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slangasekbarry: I see bug #911124 is assigned to you; did you sync sphinx from Debian (pulling python-support back into main ;)?00:26
ubottuLaunchpad bug 911124 in sphinx (Ubuntu) "Please sync python-sphinx 1.1.2 from Debian experimental" [Wishlist,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/91112400:26
barryslangasek: i'm on it already :)00:26
slangasekok :-)00:26
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pittiGood morning04:36
pittitomreyn: no, it's in: update-manager | 1: | oneiric-proposed | source, all04:38
pittibarry, SpamapS: still here?04:48
ajmitchmorning pitti04:50
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mbieblpitti: morning!05:36
pittihey mbiebl05:36
pittimbiebl: another early riser :)05:36
mbieblyou've been up since an hour ago :-)05:37
mbieblpitti: just had a look a the pygobject bug05:37
mbiebllooks like the upload wasn't bug-fix only05:37
mbieblthis requires glib 2.3105:37
pittioh, how's that?05:38
mbieblI'm wondering how it built...05:38
pittiGValue isn't exactly new?05:39
mbieblpitti: the _schar functions were added after .3005:39
pitti/build/buildd-pygobject_3.1.0-1-i386-WbEc0E/pygobject-3.1.0/gi/pygi-property.c:124:13: warning: implicit declaration of function 'g_value_get_schar' [-Wimplicit-function-declaration]05:39
mbieblright, that's the one05:39
pittimbiebl: indeed; I'll revert that bit then, it doesn't work for chars yet anyway05:39
pittimbiebl: thanks for spotting05:40
mbiebllooks like python on the kbsd buildds is borked05:41
mbieblat least the test-suite runs into a timeout05:41
mbieblthe same for pygtk which I uploaded yesterday05:41
pittiI want to backport some more fixes from trunk anyway05:41
pittiyeah, saw :/05:41
pittimbiebl: still curious how that linked..05:42
mbieblI first thought you had built in on precise05:43
mbieblwhen I realised that the other buildds had built it, too05:43
mbieblhm, it's a loadable module05:43
pittimbiebl: so, sorry for that blunder; will fix right away05:44
mbieblnah, np05:44
mbieblpitti:  #659184 is the corresponding bug report05:50
pittiah, thanks; I just had a look, seems it's not in the PTS yet05:50
pittimbiebl: uploaded06:08
mbieblpitti: thanks06:12
hyperairjpds: ping.07:56
hyperairjpds: would you be interested in getting ubumirror into debian?07:56
pittijibel: I believe the current alternate/server failure galore is due to a missing linux-meta upload for -15; I can't prove it, though, there are no useful logs08:18
pittiapw, smb`: ^ I can haz -meta for -15?08:18
pittiI'd upload it myself, but that would disrupt your git08:19
jibelpitti, good morning. right kernel version change.08:19
jibelpitti, colin uploaded d-i 20101020ubuntu10708:20
pittiyes, and the seeds are fine, too; just linux-meta missing08:20
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pittijibel: seems oneiric-universe is again due to bug 91715308:21
ubottuLaunchpad bug 917153 in libreoffice (Ubuntu Precise) "failed to upgrade from oneiric to precise: /usr/lib/libreoffice/program/unopkg.bin: error while loading shared libraries: libicule.so.48: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/91715308:21
* smb looks slightly sleepy08:21
* pitti hands smb a cup of steaming coffee08:22
smbpitti, Thanks, got one in front of me... now I just need to drink it :)08:22
jibelpitti, re kernel version, i386 passed, isn't it just a matter of respining amd64 to pull latest packages ?08:23
pittismb: do you think it's responsible to do a changelog-only package upload at this hour? :-)08:23
pittijibel: no, it didn't? https://jenkins.qa.ubuntu.com/view/Precise/job/precise-upgrade-oneiric-universe/lastFailedBuild/ARCH=i386,LTS=non-lts,PROFILE=universe,label=upgrade-test/08:23
jibelpitti, I meant alternate/server install failure08:23
pittijibel: oh, sorry, wrong failure08:23
smbpitti, Certainly not. Not sure _when_ I did the last upload of a kernel package08:24
pittijibel: hm, curious how it passed -- it shouldn't08:24
smbEh I man I can try again :)08:24
jibelpitti, packages are not the same version on both arch08:24
smbIf I finally am able to read correctly08:24
pittijibel: I figure if we respin now, i386 will fail as well08:24
pittijibel: I think I'll wait on smb's -meta upload, and respin when that published08:25
jibelpitti, k08:25
pittijibel: ah, seems lucid->precise got a little further after the qtdbus fix; at least we now have two errors in one log, yay for slight parallelization :)08:27
pittijibel: are you interested in tracking the bugs (just filed 929381, for example), or don't you care?08:31
smbpitti, Now lets see how much worth that coffee was... Think I uploaded some meta08:34
pittismb: AFAIK it's just bumping the version in changelog, no other changes08:34
smbpitti, It is. And there was something already in git with that08:35
pittismb: but as it's in git, us mere mortals can't easily do that08:35
smbProbably just held back until the compile08:35
diwicdholbach, ping08:35
pittismb: ah, uploaded in ogasawara's name :) thanks08:35
dholbachdiwic, pong08:35
smbpitti, Yeah, did all the real work anyway :)08:36
diwicdholbach, two things: First, I vaguely remember me signing up for "writing a launchpad script that summarises ppa owners"08:36
jibelpitti, I am interested if they are found with automated tests.08:37
pittijibel: yes, both are08:37
pitti(that's where I got them from)08:37
