-tweak-tool allows you to change fonts for the windows and various defaults, but it won't change the top panel in gnome-shell
[22:52] <hans_henrik> im using gcc version 4.4.3 (Ubuntu 4.4.3-4ubuntu5) and i get errors such as "uint32_t has not been declared" .. what tha? did the ubuntu gcc maintainer suddenly decide to remove support for intXX_t types? isnt this part of the standard gcc package? what gives?
[22:52] <SmashingX|2> trism: then where is that .css file you were talking about?
[22:53] <trism> SmashingX|2: /usr/share/gnome-shell/theme/gnome-shell.css
[22:53] <SmashingX|2> ok
[22:53] <SmashingX|2> thax
[22:54] <glioros> I have some issues on permissions. Basically through SSH I am able to change the permissions but not through FTP. Any ideas why this is happening? The problem begun since I have installed php5mcript and restarted appache
[22:54] <glioros> Also the problem is on one particular domain. the other domains are not affected
[22:55] <malkauns> is there a quick proxy switcher tool for 11.10?
[22:56] <ActionParsnip> !info pdfedit | MaxHR
[22:57] <glioros> ActionParsnip: any ideas on the problem I have ?
[22:58] <Sebastien> Is it possible to request a fun ubuntu cloak for a guest who parks on #ubuntu-qc ? (by a non op)
[22:59] <Oer> Sebastien, ask in #Freenode about cloaks, they can provide you one.
[23:00] <Sebastien> i mean one from the ubuntu project
[23:00] <Sebastien> i have a cloak allready
[23:00] <DerFlash> I've running ubuntu within a virtualbox with 3d accel enabled. using vlc screen:// or ffmpeg's x11grab I'm trying to stream my desktop. problem is, that my minecraft window is black in the stream (because of the openGL?!) :-( any ideas?
[23:00] <Wargasm> anyone know what knotify4 does? it was hogging my cpu and I killed it for now...
[23:01] <Tigerboy> brand new pc with a high end video /cpu and impossible to install 11.10-- 11.04 installs fine. 11.10 cannot even get to grub and recovery mode doesn't work.
[23:01] <DerFlash> ah, btw. runnning 10.04 or so imho
[23:01] <SmashingX|2> trism: Thanks trism! I edited the css file but now I don't see the changes in the size of the font, how can I run the changes
[23:02] <cfhowlett> Wargasm: http://entrenchant.blogspot.com/2011/08/knotify4-uses-100-cpu.html
[23:02] <trism> SmashingX|2: alt+f2 and then type: rt
[23:02] <urlin2u> Tigerboy, not much difference between those releases can you elaborate.
[23:02] <jeremyb> anyone know a nick for grantbow?
[23:02] <Wargasm> thanks cfhowlett
[23:02] <cfhowlett> Wargasm: de nada
[23:03] <SmashingX|2> no spanish!!
[23:03] <SmashingX|2> lol
[23:03] <cis> brb
[23:03] <trism> SmashingX|2: although alt+f2 may be disabled if you haven't enabled it yet in System Settings/Keyboard/Shortcuts
[23:03] <SmashingX|2> no, I can see a box dialog
[23:03] <SmashingX|2> I typed what you told me but nothing
[23:04] <trism> SmashingX|2: hmm, you could try: r
[23:04] <trism> SmashingX|2: which will reload everything, not just the theme
[23:04] <trism> SmashingX|2: what did you set the font-size to?
[23:04] <Wargasm> cfhowlett: it says killall is probably better so I guess I chose the correct option... actually the only one I know till now
[23:05] <urlin2u> Tigerboy, are these installs from a booted ubuntu usb or disc or from windows?
[23:05] <SmashingX|2> trism: 16 pt but I saw the system like restarted but nothing
[23:05] <reCAPTCHA> Hi, is there something special that you need to do to boot ubuntu from a USB live disk on a mac?
[23:05] <trism> SmashingX|2: are you sure you changed it in the #panel {} section?
[23:06] <SmashingX|2> positive
[23:06] <bastidrazor> XXZX
[23:06] <trism> SmashingX|2: hmm, are you using a different gnome-shell theme?
