| Darkwing | Riddell: ping | 00:24 | 
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| Darkwing | nigelb: ping | 00:27 | 
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| nigelb | Darkwing: pong. I see your email. | 03:33 | 
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| nigelb | hey ejat | 03:46 | 
| ejat | hows ya day ? | 03:46 | 
| nigelb | going to be long. I need to run around for some event related logistics. | 03:48 | 
| Darkwing | nigelb: I was going to ask for your email but I got it. | 04:04 | 
| nigelb | :) | 04:04 | 
| Darkwing | yay. new big bang theory. obbligatos | 04:05 | 
| Darkwing | bbl | 04:05 | 
| Darkwing | damn auto correct | 04:05 | 
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| yofel | apoi: put the new kde-gtk-config on my todo list, as I was working on gtk3 anyway | 06:18 | 
| yofel | tab fail, sry | 06:19 | 
| yofel | I've looked it kde-gtk-config for a moment yesterday, seems to work ok, but haven't looked at it codewise | 06:26 | 
| yofel | I'll write up the changes for startkde today (as settings.ini need the same initial creation as gtkrc) | 06:26 | 
| yofel | *needs | 06:27 | 
| amichair_ | afiestas: didn't see u here for a few days... is there a fix you'd like me to try to the suspend bug? | 06:52 | 
| amichair_ | afiestas: btw, I've experimented and confirmed my suspicion: suspend works ok until the first time an external monitor is connected - after that, it never works when the lid is closed (event after the monitor is later disconnected) | 06:54 | 
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| apachelogger_ | yofel: gtk just needs fixing!!$!! :P | 08:37 | 
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| apachelogger | Tm_T: isn't that a compatibility package? | 09:44 | 
| apachelogger | transitional or what w ecall it :P | 09:44 | 
| Tm_T | apachelogger: could be, just noticed a 3rd-party package depend on it | 09:52 | 
| apachelogger | yes, they do that :P | 09:53 | 
| apachelogger | perhaps you should inform the 3rd party to update their package :P | 09:53 | 
| apachelogger | this qt4-gui is not around forever :P | 09:53 | 
| apachelogger | !find libqt4-gui | 09:53 | 
| ubottu | Found: libqt4-gui | 09:53 | 
| apachelogger | !info libqt4-gui | 09:53 | 
| ubottu | libqt4-gui (source: qt4-x11): transitional package for Qt 4 GUI runtime libraries. In component main, is optional. Version 4:4.7.4-0ubuntu8.1 (oneiric), package size 8 kB, installed size 128 kB (Only available for any all) | 09:53 | 
| apachelogger | yeah, that is transitional | 09:53 | 
| apachelogger | the earlier they change to the prper package, the better for them | 09:54 | 
| Tm_T | yup | 09:54 | 
| Kurdistan | hi dear user. there is some thing missing when upgrading to kde 4.8.0 for me in kwin. even if I can se them in kwinrc. | 09:54 | 
| Kurdistan | bug? | 09:54 | 
| Tm_T | something? | 09:55 | 
| Kurdistan | http://imgur.com/UyFJO | 09:55 | 
| Kurdistan | functional check is not there | 09:55 | 
| Kurdistan | nor direct rending option | 09:56 | 
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| Tm_T | Kurdistan: AFAIK it's intended | 09:57 | 
| Kurdistan | Tm_T, did not understand your last comment. | 09:59 | 
| Tm_T | Kurdistan: as far as I can tell, it's intended that functional check and accompanying options are gone from the configuration UI | 10:00 | 
| Kurdistan | Tm_T, okey then it is not bug then :). | 10:00 | 
| Tm_T | atleast that's how I recall it was planned | 10:00 | 
| Kurdistan | maybe not they wanted people to not to break there system if they play | 10:01 | 
