| ochosi | (i think apart from bluebird those are the main two items i'll be involved in) | 00:00 |
|---|---|---|
| knome | madnick still haven't pushed the code | 00:02 |
| knome | huhu, stomach said TOILER | 00:02 |
| knome | *T | 00:02 |
| knome | had a quite hot meal @ nepalese today | 00:02 |
| knome | so anyway | 00:03 |
| knome | yes, shortcut keys need discussion | 00:03 |
| knome | will you be able to attend the meeting tomorrow(today) ? | 00:03 |
| knome | 18UTC | 00:03 |
| ochosi | hm, most likely not, i have a meeting @work/uni | 00:03 |
| knome | bah | 00:03 |
| knome | what about later? | 00:04 |
| ochosi | it's on each wednesday between 6 and 8pm | 00:04 |
| knome | aha.. | 00:04 |
| ochosi | well after that usually drinks ;) | 00:04 |
| knome | lol | 00:04 |
| ochosi | i mean what i have to say about it have told you already | 00:04 |
| knome | yup | 00:04 |
| ochosi | i'm all for adding the app-shortcuts | 00:04 |
| ochosi | and i don't care whether we use the super-key or ctrl-alt (or both) | 00:04 |
| knome | want to make sure the wikipage is as finished as possible? | 00:05 |
| ochosi | for apps it's not that important | 00:05 |
| ochosi | although super tends to conflict less with within-app-shortcuts | 00:05 |
| knome | and of drinks... | 00:05 |
| ochosi | hm, we can give it a quick look | 00:05 |
| knome | we'll most probably be at berlin in april 5-11 or so | 00:05 |
| ochosi | aha | 00:05 |
| ochosi | i most likely won't be there then ;) | 00:06 |
| knome | hehe | 00:06 |
| knome | okay ;) | 00:06 |
| knome | if you change your mind though... | 00:06 |
| ochosi | hehe | 00:06 |
| ochosi | ok, i'll let you know then | 00:06 |
| ochosi | but i'm rarely in berlin | 00:06 |
| knome | cool ;) | 00:06 |
| ochosi | once or twice a year | 00:06 |
| knome | hah | 00:06 |
| knome | in that case i'm REALLY rarely to berlin | 00:06 |
| knome | will be my first time | 00:07 |
| knome | if TXL doesn't count | 00:07 |
| ochosi | haha | 00:07 |
| ochosi | i just spotted me and the other xfce-folks in a photo on planetubuntu | 00:07 |
| knome | wife's been there twice iirc | 00:07 |
| knome | really? | 00:07 |
| ochosi | yup | 00:07 |
| ochosi | knome: your wife has been on planetubuntu or @fosdem? | 00:10 |
| knome | lol | 00:11 |
| knome | i wish, in my naughtiest dreams | 00:11 |
| knome | well, not really actually :D | 00:12 |
| knome | just holidays and such | 00:12 |
| ochosi | anyway, where is that wiki-page again.... | 00:14 |
| knome | https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Xubuntu/Roadmap/Specifications/Precise/DefaultShortcutKeys | 00:14 |
| knome | well, the one thing that needs review mostly | 00:15 |
| knome | is gmusicbrowser | 00:15 |
| knome | super+g(mb) or super+a(udio) ? | 00:15 |
| knome | yeah, i know m would be better, but.. | 00:15 |
| ochosi | well those things will always conflict in some way | 00:15 |
| ochosi | i mean it doesn't even matter if you decide to use first-letters or functionality | 00:16 |
| knome | of course | 00:16 |
| ochosi | i'd use g | 00:16 |
| knome | but G really? | 00:16 |
| ochosi | a isn't intuitive or connected at all | 00:16 |
| ochosi | a could also show the mixer ;) | 00:16 |
| knome | but so isn't g :) | 00:16 |
| knome | hmm. | 00:16 |
| knome | what if that was super+1 ? | 00:17 |
| knome | we could bind a few more to 2-9 | 00:17 |
| knome | that wouldn't be connected either, but at least it wouldn't be so "weird" either... | 00:17 |
| knome | +2 xchat | 00:18 |
| knome | +3 pidgin (is that installed by default?) | 00:18 |
| ochosi | yeah, but why not use 1 for browser, 2 for mail..? | 00:18 |
| knome | and maybe we should bind gnumeric and abiword too | 00:18 |
| knome | don't know | 00:18 |
| knome | that works for me too | 00:18 |
| knome | we're not going to fit them all in the numbers though | 00:19 |
