[00:00] <ActionParsnip> tigrang: does the system have a make and model?
[00:00] <sovereign> I have a .tar.gz file that doesn't open as a setup file but rather as a text file what could be the cause
[00:00] <tigrang> ActionParsnip: Samsung RV515
[00:00] <ActionParsnip> tigrang: why was that not in your initial question....
[00:00] <tigrang> sorry
[00:01] <ActionParsnip> sovereign: you can extract it with:   tar zxvf filename
[00:01] <ActionParsnip> sovereign: or you can use unp
[00:01] <Jordan_U> Gskellig: Keep in mind that most .dmg files are not intended to be burned to a disk. What are you actually trying to burn?
[00:01] <Gskellig> Jordan_U, extracting it would be fine too
[00:02] <sovereign> ActionParsnip, do you mean in a terminal?
[00:02] <Gskellig> dmg2img is also failing, ERROR: Inflation failed
[00:02] <ActionParsnip> sovereign: its one way
[00:03] <helo1> ActionParsnip: there are echos in the script
[00:03] <helo1> ActionParsnip: I don't see the output on my screen (do echos show in the ssh session when the script is initiated by cron??)
[00:04] <sovereign> ActionParsnip,  I just dont understand what you mean by zxvf filename
[00:05] <Jordan_U> Gskellig: Can you pastebin the output of "file /path/to/filename.dmg"?
[00:05] <ActionParsnip> sovereign: its the cli way to extract tar.gz file
[00:05] <pinkfloyd> nixi
[00:05] <Gskellig> xar archive - version 1
[00:06] <sovereign> Action thanks reading now\
[00:06] <ActionParsnip> sovereign: or use right click menu if you have a desktop gui
[00:06] <ActionParsnip> helo1: use notify-osd
[00:07] <helo1> ActionParsnip: what is that and how
[00:07] <ActionParsnip> helo1: its what makes the desktop notifications
[00:07] <helo1> this is a server installation so there is no gui
[00:07] <sovereign> ActionParsnip, nothingin the right click menu worked to open the file
[00:08] <helo1> And the machine has no monitor
[00:08] <helo1> ActionParsnip: I just ssh into it (the physical machine is 200 miles away)
[00:09] <ActionParsnip> helo1: I see, no point with notify osd then ;)
[00:09] <sovereign> tar -zxvf truecrypt.tar.gz resulted in an error
[00:10] <ActionParsnip> sovereign: if you run:  ls    which is a lower case LS, do you see the filename listed?
[00:10] <mattalexx> In Banshee, I have an album that contains multiple artists. I have edited the tracks' meta data and set the "Album Artist" field with a consistent value, but the browser interface still lists every artist individually. What can I do about this?
[00:11] <sovereign> ActionParsnip, the file is not listed
[00:11] <whoever> hi all is there a repo for quanta plus yet
[00:12] <rick__> hello all im looking for a ubuntu 11.10 software that is like windows device manager is thier somthing on my system already or in the software center
[00:12] <ActionParsnip> sovereign: then its in a different directory
[00:14] <rick__>  hello all im looking for a ubuntu 11.10 software that is like windows device manager is thier somthing on my system already or in the software center
[00:16] <zykotick9> !info gnome-device-manager
[00:16] <crc32> Where is the network manager? in Ubuntu.  There is not signal ICON or anyting on my panel. I can create connections but I can't enable them from network-connections. How do I enable a network connection such as an already configured VPN connection.
[00:16] <urlin2u> crc32, which desktop are you running?
[00:17] <crc32> gnome withut gdm.
[00:17] <rick__>  hello all im looking for a ubuntu 11.10 software that is like windows device manager is thier somthing on my system already or in the software center
[00:17] <whoever> rick__: look at settings, its on the menu bar
[00:17] <urlin2u> crc32, not sure I understand nor can I probably help either.
[00:18] <zykotick9> crc32: you can try running "nm-applet" (NOTE: if you want to connect to wireless you might NEED GDM)
[00:18] <crc32> I installed netork-manager-blah-gnome to get the vpn stuff but Once I configure a conection from network-connections I see no way enable the connection.
[00:18] <hernsb> so, ive got minecraft and i can play it without any issues -- but, i cant put it in the dock (or whatever this is called :\ )
[00:19] <crc32> nm-applet is already running in the background with no visible windows to configure anything. All the docs keep saying there's supposed to be on icon to click on
[00:19] <hernsb> the icon i mean
[00:19] <PaulEycks> What is the name of the GUI fax program in Ubuntu 10.11?
[00:19] <rick__> im not seeing it
[00:19] <urlin2u> rick__, so whats the end goal here?
[00:20] <crc32> I just want to turn on this Cisco VPN connection. All I can do is edit a connection there is not ENABLE CONNECTION button or anything
[00:20] <rick__> to shut off cooling fan if possible and monitor temp
[00:20] <Guest43715> say I have a process running (e.g. firefox) and it is PID 1501, how would I send that PID commands from the terminal?
[00:20] <rick__> wile i surf in steath mode lol
[00:20] <Guest43715> trying to manipulate firefox over ssh
[00:20] <hernsb> ... how do i add minecraft.jar to the launcher?
[00:20] <rick__> stealth mode
[00:21] <urlin2u> rick__, there would be a app for that, not sure what though.
[00:21] <ubuntu> siema
[00:21] <zykotick9> !info lm-sensors | rick__
[00:21] <h00k> rick__: it depends on what browser you're using, check for 'private browsing mode'
[00:22] <rick__> yes i got lm sensors alreary
[00:22] <dbugger> Hey guys. I just installed oneric, and it only detects one monitor. What is wrong??
[00:22] <crc32> Ok so whats the deal theres a process called "nm-connection-editor" that lets me add network connections but how do I turn off and on the connections onces theyr configured.
[00:22] <ubuntu> witam zwolenników ubuntu
[00:22] <rick__> how to shut off coolling fan????
[00:22] <pinkfloyd> htop is a great tool for manage pid's : )
[00:22] <kurtul> my microphone works when i try with audacity. but with google-talk plugin in browsser it doesn't. how can i fix it?
[00:23] <Oer> rick__, shutting off cooling fan will damage hardware.
[00:23] <rick__> i wiil monitor temps
[00:23] <crc32> OMG where is the network manager?
[00:23] <rick__> i just want to run for a while to prove point
[00:24] <zykotick9> rick__: REALLY not a good idea
[00:24] <r0z4> Hi everybody, somebody can tell me if is possible make a backup from user and groups and some link or a how to do???
[00:25] <crc32> There is a Last used colunm in the connection editor but no way to use the actual connection. Am I the only one seeing this?
[00:25] <rick__> please dont question my methods and just try to help anser question
[00:26] <joe_____> hey
[00:26] <joe_____> exit
[00:26] <urlin2u> rick__, please recognize that if you have customized your set up you may be out of the channels help model. :)
[00:26] <Oer> rick__, then pull out the powerline, i think ACPI won't let you do that, it will shutoff immediatly
[00:26] <crc32> hey I have a question how do I turn on a network connection in Gnome?
[00:26] <urlin2u> crc32, with the nrtwork manager
[00:27] <urlin2u> network*
[00:27] <Xyt> Ok i get a weird error when trying to install this raid controller. ../../../inc/linux/Makefile.def:85: *** Only kernel 2.4/2.6 is supported but you use 2.0.  Stop.
[00:27] <rick__> so noone knows if thier is system tool to shut fan off and turn on
[00:27] <_cb> if I press alt tab my desktop becomes unusable. Anyone heard of anything like that ?
[00:27] <Xyt> any ideas?
[00:27] <crc32> urlin2u: Where is the network manager? Its like a mystery on my machine. Where do I click to pull out this magical program?
[00:28] <ActionParsnip> _cb: tried a different app switcher plugin?
[00:28] <urlin2u> crc32, top panel on a desktop setup, you asked about gnome you also left out gnome 2 or gnome 3
[00:28] <zykotick9> rick__: why would there be a system tool to physically break hardware?
[00:28] <rick__> good question
[00:28] <sovereign> i tried to install a program in terminal that failed is there anyway to undo what was done
[00:29] <Xyt> but im using Ubuntu 11.10
[00:29] <_cb> ActionParsnip have not done anything to my desktop. A few days it started happening. Maybe after an update?
[00:29] <cfhowlett> rick__: http://trouble-maker.sourceforge.net/
[00:29] <rick__> its not going to break unless it reaches critical temp
[00:29] <kion> is there a way to pass commnands from a shell script to a telnet session? I am trying to write a script that will use a telnet connection.
[00:29] <rick__> fan is on pulse anyways
[00:29] <zykotick9> rick__: which will take, what, 10 seconds?
[00:29] <crc32> urlin2u: I'm on 10.04 with the default setup. I can't see any gnome version message at the time. So what is this gnome 1 2 3 How do I know?
[00:30] <rick__> maybee
[00:30] <rick__> im hopeing to get 2 minutes
[00:30] <urlin2u> crc32, take a screenshot of the desktop and imagebin it.
[00:30] <zykotick9> crc32: verify that you have gnome-indicator-applet in your toolbar
[00:30] <urlin2u> !imagebin > crc32
[00:30] <_cb> are there any desktop settings related to desktop switching I can look at in unity?
[00:30] <rick__> it should go into automatic shutdown anyway
[00:31] <Jordan_U> Gskellig: I'm not sure why it's failing to decompress. Have you checked the file's md5sum?
[00:31] <rick__> out like a lite
[00:32] <cfhowlett> rick__: http://www.havetheknowhow.com/Configure-the-server/Monitor-server-temperatures.html
[00:32] <Xyt> if i have Ubuntu 11.04 and upgraded to 11.10 would it carry over the drivers for the raid controller?
[00:32] <Jordan_U> Gskellig: Why do you need to open a dmg file in the first place?
[00:32] <urlin2u> Xyt, you don't have that installed right?
[00:33] <Xyt> i have 11.10 installed amt
[00:33] <Xyt> atm
[00:33] <Xyt> but the drivers dont like the new 3.0 kernal it looks like
[00:34] <karsten> Where can I find a specific current package in LTS (10.04)?  Specifically, offlineimap.
[00:34] <karsten> Also trying to sort a problem in 11.10, with, you guessed it, offlineimap.
[00:34] <Xyt> so would an upgrade by pass the install?
[00:35] <Xyt> ../../../inc/linux/Makefile.def:85: *** Only kernel 2.4/2.6 is supported but you use 2.0.  Stop. Is what i get when i run the Make command
[00:36] <urlin2u> karsten,  here is the man page.  http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/dapper/man1/offlineimap.1.html
[00:36] <karsten> urlin2u: LTS == dapper?
[00:36] <hernsb> how do you run programs that are only offered for mac or windows? (i.e. Evernote)
[00:36] <Nullifi3d> The man pages. For men.
[00:36] <iceroot> !wine | hernsb
[00:36] <karsten> hernsb: ...that's way old IIRC.
[00:36] <urlin2u> all releases mentioned you will have to look I suspect karsten look at the link not the url
[00:36] <karsten> hernsb: In a VM.
[00:37] <hernsb> virtual machine?
[00:37] <iceroot> hernsb: also there is "nevernote" native for ubuntu which is supporting evernote
[00:37] <cfhowlett> hernsb: virtualbox, vmware
[00:37] <urlin2u> karsten, http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/oneiric/man1/offlineimap.1.html  this make you feel beter. :)
[00:37] <hernsb> will look into these things now
[00:37] <mattalexx> hernsb, I usually check if an app has good Wine support first. If not, I run it using Virtualbox.
[00:38] <iceroot> hernsb: no need to look into vbox/vmware
[00:38] <iceroot> hernsb: its running with wine
[00:38] <hernsb> *ive been running ubuntu for like 6 hours -- thats all my experience with non-windows machines*
[00:38] <mattalexx> hernsb, Welcome!
[00:38] <hernsb> will look into wine
[00:38] <iceroot> !appdb | hernsb
[00:38] <hernsb> thanks for all the assistance
[00:38] <karsten> urlin2u: Apparently what I want is lucid.
[00:38] <hernsb> excellent
[00:39] <crc32> http://imagebin.org/198142  <-- Can't find a way to enable this link. It always says last used never.  I don't see any process called gnome-indicator-applet.
[00:39] <urlin2u> karsten, then click that link in the man I guess. Out of my pay area really, just giving you info to look at.
[00:39] <zykotick9> hernsb: finding native gnu/linux replacements for windows programs will serve you better in the long run.  I'd consider wine a crutch for those new to the system.
[00:39] <karsten> urlin2u: yeah, gotchya.
[00:39] <urlin2u> ;)
[00:40] <hernsb> understood
[00:40] <hernsb> so far Evernote is the only thing I dont want to give up/replace
[00:40] <hernsb> i can use the web app though
[00:40] <tigrang> When I put my Samsung RV515 laptop to standby and resume, all I get is a black screen, no backlight. My dmesg log says "hash matches /build/buildd/linux-3.0.0/drivers/base/power/main.c:587" but theres no hash device for me to go on. Is there anything else I can do to debug this?
[00:40] <hernsb> i just have too many notes to bother switching to a different program now
[00:40] <crc32> anyways. How do you enable a network connection.
[00:41] <zykotick9> crc32: do you have indicator-applet in your menu?  Use "Add to Menu" to verify.
[00:41] <zykotick9> s/menu/toolbar/
[00:42] <crc32> I'm on gnome desktop 2.30.2
[00:42] <crc32> If I right click something from the menu it gives the option to add to panel
[00:42] <zykotick9> crc32: add indicator-applet
[00:43] <crc32> bear with me I usually launch everything from the command line.
[00:43] <rick__> ok pal it tells me how to set shut down temp but still nothing about shutting off fan
[00:44] <urlin2u> !tab > rick__
[00:44] <crc32> zykotick9 it looks like a speaker with a red X appeared along with an ICON of email
[00:44] <urlin2u> rick__, please use nics if you can :)
[00:44] <Oer> rick__, you can't, fan 0 won't be accepted in acpi
[00:44] <zykotick9> crc32: try running nm-applet again
[00:44] <rick__> urlin2u: ok
[00:45] <urlin2u> rick__, cool. :)
[00:45] <karsten> crc32: ifup <interface> generally. Details may vary.
[00:45] <hernsb> what about Steam?
[00:45] <zykotick9> hernsb: i hear it works with wine, but check the appdb to verify
[00:45] <hernsb> ok
[00:45] <cfhowlett> hernsb: http://www.linoob.com/2010/04/steam-platform-for-ubuntu/
[00:45] <eeriks> Hi, i have two Os on my computer linux and windows xp. i can reash windows now for some reason. when i started linux it said something about /tmp  can i do something via linux ?
[00:46] <crc32> zykotick9: nm-applet warns that its already running and also warns it coulden't initialize the D-Bus manager.