| Kurdistan | it can easily be config. in kwinrc. but gui is always easiest :). | 10:01 | 
| apachelogger | functional checks? | 10:02 | 
| apachelogger | ah, functionality check? | 10:02 | 
| Kurdistan | apachelogger, exactly. :) | 10:02 | 
| apachelogger | yeah, that was removed | 10:02 | 
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| apachelogger | it works or it doesn't :P | 10:03 | 
| Kurdistan | apachelogger, also direct rending option? | 10:03 | 
| Kurdistan | apachelogger, not always true. when I enabled kwin effect to start at boot I can get error message even if effects works. | 10:03 | 
| Tm_T | Kurdistan: what error message? | 10:04 | 
| apachelogger | that is a driver bug then and should be fixed there | 10:04 | 
| apachelogger | direct rendering is always on | 10:04 | 
| Kurdistan | apachelogger, yes it is more driver bug. | 10:04 | 
| Kurdistan | Tm_T, that effects does not work. does I have enabled. | 10:04 | 
| apachelogger | shadeslayer: stateness in rekonq is wrong | 10:05 | 
| apachelogger | shadeslayer: the back button only becomes active *after* a new page was loaded | 10:05 | 
| apachelogger | whereas it should be active after the old page was left (that is immediately after clicking a link for example) | 10:06 | 
| apachelogger | naturally back then cancels the loading | 10:07 | 
| apachelogger | and goes back | 10:07 | 
| Kurdistan | Does Aleix visit the channel? | 10:09 | 
| Kurdistan | wanted to ask him about two package I think should be installed by default. One of the package is not in the repo. | 10:09 | 
| Kurdistan | kde-gtk-config is really important if kubuntu wants a serious impression. espacially the lack of gtk integration we are wll aware of with kubuntu. | 10:11 | 
| Riddell | Kurdistan: yes, he's apol_ | 10:12 | 
| Riddell | he agrees it should be done | 10:12 | 
| Kurdistan | Riddell, :) I am happy. | 10:12 | 
| Kurdistan | Riddell, then I know Kubuntu will rock even more. | 10:13 | 
| Riddell | it's not as simple as that, it needs someone to do it | 10:13 | 
| Kurdistan | Riddell, do you mean package? | 10:14 | 
| Kurdistan | packing I mean | 10:14 | 
| Riddell | package, test, MIR, QA, CD inclusion and resizing | 10:14 | 
| Kurdistan | package I can help out, but the others I do not know. | 10:15 | 
| apol_ | Kurdistan: hi | 10:17 | 
| apol_ | i'm aleix | 10:17 | 
| apol_ | I have to go now | 10:18 | 
| apol_ | if I can help you, don't hesitate to contact me, either here or by e-mail | 10:18 | 
| apol_ | Riddell: as I said yesterday, there's someone in debian already packaging this | 10:18 | 
| apol_ | can kubuntu use that? how do you guys manage? | 10:19 | 
| Kurdistan | apoi, hi. nice. I really wanted kubuntu to be the best damn kde distro out there. | 10:19 | 
| Kurdistan | apoi, I know chakra/arch use it, also kubuntu based netrunner. | 10:19 | 
| apol_ | :) | 10:20 | 
| apol_ | well, i have to go | 10:20 | 
| apol_ | later! | 10:20 | 
| Kurdistan | http://packages.netrunner-os.com/pool/main/k/kde-gtk-config/ | 10:20 | 
| Riddell | apol_: yes we can use debian packages | 10:20 | 
| Riddell | but feature freeze is next week | 10:20 | 
| apachelogger | '.' | 10:21 | 
| apachelogger | (Dot.) In the default mode, this matches any character except a newline. If the DOTALL flag has been specified, this matches any character including a newline. | 10:21 | 
| apachelogger | who makes up stuff like that?!?!1 | 10:21 | 
| Kurdistan | Riddell, when I looked to there debian folder directery and wanted to build from source it did not really work. | 10:21 | 
| Kurdistan | kde-config-grub2 is in the repo. it also nice tool have installed by default. | 10:24 | 
