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| Will123456 | hey guys. is there any project similar to OS X's autosave being worked on? | 01:35 |
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| htorque | hi all! if indicator-applications leaks memory, does this mean an application causes this or the indicator itself? | 01:56 |
| htorque | haven't had time to do any valgrind stuff, just monitored the indicators and indicator-applications leaked 30mb in just 3h of system idling. | 01:56 |
| kklimonda | htorque: I don't see how could application make another application leak memory - it looks like a bug in indicator-applications | 02:02 |
| htorque | kklimonda: i really have no clue how this all works together. ;-) well, will get a valgrind log of it and report a bug. | 02:05 |
| htorque | i just remembered a leak in the appmenu causing unity-panel-service to grow, so... | 02:06 |
| snadge | is anyone working on fglrx issue ? | 02:29 |
| snadge | i understand its closed source etc.. but amd gpus are quite popular | 02:30 |
| snadge | all the main compiz/unity devs must use nvidia like total fanbois or something ;) | 02:30 |
| kklimonda | hmm, is someone working on rhythmbox support for the music lenses? | 02:31 |
| kklimonda | snadge: pretty much all seasoned linux users avoid amd and fglrx in particular ;) | 02:32 |
| snadge | well.. that is true to an extent.. but as far as im aware, amd has significantly improved the situation | 02:33 |
| kklimonda | (but I'm sure that unity devs are working on fixing any issues that they are aware of) | 02:33 |
| kklimonda | sure, so I've heard | 02:33 |
| kklimonda | but old habits die hard :) | 02:33 |
| snadge | https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/compiz/+bug/770283 | 02:34 |
| ubot5 | Launchpad bug 770283 in fglrx-installer (Ubuntu) "[fglrx]title bar does not update on non-maximized windows" [Undecided,Confirmed] | 02:34 |
| snadge | this one sucks.. and has been an issue for quite a while now :P | 02:34 |
| snadge | if i use radeon driver.. which is terrible.. it doesnt have this problem | 02:34 |
| snadge | by terrible i mean.. cant play minecraft or oilrush at a decent framerate.. doesnt have accelerated video support etc | 02:35 |
| kklimonda | ah, I remember us going back to gtk-window-decorator for 11.10 | 02:35 |
| snadge | ahh i see its getting some attention from daniel and sam.. excellent | 02:36 |
| snadge | <3 ;P | 02:36 |
| snadge | apparently the problem used to exist in the open drivers.. intel/radeon etc.. some time ago (i've never seen proof of this) | 02:37 |
| snadge | but if someone were to point out the specific fix .. perhaps that knowledge would be useful in creating a workaround and/or notifying amd | 02:38 |
| snadge | lol | 02:49 |
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| tsdgeos | dyams|away: hi, could you merge shell again into your MultiMonitor-Shell, or prefer me to do it? | 08:48 |
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| dyams | tsdgeos: hi | 08:55 |
| tsdgeos | hi | 08:55 |
| dyams | tsdgeos: one sec | 08:56 |
| dyams | tsdgeos: i'll check it out | 08:56 |
| greyback | mornin' all | 08:57 |
| dyams | tsdgeos: All changes applied successfully. | 08:58 |
| tsdgeos | cool | 08:58 |
| tsdgeos | doh | 08:58 |
| tsdgeos | bzr in precise is broken | 08:58 |
| * tsdgeos reports a bug | 08:59 | |
| dyams | tsdgeos: Pushed up to revision 994 | 08:59 |
| * tsdgeos_ kicks tsdgeos | 09:08 | |
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| dyams | tsdgeos: https://code.launchpad.net/~unity-2d-team/unity-2d/MultiMonitor-Shell/+register-merge | 09:15 |
| tsdgeos | dyams: no, you've ben hit by the launchpad bug :D | 09:15 |
| dyams | tsdgeos: oops | 09:15 |
| tsdgeos | dyams: go back and forth and give me the url with the numer | 09:15 |