[00:46] <eeriks> i understand if it is difficult to answer because it is abit foggy question
[00:46] <urlin2u> eeriks, can you clarify that ore specifically. :)
[00:46] <urlin2u> more*
[00:46] <zykotick9> crc32: try "killall nm-applet" then "nm-applet" from a terminal
[00:46] <crc32> ok so I just uploaded a picture does this image look out of the ordinary?
[00:47] <urlin2u> crc32, we need the url
[00:47] <crc32> http://imagebin.org/198142
[00:48] <eeriks> i just "built" this computer from this old computer and my old computer. everything is working but when i try to start windows the screen turns black and it does not boot.
[00:48] <eeriks> but i can log in to linux (im logged in via ubuntu now
[00:48] <eeriks> )
[00:48] <crc32> yea nm-applet does nothing. I can't even find a man page for it so I don't know what the "--sm-disable" flag  even does.
[00:48] <zykotick9> crc32: what's is the icon to the left of teh speaker?
[00:49] <crc32> the is the network connection editor. It launches the 2 windows you see in the picture. Like I said it lets me add and edit connections but I'm at a loss as to how to enable them.
[00:49] <mavrick95>  am having trouble on mounting my hdd via terminal
[00:49] <eeriks> i took parts from two not working computers and got one working one :P
[00:50] <urlin2u> zykotick9, its the network tweaking icon, not the regular network manager
[00:50] <cfhowlett> eeriks: how exactly did you install ubuntu
[00:50] <crc32> the docs online say click on them in the network manager. But I don't see a network manager, Just this connection editor. (Unless thats what the docs where reffering too).
[00:50] <eeriks> it was allready installed on the disc
[00:50] <zykotick9> crc32: no, you "should" have another icon
[00:50] <cfhowlett> eeriks: I thnk we might see the issue...
[00:50] <eeriks> i did install it via windows i think
[00:51] <crc32> so its missing from the picture then.
[00:51] <zykotick9> crc32: yup
[00:52] <cfhowlett> eeriks: you can boot windows, yes?
[00:52] <zykotick9> crc32: do you have network-manager-gnome installed?  verify with "apt-cache policy network-manager-gnome" in a terminal
[00:52] <eeriks> one of the old computer was ready to be crashed or recycled, also i am not that good with computers. i think it is great that it actually worked ^
[00:52] <eeriks> no, i cant boot windown
[00:52] <eeriks> windows*
[00:52] <cfhowlett> eeriks: so no windows no ubuntu, right?
[00:52] <crc32> yes  I do I installed these
[00:52] <crc32> sudo apt-get install network-manager-gnome network-manager-openvpn-gnome network-manager-openconnect-gnome network-manager-pptp-gnome network-manager-vpnc-gnome
[00:53] <eeriks> i have windows and ubuntu on the disc
[00:53] <zykotick9> crc32: well, I'm out of ideas, good luck.
[00:53] <cfhowlett> eeriks: can you boot anything at all?
[00:53] <crc32> After installing those the new VPN modules appear in the network connection editor but again no way to activate them.
[00:53] <crc32>  gdm
[00:54] <crc32> So I'm not crazy this is brain damage right?
[00:54] <eeriks> when i log in on the computer i can log in to linux or windows
[00:54] <zenon> what?
[00:54] <eeriks> my english is bad
[00:54] <eeriks> wait
[00:55] <zenon> brain damage!
[00:55] <zenon> what was I saying again?
[00:56] <crc32> so is there no way to start the network manager form  the command line?
[00:56] <zenon> error your brain is damaged.
[00:56] <zykotick9> crc32: nm-applet (i think we went over this?)
[00:56] <eeriks> at boot so I can choose if I want to log on linux or windows.
[00:57] <crc32> zykotick9: Nothing you've gone over was ever conclusive.
[00:57] <eeriks> windows doesnt work for some reason
[00:57] <zykotick9> crc32: right well good luck.
[00:57] <cfhowlett> eeriks: does ubuntu work?
[00:58] <eeriks> i am logged in on the computer i am talking about now, but on linux
[00:58] <eeriks> yes, i am logged in there now
[00:58] <mattswe> heyo, I'm working on log forwarding using rsyslogd. is there any way to have rsyslog deal with an intermittent internet connection, when sending logs to a remote server?
[00:58] <zenon> can anyone help me with soundcard?
[00:58] <cfhowlett> eeriks: what's your first language?
[00:58] <eeriks> i have two operator systems on this computer
[00:58] <eeriks> swedish
[00:59] <cfhowlett> !se|eeriks
[00:59] <MrNaz> ok so i have a machine that will be doing nothing but running a script in a cron job, and that script needs root privs... what is the best way to avoid the password prompt when running a script as root? enabling the root account or is there a proper "Ubuntu Way" of doing this?
[01:00] <mattswe> run it from the root crontab?
[01:00] <MrNaz> this box is a dedicated appliance for this purpose, security is a non-issue
[01:00] <zenon> CM8738 I found this but it is beyond me right now. http://www.opensound.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=4200
[01:00] <whoever> i am having a problem with bind , i get this error when i tail syslog on start /etc/bind/named.conf.local:7: expected quoted string near '“'
[01:00] <MrNaz> mattalexx occasionally the script will be invoked manually... i want to avoid the passwd prompt there too
[01:00] <whoever> but the line is already quoted, can someone assist
[01:00] <zenon> the synth wave is not working
[01:00] <crc32> whoever whats on line 7?
[01:00] <rectec> Excuse me I'm trying to launch brasero but it gives me: brasero: error while loading shared libraries: libunity.so.6: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[01:00] <zenon> & in's not checked outs
[01:00] <mattalexx> MrCraig, Huh?
[01:01] <crc32> whoever lets see the line in pastebin./
[01:01] <kindkid> Is there a guide for getting one of these images to run in VirtualBox locally? http://cloud-images.ubuntu.com/releases/11.10/release/
[01:01] <whoever> crc32:  should i just paste the whole file
[01:02] <whoever> crc32: http://paste.ubuntu.com/835985/
[01:02] <crc32> sure
[01:04] <crc32> I think you need IN before the {
[01:04] <crc32> let me see
[01:05] <crc32> mine looks like this
[01:05] <crc32> http://paste.ubuntu.com/835989/
[01:06] <crc32> The default zones don't show that you need the IN keywords but they quote the word localhost
[01:06] <sprites> what scripting languages do yall like best
[01:06] <chid> how do I disable windows from one desktop flowing into the next?
[01:06] <zenon> when talking about code, entering?
[01:06] <chid> using compiz, 11.10
[01:06] <kindkid> So far, I've run VBoxManage convertfromraw -format VDI oneiric-server-cloudimg-amd64.img oneiric-server-cloudimg-amd64.vdi, renamed the -floppy to have .iso on the end, which I used to try to boot from. but after the grub bootloader, got a bunch of errors and then it "Gave up waiting for root device"
[01:06] <razorr> cxx
[01:08] <zenon> at least can someone tell me how to exit info bash?
[01:08] <crc32> Is that some kind of unicode representation of a quote? Does bind accept that?
[01:08] <kindkid> the only helpful thing I found via google was this: http://www.mail-archive.com/ubuntu-cloud@lists.ubuntu.com/msg00190.html … but it's for an older version, i don't understand it ;/
[01:08] <Flannel> zenon: 'q'
[01:09] <zenon> =) thanks
[01:09] <erik32533> hello all
[01:09] <TheMaster> Hello
[01:09] <zenon> Hi
[01:09] <cfhowlett> erik32533: greetings
[01:09] <erik32533> is there a way to get firefox 8 or 9
[01:10] <chid> how do I disable windows from one workspace flowing into the next?
[01:10] <vacho_> I am running ubuntu 11.04 and I want to update my apache to latest version, what is the best approach??
[01:10] <chid> erik32533: download it from the website
[01:10] <crc32> whoever: I don't think bind likes those funky unicoded open and close quotes. Use plain old ascii code 34
[01:10] <chid> vacho_: how latest? svn latest?
[01:10] <erik32533> it redirects me to version 10
[01:10] <chid> oh
[01:10] <chid> you go to the ftp website
[01:10] <chid> and it'll have old one
[01:10] <vacho_> chid: upgrading to 2.2.22
[01:11] <vacho_> currently have 2.2.17
[01:11] <whoever> crc32: i made the change with IN ad got the same error http://pastebin.com/MEU65y4y
[01:11] <chid> http://releases.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla.org/firefox/releases/ for erik32533
[01:12] <chid> 2.2.20 is in repo
[01:12] <vacho_> chid: does that mean I can use apt?
[01:12] <erik32533> is that for windows
[01:13] <mavrick95> i am trying to mount my hdd while booting fron liveUSB. i already got the address with command "fdisk -l", but when i type: "sudo mount /dev/sda" it says that it was not found on /etc/fstab or mtab. Can someone please help me?
[01:13] <crc32> yea don't use that funky open and close quote use "  instead
[01:13] <zacarias> can't read commercial cd's. They are mounted and I have a notification asking if I want to open with Bnashee. But nothing happens. It doesn't play any wav file. I tried with other players: the same
[01:14] <chid> vacho_: yes
[01:14] <whoever> crc32: the quote also resemble the quotes in your file so don't know what you mean
[01:14] <chid> apt-get update, apt-get install apache2+tab
[01:15] <erik32533> that firefox is for windows
[01:15] <crc32> your quote is unicode character u'\u201c'
[01:15] <vacho_> chid: so using apt will not give me latest version of 2.2.22 :( how do I upgrade to latest?
[01:16] <erik32533> chid there is nothing to download foir linux on the link u gave me
[01:16] <holstein> erik32533: you can add the stable PPA... from https://launchpad.net/~mozillateam/+archive/firefox-stable ... sudo apt-add-repository ppa:mozillateam/firefox-stable
[01:16] <holstein> erik32533: then you can just sudo apt-get update and sudo apt-get upgrade and you should have the latest stable version
[01:17] <vacho_> chid: btw, thanks for taking time and helping me :) I appreciate it.
[01:17] <whoever> crc32: are you saying to chang to u'u201"
[01:17] <whoever> crc32: or to use u/22 which is double quote
[01:17] <erik32533> look i dont want 10
[01:17] <holstein> erik32533: look?
[01:18] <erik32533> 10 crashes
[01:18] <holstein> you can choose in synaptic what version you want
[01:18] <erik32533> on me
[01:18] <crc32> forget it just replace your qquotes with single ticks '
[01:18] <crc32> that will make it easier
[01:18] <holstein> erik32533: or you can troubleshoot the crashing in 10... if you havent tried *that* pacakged 10, you might want to try it
[01:18] <vacho_> how do I check what version of php is in the repo?
[01:19] <Oer> !info php
[01:19] <vacho_> im on 11.04
[01:19] <holstein> vacho_: i would just fire up synaptic or whatever package manager and search and look :)
[01:19] <Oer> !info php5
[01:19] <erik32533> there is no version 9 in syaptec package manager
[01:19] <holstein> erik32533: did you add that PPA ?
[01:20] <holstein> erik32533: i read at that link i gave you that 9.0.1 is in that PPA
[01:20] <erik32533> ok now how do i add it
[01:21] <holstein> erik32533: otherwise, i wouldnt have suggested it.. OR, you could use the link chid gave you and build your own
[01:21] <zingaro> hello?
[01:21] <zingaro> hey its me i was on the account killerfx earlier
[01:21] <zingaro> but i wanted to ask? i dont have that gump thing i have like gump 2?
[01:21] <holstein> erik32533: you can look at that link i gave https://launchpad.net/~mozillateam/+archive/firefox-stable ..or copy and paste what i gave you before... sudo apt-add-repository ppa:mozillateam/firefox-stable
[01:21] <cfhowlett> erik32533: http://www.mozilla.org/en-US/products/download.html?product=firefox-9.0&os=linux&lang=en-US
[01:22] <holstein> erik32533: you can grab it from there ^^ or where i linked it to you before
[01:22] <whoever> crc32: ok, now i get that localhost zone already exists
[01:22] <Oer> holstein, there is no FF9 for oneiric there..
[01:22] <LiENUS> anyone have suggestions for a good text editor i can use from the command line over ssh?
[01:23] <holstein> Oer: ive been using it ;)
[01:23] <whoever> so is it better to  merge my localhost into the one that already exists or just rename my localhost to something else ?
[01:23] <zingaro> how can i boot into windows?
[01:23] <erik32533> ok
[01:23] <zingaro> i installed ubuntu from a usb
[01:24] <erik32533> i save that file
[01:24] <erik32533> tar.bz2
[01:24] <dies_irae> sound dead
[01:24] <dies_irae> how to fix?
[01:24] <holstein> zingaro: if you are in ubuntu, open a terminal and type: sudo update-grub
[01:24] <cfhowlett> erik32533: sudo dpkg -i filename.deb
[01:24] <dies_irae> alsa shows card but not preferences.
[01:24] <holstein> zingaro: see that you see windows in the output
[01:24] <dies_irae> what kind of pulse sorcery is this??
[01:25] <holstein> zingaro: then reboot and you'll see it in GRUB... assuming you didnt install over top of it
[01:25] <whoever> crc32: now it starts thx for help , now only hope that it does what i extpect
[01:27] <zingaro> @holstein i tryed that and all it did was not boot ubuntu
[01:27] <zingaro> thus making it unusable and then i had to reinstall ubuntu
[01:28] <holstein> zingaro: well, you chose to do that.. there are other ways to repair... not sure whats going on .. what does grub show you at boot?... do you see and/or can you mount the windows partition?
[01:28] <erik32533> no such file or director error
[01:28] <dies_irae> help appreciated
[01:29] <holstein> !details | erik32533
[01:29] <zingaro> @holstein idk what you mean and when i boot my pc it comes up as a video error like something it says about in resalution errr on my comp screen, then it goes black and the idle light is on then linux(ubuntu) is loaded
[01:29] <erik32533> https://launchpad.net/~mozillateam/+archive/firefox-stable
[01:30] <erik32533> do i add that to package manager
[01:30] <zacarias> How can I liesten to commercial cd's? When I insert one I have it mounted and with the list of wav files, but no player plays them, even Banshee, the suggested one
[01:30] <bazhang> !addppa | erik32533
[01:30] <Masterman467> hum
[01:31] <holstein> erik32533: which ever way you choose to go... i have used that with oneiric though the prefered method would be to donwload it from mozilla where cfhowlett suggested http://www.mozilla.org/en-US/products/download.html?product=firefox-9.0&os=linux&lang=en-US
[01:31] <Masterman467> i dont speek spanish
[01:31] <Ben64> I just got a server, but it has a custom kernel. I want to use the standard ubuntu one so I can use vmware and upgrade easily. I apt-got the kernel and grub-pc, yet the server still doesn't boot. What should I do?
[01:31] <dies_irae> how to force pulse to re-scan sound devices?
