=== pleia2_ is now known as pleia2 === pocopina_ is now known as pocopina [08:08] good morning === gord_ is now known as gord === MacSlow is now known as MacSlow|afk === MacSlow|afk is now known as MacSlow === MacSlow is now known as MacSlow|lunch [13:55] hey kenvandine [13:55] morning [13:55] wow lot of feedback [13:56] On what etneg_ ? [13:56] oh gwibber logo [13:56] Ah, that ^_^ [13:58] etneg_, oh... i just noticed OMG picked it up :) [13:58] kenvandine: ye [13:58] lot oftrolling going on there [13:59] kenvandine: people are beginning to think the "logo" is the icon [13:59] i didnt do a version for the logo [13:59] heh [13:59] oops correction [13:59] :) [13:59] i didnt do a version for the icon [14:00] as an icon the logo would have to be brought down a bit,some elements removed [14:02] but thats pretty sweet, lot of feedback [14:03] kenvandine: based on what's going on now, do you want revisions or new concepts? [14:05] etneg_, it would be nice to also include icon versions based on the logo [14:05] yeh i'll do that now [14:06] as for revisions, if you want to update the existing concepts lets make them like 1.1 , 1.2, etc [14:06] so they can gather feedback separately from the original === MacSlow|lunch is now known as MacSlow [14:07] i didnt get you, sorry [14:07] i label it 1.1 and 1.2 and so on ? [14:09] yes [14:09] with separate space for feedback [14:10] etneg_, you can just post them right on the wiki page [14:10] ok [14:10] so put concept 1.1 under the feedback section of concept 1 and add a heading and empty bullet line for feedback [14:12] ok [14:13] What are the differences between the logo and the icon? =/ [14:15] well sometimes if the logo is "busy" you tone it down for the icon [14:15] icons are kept simpler [14:15] you just pull out the key elements that make up the logo for the icon and you're done [14:15] atleast that's what i usually do [14:16] True [14:17] But busy logo are wrong in the first place ;-) [14:18] However, sometimes/most of the time "logo's" include the name in a certain font [14:20] wordmark? [14:20] some use wordmarks and some dont [14:21] depends on the client's taste really [14:23] Wordmarks? [14:24] i really prefer not having the name in the logo [14:24] I've heard once that the Dutch were experts in the use of fonts etc back in the 1900's [14:24] kenvandine: really? [14:24] personally, i prefer logos that are recognizable without that [14:24] Indeed [14:24] etneg_, like on the website we would have the name in the header next to or below the logo [14:25] right [14:25] but the logo should represent the spirit of the app, not the name of the app [14:25] kenvandine; I agree [14:25] did you mean no text in the icon ? [14:25] Or company! [14:25] etneg_, yeah... no text in the icon for sure [14:25] but even for the logo [14:25] oh ok [14:25] don't make the name part of the logo [14:25] for the icon i just toned it up a bit [14:26] cool [14:26] kenvandine; depends on the situation I'd say [14:26] no text and the smiley glass faces are not visible there [14:26] I should reinstall this PC...or remove all the cruft from things I don't use [14:26] etneg_, personally i really love concept 1 [14:26] It's a bit slow [14:27] kenvandine: if you want to keep the logo without text, no issues there but just seeing a logo without a name on it is almostlike faceless [14:27] you know what i mean [14:27] if im someone who doesnt know nothing about gwibber, and im looking at a gwibber logo on some ref page along with twitter and the rest, it doesnt tell you [14:27] that is why in places like the header of a website you would put the name near it, for identity purposes [14:27] what if someone used the gwibber logo on their page? [14:28] without a name you cant tell [14:28] you're talking about using it on the gwibber.com page which is fine [14:28] in that case we should probably have a horizontal version with the name next to it [14:28] and some branding guidelines [14:28] for use [14:28] oh ye [14:29] i could remove the text and for those wanting to use it on their page or something, we could have one with the name on it i suppose? [14:30] have you seen the (RED) logo concepts?if you got the time, take a look at it [14:30] it's an interesting way to have people use your logo and incorporate their product logo into it wthout killing the aesthetics of the key product logo [14:32] etneg_; I'm not catching your drift? [14:33] http://www.joinred.com/red/#shopred [14:33] ^^ [14:33] key product logo (RED) [14:33] on that page other products trying to collaborate with it [14:34] (CocaCola)^red. Cocacola has kept their logo there and supports red but they key element there is still the red logo because of the curved brackets [14:35] so if i took " MrChrisDruif " and put it in a red bracket as ( MrChrisDruif )^red, it'll instantly hit me that