[00:02] <^zenyhooubbyit> yeah my friend :)
[00:02] <^zenyhooubbyit> om sai ram satyanash :)
[00:06] <^zenyhooubbyit> golden dreams
[01:59] <_schism_> Anyone have any expreiance with ksplice?
[02:01] <Unit193> Uptrack, some
[02:02] <_schism_> Unit193, does it really work without messing stuff up?
[02:02] <Unit193> It's still better to reboot and use the real thing, but I personally see this being better than not doing anything at all
[02:03] <Unit193> It hasn't reallly caused me problems
[02:03] <_schism_> ok have a machine thats sorta a server sorta just sitting there that is funky booting sometimes
[02:04] <Unit193> I use the cli part, and ignore the GUI section
[02:04] <_schism_> so i was looking at it.  whats the worse that can happen I have to reinstall?  :)  and I may want to put awesome or something light on it anyway
[02:05] <Unit193> Tiling, alrighty
[02:05] <_schism_> yeah havnt gotten that far into it yet.  I am still wrapping my head around what it does
[02:05] <_schism_> well tiling is ok but not a huge thing.  just like gnome 2.x and figgure if I am going to have to learn something else anyway
[02:07] <_schism_> I have used lxde before and its ok. but since I am not doing much with it figgured I could play with it a bit
[02:08] <_schism_> and most of it will probably be done vnc so light is nice
[02:08] <Unit193> Yeah, go right ahead
[02:22] <_schism_> if you reboot a system and you have auto login enabled can you log in vnc to select which desktop you can use then login from there?
[08:10] <cahsolo25> hi all
[09:37] <bobet> anybody can help me how to setup raid 10 on ubuntu?
[09:40] <bobet> hi anybody can help me set up raid 10 on ubuntu?
[10:07] <arno-freenode> Hi all
[10:08] <nothingspecial> arno-freenode, wazup?
[10:09] <arno-freenode> Nothing much. Got an issue with my thunderbird icon in the launcher. I mark it to stay there but after the next bootup, it's gone. You guys know how to fix that?
[10:10] <nothingspecial> hmmm, not seeing that here. Is it just thunderbird youre getting this with?
[10:14] <nothingspecial> arno-freenode, You can view the launcher configuration by installing dconf-tools
[10:15] <arno-freenode> will do that, thanks. yep it's just thunderbird's icon
[10:15] <nothingspecial> Then run dconf-editor and going desktop > unity > launcher.  Is thunderbird.desktop in the list?
[10:17] <nothingspecial> Should be a list of apps in the order they appear top to bottom on the launcher
[10:21] <arno-freenode> Alright, I'll do another reboot, just to be sure!
[10:22] <nothingspecial> k
[10:33]  * nothingspecial wonders if it's fixed
[13:38] <deper29> hey, i'm wondering how to ssh to my home computer if I'm not on my local network
[13:38] <deper29> is there anyone who can help me with that?
[13:39] <geirha> deper29: Port forward port 22 on your router to port 22 on your machine running ssh
[13:40] <deper29> geirha, thanks :) I don't have to set up a webserver or something?
[13:41] <geirha> No, a webserver and ssh server are completely separate and do not depend on each other in any way
[13:42] <geirha> Once the port forwarding is set up, you can ssh to your machine by providing the external ip
[13:43] <geirha> If the external ip is dynamic, consider getting a dyndns account. Your router may support it. If it doesn't, you can run a dyndns client on your Ubuntu machine.
[13:43] <deper29> how do I know if my ip is dynamic?
[13:43] <geirha> That would be a question for your ISP :)
[13:44] <geirha> If you don't know, then it probably is dynamic
[13:44] <deper29> haha, I see
[13:44] <geirha> e.g. the ip will change every time you reconnect
[13:44] <deper29> no, it's always the same I believe
[13:45] <geirha> If you open http://www.whatsmyip.org/ from any computer on your local network, it should tell you the external ip
[13:45] <deper29> i'm in the router settings, not sure where port forwarding is. I have setup, wireless, security, access restriction, apps and gaming, admin, status and logoff
[13:45] <deper29> i'll check
[13:45] <deper29> should they all be different then?
[13:46] <geirha> Check out http://portforward.com/  It has step by step instructions on how to forward port for an insane ammount of router models
[13:46] <deper29> they are the same ip on two different machines
[13:47] <geirha> They should be the same
[13:47] <deper29> kk
[13:47] <deper29> I have to pay for this?