[01:31] <dies_irae> it's vanished
[01:31] <dies_irae> but it do exist in alsamixer
[01:31] <zingaro> idk well ima reboot my pc hopefully the grub comes up
[01:31] <erik32533> do i add the launch pad to package manager
[01:31] <holstein> dies_irae: i usually kill it, or just restart alsa, or both
[01:31] <dies_irae> could've to do with rm -rf .pulse* ?
[01:31] <Masterman467> 1500 people in a chat? holy fuck
[01:31] <zingaro> wait it said something about grub???
[01:31] <zingaro> grub2**
[01:32] <bazhang> Masterman467, no cursing
[01:32] <avieros> Anyone know how to connect to a WPA2-EAP in Oneiric? I'm using an ASUS USB-N13 wireless adapter
[01:32] <holstein> erik32533: if thats what you want to do.. otherwise, download from the other location and insatll
[01:32] <holstein> install*
[01:32] <crc32> found it.
[01:32] <Masterman467> realy? are you all 12?
[01:32] <crc32> Had to set managed=true in /etc/NetworkManager/nm-system-settings.conf
[01:32] <Masterman467> no swearing
[01:32] <zingaro> can anyone help me?
[01:33] <Masterman467> is bs
[01:33] <erik32533> i cant figure out how to add
[01:33] <bazhang> Masterman467, do you have an actual support question?
[01:33] <zingaro> i think i have grub 2 not grub
[01:33] <erik32533> im not good at command line
[01:33] <Masterman467> what is a suport question?
[01:33] <holstein> zingaro: likely.. whats the issue?
[01:33] <Masterman467> suport for what?
[01:33] <bazhang> !ot | Masterman467
[01:33] <dies_irae> holstein: kill what?
[01:33] <crc32> no I finally get a network manager icon
[01:33] <dies_irae> Masterman467: u lost?
[01:33] <zingaro> @holstein i have grub2 i think and how can i use that to boot windows?
[01:34] <Masterman467> wut is unbuntu?
[01:34] <holstein> dies_irae: pulse... i usually just make sure its not running and start it, and/or restart alsa
[01:34] <avieros> Anyone know how to connect to a WPA2-EAP in Oneiric? I'm using an ASUS USB-N13 wireless adapter, it keeps asking me for authentication but it won't accept it
[01:34] <bazhang> !ubuntu > Masterman467
[01:34] <holstein> zingaro: for me, it just automatically works... install ubuntu beside windows, and grub gives an entry for both ubuntu and windows
[01:34] <zacarias> How can I listen to commercial cd's? When I insert one I have it mounted and with the list of wav files, but no player plays them, even Banshee, the suggested one
[01:34] <dies_irae> why restart alsa? alsamixer shows the card alright, by the way is the second one.
[01:34] <erik32533> holestein
[01:34] <dicannamas> !upgrade
[01:34] <rick__> ok now when i try to open a image file in the my paint program it opens ubuntu 11.10 directories but none of my images are thier i know they are acsessable from browser download tab so why cant i find them from the directorys that pop up when i click file then open in the my paint program
[01:35] <Masterman467> oh, so its apple? fuck apple
[01:35] <erik32533> whatr am i to do at lauunchpade page
[01:35] <zingaro> @holstein yeah ik i installed it besides windows but idk :/ ill restart brb
[01:35] <holstein> erik32533: you can just type hol and hit tab, and it'll autocomplete holstein
[01:35] <MrNaz> how often does the cron daemon refresh the crontab file?
[01:35] <holstein> erik32533: you can either choose to add that PPA to your sources with that command i gave you, or download from mozilla
[01:36] <erik32533> after i download
[01:36] <erik32533> from mpzills
[01:36] <erik32533> how do i 9install
[01:36] <holstein> erik32533: there should be a read me in there.. we are not responsible for making those packages
[01:36] <zacarias> How can I liesten to commercial cd's? When I insert one I have it mounted and with the list of wav files, but no player plays them, even Banshee, the suggested one
[01:36] <holstein> though, i will help you if you elaborate erik32533
[01:37] <rick__>  ok now when i try to open a image file in the my paint program it opens ubuntu 11.10 directories but none of my images are thier i know they are acsessable from browser download tab so why cant i find them from the directorys that pop up when i click file then open in the my paint program
[01:37] <holstein> zacarias: you likely need codec support.. http://www.mozilla.org/en-US/products/download.html?product=firefox-9.0&os=linux&lang=en-US
[01:37] <erik32533> i download
[01:37] <erik32533> from firefox
[01:38] <erik32533> tar.bz2 file
[01:38] <holstein> erik32533: correct.. you can literally right-click on that and extract it
[01:40] <erik32533> there is no readme file in the one i download
[01:40] <holstein> rick__: seems like its just a navigation issue.. if these are things you downloaded, they should be in ~/Downloads
[01:40] <zingaro> @holstein can i edit the grub files? in ubuntu????
[01:40] <zingaro> to load windows auto?
[01:41] <holstein> erik32533: OK.. whats there?.. why do you want to upgrade? is it features or security?.. the packaged one is going to recieve security updates automatically
[01:41] <urlin2u> zingaro, have you run sudo update-grub
[01:41] <erik32533> ok
[01:41] <zingaro> i already did
[01:41] <lastch> is there some way to boost the audio -- sort of the way VLC player lets you go to 200 % -- but just on everything?
[01:41] <erik32533> will the one on lauchpad
[01:42] <holstein> zingaro: sure... but when i have seen that issue, i have ran sudo update-grub as urlin2u suggests, and that i mentioned earlier, and it just picks up windows... which is why i asked if you could see/mount the windows partition.. and i didnt hear back from you on that
[01:42] <erik32533> im running version 7
[01:42] <zingaro> @holstein i can see the windows file yes :D
[01:42] <erik32533> i did all the updates
[01:43] <erik32533> i goto play yahoo spades
[01:43] <erik32533> firefox crashes
[01:43] <zingaro> @holstein and i ran that termianl command and it updated so i shutdown and turned it on again and nothing happend
[01:43] <holstein> erik32533: right, so unless you are missing a feature from FF9, just relaxy
[01:43] <holstein> relax*
[01:43] <urlin2u> zingaro, canyou post the output ion a pastebin of sudo fdisk -lu
[01:43] <holstein> erik32533: that is likey a flash issue.. i suggest you try that game in chrome and see if it crashes
[01:43] <urlin2u> !pastebin > zingaro
[01:44] <erik32533> ok
[01:44] <erik32533> ill be turning off updates
[01:44] <holstein> erik32533: yeah?... thats not what i implied
[01:44] <erik32533> it working now
[01:44] <erik32533> so ill not let a update
[01:45] <holstein> turn off updates if you are aware of the consequenses, and are comfortable with that
[01:45] <erik32533> break the system
[01:45] <holstein> erik32533: well.. it broke that games functionality.. not the system
[01:45] <erik32533> ok
[01:45] <holstein> and it was likely a flash issue that you will see again... but enjoy :)
[01:45] <_cb> how does one set the Ubuntu DNS servers?
[01:45] <zingaro> did it work?
[01:46] <DLabz> hey, guys. Having a problem with MBR
[01:46] <erik32533> ill ignore flash  an firefox updates
[01:46] <zingaro> !pastebin http://pastebin.com/d21ze0sf
[01:46] <karsten> _cb: /etc/resolv.conf
[01:46] <erik32533> maybe the other issuses be fixed in next release of ubunru
[01:46] <DLabz> What I did: used dd to create an image of my /dev/sda
[01:47] <karsten> _cb: they're also usually set via dhcp configs unless you override them.
[01:47] <holstein> erik32533: its not an ubuntu issue, so likely not.. we are not able to maintain flash, nor do we do anything with that game online
[01:47] <lastch> anyone know how to boost the audio on this machine?
[01:47] <_cb> karsten how do I override them?
[01:47] <DLabz> than, on a second macine, used dd to copy that image on the hdd
[01:47] <holstein> lastch: i would look in the terminal in alsamixer
[01:47] <DLabz> all worked, exept no MBR
[01:47] <lastch> will look, thanks
[01:47] <DLabz> tried boot-repar, no luck
[01:47] <zingaro> !holstein http://pastebin.com/d21ze0sf
[01:48] <_cb> karsten I have static ip on the server, cleare the nameservers from resolv.conf but it is still resolving names
[01:48] <DLabz> what now?
[01:48] <urlin2u> zingaro, cool that does show windows being there run this script and pastebin the results.txt  http://bootinfoscript.sourceforge.net/
[01:48] <karsten> _cb: /etc/dhcp/dhclient.conf or /etc/dhcp3/dhclient.conf
[01:48] <holstein> zingaro: yeah.. assuming those are windows partitions, is should just work.. will you run sudo update-grub in the terminal and post that output to pastebin?
[01:49] <urlin2u> DLabz, run this script and pastebin the results text you may already have a copy. http://bootinfoscript.sourceforge.net/
[01:49] <karsten> _cb: also check to see if they're specified in /etc/network/interfaces.
[01:49] <holstein> zingaro: acutally, go with urlin2u .. i didnt realize we had both been pinged.. though i can understand this can be frustrating
[01:49] <zingaro> @holstein what do you mean?
[01:50] <karsten> _cb: Though AFAIK they're not set from there.
[01:50] <urlin2u> holstein, just wanted to see if the windows boot files were there with the bootscript
[01:50] <holstein> zingaro: 20:48 < urlin2u> zingaro, cool that does show windows being there run this script and pastebin the results.txt   http://bootinfoscript.sourceforge.net/
[01:50] <urlin2u> ;)
[01:50] <holstein> ^^ do that.. then if you want, you can run sudo update-grub and post that output
[01:50] <DLabz> urlin2u: http://paste.ubuntu.com/836006/
[01:50] <DLabz> from he last boot-repair
[01:50] <Ben64> !info linux-image-server
[01:50] <dies_irae> how to restart alsa?
[01:52] <holstein> does sudo /etc/init.d/alsa-utils restart still do it dies_irae ?
[01:52] <lion42> dies_irae: sudo alsa force-reload
[01:52] <lion42> (I think. But I'm typically wrong.)
[01:52] <holstein> yeah, thats the better one ^^
[01:53] <urlin2u> DLabz, what exactly is the ubuntu on and how was it installed the script is missing some key stuff.
[01:53] <zingaro> http://pastebin.com/RumZCUfJ
[01:54] <DLabz> ubuntu is on the zotac zbox
[01:54] <zingaro> @holstein http://pastebin.com/RumZCUfJ
[01:54] <DLabz> runing from usb live version
[01:54] <DLabz> 10.04
[01:54] <DLabz> urlin2u: ^^
[01:54] <holstein> zingaro: looks good.. i would run sudo update-grub .. you can run that and paste the output here if you'd like
[01:56] <urlin2u> DLabz, So you can't repair this with a bootrepair it is a ISO with a persistent file I assume, Did it just stop booting all of sudden?
[01:57] <urlin2u> zingaro, Did you resize windows before the install or as part of it with ubuntu?
[01:57] <DLabz> no, I'm trying to clone the OS
[01:57] <_cb> /etc/network/interfaces only has the static ip, netmask and gateway but the server is still resolving names. how?
[01:57] <zingaro> ive always had windows so i didnt mess with it
[01:57] <zingaro> http://pastebin.com/0QBXMmPi
[01:57] <DLabz> urlin2u: Specs are same, exept that the hdd is a bit bigger on this one
[01:57] <zingaro> thats the grub update
[01:57] <urlin2u> DLabz, beyond my pat rate sorry.
[01:57] <urlin2u> pay
[01:58] <holstein> zingaro: one of the windows ones will boot windows.. sometimes i find they can be mis-labeled
[01:59] <zingaro> @holstein how do i boot windows?
[01:59] <holstein> zingaro: when you reboot the machine, you'll see a grub list.. you choose windows and boot it
[01:59] <sansnumbers> hello
[01:59] <sansnumbers> are you able to resize an extended partition using gparted from a livecd?
[01:59] <zingaro> when i reboot i dont see the grub list?
[02:00] <urlin2u> sansnumbers, yes
[02:00] <sansnumbers> urlin2: how?
[02:00] <kaou> slt
[02:00] <sansnumbers> urlin2u*
[02:00] <urlin2u> sansnumbers, turn the swap off though
[02:01] <rick_> im having trouble with ubuntu 11.10 when i try to open image file in the my paint program it opens the direcories but i cant find my images i know if i go into browser and click downloas they are thier so how do i open them in the my paint program
[02:01] <urlin2u> sansnumbers, right click the swap partition and the resize.
[02:01] <urlin2u> then
[02:01] <holstein> zingaro: check in gksudo gedit /etc/defaut/grub
[02:01] <holstein> !grub2 | zingaro
[02:02] <holstein> you can refernce that as to what should be there, or paste it to a pastebin
[02:02] <zingaro> @holstein how to i see what is in gksudo gedit /ect/default/grub?
[02:02] <sansnumbers> urlin2: there's some unallocated space between two partitions preventing me from making it as small as possible
[02:03] <sansnumbers> how do i move it?
[02:03] <rick_>  im having trouble with ubuntu 11.10 when i try to open image file in the my paint program it opens the direcories but i cant find my images i know if i go into browser and click downloas they are thier so how do i open them in the my paint program
[02:03] <its_me> Hi, is it true that Ubuntu 12.04 LTS will allow users to choose Unity or GNOME 3.x?
[02:03] <holstein> zingaro: you can open a terminal, and run the command: gksudo gedit /etc/default/grub
[02:03] <urlin2u> sansnumbers, we talked about this yesterday right? imagebin a screenshot of gparted.
[02:04] <sansnumbers> urlin2: i wasn't in here yesterday but okay
[02:04] <holstein> rick_: *yes*... downloads will be in ~/Downloads just naviagte there :)
[02:04] <zingaro> @holstein http://pastebin.com/FqsjLANL
[02:04] <urlin2u> sansnumbers, sometimes there will be a unallocated space that is rather small thts haow it goes.
[02:04] <urlin2u> thats how
[02:04] <_Tristan> Hi. I just got a new laptop and installed ubuntu alongside windows 7, but when I boot I just go straight to windows 7. What do?
[02:05] <rick_> when i open downloads it opens then the window turns light orange and i dont see any downloads thier
[02:05] <urlin2u> _Tristan, you boot the ubuntu cd or thumb, identify which please.
[02:05] <its_me> _Tristan : which did you install first?
[02:05] <holstein> zingaro: i would change that from "#GRUB_HIDDEN_TIMEOUT=0" to "GRUB_HIDDEN_TIMEOUT=8" ... removing the "#" and changing 0 to 8 or so
[02:05] <its_me> _Tristan : First Windows 7 and then Ubuntu I guess?
[02:05] <sansnumbers> urlin2u: http://imagebin.org/198151
[02:06] <holstein> zingaro: then, you *must* run sudo update-grub again
[02:06] <zingaro> why 8?
