[02:48] <kop> so here we are again with the tiny (10pt) fonts on the 1280x720 40" lcd . this time its K3b that is unreadable . any suggestions ? and no I can't read the fonts with a magnifying glass ....
[02:50] <Sentynel> kop: k3b is kde software and thus will obey kde settings
[02:50] <Sentynel> try running kcmshell4 fonts
[02:55] <kop> only using K3b because the rest of the "home/office" is used to it and and once trained retraining is near impossible
[02:55] <kop> this hasn't been the only time I've had to fight the default 10pt font
[02:56] <kop> the console in synaptic is also blessed w/ unreadable fonts
[02:56] <kop> is this an lxde or lubuntu issue ?
[02:57] <kop> btw I do understand the need for the default font size I just don't agree ;)
[04:43] <zerothis> how can i force all sound through my bluetooth headset?
[05:10] <zerothis> im using pulseaudio and oneiric
[05:11] <Unit193> Do you have paman, paprefs, and pavucontrol?
[05:11] <Unit193> Should have enough options in there to set it up I'd think...
[05:17] <blaine_> hello
[05:18] <zerothis> paman, paprefs, and pavucontrol dont show my bt
[05:21] <blaine_> does anyone know how to completely reset all of lxde's settings?
[05:21] <blaine_> I know in KDE I can just delete the .KDE folder... any such folder for lxde?
[05:21] <bioterror> under config
[05:21] <bioterror> .config
[05:21] <bioterror> was it .lubuntu ;)
[05:21] <bioterror> sorry
[05:21] <bioterror> .config/lubuntu/
[05:22] <bioterror> or was it .config/openbox ;)
[05:22] <blaine_> there is an openbox
[05:23] <blaine_> okay... and that file does autogenerate if I delete it... right? :-)
[05:23] <bioterror> yep
[05:25] <blaine_> awesome... my main issue is actually that I set the desktop right click menu to the openbox menu... and there does not seem to be a GUI method of setting that back... other than entering the desktop settings menu... which I can no longer get to...
[05:25] <Unit193> In terminal  pcmanfm --desktop-pref
[05:27] <blaine_> wow... that was amazingly easy... lol... Thanks!
[05:28] <Unit193> Yep
[05:50] <pAt__> Unit139: will this be implemented in the gui in future lubuntu versions?
[05:54] <Unit193> 139? Must not be looking for me...
[05:54] <pAt__> Ups. Yes its for you ;)
[05:56] <pAt__> Unit193
[05:56] <Unit193> What is "this"?
[05:57] <pAt__> What blaine asked
[05:57] <Unit193> Removing all your config isn't a normal operation
[06:00] <pAt__> Nah. Just setting back right click to standard menu rather than openboxmenu by using the gui instead of a terminal comand
[06:00] <Unit193> That terminal command opens a GUI....
[06:01] <Unit193> Might be a menu option too, but that's easier to tell them, and easier for me to remember
[06:01] <pAt__> Sure. But you have to know it. If there is a beginner, he will not find it. Why not including it in the gui?
[06:03] <Unit193> As I just said, there may be a menu option..............
[06:04] <pAt__> I did not find one when i started using lxde, i guess there isnt that option to check
[06:05] <pAt__> Got to go now ;) see you later
[08:11] <marnold> anyone know how i might dissable the touchpad on my thinkpad
[08:23] <pAt_> marnold: look out for syndaemon
[08:24] <marnold> ?
[08:35] <pAt_> marnold: syndaemon can do it, google for it
[08:43] <marnold> k
[08:44] <marnold> thanks
[09:13] <JadedJacob> When I set my resolution to 1024x768, after rebooting it always reverts back to the highest resolution my monitor supports, something crazy like 1600x1200
[09:13] <JadedJacob> how do i stop this from happening?
[09:14] <JadedJacob> I love lubuntu by the way.
[09:14] <JadedJacob> Pentium 4 2.4ghz has never run as fast :)
[09:22] <Unit193> That's a bit odd, do you know if everything in your /home/user dir is owned by your user?
[09:35] <JadedJacob> Unit193 are you talking to me?