| tsdgeos | according to the devels the bug does not exist btw :D | 09:16 |
| tsdgeos | https://bugs.launchpad.net/launchpad/+bug/929422 | 09:16 |
| ubot5` | Launchpad bug 929422 in Launchpad itself "Fails to refresh the URL when making a merge request" [Undecided,Incomplete] | 09:16 |
| dyams | tsdgeos: :) here it is https://code.launchpad.net/~unity-2d-team/unity-2d/MultiMonitor-Shell/+merge/92428 | 09:16 |
| tsdgeos | dyams: you want to merge that into shell already? | 09:18 |
| dyams | tsdgeos: yes, that is the objective | 09:19 |
| tsdgeos | oki | 09:19 |
| tsdgeos | i think we don't want that | 09:19 |
| tsdgeos | shell has to die today | 09:19 |
| tsdgeos | and become trunk | 09:19 |
| tsdgeos | waiting for Florian to show up to finish the last bits for that | 09:20 |
| dyams | tsdgeos: makes sense | 09:22 |
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| tsdgeos | oki | 09:22 |
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| mgedmin | oh, hey, now I have _two_ xchat icons in my launcher, and both are shown as active | 09:36 |
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| htorque | sbte: hi! i let the system idle for seven hours and compiz gained less than the half what it used to gain (it's now ~1mb per hour). definitely an improvement! | 09:44 |
| sbte | htorque, if you could give me a new valgrind log of that that would be great ;) | 09:45 |
| sbte | I'm making one myself too | 09:45 |
| htorque | i'll first have to get one of the indicator-applications-service → 10mb/h :( | 09:46 |
| sbte | htorque, that's ok too | 09:46 |
| sbte | I want to fix ALL the leaks :P | 09:46 |
| htorque | sbte: that's going to be a tough weekend :P | 09:50 |
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| dyams | tsdgeos: hi | 09:59 |
| tsdgeos | hi | 09:59 |
| dyams | tsdgeos: how can we have screens one top of other? | 10:00 |
| tsdgeos | dyams: maybe my wording was not good enough | 10:00 |
| tsdgeos | i mean vertically aligned | 10:00 |
| greyback | I'm guessing he mean the bottom of screen 1 touches the top of screen 2 | 10:00 |
| tsdgeos | isntead of horizontally alligned | 10:00 |
| dyams | greyback: true | 10:01 |
| dyams | tsdgeos: well, pls read it as topLeft :) | 10:01 |
| tsdgeos | dyams: sure, then use the topLeft corner | 10:01 |
| tsdgeos | as i said :D | 10:01 |
| dyams | and ScreenInfo::TopLeft is not the same in this case | 10:01 |
| tsdgeos | we have that already | 10:01 |
| tsdgeos | it is | 10:01 |
| tsdgeos | and if it is not | 10:01 |
| tsdgeos | you'll have to tell me why we have two topLeft's and they return different stuff | 10:02 |
| tsdgeos | ok | 10:02 |
| tsdgeos | yours is RTL "aware" | 10:02 |
| tsdgeos | i'm not sure i want that | 10:02 |
| dyams | ScreenInfo has four ctors | 10:02 |
| tsdgeos | yes | 10:03 |
| dyams | so, we m_screen can be valid but corner could Invlid | 10:03 |
| tsdgeos | ok, i told that to saviq and he did not fix it | 10:04 |
| dyams | in this case, m_screen is the screen number while ScreenInfo::InvalidCorner | 10:04 |
| tsdgeos | dyams: fix screeninfo so corner is properly defined when you give it a screen | 10:04 |
| tsdgeos | in the constructor | 10:05 |
| dyams | while creating instance of ScreenInfo, we don't know the corner the screen belongs to | 10:08 |
| dyams | we can have 3*2 screens, no? | 10:09 |
| dyams | tsdgeos: moreover, isLeftMost is only to simplify the whole task | 10:11 |
| tsdgeos | dyams: sure, if it does not belong to a corner set corner to invalid | 10:12 |
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| didrocks | greyback: hey, how are you? | 11:54 |
| greyback | didrocks: could be better :) You? | 11:54 |
| didrocks | greyback: still on compiz, but fine :) | 11:55 |