[02:06] <zingaro> and ok
[02:06] <_Tristan> it was fresh out of the box when I installed ubuntu, but windows as already on the drive
[02:06] <_Tristan> I just hadn't gone through the install process
[02:06] <_Tristan> I used a usb drive
[02:06] <webirc1419> hi im trying to adjust brightness of my laptop screen i tried the system settings  power settings there is no display brightness option there
[02:06] <holstein> rick_: you dont see any downloads that that particular application can see/use.. sometimes at the bottom you can change it to search "all files and folders"
[02:07] <rick_> holstein: ok
[02:07] <holstein> zingaro: 8 seconds.. again, you can refernce that wiki
[02:07] <its_me> _Tristan: I dont understand. Did you install Ubuntu or are you saying that the LiveCD is not booting and you are being taken straight to Windows 7/
[02:07] <its_me> ?
[02:07] <zingaro> @holstein what line is that on?
[02:07] <holstein> i just know the options i mess with regularly zingaro
[02:07] <_Tristan> its_me: I installed ubuntu, but now when I boot to the hard drive it doesn't show grub, just windowws
[02:07] <urlin2u> sansnumbers, right click the sda4 not in the top window but in the lines identifying the partitions then resize.
[02:08] <holstein> zingaro: #GRUB_HIDDEN_TIMEOUT=0 to GRUB_HIDDEN_TIMEOUT=8
[02:08] <its_me> _Tristan: oh, weird.
[02:08] <rick_> holstein: that doesent help
[02:08] <holstein> zingaro: and i would read the that wiki.. make sure you are "unhiding" grub
[02:08] <zingaro> wait i think i know how to fic
[02:08] <holstein> you might want to change GRUB_HIDDEN_TIMEOUT_QUIET=true
[02:09] <urlin2u> sansnumbers, the sda4 is the container of sda5 it is on the edge of sda5 easier to just use the lines naming the partitikons.
[02:09] <its_me> _Tristan: Looks like you need to run boot repair. Follow this: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows
[02:09] <holstein> rick_: OK.. then ~/Downloads is empty or you are in the wrong place or there is an error, or a bug... try opening from the terminal... application /path/to/fil
[02:11] <its_me> _Tristan: And before you do what I just said, install Ubuntu startupmanager ($ sudo apt-get install startupmanager / or / via Ubuntu software center) and see if you can solve it from there.
[02:12] <_Tristan> "The boot of your PC is in EFI mode, but no EFI partition was detected. 	You may want to retry after creating a EFI partition (FAT32, >200Mo, start of the disk, EFI flag). 	Do you want to continue?" < WAT
[02:13] <urlin2u> its_me, startup manager will not change boot stanzs with kernel ujpdates as of about maverick.
[02:14] <egarega> Does anybody know how I can tweak my unity side bar behavior? I'm trying to disable mouse calls
[02:14] <its_me> _Tristan: hmm, no idea. Like I said, do this first as it's safer: install Ubuntu startupmanager ($ sudo apt-get install startupmanager / or / via Ubuntu software center) and see if you can solve it from there.
[02:14] <urlin2u> _Tristan, what Ubuntu release did you install?
[02:14] <synapse> egarega: right click -> preferences -> disable
[02:14] <_Tristan> urlin2u: latest
[02:15] <rick_> holstein: got it thanks i just went in threw main folder and right clicked it and used open with but then i had to rename it with .png on the end
[02:15] <urlin2u> its_me, if this is a oneriric or natty or maverick install a kernel upgrade will leave then unbootable.
[02:15] <urlin2u> _Tristan, don't install the starup manger.
[02:15] <urlin2u> startup
[02:15] <vicsar> .
[02:16] <urlin2u> them*
[02:16] <doug_> hello all
[02:17] <doug_> I need some help with an 11.10 partition that refuses to boot
[02:17] <egarega> What's the problem you're having/
[02:17] <urlin2u> _Tristan, even better since you getting a uefi response this is not a noob area go to the ubuntu forums and start a thread.
[02:18] <doug_> I've had 11.10 on sda3 for a couple of months, and over time, the OS began to run slower and slower, to the point it will not boot...
[02:18] <doug_> I've run a SMART check, and all is ok
[02:18] <urlin2u> doug_, can you be more descriptive like if you have other OS's and what led to this.
[02:18] <doug_> I'm using my mythbuntu partition right now, which has no problems
[02:18] <urlin2u> doug_, is it ubuntu or mythbuntu?
[02:18] <holstein> doug_: i would fsck it from a live CD
[02:19] <_Tristan> ubuntu just needs this ext4 partition and linux swap, right? If I delete everything else and resize it to fit, then install grub, this will work right?
[02:19] <_Tristan> (I don't need windows)
[02:19] <doug_> I did that, and when I fsck the partition, it locks up with no results
[02:19] <Ben64> _Tristan: depends how you install grub
[02:19] <holstein> doug_: i would troubleshoot that then...
[02:20] <_Tristan> Ben64: so how do I install grub
[02:20] <Ben64> !grub
[02:20] <its_me> _Tristan: If you don't need Windows, you can re-install Ubuntu again on the whole hard disk, removing Windows entirely
[02:20] <urlin2u> _Tristan, the UEFI is aproblem that can be removed I believe
[02:20] <Ben64> _Tristan: or what its_me said
[02:20] <doug_> I've had this problem in the past... Would it matter if im running the HD on a GUID setup?
[02:20] <urlin2u> If you want windows gone _Tristan
[02:21] <devsys> Hey guys, quick question I am running ubuntu 11.10 server and want to make sure I have my web root secured. When I do a ps -aux | grep apache, I see that apache2 is running as user www-data. The confusing thing is if I do a ls -lah on /var/www, www-data is not listed as a user or group -- root is listed as the group. I checked /etc/groups and it isnt a member of the root group. The webserver works and serves files, just a little confused
[02:22] <devsys> It's prettu much a outof the box install
[02:22] <doug_> if fsck is not working, how would I troubleshoot that?
[02:22] <Ben64> devsys: www-data doesn't need to own files to read them
[02:22] <Ben64> doug_: what is the error
[02:23] <holstein> doug_: if fsck half-way worked, and stopped, or i thought it stopped, and i stopped it, i would expect some problems
[02:23] <tigrang> When I put my Samsung RV515 laptop to standby and resume, all I get is a black screen, no backlight. My dmesg log says "hash matches /build/buildd/linux-3.0.0/drivers/base/power/main.c:587" but theres no hash device for me to go on. Is there anything else I can do to debug this?
[02:24] <flowerpot> does ubuntu cache dns results locally by default in 11.10?
[02:24] <egarega> tigrang: what version are you using?
[02:24] <holstein> tigrang: i would try a different kernel.. you can usually test that from live CD's too
[02:24] <tigrang> egarega: 11.10
[02:24] <tigrang> current kernel is 3.0.0-15-generic
[02:24] <doug_> Ben64_: when I try to boot the partition, I get nothing, just a blinking cursor. When I run fsck, the test locks up and I have to hard restart
[02:24] <egarega> Did you get this with earlier kernels?
[02:25] <Ben64> doug_: run fsck with -v
[02:25] <eguen> jo
[02:25] <tigrang> egarega: I had 3.0.0-12 before, didn't work. Havent tried any other
[02:25] <bagels_> Hi evrywun!
[02:26] <doug_> Ben64_:  Ill try that. Also, when I tried to do a rcovery, it came up with a kernel panic, a VFS error i believe
[02:26] <holstein> tigrang: i would want to try 10.04.. the last LTS (long term support)
[02:26] <bagels_> Does anyone know a way to burn an mp3 playlist into an mp3 data cd?  Looking on google doesn't give me much useful info.
[02:27] <holstein> bagels_: an mp3 data CD is just that.. just the data files.. if you have the mp3's, just drag them over on a data layout in the order of the playlist
[02:27] <tigrang> holstein: can I just use the kernel version 10.04 uses? And do you know which one that is?
[02:28] <bagels_> holstein the point would be I make a playlist, then burn it without having to recreate the playlist by hunting through different folders to find the ding dang songs manually
[02:28] <holstein> tigrang: i wouldnt even bother with that.. i would literally load up the live CD and check.. but i usually take the hard drive out of machines like that and test from CD so i can force powerdown or whatever
[02:29] <tigrang> holstein: try puting the computer to sleep from the live cd?
[02:29] <holstein> bagels_: right.. but the burner wont care about that playlist...
[02:29] <bagels_> holstein, you know how Brasero makes CD's from playlist?
[02:30] <holstein> tigrang: like i said, you can usually sleep from live CD's and test that just fine.. thats on my normal routine that i do with new machines
[02:30] <holstein> bagels_: sure.. but not data discs from audio playlists AFAIK..
[02:30] <tigrang> holstein: ok, ill try
[02:30] <bagels_> holstein I'm looking to burn 3 hours on one disc.  I know brasero doesn't, but it's you know, a pain to sift through all your music folders
[02:31] <bagels_> I mean if anyone's got a better idea
[02:31] <nelson_> where is panish ubuntu??
[02:31] <holstein> bagels_: if i did i would suggest it.. you can ask in #opensourcemusicians
[02:31] <urlin2u> !es
[02:31] <urlin2u> nelson_, ^^^
[02:32] <bagels_> holstein, there is no such channel, I just tried to /join #opensourcemusicians
[02:33] <holstein> bagels_: ill just paste it right from irssi 2:freenode/#opensourcemusicians
[02:34] <bagels_> 2:freenode/#opensourcemusicians
[02:34] <bagels_> all right now I'm confused.
[02:34] <telnetter> hi all. got a book from the library to learn from. it's a guide to ubuntu. but it's 8.04/8.10 version. Is this book too old, or will it still give me a good beginners guide to how this linux stuff works any how?
[02:34] <negative> bagels_:  type '/join #opensourcemusicians' in your status tab to join
[02:34] <Ben64> telnetter: its quite old
[02:35] <holstein> bagels_: i just copied it right from my irssi window so i was sure not to typo.. you can cut and paste too.. im not an op so i cant invite you :/
[02:35] <bagels_> negative I did type it and I got this: * opensourcemusicians :No such channel
[02:35] <telnetter> Ben64, is it not worth reading at all?
[02:36] <Ben64> telnetter: the linux stuff would still apply, but the ubuntu specific stuff won't be relevant most likely
[02:36] <negative> telnetter: you would probably benefit more from a newer guide
[02:36] <telnetter> any recommendations for a book? I am recently unemployed, so funds are tight. thanx
[02:37] <Ben64> telnetter: what are you trying to learn
[02:37] <negative> telnetter: what is your goal?
[02:37] <webirc1419> hi im trying to adjust brightness of my laptop screen i tried the system settings  power settings there is no display brightness option there. i've installed redshift for temporary relief
[02:37] <doug_> Ben64_: ok, fsck -v came back with "dev/sda3 contains a file system with errors. check forced." and then locked up.
[02:38] <telnetter> Ben64, I want to learn how linux works. I am new at this but hope to learn it well enough to do scripting, and perhaps system admin type stuff. maybe it will help me get a better job.
[02:38] <Ben64> doug_: you sure it locked up? it won't always say things all the time
[02:38] <doug_> yes, i'm sure. the mouse stopped working as well
[02:38] <holstein> bagels_: not sure what to tell you.. i pinged an op to have you invited.. i assure you im there..
[02:39] <negative> telnetter: does your library have a subscription to SafariBooksOnline?
[02:39] <holstein> bagels_: you need the #... /join #opensourcemusicians
[02:39] <Ben64> telnetter: google is a good place to find information, and pretty much any linux book would have good information
[02:39] <telnetter> negative, I can order books from the libary but it takes a week. If you guys can recommend a book, it may help better than just a google search.
[02:40] <webirc1419> is there a different ubuntu chan that might be able to help me?
[02:40] <Ben64> telnetter: order books? why not go to the library and grab some?
[02:41] <telnetter> Ben64, my library had the ubuntu 8.x book, thats it!
[02:41] <omit72> hey all. im building a server for my home network on an eeepc1005hab using ubuntu server. im going to be installing to a 4GB sdhc card to allow easier swapping of the internal hard drive.  what is the appropriate amount of swap space to use for this build?
[02:41] <doug_> Ben64_: It seems every time I try to mount that partition from my other linux partition, it locks up as well. any ideas?
[02:41] <Ben64> telnetter: it doesn't have to be ubuntu
[02:42] <negative> telnetter: Do you have any previous experience with programming? I'm looking at possible recommendations
[02:43] <telnetter> negative, I don't have any programming experience, no. I worked in tech support
[02:45] <itgeo> hi, i created a file custom.menu how can i get the menu structure into my kmenu
[02:45] <joosengee> hi
[02:46] <joosengee> anyone had the problem with ubuntu 11.10
[02:46] <joosengee> I can't delete or save files on the external harddisk
[02:46] <negative> telnetter: that's fine. if your goal is to get started with administration, you might want to request "Essential Linux® Administration: A Comprehensive Guide for Beginners" (1-4354-5956-3)
[02:46] <HeathHome> Hey, how do I change PHP's ./configure when I installed using apt-get?
[02:46] <subb1> 'Update Manager' shows nvidia driver updates which is not relevant for me. But every time manager is started, they come along in the list. How to remove such unwanted driver updates. (there is no nvidia ppa that i have added though)
[02:47] <negative> subb1: what's the name of the package?
[02:47] <joosengee> someone help me please?
[02:47] <itgeo> joosengee: did you deleted your in graphic mode or from the terminale
[02:47] <joosengee> as same about the terminate and graphic mode
[02:48] <joosengee> But if I used the ubuntu 12.04
[02:48] <subb1> negative, nvidia-173-modaliases, nvidia-93-modaliases, nvidia-current-modaliases.
[02:48] <joosengee> it can?
[02:48] <telnetter> negative, thanks.
[02:49] <joosengee> Someone help me?
[02:49] <subb1> negative, gimp also comes along everytime. don't want that also.
[02:49] <itgeo> joosengee:  try with sudo rm from the terminale
[02:49] <joosengee> someone have this problem.
[02:49] <joosengee> it 's also can delete.
[02:49] <joosengee> it shone read only.
[02:50] <negative> have you tried apt-get clean autoclean?
[02:50] <joosengee> But now ubuntu 12.04 has so many bugs.
[02:51] <joosengee> I can't use teamviewer run in that.
[02:51] <bazhang> joosengee, #ubuntu+1 for that, NOT here
[02:51] <joosengee> And can't install dropbox also.
[02:52] <negative> subb1: did you 'apt-get clean autoclean'?
[02:53] <subb1> negative, no. I'll try
[02:54] <subb1> negative, they still appear
[02:54] <aaron_> hi
[02:56] <negative> subb1: hm. what repository are they coming from?
[02:57] <subb1> negative, LP-PPA-ubuntu-x-swat-x-updates
[02:57] <subb1> negative, the nvidia comes from there
[03:00] <negative> subb1: is there a reason you subscribed to that ppa?
