=== JackyAlcine is now known as ThisCode === ThisCode is now known as JackyAlcine [08:05] good morning all [08:06] Hey there dpm [08:06] hey noodles775, good morning :) [09:39] hi everyone. i am using 12.04 and quickly. i was following the quickly tutorial, but i have come across a problem: http://paste.ubuntu.com/834986/ [09:41] the quickly tutorial says that i should provide only the start and the end iter for the TextView widget's TextBuffer. [09:41] but the error tells me otherwise. can anyone help regarding this? [09:42] hi rigved, which tutorial are you following? [09:44] i typed the quickly tutorial on the cli [09:45] rigved, let me try to reproduce it to see if I can help [09:46] dpm: i was checking http://www.pygtk.org/docs/pygtk/class-gtktextbuffer.html#method-gtktextbuffer--get-text. [09:47] there is a third attribute: include_hidden_chars [09:48] i just now included it in the function call and it worked. [09:49] rigved, ah, cool :) [09:50] dpm: so, it seems like the textbuffer api has changed, right? should i file a bug? [09:51] rigved, I think a bug to update the tutorial would be useful, yes. Which part in the quickly tutorial mentions these arguments? [09:52] dpm: Quickly 11.12 User Guide > Getting Started > Here's the code to get pull the text out of the TextView [09:53] dpm: it's the part where the note data is retrieved from the TextView's TextBuffer. [09:54] dpm: also, i just now noticed that there is a grammatical mistake here: "Here's the code to get pull the text out of the TextView" should be "Here's the code to get/pull the text out of the TextView" or something like that... [09:56] dpm: so, should i file a bug against quickly or is there a separate package for quickly tutorial? [09:57] rigved, thanks, yeah, a bug would be really helpful. Afaik there is only one quickly project, so if you fire up a terminal and run 'ubuntu-bug quickly', it should take you to the right project [09:59] dpm: ok. thanks! [09:59] no worries, thank you! [10:15] bug 929417 [10:15] Launchpad bug 929417 in quickly "Quickly tutorial contains wrong gtk.TextBuffer.get_text function call" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/929417 [10:16] bug 929420 [10:16] Launchpad bug 929420 in quickly "Quickly tutorial contains grammatical mistake" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/929420 [10:17] awesome, thanks rigved! [10:22] dpm: np [19:26] Hello. Are there any Python devs here? [19:31] arslanatajanov, yes, but I'm sure that's not really what you'd like to know. :) [19:31] just blurt out your question and see if someone answers. People aren't always looking at their screens. :) [19:33] Thank you for your prompt reply....Yes, I seek advise... [19:34] I have just finished reading couple books about Python 2.x and 3.x...And I want to start "a little project"... [19:35] Let say I am still new to Python but can do something that is working :) [19:37] in that case, it doesn't really matter which one you begin with. Python 3 is the way forwards, but it has less libraries to play with. [19:39] they aren't radically different. If you learn Python 2 first, then you might get a few bad habits, but other than that the languages are the same. You can start to use mostly Python 3 syntax in Python 2 as well. [19:39] for instance, don't get used to writing things like: print "Test". That won't be allowed in the future, so get used to writing print("Test"), etc. [19:40] So back to my "project"... I am a Biomedical Science student and Computer Science student....And I have noticed that people who are studying with me experience difficulties in finding short and "highly understandable" definitions for various scientific words and phrases...And I thought if it would be possible to create a piece of software which contains a set of short definitions for a large number of scientific termin [19:42] there is a collection of those... But what is it called? [19:44] oh, I misread. I don't know of anything exactly like that. [19:45] arslanatajanov, I think that sounds like a cool project. How do you intend to deliver the application, via a browser or a native desktop experience? [19:48] Via native experience, (and If it is going to be successful I would like to add different features that will need internet connection, I've came up with a whole list of possible features, so its too long to write) :) [19:49] I also know C# and have experience in .NET....So i dont know, what to choose, if I choose C# then i'll need to stick to Windows for a long time...but I really like Ubuntu and want to make something on this platform [19:51] You can develop in C# in Ubuntu using Mono. Or you can use Vala, which is very similar to C# but very much faster and built for Gnome. [19:51] and I wish to use Python because it is more or less portable [19:51] Python is a beautiful language. [19:51] Yes ive heard of it...but I like Python :) [19:52] I would really appreciate if you will provide me with links to some resources with Python apps [19:53] I couldn't find any descent resources on the web by myself [19:57] arslanatajanov, I would look at http://developer.ubuntu.com. [19:57] http://docs.python.org/tutorial is nice. [19:58] of course, there are plenty of apps in Ubuntu itself. Ubuntu One, for instance. [19:58] Hmm..Ok Thank you...Hope I will get something descent in near future. :) [19:59] But I really want to implement it.. [19:59] :) [19:59] http://python-gtk-3-tutorial.readthedocs.org/en/latest/ [19:59] Ok...Thank you again...bye.. [20:00] that's a good one for Python and GTK3 apps. [20:00] wow..that last link seems cool [20:01] I was looking for something like this [20:01] thanks [20:01] Quickly is the first thing you should look at. [20:01] it gets you up and running in minutes. [20:01] ok...need to go...thanks...I've looked at it...and glade...and created couple simple programms [20:02] bye