[04:56] <urlin2u> on #ubunntu check bootris comments please
[04:57] <urlin2u> #ubuntu
[05:57] <szal> morning
[05:57] <szal> [06:53:13] --> flamoot has joined this channel (~flamoot@69-196-191-74.dsl.teksavvy.com). <- probably the same machine as bootris about an hour ago, same ISP anyway, and still talking random stuff
[05:57] <szal> [06:55:18] [CTCP] Received CTCP-VERSION reply from flamoot: ircbot.py by Joel Rosdahl <joel@rosdahl.net>.
[06:01] <szal> <- out again; ping me in #ubuntu or #ubuntu-offtopic for any questions
[06:07] <urlin2u> so we have a return it seems of a banned user earlier they mention bootris their nic is now flamoot  and they are just mimicing post and posting nonesense
[06:07] <urlin2u> mimicking
[06:07] <urlin2u> in #ubuntu
[07:48] <iToast> Can i get unbanned.
[07:51] <elky> how did you get banned?
[07:51] <iToast> Off topic.
[07:52] <iToast> I was banned in the past for off topic by a op that considered something dealing with ubuntu and getting help on ubuntu off topic...
[07:57] <elky> 2012-02-02T09:42:37 <iToast> I dare you to recover data from a puddle of metal.
[07:58] <iToast> Thats not what i was talking about.
[07:58] <elky> stuff like that is not appropriate, nor is it dealing with ubuntu nor is it getting help on ubuntu
[07:58] <elky> you were talking about albino peacocks instead, right before the ban
[07:59] <iToast> I understand that and thats why I am banned right now.
[07:59] <iToast> But thats not what I was talking about.
[07:59] <iToast> elky, just curious, can a #ubuntu op insult people in other channels?
[08:00] <iToast> even in #ubuntu
[08:01] <elky> what incident specifically are you talking about?
[08:01] <iToast> A mutch older one now
[08:02] <iToast> Its to late now, the op said they consider it oftopic and if I didnt stop i'd be banned... :| and i was for that
[08:02] <iToast> Anyways, may I get unbanned?
[08:03] <elky> depends if you can convince me that you're aware that offtopic things are not allowed in #ubuntu, even from people who are helping
[08:03] <iToast> I understand they ain't allowed and I am using #ubuntu-offtopic when told
[08:04] <elky> and you've read the guidelines and the code of conduct?
[08:04] <iToast> yes
[08:04] <Tm_T> iToast: I hope you don't rely on others telling you when -offtopic is used
[08:04] <mrmist> Perhaps for disclosure you should mention that you were banned from other channels, too
[08:04] <iToast> mrmist, How does that coun't remotly here?
[08:05] <mrmist> It shows a pattern of behaviour
[08:05] <iToast> By inserting a comment like that your changing a outcome.
[08:05] <mrmist> Yes, I'm aware of that possibility
[08:05] <iToast> mrmist, Most of my bans are involved with psi-jack.
[08:05] <iToast> He doesn't like me. He judeges me harder and takes everything as breaking rules.
[08:05] <iToast> As i've stated in the past, he stoped me from getting help but when someone else was going to help and i was trying to talk to them, he threated to ban me.
[08:06] <iToast> He wasen't able to provide help but another person could. but I should google everything :|
[08:07] <iToast> He doesn't consider the fact that I state "I've googled for about 2 hours and got nothing accurate before coming here for help"
[08:07] <Flannel> I don't see any bans in any other channels, just #ubuntu.  (past or present)
[08:08] <elky> there's bans for #ubuntu-ops in our tracker, from previous times he's tried to get unbanned and given cheek and attitude instead of cooperation
[08:08] <iToast> Ops often expect a user to listen and take being insulted or suffer their power.
[08:08] <mrmist> ok, of course the ops here are free to make their own decisions, and it's probably not important.
[08:08] <iToast> I was called a "moron" by a op in here.
[08:08] <elky> also, according to our tracker, he's effectively dodging bans.
[08:08] <Flannel> mrmist: Are you talking about non #ubuntu channels?
[08:09] <iToast> elky, how am I dodging bans?
[08:09] <elky> iToast, there's numerous webchat bans for "iToast"
[08:09] <iToast> How is that dodging?
[08:09] <iToast> I've had my head ripped off by about 800+ people for using webchat.
[08:10] <iToast> I'm now using xchat and enjoying it, and not getting my head ripped off!
[08:10] <mrmist> Flannel: yes.
[08:10] <Flannel> elky: I don't think those are bans, unless I'm doing it wrong.
[08:10] <Flannel> mrmist: Ah, that's not terribly applicable then.
[08:11] <mrmist> Flannel: Indeed probably not
[08:12] <iToast> mrmist, your bringing gasoline to firefighters to put out a fire.