[09:36] <Unit193> Nobody else here, you were last to type. Yep :D
[09:36] <JadedJacob> i've only just connected haha
[09:37] <JadedJacob> I think i'm just going to reinstall
[09:37] <JadedJacob> it's a new install anyway, plus i'm putting in a new gfx card anyway
[09:37] <JadedJacob> Going from built in with 8MB shared to a 64MB geforce 4 ti.
[09:37] <Unit193> If for some reason still there, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/X/Config/Resolution
[09:38] <JadedJacob> ok
[09:40] <JadedJacob> Unit193 what hardware do you run on lubuntu?
[09:41] <Unit193> I wouldn't call it running, but....
[09:41] <Unit193> CPU~Single core Celeron (Mendocino) (-UP-) clocked at 498.389 Mhz Kernel~3.0.0-15-generic i686 Up~12 days Mem~151.4/495.4MB HDD~20.2GB(21.2% used) Procs~132 Client~Irssi 0.8.15 inxi~1.7.7
[09:41] <JadedJacob> why wouldn't you call it running?
[09:42] <Unit193> That's two HDDs, one with old windows install, and crappy uptime.  Well, with that underpowered CPU, it's not snappy, but it's not bad (more of a joke.)
[09:43] <JadedJacob> I have a spare celeron 533
[09:43] <JadedJacob> I'm trying to decide which distro to install on it.
[09:43] <JadedJacob> Looking at TinyCoreLinux or Puppy linux(although puppy linux is getting pretty bloated now)
[09:44] <JadedJacob> well not bloated, but the required hardware has gone up.
[09:44] <JadedJacob> I'm running a Pentium 4 2.4ghz @ 2.8, 1GB ram, 160GB HDD
[09:44] <Unit193> My list of small includes, slitaz, antix, lubuntu, debian netinst, ubuntu mini.iso, and others I can't think of at 5am
[09:45] <Unit193> Depending on what you need, Lubuntu isn't so bad on 500MHz
[09:45] <JadedJacob> True, i I got sick of running windows XP and having to use anti-virus software.
[09:45] <JadedJacob> So I ditched it, such a huge improvement.
[09:46] <JadedJacob> LXDE is so snappy on this hardware.
[09:47] <Unit193> It should be, that's fairly decent
[09:47] <Unit193> Check your 533 if it supports PAE before installing anything on it
[09:48] <Unit193> grep pae /proc/cpuinfo  if you didn't know (from a live or something like that)
[09:50] <JadedJacob> PAE?
[09:51] <Unit193> !pae
[09:52] <Unit193> non-PAE kernels are going to be removed from Ubuntu by defulat very soon, and repos not too long (my 500 supports PAE, but doesn't have that much ram)
[09:57] <JadedJacob> My celeron 533 only has about 192MB RAM
[09:58] <JadedJacob> LOL, my cellphone has better specs than my celeron 5333
[09:59] <Unit193> Yes, but it's the kernel that'll need your computer to support PAE, not the RAM.
[10:00] <JadedJacob> why is the kernel removing support for old hardware, I thought desktop linux distros were all about recycling old hardware :(
[10:01] <Unit193> Well, it's some oddball hardware that doesn't support it, and it's hard to maintain (so they say at least)
[10:02] <JadedJacob> more lines of code :)
[10:02] <JadedJacob> All people want computers for nowadays is Facebook, Flash player and Openoffice. (well the majority of home users)
[10:17] <JadedJacob> thanks for your help man
[10:23] <Unit193> Sure
[10:29] <marnold> well i suppose we can always do ppas when non-pae is removed
[10:29] <marnold> Debian still has a 486 optimized kernel
[10:30] <marnold> so it shouldn't be too hard
[10:30] <marnold> i miss my 486 :(
[10:36] <Unit193> Most won't need to
[10:36] <marnold> i know
[10:37] <marnold> I only just started using lxde because it's like gnome2
[10:38] <marnold> and Gentoo is about the only distro still supporting
[10:38] <marnold> g2
[10:39] <marnold> i've used gentoo, i like gentoo i just don't have time to maintain gentoo
[10:40] <JadedJacob> marnold why don't you like gnome 3?
[10:40] <Unit193> Mmmmmm.... Mind if we continue in #lubuntu-offtopic ?
