[00:00] <knome> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wMSDPLOSHyQ
[00:01] <ochosi> but i guess i need to make room for a precise vm at some point, otherwise i have to try to fix greybird-precise bugs "in the dark"
[00:02] <knome> mmh, right
[00:57] <knome> HA!
[00:58]  * knome just fixed the 404 errors @ xubuntu.org
[00:58] <knome> now to file a RT ticket..
[01:02] <pleia2> \o/
[01:02] <pleia2> you are the winnar
[01:03] <knome> haha
[01:03] <knome> thanks
[01:03]  * knome bites the gold metal and breaks his teeth
[01:03] <knome> OUCH
[01:03] <knome> ;)
[01:03]  * pleia2 passes over a beer instead
[01:03] <knome> http://xubuntu.princessleia.com/i_like_beer <--
[01:03] <knome> hahah...
[01:03] <knome> ;)
[01:03] <knome> exactly!
[01:05]  * knome unmounts sshfs from pleia2's server
[01:07] <pleia2> :)
[01:07] <knome> meh.
[01:07]  * knome might not be able to attend uds even if he wanted
[01:08] <knome> not that i'm too excited to travel to states to hack on a pc
[01:08] <knome> ...
[01:09] <pleia2> but california is lovely
[01:09] <knome> yeah, but indoors?
[01:09] <pleia2> and in oakland
[01:10] <pleia2> but wednesday night we're doing tourist stuff in san francisco! the nice city :)
[01:10] <knome> well, we have bachelor party @ may 12
[01:10] <pleia2> bring your wife, we're having an ubuntu women dinner thursday night at my place
[01:10] <knome> hah :)
[01:11] <knome> she's not really interested in FOSS (sorry! ;)) and not really able to come anyway (three-shift work)
[01:11] <pleia2> it's a nice place for a vacation :D
[01:12] <pleia2> my favorite vacation last year was as a tag-along to a networking conference my fiance went to, in Puerto Rico
[01:12] <knome> heh
[01:12] <knome> well, seriously
[01:12] <knome> it's damn far :/
[01:12] <pleia2> yeah, it is
[01:13] <knome> i'd have loved to attend @ europe
[01:13] <pleia2> it's nice to have it at home, but I was actually looking forward to another europe adventure
[01:14] <pleia2> dunno what they're doing in the fall
[01:14]  * knome is keeping fingers crossed for EU...
[01:14] <knome> why not even finland!
[01:14] <knome> but that's not going to happen.
[01:14] <knome> :)
[01:14] <pleia2> is there snow everywhere in october? :)
[01:14] <knome> depends
[01:14] <pleia2> hehe
[01:14] <knome> you might have none, or you might have 50cm
[01:15] <knome> and polar bears on the streets
[01:15] <knome> and the iglu's on the suburbs
[01:15] <pleia2> lol
[01:15] <knome> hah, not really
[01:16] <knome> the falls have been very non-snowy lately:)
[01:16] <pleia2> I don't actually know what goes into a venue decision
[01:16] <pleia2> seems random
[01:16] <knome> but it snowed today :)
[01:16] <knome> well, a big venue i suppose
[01:16] <knome> and places where to accommodate lots of people
[01:17] <knome> and maybe something interest to show to the sponsored guys and gals
[01:17] <knome> well, we could always show those iglus
[01:17] <pleia2> the brussels one was in the middle of the woods
[01:17]  * knome 's iglu is very humble, but there are nicer ones
[01:17] <madnick> :)
[01:17] <knome> pleia2, that's something to see too...
[01:18] <pleia2> and your pet polar bear!
[01:18] <knome> maybe organize it in lapland
[01:18] <knome> and you can be in the middle of nowhere
[01:18] <pleia2> they had shuttles into the city each night so we could get drunk
[01:18] <pleia2> it was nice :)
[01:18] <knome> haha
[01:18] <pleia2> we got very drunk
[01:18] <knome> i'm sure you did
[01:18] <knome> with all the belgian beer!!