| Kurdistan | for me it is more important then cd size to be honest | 10:24 | 
| Kurdistan | every tool that can help user to like kubuntu even more is good | 10:24 | 
| Riddell | that needs more QA than we have capacity for | 10:26 | 
| Kurdistan | Riddell, what is QA? | 10:26 | 
| Tm_T | quality assurance | 10:27 | 
| Tm_T | or in the other words: test, fix, test, fix, test, fix, test... and then find out there's whole group of cases you cannot test yourselves but have serious problems | 10:28 | 
| Kurdistan | Tm_T, I understand. but if a package is in our repo it should be save | 10:29 | 
| Tm_T | Kurdistan: every app that do exist on the repositories do help people to like kubuntu even more | 10:29 | 
| Kurdistan | because why then have it in the repo? | 10:29 | 
| debfx | Kurdistan: how does kde-gtk-config store the gtk{2,3} theme config? | 10:29 | 
| Kurdistan | debfx, good to be honest. | 10:30 | 
| Kurdistan | debfx, even libreoffice, pavucontrol and stuff like that looks great now. | 10:30 | 
| debfx | ok :) | 10:30 | 
| Kurdistan | before libreoffice it was hard to read letters | 10:30 | 
| debfx | Kurdistan: but where does it store the config? | 10:30 | 
| Tm_T | Kurdistan: having in repositories doesn't mean it has gone through proper QA | 10:30 | 
| debfx | we only want to set the gtk theme for kde sessions | 10:31 | 
| Kurdistan | Tm_T, okey. I have used both for weeks without any problem. | 10:31 | 
| Kurdistan | debfx, do you wanted I can take screenshot? | 10:31 | 
| Tm_T | Kurdistan: good, so that's a start (: | 10:31 | 
| Kurdistan | Tm_T, it have helped people I have helped in swedish ubuntu loco | 10:32 | 
| debfx | Kurdistan: no, I'm interested into which file it writes the gtk config | 10:33 | 
| Kurdistan | kde-gtk-config settings look like this: http://imgur.com/GylUW | 10:34 | 
| Kurdistan | debfx, https://projects.kde.org/projects/playground/base/kde-gtk-config | 10:34 | 
| debfx | ok, so it writes to ~/gtk-3.0/settings.ini | 10:37 | 
| debfx | that approach won't work unless apachelogger proposes a patch for gtk3 so it reads from a different config file | 10:38 | 
| Kurdistan | debfx, are you sure? | 10:39 | 
| Kurdistan | for me it is .gtkrc-2.0/.gtkrc-2.0-kde4 | 10:40 | 
| Kurdistan | does are related to kde-gtk-config | 10:40 | 
| debfx | yeah for gtk2 it isn't a problem | 10:40 | 
| Kurdistan | ~/.config/gtk-3.0 <<--- debfx | 10:41 | 
| Kurdistan | debfx, is there any problem if it is in .config directery? | 10:42 | 
| debfx | Kurdistan: no, but it's a problem that it sets the gtk3 theme for all sessions | 10:43 | 
| Kurdistan | debfx, and it should not? | 10:43 | 
| Kurdistan | I do not se the harm or problem with it | 10:44 | 
| debfx | Kurdistan: it's bad if you use kde and another DE in parallel (xfce, gnome, ...) | 10:44 | 
| Kurdistan | debfx, I okey. I am only using one DE, maybe thats the reason I have not seen any problem with it. | 10:45 | 
| Kurdistan | debfx, how common is it if a person wants to run more then one DE if he/she uses Kubuntu? | 10:48 | 
| debfx | Kurdistan: I don't know but it's something that we have supported so far and I wouldn't want to drop it | 10:50 | 
| Kurdistan | debfx, okey, we other words it will be impossible to get kde-gtk-config installed by default. can we atleast have it the repo? | 10:51 | 
| apachelogger | debfx: I do not think we should waste time on making 1% get better GTK theming | 10:58 | 
| Kurdistan | apachelogger, then kubuntu should remove libreoffice by default. | 10:59 | 
| apachelogger | particularly since they will not have it because GTK3 is not particularly cross desktop | 10:59 | 
