[00:24] <Darkwing> Riddell: ping
[00:27] <Darkwing> nigelb: ping
[03:33] <nigelb> Darkwing: pong. I see your email.
[03:43]  * ejat pokes nigelb :)
[03:46] <nigelb> hey ejat 
[03:46] <ejat> hows ya day ?
[03:48] <nigelb> going to be long. I need to run around for some event related logistics.
[04:04] <Darkwing> nigelb: I was going to ask for your email but I got it. 
[04:04] <nigelb> :)
[04:05] <Darkwing> yay. new big bang theory. obbligatos
[04:05] <Darkwing> bbl
[04:05] <Darkwing> damn auto correct
[06:18] <yofel> apoi: put the new kde-gtk-config on my todo list, as I was working on gtk3 anyway
[06:19] <yofel> tab fail, sry
[06:26] <yofel> I've looked it kde-gtk-config for a moment yesterday, seems to work ok, but haven't looked at it codewise
[06:26] <yofel> I'll write up the changes for startkde today (as settings.ini need the same initial creation as gtkrc)
[06:27] <yofel> *needs
[06:52] <amichair_> afiestas: didn't see u here for a few days... is there a fix you'd like me to try to the suspend bug?
[06:54] <amichair_> afiestas: btw, I've experimented and confirmed my suspicion: suspend works ok until the first time an external monitor is connected - after that, it never works when the lid is closed (event after the monitor is later disconnected)
[08:37] <apachelogger_> yofel: gtk just needs fixing!!$!! :P
[09:44] <apachelogger> Tm_T: isn't that a compatibility package?
[09:44] <apachelogger> transitional or what w ecall it :P
[09:52] <Tm_T> apachelogger: could be, just noticed a 3rd-party package depend on it
[09:53] <apachelogger> yes, they do that :P
[09:53] <apachelogger> perhaps you should inform the 3rd party to update their package :P
[09:53] <apachelogger> this qt4-gui is not around forever :P
[09:53] <apachelogger> !find libqt4-gui
[09:53] <apachelogger> !info libqt4-gui
[09:53] <apachelogger> yeah, that is transitional
[09:54] <apachelogger> the earlier they change to the prper package, the better for them
[09:54] <Tm_T> yup
[09:54] <Kurdistan> hi dear user. there is some thing missing when upgrading to kde 4.8.0 for me in kwin. even if I can se them in kwinrc.
[09:54] <Kurdistan> bug?
[09:55] <Tm_T> something?
[09:55] <Kurdistan> http://imgur.com/UyFJO
[09:55] <Kurdistan> functional check is not there
[09:56] <Kurdistan> nor direct rending option
[09:57] <Tm_T> Kurdistan: AFAIK it's intended
[09:59] <Kurdistan> Tm_T, did not understand your last comment.
[10:00] <Tm_T> Kurdistan: as far as I can tell, it's intended that functional check and accompanying options are gone from the configuration UI
[10:00] <Kurdistan> Tm_T, okey then it is not bug then :).
[10:00] <Tm_T> atleast that's how I recall it was planned
[10:01] <Kurdistan> maybe not they wanted people to not to break there system if they play
[10:01] <Kurdistan> it can easily be config. in kwinrc. but gui is always easiest :).
[10:02] <apachelogger> functional checks?
[10:02] <apachelogger> ah, functionality check?
[10:02] <Kurdistan> apachelogger, exactly. :)
[10:02] <apachelogger> yeah, that was removed
[10:03] <apachelogger> it works or it doesn't :P
[10:03] <Kurdistan> apachelogger, also direct rending option?
[10:03] <Kurdistan> apachelogger, not always true. when I enabled kwin effect to start at boot I can get error message even if effects works. 
[10:04] <Tm_T> Kurdistan: what error message?
[10:04] <apachelogger> that is a driver bug then and should be fixed there
[10:04] <apachelogger> direct rendering is always on 
[10:04] <Kurdistan> apachelogger, yes it is more driver bug.
[10:04] <Kurdistan> Tm_T, that effects does not work. does I have enabled.