[01:18] <pleia2> yes!
[01:18] <knome> MEH!
[01:18] <madnick> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Icehotel_%28Jukkasj%C3%A4rvi%29
[01:19] <pleia2> I actually took the opportunity to try every lambic I could find (they still aren't hugely common here in the states, when you find them it's always raspberry)
[01:19] <knome> that would work for me...
[01:19] <knome> pleia2, mmh, too bad. there aren't many brands in finland either, but at least we got variety (not always just raspberry)
[01:19] <pleia2> madnick: wow :)
[01:20] <madnick> :P
[01:20] <pleia2> those are some nice igloos!
[01:20] <knome> madnick, do you know which was first, that or http://www.snowcastle.net/en/ ?
[01:20] <knome> i'd say the latter
[01:21] <pleia2> I blogged all my beer too: http://princessleia.com/journal/?p=2996
[01:21] <pleia2> :d
[01:21] <knome> what did you think of delirium tremens?
[01:21] <madnick> "Existing each year between December and April, the Icehotel in the village of Jukkasjärvi, about 17 km from Kiruna, Sweden was the world's first ice hotel."
[01:21] <knome> hah
[01:21] <knome> okay
[01:22] <knome> but the whole complex?
[01:22] <knome> which was first?
[01:22] <madnick> oh
[01:22] <madnick> Dont know
[01:22] <knome> finns or swedes?
[01:22] <madnick> It doesnt say
[01:22] <knome> mmh
[01:22] <pleia2> knome: love delirium tremens, they have it here too, the hotel bar was pretty limited, only had things I already had
[01:22] <knome> okay
[01:22] <knome> that's not my fav
[01:22] <knome> what bout la chouffe?
[01:22] <pleia2> love la chouffe too (have it here)
[01:22] <knome> oh right
[01:22] <knome> you even blogged that :P
[01:22] <knome> there was no mention of DT
[01:23] <knome> or i just missed that...
[01:23] <madnick> "the shakes"?
[01:23] <knome> shakes on the plane?
[01:23] <madnick> oh
[01:23] <madnick> its a beer
[01:23] <knome> ha
[01:23] <madnick> I thought you meant the condition :P
[01:24] <madnick> i figured it was a really bad bar
[01:24] <knome> lol
[01:24] <pleia2> hehe
[01:24] <knome> delirium nocturnum is their other beer
[01:24] <pleia2> nocturnum is ok
[01:24] <knome> not my fav either
[01:24] <knome> other of them is a bit too tangy and the other is a bit too cardboardy
[01:24]  * astraljava emerges when the topic turns to beer
[01:24]  * knome is not the professional beer-rater
[01:25] <knome> astraljava, well of course.
[01:25] <knome> astraljava, have you ever tasted a rye beer?
[01:25] <astraljava> Yes I have.
[01:25] <astraljava> I forget which, but I have.
[01:25] <knome> okay, enjoyed?
[01:25] <knome> i just bought the one by stadin panimo
[01:25] <astraljava> Yeah, for sure.
[01:25] <knome> a small batch in the flagship alko
[01:25]  * astraljava loves rye in pretty much every form
[01:26] <knome> mmh. never tried a rye beer before
[01:26] <knome> pleia2, you?
[01:26] <pleia2> I don't think so
[01:26] <micahg> knome: it's beta, so relatively stable for a power user
[01:26] <knome> i take that as a definite no ;)
[01:26] <knome> micahg, okay
[01:26] <knome> micahg, btw...