| Kurdistan | because it looks bad in kubuntu | 10:59 | 
| apachelogger | I do not see why we should spend time on workaround around GTK dev's inability to consider cross desktop envrionments | 11:00 | 
| apachelogger | if they do not care, we should not care all that much either TBH | 11:00 | 
| Kurdistan | apachelogger, I understand you, but then again kubuntu suffers if they have gtk stuff installed and it looks bad. | 11:00 | 
| Kurdistan | it is impossible to read letters in libreoffice with kubuntu | 11:01 | 
| apachelogger | screenshot | 11:01 | 
| Kurdistan | black against black looks ugly | 11:01 | 
| Kurdistan | apachelogger, I have fixed it, so I do not need it. | 11:01 | 
| apachelogger | I want a screenshot of the issue | 11:02 | 
| debfx | LO looks fine with the default color scheme | 11:02 | 
| Kurdistan | debfx, have your mouse over example "save" and you will notice you can not read save by default in kubuntu. | 11:03 | 
| Kurdistan | it looks bad. | 11:03 | 
| Kurdistan | debfx, I can not take screenshot on that. | 11:04 | 
| Kurdistan | debfx, http://pavel.frimix.se/wp-content/uploads/2011/08/Markering_006.png it looks like the dark in that picture on the toolbar. | 11:05 | 
| apachelogger | that is hardly a reason to remove the one and only office suite?!! | 11:07 | 
| debfx | Kurdistan: works fine for me http://imgbin.org/images/6715.png | 11:08 | 
| Kurdistan | debfx, it is not the text you write that is the main problem. | 11:09 | 
| Kurdistan | have your mouse over toolbar | 11:10 | 
| Kurdistan | over save and you should not be able to read | 11:10 | 
| Kurdistan | install pavucontrol same there | 11:10 | 
| Kurdistan | but you guys decide, I know for sure that this is something that effects a lot of user. | 11:12 | 
| debfx | aha so you are talking about unthemed gtk? | 11:12 | 
| Kurdistan | I am active in support session in loco | 11:12 | 
| Kurdistan | debfx, yes. | 11:13 | 
| debfx | Kurdistan: no one is arguing for having unthemed gtk | 11:14 | 
| Kurdistan | kde-gtk-config fix the problem but again you guys decide. | 11:14 | 
| Kurdistan | I know the problem does not existed in mandriva/pclinuxos | 11:15 | 
| Kurdistan | so they are not effected but kubuntu users are | 11:15 | 
| debfx | it fixes a problem but introduces another so I think we should first try to get xsettings-kde working | 11:16 | 
| Kurdistan | debfx, it there is another fix I am glad. my wish is that it will be fixed. | 11:17 | 
| Kurdistan | what will fix it does not matter for me | 11:17 | 
| Kurdistan | debfx, I hope you are not offended. I only wanted things to just work for user. | 11:23 | 
| Kurdistan | then my work :) with support kubuntu/ubuntu in swedish loco will be easier. | 11:24 | 
| yofel | debfx: with xsettings-kde and the patch from fedore, it doesn't do a thing on my thinkpad(64bit) which might be due to my gtk settings being a mess. On my eeePC (32bit) it crashes at a place where it shouldn't crash (except if it's a thread issue) | 11:25 | 
| Kurdistan | yofel, you mean fedora patches fix it for you? | 11:26 | 
| yofel | no, they break it | 11:26 | 
| yofel | but without them it doesn't do what we want either | 11:26 | 
| Kurdistan | yofel, maybe we should look what mandriva and pclinuxos have done | 11:26 | 
| debfx | Kurdistan: don't worry, I'm not offended :) | 11:26 | 
| debfx | yofel: with the latest xsettigns-kde version? | 11:26 | 
| Kurdistan | yofel, the problem is not presented there. | 11:27 | 
| yofel | with 0.12.3 or whatever latest I could find was | 11:27 | 