| knome | because it kind of does not make sense we have a shortcut for gmb but not abiword | 00:19 |
| ochosi | maybe | 00:20 |
| ochosi | well users can decide for themselves too | 00:20 |
| ochosi | so a for abiword then? ;) | 00:20 |
| knome | hahah | 00:20 |
| knome | well | 00:20 |
| knome | i think super+W(eb) is a good idea | 00:21 |
| knome | so is terminal, mail | 00:21 |
| ochosi | yes | 00:21 |
| knome | and those linked to exo | 00:21 |
| ochosi | well yes, we can also say we start with exo-stuff | 00:21 |
| knome | the others could be just 1-9 | 00:21 |
| knome | we should | 00:21 |
| ochosi | k, i'm fine with that actually | 00:21 |
| knome | because that's ideal imo | 00:21 |
| ochosi | right, then that's settled | 00:21 |
| knome | good | 00:21 |
| ochosi | and i can slowly think of going to bed | 00:21 |
| knome | this also gives users a good idea | 00:22 |
| ochosi | yes | 00:22 |
| knome | "hey, i can use super+1-9 for my apps" | 00:22 |
| knome | will you update the wiki or should i | 00:22 |
| ochosi | hopefully you can convince the others @meeting and we mr_pouit can push the changes | 00:22 |
| ochosi | if you can, that'd be great | 00:22 |
| knome | i can | 00:22 |
| ochosi | i'm already brushing my teeth | 00:22 |
| ochosi | ty :) | 00:22 |
| knome | can i'm sure i can at the meeting too | 00:22 |
| ochosi | yup, that's just as good | 00:22 |
| knome | i mean, this isn't breaking the system | 00:23 |
| knome | oh | 00:23 |
| knome | one more thing | 00:23 |
| knome | maybe add the fill-shortcuts for window manager | 00:23 |
| knome | but i'll see about that | 00:23 |
| ochosi | yup | 00:26 |
| ochosi | those are definitely useful | 00:26 |
| knome | hmm also | 00:26 |
| knome | we could quickly look at the order of the super+1-9 shortcuts tomorrow | 00:26 |
| knome | huhu | 00:27 |
| knome | super+F(iles) | 00:28 |
| ochosi | yup | 00:28 |
| ochosi | k, i'm off, night! | 00:29 |
| Unit193 | Adios | 00:29 |
| knome | good night! | 00:29 |
| knome | https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Xubuntu/Roadmap/Specifications/Precise/DefaultShortcutKeys | 00:54 |
| knome | done | 00:54 |
| Unit193 | Meh | 00:55 |
| knome | meh what? | 00:56 |
| Unit193 | Well, you said window manager isn't going to really change? | 00:56 |
| knome | mostly it stays the same | 00:57 |
| Unit193 | YES! | 00:57 |
| knome | we're only removing move+resize | 00:57 |
| knome | imo move is kind of eh | 00:57 |
| knome | because you need the mouse anyway | 00:57 |
| knome | and resize, mouse too | 00:57 |
| Unit193 | I just use Alt+click and drag anywhere on window | 00:57 |
| knome | in addition to those, only "stick" changes | 00:57 |
| knome | and we are introducing new three shortcuts | 00:58 |
| knome | but two of those do not overlap with existing shortcuts | 00:58 |
| knome | right, actually | 01:00 |
| Unit193 | In the end I'll just change to how I like it, not trying to be hard or anything | 01:00 |
| knome | i think the grab+move key could be changes | 01:00 |
| knome | but that's just me... | 01:00 |
| knome | well feel free to disagree and discuss now or in the meeting | 01:00 |
| knome | but i think this is a really delicate move | 01:00 |
| knome | do you use those keys that changed/removed much? | 01:00 |
| knome | if not, what's the problem :) | 01:01 |
| Unit193 | Ctrl+alt+t I use | 01:01 |
| Unit193 | Win+tab | 01:01 |
| knome | yeah, but those aren't changes | 01:01 |
| knome | *changed | 01:01 |
| knome | i mean, you had to add them previously as well | 01:01 |
| knome | and of course, upgrading doesn't break anything | 01:02 |
| knome | this is just for new installs | 01:02 |
| Unit193 | To upgrade you reinstall ;) | 01:02 |
| knome | i don't | 01:03 |
| knome | but whatsoever | 01:03 |
| knome | you needed to change some keys with the old setup | 01:03 |