[23:06] <bastidrazor> DGYEF
[23:06] <cfhowlett> Wargasm: looks like a long-term bug.  sorry I don't have a solution but not a programmer
[23:06] <bastidrazor> HTYT
[23:06] <SmashingX|2> trism: Im using adwaita I guess
[23:07] <bastidrazor> BN RTR GV FR URT VFGTGB ,/
[23:07] <reCAPTCHA> I have a macbook with no operating system on it and I want to install ubuntu, do I have to do anything special to do this? It seems that I keep getting errors when trying to boot from a live disk to perform the install.
[23:08] <occupant> hey why are ubuntu kernels so large? what the hell is in there and why isn't it a module?
[23:08] <trism> SmashingX|2: if you didn't install the user-theme extension, then you probably just have the default, hmm
[23:08] <acicula> reCAPTCHA: yes there are a few particulars to installing ubuntu on mac hardware. i  think the ubuntu wiki has a guide on how to do it
[23:08] <SmashingX|2> trism: I don't know whatever I think I can live with ver small font lol
[23:08] <bastidrazor> ABCDEFGHIJKLMNOPQRSTUVWXYZ/
[23:09] <SmashingX|2> trism: thanks anyway
[23:09] <bastidrazor> /ABCDEFGHIJKLMNOPQRSTUVWXYZ/
[23:10] <libryder> i'm trying to figure out what repo i need to add to my sources to enable lame and libmp3lame0, anyone can help?
[23:11] <urlin2u> !ops | bastidrazor
[23:11] <libryder> got it
[23:13] <Wargasm> cfhowlett: no problem, short term solution is better than no solution
[23:13] <reCAPTCHA> I get this error when trying to boot an ubuntu live disk on my macbook: (initramfs) mount: mounting /dev/loop0 on //filesystem.squashfs failed: input/output error
[23:15] <ActionParsnip> reCAPTCHA: did you MD5 test the ISO you downloaded? Did you burn the CD as slowly as possible?
[23:15] <reCAPTCHA> No and no... and I burned to a DVD.
[23:15] <ActionParsnip> reCAPTCHA: then how did you know the ISO was complete and error free?
[23:15] <reCAPTCHA> It works just fine on every normal computer, but the mac chokes.
[23:16] <ActionParsnip> reCAPTCHA: is the RAM healthy? There is a memtester on the disk
[23:16] <Mr> hello???
[23:16] <Mr> anyone in here awake???
[23:16] <Mr> ;)
[23:16] <Mr> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
[23:16] <FloodBot1> Mr: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[23:16] <Mr> ping
[23:16] <Mr> http://www.youtube.com
[23:16] <Mr> hello?
[23:17] <^zenyhooubbyit> XD
[23:17] <^zenyhooubbyit> hey
[23:17] <Mr> ahh there everyone is
[23:17] <Mr> i just installed ubuntu 11.10 and need a little help
[23:17] <^zenyhooubbyit> not really XD
[23:18] <^zenyhooubbyit> in bed...
[23:18] <MikZyth> Hi all!  )
[23:18] <^zenyhooubbyit> what u need?
[23:18] <ActionParsnip> Mr: instead of spamming the channel with nonesense, why not just ask your question...
[23:18] <Mr> are there any free VPn's?
[23:18] <reCAPTCHA> ActionParsnip: it had no issues up until I formatted the hard drive.
[23:18] <lmaowaff1e> any of you running wine and steam and cs 1.6 on oneiric 64bit? was it easy to configure?
[23:19] <lmaowaff1e> (and have you tried running cs:s?)
[23:19] <ActionParsnip> reCAPTCHA: did you have zero issues in Ubuntu?
[23:19] <computa_mike> mr: OpenVPN?
[23:19] <ActionParsnip> imbezol: the appdb has a decent guide how to install it, did you check that?
[23:19] <Mr> i had that , is it good?
[23:19] <ActionParsnip> !vpn | Mr
[23:19] <reCAPTCHA> ActionParsnip: Sorry, I don't follow.
[23:20] <reCAPTCHA> ActionParsnip: OSX was the only OS on the machine, and I fomatted the drive.
[23:20] <ActionParsnip> reCAPTCHA: before you formatted the drive, what OS were you running?