| yofel | debfx: package is here if you want to give it a try: https://launchpad.net/~yofel/+archive/ppa/+packages | 11:28 | 
| Kurdistan | again maybe we should look for xsettings-kde with mandriva/pclinuxos. | 11:29 | 
| Kurdistan | if thats the best solution | 11:29 | 
| debfx | yofel: I think you have the old version of the patch | 11:31 | 
| debfx | "fix use-after-free bug in my patch" so that could explain the crashes :) | 11:32 | 
| yofel | talk about me being tired -.- | 11:32 | 
| yofel | I'll fix that up later | 11:33 | 
| yofel | thanks | 11:33 | 
| Kurdistan | debfx, the patch fix the xsetting-kde for you? | 11:34 | 
| debfx | haven't tried yet | 11:35 | 
| debfx | eww that package uses cdbs | 11:36 | 
| Kurdistan | debfx, okey. if it works then we do not need a package outside the repo :). | 11:36 | 
| yofel | we'll still need a MIR for xsettings-kde then | 11:45 | 
| debfx | yofel: I've updated the package: http://people.ubuntu.com/~debfx/xsettings-kde.debdiff | 11:55 | 
| debfx | seems to work fine | 11:55 | 
| yofel | doesn't work on my thinkpad, but as I said, my gtk setup is broken here | 12:04 | 
| yofel | (it uses oxygen-gtk whether I have xsettings running or not) | 12:04 | 
| debfx | yofel: rm ~/.config/gtk-3.0/settings.ini doesn't work? | 12:06 | 
| yofel | that's gone already, including any gconf/dconf/gsettings config files that I could fine. Maybe I missed something | 12:07 | 
| yofel | s/fine/find/ | 12:07 | 
| kubotu | yofel meant: "that's gone already, including any gconf/dconf/gsettings config files that I could find. Maybe I missed something" | 12:07 | 
| yofel | I'll try this on my eeePC once the package built in my ppa, should work there | 12:09 | 
| debfx | ok, I've filed a MIr for oxygen-gtk3 | 12:10 | 
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| Riddell | debfx: if it doesn't get in by early next week we'll need to poke people and worst case pre-promote it | 12:58 | 
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| BluesKaj | hiyas all | 13:13 | 
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| Riddell | skaet: I'm off ill and unlikely to make the meeting later | 13:53 | 
| apachelogger | Riddell: when is the meeting, shall I attend instead or do we have nothing worth mention anyway? | 13:55 | 
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| Riddell | apachelogger: oh the release team meeting? if you can stay online for an hour during it yes that would be good | 14:01 | 
| Riddell | it's in two hours (or is it 2.5 hours?) | 14:02 | 
| Riddell | mention we haven't done anything much useful, telepathy, rekonq, owncloud, oxygen-gtk3 still to be done before FF | 14:02 | 
| apachelogger | kk | 14:02 | 
| apachelogger | can someone pleaes fix bug 810529 before FF | 14:15 | 
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 810529 in kubuntu-meta (Ubuntu) "[regression] Kubuntu contributors using broken editors" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/810529 | 14:15 | 
| Kurdistan | apachelogger, is FF, firefox? | 14:19 | 
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| yofel | Kurdistan: Feature Freeze | 14:44 | 
| * apachelogger would totally love to have jira as BTS | 14:52 | |
| ScottK | apachelogger: release meeting is on. | 16:01 | 
| yofel | debfx: new xsettings-kde works, but only at login. If I want to change the gtk3 theme I need to change it any logout | 16:02 | 
| yofel | *and logout | 16:05 | 
| debfx | yofel: we could restart xsettings-kde in kcm-gtk ;) | 16:37 | 
| yofel | true, that helps.. | 16:38 | 
| yofel | folks, welcome grmls, a future potential iso tester | 16:46 | 
| grmls | hi | 16:46 | 