[10:41] <marnold> nope
[11:14] <moxioc> What are your thoughts on Lubuntu developed tools (like lxpanel, lxsession, lxterminal, etc.) adhering to security improvements suggested by this tool: http://www.trapkit.de/tools/checksec.html
[12:32] <freeroute> http://developer.android.com/sdk/requirements.html
[12:32] <freeroute> under Supported Operating Systems
[12:33] <freeroute> is glibc in this case the same as libc?
[12:36] <JustSighDudes> Is there a way to rename the tabs in LXTerminal?
[12:50] <freeroute> JustSighDu... Ctrl+Shift+I ?
[12:52] <njin> Hello, is pcmanfm using nautilus libraries?
[13:10] <JadedJacob> when paritioning, shall I use 'align to:' MiB or cylinder
[13:22] <marnold> freeroute, yes
[13:23] <marnold> the g is implyed libc stands on its own
[13:23] <marnold> because we're all a bunch of lazy typists
[13:28] <JadedJacob> Shall I use ext3 or ext4 as my '/' partition?
[13:28] <kanliot_> doesn't matter
[13:28] <JadedJacob> Which version of grub comes with 11.10?
[13:29] <JadedJacob> 1.99* ?
[13:34] <marnold> JadedJacob, if you don't know go with ext4
[13:35] <marnold> i used to be a big ext4 hater
[13:35] <marnold> but they fixed the issues i had
[13:35] <JadedJacob> ok
[13:35] <marnold> of course my /home is still reiserfs
[13:40] <jo-erlend> thought I'd have a look at the current state of Precise for Lubuntu. Where can I get a recent image?
[13:45] <JadedJacob> thanks marnold
[13:45] <JadedJacob> what were the issues you had?
[13:45] <JadedJacob> also what is the default login/password for the lubuntu live cd?
[13:46] <marnold> should be none
[13:46] <JadedJacob> i clicked logout, cause the installer froze
[13:47] <marnold> don't do that
[13:47] <JadedJacob> it's 'ubuntu'
[13:47] <JadedJacob> no password
[13:47] <marnold> yep
[13:47] <JadedJacob> how else would i close the installer?
[13:48] <marnold> you don't
[13:48] <marnold> you wait 20 minutes
[13:48] <JadedJacob> the installer froze, I couldn't click next or quit
[13:48] <marnold> and if its still stuck you reboot the system
[13:49] <JadedJacob> it was on the first page.
[13:49] <marnold> ok then
[13:49] <JadedJacob> I'M TRYINg to restart, and it's at *unmounting temporary filesystems [ok] and it's just sitting there
[13:49] <marnold> ok
[13:49] <marnold> try pushing enter
[13:50] <marnold> the disc should eject
[13:50] <JadedJacob> LOL, I'm so used to waiting for the message, 'press enter'
[13:50] <JadedJacob> It's a flashdrive by the way, restarting now.
[13:50] <marnold> did it work
[13:51] <JadedJacob> Clicking on 'update this installer
[13:51] <JadedJacob> ' probably didn't help.
[13:51] <marnold> well then that explains it
[13:51] <JadedJacob> for some reason I can only get the live "disc" to boot using acpi=off
[13:52] <marnold> that also explains it
[13:52] <JadedJacob> acpi=off explains why it froze during install?
[13:52] <marnold> it can't reboot on its own if
[13:52] <marnold> acpi is off
[13:53] <marnold> no
[13:53] <marnold> thats not why installer broke
[13:53] <marnold> you'll want the text based installer
[13:54] <marnold> if you can't get live to boot
[13:54] <marnold> either something is wrong with the disc or your system
[13:54] <marnold> kill two birds with one stone
[13:55] <marnold> the alt installer can work with any  oddball stuff that may be going on
[13:57] <JadedJacob> I've already started to copy
[13:59] <JadedJacob> It's a horrible intel motherboard with a pentium 4 2.4ghz CPU
[13:59] <JadedJacob> 512 RAM and a geforce 4 ti 4200
[14:01] <JadedJacob> I'll try installing the driver from nvidia
[14:02] <JadedJacob> disabling acpi=off and restarting
[14:07] <JadedJacob> Grabbing the alt installer
[14:07] <JadedJacob> :(
[14:08] <JadedJacob> I'm testing the RAM as well
[14:08] <JadedJacob> Something is broken though
[14:08] <JadedJacob> Memtest86+ isn't displaying properly
[14:08] <JadedJacob> there's black bards and overlapping text.