[01:27] <knome> micahg, have you heard me complaining about some display issues when switching to an (imaps) inbox folder
[01:27] <GridCube> i did not remembered today's meeting :(
[01:27] <micahg> knome: not sure what you mean by switching
[01:27] <knome> micahg, i mean, changing the account, or sometimes when running TB
[01:28] <knome> micahg, sometimes the initial view is weird
[01:28] <knome> micahg, no idea how to reproduce, but i can take a shot the next time i hit it
[01:28] <knome> pleia2, so have you even tasted rye bread? :)
[01:29] <pleia2> knome: not that I'm aware of
[01:29] <GridCube> knome, i added my opinions to he wiki page about the default window manager shortcuts in its moment, please tell me those are not among the changes that are going to happen
[01:29] <knome> pleia2, okay, so haven't :)
[01:29] <knome> GridCube, the ones under "detailed specification" are what we're pushing, the ones between "obsolete/superseded" not
[01:30] <GridCube> :D oh thats okay then
[01:30] <GridCube> thank you very
[01:30] <GridCube> much
[01:30] <knome> np
[01:31] <micahg> knome: screenshot might help, no idea what you mean
[01:32] <knome> micahg, is there something that would make TB more closed than just closing the window?
[01:32] <knome> is there some daemon or so that needs to be ran on boot, that is left open or so
[01:34] <micahg> knome: no, if it doesn't close in a timely manner, that's a bug (which I think might already be known)
[01:34] <knome> no, that's not it
[01:35] <knome> i was just thinking because i think this might happen more when TB is opened the first time after buut
[01:35] <knome> *boot
[01:35] <knome> but that might be just me...
[01:37] <astraljava> knome: I'm sorry, I havem
[01:37] <astraljava> sorry
[01:37] <knome> hm? :)
[01:37] <astraljava> I haven't followed the whole of the conversation.
[01:37] <knome> no problem
[01:37] <astraljava> But I use TB, so can I double-check anything?
[01:38] <knome> well, i'm wondering how to reproduce...
[01:38] <astraljava> Ahh... the opening view is strange.
[01:38] <knome> AH!
[01:38] <knome> I GET IT I GET IT
[01:38] <knome> IT'S HERE
[01:39] <knome> THE BULL IS HERE!
[01:39] <astraljava> Hahah!
[01:39] <astraljava> "Where is ze bull..."
[01:40] <astraljava> Oh man, this is one of those games for the Bruins... *frown*
[01:42] <knome> micahg, http://temp.knome.fi/other/tb-bug-contentview.png
[01:42] <knome> micahg, FAIL
[01:43]  * micahg isn't sure what he's looking at
[01:43] <knome> micahg, try the message area :)
[01:43] <knome> and the headers area :)
[01:45] <astraljava> knome: Were there some specific steps to reproduce, or is it just the full moon?
[01:45] <knome> astraljava, i think, send a utf8-encoded mail as plaintext, might need to have scands in the title too
[01:45] <micahg> seems like a corrupted index or something, my guess is there's probably a bug for it upstream, but not sure
[01:46] <knome> well yeah, but HOW DO I FIX THIS
[01:46] <knome> :P
[01:46] <knome> it's pretty annoying
[01:49] <knome> and yes, the most annoying part is that when you reload the message (open another and get back to the original one), it's displayed as it should
[01:49] <knome> astraljava, can you repro?
[01:52] <astraljava> knome: I couldn't, but I'm trying to double-check that the message actually leaves as utf-8.
[01:52] <knome> astraljava, i can send you the exact same message
[01:52] <knome> if you want...
[01:54] <astraljava> knome: Yes please. firstname.surname@gmail.com
[01:54] <knome> astraljava, i don't need your permission. sent.
[01:54] <knome> meh
[01:54] <knome> i sent to kapsi
[01:54] <knome> but just a sec
[01:54] <astraljava> Nah, I use mutt on there.
[01:54] <knome> okay, done
[01:55] <knome> comes from knomex@samedomain
[01:55] <knome> boo google for not allowing five-letter mail accts
[01:57] <astraljava> Wow. That's strange.
[01:57] <knome> do you have imaps or just imap
[01:57] <knome> or pop(s)
[01:57] <astraljava> IMAP with SSL/TLS
[01:58] <knome> okay
[01:58] <astraljava> It's not showing up.
[01:58] <knome> at all?