diwicdholbach, the idea was to contact ppa owners to see if they wanted to step up and maintain the official thing08:37
pittijibel: they seem to be at least partially fallout from the kvm envirionment08:37
pittijibel: bug 929381, bug 92938208:37
ubottuLaunchpad bug 929381 in cgroup-lite (Ubuntu Precise) "init script fails to start" [High,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/92938108:37
ubottuLaunchpad bug 929382 in lxc (Ubuntu Precise) "package fails to install: SIOCSIFNETMASK: Cannot assign requested address" [High,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/92938208:37
pitticgroup-lite installs fine on my real workstation, tryign in kvm now08:38
diwicdholbach, but I'm overwhelmed with audio bugs, and it feels more efficient if I do the audio bugs and someone familiar with launchpad hacking would do that script08:38
diwicdholbach, and I can't even find the blueprint. Do you remember which one it was?08:38
diwicdholbach_, did you get all of that?08:40
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dholbachdiwic, pong08:40
diwicdholbach, repeating in PM08:40
dholbachno, I'm sorry08:40
dholbachok great08:40
pittijibel: hm, is /proc/cgroups nonempty in the environment of the upgrader?08:41
pittijibel: oh, I figure it's running under a lucid kernel; I'll try reproducing that08:42
jibelpitti, looking08:45
pittijibel: hold on for now, I'll debug this locally first08:45
jibelpitti, k08:45
smbpitti, Just from my random playing around with things. Usually when you looked at lxc you were told in the past that you need to mount cgroups somewhere. So I would not find it completely unexpected that some prople will have it in the fstab already.08:49
pittismb: ah, so perhaps lxc failed because cgroup-lite failed08:49
smbpitti, Might be. I remember having seen something (if I could remember the symptoms) coming from automount when in precise cgroups gets mounted before and you still have it in fstabs08:50
smbNot sure that was detected in the installer...08:51
smbI mean the problem08:51
smbThink the upgrade went ok, but on reboot there was something wrong until I cleaned up fstab08:52
pittiright, I can reproduce on a lucid live system08:52
alkisgHi, are there plans to switch thunderbird to the rapid release cycle too, so that we have thunderbird 10, 11 etc  in Lucid? Or that was only for firefox?08:53
pittiI think it's the plan08:54
alkisgThank you :)08:56
pittimicahg or chrisccoulson will know better08:56
pittijibel: hm, I cannot reproduce bug 929382 in a lucid live system09:11
ubottuLaunchpad bug 929382 in lxc (Ubuntu Precise) "package fails to install: SIOCSIFNETMASK: Cannot assign requested address" [High,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/92938209:11
apwsmb, did you do the meta upload?  else will do it shortly09:12
pittiapw: yes, it's in09:13
smbapw, done09:13
cjwatsonpitti: d-i failed to build on amd64 which didn't help.  I've just uploaded a fix.  I haven't looked at the logs but I doubt linux-meta had much to do with it.09:15
pitticjwatson: ah, ok; but it should have independently failed due to the API mismatch, I guess?09:16
cjwatsonthat's exactly what the failure was09:17
pitticjwatson: thanks09:17
cjwatsonarguably the CD build should have failed but it would still have been a failure :)09:17
cjwatsonnot sure why that didn't happen, no time to look now09:17
pitticjwatson: np09:19
eitchjoin #evince09:24
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jacekmigaczhow to remove seat once created by lightdm?10:12
pittiinfinity: it seems https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/libnih/1.0.3-4ubuntu7/+build/3197190 is stuck (didn't change in over an hour)10:27
pitticould that be killed, and we'll try it again?10:27
pitticjwatson, jibel: d-i and linux-meta are published, rebuilding alternate/server10:46
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infinitypitti: Stuck how?  Are you sure you're not just being impatient? :)11:16
pittiinfinity: "stuck" in the sense of https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/libnih/1.0.3-4ubuntu7/+build/3197190 not changing for two hours11:17
infinitypitti: It historically takes about 4.5 hours on a machine of that class.  I wouldn't complain until it passes that.11:17
pittithe build should take 1:15 in total11:17
pitti(the last build did, anyway)11:17
pittiinfinity: but 2 hours to compile a single .c file?11:17
infinitypitti: The last build was probably on a faster machine...11:17
pittiinfinity: well, if that's "normal", I can certainly just wait further11:17
infinityI'm willing to believe it's broken, but there are also some things that, yes, will take hours on a single file.11:18
infinitySo, until it passes 5ish...11:18
infinityhttps://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/libnih/1.0.3-4ubuntu2/+build/2571092 <-- 4.5h11:18
pittiinfinity: thanks!11:19
infinitypitti: The good news is that Very Soon Now, all those old machines are going away.11:19
mptmvo, hi, did you ever see <https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel/2012-January/034714.html>?11:44
navaHi all11:51
nava I make a design for let users to choose want to have full screen with luncher or without it. where should i send it ?11:51
pittistgraber: I would appreciate if you could take a look at bug 929382 and see whether my proposal would be acceptable12:00
ubottuLaunchpad bug 929382 in lxc (Ubuntu Precise) "package fails to install: SIOCSIFNETMASK: Cannot assign requested address" [High,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/92938212:00
