[00:47] <urlin2u> ?join #ubuntu-beginners
[00:48] <EvilResistance> urlin2u, use a / instead of a ? >
[00:48] <EvilResistance> :P
[00:48] <urlin2u> EvilResistance, I know key mistake
[00:48] <EvilResistance> yeah, i know, i'm just making sure :)
[00:49] <urlin2u> EvilResistance, cool .;)
[03:45] <alex_mayorga> launcher no longer auto hides when maximizing windows here, is that intended?
[03:50] <DanaG> As is the "other user" login option.
[03:55] <imnichol> alex_mayorga, in system settings -> appearance in the behavior tab, there's an option to change that
[04:08] <jbicha> alex_mayorga: yes, that's the new default
[06:29] <scriptwarlock> good day everyone, anybody experience a grey out dekstop on alpha 2?
[06:29] <flamoot> your face is more symmetrical than mine and no bar room broken nose andfacial scars likeme
[06:30] <scriptwarlock> *greyed out
[06:30] <urlin2u> !ops | bot flamoot
[06:30] <flamoot> yay misant
[06:30] <flamoot> 第一次来，大家多关照哈
[08:51] <Fudge> hi who can i talk to for info on how to get orca working in xubuntu precise
[08:52] <urlin2u> Fudge, have yhou looked at the orca wiki?
[08:52] <urlin2u> !orca
[08:54] <smjms> http://i.imgur.com/ZSN86.png does anyone else have this problem with GTK programs?
[08:58] <zniavre> smjms,  i guess everybody who updated their precise (gtk+3.0)
[08:58] <zniavre> ambiance radiance theme look more readable at this point
[09:00] <smjms> why wouldn't it use QtCurve like I've selected in the system settings?
[09:36] <cyberdo> problems with the daily build of precise server? I get "no kernel modules were found" during installation ( https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-Mj6EfqHeDfU/TzOSv7S-YwI/AAAAAAAAAmA/XUpmM5cUMKI/s640/20120209_103145.jpg )
[09:37] <Fudge> urlin2u  not sure they ahve a section on the orca wiki for xubuntu
[09:38] <urlin2u> Fudge, it appears to be outdated as well xubuntu is just a the desktop on the same base as ubuntu though, I would doubt there is any difference.
[09:39] <Fudge> urlin2u  i ahve the isos but have muted sound, have to look up the command on a terminal to unmute then can install gnome-orca and see how it goes accessibility wise
[09:39] <Fudge> I imagine that xubuntu boots up as ubuntu into a live xfce session
[09:50] <smjms> zniavre: what do you mean by that?
[09:52] <zniavre> last gtk+ update broke gtk engine and theme
[09:52] <zniavre> smjms, *
[09:54] <smjms> but how would ambiance radiance theme help? and how do I switch to that?
[09:55] <smjms> and is there some PPA that fixes this?
[09:55] <zniavre> im switching theme via dconf-editor (cause i do not know the new way to do it) it can helps you cause themes are broken but readable
[09:56] <zniavre> im trying to fix my own theme but it does not work so im thinking something else is broken or not updated yet
[10:01] <cemc> hi. I have 12.04 64bit on my laptop (upgraded from 11.10). until today things worked just fine. This morning I did an apt-get update, got a lot of packages, and now my gnome/unity desktop freezes a lot
[10:01] <cemc> I can move the mouse, but I can't click on anything, and the only way to bring it back is to go ctrl+alt+f1, and restart lightdm
[10:02] <cemc> which of course closes everything. I can't put my finger on any particular action I'm doing when it freezes, but in the last 2-3 hours it froze like 10 times or so
[10:05] <cemc> I'm using Ubuntu 2D session and fglrx driver
[10:38] <chmac> If I click the x in the top left hand corner of xchat, it quits, rather than minimizing to systray. Same for others? Bug?
[10:42] <Stanley00> chmac: did you see xchat in the message indicator?
[10:42] <chmac> Stanley00: Yes. I'm running xchat, not xchat-gnome, and I have xchat-indicator installed.
[10:44] <Stanley00> chmac: ah, I see, maybe you should see its preferences
[10:44] <chmac> Stanley00: I don't see any preference options relating to the indicator within xchat itself. I can't see any prefs for the indicator anywhere.
[10:45] <Stanley00> chmac: how about Chatting/Alerts/enable system tray icon?