[01:58] <astraljava> Haha. Marked as Junk. :)
[01:58] <knome> congrats
[01:58] <knome> so, when you first click the message
[01:58] <knome> how does it look?
[01:59] <astraljava> It looks totally correct to me.
[02:00] <knome> right...
[02:00] <knome> i need to do some more tests then
[02:00] <knome> it's kind of delicate
[02:01] <knome> but, i'm off to bed now
[02:01] <knome> see you later!
[02:08] <astraljava> Later.
[11:02] <knome> mr_pouit?
[11:30] <mr_pouit> knome: oui ?
[11:44] <knome> mr_pouit, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Xubuntu/Roadmap/Specifications/Precise/DefaultShortcutKeys
[11:44] <knome> mr_pouit, can you update xubuntu-default-settings with those?
[12:26] <mr_pouit> yeah
[13:11] <knome> mr_pouit, thanks
[13:46] <mr_pouit> Appfinder 
[13:46] <mr_pouit> Super R (Run) 
[13:46] <knome> yes?
[13:46] <mr_pouit> knome: xfce4-appfinder or xfrun4?
[13:46] <knome> isn't xfrun4 in alt+f2
[13:46] <knome> you should ask ochosi, but i'm relatively sure it means appfinder if it reads appfinder :P
[13:47] <mr_pouit> ok
[13:47] <knome> and yes, that makes sense too :)
[13:49] <mr_pouit> and super1/2/3/4 is a bad idea with non-english layout I'm afraid (let me test)
[13:51] <knome> hmm, really?
[13:51] <knome> not the numpad keys, those, of course :)
[13:53] <mr_pouit> anyway, shortcuts with KP_? numbers don't work
[13:53] <mr_pouit> knome: e.g. with a french layout, to write 1 you have to use <shift>&
[13:54] <ochosi> mr_pouit: what version of appfinder will we have in precise?
[13:54] <mr_pouit> so <super>1 won't launch gmusicbrowser, and <super><shift>& neither
[13:54] <knome> mr_pouit, huh, how is it so??
[13:54] <mr_pouit> ochosi: the 4.8 one
[13:54] <ochosi> same as oneiric or will it include the merged version?
[13:54] <ochosi> gah
[13:54] <ochosi> ok, that sucks a bit
[13:55] <ochosi> then probably super+r should trigger appfinder, as xfrun is already on alt+f2
[13:55] <mr_pouit> yep, I did that
[13:55] <ochosi> ok, ty
[13:55] <ochosi> about the other xfce-components, we'll mainly be staying at 4.8, right?
[13:56] <mr_pouit> knome: because 1 doesn't exist, it's a combination of other keys (just like 'E', you can't use that as a shortcut, it's <shift>e actually)
[13:56] <ochosi> mr_pouit: you mean with a french layout there's no easy way to type "1"?
[13:57] <mr_pouit> ochosi: yeah, I only backported things to xfce4-settings
[13:57] <mr_pouit> ochosi: yeah, you have &é"'(-è_çà in place of 1234567890
[13:57] <ochosi> that is really wrong :)
[13:57] <knome> yes, that's totally wrong
[13:57] <knome> what if we just forget the french users?
[13:58] <mr_pouit> http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/b/b9/KB_France.svg
[13:58] <ochosi> about the xfce-cherry-picking. i wanted to ask about the xfwm-tabwin-theming patch
[13:58] <mr_pouit> bah :<
[13:58] <knome> or add the shortcuts for those buttons too
[13:58] <knome> shift+& for gmb
[13:58] <mr_pouit> ochosi: yes, and that
[13:58] <knome> :X
[13:58] <ochosi> phu, we will never know in what other layouts that creates conflucts
[13:58] <knome> ochosi, well yeah but you know, the FRENCH
[13:58] <ochosi> :)
[13:58] <knome> let's just add the numbers
[13:59] <knome> and tell in release notes that they might not work for all layouts
[13:59] <ochosi> mr_pouit: ok, not sure there is much more to cherrypick. if we have a decent version of ristretto (anything above 0.1 should be ok) then that's all i originally intended
[14:00] <ochosi> mr_pouit: i mean the merged appfinder might be nice, cause i think that should work without updating other stuff, no?