pittihallyn: ^ you, too, as the last uploader12:00
pittiif it is, I'd like to do an upload12:01
mvompt: hello! no I didn't, but I'm also not involved with apt-mirror12:14
mptoh, ok12:15
pittiinfinity: ah, done now \o/12:27
lamontsh: 1: /usr/bin/gdbus: not found13:00
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seb128lamont, install glib?13:00
lamontseb128: I'm more curious as to why the natural order of things didn't install it for me...13:01
lamontcurrent precise, mythbuntu box13:01
seb128lamont, what do you run to get that error?13:01
lamontapt-get update13:01
lamontHit http://us.archive.ubuntu.com precise-updates/universe Translation-en13:02
lamontsh: 1: /usr/bin/gdbus: not found13:02
lamontReading package lists... Done13:02
lamontto place it in context13:02
lamontwhich appears to be apt.conf.d/20packagekit just blindly doing its thing13:03
lamontI shall file the packagekit bug13:05
seb128what an idea to use that ;-)13:05
lamontyeah, hopefully it's a more valid bug that my last one. :(13:07
lamontE: Internal Error, No file name for libc613:07
lamontuh... wut?13:08
lamont(apt is mad about libc6 deps, apt-get -f install fails as above)13:08
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melodieI am actually editing a page of the wiki containing infos for build requests for Openbox 3.5.0. I will now add imlib2 devel which is an optional lib.14:00
melodiecould someone tell me what is the right name for this package at Ubuntu ?14:00
melodieimlib2 devel when used as a build request allows getting icons in the openbox menus (since 3.5.0) such as here:14:02
melodiethis is why I am adding it to this page now.14:02
melodiecking, ? AaronMT ? do you know about imlib2 devel package name please ?14:03
AaronMTPlease dont ping random people.14:03
melodieyou just arrived. sorry (oops)14:04
melodieare you angry ?14:04
pittimelodie: libimlib2-dev14:05
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melodieI thought it was important to let some members of the devel team I will edit this page14:05
pitti"apt-cache search imlib dev"14:05
melodiethanks pitti14:05
pitti-dev is the standard name for development packages in Debian/Ubuntu14:06
melodiepitti, this is not my distro. I did same at fedora devel chan. just giving info about this edit while looking for the right package name. thanks14:06
pittimvo: do you know what's wrong with https://jenkins.qa.ubuntu.com/view/Precise/job/precise-softwarecenter-amd64/ and what it's supposed to test?14:06
pittimelodie: you can use the same for Debain14:06
mvopitti: its the software-center testsuite14:07
pittimelodie: (and Mint, etc.)14:07
melodieI was just wondering about it : thanks !14:07
pittimvo: ah, like running "make check" in a checked out tree?14:07
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pittimvo: is it supposed to fail, or is that due to running in the autotest environment?14:07
mvopitti: its the environment I think14:08
pittimvo: well, "supposed to fail" is certainly bogus, I  meant "fail locally as well"14:08
melodiedone : http://openbox.org/wiki/Help:Installing#Dependencies_in_Ubuntu_and_Debian14:08
jibelpitti, it does a make check14:08
melodiehave a nice day, bye now !14:08
jibelpitti, and probably failing because a test requires and external resources blocked by a fw14:09
pittihttps://jenkins.qa.ubuntu.com/view/Precise/job/precise-softwarecenter-amd64/45/console is a bit of a messy read14:09
pittiUnable to find the server at recommender.ubuntu.com14:09
pittiyeah, seems like it14:09
pittiDatabaseOpeningError: Couldn\'t stat \'/var/lib/apt-xapian-index/inde14:10
pittithat seems solvable, though14:10
mvopitti: yeah14:11
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ubottuUbuntu bug 929384 in nux (Ubuntu) "unity_support_test crashed with SIGSEGV" [High,Confirmed]14:21
seb128the libc update broken nvidia drivers14:21
seb128"Happens here too, when running the nvidia-current driver from precise.14:22
seb128It also makes gnome-shell crash on startup.14:22
seb128this is caused by the eglibc update (2.13-24ubuntu4 -> 2.15~pre6-0ubuntu10). I reverted it, it's fine now."14:22
tseliotseb128: I haven't updated the nvidia driver for a while now so eglibc is more likely to be the culprit14:26
hallynpitti: that (bug 929382) sounds fine14:26
ubottuLaunchpad bug 929382 in lxc (Ubuntu Precise) "package fails to install: SIOCSIFNETMASK: Cannot assign requested address" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/92938214:26
hallynpitti: i think it's what i meant to do14:27
seb128tseliot, right, I just wonder if the nvidia drivers are doing something weird that lead to issues with the new libc14:28
seb128or if that's a bug with libc itself14:28
seb128cjwatson, slangasek, pitti, skaet: ^ nvidia drivers broken by the libc update today14:28
seb128that let quite some users without a working computer14:28
seb128not sure what to do about it but I think it should be raised14:28
seb128that's on precise14:28
tseliotseb128: maybe we should revert the upload and then I can discuss this issue with Nvidia14:29
seb128tseliot, not easy as fabian wrote14:30
seb128"(but reverting this libc6 is not easy as more packages are rebuild for it, leading to failing GLIBC_2.15 version checks everywhere)"14:30
pittiseb128: that was already with the 2.15~pre version, I take it?14:30
pittibecause 2.15 final is still building14:30
seb128pitti, yes14:31
