[05:12] <Kilos> morning superfly and others
[05:13] <psydroid> morning Kilos
[05:14] <Kilos> hi psydroid 
[05:33] <Kilos> psydroid, tell us a bit about yourself. like what you do, what OS you use etc
[05:33] <Kilos> i see you are in the netherlands
[05:34] <psydroid> Kilos, yes, I am in the Netherlands
[05:34] <psydroid> I am a student here
[05:34] <Kilos> what are you studying?
[05:35] <psydroid> and	I use K/Ubuntu Linux
[05:35] <psydroid> applied physics and computer engineering
[05:35] <Kilos> ah you will fing a few kubuntu friends here
[05:36] <Kilos> are you interested in joining us once a week so learning LPI
[05:37] <Kilos> *find not fing
[05:38] <psydroid> I would be interested in that, but it depends when you are doing so
[05:38] <psydroid> I am fairly busy during the week
[05:38] <Kilos> at the moment tuesday nights at out 8pm
[05:39] <Kilos> here is the manual we are using
[05:39] <Kilos> Maaz, lpi manual
[05:39] <Maaz> http://www.linuxcertification.co.za/lpi-study-manual
[05:39] <psydroid> I think it helps that we're in the same timezone
[05:40] <Kilos> we use this channel #linux-studies
[05:40] <psydroid> thanks
[05:40] <psydroid> I'll join it
[05:41] <Kilos> we are looking to grow our group. you can also write an exam after
[05:44] <psydroid> I would like to do that
[05:45] <Kilos> aw i missed neil
[05:47] <Kilos> wb nlsthzn you well?
[05:48] <nlsthzn> Hi uncle Kilos , always well and there?
[05:48] <Kilos> we maintain ty nlsthzn 
[05:49] <nlsthzn> Cool... feels like blasphemy logging in here from Windows :p
[05:49] <Kilos> hahaha if you use xchat in winsucks it doesnt look so bad
[05:50] <Kilos> oh my you only got one desktop, that sucks
[05:51] <nlsthzn> Not really... I have to many systems to use all at once... I suck at multitasking (this is a new system just for gaming as the wife was hogging the old gaming rig)... my lappy running 12.04 is behind me but was getting annoying turning around the whole time :p
[05:51] <nlsthzn> I do miss global spell checking allready... windows can't do that yet :(
[05:51] <Kilos> lol
[05:52] <Kilos> speak to billy he will find a way to chrge for it
[05:52] <nlsthzn> Possibly
[05:53] <nlsthzn> ... and I suspect that after 30 days I will have to register to use xchat... just because this is windows :(
[05:53] <Kilos> no its free
[05:53] <Kilos> Maaz, xchat for windows
[05:53] <Maaz> Kilos: Huh?
[05:53] <Kilos> grrr
[05:53] <Kilos> Maaz, google xchat for windows
[05:54] <Maaz> Kilos: "X-Chat 2 for Windows" http://www.silverex.org/ :: "Download - X-Chat 2 for Windows" http://www.silverex.org/download/ :: "XChat for Windows" http://xchat.org/windows/ :: "XChat: Multiplatform Chat Program" http://xchat.org/ :: "XChat - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia" http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/XChat :: "XChat 2 Build Lineup for Windows" http://b0at.tx0.org/xchat/ :: "xchat-wdk - Google Code" http://code.google.com/p/xchat-wdk/ :
[05:54] <nlsthzn> it is free but they often like you to sign up in any case...
[05:54] <Kilos> i will ask ian when he comes on
[05:55] <nlsthzn> I am even going to be using a open source cross platform media player... funny how I find them to be superior to many propriatary offereings
[05:55] <Kilos> im a vlc fan
[05:55] <Kilos> can play anythinjg i have tried here
[05:56] <Kilos> copied videos from boets win7 and they play kiff
[05:56] <nlsthzn> I find the music managment side of it lacking... but no doubting the playing ability... when in doubt use vlc :)
[05:56] <Kilos> and dvs i copied to my external
[05:56] <Kilos> he he
[05:56] <Kilos> dvds
[05:56] <Kilos> 's
[05:56] <Kilos> eish hands and head working at different run levels
[05:57] <nlsthzn> lol....