[03:01] <jed852> Hello.  Am looking for some assistance with unpacking and installing a tar.bz2 for my new wireless adapter
[03:01] <illidari> I recently installed ubuntu and trying to pair a wii controller to the bluetooth and having little success. I got it to randomly work in wmgui in unbuntu but cant get it to work outside of wmgui. I can connect it fine on my windows 7 os , anyone have any suggestions?
[03:02] <subb1> negative: I think i added it during my radeon driver installation. its mentioned here > http://wiki.cchtml.com/index.php/Ubuntu_Lucid_Installation_Guide#Ubuntu_X_Team.27s_PPA
[03:03] <jed852> To be more specific I am installing a Alfa AWUS036NH wireless adapter.  I have blacklisted my integrated drivers which has me to where I am no longer being able to connect wifi.  I have attempted to unpack 2 seperate tar.bz2 files and execute make.  But when I execute make I get an error =/
[03:03] <negative> jed852: what error
[03:03] <javierf_> Hi! I installed rhythmbox in ubuntu 11.10 but it comes with no plugins (a month ago, when I installed it, it had many of them, like showing cover art). What can be happening? Someone knows how to install them=
[03:04] <xangua> javierf_: F9 to show sidebar
[03:05] <negative> subb1: well the easy way would be to just remove the ppa and then 'apt-get update' but it's not ideal
[03:05] <javierf_> xangua, ops, but sidebar is there all the time. But no cover art. If I go to plugins/extensions, there is nothing there, and I remember there used to be many of them
[03:05] <jed852> With this tarball I get a Linux 1 error.  cp: cannot create regular file '/tftpboot' : Permission denied
[03:06] <subb1> negative, I assume there is no way to specifically remove a package provided by PPAs?
[03:06] <negative> jed852: are you sudo?
[03:06] <xangua> javierf_: then go to software center and install the plugins you want that are listed in rhythmbox
[03:06] <javierf_> xangua, I think something goes wrong in the instalation after I unistalled it once, because not I have no plugins, there is no indicator... I tried normal install and from repositories
[03:06] <jed852> ah I did not try sudo make
[03:07] <jed852> hrmm ok sudo make ran with no errors
[03:07] <xangua> !info rhythmbox-plugins | javierf_
[03:08] <jed852> lsmod not showing the module do i need to reboot?
[03:09] <negative> subb1: in the way that you want, not as far as I know. you could always install and then apt-get remove them, but that's a pain
[03:10] <javierf_> xangua, thanks, they were there :) One more question. I would like to install third-party plugin coverflow, which normally is installed in .gnome2 folder. But my rythmbox version is 2.95, which is GTK3. Is there a problem then?
[03:10] <xangua> javierf_: no idea about that plugin
[03:11] <xangua> gnome2 is dead... well at least no longer maintained
[03:11] <javierf_> xangua, ok. Just thought it might be for GTK2 not 3 if it's installed in .gnome2, but don't know if I'm wrong
[03:11] <lotrpy> what about python 2, is it dead too.
[03:16] <aaron_> hi
[03:16] <negative> hi aaron_
[03:17] <subb1> negative, okay. thanks for help :)
[03:18] <negative> subb1: no problem. good luck
[03:19] <shafeeqes> how to install classic desktop in ubuntu 11.10 ??
[03:19] <samurai2> FloodBot
[03:19] <xangua> !nounity | shafeeqes
[03:20] <jed852> So the one tar file went through with no errors using sudo make but still no wifi.  Tried rebooting, unplugging wifi adapter etc.  Try to run a sudo make on the other tarball which is the newer one and get errors during make.  Stuff like expected UCHAR ** but argument is of type 'UCHAR *"  also a Linux Error 2
[03:21] <jed852> Warning : operation on 'Tab-> BssOverlapNR' may be undefined [-Wsequence-point]
[03:21] <upon> is there a nice ubuntu newb guide i can check out
[03:22] <cfhowlett> !manual|upon
[03:22] <holstein> upon: really depends on what you are doing... the wiki's are great.. i would try and get a task, and sort out the how-to's
[03:23] <upon> essentially, ive got this netbook -- it had windows 7 on it, couldnt open a web browser in under 3 min... put ubuntu on it -- got minecraft... now im here
[03:23] <mikej2> Anyone here used live-boot with Ubuntu? I'm having some problems with creating a network boot image with a plain chroot filesystem (squashfs just works).
[03:24] <illidari> anyone good with bluetooth in ubuntu, trying to connect wii controller and it fails to pair instantly
[03:26] <siobhan> hi
[03:26] <skilz> Hey I have a question to ask, I installed 'tropic-gdm-theme' But the theme is still the same after rebooting?
[03:26] <skilz> its the default ubuntu background
[03:26] <cfhowlett> skilz: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HAEm7AjkCFE
[03:27] <xangua> skilz: ubuntu oneiric no longer uses gdm, you'd have to install gdm i guess
[03:27] <skilz> This is what I am seeing... http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-sP03tOYz4v8/TjEX-mNrMvI/AAAAAAAAFi0/PLS0VUtgMIQ/s2000/gdm3_ubuntu_11.10_oneiric_ocelot.png
[03:28] <skilz> Thats my login screen, what is that and how do I change it?
[03:28] <skilz> It's really annoying me, I have been stuck on this for ages now
[03:30] <Oer> illidari, there is a tool wiican >> http://www.addictivetips.com/ubuntu-linux-tips/wiccan-maps-your-wiimote-to-ubuntu-linux-for-remote-control/
[03:31] <holstein> skilz: just enter your password and you'll be over it ;) ..try http://it-diary.com/linux/ubuntu-linux/tweak-ubuntu-11-10-login-screen-lightdm-manager/
[03:31] <jed852> Only thing confusing me in this tarball readme is it says to define the GCC and LD of the target machine.. What exactly does that mean?  I opened the specified file and located the GCC and LD section, but not sure what to enter
[03:31] <Oer> illidari, it is in softwarecentre, so no need for external download
[03:34] <Yabden> that wonderful feeling of cut up hands from old PC cases
[03:34]  * satyanash looks at his bandages..
[03:34] <amazingrando> is there a way to rsync or scp to multiple systems at once if they have the same user/login?
[03:35] <amazingrando> i want to send one new directory to several systems
[03:35] <negative> amazingrando: if you're using keys, you could throw a bash script together pretty easily
[03:36] <satyanash> amazingrando, you re probably not the only one wanting to do that, running one command on several servers at the same time.. try googling, I'm sure you'll find it..
[03:36] <amazingrando> i was looking for a shortcut so i wouldn't have to write a scripts, but i can do that
[03:36] <satyanash> hmm..
[03:37] <amazingrando> googling it has been a pain.  i always get answers for mulitple files, not multiple systems
[03:37] <Yabden> I recall that there is a specific way to do it, but I don't remember how
[03:37] <amazingrando> yabden - do you remember which tool it was.  i can look through documentation if you know which
[03:38] <Yabden> sorry, I don't remember
[03:38] <amazingrando> np, thx
[03:38] <negative> amazingrando: there might very well be, but the script could simply be scp -r $1 <server1>; scp -r $1 <server2>; etc.
[03:39] <negative> amazingrando: where $1 is the name of the folder you list as the first argument
[03:39] <amazingrando> thanks, i've been doing scp -r but I was hoping for something more elegant
[03:40] <negative> I've been called many things, but elegant was never one of them :(
[03:40] <amazingrando> me either
[03:40] <amazingrando> i'm doing it russian style - brute force
[03:41] <meoblast001> hi
[03:41] <meoblast001> i'm using the gnome-classic session, and accidentally put a link in my top bar
[03:41] <meoblast001> the problem is, when i right click it, there's no remove option
[03:41] <xangua> meoblast001: alt+drag, or something like that
[03:42] <meoblast001> oh, alt+right click
[03:42] <meoblast001> xangua: thanks :)
[03:43] <xsinicklaptop> is that alt+right on the main menu
[03:43] <xsinicklaptop> tool bar
[03:43] <xsinicklaptop> ?
[03:43] <meoblast001> i just did that on the item i wanted to remove
[03:43] <meoblast001> seems you can remove an entire toolbar that way
[03:44] <meoblast001> if you select the toolbar
[03:47] <xsinicklaptop> anyone used blender on a dual screen?
[03:47] <guest-sRaXrr> Hi, is there a channel I can ask about programs like John?
[03:59] <linocisco> lhi all
[03:59] <linocisco> is anyone using ubuntu-server on vbox?
[04:00] <holstein> linocisco: i have... i had "fakebook" at a school where they couldnt use facebook :)
[04:01] <linocisco> holstein, what is the purpose of fakebook with my question?
[04:01] <holstein> linocisco: i just thought i would elaborate a bit rather than just saying "yes"
[04:05] <mavrick95> people, please, i need help for the following issue: after purging fglrx and xorg, tryiing to solve the black screen issue, i reboot the computer but it again goes to black screen after ubuntu splash. please...
[04:05] <holstein> mavrick95: see if there is an xorg.conf in /etc/X11... try the recovery console
[04:06] <urlin2u> holstein, hehe you said fakebook. ;)
[04:06] <holstein> urlin2u: :) ...it was ubuntuserver with wordpress running the buddypress plugin
[04:08] <urlin2u> holstein, yeah, when I hear fakebook I think of another actual compositions book.
[04:08] <linocisco> who has experience using ubuntu server on virutal box?
[04:08] <holstein> linocisco: i do..
[04:08] <urlin2u> ;)
[04:09] <linocisco> holstein, host is linux or windows?
[04:09] <holstein> linocisco: i have done both
[04:09] <holstein> i have not done the headless vbox yet though
[04:09] <linocisco> holstein,  I am going to install vbox on windows XP , will host ubuntu-server on it
[04:09] <holstein> urlin2u: ond of the kids came up with the name, and didnt know about the jazz fakebooks at all
[04:10] <holstein> linocisco: sure.. congratulations!
[04:10] <urlin2u> holstein, ;)
[04:10] <linocisco> holstein, i hope you could kindly guide me or suggest me in case i need help.
[04:11] <holstein> linocisco: sure.. theres not much to it... you just install Vbox, and its got a rather clear GUI... download the server iso and go for it.. you'll likely want to read about the netorking so the guest OS gets a normal IP from the router or gateway... thats bridged i believe
[04:12] <monstercookie> alias foobar='ls'; echo 'type foobar' > ~/__Z.sh; sh ~/__Z.sh <--produces an error, why?
[04:12] <verdav> I am such a new newbie that I've gotta to ask how in heck in Ubuntu 11.1 do I adjust the theme, color of my folers, headers, font size etc ?
[04:12] <linocisco> holstein, default is NAT. I thought.
[04:13] <holstein> linocisco: thats why i mentioned it.. that setting *wont* get you an IP from the gateway.. you wont be able to easily forward ports to the guest as if it were on the actually network
[04:14] <linocisco> holstein, that is why vboxonly host adapter
[04:14] <Katronix> Hi all, I'm looking for a version of NAnt that is for linux and is version .86 or higher. So far I have only found one that requires Windows or Mono, can someone suggest where I should look?
[04:15] <holstein> linocisco: its just a loose suggestion to review the documentation on netorking.. seems like you know what you are doing
[04:16] <linocisco> holstein, yes. as our office is only allowing windows machine, i m thinking to use/try/test ubuntu server on vbox
[04:16] <kindkid> Finally found a ridiculous solution to my problem. I was trying to find a way to boot any of the cloud images (http://cloud-images.ubuntu.com/releases/11.10/release/) in VirtualBox. Kept getting errors related to ahci module. Solution: In addition to using the -floppy file as a CD iso, I also mounted the .vdi image (converted from .img using VBoxManage) on… the IDE controller instead of the SATA controller. I removed the SATA
[04:16] <trism> verdav: install gnome-tweak-tool, although it only has control for the themes and fonts, not colors like the old appearance settings
[04:17] <batbrat> Hi. I've run into some trouble using my external HDD with ubuntu. I was wondering if someone here could help me troubleshoot.
[04:19] <batbrat> Also, if this is the wrong thing to ask on this channel, please do let me know where I can get some help. I'll provide specifics as soon as I'm sure this isn't considered off topic on this channel.
[04:19] <negative> batbrat: what's the probalem
[04:19] <rf5> hi guys im trying to activate the http of my server but im in trouble. i already instaled the apache2 what else should i do
[04:19] <Katronix> anyone?
[04:19] <batbrat> My external HDD, Seagate, 500MB USB drive doesn't show up in Nautilus. The drive LED is blinking. lsusb shows the disk alright
[04:20] <batbrat> I tried sudo mount -l and that doesn't show it either
[04:20] <holstein> Katronix: you can look for PPA's
[04:20] <holstein> rf5: is this a desktop as well? can you navigate to localhost and see it? can you see it locally with the IP address?
[04:20] <negative> batbrat: when you plug in, does it show in your /media ?
[04:21] <batbrat> Ah! Didn't check. Give me a second to see if it is in /media
[04:21] <darksmurf> Any way to configure, via command line, wlan0 without iwconfig?
[04:21] <rf5> its a online server. im able to wget stuff tho, but i wanna use it to host some stuff
[04:21] <rf5> holstein: i just have ssh access to it
[04:21] <batbrat> The only thing on my /media is apt. On an aside, the drive LED is now glowing steady, like it usually does whuen it is working
[04:22] <holstein> rf5: see that apache is running... you'll need port 80 open... other than that, try #ubuntu-server
[04:23] <batbrat> negative: I'm sure my other drives will show up on /media once mounted.
[04:23] <batbrat> This one doesn't
[04:23] <batbrat> Definitely doesn't show up.
[04:23] <rf5> in the ps its showing apache
[04:24] <negative> batbrat: hm. and the drive definitely works on other systems?
[04:24]  * batbrat keeps his fingers crossed
[04:24] <wildbat> anyone know is there is way to set persistent cache for SSHFS say i preconfg the cache on disk 100M?
[04:24] <batbrat> Well, I just checked on another machine
[04:24] <batbrat> Doesn't work there
[04:24] <batbrat> I literally just tested it there. Ouch CRC failed
[04:25] <batbrat> negative: I don't know if this is a hardware issue or not, but I know that the CRC cheksum being wrong is bad
[04:26] <batbrat> negative: Also, that machine kept trying to get me to format it. Any ideas on how to work around this and recover my data? I suspect that the partition table may be dead. Windows box - says that hte file system is "RAW"
[04:26] <negative> batbrat: the fact that it's not working on the other system and the checksum is wrong seems to point to hardware
[04:26] <batbrat> negative: In that case, I had better recover my data. I have no idea how to go about that though. Any advise?
[04:27] <negative> what filesystem, btw?
[04:27] <batbrat> negative: I think it was NTFS originally.