[23:20] <ActionParsnip> reCAPTCHA: mac OS may have a mechanism for managing bad ram
[23:20] <lmaowaff1e> - also, how do i get a plain text grub menu in oneiric. I think whatever modeset and bootsplash is used on my system results in a gray box with no text where a menu usually is. I can actually press enter then to skip the boot countdown, so I'm assuming it's the graphical menu
[23:20] <ActionParsnip> reCAPTCHA: if you get any issues with the installer its good to test the ram, even briefly as the installer runs entirely in ram
[23:21] <reCAPTCHA> ActionParsnip: could you direct me as to how to do that?
[23:21] <ActionParsnip> lmaowaff1e: hold shift at boot and you will see the grub menu
[23:21] <ActionParsnip> reCAPTCHA: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MemoryTest
[23:21] <lmaowaff1e> ActionParsnip: is there a way to make that permanent?
[23:22] <lmaowaff1e> so the old school grub-legacy text menu?
[23:22] <reCAPTCHA> ActionParsnip: FYI, it boots Fedora alright.
[23:22] <bananenkampf-de> YEEEAR!
[23:22] <ActionParsnip> lmaowaff1e: if you edit /etc/default/grub  and add it in the quotes with:  quiet splash   save the new file and run:  sudo update-grub
[23:22] <ActionParsnip> reCAPTCHA: then definately test the ISO you downloaded
[23:22] <ActionParsnip> reCAPTCHA: and make the CD test itself
[23:23] <reCAPTCHA> ActionParsnip: I'll try burning at a lower speed as well.
[23:25] <lmaowaff1e> ActionParsnip: thank you very much
[23:26] <Mr> yello?
[23:26] <ActionParsnip> lmaowaff1e: np man
[23:26] <ActionParsnip> reCAPTCHA: it makes a better image on the disk and reduces errors due to jitter
[23:27] <ActionParsnip> reCAPTCHA: burning fast probably saves 60 seconds of actual time too, burning bootable media slow helps a lot
[23:27] <recon_lap> ActionParsnip: hi there, seems like a rerun of last night,
[23:28] <reCAPTCHA> ActionParsnip: Thanks, it's an older computer too, so maybe I should consider a lighter distro like Mint over 10.04?
[23:28] <someone235> hi, i'm doing a disto upgrade to my ubuntu server from 9.04 to 11.10, and it's stuck for more than half hour in "Setting up libstdc++6 (4.4.3-4ubuntu5) ...". you've got any ideas what should i do?
[23:28] <Mr> can anyone recommend any good beginner linux/ubuntu websites???
[23:30] <phillw> Mr the ubuntu guide is worth downloading (pdf)
[23:30] <Mr> where do i get it?
[23:30] <phillw> Mr I'm just getting the link...
[23:30] <recon_lap> someone235: not sure upgrading from 9.04 straight to 11.10 the best idea, but dont know for sure
[23:31] <PinoMino> hey can someone help me ?
[23:31] <someone235> recon_lap, it's too late. what can i do?
[23:31] <Mr> ubuntuguide.org???
[23:31] <PinoMino> so can someone help me?
[23:32] <Mavrick95> hello everyone! :-)
[23:32] <ActionParsnip> recon_lap: use Lubuntu 11.04 and you'll be fine :)
[23:32] <Mr> whats up PINO?
[23:32] <aBound> PinoMino, How can we help you without you telling us what the problem is?
[23:32] <ActionParsnip> Mr: use tab to complete nicks ;)
[23:32] <PinoMino> well i cant instal enything on ubuntu
[23:32] <aBound> PinoMino, What you mean install everything or anything?
[23:32] <Mr> what are yo utrying to install?
[23:33] <urlin2u> PinoMino, what is anything?
[23:33] <ActionParsnip> someone235: is the CPU being used a lot? You will need to upgrade to 9.10 first, then to 10.04 and so on
[23:33] <PinoMino> well vlc player
[23:33] <ActionParsnip> someone235: upgrading directly from Jaunty to Oneiric isn't supported
[23:33] <aBound> PinoMino, What version of Ubuntu are you currently running on?
[23:33] <PinoMino> hmm
[23:33] <PinoMino>  :D i dont really know w
[23:34] <someone235> ActionParsnip, my mistake. got karmic, not jaunty
[23:34] <ActionParsnip> PinoMino: can you give a pastebin of:  lsb_release -a; sudo apt-get install vlc
[23:34] <Mavrick95> urlin2u: hello, how are you?
