[00:50] <ScottL> hello everyone
[00:51] <knome> hey ScottL 
[00:52] <ScottL> hi knome , sorry i haven't been actively lately
[00:52] <micahg> hi ScottL
[00:52] <ScottL> hi micahg 
[00:52] <knome> ScottL, np, i understand
[01:25] <TheMuso> ScottL: I will make a point of reviewing the low latency kernel by no later than this weekend, maybe one night this week if I get a chance, but the weekend for sure.
[01:26] <TheMuso> I haven't forgotten, just swamped with other work and life stuff.
[01:26] <ScottL> TheMuso, oh, that is capital news :)
[01:26] <ScottL> reviewing the kernel, not that you are swamped :P
[01:27] <ScottL> TheMuso, any suggestions on who might be the other person to review the kernel?
[01:27] <ScottL> i doubt i'll get much response from #ubuntu-motu, but i think it's either them or someone from UKT
[01:28] <ScottL> i'll probably form a squad of us to start pestering a group of MOTU and UKT until someone breaks and does it :P
[01:28] <knome> lol
[01:31] <ScottL> has anyone kept up with the new version of mudita24?  did it make it into our repos yet?  does it fix the missing .desktop file?
[01:32] <knome> ScottL, hurrah! (in the voice of stephen fry) -> http://status.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-precise/group/topic-precise-flavor-xubuntu.html
[01:47] <ScottL> knome, wow, congrats!  that is outstanding
[01:47] <ScottL> i am a little afraid to look at ours now :/
[01:47] <knome> it looks relatively good too :)
[01:48] <knome> still below the mainline
[01:51] <micahg> ScottL: kernel team will help for functional review, but not uploading
[01:54] <knome> i'm off to bed
[01:54] <knome> night
[01:55] <Len-1204> ScottL: todays iso has something funny with the themes. Both ubiquity and the PA volume control are black on black
[01:55] <Len-1204> Black text and black background
[01:56] <ScottL> micahg, that is good information
[01:56] <ScottL> micahg, i presume that means they cannot "approve" the package as a 2nd MOTU?
[01:57] <micahg> ScottL: if you find a UKT member who's a MOTU, sure :)
[01:57] <ScottL> i might presume too much, but i would expect TheMuso would help with the direct uploading
[01:57] <micahg> ScottL: a new package needs and ACK from 2 MOTUs or core-devs
[01:57] <ScottL> oh, crap, i was going to say something to len :(
[01:57] <micahg> s/and/an/
[01:57] <kubotu> micahg meant: "ScottL: a new package needs an ACK from 2 MOTUs or core-devs"
[01:58] <ScottL> micahg, i believe TheMuso is a core-dev and he has committed to reviewing the package
[01:59] <micahg> ScottL: right, so, you need 1 more :)
[01:59] <ScottL> given the nature of the package (i.e. a kernel package), i'm just worried about finding the other required person
[01:59] <ScottL> Len-1204, ack'd about the colors, it's probably something i did and need to fix :/
[02:01]  * micahg took a cursory look and it needed lintian fixes
[02:02] <Len-1204> Ok. Seems to affect very few apps. Just the two so far.
[02:04] <ScottL> micahg, i am aware of the lintian issues, some i can readily fix, others that i'm not sure if i need to or not
[02:04] <ScottL> micahg, e.g. the mismatch in section and missing .tar (or similar)
[02:04] <ScottL> i'll look again so i can be specific
[02:06] <micahg> well, don't prepend universe to the section
[02:07]  * micahg would have to look again to do a better review
[02:08] <micahg> ScottL: just ask if there's something you're not sure how to fix
[02:12] <ScottL> micahg, i will, thank you :)
[02:12] <ScottL> it probably won't be until this weekend before i can look at it again though
[02:13] <ScottL> micahg, should i increment the version number or use 'dput -f' when i update it?
[02:20] <micahg> ScottL: dput -f works for REVU
[02:20] <ScottL> micahg, can i download the source from REVU?
[02:21] <micahg> I think you can dget it from there
[02:21] <ScottL> okay, i'll see about that later in the week then
[22:09] <Len-live> Interesting.. pulse seems to work differently in a live dvd session than after installed.
[22:10] <Len-live> It seems that starting jack in a live session makes PA crash. But not after install.