[04:27] <rf5> hi guys im trying to activate the http of my server but im in trouble. i already instaled the apache2 what else should i do, im running it in a virtual server.
[04:28] <holstein> rf5: you'll need to check with you host about the port 80 access
[04:28] <rf5> how do i check in iptables if the port 80 is blocked?
[04:28] <negative> batbrat: since it's NTFS, do you have access to a windows machine?
[04:28] <holstein> rf5: if you know what firewall, you can add a rule.. sudo ufw allow 80 or whatever
[04:28] <batbrat> There is also the minute possibility that it was FAT32. That is rather unlikely though. It's been a while since I used this drive. But it has absolutely vital data. It's my backup drive. My original copy of the data is beyond recovery at the moment and through no fault of my own.
[04:29] <batbrat> Yes, I do have access to a windows machine.
[04:29] <skilz> How can I install old GDM?
[04:29] <skilz> The one that supports themes and ubuntu tweak?
[04:30] <holstein> skilz: maybe you want ubuntu 10.04
[04:30] <skilz> yeah
[04:30] <holstein> though, ive been told tweak can really break things
[04:31] <batbrat> holstein, skilz: Out of curiousity, what is tweak. I don't think I've used it before.
[04:31] <negative> batbrat:  data recovery in this context is not something I'm really comfortable with. My best advice is to try mounting it on a windows machine. sorry, wish I could be of more help
[04:31] <mavrick95> holstein: hi, i have checked and ther is no xorg.con file in /etc/X11
[04:31] <holstein> batbrat: think of it like a GUI for all kinds of tweaking... PPA's, package purges... things that can break other things for sure
[04:31] <mavrick95> holstein: hi, i have checked and there is no xorg.conf file in /etc/X11
[04:31] <batbrat> negative: Ah! I've tried that and run into a host of issues.
[04:31] <batbrat> holstein: Thanks
[04:32] <batbrat> negative: I mean I tried it now. I ran into issues mounting, then into issues running chkdsk
[04:32] <batbrat> negative: Thanks for the help anyway.
[04:32] <holstein> mavrick95: OK... so, you can put one there forcing the vesa driver... you can try the recovery console
[04:32] <mavrick95> holstein: i had already deleted it while booting from liveUSB
[04:33] <goddard> whats the best video converter and what is the smalest
[04:33] <skilz> Virtual packages like 'gdm3' can't be removed
[04:33] <skilz> ????
[04:33] <mavrick95> holstein: i can access  my hard drive via liveUSB, and then create an xorg.conf in the folder /etc/X11 , but i dont know what instructions to write in it so the standard drivers are loaded
[04:34] <holstein> mavrick95: i usually get a knoppix live CD, load that up, and copy the xorg.conf from it... editing as needed... but you should also be able to create one from the recovery console
[04:37] <mavrick95> holstein: i did not understand.  in the filesystem of the liveUSB (when i select to run the OS from the USB drive) there is no /etc/X11/Xorg.conf file, so I can not just copy from there to my hard drive
[04:37] <goddard> anyone home?
[04:38] <mavrick95> holstein: do you know any other way? i mean, can i download a "healthy" xorg.conf file and place it there?
[04:38] <holstein> mavrick95: correct.. thats why i say, you can use the recovery console to create one, or like i do, get a knoppix live CD and copy it from there
[04:38] <holstein> mavrick95: i have found them occasionally by google searching the card name
[04:38] <negative> goddard: what are you converting to and from?
[04:39] <zivester> whats the command to to show package versions... i know `sudo apt-cache search packagename` but how do i also display the version?
[04:44] <Pupuser> Hello, Linux noob here. Does anyone know if I can use wubi to install any other ubuntu distro or remix, like server, or one I configure myself?
[04:46] <negative> Pupuser: It's doable to use wubi with ubuntu server, but not recommended.
[04:47] <holstein> Pupuser: yeah, you'd be better off with virtualbox
[04:47] <holstein> assuming you have the resources... i should say
[04:47] <ubuntu-0854> keep the puppy!
[04:47] <Pupuser> lol
[04:48] <negative> you could also use VMware
[04:49] <Pupuser> ok, but I can use it for a customized remix that I create from my own install?
[04:50] <negative> Pupuser: I'm not sure what you mean by customized remix
[04:51] <EvilResistance> negative, i think he wants to have a customized version of the installer for wubi...
[04:52] <holstein> if you have the resources, you can virtualize whatever you like in Vbox or VMware
[04:52] <ubuntu-0854> Pupuser,  Just burn a customized iso and boot
[04:52] <Pupuser> So, if I install ubuntu, remove and add packages, change settings, etc., can I then save that to an ISO or live cd to use elsewhere?
[04:52] <negative> you can save it in your vmware virtualbox install
[04:53] <negative> *vmware OR vbox (two different things)
[04:53] <ubuntu-0854> Pupuser, ya but ya goota use software to get it all saved right
[04:53] <ubuntu-0854> Pupuser, If it where slackware like puppy you could just mod it up.  ubuntu works off dkpg
[04:54] <ubuntu-0854> custom hardware settings etc
[04:54] <negative> Pupuser: maybe I'm misunderstanding you. Are you using this on only one machine, or do you want to take it to others as well?
[04:55] <mpabst> i notice that when i go to sound settings (11.10), i can increase the main volume past 100%. is there a way i can permanently set "100%" to be higher?
[04:56] <Pupuser> I would like to make changes, then save them to a disk I can then use to boot up or install from, with everything the same, on different machines, or to give to other people.
[04:56] <ramsta> hi, what are some alternatives to skype?
[04:56] <holstein> Pupuser: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LiveCDCustomization
[04:56] <ubuntu-0854> pup you can used isomaster to add packages to the download file and run a quick script to dkpg
[04:57] <mavrick95> holstein: i followed the following commands while in root terminal during recovery mode: "X -configure" and "cp /root/xorg.conf.new /etc/X11/xorg.conf". Rebooted, but the black screen continues...
[04:57] <negative> ramsta: you could try QuteCom http://trac.qutecom.org/
[04:58] <mavrick95> holstein: to have or not an xorg.conf file makes little difference, imho.
[04:58] <holstein> mavrick95: you can try forcing the vesa driver there though... in the driver section... change it to vesa
[04:58] <Pupuser> I'm completely new to Linux, don't know too much about scripting and stuff.
[04:59] <mavrick95> holstein: i am not an advanced user, i dont know where and how to do that
[04:59] <roasted> hello! Can someone explain to me what happens with Ubuntu populating host names of samba machines on the network? Reason I ask is my HTPC has a samba share. If I go on my mac immediately after booting up and do smb://htpc, it works fine. On my ubuntu laptop, nope. I HAVE to use IP address. Why is that?
[04:59] <linocisco> hi i want to install vbox on ubuntu without internet
[04:59] <mavrick95> holstein: that is why i need help from the ubuntu official channel
[04:59] <skilz> How can I remove gdm3?
[04:59] <linocisco> i have downloaded .deb file. but installation not ok
[04:59] <skilz> Virtual packages like 'gdm3' can't be removed
[04:59] <skilz> 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 7 not upgraded.
[05:00] <skilz> I done sudo apt-get remove gdm3
[05:00] <holstein> mavrick95: it'll be pretty obvious though... the driver section... just change it to vesa.. and this *is* the official channel
[05:00] <mister2> anybody know a utility to print a file tree to a text file?
[05:00] <urlin2u> linocisco, you can download the deb a virtualbox I believe
[05:00] <urlin2u> at
[05:00] <linocisco> urlin2u, i tried to install with that
[05:00] <Pupuser> I saw that Puppy has a way to save everything like that, but it's too limited. was wanting to do the same thing with ubuntu...
[05:00] <linocisco> urlin2u, not ok
[05:00] <urlin2u> linocisco, what happened?
[05:00] <flyback> 3 years+ and they still can't fix the volume profile for dell precision m90
[05:01] <flyback> at this rate I will get laid first and I am 38
[05:01] <linocisco> urlin2u,  i could not find in software center or apps. mine is 11.10
[05:01] <negative> Pupuser: have you taken a look at http://uck.sourceforge.net/?
[05:01] <negative> Pupuser: * http://uck.sourceforge.net/
[05:01] <bazhang> flyback, thats not appropriate for here
[05:01] <mavrick95> holstein: i can not get to the desktop, unless in text mode, and i am sincerely not understanding where i can find the drivers section
[05:01] <urlin2u> linocisco, install gdebi and uuse it to install with
[05:01] <mister2> hrm, internet issues or dead channel?
[05:01] <flyback> neither is bug fixing apprentely
[05:01] <bazhang> !bugs | flyback file one then
[05:02] <urlin2u> linocisco, you have no internet at all with the computer
[05:02] <linocisco> urlin2u, gdebi and install with it using internet?
[05:02] <flyback> it's been long files by many people
[05:02] <linocisco> urlin2u, right no internet with ubuntu computer
[05:02] <flyback> no one seems to care
[05:02] <urlin2u> linocisco, not sure then.
[05:02] <flyback> so I am just writing it off at this point
[05:02] <linocisco> urlin2u,  i m thinking to download complete installer from windows machine at work now i m using and take it home and install in on my ubuntu computer
[05:02] <holstein> mavrick95: in that xorg.conf file we were discussing.. you can open it ... gksudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf then look for the drivers section and change it to vesa
[05:03] <Pupuser> that UCK looks like it might do the trick. Thank you! :)
[05:03] <bazhang> flyback, thats your choice. this is not the complaints channel, but the troubleshooting channel
[05:03] <flyback> yeah doesn't really matter anymore
[05:03] <mavrick95> holstein: ok, i will try that now. i just hope that the xorg.conf file i created is not empty :/
[05:03] <flyback> adding this to the things in life I have given up on, including life itself
[05:04] <holstein> mavrick95: you can also grab them from the live CD's like knoppix or puppy.. i like that becuase i can see that it is working when i grab it
[05:06] <urlin2u> linocisco, I tried looking for a tar.gz that would make it straight forward, I don't see one but there may be one on the web if you look.
[05:06] <mavrick95> holstein: yeah, me too. i think it is kinda because i came from windowsXP OS, so i tend to trust more when i drag and drop.
[05:07] <linocisco> urlin2u, installing with tarball is offline. but I dont know where to extract
[05:07] <urlin2u> linocisco, it would just be a cd make install I assume
[05:08] <OLIVESrGOOD> hello?
[05:08] <Civil> Does anybody knows if ubuntu lucid's initrd can understand root on nested lvm?
[05:08] <linocisco> urlin2u, for exammple , if i got vbox.tgz., i put it on desktop generally, but when I run to extract, where should I put or extract to?
[05:08] <roasted> hello! Can someone explain to me what happens with Ubuntu populating host names of samba machines on the network? Reason I ask is my HTPC has a samba share. If I go on my mac immediately after booting up and do smb://htpc, it works fine. On my ubuntu laptop, nope. I HAVE to use IP address. Why is that?
[05:09] <urlin2u> linocisco, I just download the deb to downloads it is in Downloads and with a right click open with the ubuntu softwrae center it is there ready for reinstall I have it already.
[05:10] <urlin2u> linocisco, I think the deb will work to be honest with the softwrae center, not sure of the problems you had.
[05:10] <skilz> 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 7 not upgraded.
[05:10] <skilz> How can I remove gdm3?
[05:10] <skilz> How can I remove gdm3?
[05:10] <skilz> I done sudo apt-get remove gdm3
[05:10] <FloodBot1> skilz: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[05:11] <skilz> Virtual packages like 'gdm3' can't be removed
[05:12] <holstein> skilz: maybe try synaptic
[05:12] <negative> skilz: is it a .deb?
[05:13] <mavrick95> holstein: i opened it and there are two "section 'device'": in the firt one the driver is "fbdev" and the other is actually the "vesa" one, but i tried reboot and the black screen issue continues
[05:13] <negative> skilz: actually, disregard. have you tried 'dpkg -r gdm3' ?
[05:13] <Afdal> Hello, I'm trying to install Xubuntu and I'm having trouble getting GRUB Loader to install.
[05:14] <negative> Afdal: what's the problem?
[05:14] <holstein> mavrick95: not sure what to tell you.. if you specify the vesa driver properly it has to work
[05:14] <Afdal> I'm running on a hardware RAID0 partition
[05:14] <Afdal> and I keep running into this fatal error
[05:14] <Afdal> Executing 'grub-install /dev/sda' failed.
[05:14] <Afdal> Executing 'grub-install /dev/mapper/etcetc/' failed.
[05:15] <Afdal> /dev/sda isn't a real partition and I can choose other ones
[05:15] <Afdal> but it gives the same error
[05:16] <goddard> negative: im trying to convert some wmv and mov files
[05:16] <goddard> i found ffmegg
[05:17] <goddard> ffmepg
[05:17] <goddard> that seems to convert the suckers
[05:17] <goddard> but the quality it spits out is horrible
[05:17] <goddard> im trying to get the quality to stay about the same but smaller file size
[05:18] <negative> goddard: are you specifying a bitrate?
[05:18] <goddard> negative: im new to this whole thing so any advice is welcome
[05:19] <negative> when you call ffmpeg, you can use the '-b' switch to specify the bitrate
[05:19] <negative> higher bitrate -> higher quality
[05:20] <goddard> it says if i set a bit rate i have to specify buffer
[05:20] <goddard> how do i know what these should be?
[05:20] <Civil> goddard: try to read about x264 and it's parameters. In theory you can acheive high quality and small video size, but your enconding performance will be slow...
[05:20] <bazhang> skilz, are you trying to remove gnome3-session?
[05:20] <Bsims> any beefs with sandybridge on a current Natty?
[05:20] <urlin2u> linocisco, so I got virtualbox to reinstall from the downloaded deb in the software center.
[05:21] <negative> can you show us how you call ffmpeg?
[05:21] <bazhang> Bsims, check launchpad for bugs
[05:21] <goddard> negative: i was just reading the man page
[05:21] <Bsims> bazhang: did, all are from a year ago
[05:21] <goddard> negative: whats a good bit rate to try?
[05:21] <Afdal> Is there a channel for GRUB loader...
[05:22] <goddard> Civil: ok
[05:22] <skilz> bazhang, I want to remove the login manage so I can use the original gdm
[05:22] <negative> Afdal: have you checked out this guide https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/SoftwareRAID ?
[05:22] <skilz> and set themes
[05:22] <urlin2u> linocisco, hars to say if there was a download at the same time I didn't look at the downloads in conky, but the deb installs with gdebi generally when  use it, I suspect you have dependencies missing.
[05:22] <Bsims> me is thinking a boring intel branded mb as its the vanilla option and one can assume drives will be there if anywhere
[05:22] <Bsims> er drivers
[05:22] <Afdal> No I haven't
[05:22] <bazhang> skilz, what version of ubuntu are you on
[05:23] <Afdal> My RAID0 is a hardware RAID
[05:23] <skilz> 11.10 I think
[05:23] <negative> Afdal: ah right, you said that. Sorry!