| knome | and you need to do that with new | 01:03 |
| knome | are we making life for you considerably harder? | 01:04 |
| knome | that's the important question :) | 01:04 |
| Unit193 | knome: Again, just was making a light comment, nothing more. Also just happy the winmgr ones are basically the same | 01:04 |
| knome | yeah, good | 01:05 |
| Unit193 | I think a few defaults are great | 01:05 |
| knome | i'm taking comments seriously | 01:05 |
| knome | because if users are using the stick shortcut much, changing it can be really bad | 01:05 |
| Unit193 | I do not use it | 01:06 |
| knome | :) | 01:06 |
| knome | good | 01:06 |
| knome | what about move/resize? | 01:06 |
| knome | i'm thinking if it affects accessibility | 01:06 |
| knome | would those be essential for people who can't use a mouse? | 01:06 |
| Unit193 | I use corners, title bar, and alt+drag | 01:07 |
| Unit193 | alt+space is the method I have used, b ut Charlie is much better to ask | 01:07 |
| knome | ahh joy | 01:08 |
| knome | heh right so people can access them | 01:08 |
| knome | pleia2, hai? | 08:36 |
| ochosi | micahg: re: thunderbird: cool! is there any way to test it in oneiric? oh, and: i have a firefox-related question | 09:23 |
| micahg | ochosi: ppa:mozillateam/thunderbird-next | 09:23 |
| ochosi | micahg: is there any way to pass the "content-widget" of firefox white as base color and black as foreground color? it's kinda annoying to have dark bg with dark gtk-themes on pages that don't set the bg color | 09:24 |
| micahg | ochosi: can the firefox question wait a day, I'm trying to finish up some testing | 09:24 |
| ochosi | oh | 09:24 |
| ochosi | sry | 09:24 |
| ochosi | of course .) | 09:24 |
| ochosi | micahg: i'll ask you again tomorrow | 09:24 |
| ochosi | bbl | 09:25 |
| micahg | ochosi: you'd be better off asking chrisccoulson actualy :) | 09:25 |
| ochosi | k :) | 09:25 |
| Unit193 | ochosi: I have Aurora and Earlybird | 09:25 |
| ochosi | Unit193: what' | 10:54 |
| ochosi | Unit193: what's that? | 10:54 |
| Unit193 | Firefox and Tbird 12 | 10:55 |
| ochosi | ah | 10:55 |
| ochosi | ok | 10:55 |
| Unit193 | They're cooler ;) | 10:55 |
| ochosi | dunno mozilla-codenames ;) | 10:55 |
| ochosi | knome: yay! unico-stuff is merged as of today! | 10:55 |
| ochosi | knome: do i have to do anything else than set the bug-status to "fix released" to get the workitem marked as done? | 10:58 |
| ochosi | micahg, knome: yay for tb-devs! http://www.zimagez.com/zimage/screenshot-02082012-120329pm.php | 11:03 |
| mr_pouit | meh, gtk3 theming looks ugly in precise right now (icons with a grey background, it feels like displaying png with an alpha channel using internet explorer 5, and some colors not respected) | 12:55 |
| mr_pouit | 13:59 seb128: diwic, it's a gtk change how theming work, Cimi has to catch up and update our themes game | 13:01 |
| ochosi | mr_pouit: yes, i got a similar reply from Cimi about that directly | 14:30 |
| mr_pouit | Gtk-WARNING **: Theme parsing error: gtk-widgets.css:60:16: Not using units is deprecated. Assuming 'px'. | 14:36 |
| mr_pouit | mmh, I'll need to retest with the current git master | 14:36 |
| mr_pouit | (but the fixed unico engine still shows ugly things with greybird) | 14:37 |
| ochosi | well i haven't looked at what changed in unico | 14:37 |
| ochosi | best/easiest thing would be to test it with ambiance and to see what they changed there | 14:37 |
| ochosi | so if you could take a quick look at it with that theme, that'd be great help | 14:38 |
| mr_pouit | http://launchpadlibrarian.net/92313122/light-themes_0.1.8.27.2_0.1.8.28.diff.gz | 14:39 |
| mr_pouit | "Updated to work with gtk 3.3.14, requires new unico" | 14:39 |
| ochosi | gah... | 14:39 |
| mr_pouit | but it's probably hidden among all the changes :/ | 14:40 |
| ochosi | well ok, it's a trivial (but annoying) change | 14:40 |