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rbasakIs there a way to run sbuild but with an extra local repository added to resolve build dependencies from?14:34
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seb128rickspencer3, is there any official way to raise precise brekages?14:41
rickspencer3seb128, I'm not sure what you mean14:43
seb128rickspencer3, the libc update from today break nvidia binary drivers and let precise user without a working machine14:43
seb128rickspencer3, I mentioned it on the channel but nobody seems to be around14:44
seb128rickspencer3, is there any official way to flag that we have an issue and should deal with it?14:44
rickspencer3seb128, can you raise it with the +1 maintenance team?14:44
seb128rickspencer3, should that be broadcasted in some way so users don't upgrade?14:44
seb128rickspencer3, where,who,how?14:44
rickspencer3is barry barry warsaw?14:45
jelmerrickspencer3: the one and only14:45
rickspencer3seb128, also, can you tell skaet, she can use the twitter/identica account to broadcast a "do not upgrade" message14:45
seb128rickspencer3, I did a 25 minutes ago, waiting for her to be around or reply14:46
Laneycan you get it blocked on the mirrors?14:48
seb128Laney, I would like to know ;-)14:48
seb128but seems none of the rt people are around atm14:49
Laney#-release informs me that skaet might be in mumble14:49
Laneygo gatecrash :P14:49
skaetseb128, rickspencer3 - on a call on 10.04.4,  reading backscroll.   Will get on it.14:49
seb128skaet, thanks14:50
cjwatsonI'm not sure what we can do about libc - as noted, reverting it would cause widespread chaos14:52
cjwatsondo we know precisely why nvidia breaks?14:52
cjwatson(getting it blocked on the mirrors would be very bad too IMO)14:52
seb128cjwatson, no, just limited to what is in the bug14:53
seb128I don't have an nvidia card myself14:53
seb128but olli and some other people on IRC ran into the bug14:53
cjwatsonthere doesn't seem to be a useful stacktrace in the bug14:54
seb128no :-(14:54
stgraberyeah, we already rebuilt libnih on the new libc and then uploaded a new upstart, so reverting it would likely break most if not all existing systems.14:54
seb128I'm not sure we have debug symbols for nvidia binary drivers14:54
cjwatsonI suspect it needs somebody with an affected system who's competent to debug it interactively, at least as far as diagnosing e.g. an affected libc symbol or something14:56
seb128tseliot, ^14:56
seb128tseliot, do you have any precise nvidia box, any chance you could look at it?14:56
smoserhey. i'm in need of some help. bug 929523.14:56
ubottuLaunchpad bug 929523 in bacula (Ubuntu) "bacula-director does not start, dummy libbaccats " [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/92952314:56
cjwatsonif we're lucky we just need to rebuild something14:56
ahasenackI have an nvidia desktop box that wasn't updated yet, running precise 32bits14:57
pittimvo: the point release process says "Ping mvo to update meta-release file on http://changelogs.ubuntu.com/"14:57
tseliotseb128: yes, I do and I'll have a look at it14:57
pittimvo: this is "release - 6 days", which would be tomorrow14:57
barrypitti: hey, can we chat sometime today about +1?15:02
tseliotseb128: unfortunately my 1st machine with nvidia died (I don't know what hardware issue that is but I can't even access the BIOS). Fortunately I also have a laptop that I can use but it will probably take a while...15:02
mvopitti: ok, I guess ideally this should be done on the day of the release instead, its just chaning the number from 10.04.x to x+115:02
smosersorry.. back with a bit more information on that bug now. (in the last comment).15:03
smoseri'm running into dh_shlibdeps complaining but it seems that bacula is doing what it intends to do.15:03
pittimvo: ah, thanks15:03
pittimvo: I'll update the wiki page15:03
pgranercjwatson, I have an un updated nvidia box, if you want me to break it15:03
mvopitti: thanks!15:05
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pittibarry: In a meeting, and need to run out in ~ 20 mins, but yes, let's have a quick chat in a sec15:08
barrypitti: cool. i'm over in #ubuntu+1-maint15:08
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tjaaltoncould an archive admin give gst-plugins-bad a push, it's in NEW due to libs&dev being split15:13
pittitjaalton: done15:15
tjaaltonpitti: thanks! now on to gstreamer-vaapi..15:15
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rbasakIs there a way to run sbuild but with an extra local repository added to resolve build dependencies from?15:36
cyphermoxrbasak: when I've had to do that I resorted to editing sources.list in the source schroot and doing the build, then reverting the change once done.15:39
cyphermoxrbasak: I have no idea how it would be done otherwise -- anyway, sbuild doesn't seem to have a switch to do it.15:40
rbasakThanks cyphermox - maybe I'll patch sbuild to add a switch one day, but I'll use your hack in the meantime15:41
rbasakcyphermox: did you use an http repo somewhere, or a local file one? And if a local file one, did you add that to the source chroot or something?15:41
cyphermoxit might be useful, if say you want to enable universe for just one build, test builds against a particular PPA, etc.15:41
rbasakI'm trying to do a test rebuild of a dependent package - it fails in a PPA, but I can't figure out why.15:42
cyphermoxrbasak: I was using reprepro to manage a local repository hosted in on my system with apache, in ~/public_html/15:42