[23:34] <someone235> ActionParsnip, how can i upgrade separately?
[23:34] <ActionParsnip> someone235: you'll need to upgrade to Lucid first
[23:34] <ActionParsnip> !upgrade | someone235
[23:35] <phillw> Mr http://ubuntu-manual.org/
[23:35] <aBound> PinoMino, Open a terminal and type: cat /etc/issue
[23:35] <ActionParsnip> someone235: once you get to Lucid, you can jump directly to Precise if you want (LTS to LTS upgrades ARE supported)
[23:35] <aBound> It will tell you which version of Ubuntu you're running.
[23:35] <Mr> thanks phillw
[23:35] <ActionParsnip> someone235: personally I would just clean install Oneiric, you'll get a cleaner OS and faster
[23:35] <aBound> ActionParsnip, Agreed.
[23:35] <urlin2u> Mavrick95, good, you?
[23:35] <Jordan_U> reCAPTCHA: If the CD/DVD turns out to be burned OK, then the problem is probably that (for whatever reason) the kernel isn't able to access the CD/DVD drive hardware. This can be worked around by using the minimal iso, which downloads all packages during install (and has an ugly, but not particularly hard to use, installer).
[23:35] <someone235> ActionParsnip, i did "do-release-upgrade"
[23:36] <Mavrick95> does anyone know the release date (probable) for the next  Ubuntu LTS?
[23:36] <someone235> ActionParsnip, it upgrade all at once, or with stages?
[23:36] <recon_lap> someone235: it's a good idea to put you home directory on it own partition, then upgrades are a lot easier
[23:36] <aBound> Mavrick95, The say around April.
[23:36] <aBound> They**
[23:36] <darrenfoster1976> ok guys so i have a bummed install of ubuntu 11.04 anyone know if its possible to do a repair install?
[23:36] <ActionParsnip> Mavrick95: April this year is all we know for sure
[23:36] <Mavrick95> aBound: thanks
[23:36] <aBound> No problem.
[23:37] <Ben64> we know more than that
[23:37] <Mavrick95> i just hope they fix the major bugs in 11.10, i had some issues with unity dash
[23:37] <Ben64> April 26th is release day
[23:38] <ActionParsnip> we'll see. I bet it gets put back a little
[23:38] <PinoMino> Could not download all repository indexes i got this problem
[23:38] <Ben64> October 18th for 12.10
[23:38] <someone235> ActionParsnip, my mistake, i've upgraded to 10.04. do i need to restart b4 the next upgrade?
[23:38] <Ben64> April 25th for 13.04, October 17th for 13.10, etc
[23:38] <ActionParsnip> someone235: I would, to make sure all is well
[23:39] <glioros> Guys I am not able to change permissions. Can anyone have a look at the ls -la results?
[23:39] <Ben64> !pastebin | glioros
[23:39] <roxdragon> hi all.. we know API's imagebin or ubuntu pastebin?
[23:39] <ActionParsnip> glioros: are the files on NTFS?
[23:39] <aBound> PinoMino, If you're running 11.10 and/or 10.04.3 LTS you can use the software center to install VLC. If you're using an older version that doesn't get updated anymore not much I can do.
[23:39] <roxdragon> i'm developing an software
[23:40] <ActionParsnip> PinoMino: can you give a pastebin of the output as I requested, please
[23:40] <glioros> ActionParsnip: Please have a look http://pastebin.com/uhvDG8A7 . The main folder is fititis2
[23:40] <Mavrick95> Ben64: thanks, i will waiting for the next release
[23:40] <glioros> Using the ssh I can change the permissions but not through ftp access
[23:40] <PinoMino> whel i just started useing linux so im new her i dont really know what it is..
[23:41] <Mavrick95> Ben64: had enough with 11.10 >:(
[23:41] <Mr> me to pino
[23:41] <Ben64> Mavrick95: you can already upgrade to 12.04, but it might not work how you want
[23:41] <glioros> SO if httpdocs is drwxrwxrwx 21 fititis2 psaserv 4096 Feb  4 22:49 why I cant change permissions through ftp?