[14:44] <freeroute> does (h)top have a function which is similar to LXTask 0.1.4 "Show memory used by cache as free" ?
[14:45] <freeroute> because that is a preeety useful thing to know when working in live environments
[15:14] <JadedJacob> marnold:
[15:14] <JadedJacob> Seems my CPU was overheating.
[15:27] <pcroque> freeroute: top shows VIRT and RES columns for the memory, and the command free -m shows a line '-/+ buffers/cache' that should do what you want.
[15:28] <pcroque> freeroute: see www.linuxatemyram.com also.
[16:15] <giuseppe60> hello
[16:16] <draioch> ive had a recurrent prob with lubuntu 11.10, ive done 3  reinstalls in about 3 month for same reason, password and user no longer accecpted  for no apparent reason, seems to happen when i switch off at mains and not sys shoutdown anyone any suggestions pls
[16:17] <freeroute> pcroque: that website made me lol hard :D
[16:17] <holstein> draioch: theres a recovery kernel... have you tried that?
[16:23] <draioch> hi holstein, hows it goin!, think i tried that will try again thx
[16:23] <phillw> draioch: 2 possible causes. One is that / mounts as read-only as there is a file error. 2nd you mess up your ICEAuthority file permissions
[16:23] <holstein> draioch: o/
[16:23] <draioch> \o
[16:24] <phillw> draioch: however, the best way to prevent smashing your file system is not to power off before shutting down.
[16:24] <holstein> draioch: thats what i would try first... that is odd... i could try some testing with you though.. i have som boxes i could pull the power on ;)
[16:24] <draioch> i know thx phillw
[16:25] <draioch> its the 3rd time happening and i do a lot of mains swithoffs, cant think off any other reason thx holstein
[16:25] <phillw> re-mounting / as rw by using Alt-F2 should get that fior you (you can check if it is an error sate by issuing mount - if / is read only, then it is in a state of error.
[16:26] <holstein> draioch: does is seem to be only lubuntu? ...do you have encryption setup?
[16:26] <draioch> thx phillw ill keep that in mind
[16:27] <draioch> me only use lubuntu on one pc, no encryption setup
[16:28] <draioch> meantime is recovery kernel easiest option for now
[16:33] <pcroque> freeroute: Yeah...it's pretty funny...but it helped me understand what was going on with memory on my system.
[16:34] <pcroque> freeroute: BTW the command: watch free -m should give you an update every 2 seconds of your real free memory.
[16:41] <JadedJacob> morning
[16:41] <JadedJacob> got the coffee on?
[16:42] <Flazer> you know it
[16:44] <JadedJacob> Hi Flazer, help me tweak lubuntu for performance.
[16:44] <JadedJacob> :D
[16:54] <JadedJacob> Man the boot time of lubuntu is amazing.
[16:54] <JadedJacob> Flazer I'm just trying to tweak flash playpack
[16:54] <JadedJacob> *back
[17:05] <draioch> when trying to repair kernel from rescue mode from 11.10 iso when option to pick as device for root file for pass restore or does it matter, ta... /dev/sda1 or 2 or 5 or no use root file sys
[17:05] <draioch> which option
[17:12] <Flazer> sorry Jacob. was making bkfast. afk. as far as tweaking, I may not be your best man just yet. ;-)
[17:13] <JadedJacob> All good
[17:13] <JadedJacob> I'll read the ubuntuforums
[17:13] <JadedJacob> and install a light weight browser to go along with tweaked lubuntu
[17:13] <JadedJacob> Turning off a few processes, like bluetooth
[17:15] <Flazer> that's what I would suggest. you can even remove packages you don't use. that's a little more advanced tho. I use chromium as my browser, which seems to work well
[17:21] <JadedJacob> I want to be able to watch 480p content with out any dropped frames
[17:21] <JadedJacob> well with out any stuttering.
[17:21] <JadedJacob> Firefox 9 seems too much of a resource hog for my aging pentium 4 2.4ghz
[17:27] <Flazer> so you're watching a video on say, YouTube, and you get stuttering? especially in fullscreen right?