| ochosi | all unico-stuff needs units now | 14:40 |
| ochosi | but i'm wondering why they're doing that | 14:40 |
| ochosi | i mean they know it'll break a lot of themse | 14:40 |
| ochosi | themes | 14:40 |
| ochosi | and it must be unrelated to whatever gtk-changes have been going on | 14:40 |
| ochosi | "px" can easily be appended by the engine | 14:40 |
| mr_pouit | -.menubar.menuitem:hover, | 14:43 |
| mr_pouit | -.menubar .menuitem *:hover { | 14:43 |
| mr_pouit | +.menubar.menuitem:hover { | 14:43 |
| mr_pouit | there's also that maybe? | 14:43 |
| mr_pouit | (they changed a few things like that) | 14:45 |
| ochosi | yeah, i might have to take a closer look later | 14:46 |
| ochosi | i really hope this doesn't break greybird on earlier versions of unico | 14:46 |
| ochosi | otherwise the branching-fun starts... | 14:46 |
| pleia2 | knome: you say hai at midnight:30, I was asleeping :) | 17:19 |
| knome | pleia2, heh, right :) | 17:27 |
| knome | i can't remember... | 17:27 |
| astraljava | Wonder what your wife says to that, you whispering to the ears of american women at nights. | 17:33 |
| knome | well, she always says i should have more hobbies | 17:33 |
| knome | doesn't that count? | 17:33 |
| pleia2 | lol | 17:33 |
| astraljava | I'm gonna bring this into her attention next week, and we'll see about that. | 17:33 |
| knome | astraljava, i just remembered we can't accommodate you after all | 17:34 |
| knome | ;) | 17:34 |
| astraljava | Heheheh. :) | 17:34 |
| knome | (just kidding) | 17:34 |
| knome | planning a bachelor party for a friend | 17:34 |
| astraljava | Hmm... what's this? Tom's Hardware says Canonical stops supporting Kubuntu? | 17:35 |
| knome | yes | 17:35 |
| knome | that's what riddell posted to the kubuntu mailing list too | 17:35 |
| knome | well, stops *financially* supporting kubuntu :) | 17:35 |
| astraljava | Yeah. | 17:35 |
| astraljava | Too bad. | 17:36 |
| knome | i don't know. | 17:37 |
| pleia2 | I'm glad all the flavors are on a level playing field now, their support of kubuntu was always kind of strange | 17:37 |
| knome | kind of sucks, because that means xubuntu can't get financial support ever, but on the other hand, other flavors have coped too | 17:37 |
| pleia2 | they dropped support for edubuntu a while back (remember edubuntu CDs? I do!) | 17:37 |
| knome | definitely agreed on that, pleia2 | 17:37 |
| astraljava | Yeah well, they (KDE project) have produced some pretty outstanding bits and pieces, reaching further than just the DE. | 17:38 |
| pleia2 | apachelogger had a good post about it | 17:38 |
| knome | pleia2, link? :) | 17:39 |
| pleia2 | a lot of the news articles have been a real kick in the face to developers other than riddell | 17:39 |
| astraljava | knome: KVG | 17:39 |
| pleia2 | http://apachelog.wordpress.com/2012/02/07/how-kubuntu-did-not-change/ | 17:39 |
| knome | astraljava, hahah | 17:39 |
| knome | astraljava, if it's true what my friend told to me, he launched that term when being a speaker in radio NRJ ;) | 17:40 |
| astraljava | Heheh, interesting. | 17:40 |
| knome | okay, meeting soon | 17:52 |
| knome | so, who's here for the meeting?? | 18:03 |
| astraljava | o/ | 18:03 |
| knome | #startmeeting Xubuntu Community Meeting | 18:03 |
| meetingology | Meeting started Wed Feb 8 18:03:46 2012 UTC. The chair is knome. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology. | 18:03 |
| meetingology | Available commands: #accept #accepted #action #agree #agreed #chair #commands #endmeeting #endvote #halp #help #idea #info #link #lurk #meetingname #meetingtopic #nick #progress #rejected #replay #restrictlogs #save #startmeeting #subtopic #topic #unchair #undo #unlurk #vote #voters #votesrequired | 18:03 |
| knome | anybody else, or are we going to have a quiet one? | 18:04 |