[08:12] <mrmist> iToast: you can choose to deflect the discussion at me, or you can continue towards getting unbanned. One of those is productive.
[08:12] <Flannel> iToast: He's not.  We're perfectly capable of looking at information and disregarding non-relevant bits.
[08:13] <elky> iToast, the size of our channels mean we take advice from staff occasionally.
[08:13] <iToast> Looking for other stuff about a user to bring it up will alter the outcome of the result in a unfavourable whay when the information isn't requested.
[08:14] <elky> hardly. "being arrested meant i was held accountable for that stuff i would have gotten away with" is silly logic
[08:15] <elky> now, lets talk about the ban
[08:15] <iToast> Thats comparing a disscussion to a legal action
[08:16] <iToast> elky, would it be possible to contact you any other way? I enjoy speaking with you.
[08:16] <elky> No.
[08:16] <iToast> :/
[08:17] <Flannel> iToast: Is this a social call? or are we trying to come to some sort of resolution?
[08:17] <elky> mrmist, has agreed to not say anything more in this discussion providing you don't address him. Ok?
[08:17] <iToast> elky, ty
[08:17] <elky> How about we proceed with the discussion here.
[08:17] <iToast> ok
 iToast: I hope you don't rely on others telling you when -offtopic is used
[08:18] <elky> now, if you could respond to that, it'd be great
[08:19] <iToast> I know not to rely on them but sometimes people consider something ontopic offtopic.
[08:19] <iToast> I was told i was offtopic and waned for it for telling the person helping me the guide I was following
[08:20] <elky> you were told you were offtopic for stuff unrelated to helping anyone
[08:21] <iToast> elky, The person was helping me and so they know what I did accuratly adn what i was following i sent them the guide
[08:21] <iToast> Thats like me telling you to goto alaska without a map or a gps, just vauge instructions how to get their
[08:23] <elky> that's not what happened.
[08:24] <iToast> wer
[08:24] <iToast> we've roamed offtopic again.
[08:24] <elky> no, we're discussing how to behave in #ubuntu, and you're claiming things that didn't happen.
[08:25] <elky> It is entirely ontopic that i make sure you know how to behave before letting you back in there
[08:25] <iToast> elky everyone has a different view on ontopic / offtopic.
[08:25] <elky> the topic is: your behaviour in #ubuntu.
[08:25] <iToast> My view is to give who ever is helping you the same resource your using to prevent confusion, it ends in a solution quite fast
[08:26] <elky> and what does that have to do with you being banned for telling people to melt harddrives and recover data from them, and you talking nonsense about peacocks in a video you were watching
[08:27] <iToast> elky, thats not what i was talking about with my last statement.
[08:27] <elky> then please do talk about it. I want assurance that you can moderate yourself without needing someone to watch you and tell you specifically when you're offtopic
[08:28] <iToast> To be honest it was a stupid aciton on my end.
[08:28] <elky> what thread of conversation in particular are you referring to now?
[08:28] <iToast> O
[08:28] <iToast> I'm refering to my actions being offtopic in general.
[08:29] <elky> ok, and can you assure me that you know what is offtopic and don't need a watcher?
[08:29] <iToast> Isn't that what you wan'ted me to understand? Being offtopic will result in actions from a op in order to keep the channel helpfull and usefull
[08:29] <iToast> yes
[08:29] <elky> ok, that's all i wanted to hear. i don't know why it took so long to get it.
[08:29] <iToast> I said yes earlyer?
[08:30] <iToast> elky, how long have you been with ubuntu?
[08:30] <elky> since 2005
[08:30] <iToast> "* Cannot join #ubuntu (You are banned)."
[08:30] <elky> earlier you said yes, but you tried to throw in a strawman argument
[08:31] <elky> you might want to have patience for me to find you in the ban list first
[08:31] <iToast> Isn't it just a command for ops?
[08:31] <iToast> !unban...?
[08:31] <iToast> O.o
[08:31] <elky> i can't type here and in #Ubuntu at the same second ;)
[08:31] <iToast> Dual screens and keyboards would let you :P
[08:31] <elky> i'm on a netbook
[08:31] <iToast> O.o
[08:31] <elky> they don't make them that advanced yet
[08:32] <iToast> running ubuntu?
[08:32] <elky> yes
[08:32] <iToast> I'm a early adopter of netbooks.
[08:32] <elky> i don't have any non-ubuntu computers
[08:32] <iToast> Dont tell me how advancethey are :P
[08:32] <iToast> I'm a early win 7 beta tester early netbook user...
[08:32] <elky> they don't have 2 screens and 2 keyboards yet
[08:32] <iToast> Thats a design flaw.