rbasak(it succeeded for me doing it manually in a chroot)15:42
janimorbasak, sbuild --pre-build-commands15:42
janimoI wonder if it cannot add a new apt sources file in /15:42
rbasakjanimo, the part I don't understand is how to get my local repository into the chroot15:43
janimorbasak, ah the files themselves from a local filesystem?15:43
cyphermoxrbasak: with that --pre-build-commands I guess you could echo a file in /etc/apt/sources.list.d for your local repo15:44
janimochroot-setup-commands too15:44
rbasakI have a pile of debs. Usually I "dpkg-scanpackages . /dev/null|gzip -9>Packages.gz" and then add "file:///path/to/dir /" in sources.list15:44
janimonot sure how to copy files in there though15:44
cyphermoxrbasak: oh, that's why I was using a local apache15:44
rbasakyeah that's the bit where I'm stuck :)15:44
* janimo used sbuild a week ago for the first time15:45
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cyphermoxotherwise if you use the security team's sbuild howto to bind mount /home you could leave the files there?15:45
rbasakAh, a bind mount would be awesome15:45
cyphermoxrbasak: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SecurityTeam/BuildEnvironment ; point number 515:46
rbasakthanks cypermox - but what are ddebs?15:50
cyphermoxdebugging symbols packages15:52
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rbasakI see - so irrelevant to me?15:53
cyphermoxrbasak: probably15:58
brendanddid the google talk plugin break in precise for anyone else?16:03
slangasekbrendand: intermittently and possibly related to the eglibc upgrade today16:06
brendandslangasek, audio works for first few seconds and then stops16:07
slangasekyes, that's the issue I've seen16:07
om26erdid anyone Pilot today?16:07
slangasekbrendand: however, I wasn't able to reproduce it again after shuffling packages, so I haven't raised a bug16:07
brendandslangasek, what did you do?16:07
slangasekbrendand: I downgraded eglibc, then upgraded it again, and then I couldn't reproduce the bug... so it may have actually been a bug somewhere in the audio stack16:08
brendandslangasek, what's the older version?16:09
slangasekbrendand: 2.13-<foo>16:09
brendandslangasek, by eglibc you mean libc-bin, libc6, or all of them?16:14
seb128slangasek, brendand: maybe that's the bug which was in yesterday's alsa update and fixed today?16:15
seb128the configs were installed in the wrong dir16:15
seb128TheMuso fixed that today16:15
brendandseb128, nope i applied the workaround today. besides that didn't affect the googletalk plugin16:16
seb128dunno then16:16
achiangbrendand: broken for me too16:21
tseliotseb128: according to ricotz the new Nvidia driver seems to work with the new eglibc. I'll test it here and upload it (if successful) today16:27
tseliotseb128: Sarvatt brought this to my attention16:27
seb128tseliot, ok, great, thanks16:29
quadrisprohi all16:31
quadrisproehy tseliot ! how are you?16:32
tseliotquadrispro: hey, I'm still a little sick but fine otherwise, you?16:32
quadrisprotseliot, here the same, the flu has gone away right 2 days ago. I'm not used to this deep cold weather :/16:35
tseliotquadrispro: yes, I guess that's the problem..16:36
slangasekbrendand: all of them, they have to be upgraded and downgraded in step16:36
slangasekbrendand: note that at this point, due to rebuilds against the new version of glibc, you would also have to downgrade cups, bluez, pulseaudio, and libnih1 (used by upstart)16:46
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dokoslangasek, hmm, I don't have any nvidia hw :-/16:59
geddybarry, ping17:00
slangasekdoko: I only assigned the eglibc task to you, if that's what you mean17:00
dokoahh, ok17:00
geddybarry ping17:01
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tseliotseb128: unfortunately I'm unable to reproduce the problem on my laptop with the new eglibc...17:38
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Sarvatttseliot: every dupe i've opened so far is i386, that may explain why you can't reproduce on amd6417:43
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tseliotSarvatt: good point, I was starting to suspect i386...17:45
seb128bdmurray, why did you assign that gnome-screenshot upstream behaviour change to our team? it's not really a bug...17:49
seb128it's not a regression either, it's a on purpose behaviour change17:49
bdmurrayseb128: I think its a huge usability issue17:50
seb128bdmurray, it's not really17:50
bdmurrayHow are people supposed to find their screenshots?17:50
seb128bdmurray, the new behaviour is how any phone or tablet out there will behave (yeah, they are different devices but still)17:51
seb128bdmurray, how do they find them on phones and tablets?17:51
bdmurrayI don't think you take screenshots with a phone rather you take pictures and the photo software shows you the picture17:51
seb128bdmurray, well android tablets have a screenshot button on their 4 standard buttons which behaves like gnome-screenshot does, sound and visual effect and storing in the images directory17:52
seb128bdmurray, also the non interactive mode is only on screenshots, if you run gnome-screenshot from unity you will get an ui as before17:54
bdmurrayseb128: part of assigning the bug to your team was to get an authoritative statement about the bug / workflow.  I'd imagine that bug will receive quite a few duplicates and people are interested in this information.17:55