[10:45] <chmac> Stanley00: That's ticked, but now I've unticked it, maybe that'll work.
[10:46] <Stanley00> oops, he quit :))
[10:46] <chmac> Guess not :-)
[10:46] <Stanley00> chmac: mine is ticked ;)
[10:47] <chmac> Stanley00: You're using xchat? You can minimise it to try and have it stay open?
[10:47] <Stanley00> chmac: yep
[10:47] <chmac> Stanley00: How do you minimise, with the X in the top left?
[10:47] <Stanley00> chmac: yes
[10:47] <chmac> Crazy...
[10:48] <chmac> Do you see a tray icon separate from the indicator?
[10:48] <chmac> I whitelisted skype somewhere, but can't remember where, maybe that would add the xchat to the "tray" rather than as an indicator.
[10:48] <Stanley00> chmac: no, there is only in the message indicator
[10:48] <chmac> Stanley00: Hmm, which version of xchat / xchat-indicator are you using?
[10:49] <Stanley00> Package: xchat
[10:49] <Stanley00> Status: install ok installed
[10:49] <Stanley00> Priority: optional
[10:49] <Stanley00> Section: net
[10:49] <Stanley00> Installed-Size: 869
[10:49] <Stanley00> Maintainer: Ubuntu Developers <ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com>
[10:49] <Stanley00> Architecture: i386
[10:49] <chmac> I'm 2.8.8-3ubuntu9 and 0.3.10-0ubuntu3 respectively.
[10:49] <Stanley00> Version: 2.8.8-3ubuntu9
[10:49] <Stanley00> Replaces: xchat-common (<< 1.6.0-1)
[10:49] <Stanley00> Provides: irc
[10:49] <Stanley00> Depends: libc6 (>= 2.7), libdbus-glib-1-2 (>= 0.88), libgdk-pixbuf2.0-0 (>= 2.22.0), libglib2.0-0 (>= 2.24.0), libgtk2.0-0 (>= 2.18.0), liblaunchpad-integration1 (>= 0.1.17), libpango1.0-0 (>= 1.14.0), libperl5.14 (>= 5.14.2), libsexy2 (>= 0.1.8), libssl1.0.0 (>= 1.0.0), libx11-6, xchat-common (= 2.8.8-3ubuntu9)
[10:49] <Stanley00> Recommends: libpython2.7 (>= 2.7), tcl8.5 (>= 8.5.0), esound-clients | alsa-utils, libnotify-bin, xdg-utils
[10:49] <yofel> !paste
[10:49] <Stanley00> Description: IRC client for X similar to AmIRC
[10:49] <Stanley00>  XChat is a graphical IRC Client with a GTK+ GUI. It has a look and feel
[10:49] <Stanley00>  similar to AmIRC for the Amiga. Special features include the mIRC extension
[10:49] <Stanley00>  DCC RESUME and mIRC color, multiple server/channel windows, dialog
[10:49] <Stanley00>  windows, and a plugin API.
[10:49] <Stanley00> Homepage: http://www.xchat.org/
[10:49] <Stanley00> Original-Maintainer: Davide Puricelli (evo) <evo@debian.org>
[10:49] <chmac> yofel: I fear too late for this one...:-)
[10:49] <Stanley00> ooops!
[10:49] <yofel> yeah
[10:49] <Stanley00> Version: 0.3.10-0ubuntu3
[10:50] <Stanley00> just miss the grep command :))
[10:50] <chmac> Stanley00: Did all that include the xchat version no? I can't see it.
[10:50] <chmac> Got it, my bad
[10:51] <chmac> Very, very strange...
[10:51] <chmac> There are some other weird things with my desktop, I wonder if that's connected.
[10:51] <chmac> Stanley00: Well, at least I know it's only on my setup, thanks for that.
[10:51] <Stanley00> chmac: yes, it's strange for me too, now I cant logout via the GUI :D
[10:54] <chmac> I re-enabled the quit dialog, so at least now I won't quit by accident. :-)
[10:54] <Stanley00> =))
[10:56] <chmac> Aha, got it, there's an option when I click the X to "Minimise to Tray" and the option to remember that choice!
[10:56] <chmac> So it must have been previously set to remember to quit. Now it works.
[10:56] <chmac> Stanley00: Thanks a lot, that's been really, really bugging me for ages.