[13:47] <geirha> The local ip addresses are not reachable from the outside world
[13:50] <deper29> my isp doesn't support port forwarding it seems :(
[13:50] <geirha> No, I guess they're just trying to make money selling software that simplifies port forwarding
[13:50] <geirha> port forwarding has nothing to do with your isp
[13:51] <sattu94> Port Forwardgin is sometimes labeled as Virtual Servers.
[13:51] <deper29> I see
[13:52] <deper29> I have to contact them and have them make my router bridged
[13:52] <sattu94> I've heard ISPs block incoming port 80 for security issues for Home Plans..
[13:52] <sattu94> deper29: I don't think you need to do that either..
[13:53] <sattu94> deper29: just make your router forward incoming port 22 connections to your local ssh server. Probably labeled under Virtual Servers or Port Forwarding...
[13:55] <deper29> sattu94, could it be port range forwarding?
[13:55] <deper29> it says start to end, protocol, ip address
[13:55] <geirha> yes
[13:56] <deper29> so just do 22 to 22
[13:56] <deper29> tcp
[13:56] <deper29> and would I use ifconfig to find my ipaddress and put that in there?
[13:57] <geirha> yes, or    ''ip -4 addr''
[13:59] <deper29> geirha, when I want to ssh now, which ip address am I using? my external, or the computer's?
[13:59] <geirha> the external
[13:59] <geirha> that's the ip your router has on the internet side.
[14:00] <geirha> And when you connect to port 22 on your router, it will look up in the port forwarding table and send the packets to port 22 on your computer's ip
[14:01] <deper29> giving this a shot now :)
[14:02] <geirha> And of course, if it doesn't find an entry for port 22 in the port forwarding table, it'll just drop the packets.
[14:02] <deper29> it works :)
[14:02] <sattu94> I was wondering, how is the internal servers reply relayed back to the outside computer ?
[14:03] <deper29> thanks a bunch, geirha :D
[14:04] <geirha> sattu94: Exactly how it does that, I don't know. #networking can probably answer that.
[14:04] <sattu94> Or maybe, the destination for the outgoing packets is the same as the actual address of the outside computer since that is how normal packets are sent..
[14:05] <deper29> is there anyway to make it so I don't have to type the ip address each time?
[14:05] <deper29> *any way
[14:05] <sattu94> aahh.. DynDNS or No-IP could help here..
[14:06] <sattu94> I think, DynDNS removed their free services ?
[14:06] <geirha> deper29: Yes, also check if your router has dyndns support, because that will be the easiest way to get it working.
[14:06] <geirha> I think they're still free, but they only allow one name now. They used to allow many, for free.
[14:07] <sattu94> I can't seem to find a page on their site allowing me to create a free dynamic updating host redirect.. My router has support for it.. but I am forced to use No-IP on my internal client.. fortunately noip2 auto updating client is in the repositories..
[14:07] <geirha> You just get the dynds pro free trial
[14:07] <sattu94> oh.
[14:08] <sattu94> so there is no time limit ?
[14:08] <deper29> sattu94, just do the trial. no time limit
[14:08] <deper29> it says it lets you keep one host
[14:08] <sattu94> ohh.. COOL.. :D
[14:08] <sattu94> Thanks!
[14:08] <geirha> There is a time-limit of 30 days
[14:08] <sattu94> :(
[14:08] <geirha> So if you disconnect from the internet a whole month, you lose the name
[14:09] <sattu94> ohh.. that way..
[14:09] <geirha> But as long as you're connected, it will live on.
[14:09] <sattu94> it's not likely to happen.. :)
[14:09] <deper29> "Note that only valid major credit cards can be used for Pro trials, not PayPal. If you decide not to continue with Pro, just cancel your Pro trial within the first 14 days and you will not be charged. You may keep one hostname free of charge for trying the Pro Trial."
[14:09] <geirha> I use that myself
[14:09] <deper29> oh, I see
[14:09] <sattu94> you NEED a credit card ?
[14:10] <geirha> Hm. I've never been bothered by credit card from then. Then again, it's years since I registered an account there.
[14:11] <sattu94> because I don't have a bank account..
[14:11] <geirha> Perhaps try a less crappy service, then.
[14:11] <sattu94> yea.. I'm already using No-IP.. :)
[14:12] <sattu94> Thanks Anyway.. :)
[14:12] <deper29> is no-ip free?
[14:12] <sattu94> yea..
[14:12] <geirha> Ah I see, "No Longer Free" it says. I guess the ones that got it before that gets to keep it for free then
[14:12] <geirha> http://dnslookup.me/dynamic-dns/
[14:12] <sattu94> no CC required..