[10:05] <apachelogger> shadeslayer: stateness in rekonq is wrong
[10:05] <apachelogger> shadeslayer: the back button only becomes active *after* a new page was loaded
[10:06] <apachelogger> whereas it should be active after the old page was left (that is immediately after clicking a link for example)
[10:07] <apachelogger> naturally back then cancels the loading
[10:07] <apachelogger> and goes back
[10:09] <Kurdistan> Does Aleix visit the channel?
[10:09] <Kurdistan> wanted to ask him about two package I think should be installed by default. One of the package is not in the repo.
[10:11] <Kurdistan> kde-gtk-config is really important if kubuntu wants a serious impression. espacially the lack of gtk integration we are wll aware of with kubuntu.
[10:12] <Riddell> Kurdistan: yes, he's apol_ 
[10:12] <Riddell> he agrees it should be done
[10:12] <Kurdistan> Riddell, :) I am happy.
[10:13] <Kurdistan> Riddell, then I know Kubuntu will rock even more.
[10:13] <Riddell> it's not as simple as that, it needs someone to do it
[10:14] <Kurdistan> Riddell, do you mean package?
[10:14] <Kurdistan> packing I mean
[10:14] <Riddell> package, test, MIR, QA, CD inclusion and resizing
[10:15] <Kurdistan> package I can help out, but the others I do not know.
[10:17] <apol_> Kurdistan: hi
[10:17] <apol_> i'm aleix
[10:18] <apol_> I have to go now
[10:18] <apol_> if I can help you, don't hesitate to contact me, either here or by e-mail
[10:18] <apol_> Riddell: as I said yesterday, there's someone in debian already packaging this
[10:19] <apol_> can kubuntu use that? how do you guys manage?
[10:19] <Kurdistan> apoi, hi. nice. I really wanted kubuntu to be the best damn kde distro out there.
[10:19] <Kurdistan> apoi, I know chakra/arch use it, also kubuntu based netrunner. 
[10:20] <apol_> :)
[10:20] <apol_> well, i have to go
[10:20] <apol_> later!
[10:20] <Kurdistan> http://packages.netrunner-os.com/pool/main/k/kde-gtk-config/
[10:20] <Riddell> apol_: yes we can use debian packages
[10:20] <Riddell> but feature freeze is next week
[10:21] <apachelogger> '.'
[10:21] <apachelogger> (Dot.) In the default mode, this matches any character except a newline. If the DOTALL flag has been specified, this matches any character including a newline.
[10:21] <apachelogger> who makes up stuff like that?!?!1
[10:21] <Kurdistan> Riddell, when I looked to there debian folder directery and wanted to build from source it did not really work.
[10:24] <Kurdistan> kde-config-grub2 is in the repo. it also nice tool have installed by default. 
[10:24] <Kurdistan> for me it is more important then cd size to be honest
[10:24] <Kurdistan> every tool that can help user to like kubuntu even more is good
[10:26] <Riddell> that needs more QA than we have capacity for
[10:26] <Kurdistan> Riddell, what is QA?
[10:27] <Tm_T> quality assurance
[10:28] <Tm_T> or in the other words: test, fix, test, fix, test, fix, test... and then find out there's whole group of cases you cannot test yourselves but have serious problems
[10:29] <Kurdistan> Tm_T, I understand. but if a package is in our repo it should be save
[10:29] <Tm_T> Kurdistan: every app that do exist on the repositories do help people to like kubuntu even more
[10:29] <Kurdistan> because why then have it in the repo?
[10:29] <debfx> Kurdistan: how does kde-gtk-config store the gtk{2,3} theme config?
[10:30] <Kurdistan> debfx, good to be honest. 
[10:30] <Kurdistan> debfx, even libreoffice, pavucontrol and stuff like that looks great now.
[10:30] <debfx> ok :)
[10:30] <Kurdistan> before libreoffice it was hard to read letters
[10:30] <debfx> Kurdistan: but where does it store the config?
