vanhoofapw: press and hold it00:17
vanhoofapw: brings up the how to menu00:17
vanhoofapw: http://ubuntuone.com/295An59g2Db88LurQlMtEb00:20
RAOFvanhoof: You sure you don't mean just hold <super>?00:22
vanhoofRAOF: well ill be damn'd00:23
vanhoofRAOF: lol00:23
* vanhoof walks away innocently00:23
vanhoofguess i've just never held it that long00:23
vanhooftotal press and hold operation00:23
jonojsalisbury, any more luck with a kernel I can test?01:21
jsalisburyjono, not test kernel as of yet.  The commits that the bisect is reporting to run have a bug in them that cause the pae kernel build to fail.  I'll let you know as soon as I get it figured out.  It should be sometime tomorrow at the latest.01:45
jonojsalisbury, no worries01:45
jonodo you think you have the problem nailed down with what is causing the bug I reported?01:46
jsalisburyjono, thanks for being patient :-)01:46
jonothanks for helping jsalisbury01:46
jsalisburyjono, not yet, that is the primary purpose of the bisect, to figure out the offending commit.01:46
jsalisburyjono, too bad someone else isn't hitting this bug that is running amd64.  That kernel builds just fine.01:47
jonoahhh bummer01:48
jsalisburyjono, I'll take a good look at the changelog and code that is causing the build failure.  I'll make it my priority in the morning ;-)01:48
jonothanks jsalisbury!01:49
jsalisburyjono, np, should have something for you shortly.01:49
pooliehello all05:21
pooliei think i identified the fix for bug 745112 05:21
ubot2Launchpad bug 745112 in xserver-xorg-video-intel "[arrandale] desktop is messed up with external monitors (x86_64)" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/74511205:22
lifelesspoolie: run windows ? :P05:22
lifeless(boom tish)05:22
pooliei was wondering what to do to get a SRU starting05:22
poolieperhaps just commenting on the bug is enough05:23
poolielifeless, ironically from stuff on the web lots of windows drivers have similar problems05:23
poolieor perhaps are randomly failing for other reasons, who can tell05:23
pooliebut i bet the odds of an apple laptop driving an apple monitor are pretty good :/05:23
lifelesspoolie: yeah, I'd say they are05:27
RAOFI suspect the apple firmware devs are less divorced from the apple hardware devs than for most OEMs.05:28
* ogasawara yells at launchpad to load faster05:32
ogasawarapoolie: that bug sounds familiar to me, did I build a test kernel for it?05:32
ogasawarapoolie: I can take a better look at it in the morning05:34
poolieogasawara, you built a kernel for a similar bug and it also fixes this one05:39
pooliebut not if you boot in recovery mode, for some reason05:39
poolieno huge rush05:39
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Kano64hi, did you notice that ndiswrapper -ma/-mi is broken for kernel 3.0 to 3.4?10:18
Kano64just tested a 3.2.0 kernel with updated ndiswrapper code10:19
Kano64but the userspace is broken by definition when you want autoload with alias/install directives10:20
snadgewhut theres a 3.4 now? :p10:24
Kano64in utils/ndiswrapper10:25
Kano64if (`uname -r` =~ /(\d+)\.(\d+)\.(\d+)/) {10:25
Kano64    if ($2 > 4) {10:25
Kano64should be more like10:25
Kano64if (($2 > 4) | ($1 > 2)) {10:25
snadgelol the finger service has been shut down on kernel.org :P10:26
snadgeok its 3.3 rc310:27
snadgeim not unlucky enough to have to use ndiswrapper.. thats probably why it hasn't been noticed until now Kano6410:28
Kano64the 3.2 kernel does not have got a working ndiswrapper, but you only need to change the makefile in one line to update it to 1.5710:28
snadgethat blows10:29
Kano64well when you replace the rest of course10:29
Kano64the makefile is from ubuntu10:29
snadgeahh okay so its not upstream yet10:29
Kano64well it is upstream10:29
Kano64but in the kernel was ubuntu/ndiswrapper10:30
Kano64and the makefile there is not from upstream10:30
Kano64acritox made a nice script to update your kernel 10:31
Kano64latest aufs3 + ndiswrapper10:31