[17:28] <Flazer> I did some digging, and it sounds more like a Flash isn't optimized for Linux issue rather than a Lubuntu issue. another guy had the same sort of thing happen in Ubuntu. let me see what his fix was
[17:29] <Flazer> "Another disappointment (although an expected one) is the performance of Flash under Linux. Under Windows XP, this machine shows almost no extra CPU usage when switching YouTube videos to full screen 480p. However, due to the sub-optimal performance of Flash on Linux, I couldn't even get smooth playback of 320p in full screen mode under Linux. In windowed mode, the performance was acceptable, and there is a partial work-around in the form
[17:29] <Flazer> of FlashVideoReplacer."
[17:30] <Flazer> m.linuxjournal.com/content/xubuntu-1110-and-my-netbook
[17:30] <Flazer> the fix is an addon for Firefox.
[17:31] <JadedJacob> Cool, I'll install Firefox as well, so I can compare flash performance.
[17:31] <JadedJacob> Not even full screen video, just 360/480p youtube videos at their normal size.
[17:32] <JadedJacob> stutter and lag
[17:32] <Flazer> good idea. I had to run some terminal fommands to get chromium to add flash. by default it doesn't have it, probably to boost performance ;-)
[17:32] <Flazer> commands
[17:49] <JadedJacob> Flazer
[17:49] <JadedJacob> Just reinstalled Lubuntu + updates + nvidia drivers
[17:49] <JadedJacob> Flash playback is amazing now thanks to HTML5
[17:49] <Flazer> ya?
[17:50] <Flazer> good to hear. which browser
[17:50] <Flazer> I was going to tell you to wait for HTML 5, but thought that would sound to asinine haha
[17:51] <JadedJacob> lol spoke too soon, full screen flash made chromium crash
[17:51]  * Flazer lets out a sigh
[17:52] <Flazer> what about Firefox?
[17:54] <JadedJacob> hmmm
[17:54] <JadedJacob> How do I install firefox in lubuntu?
[17:55] <phillw> JadedJacob: go into Synaptic Package Mananger and type firefox in the search part.
[18:04] <JadedJacob> thanks
[18:07] <valdur55> Where i can find this chat log?
[18:07] <valdur55> This channel log*
[18:13] <pcroque> valdur55: irclogs.ubuntu.com
[18:56] <JadedJacob> Flazer: FlashVideoReplacer has been removed
[18:57] <Flazer> ah, sorry
[18:58] <valdur55> I am having problem with xdg-open http:// and ubutnu-bug fails with this problem.
[18:58] <wxl> valdur55: you STILL haven't replied to the email
[18:59] <valdur55> oh sorry.... alpha2 ... and dailly
[18:59] <wxl> again, you still haven't replied to all the questions
[19:00] <kanliot_> xdg-open works on my pc
[19:01] <valdur55> xdg-open can't hadnle http://
[19:04] <valdur55> xdg-open http://lubuntu.net
[19:04] <valdur55> who can open this with lubuntu?
[19:09] <valdur55> wxl, Check your command.... xdg-open and ubuntu-bug doesn't exist
[19:13] <wxl> valdur55: why don't you try installing them :D
[19:14] <valdur55> I mean.. package
[19:16] <valdur55> wxl, and why i need use sudo for apt-policy
[19:16] <valdur55> wxl, apt-cahe policy
[19:17] <wxl> because you need sudo for every apt command valdur55
[19:17] <valdur55> are you sure? apt-get source pakcage works nicely
[19:18] <wxl> you're welcome to try it without
[19:19] <Sentynel> apt-cache doesn't need sudo
[19:19] <valdur55> and apt-source , i depens on working dir
[19:20] <valdur55> install, update, clean, purge, autoremove is with sudo
[19:20] <kanliot_> xdg-open http://lubuntu.net works fine here
[19:20] <valdur55> oh.. just admin tasks.... i missed some commands
[19:21] <Sentynel> you need root if you're making changes, basically; just reading the db is not a privileged operation
[19:21] <valdur55> kanliot_, what version?
[19:21] <kanliot_> precise
[19:21] <valdur55> oh... but ubuntu-bug xdg-utils ?
[19:22] <kanliot_> how do i get that
[19:22] <valdur55> command: ubuntu-bug xdg-utils
[19:23] <kanliot_> 2:~$ xdg-utils 1.10-rc1-2ubuntu6
[19:24] <kanliot_> valdur did you get my email in the list about the scrollbars?