you're part of the red foundation [14:36] Ghehe ^_^ [14:36] nice concept eh? [14:36] heh [14:37] Ah, and IT is for/against AIDS [14:37] ye [14:38] Awesome [14:39] the logo belongs to U2 [14:40] it's unlikely one of us could get away with that bracket + RED as a logo without someone suing our ass for some sort of trademark infringement [14:40] i bet he must have paid quite a sum to get by that, just my 2 cents assumption [14:44] etneg_; /s/red/blue ;-) [14:45] heh gl [14:45] jk [14:51] ok just uploaded 1.1 icon version [15:05] kenvandine: if you have another concept in mind i could do one now [15:05] something different to concept 1 or 2 [15:07] etneg_, nothing now... but if you have ideas :) [15:07] i do, but if you have one, i could work on that first [15:07] :D [15:07] but ok === daker_ is now known as daker === daker is now known as daker_ === s9iper1_ is now known as s9iper1 [21:00] kenvandine: ping [21:01] Hello [21:02] etneg_, pong [21:02] kenvandine: http://i41.tinypic.com/t0rhio.png [21:02] didnt put it on the wiki yet, but your thoughts [21:03] etneg_, sorry, i don't get the concept. a book with a page turned? [21:04] ye [21:04] it's nice looking, but i don't see it as being "social" [21:04] blogging as in writing down in a diary [21:05] oh the social part i didnt convey in this [21:05] etneg_, sorry... yeah concept is a bit of imho [21:06] what image size we should use for the wallpapers ? [21:07] kenvandine: ok [21:07] for the Precise Pangolin wallpaper submissions [21:07] do you want me to modify it to add social element [21:07] ? [21:08] or i could work on another concept [21:08] etneg_, something else [21:08] thx though [21:08] ok np [21:08] etneg_, i still love concept 1 :) [21:08] okLD [21:08] do you want to modify concept 1 ? [21:09] etneg_, it is up to you, if you want to take some of the feedback and make some revisions [21:09] that would be cool [21:09] well i did a revision for the icon part [21:09] removed the faces for the icon [21:09] i'll see what i can come up with [21:11] etneg_, thx [21:12] np [21:28] SirLinux`: aiming at 2650 x 1600 allows use on any common monitor [21:30] SirLinux`: you might want to take a look at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/Documentation/Backgrounds#Templates [21:37] kenvandine: http://i43.tinypic.com/mald1w.png [21:37] i havent colored it or prettified it, the concept ok? [22:35] kenvandine: ping [22:58] made it 1920x1080 [22:58] http://www.flickr.com/photos/33589237@N00/6853434887/in/pool-1860176@N24/lightbox/ [22:58] what is that? [22:58] using blender? [22:59] excuse me ? [23:00] What did you use to create that SirLinux` is what etneg_ meant [23:00] oh .. i used cinema 4d. [23:00] So a reference to the old colouring scheme? [23:01] yeah and a 3d logo :) [23:02] Ghehe [23:03] ah cinema 4d [23:04] like what 20 mins work i bet [23:04] if i had to vectorise that sucker, well atleast an hr [23:06] etneg_; "sucker" might not be a very friendly word for it, maybe you could try "piece of work" next time? ^_^ Just sayin' ^_^ [23:07] oh right ok [23:07] :D [23:07] ^_^ [23:07] just saying, vectorising that would be so time consuming [23:07] etneg_ well , kinda [23:07] ive been meaning to go into 3d as well [23:07] 20 - 30 minutes [23:07] atleast for some tasks [23:08] havent gotten my new machine yet, once it's here, either cinema4d or blender and the awesome zbrush = total awesomeness [23:13] ive heard some good stuff aboout cinema4d [23:14] yeah but you need good pc [23:14] this notebook i use for such works, is a i7 cpu with 4 gb ram ( sony vaio ) and is kinda slow while rendering [23:15] well the machine im building and i just orderered for the parts [23:16] is an i7 2600k, sli 580s with 3gb, and a nice cooling system, 16gb ram 1800, etc [23:16] i'll oc that and i should do fine [23:16] even if i didnt oc it, it'll do fine [23:17] rendering is tricky [23:17] gpu or cpu? [23:17] varries with each [23:17] i mean solidworks + GTX = poor performances [23:18] solidworks + quadro = major performance because of the drivers that are customised for solidworks [23:18] blender and a quadro? forget it, might as well stick with teh GTX [23:19] you have to understand, 5 yrs ago people did some awesome work in 3d without all this hardware, think about it... [23:20] so i wouldnt exactly count on a rock solid machine to produce quality work, might need some talent too:P [23:21] hmm [23:21] nice specs there [23:21] rendering : cpu [23:21] ah k [23:22] oh a laptop? [23:22] hehe [23:22] seriously get a workstation, it'll be less painful [23:22] or just a desktop [23:23] i have the new xps but you dont wanna heat those guys up, they'll cry for miles [23:23] i was thinkin to get a imac full speks [23:23] specs * [23:23] for that price? [23:23] why bother [23:24] build it dude [23:25] alrihg togtta jetfor a bit