[23:41] <ActionParsnip> PinoMino: copy the text and go to: http://pastie.org   paste the text there and hit PASTE, when the page changes, copy the new url of the page and paste here
[23:42] <ActionParsnip> PinoMino: you can use pastebins in Windows. They are not just used in Linux, so being new to Ubuntu is moot
[23:42] <aBound> Moot. lol
[23:42] <recon_lap> I tend to stick with the lts releases, hope unity gets more configurable before 12.04
[23:42] <aBound> :P
[23:42] <recon_lap> or is that 13.04
[23:43] <ActionParsnip> recon_lap: if you don't like unity you don't have to use it...
[23:43] <PinoMino> i dont see eny text there
[23:43] <Mavrick95> Ben64: how actually does this "LTS" releases works? they are more stable, more time for official support, and that is it?
[23:43] <recon_lap> gnome3 is nearly as annoying
[23:43] <aBound> recon_lap, There's alternatives like gnome-shell and various GUIs/window managers.
[23:43] <Ben64> i had to dump unity on my laptop, which is on 12.04, but theres a lot more graphical issues than just unity
[23:43] <aBound> :P
[23:43] <ActionParsnip> PinoMino: run:  lsb_release -a; sudo apt-get install vlc    copy ALL of the output
[23:43] <PinoMino> ohh ok :}
[23:43] <Ben64> Mavrick95: they are supported longer, less experimental features and things like that
[23:43] <ActionParsnip> recon_lap: Unity is a shell for Gnome3...
[23:44] <StormTide> is tasksel the best way to convert a ubuntu desktop install into a no-gui server install ?
[23:44] <StormTide> or removing ubuntu-desktop package via apt
[23:44] <ActionParsnip> recon_lap: Ubuntu Oneiric uses Gnome3 by default
[23:44] <glioros> ActionParsnip: Do you think it might be because of the appache user ?
[23:44] <ActionParsnip> StormTide: I suggest you add the boot option: text    it's less destructive
[23:44] <recon_lap> ActionParsnip: think i tried gnome-shell, could not configure destop much , then i tried mint , then i went back to 10.04
[23:44] <ActionParsnip> glioros: no idea dude, sorry
[23:45] <StormTide> ActionParsnip, its a fresh install i did from the alternate installer, i just screwed up and forgot to hit f4
[23:45] <ActionParsnip> recon_lap: tried XFCE, LXDE, KDE, E17 ....?
[23:45] <StormTide> so if it breaks something, thats ok too
[23:45] <ActionParsnip> StormTide: doesn't break anything, just doesn't load the GUI ;)
[23:45] <Ben64> recon_lap: yeah they killed customizability
[23:45] <Vako> guys im having this issue while doing apt-get update
[23:45] <Vako> http://paste.ubuntu.com/834623/
[23:45] <StormTide> ActionParsnip, i want to actually remove the packages if thats possible
[23:45] <ActionParsnip> recon_lap: you do know that Gnome is not the only desktop environment...right?
[23:45] <StormTide> tasksel used to be able to do this... but havent used it in a long time
[23:46] <PinoMino> edgaras@Edgaras-laptop:~$ sudo lsb_release-a
[23:46] <PinoMino> [sudo] password for edgaras:
[23:46] <PinoMino> sudo: lsb_release-a: command not found
[23:46] <PinoMino> edgaras@Edgaras-laptop:~$ sudo apt-get install vlc
[23:46] <PinoMino> Reading package lists... Done
[23:46] <PinoMino> Building dependency tree
[23:46] <PinoMino> Reading state information... Done
[23:46] <FloodBot1> PinoMino: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[23:46] <roxdragon> lol
[23:46] <Vako> anyone?
[23:46] <ActionParsnip> PinoMino: use the site I said, I was quite clear
[23:46] <roxdragon> PinoMino, are u italian?
[23:47] <ActionParsnip> Vako: sudo apt-key adv --recv-key --keyserver keyserver.ubuntu.com 40976EAF437D05B5
[23:47] <PinoMino> ohh yea :D
[23:47] <roxdragon> i am italian XD
[23:47] <Ben64> StormTide: http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/purexfce
[23:47] <Steevca> Can i install ubuntu netbook on my desktop?