[19:24] <kanliot_> if you did if you could test that for me
[19:26] <valdur55> kanliot_, yea i got it... i need some free time to hack again with lubuntu dailly build :)
[19:27] <kanliot_> it's quick to test
[19:28] <kanliot_> cmon!
[19:36] <venik212> I want to assign some function to the center button of a mouse-- how do I do that in Lubuntu?
[19:38] <JadedJacob> Has anyone managed to get flash to run smoothly?
[19:42] <holstein> JadedJacob: i have flash running smoothly on most everything... not on one via chip though... and several otherers are choppy with certain driver/kernel configurations
[19:45] <venik212> anyone knows how to assign functions to mouse buttons in Lubuntu?
[19:46] <kanliot_> openbox
[19:47] <kanliot_> or that x config thing
[19:47] <kanliot_> xbindkeys
[19:47] <bioterror> probably from lubuntu-rc.xml
[19:48] <bioterror> never had urge to do that
[19:50] <Flazer> got a weird bug. when I first boot up. the "start" button and the power button have a white background. if I change the background of the power to something else and then back it fixes it. only started happening in the last week
[19:55] <venik212> Openbox allows very limited stuff regarding the mouse, AFAIK
[19:55] <venik212> I looked
[20:01] <venik212> yes-- I see that editing the lubuntu-rc.xml could do it.....  It would have been nice if the mouse & Keyboard app from the menu had some more features.. Oh well
[20:10] <kanliot_> flazer iif you can reproduce it then file a bug
[20:10] <kanliot_> most likely the dev wont be able to reproduce it
[20:10] <kanliot_> on his pc or hers
[20:13] <Flazer> gotcha, will do, just was seeing if anyone else had come across it
[20:26] <silverarrow> hi
[20:26] <silverarrow> I'm about to turn back to lubuntu
[20:29] <Flazer> yeah?
[20:30] <Flazer> welcome back
[20:30] <silverarrow> hi
[20:30] <silverarrow> ;-)
[20:31] <silverarrow> I've been running puppy linux for a while, but I there are advantages to full install and stability
[20:31] <wxl> ew puppy linux
[20:32] <Flazer> what kind of a system?
[20:37] <silverarrow> its' not ew lol
[20:37] <silverarrow> but it is mainly frugal install, and cd/usb boot
[20:37] <silverarrow> it works, and it's really fast
[20:38] <wxl> conceptually i like it, not actually
[20:38] <Flazer> right, would be good for netbooks or limited hard drive storage
[20:38] <silverarrow> lubuntu often boots better from full install
[20:38] <Flazer> but you're looking to come back to lubuntu?
[20:38] <silverarrow> or faster
[20:39] <Flazer> yep
[20:39] <silverarrow> yes, I am
[20:40] <silverarrow> puppy is great for those who compile and tweak stuff
[20:40] <Flazer> yeah, but you want a daily user distro, right?
[20:40] <silverarrow> yes,
[20:41] <Flazer> we're here to help
[20:42] <silverarrow> I'm  about to burn 11.10
[20:48] <JadedJacob> how can i close X server, so I can manually install nvidia drivers?
[20:51] <Sentynel> JadedJacob: why are you manually installing nvidia drivers?
[20:51] <Sentynel> that way lies pain
[20:51] <JadedJacob> i'm sick of flash video not playing smoothly in full screen
[20:51] <wxl> my understanding is that was a flash problem
[20:52]  * holstein has been sick of flash period for years...
[20:52] <Sentynel> but why install them manually?
[20:52] <Sentynel> I'm not convinced updated drivers will help with that, but there's no reason to manually install
[20:52] <wxl> holstein: why are you following me around irc? ;)
[20:52]  * holstein high-fives wxl !
[20:53] <Sentynel> JadedJacob: https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-x-swat/+archive/x-updates <- latest drivers packaged
[20:53] <wxl> JadedJacob: proof you're barking up the wrong tree https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/flashplugin-nonfree/+bug/346289
[20:54] <wxl> note it's a bug in the flashplugin
[20:54] <wxl> which means it's a problem with adobe
[20:54] <wxl> you're more likely to get an amendment to the consitution in the us than have them care a hoot about linux
[20:54] <holstein> i would try other browsers too JadedJacob ... chrome has its own flash AFAIK
[20:55] <wxl> i will admit that my experience with free flash has not been great :(
[20:55] <Sentynel> also, check for html5 modes on the video player you're using (youtube provides html5 on a lot of videos, for example)
[20:55] <wxl> html5 WILL work
[20:56] <Sentynel> yet another alternative is to use a content downloader of some sort, e.g. the firefox extension DownloadHelper, and watch the downloaded video with VLC or something similar
[20:56] <JadedJacob> holstein: You mean HTML5?