[14:13] <geirha> deper29: Sorry for the confusion :)
[14:13] <deper29> ah, gotcha :P
[14:15] <sattu94> But you always get the .<service_name>.org thing on all free dynamicIP services..
[14:16] <deper29> geirha, okay, so I have a dyndns account now :P
[14:17] <geirha> Look through your router's web interface for something like "Dynamic DNS", and put in the username and password and stuff there
[14:17] <geirha> Not all routers support it though
[14:17] <deper29> mine does
[14:17] <geirha> Great. :)
[14:17] <deper29> but the last thing it asks for is host name
[14:17] <deper29> where do I find that on dyndns?
[14:18] <geirha> It should've asked you what hostname you wanted when you registered
[14:18] <deper29> yeah, found out
[14:18] <deper29> couldn't remember the last part :P
[14:19] <deper29> so now to ssh, just ssh deper29@my.domain:22?
[14:19] <geirha> ssh deper29@my.domain
[14:20] <geirha> 22 is the default port, and you don't provide the port with :portnum
[14:20] <deper29> gotcha :)
[14:22] <deper29> sweet
[14:22] <deper29> works perfectly :D
[14:22] <deper29> so if i'm right, i can cancel my subscription to dyndns and it will let me keep my hostname?
[14:23] <geirha> No, I don't think so.
[14:23] <deper29> darn, so I have to pay then?
[14:23] <geirha> I think it's just those who registered their dyndns accounts years ago that get to keep it still
[14:24] <deper29> I see
[14:24] <geirha> I wasn't aware they had turned completely non-free; I expected them to have sent me an email about it if that was the case
[14:25] <geirha> So sattu94's suggestion for no-ip.com sounds like your best bet.
[14:25] <deper29> might have to give that a whirl
[14:25] <deper29> i always hear that I shouldn't use port 22
[14:26] <deper29> should I change that? or is that a big deal?
[14:26] <sattu94> I use 24..
[14:26] <geirha> Not a big deal if your password is complex enough
[14:26] <geirha> I use port 22
[14:26] <sattu94> I use KEYS.. :D
[14:26] <bioterror> I use defaults, becouse I'm lazy to change when I login
[14:27] <deper29> with keys though, can't I not connect from something outside my network?
[14:27] <bioterror> thoho
[14:27] <geirha> You could install the fail2ban package. It will temporarily ban ips if they do too many failed ssh connections
[14:27] <bioterror> I have denyhosts
[14:28] <deper29> so I could use either of those, and use keys?
[14:28] <geirha> so they'll get like maybe 6 attempts, then have to wait 24 hours to try 6 new attempts. At that rate, they'll "never" find your password.
[14:28] <bioterror> 6 is too much
[14:28] <sattu94> Hmm.. Nice trick..
[14:28] <sattu94> haha..
[14:28] <bioterror> I have 3 and it wont get removed
[14:29] <sattu94> One can manually remove it right ?
[14:29] <bioterror> yes
[14:29] <sattu94> I've got to look into denyhosts..
[14:29] <bioterror> it also syncs ip addresses from their database
[14:29] <bioterror> I have ~70k ip addresses
[14:31] <sattu94> not good..
[14:31] <sattu94> it is.
[14:31] <deper29> once I ssh in, can I have access to a gui? or am I limited to command?
[14:31] <deper29> er, shell
[14:32] <geirha> just a shell, but you could install something like freenx or x2go to log in graphically
[14:32] <deper29> ah, gotcha
[14:33] <sattu94> I've seen graphical applications through ssh.. using native X libraries.. but showing stuff from the other end..
[14:33] <geirha> Aye, that's X11forwarding.
[14:33] <sattu94> oh.
[14:33] <geirha> ssh -X username@hostname
[14:34] <geirha> Then if you run a gui program on the remote, it will use your local X server
[14:34] <geirha> But it's fairly slow
[14:35] <deper29> bioterror, using denyhosts. is it the PURGE_DENY that I want to alter to set how long until someone can reattempt?
[14:35] <sattu94> geirha: Tried it, it's slow over the internet.. but fast for local stuff ^_^
[14:36] <bioterror> yes
[14:36] <bioterror> it will remove then
[14:36] <bioterror> I have never purge
[14:36] <sattu94> Bye.. :)
[14:36] <geirha> freenx runs a gnome session (or kde or whatever session you choose) via ssh, but it adds some cashing and compression to make it feel faster.
[14:37] <sattu94> I could try all that once I get home..
[14:37] <deper29> bioterror, where do you set how long after too many failed attempts until they can retry?
[14:37] <bioterror> what?