Kano64please apply it10:31
Kano64aufs+ndiswrapper are tested10:31
Kano64i dont think it could be more easy for you10:33
snadgeim not an ubuntu kernel maintainer :/10:42
snadgewas just rebooting and stuff10:42
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* ppisati -> back in 1011:37
* cking -> back in ~6012:08
* reisei back in black --__--12:11
* ppisati -? goes out for some grocery12:23
tgardnerapw, before I go hassle the security guys, any idea why apparmor would deny named read access to /sys/devices/system/cpu/online ? Especially when its world read accessible.13:11
ckingtgardner, this is much like bug 819479 where apparmor was incorrectly stopping reads to /sys/devices/system/cpu/present13:24
ubot2Launchpad bug 819479 in firefox "Apparmor denies access to /sys/devices/system/cpu/present" [Low,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/81947913:24
tgardnercking, so this would be a bind9 profile ?13:25
ckingtgardner, no idea :-(13:25
ckingsee also: https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/apparmor/2011-September/001537.html - this seems to indicate /sys/.../online should be readable13:25
smbtgardner, Would sudo apparmour_status shed some light somewhere13:27
tgardnersmb, sudo: apparmour_status: command not found13:27
smbtgardner, Forgive my bad spelling13:27
apwtgardner, there was an issue exposed by overlayfs in apparmour as merged13:28
apwtgardner, wherein sometimes it cannot find the pathname, jj has a fix13:29
tgardnerapw, this is on an installed server. overlayfs shouldn't be in the mix13:29
tgardnersmb, 3 processes have profiles defined.13:29
tgardner3 processes are in enforce mode.13:29
tgardner   /usr/sbin/dhcpd (2188) 13:29
tgardner   /usr/sbin/named (2027) 13:29
tgardner   /usr/sbin/ntpd (2012)13:29
apwtgardner, if you could paste the error as reported by aa in dmesg at the time we should be able to tell if its the same13:29
apwtgardner, yeah it can affect any virtual filesystem depending how it makes its names13:29
tgardnerapw: type=1400 audit(1328792253.861:29): apparmor="DENIED" operation="open" parent=1933 profile="/usr/sbin/named" name="/sys/devices/system/cpu/online" pid=1952 comm="named" requested_mask="r" denied_mask="r" fsuid=0 ouid=013:29
tgardnerwhere are profiles stored ?13:30
apwtgardner, ok so not the same issue as the name is known13:30
apwtgardner, /etc/apparmor.d i think, they are paths converted to filenames in there13:31
tgardneryep, just found them13:31
tgardnerapw, updated the profile and restarted both apparmor and bind9. no errors. rebooting to make sure.13:35
tgardnerapw, of course it picked this boot to fsck a 3 TB drive.13:38
smbIt had to. :-P Is named only now looking at the online cpu map?13:39
snadgei think i see that message too13:40
tgardnersmb, it must be spawning a number of threads based on how many CPUs are online ?13:40
snadgetype=1400 audit(1328794066.931:27): apparmor="DENIED" operation="open" parent=2792 profile="/usr/lib/telepathy/mission-control-5" name="/sys/devices/system/cpu/online" pid=2796 comm="mission-control" requested_mask="r" denied_mask="r" fsuid=1000 ouid=013:40
smbtgardner, That would be my guess too. Just wondering whether we just missed that before13:40
tgardnerok, it finally booted. no error13:41
snadgeis that the same thing?13:41
tgardnersnadge, it is, but a different package13:42
tgardnerwell, I've got the apparmor source, but where in the hell is the profile for bind9 ?13:47
tgardnerhmm, maybe its deliverd in bind913:48
tgardnerah, bind9 debian/apparmor-profile13:50
jdstrandtgardner: it is 929531. this was caused by the new eglibc13:51
tgardnerjdstrand, wanna patch ?13:53
tgardnerjdstrand, actually, the bug is against the wrong package13:53
tgardnerit should be bind913:53
jdstrandtgardner: it should be in the apparmor base abstraction13:54
jdstrandtgardner: it is in basically everything. introduced in this glibc commit http://repo.or.cz/w/glibc.git/commitdiff/84e2a551a72c79b020694bb327e33b6d71b09b6313:54