[20:56] <Sentynel> bit of a pest, but it'll run a lot better
[20:57] <JadedJacob> Sentynel, using a downloader, defeats the whole purpose of streaming
[20:57] <kanliot_> actually flash runs pretty fast on my pc, even in 1920x
[20:58] <Sentynel> JadedJacob: not really.. you can start watching while it's still downloading with any decent video player, for example
[20:58] <holstein> JadedJacob: i mean flash... AFAIK, chrome, the actual chrome browser has its own flash
[20:58] <holstein> you can try it for troubleshooting purposes, since that *way* easier than juggling drivers
[20:59] <JadedJacob> *looks for his Windows XP install CD*
[21:02] <JadedJacob> I want to install drivers manually for learing purposes.
[21:03] <Sentynel> then back everything up and make sure you have a spare computer available while you're doing it.
[21:04] <Sentynel> sudo stop lxdm from a tty should shut down x. in my experience there's a 50% chance of the driver install completely killing X, so have fun. and it'll break every time you update the kernel
[21:07] <JadedJacob> OverrideGPUValidation=true seems to have helped
[21:08] <Sentynel> er, I don't know what the switch does or what you fed it to but gpu validation is probably there for a reason.
[21:08] <JadedJacob> I'm up from 2 fps in full screen to 12-19
[21:08] <Sentynel> hrm, interesting
[21:09] <Sentynel> there might be stability problems
[21:11] <JadedJacob> the reason why i want to use a manual driver, is because it's an old card, and ubuntu is probably installing the latest version, released in 2011, i'm trying to install the driver released in 2007
[21:11] <Sentynel> why do you imagine that would help?
[21:12] <Flazer> Jacob, yeah i think it's like they're saying, flash...i'm on an EeePC with built in intel graphics and get the same problem
[21:12] <Flazer> it's not a driver issue, it's a flash issue :(
[21:12] <wxl> …and adobe doesn't care one bit about their linux userbase
[21:13] <Flazer> ya
[21:16] <JadedJacob> I'm trying to get blood out of a stone
[21:19] <Flazer> just a bit
[21:27] <JadedJacob> Right, so down with adobe, what other non-apple player can I use?
[21:27] <wxl> !flash | JadedJacob
[21:27] <wxl> oops
[21:28] <wxl> !Gnash | JadedJacob
[21:30] <JadedJacob> thanks
[21:31] <JadedJacob> I'm going to setup this system as a dual boot
[21:31] <JadedJacob> Windows XP for Flash, lubuntu for everything else
[21:40] <JadedJacob> i've installed the mozilla-plugin-gnash package, how can it it working in firefox
[21:43] <phillw> JadedJacob: the Lord works in mysterious ways... :)
[22:01] <JadedJacob> as in firefox is too recent?
[22:30] <marnold> JadedJacob run dpkg -L mozilla-plugin-gnash
[22:31] <marnold> if you want to know
[22:31] <marnold> otherwise its magic
[23:53] <kanliot> doesn't lubuntu have a beep on errors?
[23:53] <bioterror> explain more
[23:53] <kanliot> like control-g
[23:54] <kanliot> or when i do something stupid in an app
[23:54] <kanliot> you get that beep
[23:54] <kanliot> it's in gnome
[23:54] <bioterror> good for gnome
[23:54] <bioterror> no, lubuntu has no "sound theme's"
[23:55] <kanliot> ok
[23:55] <kanliot> i was typing control g i kinda miss it there
[23:56] <kanliot> i'm gonna see if theres an faq for turning it on
[23:57] <phillw> kanliot: not on our FAQ there is not.
[23:58] <kanliot> man i guess some people don't like the beep
[23:59] <bioterror> you're right
[23:59] <bioterror> first thing I do when I log into windows installation is to change sound theme to no theme. and when I get desktop computer, I unplug the PCSPEACKER -cable