[06:05] <nlsthzn> Wow... Google is scary... I have Chrome installed on another system (@ work)... just installed it here and every site I go to that I have logged into @ work is ready to log in here allready...
[06:05] <Kilos> wow no checks to see if you the same guy?
[06:09] <Kilos> went to gmail yesterday. quite a bit has changed there too
[06:09] <Kilos> better to just use evolution fo me
[06:11] <nlsthzn> Thing is this was on any site...
[06:11] <nlsthzn> my username and passwords where allready filled in...
[06:11] <Kilos> oh my
[06:11] <nlsthzn> I think I need to go check out some of my privacy settings :/
[06:12] <Kilos> whew
[06:12] <Kilos> lo bmg505 
[06:21] <Kilos> eish the master eagle is struggling
[06:23] <Kilos> is frobnicate
[06:23] <Kilos>  for you clever guys?
[06:38] <Kilos> hi chakkie 
[06:39] <chakkie> hi  kilos
[06:48] <Kilos> plustwo twice must be four
[06:48] <superfly> morning Kilos
[06:49] <Kilos> hi superfly 
[06:49] <Kilos> wb nlsthzn 
[06:51] <Kilos> oh my, peer doing his thing again
[06:52] <superfly> looks like it
[07:05] <Kilos> dag Kerbero[dsp] 
[07:08] <Kilos> wb cocooncrash 
[07:18] <Kilos> wb marcog 
[07:18] <Kilos> net splitting again
[07:18] <inetpro> good mornings
[07:18] <inetpro> and helo Kilos
[07:19] <Kilos> good morning inetpro  and how is goosie today
[07:19] <inetpro> heh, looks like we have some cell divisions taking place today
[07:20] <Guest22249> hey, I need help please... I have an apt-mirror server which has updated now, with the normal things and debian-installer, running 11.10. I want to net install my computers on the network using a USB, everything work 100%, but there is no ubuntu desktop, i have to ssh in and tasksel multiselect ubuntu-dekstop. How do i get it to install ubuntu desktop? currently using kickstart and preseed together, but it does not install ubuntu desktop. my prese
[07:20] <Guest22249>  ed.cfg tells it to install ubuntu-desktop
[07:22] <inetpro> hmm...
[07:22] <inetpro> been a long time since I did a net install, never did it on Ubuntu before
[07:22] <inetpro> those were the redhat days before fedora
[07:22] <armand-jhb> can i swear? Thats how bad it is
[07:22] <Kilos> does one have terminal access
[07:23] <armand-jhb> unfortunately not
[07:24] <inetpro> armand-jhb: I guess google is your friend
[07:24] <armand-jhb> the whole installation happens, but just not ubuntu-desktop, in ky kickstart file i told it to install ssh-server... so at the end i have to ssh in and tasksel ubuntu-desktop
[07:24]  * inetpro sadly can't help searching and spending time on it now even if it sounds like an interesting exercise
[07:24] <armand-jhb> i tried that.... my last resort was here
[07:25] <armand-jhb> it is quite useful, but hell! Its allot of making sure of things, moving this editing that an all of that
[07:25] <Kilos> http://www.ubuntugeek.com/how-to-install-gui-on-ubuntu-11-04-natty-server.html
[07:26] <Kilos> can that help you armand-jhb 
[07:27] <Kilos> inetpro, dont you get cli one servers?
[07:29] <armand-jhb> in other tutorials they said to use @ ubuntu-desktop, but just going to try ubuntu-desktop in my ks file
[07:29] <armand-jhb> kickstart fiel
[07:30] <Kilos> i know nothing about servers but without a terminal have no idea how one can do anything
[07:30] <inetpro> armand-jhb: when you figured it out please give us a short summary on how you did it
[07:30] <armand-jhb> will do
[07:31]  * inetpro unfortunately has some work to do
[07:31] <armand-jhb> cool
[07:33] <nlsthzn> oohh... freenode got ddos'ed silly script kiddies
[07:33] <Kilos> eish
[07:34] <nuvolari> o/ mornings
[07:35] <Kilos> lol new face
[07:35] <Kilos> lo nuvolari 
[07:35] <nuvolari> lo oom Kilos 
[07:36] <superfly> armand-jhb: there 's an ubuntu-desktop package... if you can set your kickstart script to install ssh-server, why can't you tell it to install ubuntu-desktop?