tgardnerjdstrand, uh, whatever that means. why would a library change expose this ?13:54
jdstrandtgardner: because rather than just looking at /proc/stat, it is also looking at /sys/devices/system/cpu/online13:55
tgardnerah, I see13:55
jdstrandanyhoo, I will have it fixed in a few minutes13:55
jdstrandtgardner: did you file a bug already?13:55
tgardnerso its not just bind9, its everything that uses this library call13:55
tgardnerjdstrand, nope, was still working on tracking down root cause13:56
jdstrandwhich so far I have see with evince, gwibber, empathy, telepathy, etc13:56
jdstrandand now you mention bind913:56
jdstrandah, lets add evolution to the list :)13:56
jdstrandanyhoo, fixing13:56
tgardnerjdstrand, cool, thanks for the heads up13:56
ogasawarasmb: thanks for doing meta14:04
smbogasawara, no problem. it was all well prepared. all I had to do was to pray I still know how to upload. :-P14:05
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* cking considers frying an egg on the CPU of this old AMD laptop15:24
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tgardnercking, I think the HD gets pretty hot too15:29
smbAmazing the thing still survives15:30
ckingso the "powersave" CPU governor should be renamed to "heatsave" as it keeps the temp down but doesn't actually really save power15:32
cking"powersave" aka "don't burn your lap" governor15:34
* smb is reminded of his limitcpu script for his old tp15:35
smbBasically using ondemand but telling it "no 2GHz is not good for your health"15:35
ckingit depends on where you place the laptop I suppose.15:36
smbOh I was thinking of the laptops health more. Usually do not really usem on my lap anyway15:36
smbEspecially that one was heavy still. :)15:37
* ogasawara back in 2015:44
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argestgardner, ogasawara : looking at https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/804281 . I see that ogasawara did apply this fix to the maverick backport kernel, wondering if a lucid SRU is even possible? thanks16:14
ubot2Launchpad bug 804281 in linux "Ubuntu 10.04 does not detect and install NIC driver for Intel 82579LM" [Undecided,Fix released]16:14
tgardnerarges, as ogasawara pointed out in https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/804281/comments/6, it doesn't seem likely.16:15
ubot2Launchpad bug 804281 in linux "Ubuntu 10.04 does not detect and install NIC driver for Intel 82579LM" [Undecided,Fix released]16:15
ogasawaraarges: indeed not likely for the main Lucid distro kernel.  If you really need it in lucid and an LTS backport kernel won't suffice, you might pursue providing it in linux-backports-modules which is an elective install.16:19
tgardnerogasawara, an LBM module won't help for the netboot use case16:21
argesogasawara, yea was just going to say this is on a lucid alternate CD install16:21
ogasawaraah, so scratch that16:22
tgardnerarges, but, they could use the Lucid point release DVD16:22
ogasawaraoh yah, won't that have the newer kernels?16:22
argestgardner, ack. asking about that now16:22
tgardnerogasawara, .3 has maverick, .4 will have the rest up through Oneiric16:23
manjotgardner, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/929636 looks like a regression 16:35
ubot2Launchpad bug 929636 in linux "[12.04] BUG: unable to handle kernel NULL pointer dereference at 00000000000000f0" [Undecided,New]16:35
tgardnermanjo, it would be helpful to know from which version this has regressed16:37
manjotgardner, I did not see it with the last kernel, and I am uptodate on a daily basis16:38
tgardnermanjo, is it reliably repeatable ?16:38
manjotgardner, yeah I am going to test it again 16:38
manjotgardner, will let you know if I can repeat it 16:38
tgardnermanjo, the correct answer is "I don't know, I'll try it repeatedly"16:39
tgardnermanjo, be sure to reboot after every oops16:39
manjoyep I have already rebooted 16:40