[10:30] <Tm_T> Kurdistan: having in repositories doesn't mean it has gone through proper QA
[10:31] <debfx> we only want to set the gtk theme for kde sessions
[10:31] <Kurdistan> Tm_T, okey. I have used both for weeks without any problem.
[10:31] <Kurdistan> debfx, do you wanted I can take screenshot?
[10:31] <Tm_T> Kurdistan: good, so that's a start (:
[10:32] <Kurdistan> Tm_T, it have helped people I have helped in swedish ubuntu loco
[10:33] <debfx> Kurdistan: no, I'm interested into which file it writes the gtk config
[10:34] <Kurdistan> kde-gtk-config settings look like this: http://imgur.com/GylUW
[10:34] <Kurdistan> debfx, https://projects.kde.org/projects/playground/base/kde-gtk-config
[10:37] <debfx> ok, so it writes to ~/gtk-3.0/settings.ini
[10:38] <debfx> that approach won't work unless apachelogger proposes a patch for gtk3 so it reads from a different config file
[10:39] <Kurdistan> debfx, are you sure?
[10:40] <Kurdistan> for me it is .gtkrc-2.0/.gtkrc-2.0-kde4
[10:40] <Kurdistan> does are related to kde-gtk-config
[10:40] <debfx> yeah for gtk2 it isn't a problem
[10:41] <Kurdistan> ~/.config/gtk-3.0  <<--- debfx 
[10:42] <Kurdistan> debfx, is there any problem if it is in .config directery?
[10:43] <debfx> Kurdistan: no, but it's a problem that it sets the gtk3 theme for all sessions
[10:43] <Kurdistan> debfx, and it should not?
[10:44] <Kurdistan> I do not se the harm or problem with it
[10:44] <debfx> Kurdistan: it's bad if you use kde and another DE in parallel (xfce, gnome, ...)
[10:45] <Kurdistan> debfx, I okey. I am only using one DE, maybe thats the reason I have not seen any problem with it.
[10:48] <Kurdistan> debfx, how common is it if a person wants to run more then one DE if he/she uses Kubuntu?
[10:50] <debfx> Kurdistan: I don't know but it's something that we have supported so far and I wouldn't want to drop it
[10:51] <Kurdistan> debfx, okey, we other words it will be impossible to get kde-gtk-config installed by default. can we atleast have it the repo?
[10:58] <apachelogger> debfx: I do not think we should waste time on making 1% get better GTK theming
[10:59] <Kurdistan> apachelogger, then kubuntu should remove libreoffice by default.
[10:59] <apachelogger> particularly since they will not have it because GTK3 is not particularly cross desktop
[10:59] <Kurdistan> because it looks bad in kubuntu
[11:00] <apachelogger> I do not see why we should spend time on workaround around GTK dev's inability to consider cross desktop envrionments
[11:00] <apachelogger> if they do not care, we should not care all that much either TBH
[11:00] <Kurdistan> apachelogger, I understand you, but then again kubuntu suffers if they have gtk stuff installed and it looks bad.
[11:01] <Kurdistan> it is impossible to read letters in libreoffice with kubuntu
[11:01] <apachelogger> screenshot
[11:01] <Kurdistan> black against black looks ugly
[11:01] <Kurdistan> apachelogger, I have fixed it, so I do not need it.
[11:02] <apachelogger> I want a screenshot of the issue
[11:02] <debfx> LO looks fine with the default color scheme
[11:03] <Kurdistan> debfx, have your mouse over example "save" and you will notice you can not read save by default in kubuntu.
[11:03] <Kurdistan> it looks bad.
[11:04] <Kurdistan> debfx, I can not take screenshot on that.
[11:05] <Kurdistan> debfx, http://pavel.frimix.se/wp-content/uploads/2011/08/Markering_006.png  it looks like the dark in that picture on the toolbar.
[11:07] <apachelogger> that is hardly a reason to remove the one and only office suite?!!
[11:08] <debfx> Kurdistan: works fine for me http://imgbin.org/images/6715.png
[11:09] <Kurdistan> debfx, it is not the text you write that is the main problem.