| knome | let's wait for a few mins | 18:04 |
| pleia2 | o/ | 18:04 |
| knome | GridCube, madnick, micahg, scott-work, Unit193 ? | 18:05 |
| knome | oh well, let's start | 18:05 |
| knome | #topic Business carried on | 18:06 |
| knome | #subtopic Default shortcut keys | 18:06 |
| knome | #info there is a final specification of the default shortcut keys at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Xubuntu/Roadmap/Specifications/Precise/DefaultShortcutKeys | 18:07 |
| knome | anybody have feedback about that? | 18:07 |
| knome | #info the specification mostly adds application shortbuts, but very slightly changes wm shortcuts too | 18:07 |
| knome | since there's been quite a lot of time to give feedback about the older or even the newest version, i'm supposing everybody have had their word... | 18:08 |
| knome | let's vote: yay (+1) or nay (-1) for the changes as is | 18:08 |
| knome | #vote Default shortcut keys: changes OK? | 18:09 |
| meetingology | Please vote on: Default shortcut keys: changes OK? | 18:09 |
| meetingology | Public votes can be registered by saying +1, +0 or -1 in channel, (private votes don't work yet, but when they do it will be by messaging the channel followed by +1/-1/+0 to me) | 18:09 |
| knome | +1 | 18:09 |
| meetingology | +1 received from knome | 18:09 |
| astraljava | +1 | 18:09 |
| meetingology | +1 received from astraljava | 18:09 |
| pleia2 | +1 | 18:09 |
| meetingology | +1 received from pleia2 | 18:09 |
| knome | anybody else? | 18:09 |
| knome | #endvote | 18:10 |
| meetingology | Voting ended on: Default shortcut keys: changes OK? | 18:10 |
| meetingology | Votes for:3 Votes against:0 Abstentions:0 | 18:10 |
| meetingology | Motion carried | 18:10 |
| knome | #nick mr_pouit | 18:10 |
| knome | #action mr_pouit to upload new default shortcuts to xubuntu-default-settings | 18:10 |
| meetingology | ACTION: mr_pouit to upload new default shortcuts to xubuntu-default-settings | 18:10 |
| knome | #topic Team updates | 18:10 |
| knome | #subtopic Packaging and Development | 18:11 |
| knome | (again, please use #info on all updates) | 18:11 |
| knome | #nick micahg | 18:12 |
| knome | #info mr_pouit and micahg worked on getting the Shimmer Project themes moved to shimmer-themes | 18:12 |
| knome | #info mr_pouit fixed alacarte - it's no longer pulling in half of GNOME, and it will work with OnlyShowIn=XFCE | 18:12 |
| knome | #info astraljava has been working on ubiquity "app sets" | 18:13 |
| knome | i think that was it, anything else comes to mind? | 18:14 |
| knome | #nick madnick | 18:14 |
| knome | #action madnick to provide sources for the new lightdm and plymout theme ASAP | 18:15 |
| meetingology | ACTION: madnick to provide sources for the new lightdm and plymout theme ASAP | 18:15 |
| knome | #subtopic Bug Triage, Testing and Documentation | 18:16 |
| knome | anybody? | 18:16 |
| pleia2 | it would be great to get some blog posts out there about these topics | 18:16 |
| pleia2 | I'm drafting one about testing that I'll pass along to charlie to proof | 18:16 |
| knome | okay, great | 18:17 |
| knome | #action pleia2 to raise publicity on triaging, testing and docs | 18:17 |
| meetingology | ACTION: pleia2 to raise publicity on triaging, testing and docs | 18:17 |
| knome | we don't seem to have anybody in to summarize actions, so let's move forward | 18:17 |
| knome | #subtopic Marketing, Artwork and Website | 18:18 |
| knome | #info New website is released! | 18:18 |
| pleia2 | yay! | 18:18 |
| knome | #ino Wallpaper nearly finished! | 18:18 |
| knome | #info Wallpaper nearly finished! | 18:18 |
| pleia2 | now that it's released I have some marketing ideas I want to work on | 18:18 |
| knome | #info pleia2 has been keeping the Twitter feed up-to-date! | 18:18 |
| knome | sure | 18:18 |
| pleia2 | I keep getting asked about whether there are xubuntu t-shirts (and other stuff), there isn't | 18:19 |