[23:47] <ActionParsnip> Vako: have patience child,
[23:47] <Ben64> StormTide: follow the steps for your version, and just omit the last step of installing xubuntu
[23:47] <cfhowlett> Steevca: netbook has been discontined
[23:47] <recon_lap> ActionParsnip , i'm just waiting and hope it's better in 13.04
[23:47] <Steevca> cfhowlett Oh. :(
[23:48] <recon_lap> 10.04 works great
[23:48] <Vako> still ActionParsnip
[23:48] <Ben64> recon_lap: that it does
[23:48] <cfhowlett> Steevca: just install ubuntu
[23:48] <ActionParsnip> recon_lap: I'd just switch desktop. XFCE is a lot like Gnome2 and you can run all your Gnome apps there
[23:48] <roxdragon> PinoMino, che problema hai?
[23:48] <StormTide> ben64 cool, thx... will this update grub etc safely?
[23:48] <Ben64> recon_lap: this is what i want in 12.04 http://www.ben64.com/customize.png
[23:48] <cfhowlett> Steevca: or try a different flavor: lubuntu xubuntu
[23:48] <ActionParsnip> PinoMino: can you make a PASTEBIN using: http://pastie.org  and we can advise
[23:48] <Ben64> StormTide: it has nothing to do with grub
[23:48] <Vako> i did that and the same error comes at the end ActionParsnip
[23:49] <Steevca> cfhowlett I want a netbook os because on pc i mostly use internet.
[23:49] <sam555> hello all
[23:49] <Pete-Umbra> Guys, I need help... When I try to burn fedora into a CD, I get asked if I want to burn as file or as content, and when I click on the content button, the file-browser (nautilus?) crushes. :(
[23:49] <PinoMino> yea im trying, but the page always is loading :/
[23:49] <sam555> what is the command to show the entire path you are at?
[23:49] <Steevca> I have windows so i want to make dual boot.
[23:49] <Mr> should i install a anit virus?
[23:49] <cfhowlett> Steevca: what's your hardware??
[23:49] <Vako> Pete-Umbra this is ununtu chan not fedora :)
[23:49] <Ben64> !virus | Mr
[23:49] <Pete-Umbra> Vako: Yeah, but I'm using Ubuntu
[23:49] <Pete-Umbra> to burn this.
[23:49] <recon_lap> ActionParsnip: tried xfce, it's the desktop in mint, but i'm odd and like my toolbar vertical on the left of screen
[23:50] <Mr> ok cool thanks
[23:50] <Ben64> Pete-Umbra: use k3b
[23:50] <Steevca> cfhowlett It's really old,But AMD Athlon 2200+,Ati Radeon 9550,1gb of ram.
[23:50] <Steevca> If you need more tell me.
[23:50] <qo_op> a good screen recorder for ubuntu?
[23:50] <Vako> crap cant fin a fix for this error/bug
[23:50] <cfhowlett> Steevca: try a lighter ubuntu then: lubuntu or xubuntu should make that puppy dance...
[23:50] <ActionParsnip> recon_lap: if you got used to Unity then use it I guess, or you could make your own using xfpanel and so on
[23:50] <cfhowlett> qo_op: recordmydesktop
[23:51] <ActionParsnip> qo_op: recordmydesktop and xvwincap exist
[23:51] <ActionParsnip> qo_op: omgubuntu have another but I forgot its name
[23:51] <recon_lap> ActionParsnip: hell no i did not get used to unity, I stuck with 10.04
[23:51] <Steevca> cfhowlett Ok,but i am kinda having a problem with my network adapter and i can't get it to work.
[23:51] <cfhowlett> Steevca: you mean wifi?
[23:52] <Steevca> cfhowlett Nope,i have a wired connection.
[23:52] <ActionParsnip> recon_lap: same kinda deal :)
[23:52] <Steevca> Ethernet cable.
[23:52] <ActionParsnip> recon_lap: just no compiz muck messing things up :)
[23:52] <qo_op> ActionParsnip, eidete?
[23:52] <cfhowlett> Steevca: what buntu do you have right now?
[23:52] <danny_> does an iphone work well with ubuntu ? im getting one tomrrow and am wondering if i will have to boot up my windows side for my ipod
[23:53] <Vako> ActionParsnip any other fix?
[23:53] <danny_> iphone*
[23:53] <cfhowlett> !evil|danny_
[23:53] <Steevca> cfhowlett None,i uninstalled it today because i lost all nervs trying to get it to work. :S
[23:53] <recon_lap> http://imagebin.org/198000 :-D
[23:53] <danny_> cfhowlett, ? whats evil ?