[10:56] <chmac> Awesome. :-)
[11:22] <Fudge> is fglrx fixed yet? last time i installed it compiz went to 100% cpu usage
[13:35] <BluesKaj> Hi all
[13:56] <Daekdroom> Is anyone else having problems with pulseaudio suddenly cutting audio streams?
[14:01] <m4yer> Daekdroom: yes ... till now I thougt it was a bug in clementine ;)
[14:03] <Daekdroom> m4yer, it happened to me with Rhythmbox, Totem, Beatbox, and even Pidgin. But Smplayer is working okay.
[14:04] <Daekdroom> Well, those 4 use gstreamer, and smplayer doesn't.
[14:06] <m4yer> hm, sounds really like a pulseaudio bug, since switching the gstreamer output modul in clementine to alsa fixed it
[14:07] <m4yer> just thought about clementine, since clementine is bugging around with the audio-indicator since laste indicator-update (yesterday?)
[15:23] <jo-erlend> Email from Kate Stewart asks that Nvidia users don't upgrade Precise today.
[15:23] <jo-erlend> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/nvidia-graphics-drivers/+bug/929384
[15:23] <ikonia> great
[15:25] <jo-erlend> just thought I'd propagate the message in case someone doesn't watch their mailboxes all day long. :)
[15:25] <ikonia> a wise move
[15:27] <under> Hi. I would like to installa the new ubuntu 12.04 BETA . Is there a normal cd or only alternate version? Thanks !
[15:30] <arand> There are both,
[15:30] <arand> !install
[15:31] <arand> Hmm, that's not relevant for precise though...
[15:32] <jo-erlend> under, there are live CDs, but there is no beta yet.
[15:32] <under> ok
[15:33] <jo-erlend> the first beta will be released March 1st.
[15:33] <under> what is the difference in alternate?
[15:33] <under> there is just text?
[15:34] <jo-erlend> the alternate installer is text based and installs packages manually. It is much slower, but also requires much less resources. If you have more advanced needs or if you have little memory, etc, it might be for you.
[15:34] <jo-erlend> the desktop CD should be preferable for most users.
[15:35] <under> yes but after installation, i'll get the normal ubuntu?
[15:35] <jo-erlend> in both instances, yes. The result is the same.
[15:36] <under> ok
[15:37] <jo-erlend> on my computer, using the desktop image, installing from memory stick takes about 15 minutes. Using the alternate requires about an hour. I do that because I have software RAID, LVM and btrfs setup, which the desktop CD doesn't handle, or at least not as well. Those are special cases. Otherwise I would always use the desktop image.
[15:38] <jo-erlend> besides, the desktop image allows you to try it first, which is a very smart thing to do.
[15:39] <BluesKaj> jo-erlend,  the alternate text based installer works well with older pcs and hardware in my experience for example my old HP Compaq with single core cpu amd 64 venice 3200+ and 2G RAM , just wouldn't install off the last 3 kubuntu desktop live cds
[15:39] <jo-erlend> right. That's what I said.
[15:41] <arand> !alpha
[15:42] <arand> Hmm, I was thinking there would be a link to the latest point release in some factoid.
[15:56] <yofel> hm, here the nvidia driver works fine.
[15:56] <yofel> I'm on kernel 3.2.0-14 and KDE though if that matters
[15:56] <BluesKaj> nvidia 7600gt on nvidia-current driver after the libc upgrade is running fine here, kubnuntu 12.04 , kde 4.8
[15:57] <yofel> compiz probably uses some obscure opengl feature that kwin doen't use
[15:57] <yofel> *doesn't
[16:10] <hobgoblin> anyone in here using xubuntu completely updated and no music players working
[16:12] <holstein> hobgoblin: i can test that later... im not near my test box.. though it is nearly up to date
[16:13] <hobgoblin> k - thanks holstein
[16:26] <pangolin> Ampelbein: if/when it gets fixed can you let us know to remove it from the topic
[16:27] <Ampelbein> pangolin: sure, will do.
[16:27] <pangolin> thank you
[17:27] <alexsimon877> hi i am trying to get bzr to get the source code for a package but it wont let me.  i uploaded my ssh key to the keyring but bzr says Permission denied (publickey).