seb128bdmurray, ok, I'm commenting on it, I just disagree with the regression tagging I think ;-)17:56
seb128though I'm not sure we will keep the new behaviour I think we should not hurry in reverting but rather see how the new workflow works for users17:56
bdmurrayI can see how regression- tags can be subjective in design chagnes like this.17:56
bdmurrayIts still not clear to me how I am supposed to find the screenshot.  Where do I navigate to?17:57
bdmurrayView Photos in the dash?17:58
seb128bdmurray, they should show in the dash "recent files" on the dash home screen17:59
seb128bdmurray, if they don't atm we will fix that (need to check if that works)17:59
seb128bdmurray, the xdg Image folder is also in the bookmarks and easily accessible, if you know screenshots go there it's obvious to find them18:00
seb128(which is what phone and tablets do as well, you just need to know how to access your image dir)18:00
seb128bdmurray, in fact that works, they show there18:01
kklimondahey, is it possible to change dch --increment behaviour? it always adds ubuntuX suffix which isn't really what I always want18:11
micahgkklimonda: what's the use case?18:12
micahgkklimonda: and welcome back :)18:12
kklimondaah yes, I haven't been around in quite a while.. hey everyone :)18:13
kklimondamicahg: I maintain some packages that are not part of Ubuntu - they are either for debian or for a project based on Ubuntu.18:13
kklimondaah, I can pass --distributor to override that18:15
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micahgjust found that in the source18:15
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slangasekkklimonda: you can also pass -U, which is shorter18:18
kklimondagreat, I can even use DEB_VENDOR to override that18:18
dokobryceh, can you confirm that an updated glibc will fix the nvidia issue?18:19
kklimondaslangasek: hmm, doesn't seem to work18:20
brycehdoko, Sarvatt and tseliot say there is an nvidia driver update which will resolve it18:20
kklimondasorry, I've misunderstood you18:20
kklimondait works just fine :)18:20
bryceh<tseliot> bryceh: it seems that the latest nvidia (beta) driver solves the problem ^^18:20
Sarvattbryceh: argh18:21
tseliotbryceh: I take back that. Apparently it doesn't18:21
Sarvattbryceh: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/nvidia-graphics-drivers/+bug/929384/comments/1618:21
ubottuUbuntu bug 929384 in nvidia-graphics-drivers (Ubuntu) "nvidia drivers broken by the recent libc update on i386 arch" [High,Confirmed]18:21
brycehdoko, which glibc update?18:34
dokobryceh, there's only one, 2.1518:35
cjwatsonhas anyone managed to get valgrind output?18:35
tseliotcjwatson: do you suspect some major leak on i386?18:36
slangasekprobably not a leak, but maybe some memory smashing that valgrind could pick up on18:37
cjwatsonIs https://bugs.archlinux.org/task/27737 possibly related?18:37
slangasekpossibly, but I don't see any of those problems here on amd6418:39
slangasekoh, linked to nvidia18:39
dokoI don't see the delays with firefox and chromium18:39
slangaseksorry, had a different eglibc issue on the brain :P18:39
cjwatsonah, here we go18:39
ubottubugzilla.redhat.com bug 737223 in glibc "gl applications (using libGL.so) crash with glibc-2.14.90-8 when using proprietary NVIDIA driver" [High,Closed: errata]18:40
cjwatsondoko: ^-18:40
dokocjwatson, the fix is in the package18:41
cjwatsonoh, already?18:41
ahasenackvalgrind output: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/835568/18:41
cjwatsondoko: I don't see it ...18:43
cjwatsonlooking in lp:ubuntu/eglibc18:44
dokohmm, only part of it:18:44
doko              if (copy == NULL)18:45
doko                _dl_fatal_printf ("out of memory\n");18:45
doko              l->l_libname->name = l->l_name = memcpy (copy, dsoname, len);18:45
doko            }18:45
slangasekI wonder, should this bug be reproducible without nvidia hardware just by installing the lib18:45
cjwatsonincidentally, lp:ubuntu/eglibc is not up to date with precise18:45
dokoahh, I'll commit18:45
cjwatsonslangasek: if this patch is what fixes it, that looks quite plausible18:45
ahasenackit's very similar to that rh bug18:46
slangasekyep, testing now18:46
ahasenackinteresting LD_DEBUG options18:46
cjwatsonahasenack: please try running whatever you were running with 'LD_DEBUG=version'18:46
ahasenackit says the option "version" is unknown, I tried help and there are others18:47
ahasenackall quite verbose18:47
cjwatsonahasenack: er, right, =versions18:48
ahasenackstandard shell redirection to a file doesn't work18:48
cjwatsoni.e.  LD_DEBUG=versions glxinfo 2>x18:48
ahasenackoh, duh18:48
Sarvattslangasek: some of the bug reporters mentioned it still happened when they switched the gpu to intel but still had nvidia installed, yep it should18:48
ahasenackcjwatson: versions: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/835583/18:50
cjwatsonlooks very much like the same bug to me.18:50
ahasenackand with LD_DEBUG=all18:50
cjwatsoncf. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=737223#c1218:51
ubottubugzilla.redhat.com bug 737223 in glibc "gl applications (using libGL.so) crash with glibc-2.14.90-8 when using proprietary NVIDIA driver" [High,Closed: errata]18:51
ahasenackgot the symbol lookup error too18:52
ahasenackburied in those logs18:52
cjwatsonslangasek: any luck?18:54
slangasekcjwatson: still working on it, just found that my i386 chroot didn't have eglibc upgraded yet18:54
slangasekyep, got it18:54