[11:10] <Kurdistan> have your mouse over toolbar
[11:10] <Kurdistan> over save and you should not be able to read
[11:10] <Kurdistan> install pavucontrol same there
[11:12] <Kurdistan> but you guys decide, I know for sure that this is something that effects a lot of user.
[11:12] <debfx> aha so you are talking about unthemed gtk?
[11:12] <Kurdistan> I am active in support session in loco
[11:13] <Kurdistan> debfx, yes.
[11:14] <debfx> Kurdistan: no one is arguing for having unthemed gtk
[11:14] <Kurdistan> kde-gtk-config fix the problem but again you guys decide.
[11:15] <Kurdistan> I know the problem does not existed in mandriva/pclinuxos
[11:15] <Kurdistan> so they are not effected but kubuntu users are
[11:16] <debfx> it fixes a problem but introduces another so I think we should first try to get xsettings-kde working
[11:17] <Kurdistan> debfx, it there is another fix I am glad. my wish is that it will be fixed.
[11:17] <Kurdistan> what will fix it does not matter for me
[11:23] <Kurdistan> debfx, I hope you are not offended. I only wanted things to just work for user.
[11:24] <Kurdistan> then my work :) with support kubuntu/ubuntu in swedish loco will be easier.
[11:25] <yofel> debfx: with xsettings-kde and the patch from fedore, it doesn't do a thing on my thinkpad(64bit) which might be due to my gtk settings being a mess. On my eeePC (32bit) it crashes at a place where it shouldn't crash (except if it's a thread issue)
[11:26] <Kurdistan> yofel, you mean fedora patches fix it for you?
[11:26] <yofel> no, they break it
[11:26] <yofel> but without them it doesn't do what we want either
[11:26] <Kurdistan> yofel, maybe we should look what mandriva and pclinuxos have done
[11:26] <debfx> Kurdistan: don't worry, I'm not offended :)
[11:26] <debfx> yofel: with the latest xsettigns-kde version?
[11:27] <Kurdistan> yofel, the problem is not presented there.
[11:27] <yofel> with 0.12.3 or whatever latest I could find was
[11:28] <yofel> debfx: package is here if you want to give it a try: https://launchpad.net/~yofel/+archive/ppa/+packages
[11:29] <Kurdistan> again maybe we should look for xsettings-kde with mandriva/pclinuxos. 
[11:29] <Kurdistan> if thats the best solution
[11:31] <debfx> yofel: I think you have the old version of the patch
[11:32] <debfx> "fix use-after-free bug in my patch" so that could explain the crashes :)
[11:32] <yofel> talk about me being tired -.-
[11:33] <yofel> I'll fix that up later
[11:33] <yofel> thanks
[11:34] <Kurdistan> debfx, the patch fix the xsetting-kde for you?
[11:35] <debfx> haven't tried yet
[11:36] <debfx> eww that package uses cdbs
[11:36] <Kurdistan> debfx, okey. if it works then we do not need a package outside the repo :).
[11:45] <yofel> we'll still need a MIR for xsettings-kde then
[11:55] <debfx> yofel: I've updated the package: http://people.ubuntu.com/~debfx/xsettings-kde.debdiff
[11:55] <debfx> seems to work fine
[12:04] <yofel> doesn't work on my thinkpad, but as I said, my gtk setup is broken here
[12:04] <yofel> (it uses oxygen-gtk whether I have xsettings running or not)
[12:06] <debfx> yofel: rm ~/.config/gtk-3.0/settings.ini doesn't work?
[12:07] <yofel> that's gone already, including any gconf/dconf/gsettings config files that I could fine. Maybe I missed something
[12:07] <yofel> s/fine/find/
[12:07] <kubotu> yofel meant: "that's gone already, including any gconf/dconf/gsettings config files that I could find. Maybe I missed something"
[12:09] <yofel> I'll try this on my eeePC once the package built in my ppa, should work there
[12:10] <debfx> ok, I've filed a MIr for oxygen-gtk3
[12:58] <Riddell> debfx: if it doesn't get in by early next week we'll need to poke people and worst case pre-promote it
[13:13] <BluesKaj> hiyas all
[13:53] <Riddell> skaet: I'm off ill and unlikely to make the meeting later
[13:55] <apachelogger> Riddell: when is the meeting, shall I attend instead or do we have nothing worth mention anyway?