[14:00] <ochosi> mr_pouit: but it depends on how much time you have, it's nothing of too much importance i guess
[14:00] <knome> LOL
[14:00] <knome> i typoed my vbox P machine name
[14:00] <knome> "knome-preciese-vbox"
[14:00] <knome> very precise indeed
[14:00] <ochosi> knome: i think the "ochosi to invest cherrypicking from upstream" can be closed in the meeting-agenda
[14:01] <knome> yeah, thanks
[14:01] <knome> i'll just not repost it in the next meeting then
[14:01] <ochosi> yup, that should be fine
[14:01] <ochosi> other than that, i'm afraid we might have to postpone the bluebird-port, now that i have greybird-bugs to fix :(
[14:02] <knome> i'm doing this only because this way, people don't forget their stuff
[14:02] <knome> and we can remind them
[14:02] <ochosi> yeah, makes sense
[14:02] <knome> meh for bluebird
[14:02] <ochosi> well, i'm the only one working on all of this, it's simply not enough time
[14:02] <ochosi> i didn't expect having to fix greybird-bugs at all
[14:02] <knome> i understand, and np :)
[14:03] <ochosi> mr_pouit: what's the deadline for having the greybird-bugs fixed?
[14:03] <mr_pouit> ochosi: I'll see what I can do (as xfrun4 was merged in it, it will conflict with xfce4-utils though)
[14:03] <mr_pouit> ochosi: final freeze, so plenty of time
[14:03] <ochosi> knome: maybe i can improve bluebird so far that it can be shipped with precise, even if it's not great. but no promises there...
[14:03] <knome> ochosi, i postponed your bb work item
[14:03] <ochosi> mr_pouit: ah, good to know.
[14:03] <knome> ochosi, if you get it done, great, then change the status to DONE
[14:04] <ochosi> knome: ok, let's do it this way. at least now the status is more accurate
[14:04] <knome> exactly
[14:04] <knome> and now i'm not worrying about it
[14:04] <ochosi> :)
[14:04] <knome> i only track the BLOCKED-TODO-INPROGESS -progress
[14:05] <ochosi> problem with bluebird is: i have to apply all those fixes i have to do for greybird now to bluebird as well :(
[14:05] <ochosi> which basically means rebasing it
[14:09] <mr_pouit> some work is needed for the icon theme too :)
[14:09] <mr_pouit> (wrt missing icons)
[14:12] <ochosi> mr_pouit: ah, true. mainly the category items are missing now, right?
[14:13] <ochosi> mr_pouit: i mean the keyboard-icons are already in git
[14:19] <mr_pouit> yeah
[14:20] <knome> hmm
[14:20] <knome> mr_pouit, 
[14:20] <knome> when i write a message in thunderbird
[14:20] <knome> xubuntu is "misspelled"
[14:20] <GridCube> :P thats normal
[14:21] <knome> when i check the spelling, it suggests to replace it with "Kubuntu", "Ubuntu" or "Edubuntu"
[14:21] <GridCube> D: thats not
[14:21] <knome> how do we add "Xubuntu" to the correctly spelled list?
[14:22] <ochosi> hehe
[14:22] <ochosi> submit a bug in aspell? :)
[14:23] <knome> maybe...
[14:23] <knome> bbl
[14:23] <GridCube> aspell works with thunderbird? isnt it the firefox dictionary?
[15:22] <astraljava> News from the release people: DO NOT UPGRADE TODAY, if you have nVidia hardware. There is an issue between the recent libc and nVidia graphics drivers.
[15:22] <astraljava> More info at eleven. Err... https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/nvidia-graphics-drivers/+bug/929384
[15:50] <knome> mr_pouit, so, are the shortcuts updated ? ;))
[16:01] <knome> 17:58  tejaswidp: Why are lex and yacc installed by default (along with flex and bison)? Are there applications which use these programs?