| grmls | thx for welcome yofel ;) | 16:47 | 
| BluesKaj | hi grmls | 16:58 | 
| grmls | hi BluesKaj | 16:59 | 
| apachelogger | welcome grmls | 17:01 | 
| apachelogger | yofel: you better be finishing the gtk3 stuff, otherwise you will have to explain at the next release meeting why we need an ffe for that stuff | 17:01 | 
| grmls | thx apachelogger | 17:01 | 
| apachelogger | yofel: incidentially enough you will also have to take part for kubuntu :P | 17:02 | 
| yofel | acknowledged | 17:02 | 
| debfx | yofel: I guess we should add a comment to kcm-gtk saying that you need to logout for settings to take effect | 17:05 | 
| yofel | or we actually try to do what you said, but I'll need to read up on how to kill and re-launch a process from Qt then | 17:06 | 
| yofel | worst case logging out kills it anyway | 17:06 | 
| * yofel looks at marble patches on packagers | 17:07 | |
| debfx | yofel: xsettings-kde reloads its config when it receives an kipc x11 event | 17:40 | 
| debfx | which is apparently the way settings changes were communicated in kde3 | 17:40 | 
| debfx | yofel: http://people.ubuntu.com/~debfx/kcm-gtk-kipc.debdiff | 17:44 | 
| debfx | seems to work fine for me | 17:44 | 
| yofel | reading | 17:45 | 
| yofel | that's it? :O | 17:46 | 
| * yofel tries | 17:46 | |
| debfx | good old kde3 technology ;) | 17:49 | 
| yofel | hehe | 17:49 | 
| * apachelogger is totally looking forward to 2012, when we will switch to wayland | 18:02 | |
| yofel | debfx: shipit (kcm-gtk and xsettings-kde) | 18:04 | 
| yofel | apachelogger: does it already make coffee for me? | 18:06 | 
| yofel | hm | 18:08 | 
| yofel | just wondering: could we put a checkbox in ubiquity below the propiertary one that installs our -extra packages that don't fit on the CD? | 18:08 | 
| BluesKaj | rekonq is constantly refreshing on my setup , it wont hold a zoom that i need for reading fonts on this large monitor | 18:23 | 
| debfx | yofel: we should add a kconf update script to remove ~/.kde/env/gtk2-default-theme.rc.sh | 18:28 | 
| yofel | does it matter? it's not like it breaks anything. But we can drop the copy command for it from startkde at least | 18:29 | 
| yofel | ah, and we need to add an explicit "gtk-theme-name=oxygen-gtk" to the default gtkrc | 18:30 | 
| debfx | hm yeah, I guess it doesn't hurt setting the GTKRC variable | 18:33 | 
| yofel | debfx: ideally xsettings-kde should read $GTK2_RC_FILE anyway, but I don't feel like messing with that even more | 18:34 | 
| CIA-42 | [lp:~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-default-settings/kubuntu-default-settings] Philip Muškovac * 467 * (debian/changelog usr-share/dot-gtkrc-2.0-kde4) set gtk-theme-name in dot-gtkrc-2.0-kde4 so xsettings-kde picks it up | 18:39 | 
| debfx | how do we currently set oxygen as the default theme? | 18:41 | 
| yofel | startkde copies the initial rc file from kubuntu-default-settings if it's not there | 18:41 | 
| yofel | hm, which means for update we would need a script that makes sure gtk-theme-name= is in there | 18:42 | 
| debfx | yeah but that doesn't actually set the theme name? | 18:42 | 
| yofel | *updates | 18:42 | 
| yofel | well, the default file has: | 18:42 | 
| yofel | include "/usr/share/themes/oxygen-gtk/gtk-2.0/gtkrc" | 18:42 | 
| debfx | aha, I guess 'engine "oxygen-gtk"' does that | 18:44 | 
| apachelogger | debfx: bug 851953 | 19:01 | 
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 851953 in plasma-widget-menubar (Ubuntu) "Rebuild for transition away from desktop file stripping" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/851953 | 19:01 | 