| pleia2 | #info do we want to start a zazzle.com store? | 18:19 |
| knome | do you think just a plain logo-model would be okay? | 18:19 |
| pleia2 | (or cafe press) | 18:19 |
| pleia2 | yes | 18:19 |
| pleia2 | just a big ole mouse on the front, maybe xubuntu.org on the back | 18:19 |
| knome | #action pleia2 and knome to work on t-shirt designs and come up with a proposal on the design and the webstore to plug in | 18:20 |
| meetingology | ACTION: pleia2 and knome to work on t-shirt designs and come up with a proposal on the design and the webstore to plug in | 18:20 |
| knome | that fine? | 18:20 |
| pleia2 | yep | 18:20 |
| knome | other ideas? :) | 18:20 |
| pleia2 | #info the other idea is fliers for conferences | 18:20 |
| pleia2 | color, black and white, full sheet and 4/page handouts | 18:20 |
| knome | #info possible webstores for t-shirts: cafepress, zazzle | 18:20 |
| pleia2 | at SCALE I found myself telling a lot of people about xubuntu when they wanted "old gnome" but not having info to give out | 18:21 |
| knome | i can help designing those, but would we be offering the ready-to-print PDF's or what? | 18:21 |
| pleia2 | yeah, SVGs and PDFs | 18:21 |
| knome | right | 18:21 |
| pleia2 | . | 18:21 |
| knome | do we expect people to send them to press, or just print at home/office printer? | 18:21 |
| pleia2 | both | 18:22 |
| pleia2 | which is why we want color and B&W | 18:22 |
| knome | right... | 18:22 |
| pleia2 | I'll probably just print out 4/page ones on blue paper with my B&W printer | 18:22 |
| knome | mm-hmm | 18:22 |
| knome | #action pleia2 to gather content for flyers | 18:22 |
| meetingology | ACTION: pleia2 to gather content for flyers | 18:22 |
| knome | #action knome to design flyers | 18:22 |
| meetingology | ACTION: knome to design flyers | 18:22 |
| pleia2 | that's all I've got for this topic :) | 18:23 |
| knome | righto | 18:23 |
| knome | #action pleia2 to set up a wikipage with all ideas | 18:23 |
| meetingology | ACTION: pleia2 to set up a wikipage with all ideas | 18:23 |
| knome | ;) | 18:23 |
| knome | #subtopic General updates | 18:24 |
| knome | i'm hungry | 18:24 |
| knome | anybody else need to get something off their chest? | 18:24 |
| astraljava | I'm going to sleep. | 18:24 |
| knome | good night | 18:24 |
| pleia2 | knome: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Xubuntu/Marketing | 18:24 |
| knome | ahh! :) | 18:24 |
| pleia2 | just need to move "further ideas" up to "current projects" :) | 18:24 |
| knome | nice ;) | 18:24 |
| knome | yep | 18:24 |
| knome | great | 18:25 |
| knome | #topic Other Business | 18:25 |
| knome | #subtopic New wallpaper | 18:25 |
| knome | #info New wallpaper draft has been available at http://temp.knome.fi/xubuntu/precise_wall/wall-9-preview.png | 18:25 |
| knome | any feedback? | 18:25 |
| pleia2 | (I still don't like the bird) | 18:25 |
| knome | heh, we're probably going to add a fisher and a boa too | 18:26 |
| knome | +t | 18:26 |
| knome | to the left side | 18:26 |
| knome | so those who don't like birds can use the left-side | 18:26 |
| astraljava | boa would rock | 18:26 |
| knome | astraljava, i'm sure, especially if it's windy | 18:26 |
| pleia2 | sounds good | 18:26 |
| knome | #vote New wallpaper: Looks OK, fine with us to upload to Xubuntu with minor changes? | 18:27 |
| meetingology | Please vote on: New wallpaper: Looks OK, fine with us to upload to Xubuntu with minor changes? | 18:27 |
| meetingology | Public votes can be registered by saying +1, +0 or -1 in channel, (private votes don't work yet, but when they do it will be by messaging the channel followed by +1/-1/+0 to me) | 18:27 |
| knome | +1 | 18:27 |
| meetingology | +1 received from knome | 18:27 |
| astraljava | +1 | 18:27 |
| meetingology | +1 received from astraljava | 18:27 |