[14:37] <deper29> in denyhosts.conf
[14:39] <bioterror> read the config
[14:40] <bioterror> with thought
[14:40] <bioterror> there's explained the format
[19:51] <writerbella> hello?
[19:51] <writerbella> this is new for me but i need help
[19:52] <hobgoblin> hi writerbella - ask your question and if someone can help they will jump in
[19:54]  * bioterror goes to grab his cape and spandexes
[19:54] <writerbella> I have downloaded ubunto (which i love!)  but it goes through the install and then after reboot im froze out
[19:54] <bioterror> thanks plymouth :-)
[19:55] <bioterror> hard to find out in which part it hangs and for what reason
[19:55] <bioterror> writerbella, what happens if you press "esc" key?
[19:56] <writerbella> nothing
[19:56] <writerbella> I really need it to install, i use it all the time for my writing and art
[19:57] <bioterror> sounds really funny, that you can go to graphical installer and install it
[19:57] <bioterror> but when it's time for first reboot, nadda
[19:58] <hobgoblin> writerbella: do you know what sort of graphics card you have?
[19:59] <writerbella> this is stupid question, but where do i find it?  no i dont, new computer for me (used one though)
[20:00] <writerbella> i sometimes get an error message saying some temp folder on computer system is missing
[20:00] <bioterror> sounds like broken installation
[20:00] <bioterror> have you tried to install it again?
[20:01] <writerbella> yes. i have uninstalled and reinstalled
[20:02] <writerbella> i even tried downloading and installing wubi, i was told it was the best
[20:07] <bioterror> www
[20:07] <bioterror> what?
[20:07] <bioterror> wubi is far from the best
[20:07] <writerbella> seriously???????
[20:08] <writerbella> dang, is that the problem?
[20:08] <bioterror> do you need Windows for something?-)
[20:08] <urlin2u> writerbella, how about some info from a primary source the designer them selves.   http://howsoftwareisbuilt.com/2009/03/12/interview-with-agostino-russo-wubi-ubuntu/
[20:09] <tenach> Hello! I'm using Ubuntu 11.10 and when i go to log in, Nautilus is the only thing that starts up. I get the Nautilus file menu bar at the top of my screen instead of Unity...
[20:09] <writerbella> this stupid used computer has win xp installed on it.  ewwwww
[20:09] <bioterror> writerbella, install ubuntu over it
[20:10] <bioterror> writerbella, one operating system, one love
[20:10] <urlin2u> =bias bioterror
[20:10] <writerbella> how do i do that???  sorry if stupid question.  my love is ubuntu
[20:10] <urlin2u> :)
[20:10] <bioterror> writerbella, you download ubuntu cd image and you install it ;)
[20:11] <bioterror> http://www.ubuntu.com/download/ubuntu/download
[20:11] <bioterror> CD is mostly idiot proof
[20:12] <writerbella> since my brain injury i forgot alot. lol.  i went to that site, not what?  lol
[20:14] <writerbella> sorry i misstyped, meant now what
[20:15] <bioterror> writerbella, you download ubuntu
[20:15] <bioterror> and then you make CD or USB
[20:15] <bioterror> I would make a CD
[20:15] <writerbella> it keeps taking me to wubi as the installer
[20:16] <writerbella> i will make one
[20:16] <bioterror> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BootFromCD
[20:18] <writerbella> okay, trying again right now
[20:35] <writerbella> once its downloaded, i burn it to disc right?
[20:40] <urlin2u> writerbella, yeah burn as an image at slow speed.
[20:48] <writerbella> how do i do that?
[21:59] <writerbella> nick
[21:59] <writerbella> writerladybella
[21:59] <Bodsda> writerbella: you missed the /
[22:00] <writerbella> lol. thank you, this is new
[22:00] <Unit193> /nick writerladybella
[22:02] <writerbella> thank you
[22:09] <writerbella> i am seeing if it worked. :)
[22:12] <writerbella> it isnt working. how in the world do i get it to let me change my nick?
[22:28] <Unit193> You got it
[22:28] <writerladybella> i did, thank you.  :)
[22:29] <Unit193> Yep, now if you want to register it, see !nicksetup
[22:30] <writerladybella> where or how do i get to that?  sorry if stupid questions
[22:31] <Unit193> !nicksetup
[22:31] <ubot2> To setup your nick so that you can be given a cloak, please follow the instructions here: http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#nicksetup
[23:28] <Budget> Hopefully someone can help me with this.  I want to join the Bug Squad, but I'm having a hard time finding out what to do.  Could someone explain how I should go about it, ideally like I was a small, not terribly bright child.
[23:38] <phillw> Budget: have you had a read of https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BugSquad ?