| apachelogger | ScottK: can haz jira for bts? :( | 19:01 | 
| ejat | apachelogger: https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=293264 | 19:04 | 
| ubottu | KDE bug 293264 in widget-misc "plasma-widget-menubar menus not visible since 02-03 updates" [Normal,Resolved: downstream] | 19:04 | 
| ejat | is it solve ? | 19:04 | 
| apachelogger | dunno | 19:04 | 
| debfx | apachelogger: what about that bug? | 19:04 | 
| apachelogger | debfx: can we close them rubbish as all should be rebuilt for sure | 19:04 | 
| apachelogger | also you should answer that question in the last comment or something | 19:05 | 
| ejat | im having the same issue with the bug .. | 19:05 | 
| apachelogger | ejat: on 11.10? | 19:05 | 
| ejat | 12.04 | 19:05 | 
| * apachelogger is not on 12.04 | 19:06 | |
| ejat | :( | 19:06 | 
| apachelogger | works for me on 11.10 | 19:06 | 
| apachelogger | I guess that something in the dbusmenu stuff changed | 19:06 | 
| apachelogger | ejat: agateau is the guy to talk to | 19:06 | 
| * ejat ping agateau | 19:06 | |
| yofel | currently we remove gtk2-default-theme.rc.sh when k-d-s is missing, as that's obsolete now, should we remove the rc file itself? | 19:06 | 
| yofel | or make xsettings-kde use the env var after all | 19:06 | 
| debfx | apachelogger: I doubt all those packages have been rebuilt and we still need to figure out how to translate desktop files for projects that don't use the KDE i18n infrastructure | 19:07 | 
| debfx | yofel: I've uploaded xsettings-kde, could you file the MIR? | 19:07 | 
| yofel | sure | 19:07 | 
| apachelogger | debfx: so we should probably get cracking? | 19:08 | 
| apachelogger | we = you | 19:08 | 
| debfx | apachelogger: first we need to check what happens to launchpad translations once our packages are demoted | 19:15 | 
| CIA-42 | [lp:~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-packaging/kde-workspace] Philip Muškovac * 610 * debian/ (changelog patches/kubuntu_gtk2_engines_oxygen_config.diff) (log message trimmed) | 19:32 | 
| CIA-42 | * kubuntu_gtk2_engines_oxygen_config.diff: - set gtk-theme-name to the current | 19:32 | 
| CIA-42 | value if it's missing in gtkrc-2.0-kde4 - remove gtk2-default-theme.rc.sh on | 19:32 | 
| yofel | someone review that ^ | 19:32 | 
| CIA-42 | [lp:~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-default-settings/kubuntu-default-settings] Philip Muškovac * 468 * (usr-share/gtk2-default-theme.rc.sh debian/changelog) * Drop gtk2-default-theme.rc.sh, not needed anymore | 19:36 | 
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| debfx | yofel: you can simplify it a bit with: if grep -q gtk-theme-name $HOME/.gtkrc-2.0-kde4; then | 19:38 | 
| debfx | instead of if [ -z "`grep gtk-theme-name ... | 19:38 | 
| yofel | ah, thanks, didn't know about -q | 19:38 | 
| CIA-42 | [lp:~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-packaging/kde-workspace] Philip Muškovac * 611 * debian/patches/kubuntu_gtk2_engines_oxygen_config.diff use a simplier grep query | 19:40 | 
| debfx | the gtk-theme-name setting could break for custom gtkrc files (e.g. multiple include statements) | 19:41 | 
| debfx | maybe we should just check if "/usr/share/themes/oxygen-gtk/gtk-2.0/gtkrc" is included and then set the theme to oxygen-gtk | 19:42 | 
| yofel | hm, should one include more than one gtkrc? | 19:44 | 
| yofel | but agreed that the check is too lax | 19:44 | 
| debfx | no, but you can write whatever you want to that file | 19:47 | 
| jussi | hrm, are we aware that Libre office only shows a generic icon in the taskbar in precise? | 19:48 | 
| yofel | debfx: how about this? looks ugly but works for me: | 19:48 | 