| greyback | didrocks: what can I do for you? | 11:55 |
| didrocks | greyback: just a head's up, we are freezing on Monday (midday?) | 11:55 |
| didrocks | greyback: I think the removal of intellihide (even from the code) needs to be done at that time for aligning with -3d | 11:55 |
| greyback | didrocks: yep, is on my list for today. How long is the freeze expected? | 11:55 |
| didrocks | greyback: really depends on how things are going for both -2d and -3d | 11:56 |
| greyback | Remove intellihide from the code too? JohnLea said it can be kept as advanced option | 11:56 |
| didrocks | greyback: I hope we can release on thursday | 11:56 |
| didrocks | greyback: hum, it's been removed from an executive decision on 3d | 11:56 |
| greyback | didrocks: We'll have plenty of stuff to merge in next week | 11:57 |
| didrocks | greyback: features? | 11:57 |
| didrocks | (this release of for thursday: feature freeze) | 11:57 |
| greyback | didrocks: yeah. I'm working right up to FF 16th | 11:57 |
| didrocks | greyback: well, the 16th, it should be *in* ubuntu | 11:58 |
| didrocks | an that's why we have this freeze process to make a release | 11:58 |
| didrocks | greyback: can I discuss with you what's going in? | 11:58 |
| greyback | didrocks: sure. Mumble? | 11:59 |
| didrocks | yeah :) | 11:59 |
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| rye | Can I help with anything if I am experiencing bug #926385 at this moment? | 13:55 |
| ubot5` | Launchpad bug 926385 in unity (Ubuntu) "applications appear twice in windows switcher and launcher" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/926385 | 13:55 |
| mgedmin | heh, /me too! | 13:57 |
| mgedmin | thank you for mentioning the bug number, now I won't have to search ;) | 13:58 |
| rye | wow, now both kazam and shotwell "have" 2 windows | 13:58 |
| rye | dear things, please stop breaking, I was just trying to record a video of shotwel flickering during switching from preview to viewing the image | 13:59 |
| ppd | hi there. I just experienced something weird with unity/compiz on latest precise. Whenever I extend my desktop to a second monitor with nvidia twinview compiz displays a scrambled desktop for a few seconds and afterwards restores to correct behaviour. I do not experience this behaviour with e.g unity 2d. So my question is: Is this expected/acceptable behaviour for the binary driver as I somehow did not manage to find a bug/report re | 13:59 |
| ppd | lated to this while I can hardly be the first one to encounter this. (is the same on oneiric btw.) | 13:59 |
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| rye | let's see how it is on intel now... | 14:00 |
| rye | erm | 14:01 |
| rye | ppd, i experienced this every time on nVidia 8400G even in compiz/gnome | 14:02 |
| ppd | rye, but just with compiz or maybe mutter, right? have you tried with metacity/unity 2d? | 14:02 |
| rye | and the second thing is you can't move mouse pointer slowly between the screens because of push-to-reveal code kicking in even if launcher is always displayed | 14:03 |
| ppd | true thing. Next thing I don't get is why to display a launcher on every screen when it's already set to never hide. But that is maybe just taste | 14:04 |
| rye | ppd, i recall running compiz on that machine, not mutter. As for metacity - i am not sure. That machine's nVidia card fried itself due to poor cooling design | 14:05 |
| ppd | rye, I just tried. It seems related to compiz. Unity 2d pretty much instantly extends to the second monitor as one would expect | 14:06 |
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| rye | bug #930165 | 14:11 |
| ubot5` | Launchpad bug 930165 in unity (Ubuntu) "Unity launcher push-to-reveal code continues working in always-show - makes multimonitor navigation harder" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/930165 | 14:11 |