manjoI formatted my usb around 10 times and did not happen... so I am coping large amounts of data to it now and will try to format it .. I create usb install disk around 5-6 times a day so I am bound to hit this if it is repeatable 16:44
tgardnermanjo, try removing the partition table first.16:45
manjotgardner, does not repeat ... ok will update the bug when I get some where with this 16:50
tgardnermanjo, I guess its kind of racy.16:50
manjoyep that is what I think too 16:50
manjowould be nice to be able to recreate that race condition 16:51
tgardnermanjo, however, its not clear that this is a recent regression. it could have been lurking for several kernel versions.16:51
manjonothing else was connected to my USB ports except for this stick .. and the mouse 16:51
manjoon and keyboard16:51
manjoI guess while my disk was formatting I was typing on IRC... so my usb keyboard was in use .. I guess I should plug in 2 usb sticks and format them at the same time ... or some test like that 16:52
manjoI have to go take care of something else of higher priority .. I will come back to this later 16:53
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* ppisati -> back in 10mins17:34
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* cking kicks off 25 vlc power measurement tests, its kinda annoying hearing the same 1 minute video clip 25 times18:42
tgardnercking, earplugs ?18:48
ckingi've heard it 100+ times already, so I'm now immune to it really18:49
ckingit's not like when I was working on mpeg2 optimisation where I saw the same videos over and over for ~1 year18:49
* pbuckley gives cking some mad respect for making the world a better place for us media freaks18:50
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ckingunfortunately that was on proprietary code for set-top-boxes, but hey ho18:51
pbuckleyah.. well im sure it made someones life better ;)18:51
ckingpaid the bills18:51
tgardnercking, I did a sound driver once where I listened to the same KD Lang clip about a thousand times. She has such a clear voice that it was easy to hear artifacts18:51
ckingtgardner, yep, now I can't watch any digital TV w/o seeing all the artifacts 18:52
tgardnercking, it sucks to be the digital literati :)18:53
ckinghrm, Tuxera POSIX truncate tests take forever and a day to complete on ecryptfs 18:54
tyhickscking: http://git.kernel.org/?p=linux/kernel/git/torvalds/linux-2.6.git;a=commitdiff;h=a261a03904849c3df50bd0300efb7fb3f865137d19:00
tyhickscking: It should be coming down the stable pipe19:00
tyhickscking: As of 3.3-rc2, all tuxera tests should pass except for 2 rename tests, I believe19:02
* tgardner -> lunch19:03
ckingtyhicks, that is an accomplishment!19:09
tyhickscking: Are you seeing a lot of failures?19:09
ckingtyhicks, well, I was going to compare Lucid vs Precise vs 3.3-rcX (where X is current) and see if there any really important fixes that should be backported19:10
tyhicksHrm, I don't know what to expect from the Lucid results19:11
ckinga bit of carnage19:11
tyhicksFeel free to pass the results by me for patch suggestions since I would have either wrote the fixes or committed them19:13
* tyhicks might be able to remeber that far back19:13
ckingwell, I'd like to do the survey, collate results and compare to results with say ext3/4 as well 19:13
tyhicksMakes sense - although I don't think I remember ext3/4 ever failing one of those tests19:14
* ogasawara lunch19:43
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ohsixanyone know offhand when CLOCK_MONOTONIC stops and starts before suspend and after resume?21:32
ohsixor a more direct question, i guess; is there a flag or something to detect when a suspend has occured? there's a canary thread in rtkit that slips on suspend and demotes all the threads when it's not supposed to21:35
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* tgardner -> EOD22:01

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