[07:43] <Kilos> wb nlsthzn 
[07:44] <Kilos> hi abantu 
[07:47] <nlsthzn_> I wonder if it is netsplits or my connection causing me to be on and off :/
[07:48] <Kilos> christel said there are attacks nlsthzn 
[07:48] <Kilos> didnt you see the message
[07:48] <Tonberry> silly scriptkitties
[07:50] <superfly__> eish
[07:50] <Kilos> hi tnt
[07:50] <nlsthzn_> I saw the message, was wondering if that was my reason for issues
[07:50] <Kilos> things bad again today superfly__ 
[07:51] <Kilos> with a tail
[07:51] <superfly__> yeah, look at my tail!
[07:51] <Kilos> yeah nlsthzn when they have them dos attacks everything crashes
[07:51]  * nlsthzn_ will be offline then until the script kiddies are nuked...
[07:51] <Kilos> oh my he missed that
[07:51] <inetpro_> eish
[07:52] <Kilos> hehe at least i dont get tailed then i would have to look in notes to see how to fix it
[07:53] <Kilos> all that ghost stuff
[07:54] <inetpro> Kilos: you don't like ghost stories?
[07:54] <Kilos> ha ha ha
[07:55] <Kilos> no man its the effort trying to find where i wrote down how to fix it
[07:55] <Kilos> easier to go off and wait for timeout
[07:55] <Kilos> 245secs
[07:58] <armand-jhb> see, i can do that.... thanks, but i thought only tasksel can do that.......
[07:58] <Kilos> question when mavericks support ends in 2 months does that mean one can no longer do sudo apt-get update for a new install
[08:01] <Kilos> thats the important part
[08:01] <Kilos> if everything is rsynced
[08:24] <superfly__> armand-jhb: tasksel is for "tasks" - but tasks are not packages. fortunately there seems to be an "ssh-server" package, and I know there's an ubuntu-desktop package
[08:24] <armand-jhb> it worked! just finished it now
[08:25] <armand-jhb> anyone want the specs of what the little trip was.... i can give you my documentation....
[08:25] <superfly> armand-jhb: have you got a blog?
[08:25] <superfly> blogs are great for stuff like that
[08:26] <armand-jhb> no... i dont.... but maybe i should try invest in that....
[08:26] <armand-jhb> hehehehe
[08:27] <superfly> get a wordpress.com or blogspot.com blog
[08:45] <Kilos> eish peer got me looks like
[08:45] <Kilos> and goosie
[08:45] <Kilos> hehe
[08:45] <Kilos> Maaz, coffee on
[08:45]  * Maaz puts the kettle on
[08:46] <Kilos> morning maiatoday 
[09:14] <Kerbero> o0
[09:14] <Kerbero> weird dat al my irc clients nou fail
[09:19] <Kerbero_timeout> test
[09:21] <inetpro> armand-jhb: if it boils down to it even a plain text pastebin summary at http://paste.ubuntu.com/ will do
[09:35] <inetpro_> yikes!
[11:51] <Kilos> Maaz, coffee on
[11:51]  * Maaz flips the salt-timer
[11:52]  * Kilos thinks coffe and a peanut butter sarmie will go down well
[11:54] <Kilos> Maaz, ty for nlsthzn 
[11:54] <Maaz> Kilos: Huh?
[11:54] <Kilos> eish
[11:55] <Kilos> Maaz, tea for nlsthzn 
[11:55] <Maaz> Come on Neelsie bring your cup with the tea bag in
[11:55] <nlsthzn> lol
[11:55] <Maaz> Coffee's ready for Kilos!
[11:55] <Kilos> Maaz, ty
[11:55] <Maaz> You are welcome Kilos
[12:18] <nuvolari> lo oom Kilos 
[12:19] <nuvolari> o/
[12:19] <Kilos> lo nuvolari 
[12:39] <Kilos> ill be back tonight
[12:39] <Kilos> work hard guys
[15:48] <armand-jhb> go check out armandeg.blogspot.com
[15:53] <Kilos> nice job armand-jhb 
[15:53] <Kilos> dont be scarce now
[15:53] <Kilos> become part of this community
[15:55] <Kilos> Maaz, lpi manual
[15:55] <Maaz> http://www.linuxcertification.co.za/lpi-study-manual
[15:56] <Kilos> armand-jhb, **
[15:56] <Kilos> grrr ^^
[16:00] <Kilos> hi dLimit 
[16:01] <dLimit> Sup Kilos 
[16:02] <Kilos> quiet mostly
[16:03] <dLimit> Nice eh?