[05:24] <Afdal> :3
[05:24] <skilz> bazhang,
[05:24] <negative> goddard: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bit_rate#Video might be of interest too
[05:24] <roasted> hello! Can someone explain to me what happens with Ubuntu populating host names of samba machines on the network? Reason I ask is my HTPC has a samba share. If I go on my mac immediately after booting up and do smb://htpc, it works fine. On my ubuntu laptop, nope. I HAVE to use IP address. Why is that?
[05:25] <goddard> negative: thanks ill look into this stuff
[05:25] <jamesmk2003> does anybody know how to shrink (make tinner) this funnny bar on a left? I want to shave it a bit look childish so big.
[05:26] <zgr> is it possible to find out what program created certain directory inside my ~/? Audiobooks for example
[05:27] <urlin2u> jamesmk2003, install the compiz cofig setttings manager if you mean in unity and use its plugin.
[05:27] <no1home> roasted: you could add the IP address to /etc/hosts on your laptop.
[05:27] <urlin2u> compizconfig*
[05:27] <mavrick95> holstein: i did. i am serious man, this ubuntu problem is draining my life force... really, i've been coming here for the past three days straight and i feel that every time i get close to solve, it doesn't... very frustrating.
[05:28] <silare> Is there a good Rational UML equivalent on Linux?
[05:28] <roasted> no1home: that's not the point. The point is mac can resolve hostnames, ubuntu can't. I want to figure out why.
[05:28] <Chat8859> Hello?
[05:28] <mavrick95> holstein: maybe it is time to blame something else for the black screen issue, maybe the amd64 alternate i downloaded right before the crash?
[05:29] <urlin2u> mavrick95, how long you been running ubuntu now?
[05:29] <no1home> roasted: ok understood, thought you were looking for a quick fix.
[05:29] <urlin2u> or any open source mavrick95
[05:30] <roasted> no1home: no, I can use the ip and get t to work, I just dont understand why its not.
[05:30] <Ineedhelpwiththi> Guys I need a little help
[05:30] <bazhang> Ineedhelpwiththi, with what
[05:30] <Ineedhelpwiththi> Well, I get an error message that says
[05:30] <mavrick95> urlin2u: when it crashed, i was running ubuntu with little issues for about 2 months (first time using linux on homePC)
[05:31] <goddard> Civil: hah i use it to convert a video and now it is super fast haha
[05:31] <Civil> goddard: if you need both quality and size you should play a lot with it's parameters
[05:32] <urlin2u> mavrick95, I would say that some things take a while and if it is just a matter of understanding rather tehn a software or hardware problem, you willl unlikely forget how to do it in the end.
[05:32] <Ineedhelpwiththi> 'E:type'ain is not known on line 1 in source list /etc/apt/sources.list.d/Ubuntu-wine-ppa-natty.list'
[05:32] <Civil> you can make good quality but very slow encoding (~0.1x real time or even slower, if you want)
[05:32] <urlin2u> mavrick95, I have been lucky all my computers run on drivers installed in the install.
[05:33] <bazhang> Ineedhelpwiththi, please pastebin that section of sources.list.d
[05:33] <negative> Ineedhelpwiththi: what's the first line in your /etc/apt/sources.list.d/Ubuntu-wine-ppa-natty.list say?
[05:33] <Ineedhelpwiththi> It says "ain"
[05:33] <Ineedhelpwiththi> It won't let me edit it out
[05:34] <bazhang> Ineedhelpwiththi, pastebin it please
[05:34] <Ineedhelpwiththi> What's that mean?
[05:34] <negative> to edit files in /etc you need sudo. can you stick it on pastebin so we can see the whole file?
[05:34] <urlin2u> mavrick95, not sure any of that helps, but it took me 6 months to understand what to not delete, I removed the whole home file at one point lol.
[05:34] <mavrick95> urlin2u: the thing is that i messed a little bit with synaptic, trying to get better drivers for my video card, and then "black screen"! it doesn't even tell me what is wrong.
[05:34] <negative> post it here http://pastebin.com/
[05:35] <Ineedhelpwiththi> Well, let me explain
[05:35] <urlin2u> mavrick95, were the stock drivers working or what you had?
[05:35] <Ineedhelpwiththi> My computer will not connect to the Internet, even with 5 bars wifi, using that error as an excuse
[05:35] <goddard> Civil: crazy stuff this encoding im gonna have to learn more about it
[05:36] <Ineedhelpwiththi> I'm using IrC on my phone
[05:36] <Civil> goddard: you can use some of x264 params from ffmpeg
[05:36] <jeeves_moss> how can I delete a secure parition on a 32Gb MicroSD card?  I keep getting this http://pastebin.com/L8RLjrCF and I can't delete or access it
[05:37] <Civil> it maybe a bit easier
[05:37] <negative> Ineedhelpwiththi: did you try commenting out the first line?
[05:37] <mavrick95> urlin2u: it was working ok, even with fglrx still in, it messed up bad, i GUESS, after i downloaded amd64 alternate
[05:37] <Ineedhelpwiththi> How do I do that negative?
[05:38] <mavrick95> i download a lot of things from synaptic, and one of them was that
[05:38] <negative> Ineedhelpwiththi: make the first character of the line a #
[05:39] <Ineedhelpwiththi> It won't let me type on it
[05:39] <mavrick95> can i copy the standard drivers to my hd from a liveUSB, or i have to use your knoppix?
[05:39] <urlin2u> mavrick95, so you have alive cd right, back it up what you need to save and reinstall it. Now that is what I do I have everything cloned so I weigh the reinstall time with fixing and go with the shortest time.
[05:39] <negative> you need to be sudo
[05:40] <Ineedhelpwiththi> How do I get to sudo
[05:40] <urlin2u> mavrick95, just a how I react, I'm not always interested in where I messed up but having a working OS, but thats me. I rarely mess up the OS now though.
[05:40] <mavrick95> urlin2u: i still feel that the damage is too little to reinstall the OS again...
[05:41] <rubst3r> hello all!
[05:41] <mavrick95> urlin2u: i still feel that i can "heal" it, i just dont know how! lol
[05:41] <bentkus> how do you mess up your OS?
[05:41] <urlin2u> mavrick95, cool that is your prerogative but the frustration is what I avoid your stronger then I would be.
[05:41] <Fudge> anyone know a mailing list or channel where i can discuss fglrx problems i am having?
[05:41] <mavrick95> bentkus: downloading proprietary drivers... :/
[05:41] <urlin2u> you're
[05:42] <Ineedhelpwiththi> Guys how do I get to sudo?
[05:42] <bentkus> why do you need them?
[05:42] <urlin2u> !sudo | Ineedhelpwiththi
[05:42] <negative> Ineedhelpwiththi: oh I thought you were in command line
[05:42] <mavrick95> bentkus: ati video cards run better with proprietary
[05:43] <bentkus> o ati
[05:43] <bentkus> xD
[05:43] <bentkus> poor guy
[05:43] <Ineedhelpwiththi> Command line is the same as terminal right?
[05:43] <skilz> yes
[05:43] <negative> Ineedhelpwiththi: yeah, are you in the terminal?
[05:43] <mavrick95> bentkus: hey, ati's are good gpus! lol
[05:43] <urlin2u> mavrick95, I will say in watching your situation you have had some of the best help on this channel.
[05:43] <Ineedhelpwiththi> Now I am
[05:43] <bentkus> with shitty linux support
[05:43] <bentkus> nvidia are no heroes, but ati sucks evenmore
[05:43] <jeeves_moss> how can I delete a secure parition on a 32Gb MicroSD card?  I keep getting this http://pastebin.com/L8RLjrCF and I can't delete or access it
[05:43] <negative> ok what text editor are you using?
[05:44] <Ineedhelpwiththi> What?
[05:44] <presonic>  tryin to get a screen shot of a teriminal window , 11.10
[05:44] <conductors> so, i just opened the terminal and typed 'wine'
[05:44] <skilz> jeeves_moss, gparted
[05:44] <conductors> and now im downloading and installing wine?
[05:44] <Ineedhelpwiththi> I went to applications>accessories>terminal
[05:44] <negative> Ineedhelpwiththi: actually, disregard. type 'sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list.d/Ubuntu-wine-ppa-natty.list' that will open up an editor so you can edit the file
[05:45] <urlin2u> jeeves_moss, you have gparted installed do it with that.
[05:45] <jamesmk2003> I want to change icons to smaller in 11.10 i am in compizconf set manager nothing is changing
[05:45] <bentkus> presonic just make a screenshot of the entire window
[05:45] <jeeves_moss> skilz, doesn’t see it!!  hence why I'm here.  I can't see it in Windows or in Linux
[05:45] <presonic> bentkus: how?
[05:45] <presonic> screen print?
[05:45] <jeeves_moss> urlin2u, all I want is to delete or overwrite the parition, etc
[05:45] <urlin2u> jeeves_moss, not sure of your definition of a secure partition though.
[05:45] <bentkus> just google it
[05:45] <jamesmk2003> i am in unity plugin
[05:46] <mavrick95> urlin2u: aand i thank YOU very much, because much of that help came from you!
[05:46] <Ineedhelpwiththi> Now it's empty
[05:46] <jeeves_moss> urlin2u, the card was in a Windows Mobile 7 phone.  They use the "secure" feature on the SD card, and now I can't kill the partition on it
[05:46] <negative> wait what
[05:46] <mavrick95> and also ActionParsnip and Dr_willis helped me a lot
[05:47] <urlin2u> mavrick95, I would not consider the better helper in this channel though I'm just a poser really. :)
[05:47] <Ineedhelpwiththi> Now it's empty
[05:47] <urlin2u> myself*
[05:47] <negative> Was there only that one line in the file?
[05:47] <urlin2u> jeeves_moss, there a switch on the card?
[05:47] <Ineedhelpwiththi> Yes, but I don't see anything now
[05:47] <jeeves_moss> urlin2u, nope, it's a microSD
[05:48] <negative> are you sure you typed in the right filename?
[05:48] <conductors> is there a nice guide for getting familiar with the terminal?
[05:48] <urlin2u> jeeves_moss, hmm you might try the ##windows or ##linux channel or call MS .
[05:48] <conductors> (zero programming exp)
[05:49] <Ineedhelpwiththi> It says in the terminal that I failed
[05:49] <jeeves_moss> urlin2u, I'm tempted to take it back to the store and "claim" it's dead.  I can get out of Linux is from DMESG "[sdd] Attached SCSI removable disk"
[05:49] <negative> Ineedhelpwiththi:  what did it say?
[05:49] <mavrick95> t one noob questiobfor i leave for the day: do i have to format my whole hdd in order to install the ubuntu 11.10 OS again, or is it possible to overwrite the OS while leaving the personal files intact?
[05:50] <mavrick95> *just one noob question before i leave for the day: do i have to format my whole hdd in order to install the ubuntu 11.10 OS again, or is it possible to overwrite the OS while leaving the personal files intact?
[05:51] <urlin2u> jeeves_moss, have you tried a windows computer  http://www.ehow.com/how_7460866_partition-micro-sd.html
[05:51] <negative> Ineedhelpwiththi: If there was just that one line "ain" in there, you'd might as well just delete it "sudo rm /etc/apt/sources.list.d/Ubuntu-wine-ppa-natty.list"
[05:51] <Ineedhelpwiththi> 2 things ,(gedit:3869):Gtk-WARNING **: attempting to store changes into '/root/local/share/recently-used.xbel', but failed, no such directory
[05:52] <jeeves_moss> urlin2u, yep,  but shhhhhhh, don't tell anyone I work in a M$ shop.  I'll loose my Linux cred
[05:52] <negative> Ineedhelpwiththi: Did you try removing it yet?
[05:52] <urlin2u> jeeves_moss, lol. :)
[05:53] <Ineedhelpwiththi> I didn't let me
[05:53] <jeeves_moss> urlin2u, I'm one of the "elders"
[05:53] <Ineedhelpwiththi> It won't let me edit
[05:53] <djanik> ïðèâåò âñåì, íàðîä ïîäñêàæèòå êàê èìïîðòèðîâàòü/ýêñïîðòèðîâàòü ïîëüçîâàòåëåé â ubuntu
[05:53] <jeeves_moss> urlin2u, <hangs head in shame>
[05:53] <Ineedhelpwiththi> One thing I can edit has nothing, and the other one with ain I can't edit
[05:53] <negative> Ineedhelpwiththi: Try just removing it: "sudo rm /etc/apt/sources.list.d/Ubuntu-wine-ppa-natty.list"
[05:53] <crizzy_> anyone remember what was the trick for restoring grub splash back to default? (gnome metapackages install debian grub splash)
[05:54] <urlin2u> jeeves_moss, most on here that have any skills know windows as well, they work in the industry or started on windows originaly I suspect, personally I started on open source then learned some windows.
[05:55] <jeeves_moss> urlin2u, I started with hardware hacking "degree in electronics", then Windows
[05:55] <Ineedhelpwiththi> Ok
[05:56] <negative> Ineedhelpwiththi: did you do it? Now run "sudo apt-get update"
[05:57] <Ineedhelpwiththi> I'll do the same for the other
[05:57] <negative> Ineedhelpwiththi: the same for the other what?
[05:57] <Ineedhelpwiththi> yay it worked!!!!
[05:57] <negative> ok good
[05:57] <negative> all set?
[05:58] <Ineedhelpwiththi> IT WORKED
[05:58] <bentkus> it always works
[05:59] <Ineedhelpwiththi> Ok. One last thing
[05:59] <mavrick95> i disconnectede, so i dont know if anyone responded:*just one noob question before i leave for the day: do i have to format my whole hdd in order to install the ubuntu 11.10 OS again, or is it possible to overwrite the OS while leaving the personal files intact?
[05:59] <Ineedhelpwiththi> How do I triforce?
[05:59] <Ineedhelpwiththi> People keep telling me I can't triforce
[06:00] <negative> Ineedhelpwiththi: Hahaha well played. I'll leave that to the others. I'm off to bed
[06:00] <Ineedhelpwiththi> ?
[06:00] <Ineedhelpwiththi> People keep calling me newfag
[06:00] <Ineedhelpwiththi> And say I can't triforce
[06:01] <Ineedhelpwiththi> How do I triforce?
[06:02] <urlin2u> Ineedhelpwiththi, please be careful with using pejoratives aimed at oppressed groups. :)
[06:02] <cloudgeek> i am using ubuntu server and running ubuntu in virtualbox but vm machine ubuntu didn't have intrenet but on system intenet is workign what to do now
[06:03] <Ineedhelpwiththi> Urlin2u, people keep saying newfags can't triforce. How do I triforce?
[06:04] <urlin2u> !language | Ineedhelpwiththi
[06:04] <cloudgeek> Ineedhelpwiththi:  what us Triforce
[06:04] <Ineedhelpwiththi> Oops
[06:04] <Ineedhelpwiththi> How do I triforce?