[17:29] <Ampelbein> alexsimon877: Did you add the key to your launchpad profile? Also, you might get more help in #launchpad
[17:30] <alexsimon877> okay ill go there, thanks
[17:32] <alexsimon877> Ampelbein, I did add the key to my profile, thats why i am confused as to why I am getting permission denied.
[17:34] <Ampelbein> alexsimon877: There should be a "Help contact" in #launchpad, he should be able to assist you.
[17:36] <alexsimon877> Ampelbein, what nick does the help contact go by?
[17:36] <Ampelbein> alexsimon877: See the topic in that channel, should be "deryck"
[19:37] <hobgoblin> hi - any xubuntu users in here?
[19:39]  * FernandoMiguel side looks at charlie
[19:46] <htorque> hi! did anyone notice a zram swap on their systems? i got this on one of my ubuntu+1 systems and have no idea where it came from. :-?
[19:51] <holstein> hobgoblin: ... what was up? im going to go upgrade my 12.04 install..
[19:52] <hobgoblin> xubuntu - got parole/clementine/gmusicbrowser/audacious - none play music
[19:52] <hobgoblin> which is a bit of a problem lol
[19:52] <holstein> hobgoblin: you see your device in aplay -l ?
[19:52] <holstein> you hear anything?
[19:52] <holstein> hobgoblin: or do you have a bug started?
[19:53] <htorque> mystery solved: it's coming from compcache, installed via caspar, installed by idk. *shrug*
[19:54] <hobgoblin> holstein: yea - aplay sees it fine - and yea I started bugs against all except clementine
[19:55] <hobgoblin> https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/929664 has been confirmed
[19:55] <urlin2u> hobgoblin, hello bro. :)
[19:56] <hobgoblin> hi urlin2u
[19:56] <m4yer> hobgoblin: hat some thing here today^^ mind to try to set clementine output modul to "alsa" fixed it for me ... so i think it's a pulseaudio problem
[19:56] <m4yer> *had same
[19:57] <urlin2u> hobgoblin, argh precise be a workkable OS no be keel hauling it from my camp. :)
[19:57] <hobgoblin> m4yer: I'll try that
[19:57]  * hobgoblin waits for lappy to boot
[20:03] <hobgoblin> m4yer: tried alsa for both clementine and audacious - nothing
[20:04] <hobgoblin> I'll reboot to it on this as well - have a look there
[20:04] <m4yer> hm, ok ..
[20:09] <hobgoblin> m4yer: closer - plays the first track - move to next and it stops
[20:30] <Daekdroom> m4yer, setting output to ALSA will still use pulseaudio regardless.
[20:30] <Daekdroom> I think the issue is within gstreamer pulseaudio plugin
[20:35] <hobgoblin> Daekdroom: vaguely remember an update for that - I really remember updates for gs-bad and -good
[20:35] <hobgoblin> would make sense :)
[21:10] <Manehattan> I'm trying to play a video file, mp4, encoded in h264. mplayer and totem start, they say "playing" but they don't advance in the frames. VLC plays the video fine, but has no sound. VLC has generally no sound, no matter what I try to play in it
[21:18] <johnjohn101> i found a bug with 12.04 and vmware
[21:21] <urlin2u> johnjohn101, oh know what is it?
[21:47] <amit_> what are new changes in 12.04
[21:49] <amit_> this channel looks dead
[21:53] <amit_> what are new changes in 12.04
[21:53] <Daekdroom> You only have to ask once.
[21:54] <amit_> oh sorry iam new to relay chat
[21:57] <johnjohn101> urlin2u:  the bug is that it tries to load unity 3d when the 3d acceleration option is unselected.
[23:07] <FernandoMiguel> anyone using google+?
[23:07] <FernandoMiguel> are hangouts working for you ?
[23:07] <FernandoMiguel> since yesterday, I can't get audio to work
[23:07] <FernandoMiguel> I did see a pulse audio update :\
[23:08] <Daekdroom> FernandoMiguel, I'm having issues with Flash, Rhythmbox, Totem, Beatbox, Pidgin.
[23:08] <Daekdroom> The only software that is working alright is Smplayer.
[23:08] <FernandoMiguel> I have audio
[23:08] <Daekdroom> Well, I have audio sometimes.
[23:08] <FernandoMiguel> pidgin totem, etc seem to work
[23:08] <Daekdroom> It usually stops randomly.
[23:08] <FernandoMiguel> humm
[23:08] <FernandoMiguel> let me pa -k