[16:03] <Kilos> are you interested in doing the LPI course that kbmonkey is doing
[16:05] <nuvolari> booyah! a productive day behind the back
[16:05] <nuvolari> hometime
[16:05] <nuvolari> o/
[16:05] <dLimit> Well I'm currently doing Linux+ but so I don't know if LPI would make more difference.
[16:05] <dLimit> Hi nuvolari 
[16:05] <Kilos> go safe nuvolari 
[16:08] <dLimit> Bye Kilos 
 hallo oom kilos
[16:18] <Kilos> hi tnt_ 
[16:19] <tnt_> how goes?
[16:19] <Kilos> well ty and you tnt_ 
 almost time for my braai to start
[16:21] <Kilos> yay
[16:21] <Kilos> why you got this mixed up nick
 im on a friend's (tnt) pc
[16:23] <Kilos> aha
[16:26] <Kilos> clever kid this armand, he uses xchat
[16:32] <manexx> hie all, any cpt ladies? 
[16:33] <Kilos> grrrr
[17:37] <Kilos> hi drubin you well?
[17:46] <zeref> it's friday :-) :-) :-) :-)
[17:48] <kbmonkey> tgif!
[17:54] <Kilos> yo kbmonkey you poegaai lad
[17:55] <Kilos> is it hard laying macadam
[17:56] <kbmonkey> Kilos!
[17:56] <kbmonkey> why? are laying roads Kilos? :)
[17:57] <Kilos> you said thats what you gonna be doing man 
[17:57] <Kilos> got 2 more that wanna join lpi
[17:57] <kbmonkey> good! :)
[17:58] <kbmonkey> I wil need the weekend to catch up with the work
[17:58] <Kilos> that section 101 is 5 mins for you guys
[17:59] <Kilos> but i still doff,  are you starting with a clean hdd and a centos live cd
[17:59] <Kilos> because there lots on partitioning and that comes before installing
[18:01] <kbmonkey> kvm, it runs a virtual computer in a window. I use that
[18:01] <kbmonkey> it thinks it's a computer, but its really not. it doesn't know, he he
[18:02] <Kilos> hehe
[18:02] <kbmonkey> and you?
[18:02] <Kilos> do you understand what i am trying to say
[18:03] <kbmonkey> yes, that we need to partition disks
[18:03] <Kilos> and me what?
[18:04] <Kilos> ya this course is aimed at someone already using linux and then teaching how to fix another one
[18:05] <Kilos> doesnt centos have a live cd that does the partitioning part and gives you the option to make your own
[18:05] <kbmonkey> do you have a spare pc/drive/something to test the partitioning?
[18:06] <Kilos> have the p3 and/or can use its 6g drive as a second drive here
[18:07] <Kilos> but that drive hass xp on so i can find smses on my usb modem
[18:07] <kbmonkey> well, what are you going to partition? a spare drive?
[18:07] <kbmonkey> because if you partition your current drive, you will lose all your data!
[18:08] <Kilos> lol my drive i parted to /, /boot, /home and /storage
[18:08] <Kilos> but from the live cd not cli
[18:09] <kbmonkey> yes centos uses a text installer. it has a 'live' mode, but you install through a text mode
[18:10] <Kilos> aha
[18:10] <kbmonkey> its not any harder as the GUI, the steps are quite clear and understandable
[18:10] <Kilos> now i getting to savvy
[18:10] <kbmonkey> i wonder how large the kvm is
[18:10] <Kilos> yes they look pretty basic cli usage
[18:10] <kbmonkey> i know virtualbox is quite big
[18:11] <kbmonkey> hey, I think you can even install it onto a usb drive, like it was a hard drive.
[18:11] <kbmonkey> must find out...
[18:11] <Kilos> my pc dont run virtual, tried and it didnt work and the fly said its too slow
[18:11] <kbmonkey> a P3? hmm, thats not too bad
[18:12] <Kilos> then i will have to run those commands from live cd
[18:12] <Kilos> in cli
[18:13] <kbmonkey> mine was also slow. 