| pleia2 | +1 | 18:27 |
| meetingology | +1 received from pleia2 | 18:27 |
| knome | anybody else? | 18:27 |
| * knome is kind of bored with this meeting :P | 18:27 | |
| knome | #endvote | 18:28 |
| meetingology | Voting ended on: New wallpaper: Looks OK, fine with us to upload to Xubuntu with minor changes? | 18:28 |
| meetingology | Votes for:3 Votes against:0 Abstentions:0 | 18:28 |
| meetingology | Motion carried | 18:28 |
| astraljava | Heheh. :) | 18:28 |
| knome | #action knome to finalize wallpaper | 18:28 |
| meetingology | ACTION: knome to finalize wallpaper | 18:28 |
| knome | #action mr_pouit to upload wallpaper to repo | 18:28 |
| meetingology | ACTION: mr_pouit to upload wallpaper to repo | 18:28 |
| knome | #subtopic Open action items from previous meeting | 18:28 |
| knome | #action micahg and mr_pouit to confirm xfce package versions in precise | 18:28 |
| meetingology | ACTION: micahg and mr_pouit to confirm xfce package versions in precise | 18:28 |
| knome | #action ochosi to investigate some cherry-picking from xfce upstream to ubuntu | 18:29 |
| meetingology | ACTION: ochosi to investigate some cherry-picking from xfce upstream to ubuntu | 18:29 |
| knome | #subtopic Any other business | 18:29 |
| knome | anything? | 18:29 |
| astraljava | I've been stalling with the ubiquity part. | 18:29 |
| astraljava | But I intend to finish it by FF. | 18:30 |
| knome | do you expect to get it done for FF? | 18:30 |
| knome | ok, good | 18:30 |
| astraljava | Which probably means during the upcoming weekend. | 18:30 |
| knome | if you can't, tell us in advance and we'll seek for exception | 18:30 |
| astraljava | Sure. | 18:30 |
| knome | #info we're under the mainline at burndown: http://status.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-precise/group/topic-precise-flavor-xubuntu.html | 18:31 |
| knome | #endmeeting | 18:31 |
| meetingology | Meeting ended Wed Feb 8 18:31:27 2012 UTC. | 18:31 |
| meetingology | Minutes (wiki): http://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/xubuntu-devel/2012/xubuntu-devel.2012-02-08-18.03.moin.txt | 18:31 |
| meetingology | Minutes (html): http://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/xubuntu-devel/2012/xubuntu-devel.2012-02-08-18.03.html | 18:31 |
| knome | thanks pleia2 and astraljava | 18:31 |
| astraljava | Thank you! | 18:31 |
| knome | and woot, new meetingology links | 18:31 |
| knome | yay yay | 18:31 |
| knome | much better | 18:31 |
| knome | still not perfect, but better | 18:32 |
| pleia2 | thanks knome :) | 18:32 |
| astraljava | yep, much better. | 18:32 |
| knome | np | 18:32 |
| knome | great to get things forward | 18:32 |
| knome | meeting minutes up | 18:36 |
| * pleia2 adds to UWN | 18:37 | |
| knome | thanks :) | 18:37 |
| pleia2 | aaand tweeted | 18:42 |
| knome | sent mail to ubuntu-release | 18:45 |
| madnick | knome: 1 day early? ;) | 19:25 |
| knome | hah | 19:26 |
| knome | madnick, can you please provide the sources for lightdm and plymouth to mr_pouit ? | 19:27 |
| madnick | hm, lightdm probably, plymouth nope, plymouth atm is just a bug fix and a start for the game | 19:27 |
| knome | can you upload what you have on the plymouth? | 19:28 |
| madnick | i suppose | 19:28 |
| knome | better to get those in first | 19:28 |
| knome | then upload updates | 19:28 |
| knome | if the game isn't ready, then it isn't | 19:28 |
| knome | but we need the basic stuff by FF | 19:28 |
| madnick | yup | 19:28 |
| madnick | i acctually | 19:28 |
| madnick | dedicated friday, saturday and sunday to work on the last bits | 19:29 |
| knome | great :) | 19:29 |
| knome | that's very much appreciated | 19:29 |
| madnick | these past 2 months have been extremly hard to get *any* work done | 19:29 |
| knome | yeah, i've noticed you've been busy | 19:29 |
| madnick | i will create a branch on lp and upload the stuff i have atm | 19:30 |