[16:02] <knome> mr_pouit, ^
[16:33] <mr_pouit> knome: yes, I'll commit/upload when I'm home
[16:39] <mr_pouit> knome: gthumb
[16:39] <mr_pouit>    * Add runtime dependency (as Recommends) on bison and flex,
[16:39] <mr_pouit>      needed by the webalbums plugin. They're Recommends because they
[16:39] <mr_pouit>      don't harm the core functionality of the program.
[16:40] <mr_pouit> I could demote them to suggests
[16:41] <mr_pouit> (but someone who uses gthumb regularly should confirm that these plugins aren't that useful)
[17:04] <knome> mm
[17:05] <knome> apparently they are for "webalbums"
[17:05] <knome> btw, is there a reason to keep seeding gthumb now that ristretto is fine?
[17:08] <mr_pouit> import from cameras?
[17:08] <mr_pouit> (and the plugin is for static webalbums, apparently there are different plugins for picasa, etc.)
[17:12] <knome>  hmm. isn't most cameras mounted to /media ?
[17:13] <ochosi> depends on what protocol they use
[17:13] <ochosi> but i dunno, i mean xubuntu never supported camera-management by default
[17:16] <mr_pouit> also, there's no use at all of pastebinit byd efault, really
[17:16] <mr_pouit> (if we start cleaning the seeds)
[17:17] <ochosi> +1 :)
[17:21] <mr_pouit> http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~xubuntu-dev/ubuntu-seeds/xubuntu.precise/view/head:/desktop#L89
[17:21] <mr_pouit> and the list of panel plugins installed by default could be cleaned/improved too (it hasn't changed for several years I think)
[17:22] <mr_pouit> (probably cpugraph/systemload/netload have some feature overlap)
[17:23] <ochosi> yeah, i agree on the plugins
[17:24] <ochosi> i think i've asked that a few times before, but vinagre by default?
[17:25] <mr_pouit> remote desktop :>
[17:25] <ochosi> yeah i know
[17:25] <ochosi> but really, i've _never_ used that
[17:25] <ochosi> i once tried, and it didn't work
[17:26] <ochosi> anyhoo, i propose we drop the mount-plugin and the free-space-checker
[17:26] <ochosi> i think that's fsguard, no?
[17:26] <ochosi> aasdf
[17:26] <ochosi> gah, sry
[17:27] <ochosi> i just tried the smartbookmark-plugin
[17:27] <ochosi> that one doesn't even work
[17:27] <mr_pouit> yeah, I propose to drop mailwatch and smartbookmark (too buggy)
[17:27] <ochosi> so those three i
[17:27] <ochosi> hm, mailwatch works ok actually
[17:27] <mr_pouit> we could add xkb-plugin by default, recent versions should have improved
[17:27] <ochosi> at least for my gf
[17:27] <mr_pouit> ok
[17:27] <ochosi> yeah, why not
[17:28] <ochosi> drop: fsguard,mount,smartbookmark
[17:28] <ochosi> add: xkb
[17:28] <ochosi> knome: ^
[17:28] <ochosi> i think that roughly makes sense
[17:28] <mr_pouit> drop: places too, I think
[17:28] <ochosi> yeah, it's still based on thunar-vfs, no?
[17:29] <mr_pouit> no, I included a patch from upstream bugzilla
[17:29] <ochosi> oh ok
[17:29] <ochosi> so it works ok again now?