[22:11] <Len-live> So far this has not mattered as PA needs to be restarted to work anyway.
[22:21] <Len-live> Is Pure Data all there? are we missing the docs or data part?
[22:23] <Len-live> couldn't open "/usr/lib/puredata/doc/1.manual/1.introduction.txt": no such file or directory
[23:31] <ScottL> quadrispro, how can i manage to get better jack settings by default in a ubuntu studio install?
[23:31] <ScottL> quadrispro, i mean when it is installed?
[23:31] <ScottL> Len-live, i can't answer about pure data, as i know very little about it
[23:32] <ScottL> Len-live, but i want to to do some testing on the live dvd this week, especially about the jack-pulse integration
[23:32] <quadrispro> ScottL, which settings in particular do you want to tune?
[23:32] <ScottL> quadrispro, the frames per second, something else that i have written down but can't remember currently
[23:32] <ScottL> holstein, do you remember the settings?  i'll look at the blueprint
[23:33] <ScottL> open question to the channel:  are there structural changes you would like to see in the current menu?
[23:35] <ScottL> falktx__, do you remember the jack settings we discussed previously?
[23:35] <Len-live> ScottL: I know very little about PD too, that was why I was trying the docs ..
[23:35] <quadrispro> ScottL, usually these settings get passed to jack by the program (user interface, cli wrapper, whatever) you use to run jackd
[23:35] <ScottL> quadrispro, my understanding is that jack will create the .jackrc file in the home directory
[23:36] <ScottL> quadrispro, we can create that file during installation of the OS
[23:36] <quadrispro> ScottL, yes, .jackdrc
[23:36] <ScottL> quadrispro, my concern is that i would want to limit this in case a user installed the package AFTER the OS installation and it overwrites the existing .jackrc file
[23:37] <quadrispro> mm
[23:37] <ScottL> i am trying to avoid from messing around with a user's existing /home directory and settings they would want (in case they erroneously installed this package)
[23:37] <quadrispro> either way, per-user .jackdrc file usually overrides system-wide config
[23:38] <quadrispro> however, let me have a look
[23:38] <ScottL> quadrispro,  hmmm, i didn't know there was two files
[23:38] <Len-live> That file is just a jackd command line. The one I see in the live dvd is 
[23:38] <Len-live> /usr/bin/jackd -dalsa -dhw:0 -r44100 -p1024 -n2
[23:39] <ScottL> Len-live, good point, i am actually talking about what settings qjackctl will use
[23:39] <ScottL> quadrispro, ^^^^
[23:39] <Len-live> I am not sure if it was there or got put there by jackd or qjackctl
[23:39] <falktx__> ScottL: 44100 sample rate, 512 buffer size, 2 nperiods
[23:39] <ScottL> quadrispro, ^^^ those are the settings
[23:39] <ScottL> falktx__, thank you again :)
[23:40] <falktx__> sure
[23:41] <Len-live> I am using PA->jackd right now to listen to music. It works, but jackd needs to be running before PA starts or PA needs to have alsa shut off.
[23:42] <Len-live> I found the stock PA level out seems quite high. The Jack meter bridge pins with PA input.
[23:45] <Len-live> I think qjackctl will read ~/.jackdrc and write it when setup is oked.
[23:46] <Len-live> Or maybe just before it starts jackd.
[23:48] <quadrispro> yes, those settings
[23:48] <quadrispro> ScottL, I should find some time to investigate further
[23:48] <quadrispro> I have several bugs now to fix
[23:49] <ScottL> quadrispro, it's not a rush, i was hoping to get this done in the next month or two, if that is acceptable to your schedule
[23:51] <ScottL> Len-live, are you using qjackctl to start jack or command line?
[23:51] <ScottL> qjackctl will most likely invovle pasuspender first
[23:54] <Len-live> I use qjackctl. It does not seem to suspend PA.
[23:54] <Len-live> ScottL  ^^^ (keep forgetting)
[23:56] <ScottL> Len-live, it's the menu entry (from the .desktop file i believe) that first calls pasuspender and then qjackctl
[23:56] <ScottL> at least it used to, david h. might have changed that alrzdy
[23:56] <quadrispro> ScottL, weh, ok, please don't forget to ping later
[23:58] <ScottL> sure :)