[08:32] <iToast> Not eneugh productivity
[08:32] <elky> i think we need to reinvent physics first
[08:33] <elky> anyway, the ban is now lifted
[08:33] <iToast> Ty
[08:33] <iToast> lol
[08:33] <iToast> Why reinvent physics? thats like reinventing the wheel...
[08:33] <elky> so that my hands can move fast enough to use 2 keyboards at the same time
[08:34] <iToast> 1 hand per keyboard.
[08:34] <elky> too much resistance in flesh for that at present
[08:34] <iToast> You're doing it wrong.
[08:34] <iToast> Use the most logical answer, 1 hand per keyboard
[08:34] <iToast> if we revent physics, gravity.deb might crash.
[08:35] <elky> in which case we'd be able to fly and nobody would give a toss
[08:35] <elky> anyway, lets not pollute the logs of this channel with that
[08:35] <iToast> Hope you enjoy flying into the vacume of space :P
[08:36] <elky> i'll run out of oxygen before i turn inside out, the view will be worth it.
[08:36] <Tm_T> iToast: anything else we can help you with? (:
[08:37]  * elky points to the channel topic
[08:41] <Tm_T> iToast: anything else we can help you with? (:
[08:41] <iToast> a broken server?
[08:41] <iToast> :)
[08:41] <Tm_T> iToast: we have this thing called channel topic, take a read (;
[08:42] <iToast> Tm_T, I forgot how to read ;)
[13:33] <kralle|brb> what the hell
[13:33] <kralle|brb> n00bs
[13:34] <Tm_T> ok
[13:38] <ikonia> ahhh, he was a pain yesterday, can't remember what for
[13:39] <ikonia> ahhh I remember him
[13:39] <ikonia> the guy with the impossible hotspot setup
[13:39] <ikonia> and then started calling people names
[13:39] <ikonia> found him in BT
[13:48] <bazhang> dnsmasq? that one?
[13:49] <bazhang> right, then started calling people "retard" or something similar
[13:51] <ikonia> thats the guy
[13:51] <ikonia> good memory
[13:57] <ikonia> Tm_T: he actually gave the support answer
[13:58] <ikonia> Tm_T: he then offered a bit of advice, that you could find it with google, I don't think he gave google as a support answer
[13:58] <ikonia> it's not like he said "google it"
[13:59] <ikonia> he said "here is the URL, you can find it with google also"
[13:59] <Tm_T> I know
[13:59] <bazhang> why would ubuntu need qt 4.8
[14:00] <ikonia> just curious then, I'm not a big fan of some of BluesKaj's support, but I didn't see an issue with what he said
[14:00] <bazhang> thought that was a kde necessity
[14:00] <ikonia> bazhang: using some QT apps
[14:00] <ikonia> bazhang: there are non-kde apps that are QT
[14:00] <ikonia> (I can't think of any, they are obscure)
[14:00] <Tm_T> ikonia: maybe I'm getting a bit too edgy of the constant "google it" attitude I see /:
[14:00] <bazhang> it's odd silex would want qt 4.8 with 10.10 ubuntu ?
[14:10] <ikonia> ask him directly ?
[16:25] <Ampelbein> Hi! Could a #ubuntu+1 operator add this to the topic: "Binary nvidia drivers not working with new eglibc-2.15: http://pad.lv/929384" ?
[16:26] <pangolin> done
[16:26] <Ampelbein> Thanks, pangolin
[16:26] <pangolin> welcome
[16:26] <Ampelbein> Cya laters
[17:28] <h00k> I'm taking a break from work (IT), to help someone with networking.
[17:28] <h00k> I need more hobbies
[17:28] <pangolin> hehe
[17:29] <pangolin> but this will be much more appreciated I think
[17:30] <mneptok> not when it comes time to buy food
[17:31] <pangolin> food is overrated
[17:32] <h00k> ^ this is true, two lines up.
[18:09] <pangolin> !no gnash is <reply> Gnash is an open-source Flash replacement. It is still beta software. For current status or for more info http://www.gnu.org/software/gnash/
[18:10] <pangolin> thank you
[18:58] <h00k> I remember gnash.
[19:00] <pangolin> false positive
[19:00] <pangolin> that should be fixed
[19:00] <pangolin> a repeat after 10 minutes is hardly abusive
[19:00] <Tm_T> yeah
[19:01] <Tm_T> pangolin: although, why not ];=
[19:01] <pangolin> because it is mean :(
[19:55] <LjL> uhm it simply shouldn't do that for repeating
[19:56] <LjL> i don't know why it did that, will check
[19:59] <LjL> i cannot really seem to reproduce it, maybe it's some quirk specific to the K bots
[20:04] <pangolin> LjL: are the K bots still running the older code?
[20:06] <LjL> pangolin: i don't know, but i suspect so