[14:01] <Riddell> apachelogger: oh the release team meeting?  if you can stay online for an hour during it yes that would be good
[14:02] <Riddell> it's in two hours (or is it 2.5 hours?)
[14:02] <Riddell> mention we haven't done anything much useful, telepathy, rekonq, owncloud, oxygen-gtk3 still to be done before FF
[14:02] <apachelogger> kk
[14:15] <apachelogger> can someone pleaes fix bug 810529 before FF
[14:19] <Kurdistan> apachelogger, is FF, firefox?
[14:44] <yofel> Kurdistan: Feature Freeze
[14:52]  * apachelogger would totally love to have jira as BTS
[16:01] <ScottK> apachelogger: release meeting is on.
[16:02] <yofel> debfx: new xsettings-kde works, but only at login. If I want to change the gtk3 theme I need to change it any logout 
[16:05] <yofel> *and logout
[16:37] <debfx> yofel: we could restart xsettings-kde in kcm-gtk ;)
[16:38] <yofel> true, that helps..
[16:46] <yofel> folks, welcome grmls, a future potential iso tester
[16:46] <grmls> hi
[16:47] <grmls> thx for welcome yofel ;)
[16:58] <BluesKaj> hi grmls
[16:59] <grmls> hi BluesKaj 
[17:01] <apachelogger> welcome grmls
[17:01] <apachelogger> yofel: you better be finishing the gtk3 stuff, otherwise you will have to explain at the next release meeting why we need an ffe for that stuff
[17:01] <grmls> thx apachelogger 
[17:02] <apachelogger> yofel: incidentially enough you will also have to take part for kubuntu :P
[17:02] <yofel> acknowledged
[17:05] <debfx> yofel: I guess we should add a comment to kcm-gtk saying that you need to logout for settings to take effect
[17:06] <yofel> or we actually try to do what you said, but I'll need to read up on how to kill and re-launch a process from Qt then
[17:06] <yofel> worst case logging out kills it anyway
[17:07]  * yofel looks at marble patches on packagers
[17:40] <debfx> yofel: xsettings-kde reloads its config when it receives an kipc x11 event
[17:40] <debfx> which is apparently the way settings changes were communicated in kde3
[17:44] <debfx> yofel: http://people.ubuntu.com/~debfx/kcm-gtk-kipc.debdiff
[17:44] <debfx> seems to work fine for me
[17:45] <yofel> reading
[17:46] <yofel> that's it? :O
[17:46]  * yofel tries
[17:49] <debfx> good old kde3 technology ;)
[17:49] <yofel> hehe
[18:02]  * apachelogger is totally looking forward to 2012, when we will switch to wayland
[18:04] <yofel> debfx: shipit (kcm-gtk and xsettings-kde)
[18:06] <yofel> apachelogger: does it already make coffee for me?
[18:08] <yofel> hm
[18:08] <yofel> just wondering: could we put a checkbox in ubiquity below the propiertary one that installs our -extra packages that don't fit on the CD?
[18:23] <BluesKaj> rekonq is constantly refreshing on my setup , it wont hold a zoom that i need for reading fonts on this large monitor 
[18:28] <debfx> yofel: we should add a kconf update script to remove ~/.kde/env/gtk2-default-theme.rc.sh
[18:29] <yofel> does it matter? it's not like it breaks anything. But we can drop the copy command for it from startkde at least
[18:30] <yofel> ah, and we need to add an explicit "gtk-theme-name=oxygen-gtk" to the default gtkrc
[18:33] <debfx> hm yeah, I guess it doesn't hurt setting the GTKRC variable
[18:34] <yofel> debfx: ideally xsettings-kde should read $GTK2_RC_FILE anyway, but I don't feel like messing with that even more
[18:39] <CIA-42> [lp:~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-default-settings/kubuntu-default-settings] Philip Muškovac * 467 * (debian/changelog usr-share/dot-gtkrc-2.0-kde4) set gtk-theme-name in dot-gtkrc-2.0-kde4 so xsettings-kde picks it up
[18:41] <debfx> how do we currently set oxygen as the default theme?