| yofel | echo "\ngtk-theme-name=\"`grep \"include \\\"/usr/share/themes/.*/gtk-2.0/gtkrc\\\"\" $HOME/.gtkrc-2.0-kde4 | c ut -d/ -f5`\"" >> $HOME/.gtkrc-2.0-kde4 | 19:48 | 
| jussi | (ie. the X with the yellow/orange circle) | 19:48 | 
| yofel | the .* is lax too though :/ | 19:49 | 
| ScottK | apachelogger: No jira for U. | 19:50 | 
| debfx | splitting that up into multiple lines might be a good idea :) | 19:50 | 
| yofel | heh | 19:50 | 
| debfx | and the amount of character escaping is scary ^^ | 19:50 | 
| debfx | you could use [^/]+ instead of .* | 19:51 | 
| yofel | now: http://paste.kde.org/263312 | 19:52 | 
| yofel | (untested) | 19:52 | 
| yofel | the [^/]+ needs egrep | 19:56 | 
| CIA-42 | [lp:~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-packaging/kde-workspace] Philip Muškovac * 612 * debian/patches/kubuntu_gtk2_engines_oxygen_config.diff tighten the check on the gtkrc include | 20:00 | 
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| yofel | MIR filed for xsettings-kde | 20:25 | 
| Darkwing | ScottK: ping | 20:46 | 
| ScottK | Darkwing: pong | 20:46 | 
| schnelle | guy, is anybody alowed to write to kubuntu-devel mailing list? | 21:21 | 
| schnelle | *guys | 21:21 | 
| schnelle | i mean can i (user) write to kubuntu-devel mailing list? | 21:21 | 
| Riddell | schnelle: yes, if it's about kubuntu development | 21:27 | 
| Riddell | and if you're subscribed | 21:28 | 
| schnelle | Riddell: ok thanks. I will write and explain everything. It is about this bug (look at my last comment) : https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/qt4-x11/+bug/911733 | 21:31 | 
| ubottu | Ubuntu bug 911733 in qt4-x11 (Ubuntu) "Patch Qt to fix annoying KDE bug 275469 (ghost taskbar entries)" [Undecided,Confirmed] | 21:31 | 
| ejat | Riddell: https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=293264 | 21:33 | 
| ubottu | KDE bug 293264 in widget-misc "plasma-widget-menubar menus not visible since 02-03 updates" [Normal,Resolved: downstream] | 21:34 | 
| ejat | resolved downstream mean in ubuntu ? | 21:34 | 
| ejat | sorry kubuntu? | 21:34 | 
| yofel | ejat: downstream means us, right | 21:44 | 
| yofel | except that those packages are from gnumdk? | 21:45 | 
| ejat | so its fixed? | 21:45 | 
| yofel | no idea? | 21:46 | 
| yofel | I don't use it | 21:46 | 
| yofel | ejat: the packages in the bug aren't from us though | 21:47 | 
| yofel | 4.8.0b-11.10ubuntu1~gnumdk10 != 4:4.8.0b-0ubuntu1~oneiric1~ppa1 | 21:48 | 
| ejat | btw .. yofel r u in precise or still oneiric ? | 21:48 | 
| yofel | right now I'm on precise | 21:49 | 
| * ejat just want to know .. if i opening quassel for example .. there is no menu bar ? | 21:49 | |
| ejat | but some other apps got it .. | 21:49 | 
| yofel | my menu bar is there. in *quassel* | 21:49 | 
| ejat | like kontact .. | 21:50 | 
| yofel | I don't use that widget | 21:50 | 
| ejat | is it install by default ? | 21:50 | 
| ejat | since i remember .. i didnt install that widget .. so to so call "resolved" it .. by removing the widget ? | 21:50 | 
| yofel | I think it is | 21:51 | 
| ejat | owh ok .. will try it shortly since i just logout and now in unity .. | 21:51 | 
| ejat | but .. if by installing that widget .. to triger the menu bar is by using krunner? | 21:51 | 
| * ejat ping agateau | 21:52 | |
| CIA-42 | [lp:~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-packaging/kde-workspace] Philip Muškovac * 613 * debian/patches/kubuntu_gtk2_engines_oxygen_config.diff the check needs to be inverted here | 22:37 | 
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