| ppd | seems not to be an issue with the intel driver and xrandr. Compiz extends with a pretty short delay and a clean black transition screen, no "pixel garbage" | 14:13 |
| htorque_ | hello all! i ran valgrind with the application indicator and got this leak: http://paste.ubuntu.com/836605/ | 14:47 |
| htorque_ | is it enough to report this snippet, because i forgot to install a couple of debug symbols, so the rest of the log isn't complete. :-/ | 14:47 |
| mhr3 | htorque_, sorry that doesn't really help much since it's mostly in slice allocator, running with G_SLICE=always-malloc G_DEBUG=gc-friendly might produce something more useful | 14:57 |
| mhr3 | still it does say that the variants from gdbus are leaking... | 14:57 |
| htorque_ | mhr3: i did run it that way (followed https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Valgrind) | 14:59 |
| mhr3 | htorque_, oh :( | 15:00 |
| htorque_ | mhr3: the next entry in size is just 304 bytes, so this one is really all i got. any way to produce something more useful for you guys? | 15:04 |
| mhr3 | htorque_, patching and compiling glib with systemtap support for gvariants and getting something useful from that? :) | 15:08 |
| mhr3 | did i mention it's a *bit* advanced? :) | 15:08 |
| htorque_ | sounds easy :P | 15:10 |
| mhall119 | didrocks: ping | 17:24 |
| didrocks | hey mhall119 | 17:32 |
| didrocks | sorry, was catching up on email | 17:32 |
| didrocks | emails* | 17:32 |
| mhall119 | didrocks: was just checking to see if you had time to work on the singlet template | 17:33 |
| didrocks | mhall119: I had to postpone that and I had to jump on trying to make a compiz release | 17:33 |
| didrocks | which took 2 days but is now ended | 17:33 |
| mhall119 | come on, is compiz really more important? | 17:33 |
| didrocks | mhall119: sure, it can't compare to quickly! :) | 17:34 |
| didrocks | we should make a windowmanager template :p | 17:34 |
| didrocks | I hope to get some start next week, like tuesday/wednesday | 17:34 |
| mhall119 | ok | 17:34 |
| didrocks | I just hanged the boiler plate to be generic | 17:34 |
| didrocks | (and fixed a bug in Quickly ;)) | 17:35 |
| mhall119 | someone please tell me we will be able to install new Dash lenses without restarting Unity before 12.04 is released | 18:43 |
| rye | <thisfred> oh joy, I minimized everything again by alt-tabbing into stoopid | 19:53 |
| rye | <thisfred> ACHIEVEMENT UNLOCKED: spent quality time unminimizing windows | 19:53 |
| mhall119 | or press super+d to unminimize everything in one shot | 19:54 |
| rye | mhall119, hm, does not seem to work, letter d is sent to window | 19:55 |
| rye | ctrl+alt+d | 19:55 |
| mhall119 | rye: super+d? | 19:56 |
| mhall119 | whatever the "show desktop" shortcut is, should unminimize everything | 19:56 |
| mhall119 | at least, it does for me | 19:56 |
| rye | yes, ctrl+alt+d, according to the unity hint overlay, maybe i am running with the older shortcut settings | 19:57 |
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| mhall119 | rye: how about a alt-tabbing to the desktop again, does that restore them all? | 20:11 |
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| Petko | guys (and gals) , I'd like to draw your attention to the communitys frustration with the removal of the dodge windows feature (discussed at lenght in ayatana) . The proposals are the following : | 20:44 |
| Petko | 1. Bring dodge back , so it's configurable through myUnity | 20:44 |
| Petko | 2.Replace auto-hide with dodge | 20:44 |
| Petko | (since it was made clear only two options are wanted) | 20:44 |
| Petko | is any of the developers willing to push this back in Unity ? | 20:45 |
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