[18:41] <yofel> startkde copies the initial rc file from kubuntu-default-settings if it's not there
[18:42] <yofel> hm, which means for update we would need a script that makes sure gtk-theme-name=  is in there
[18:42] <debfx> yeah but that doesn't actually set the theme name?
[18:42] <yofel> *updates
[18:42] <yofel> well, the default file has:
[18:42] <yofel> include "/usr/share/themes/oxygen-gtk/gtk-2.0/gtkrc"
[18:44] <debfx> aha, I guess 'engine "oxygen-gtk"' does that
[19:01] <apachelogger> debfx: bug 851953
[19:01] <apachelogger> ScottK: can haz jira for bts? :(
[19:04] <ejat> apachelogger: https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=293264 
[19:04] <ejat> is it solve ? 
[19:04] <apachelogger> dunno
[19:04] <debfx> apachelogger: what about that bug?
[19:04] <apachelogger> debfx: can we close them rubbish as all should be rebuilt for sure
[19:05] <apachelogger> also you should answer that question in the last comment or something
[19:05] <ejat> im having the same issue with the bug .. 
[19:05] <apachelogger> ejat: on 11.10?
[19:05] <ejat> 12.04
[19:06]  * apachelogger is not on 12.04
[19:06] <ejat> :(
[19:06] <apachelogger> works for me on 11.10
[19:06] <apachelogger> I guess that something in the dbusmenu stuff changed
[19:06] <apachelogger> ejat: agateau is the guy to talk to
[19:06]  * ejat ping agateau
[19:06] <yofel> currently we remove gtk2-default-theme.rc.sh when k-d-s is missing, as that's obsolete now, should we remove the rc file itself?
[19:06] <yofel> or make xsettings-kde use the env var after all
[19:07] <debfx> apachelogger: I doubt all those packages have been rebuilt and we still need to figure out how to translate desktop files for projects that don't use the KDE i18n infrastructure
[19:07] <debfx> yofel: I've uploaded xsettings-kde, could you file the MIR?
[19:07] <yofel> sure
[19:08] <apachelogger> debfx: so we should probably get cracking?
[19:08] <apachelogger> we = you
[19:15] <debfx> apachelogger: first we need to check what happens to launchpad translations once our packages are demoted
[19:32] <CIA-42> [lp:~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-packaging/kde-workspace] Philip Muškovac * 610 * debian/ (changelog patches/kubuntu_gtk2_engines_oxygen_config.diff) (log message trimmed)
[19:32] <CIA-42> * kubuntu_gtk2_engines_oxygen_config.diff: - set gtk-theme-name to the current
[19:32] <CIA-42> value if it's missing in gtkrc-2.0-kde4 - remove gtk2-default-theme.rc.sh on
[19:32] <yofel> someone review that ^
[19:36] <CIA-42> [lp:~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-default-settings/kubuntu-default-settings] Philip Muškovac * 468 * (usr-share/gtk2-default-theme.rc.sh debian/changelog) * Drop gtk2-default-theme.rc.sh, not needed anymore
[19:38] <debfx> yofel: you can simplify it a bit with: if grep -q gtk-theme-name $HOME/.gtkrc-2.0-kde4; then
[19:38] <debfx> instead of if [ -z "`grep gtk-theme-name ...
[19:38] <yofel> ah, thanks, didn't know about -q
[19:40] <CIA-42> [lp:~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-packaging/kde-workspace] Philip Muškovac * 611 * debian/patches/kubuntu_gtk2_engines_oxygen_config.diff use a simplier grep query
[19:41] <debfx> the gtk-theme-name setting could break for custom gtkrc files (e.g. multiple include statements)
[19:42] <debfx> maybe we should just check if "/usr/share/themes/oxygen-gtk/gtk-2.0/gtkrc" is included and then set the theme to oxygen-gtk
[19:44] <yofel> hm, should one include more than one gtkrc?