slangasekdoko: it's reproducible in an i386 chroot with nvidia-current+mesa-utils installed, without needing nvidia hardware18:55
brycehI'm updating my nvidia hw test box, but will be a few more minutes18:56
slangasekbryceh: reproducible in any i386 chroot18:56
cjwatsonslangasek: did you say you saw audio problems as well?  I wonder if that's https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=76942118:56
ubottubugzilla.redhat.com bug 769421 in glibc "NPTL issues with 2.14.90-25 - mostly pulseaudio but others as well" [Unspecified,Closed: errata]18:56
cjwatsoncf. http://projects.archlinux.org/svntogit/packages.git/commit/trunk?h=packages/glibc&id=ead7c0f93b194f6e3a100f249edd76c826debaef18:56
smoseri'm looking at bacula, and its not getting correct mysql libs because it is explictly checking (in configure) for certain paths that the lib might exist in18:56
slangasekcjwatson: yes; bug #92971318:57
ubottuLaunchpad bug 929713 in eglibc (Ubuntu Precise) "audio unreliable with eglibc 2.15" [Critical,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/92971318:57
smoserand that does not include /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu18:57
smoserconfigure looks like this: http://paste.ubuntu.com/835598/18:57
Davieysmoser: doesn't it make sense to patch that in as an include path?18:57
elmoI have those audio problems too, FWIW18:57
smosershould i just patch it?18:57
smoserit seemed wrong to patch a 'configure'18:57
cjwatsonis the configure script generated using autoconf?18:58
Davieysmoser: are there any .in files?18:58
cjwatsonif so, you should patch the generating files18:58
cjwatsonthe modern form is .ac18:58
Davieyah yeah, right18:58
smosercjwatson. yes, but i dont think they're in the upstream tarball18:59
cjwatsonalthough it might well be in .m4 somewhere18:59
cjwatsonsmoser: crazy upstream18:59
cjwatsonif they don't ship the autoconf input, you don't have a lot of choice *shrug*18:59
cjwatsonyes, it's wrong, but they were wrong first18:59
cjwatsonplayground logic18:59
smoserso cjwatson you were saying 'configure.ac' ?18:59
smoseryeah. not there.19:00
Davieysmoser: I don't think you gain much by trying to do it 'right'19:00
cjwatsonsmoser: sure it is, in the autoconf/ subdirectory.19:00
Davieyah.. /me retreats.19:00
cjwatsonautoconf/bacula-macros/db.m4 is probably what you want to change.19:01
slangasekcjwatson: the "NPTL issues" backtrace is not dissimilar to my quodlibet backtrace; checking the other apps where I'm seeing it19:02
smosercjwatson, thank you.19:04
elmohow did that NPTL reversion not get into eglibc 2.15 upstream?  that bug is almost two months old19:08
brycehelmo, nvidia might not be as high a priority for them?19:20
elmobryceh: nvidia is the rtld.c change - the broken NPTL patch affects audio on machines with no nvidia19:21
cjwatsonbryceh: the NPTL reversion is not about nvidia19:21
cjwatsonI don't have an answer for why the Fedora patch fixing nvidia isn't upstream either, mind19:22
* cjwatson -> pub, sod it19:22
cjwatsonslangasek: I tentatively added a Fedora bug task for the audio bug19:23
slangasekcjwatson: seen, thanks19:23
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dokothe pthread_cond_wait issue is debian/patches/i386/local-pthread_cond_wait.diff, isn't it?19:27
dokocjwatson, ^^^19:27
slangasekdoko: I'm seeing the NPTL issue on amd6419:31
elmome too19:32
dokohmm, reverted in Debian:19:33
doko  * patches/amd64/cvs-pthread_cond_wait.diff: remove as it seems to cause19:33
doko    some issue with some kernels.  Closes: #651746.19:33
slangasekthe remaining problem doesn't appear to be kernel-related19:34
slangasekand the proposed fix isn't to remove the assembly version altogether, but to patch it?19:34
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brycehdoko, I've got 2 systems (one Nvidia, one Intel) reproducing the nvidia bug.  Both have libc 2.15 installed.19:44
seb128slangasek, do you know if somebody has been looking at upgrading valgrind's suppr files for multiarch? I've been adding local ones to clean my logs but I noticed some are in the default.suppr but the paths don't match because of multiarch dirs19:47
slangasekseb128: I haven't heard this mentioned before now, no19:48
seb128slangasek, hum, ok19:48
seb128slangasek, i.e /usr/lib/valgrind/default.supp has19:49
seb128   zlib-1.2.x trickyness (1b): See http://www.zlib.net/zlib_faq.html#faq3619:49
seb128   Memcheck:Cond19:49
seb128   obj:/*lib*/libz.so.1.2.*19:49
slangasekseb128: seems like it should be a simple bugfix though, right?19:49
seb128slangasek, yeah, it's just adding * to the lib paths in a file :p19:49
seb128slangasek, I was just wondering if somebody was working on it or if that was at least reported19:49
seb128slangasek, I will open a bug in the bts if there isn't one yet19:49
slangasekwell, I'm not subscribed to the valgrind bugs :)19:49
seb128slangasek, let me check19:50
seb128slangasek, btw I sent you automake1.11 multiarch diff to the bts, it got merged but they credited me even if I mentioned the patch was yours19:50
seb128slangasek, sorry for stealing credit from you ;-) on the positive side it allowed us to sync automake1.11 again19:50
slangasekseb128: no worries, my name is in enough changelogs :-P19:50
infinityslangasek: Since we started trimming changelogs, I feel much less cool.19:51
infinityslangasek: That recursive grep in /usr/share/doc isn't what it used to be.19:51
