[00:50] hello everyone [00:51] hey ScottL [00:52] hi knome , sorry i haven't been actively lately [00:52] hi ScottL [00:52] hi micahg [00:52] ScottL, np, i understand [01:25] ScottL: I will make a point of reviewing the low latency kernel by no later than this weekend, maybe one night this week if I get a chance, but the weekend for sure. [01:26] I haven't forgotten, just swamped with other work and life stuff. [01:26] TheMuso, oh, that is capital news :) [01:26] reviewing the kernel, not that you are swamped :P [01:27] TheMuso, any suggestions on who might be the other person to review the kernel? [01:27] i doubt i'll get much response from #ubuntu-motu, but i think it's either them or someone from UKT [01:28] i'll probably form a squad of us to start pestering a group of MOTU and UKT until someone breaks and does it :P [01:28] lol [01:31] has anyone kept up with the new version of mudita24? did it make it into our repos yet? does it fix the missing .desktop file? [01:32] ScottL, hurrah! (in the voice of stephen fry) -> http://status.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-precise/group/topic-precise-flavor-xubuntu.html [01:47] knome, wow, congrats! that is outstanding [01:47] i am a little afraid to look at ours now :/ [01:47] it looks relatively good too :) [01:48] still below the mainline [01:51] ScottL: kernel team will help for functional review, but not uploading [01:54] i'm off to bed [01:54] night [01:55] ScottL: todays iso has something funny with the themes. Both ubiquity and the PA volume control are black on black [01:55] Black text and black background [01:56] micahg, that is good information [01:56] micahg, i presume that means they cannot "approve" the package as a 2nd MOTU? [01:57] ScottL: if you find a UKT member who's a MOTU, sure :) [01:57] i might presume too much, but i would expect TheMuso would help with the direct uploading [01:57] ScottL: a new package needs and ACK from 2 MOTUs or core-devs [01:57] oh, crap, i was going to say something to len :( [01:57] s/and/an/ [01:57] micahg meant: "ScottL: a new package needs an ACK from 2 MOTUs or core-devs" [01:58] micahg, i believe TheMuso is a core-dev and he has committed to reviewing the package [01:59] ScottL: right, so, you need 1 more :) [01:59] given the nature of the package (i.e. a kernel package), i'm just worried about finding the other required person [01:59] Len-1204, ack'd about the colors, it's probably something i did and need to fix :/ [02:01] * micahg took a cursory look and it needed lintian fixes [02:02] Ok. Seems to affect very few apps. Just the two so far. [02:04] micahg, i am aware of the lintian issues, some i can readily fix, others that i'm not sure if i need to or not [02:04] micahg, e.g. the mismatch in section and missing .tar (or similar) [02:04] i'll look again so i can be specific [02:06] well, don't prepend universe to the section [02:07] * micahg would have to look again to do a better review [02:08] ScottL: just ask if there's something you're not sure how to fix [02:12] micahg, i will, thank you :) [02:12] it probably won't be until this weekend before i can look at it again though [02:13] micahg, should i increment the version number or use 'dput -f' when i update it? [02:20] ScottL: dput -f works for REVU [02:20] micahg, can i download the source from REVU? [02:21] I think you can dget it from there [02:21] okay, i'll see about that later in the week then [22:09] Interesting.. pulse seems to work differently in a live dvd session than after installed. [22:10] It seems that starting jack in a live session makes PA crash. But not after install. [22:11] So far this has not mattered as PA needs to be restarted to work anyway. [22:21] Is Pure Data all there? are we missing the docs or data part? [22:23] couldn't open "/usr/lib/puredata/doc/1.manual/1.introduction.txt": no such file or directory [23:31] quadrispro, how can i manage to get better jack settings by default in a ubuntu studio install? [23:31] quadrispro, i mean when it is installed? [23:31] Len-live, i can't answer about pure data, as i know very little about it [23:32] Len-live, but i want to to do some testing on the live dvd this week, especially about the jack-pulse integration [23:32] ScottL, which settings in particular do you want to tune? [23:32] quadrispro, the frames per second, something else that i have written down but can't remember currently [23:32] holstein, do you remember the settings? i'll look at the blueprint [23:33] open question to the channel: are there structural changes you would like to see in the current menu? [23:35] falktx__, do you remember the jack settings we discussed previously? [23:35] ScottL: I know very little about PD too, that was why I was trying the docs .. [23:35] ScottL, usually these settings get passed to jack by the program (user interface, cli wrapper, whatever) you use to run jackd [23:35] quadrispro, my understanding is that jack will create the .jackrc file in the home directory [23:36] quadrispro, we can create that file during installation of the OS [23:36] ScottL, yes, .jackdrc [23:36] quadrispro, my concern is that i would want to limit this in case a user installed the package AFTER the OS installation and it overwrites the existing .jackrc file [23:37] mm [23:37] i am trying to avoid from messing around with a user's existing /home directory and settings they would want (in case they erroneously installed this package) [23:37] either way, per-user .jackdrc file usually overrides system-wide config [23:38] however, let me have a look [23:38] quadrispro, hmmm, i didn't know there was two files [23:38] That file is just a jackd command line. The one I see in the live dvd is [23:38] /usr/bin/jackd -dalsa -dhw:0 -r44100 -p1024 -n2 [23:39] Len-live, good point, i am actually talking about what settings qjackctl will use [23:39] quadrispro, ^^^^ [23:39] I am not sure if it was there or got put there by jackd or qjackctl [23:39] ScottL: 44100 sample rate, 512 buffer size, 2 nperiods [23:39] quadrispro, ^^^ those are the settings [23:39] falktx__, thank you again :) [23:40] sure [23:41] I am using PA->jackd right now to listen to music. It works, but jackd needs to be running before PA starts or PA needs to have alsa shut off. [23:42] I found the stock PA level out seems quite high. The Jack meter bridge pins with PA input. [23:45] I think qjackctl will read ~/.jackdrc and write it when setup is oked. [23:46] Or maybe just before it starts jackd. [23:48] yes, those settings [23:48] ScottL, I should find some time to investigate further [23:48] I have several bugs now to fix [23:49] quadrispro, it's not a rush, i was hoping to get this done in the next month or two, if that is acceptable to your schedule [23:51] Len-live, are you using qjackctl to start jack or command line? [23:51] qjackctl will most likely invovle pasuspender first [23:54] I use qjackctl. It does not seem to suspend PA. [23:54] ScottL ^^^ (keep forgetting) [23:56] Len-live, it's the menu entry (from the .desktop file i believe) that first calls pasuspender and then qjackctl [23:56] at least it used to, david h. might have changed that alrzdy [23:56] ScottL, weh, ok, please don't forget to ping later [23:58] sure :)