[17:29] <knome> imo pastebinit is ~okay
[17:29] <mr_pouit> I'm not sure it's that tested/used in xubuntu, since we dropped it from the default panel layout though
[17:29] <ochosi> yeah, well pastebinit is a power-user thing. no "normal" user would ever use that
[17:29] <knome> ochosi, well, it helps when giving support @ #xubuntu 
[17:30] <knome> "do 'pastebinit /eat/poop/you/cat'"
[17:30] <ochosi> mr_pouit: mounting etc seems to work in places
[17:30] <ochosi> that
[17:30] <ochosi> so that's nice
[17:30] <ochosi> bbl
[17:31] <knome> ok for me to drop vinagre
[17:31] <knome> i mean, it is clearly a power-user tool
[17:32] <knome> and for the panel plugin changes: OK
[17:32] <knome> going to buy some milk, quark and other stuff
[17:32] <knome> including some beer :P
[17:32] <ochosi> btw, parole has been unmaintained for quite a while now
[17:32] <knome> awwh
[17:32] <knome> i never liked it
[17:32] <ochosi> i talked to the others at fosdem, no-one wants to touch it
[17:32]  * knome hides
[17:33] <ochosi> so we might start to think about alternatives there
[17:33] <ochosi> maybe just use mplayer2? :)
[17:34] <knome> urr
[17:34] <knome> don't know
[17:34] <knome> maybe start by writing a wikipage of the alternatives
[17:35] <knome> and then doing some sort of quick comparison
[17:35] <knome> and discuss that at next meeting
[17:35] <ochosi> hm, maybe
[17:35] <ochosi> totem totally sucks in oneiric btw
[17:35] <knome> could get it changed for precise
[17:35] <ochosi> the icons are completely broken
[17:35] <knome> imo, most video players suck
[17:35] <knome> anyawy, i'm off to the store
[17:35] <knome> bbl
[17:35] <ochosi> m
[17:44] <nanotube> vlc
[18:19] <astraljava> gmb
[18:20] <ochosi> gmb doesn't play videos
[18:21] <micahg> totem is staying on 3.x due to unwanted dependencies for the LTS
[18:21] <micahg> err, 3.0.x
[18:21] <astraljava> Oh. I just thought people were throwing three-letter acronyms up in the air.
[18:21] <ochosi> micahg: is that the same version as in oneiric?
[18:22] <micahg> yes
[18:22] <ochosi> oh, then we're probably better off with parole as it is :)
[18:22] <micahg> parole works fine for me in precise
[18:23] <ochosi> yeah, it just has some serious design-issues imo
[18:58]  * knome is back
[20:53] <knome> somebody been testing the iso's ?
[20:53] <knome> i installed precise in vbox today and maybe-ubiquity looked okay
[20:54] <Unit193> Just synced up, but I hate maybe-ubiquity anyway
[20:54] <knome> :P
[20:54] <knome> get used to it
[20:55] <knome> but is it looking okay?
[20:55] <knome> somebody said it's purple, but i didn't see that
[20:55] <knome> maybe that's fixed?
[20:57] <Unit193> You can skip it if you set your video ram down, but I´m not supposed to do that :/
[20:57] <knome> hmm.
[20:57] <knome> i wonder if i missed it then.
[20:57] <knome> how low do you need to set the video ram?
[20:57] <knome> or, how much do you need to have to get the purple?
[20:59] <Unit193> 36 Seems to pick it up (IIRC)
[20:59] <knome> right
[20:59]  * knome checks
[21:02] <knome> no, in the "Try"/"Install" -screen, i don't have any purple - is that where it should appear?
[21:03] <mr_pouit> gmb 1.1.9 uploaded to precise
[21:03] <knome> mr_pouit, woohoo
[21:03] <micahg> quadrispro got to it first :)
[21:03] <mr_pouit> (that wasn't me)
[21:03] <mr_pouit> yeah
[21:08] <Unit193> 36 I don{t think got it, but 50 sure did. It is a black screen
[21:22] <mr_pouit> knome: new shortcuts committed to bzr (somebody can upload when there are more changes ready, or when he/she's bored)
[21:26] <knome> ha :)
[21:26] <knome> good
[21:26] <knome> and thanks :)
[21:26]  * knome has the 'bad elf' in glass
[23:28] <knome> ochosi, what's the status of the new elementary-fork? it doesn't seem to be in precise yet