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dokobryceh, slangasek, cjwatson, elmo: test packages (amd64) on http://people.canonical.com/~doko/tmp/eglibc-2.15/20:13
dokoand i38620:23
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brycehdoko, looks good.  installed those debs on the broken nvidia box, rebooted, and unity came right up20:33
slangasekinterestingly, it seems to still be failing in my chroot20:34
slangasekah, no20:34
slangasekit works, I just had to install libc-bin with it so the package actually got configured20:34
brycehverified NVIDIA loaded, no X errors, dmesg is clean20:34
dokobryceh, amd64, or i386?20:35
brycehdoko, i38620:35
slangasekdoko: glxinfo i386 nvidia chroot test succeeded here20:35
slangasektesting the audio regression now20:35
brycehbryce@porlock:~$ uname -a20:35
brycehLinux porlock.bryceharrington.org 3.2.0-15-generic-pae #24-Ubuntu SMP Tue Feb 7 23:30:35 UTC 2012 i686 i686 i386 GNU/Linux20:35
brycehbryce@porlock:~$ apt-cache policy libc620:35
bryceh  Installed: 2.15-0ubuntu220:35
bryceh  Candidate: 2.15-0ubuntu220:35
dokonetwork sucks here, apt-get update taking now over 15min ...20:36
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brycehdoko, what's in that 0ubuntu2 version?20:38
dokobryceh, the two patches identified by cjwatson20:41
brycehdoko, also verified it fixes the unity_support_test crash on the intel box20:49
slangasekdoko: audio is testing out ok20:50
slangasekjdstrand: care to test the updated libc from http://people.canonical.com/~doko/tmp/eglibc-2.15/ with me in G+?20:50
jdstrandslangasek: sure. a browser restart should be enough I'm assuming, correct?20:51
slangasekjdstrand: no, the gtalk plugin starts its own server process, which is the one that hangs; so you want 'killall -9 GoogleTalkPlugin'20:52
slangasekjdstrand: possibly with a 'killall plugin-container' thrown in for flavor20:52
jdstrandheh, ok. downloading-- it'll probably be a few minutes20:52
* slangasek nods20:52
jdstrandslangasek: ok, ready20:57
* jdstrand adjusts hair20:58
tedghyperair, Do you have thoughts on this patch?  https://code.launchpad.net/~ballogy/libindicate/fix-mono-location/+merge/9231320:59
tedghyperair, I always forget where things are supposed to go with Mono :-)20:59
dokojdstrand, do you see core dumps without adjusted hair? ;-P20:59
jdstrandworked great :)20:59
jdstranddoko: hehe-- maybe that was my problem before :)21:00
hyperairtedg: if you gacutil, don't bother installing it in assemblydir.21:01
hyperairtedg: afaik gacutil does that for you21:01
hyperairer i think21:01
tedghyperair, How do I know if I gacutil? ;-)  It's used several times, I'm not sure which usages are important.21:02
hyperairtedg: gacutil -i installs into the GAC.21:03
hyperairtedg: if you do that, installing it into assemblydir like what it was before the patch was applied, and even after the patch is applied, is redundant.21:03
hyperairtedg: take a look at taglib-sharp's src/Makefile.am21:04
tedghyperair, So the patch is from the arch guy, in theory it helps their packaging.  Would you say it's a no-op for Ubuntu then?21:04
hyperairtedg: we'll probably just ignore things found in /usr/lib/mono21:05
hyperairdebian policy is to stick things into /usr/lib/cli in the .deb, and then gacutil -i it in postinst21:05
hyperairwhereas upstreams should just gacutil -i straight.21:05
hyperairtedg: is ballogy around on irc somewhere?21:06
hyperairtedg: also i really need to sleep.21:06
tedghyperair, Not sure, I've not talked with him/her on IRC21:06
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tedgNo IRC listed on LP either.21:07
hyperairtedg: well i'm pretty sure the Right Way™ for upstreams is what taglib-sharp is doing21:07
hyperairso please look at how it's done there and follow suite.21:07
* hyperair → bed21:07
hyperairit's 5am and i need to wake up early tomorrow21:07
tedghyperair, Okay, thanks!21:07
* tedg doesn't want to be technical, but it already is early tomorrow :-)21:07
slangasektedg: you don't *want* to be technical, you just find that it's an innate aspect of your makeup? :)21:10
tedgslangasek, I blame society21:16
jonohey folks21:24
jonois sound still broken in Precise for flash?21:24
jonostill having issues with playing flash videos and using G+21:24
slangasekjono: eglibc 2.15-0ubuntu2 will fix it; building now21:25
slangasek(separate issue than the flash one yesterday)21:25
jonoslangasek, awesome, thanks21:25
jonooh I see21:25
dobeyslangasek: is that eglibc build the fix for the omg nvidia issuse?21:44
elmodobey: yes21:44
dobeywas it an issue in __memcpy_ia32 btw? i'm hitting an odd crash in it right now, and just wondering if it's related21:45
slangasekdobey: no, it was in the linker21:50
dobeyah ok21:50
dobeythen perhaps it's time for some bourbon, if i'm going to have to actually debug this crash in gnome-keyring, in introspection, in python :-/21:51
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hrwdoes someone know is reproductible hangs of chromium and firefox are due to eglibc 2.15 or other recent upgrade?23:55
slangasekhrw: haven't seen any reports of browser hangs due to eglibc 2.15; there are two critical bug fixes in eglibc 2.15-0ubuntu223:56
hrwslangasek: here, I run chromium or firefox, enter address and it hangs - have to xkill23:56
slangasekhrw: arch?23:57
slangasekI've been running firefox w/ eglibc 2.15 for a week, no issues23:57
RAOFhrw: Possibly flash being crazy?23:59

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