[19:44] <yofel> but agreed that the check is too lax
[19:47] <debfx> no, but you can write whatever you want to that file
[19:48] <jussi> hrm, are we aware that Libre office only shows a generic icon in the taskbar in precise? 
[19:48] <yofel> debfx: how about this? looks ugly but works for me:
[19:48] <yofel> echo "\ngtk-theme-name=\"`grep \"include \\\"/usr/share/themes/.*/gtk-2.0/gtkrc\\\"\" $HOME/.gtkrc-2.0-kde4 | c    ut -d/ -f5`\"" >> $HOME/.gtkrc-2.0-kde4
[19:48] <jussi> (ie. the X with the yellow/orange circle)
[19:49] <yofel> the .* is lax too though :/
[19:50] <ScottK> apachelogger: No jira for U.
[19:50] <debfx> splitting that up into multiple lines might be a good idea :)
[19:50] <yofel> heh
[19:50] <debfx> and the amount of character escaping is scary ^^
[19:51] <debfx> you could use [^/]+ instead of .*
[19:52] <yofel> now: http://paste.kde.org/263312
[19:52] <yofel> (untested)
[19:56] <yofel> the [^/]+ needs egrep
[20:00] <CIA-42> [lp:~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-packaging/kde-workspace] Philip Muškovac * 612 * debian/patches/kubuntu_gtk2_engines_oxygen_config.diff tighten the check on the gtkrc include
[20:25] <yofel> MIR filed for xsettings-kde
[20:46] <Darkwing> ScottK: ping
[20:46] <ScottK> Darkwing: pong
[21:21] <schnelle> guy, is anybody alowed to write to kubuntu-devel mailing list?
[21:21] <schnelle> *guys
[21:21] <schnelle> i mean can i (user) write to kubuntu-devel mailing list? 
[21:27] <Riddell> schnelle: yes, if it's about kubuntu development
[21:28] <Riddell> and if you're subscribed
[21:31] <schnelle> Riddell: ok thanks. I will write and explain everything. It is about this bug (look at my last comment) : https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/qt4-x11/+bug/911733
[21:33] <ejat> Riddell: https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=293264
[21:34] <ejat> resolved downstream mean in ubuntu ?
[21:34] <ejat> sorry kubuntu?
[21:44] <yofel> ejat: downstream means us, right
[21:45] <yofel> except that those packages are from gnumdk?
[21:45] <ejat> so its fixed? 
[21:46] <yofel> no idea?
[21:46] <yofel> I don't use it
[21:47] <yofel> ejat: the packages in the bug aren't from us though
[21:48] <yofel> 4.8.0b-11.10ubuntu1~gnumdk10 != 4:4.8.0b-0ubuntu1~oneiric1~ppa1
[21:48] <ejat> btw .. yofel r u in precise or still oneiric ?
[21:49] <yofel> right now I'm on precise
[21:49]  * ejat just want to know .. if i opening quassel for example .. there is no menu bar ? 
[21:49] <ejat> but some other apps got it .. 
[21:49] <yofel> my menu bar is there. in *quassel*
[21:50] <ejat> like kontact .. 
[21:50] <yofel> I don't use that widget
[21:50] <ejat> is it install by default ? 
[21:50] <ejat> since i remember .. i didnt install that widget .. so to so call "resolved" it .. by removing the widget ? 
[21:51] <yofel> I think it is
[21:51] <ejat> owh ok .. will try it shortly since i just logout and now in unity .. 
[21:51] <ejat> but .. if by installing that widget .. to triger the menu bar is by using krunner? 
[21:52]  * ejat ping agateau
[22:37] <CIA-42> [lp:~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-packaging/kde-workspace] Philip Muškovac * 613 * debian/patches/kubuntu_gtk2_engines_oxygen_config.diff the check needs to be inverted here