[18:13] <Kilos> but i member i had to mount the drive from livecd once
[18:13] <kbmonkey> I enabled sometthing to fix it
[18:13] <Kilos> lol
[18:14] <Kilos> and you need lotsa ram to virtual
[18:14] <kbmonkey> how much do you have?
[18:15] <Kilos> 640m
[18:18] <kbmonkey> tight
[18:19] <kbmonkey> the 6G has XP you say. I take you use it as well
[18:19] <Kilos> yeah it wouldnt open the virtual drive
[18:20] <Kilos> no its just to check smses on the modem so they dont subscribe me again and steal my airtime
[18:21] <Kilos> i also use the 6g drive to test other releases
[18:21] <kbmonkey> so if you can check your sms's without XP, you won't need it?
[18:21] <Kilos> yeah
[18:21] <kbmonkey> I check and load my sim airtime. must be a way to read texts too.
[18:22] <Kilos> i dunno how to read whats on the modem with ubuntu
[18:22] <Kilos> i can see the storage  but cant open it
[18:23] <kbmonkey> maybe some programmetjie can read the text for you
[18:23] <Kilos> if i go places then computer i see the storage
[18:23] <Kilos> you missed the new guy here today
[18:24] <Kilos> he been doing linux 7 months
[18:24] <Kilos> he is joining lpi
[18:25] <Kilos> quite a clever kid
[18:26] <kbmonkey> ah, you are now a mentor then! he he ;D
[18:27] <Kilos> lol no man i just collect them you gotta teach them
[18:27] <Kilos> here is his blog of what he did today
[18:27] <Kilos> armandeg.blogspot.com
[18:27] <Kilos> he had a prob with a server
[18:28] <Kilos> he didnt even have a blog, the fly got him to start one
[18:32] <kbmonkey> its a good way to jot down what you learn
[18:33] <Kilos> what kinda tool will read a usb modems storage area
[18:33] <Kilos> tried text editor file goodie etc
[18:34] <kbmonkey> I suspect to read that data you need a program
[18:34] <Kilos> wait i ask maaz
[18:35] <Kilos> he dunno gives windows links but the modem installs on windows
[18:35] <kbmonkey> that issues special commands to get the data out
[18:37] <Kilos> i wonder if i can install the modem on wine
[18:38] <Kilos> but wine crashed me once so i purged it
[18:38] <kbmonkey> found something
[18:38] <kbmonkey> no dont do wine
[18:38] <Kilos> ah
[18:38] <kbmonkey> wine is good to interpret software, but not that good the interface hardware
[18:41] <kbmonkey> http://www.techytalk.info/send-receive-sms-using-gsm-modem-phone-ubuntu/
[18:41] <Kilos> sec i go see
[18:47] <Kilos> will try that morrow. i have had gammu and wammu before but my modem is an arab modem so didnt get it working that way
[18:47] <Kilos> maybe this time i will find it in their modem refs
[18:50] <kbmonkey> looking at those connection strings, you can try some of the common ones
[18:50] <kbmonkey> also try find what hardware it is
[18:51] <kbmonkey> for example, vodacome modems are not made by them. huawei makes them and vodacom just rebrands them. -- for example
[18:51] <kbmonkey> perhaps a lsusb -v will give details on the hardware
[18:52] <Kilos> it is a alcatel modem with stc the provider
[18:56] <Kilos> holy moly all that in that little modem
[18:57] <Kilos> http://slexy.org/view/s21QTFKNcq
[19:05] <kbmonkey> there is alcatel in that phone list
[19:05] <Kilos> kbmonkey, dont worry bout this, you had a long day/week. rest
[19:06] <kbmonkey> well im going now anyway :)
[19:06] <kbmonkey> being summoned
[19:06] <Kilos> ok sleep tight laddy
[19:06] <Kilos> ty for the help
[19:06] <kbmonkey> yw Kilos 
[19:06] <Kilos> i go crash too
[19:06] <kbmonkey> enjoy you sleep!
[19:06] <Kilos> night everyone
[19:06] <Kilos> tywill do
[22:09] <nuvolari> fp