[23:53] <cfhowlett> Steevca: so your windows network manager is acting up?
[23:54] <cfhowlett> !ipod
[23:54] <cfhowlett> danny_: sorry didn't know the /irc trigger
[23:54] <qo_op> danny_,  i use XP in Vbox to sync iphod whit computer, but ubuntu works grate to backup pics from iphone
[23:54] <telnetter> can I install ubuntu onto a 4GB usb drive (real install, not liveusb?). If so, whats the best way?
[23:54] <ActionParsnip> Vako: the key isn't essential, just nice to have, search for the GPG code online, you may find guides
[23:55] <danny_> qu_op, so it is gonna be a hassel ?
[23:55] <cfhowlett> !mini|telnetter
[23:55] <Steevca> cfhowlett In windows xp it's working like a charm,but not in linuks,i have tryed JoliOS,Ubuntu and Fedora with no luck.
[23:55] <recon_lap> ActionParsnip: yep, none of the fancy wiggly windows muck for me
[23:55] <qo_op> telnetter, boot up a live cd and install it on USB?
[23:55] <maujhsn> Trying to copy a newly downloaded folder to a new folder location what are the commands to do this?
[23:55] <ActionParsnip> Vako: could try this script: http://dl.dropbox.com/u/8850924/fixpackage
[23:55] <cfhowlett> Steevca:  make/model of computer
[23:55] <ActionParsnip> recon_lap: openbox here (LXDE WM :D )
[23:56] <Steevca> cfhowlett Can you explane i don't understand.Sorry.
[23:56] <ericus> aaaaaaah this is driving me crazy
 thnaks. just wanting to be sure. it says you need 4.7GB to install
[23:56] <ericus> my ISP is having problems
[23:56] <hexacode> how do i type special unicode chars in ubuntu...someone said to hold alt and press numbers but it doesnt seem to work
[23:56] <cfhowlett> Steevca: what is the make and model of the computer you want to use ubuntu with
[23:56] <ericus> supposed to be fixed at 02.00
[23:56] <ericus> just one more hour then...
[23:56] <hypnocat> let's say i have a qemu hard drive image... how would i go about turning that in to a bootable iso?
[23:56] <hypnocat> does anyone have any suggestions of documentation i could read or programs i could use?
[23:56] <Steevca> cfhowlett It's an pentium 4 if you mean that.
[23:57] <haux> Does anyone know how to remove all printer drivers from Ubuntu?
[23:57] <ericus> I've tried several DNS servers, so that's not the problem
[23:57] <qo_op> telnetter, havent tryed it whit ubuntu 11.10 but i did install full versjon of anohter ubuntu based os on a ssh
[23:57] <ActionParsnip> ericus: can you ping 8.8.8.8?
[23:57] <ericus> ActionParsnip: the google DNS?
[23:57] <ericus> yes
[23:57] <ericus> ActionParsnip: It's not a DNS problem
[23:57] <ActionParsnip> ericus: can you ping bbc.co.uk ?
[23:57] <ericus> my ISP has some problems
[23:58] <cfhowlett> Steevca: okay, so a bit older machine.  I suggest xubuntu
[23:58] <ActionParsnip> ericus: then its external to your OS isn't it
[23:58] <recon_lap> ActionParsnip: my problem with xfce was i could not put the tootbar vertically on the right , and the spellchecker did not seem to be integrated into text boxes
[23:58] <Steevca> cfhowlett Can you tell me what is the main diference betwen ubuntu and xubuntu.
[23:59] <ericus> ActionParsnip: yeah my ISP has some kind of problems
[23:59] <cfhowlett> recon_lap: panel-preferences vertical.  Drag to right side.
 I'll try the minimal cd like ubottu (thanks ubottu, even though you are only a bot!) said to do.
[23:59] <ActionParsnip> ericus: then you'll have to wait
[23:59] <cfhowlett> Steevca: x/l/buntu are both lightweight distros intended for lower specification machines.  xubuntu has been around a bit longer is and arguably more developed and better supported.
[23:59] <ActionParsnip> ericus: could try rebooting the router
[23:59] <ericus> I know ActionParsnip :(