| knome | great | 19:33 |
| knome | i just talked to dpm about the translations too | 19:34 |
| knome | that's another reason why we'd like to have it ASAP :) | 19:34 |
| madnick | yeah, acctually i am a bit confused of how to pull that off, since its not GTK, but one could probably emulate that | 19:34 |
| olbi | hello guys :D | 19:35 |
| olbi | I have now Edge HD3 for testing with E-450 and Radeon HD 6300, testing Xubuntu 11.10, works fine, but drivers from AMD are shits :P | 19:36 |
| baizon | olbi: indeed :( | 19:44 |
| baizon | got the same hardware | 19:44 |
| olbi | :) | 19:58 |
| olbi | but Ion is working great :D | 19:58 |
| olbi | I wonder, why in repo 11.10 there isn't nvidia 290.xx yet ;/ | 19:59 |
| micahg | sorry, meant to remind people I wouldn't be around | 20:07 |
| Unit193 | Seems I may have missed it too | 20:44 |
| knome | :P | 21:01 |
| ochosi | knome: what did i miss? | 23:46 |
| knome | ochosi, the meeting? | 23:47 |
| knome | ochosi, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Xubuntu/Meetings/Archive/Minutes/2012-02-08 | 23:47 |
| ochosi | k, read it | 23:49 |
| ochosi | so the kb-shortcuts are done, that's good | 23:49 |
| knome | yeah, just need mr_pouit to push them | 23:50 |
| ochosi | mhm | 23:50 |
| ochosi | btw, the ubiquity screenshots could be done in oneiric anytime | 23:50 |
| knome | note how delicately i was able to remind him | 23:50 |
| ochosi | all we need is thunderbird | 23:50 |
| ochosi | and software center (i think) | 23:50 |
| knome | well, tb is a must | 23:50 |
| knome | if you can take the screenshot, i can update it right away | 23:51 |
| ochosi | i don't have tb installed here (don't use it :) ) | 23:51 |
| knome | how do i apply the fix to oneiric? | 23:51 |
| ochosi | btw, "gather list of goodlooking wps" should be postponed imo | 23:51 |
| ochosi | just use the ppa micahg mentioned earlier | 23:52 |
| knome | ==postponed | 23:52 |
| ochosi | ppa:mozillateam/thunderbird-next | 23:52 |
| knome | right | 23:52 |
| knome | did he say if that is stable? | 23:52 |
| ochosi | no | 23:52 |
| knome | okay | 23:52 |
| ochosi | i dunno what the status of that is | 23:52 |
| ochosi | to the worst you can downgrade | 23:53 |
| knome | micahg, how stable is ppa:mozillateam/thunderbird-next? | 23:53 |
| ochosi | i think we don't have enough space for the wallpapers anyway atm | 23:53 |
| ochosi | and it'd be best if they were updated upstream | 23:53 |
| ochosi | soo, one less thing to worry about .) | 23:53 |
| knome | yeah | 23:54 |
| ochosi | so mostly it's the bluebird port for me now | 23:54 |
| knome | i'm quite amazed - @XubuntuLinux has 7 tweets, and we have 173 followers | 23:54 |
| ochosi | i hope i can do that soon, actually i'm not too optimistic | 23:54 |
| ochosi | ah nice | 23:54 |
| * ochosi never used twitter | 23:54 | |
| knome | i used it for two tweets and 5 minutes | 23:55 |
| knome | then removed my account | 23:55 |
| knome | what about theming maybe-ubiquity? | 23:55 |
| ochosi | don't even know what that is :) | 23:55 |
| knome | i hear its color is not optimal | 23:55 |
| knome | the installer | 23:55 |
| knome | where you select if you want to install or try | 23:56 |
| ochosi | you mean the graphical one or the startup screen? | 23:56 |
| knome | tbh, i'm not really sure :| | 23:56 |
| knome | but i think both | 23:56 |
| knome | it was added for precise | 23:56 |
| knome | so if you're thinking oneiric, you're outdated | 23:56 |
| ochosi | aha | 23:58 |
| ochosi | i guess that's all i'm thinking :) | 23:58 |
| ochosi | i don't have much free space since i switched from hdd to ssd | 23:58 |
| knome | heh | 23:58 |
| knome | i see | 23:58 |
| * knome gets shivers from ólafur arnalds' "this place is a shelter" | 23:59 | |
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