[06:05] <bazhang> Ineedhelpwiththi, that has ZERO to do with ubuntu support. please stop
[06:05] <Ineedhelpwiththi> Sorry. Where do I go to find out?
[06:05] <bazhang> Ineedhelpwiththi, not here.
[06:06] <Ineedhelpwiththi> Ok. Sorry
[06:08] <cloudgeek> in virtual box how to fix intenet is not workign there
[06:08] <cloudgeek> anybody can help
[06:08] <cloudgeek> vm os is ubuntu
[06:08] <cloudgeek> and main host os also ubuntu
[06:09] <somsip> cloudgeek: try swapping NIC type from NAT to bridged or vice-versa?
[06:09] <Blueshift> goog morning all
[06:09] <Blueshift> * good
[06:09] <lotuspsychje> morning
[06:09] <crizzy_> to answer myself is someone wonders: uninstalling 'desktop-base' removes debian grub screen
[06:10] <cloudgeek> somsip: how to do that i am new , i open vm ubuntu and try to update that then it is showing no connection
[06:10] <cloudgeek> i am using iptable too on my host
[06:11] <somsip> cloudgeek: shutdown the VM, go into setting for the VM, look at the Netwlr connection type, change it
[06:11] <tapout> on the 11 with unity, does it use 'grid' properly.. winkey+left/right calculates half screen and puts the app there?
[06:11] <Blueshift> I was wondering if there was anyone skilled in dovecot authentication in UBU LTS 10.04.3 lts
[06:12] <Blueshift> I am really drawing a blank here
[06:14] <Blueshift> if there is anyone skilled in dovecot authentication in UBU LTS 10.04.3 lts please PM me, I would really appreciate some guidance!
[06:14] <urlin2u> crizzy_, why didn'y you use the minimal or server install in the first place?
[06:14] <lotuspsychje> whats dovecot
[06:14] <urlin2u> didn't*
[06:15] <silare> Hi guys, I'm stuck on getting Gaphor to run. I keep getting errors from Python.
[06:15] <bazhang> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Dovecot Blueshift
[06:16] <Paetus> so, i installed a .msi via wine, the program is installed, but when i click on it -- the icon pulsates for a moment, and then it doesn't open -- no error message, nothing... whats up?
[06:16] <bazhang> Paetus, check the appdb yet?
[06:16] <bazhang> Paetus, asked in #winehq as well?
[06:16] <Paetus> i dont know what tha tis
[06:16] <bazhang> !appdb | Paetus its this
[06:17] <Blueshift> thanks Bazhang
[06:17] <Paetus> awesome, will check
[06:18] <Blueshift> bazhang
[06:20] <Blueshift> I have implemented as per the recommendations there and the server guide
[06:20] <Blueshift> the services are running
[06:20] <Blueshift> i can telnet on 110 995 993 and 25
[06:20] <Blueshift> my problem is
[06:20] <Blueshift> pop3 authentication fails
[06:20] <Blueshift> when i try and send/recieve
[06:20] <FloodBot1> Blueshift: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[06:21] <Blueshift> the passwd and shadow files do not contain my users
[06:21] <Blueshift> i am not sure if they are implemtned on ldap or pam authentication
[06:21] <DevilSolution> does the terminal exit a command/program if it hangs after a certain time?
[06:22] <c31r2g> yes it does automatically
[06:22] <Blueshift2> hmmm
[06:22] <Blueshift2> sorry bout that
[06:23] <Blueshift2> hi Bazhang
[06:23] <Blueshift2> may I pm you please?
[06:23] <bazhang> Blueshift2, keep it in channel please
[06:24] <bazhang> Blueshift2, you may also wish to /join #dovecot
[06:25] <keepguessing> hi I am on ubuntu currently and have nis configured on my machine. I have given sudo priveledges to my nis user. I am running a script which creates a file in tmp folder and in my home folder. Now the problem si that when i run it without sudo creation folders/files in  /tmp folder cribs if i run it with sudo creation of oflder/file in my home directory cribs. Please help find a solution
[06:26] <rhizmoe> cribs?
[06:26] <bazhang> keepguessing, thats pretty hard to understand; care to clarify?
[06:27] <cfhowlett> !ubuntustudio>cfhowlett
[06:28] <tigrang> In 11.10 how do I unload a module before standby
[06:28] <keepguessing> bazhang: which part if unclear?
[06:28] <c31r2g> ubottu how  2 leave a private message
[06:28] <c31r2g> ok ubottu
[06:29] <c31r2g> ubottu how to create a bot and purpose it serves
[06:29] <bazhang> keepguessing, the parts about 'cribs'
[06:29] <keepguessing> premission denied errors.
[06:29] <keepguessing> bazhang: permission denied = cribs
[06:29] <c31r2g> Bazhang how to leave a private message
[06:30] <bazhang> c31r2g, for someone online or offline
[06:30] <silare> Hi guys, I'm stuck on getting Gaphor to run. I keep getting errors from Python.
[06:31] <c31r2g> online and offline both please im new on linux and xchat bazhang
[06:31] <shellcode> my fan make alot of noise
[06:31] <c31r2g> hi silare
[06:31] <shellcode> is that because i have on the 3 pin chassis pin
[06:31] <cfhowlett> shellcode: laptop or desktop?
[06:31] <shellcode> desktop
[06:31] <silare> Hi c31r2g~
[06:31] <cfhowlett> shellcode: oil ...
[06:32] <c31r2g> bazhang how to leave a pm
[06:32] <pangolin> c31r2g: patience
[06:32] <shellcode> oil
[06:32] <cfhowlett> shellcode: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IeZnHSnxS0I
[06:32] <bazhang> c31r2g, memoserv for offline   please ask in #freenode for more
[06:32] <c31r2g> pangolin , bazhang sorry
[06:35] <i_is_broke> shellcode, can of air shut it off and spray the dust out of it.
[06:35] <stephan2012> how do i change the themes that iv downloaded for cinnamon ?
[06:35] <i_is_broke> shellcode, if the fans have layers of dust on them it throws them off balance as well.\
[06:36] <pangolin> stephan2012: what is cinnamon?
[06:36] <stephan2012> linux mint 12 lisa cinnamon..**
[06:36] <pangolin> !mint | stephan2012
[06:36] <i_is_broke> stephan2012, ask in mint
[06:37] <samurai2> !laugh
[06:42] <Guest39714> alldayi420
[06:43] <das7> hi. I  am using ubuntu 10.10. Can I mount all the drives
[06:43] <das7> automatically on swithching on the pc ???
[06:43] <Civil> das7: man fstab
[06:44] <das7> Civil: I don't understand .
[06:44] <bazhang> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Fstab   das7 this may help
[06:44] <c31r2g> Civil do u mean in terminal
[06:44] <das7> let me check
[06:45] <das7> thnx in advance guyz
[06:45] <Civil> das7: fstab is file that is parsed at startup. Linux reads it and mounts everything from it
[06:45] <das7> hmm. Now I get it Thnx
[06:46] <c31r2g> Civil did u mean fstab in terminal right
[06:46] <Civil> manual for fstab - (man fstab in console or link that bazhang provided) describes format of fstab
[06:47] <bazhang> c31r2g, to 'man' something is a suggestion to read the manual (via terminal, yes)
[06:47] <c31r2g> bazhang ok  :)
[06:48] <das7> fstab looks difficult. Any other ways ?
[06:49] <Civil> das7: it's easy
[06:49] <bazhang> das7, its not difficult at all
[06:50] <das7> I will try
[06:50] <Civil> das7: it's format is simple: what_to_mount where_mount fs_type options dump pass. dump specifies  how often fs check should run, and pass means in what order check should run
[06:51] <das7> I am trying
[07:02] <Guest22249> hey
[07:03] <cfhowlett> Guest22249: greetings
[07:04] <Chamunks> amdcccle crashes when i try to apply my changes to use my dual monitors amdcccle just poos
[07:04] <Chamunks> And changes Nothing.
[07:06] <Chamunks> amdcccle crashes when i try to apply my changes to use my dual monitors amdcccle just poos
[07:08] <Chamunks> #ubuntu-canada
[07:18] <doug_> hello all
[07:18] <cfhowlett> doug_: greetings
[07:18] <doug_> I have a problem, I wanna see if you can help
[07:18] <cfhowlett> !ask|doug_
[07:18] <Guido1> I'm just a bit iritated. I have a moved the videocard from one computer with ubuntu 10.04 to a computer with ubuntu 11.10. With 10.04 it worked, but not with the other computer - i want to use the yellow conection
[07:18] <cfhowlett> Guido1: your card isn't necessarily instantly recognized and configured just because you plugged it in.  You're going to have to work a bit to get it set up.
[07:18] <Guido1> how do i do it?
[07:18] <cfhowlett> Guido1: identify your computer and your card...
[07:18] <cfhowlett> Guido1: http://www.ehow.com/how_6773077_install-new-video-card-ubuntu.html
[07:18] <doug__> Sorry, lockup... as I was saying, I'm having a problem with my 11.10 partition....
[07:18] <doug__> I installed 11.10 on my 3rd partition a couple months ago, and was working fine until about a moth ago, when the OS began to run slowly...
[07:19] <doug__> had no indication of cpu, memory or load issues, but ran slower and slower, until finally, the partition will not boot at all now.
[07:19] <doug__> when i ran fsck, it locks up the live CD session and I have to hard reboot. I've tried fsck from my mythbuntu partition as well, with same results.
[07:19] <linocisco> hi
[07:19] <llutz_> doug__: checked S.M.A.R.T status using smartmontools?
[07:19] <cfhowlett> linocisco: greetings
[07:20] <doug__> SMART is clean.
[07:20] <linocisco> i m using windows XP with internet. now i have installed vbox and I am gonna install ubuntu-server as guest.
[07:21] <Guido1> it's a comapq 7el700T and the possible cards are a ms-8826 ver:2.0 and a ms-8818 ver:10B
[07:21] <linocisco> i would like to know which networking adapter I should choose with vbox
[07:21] <helmut_> hi
[07:21] <omnomnom> omnonom
[07:21] <omnomnom> is any1 there
[07:21] <omnomnom> is here linuxalpo
[07:21] <omnomnom> RAGE QUIT
[07:21] <omnomnom> answer me
[07:21] <omnomnom> !!
[07:21] <omnomnom> now
[07:21] <cfhowlett> doug__: df -h see if you've got any HDD space left.
[07:22] <FloodBot1> omnomnom: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[07:22] <omnomnom> japnese flood
[07:22] <omnomnom> FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU
[07:22] <cfhowlett> !ops
[07:33] <kapz> Need help setting up a scanner
[07:34] <Guido1> okee, 10.04 works with both videocards - just plugin. could it a computer specific problem?
[07:35] <kapz> !help
[07:35] <kapz> !patience
[07:36] <Guido1> okee, 10.04 works with both videocards - just plugin. could it a computer specific problem?
[07:39] <alexmakoeyez> hello
[07:39] <alexmakoeyez> i need some umbuntu help
[07:40] <alexmakoeyez> anyone know where to find ur ip address on umbuntu
[07:40] <alexmakoeyez> #unbuntu
[07:40] <tajys> x.x Okay, what the heck was that about?
[07:41] <alexmakoeyez> dude
[07:41] <alexmakoeyez> how the fuck doi find my ip address
[07:41] <MonkeyDust> alexmakoeyez  you mean your public ip address?
[07:41] <cfhowlett> !language|alexmakoeyez:
[07:41] <tajys> Wow, if you're going to be rude, I doubt anyone is going to be interested in helping you...
[07:41] <alexmakoeyez> for my network
[07:41] <alexmakoeyez> my pc cant connect..forsome reason
[07:41] <Evilnami1> We will catch the folks who did this, sotomise them, give em a guantanamo and make em watch episodes of glee
[07:41] <alexmakoeyez> only this umbuntu laptop
[07:42] <alexmakoeyez> i gottaq fay 'f' words just to be noticed
[07:42] <tajys> Are you using wireless?
[07:42] <alexmakoeyez> yes
[07:42] <MonkeyDust> alexmakoeyez  try ifconfig for the local address, curl ifconfig.me for the public ip address
[07:43] <Guido1> okee, 10.04 works with both videocards - just plugin, but both cards does not work with anothe computer wit ubunto 11.10. could it a computer specific problem or are some settings wrong?
[07:43] <cfhowlett> Guido1: if it works at all, it's probably a setting issue
[07:44] <alexmakoeyez> ipconfig?
[07:44] <tajys> Okay, I don't know a whole lot about networking, but if your router is set to "n", if you change it to "g", that might help... I had that problem with my ubuntu lappy, too
[07:44] <alexmakoeyez> the issue isnt my umbuntu but my windows xp pc
[07:44] <alexmakoeyez> which i use for gaming
[07:44] <cfhowlett> alexmakoeyez: ##windows for support
[07:44] <MonkeyDust> alexmakoeyez  no, ifconfig
[07:44] <alexmakoeyez> for some reason it wont connect to the preffered wireless connection automaticially yet this umbuntu laptop has no problem
[07:45] <bonch> ugh
[07:45] <Guido1> cfhowlett: the monitor conection works, but not the yellow AV conection
[07:45] <MonkeyDust> alexmakoeyez  we cannot give advice for win xp, better ask in ##windows
[07:45] <cfhowlett> Guido1: what's the card??
[07:45] <alexmakoeyez> #windows
[07:46] <fae> m
[07:46] <MonkeyDust> alexmakoeyez  type /join ##windows (double #)
[07:46] <kapz> Need help setting up a scanner
[07:46] <Guido1> cfhowlett: it's a comapq 7el700T computer and the possible cards are a ms-8826 ver:2.0 and a ms-8818 ver:10B
[07:47] <kapz> Scanner is canon LiDE 110 flatbed, simplescan detects the scanner but when scanned there is nothing but a white image
[07:47] <cfhowlett> Guido1: make/mode of graphics card??
[07:47] <cfhowlett> !xsane|kapz
[07:48] <Guido1> cfhowlett: nvidia
[07:48] <cfhowlett> Guido1: see, it's little bits of information like that...http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/nvidia
[07:50] <tajys> Also, I noticed you. I was trying to figure out why the heck I was kicked from this channel and joined to another one that said I needed to register, when I was already registered. Maybe you could try being a little more understanding that other people have things going on.
[07:50] <no1home> ifconfig or iwconfig should show your ip, if I understood what you're asking.
[07:50] <FloodBot1> !netsplit
[07:50] <cfhowlett> Guido1: also http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2LXhe0Dt7Co
 23:32 -christel(christel@freenode/staff/exherbo.christel)- [Global Notice] Hi all, it would appear that we are the target of a dos attack this morning -- far from what you fancy before you've had your coffee! I apologise for the inconvenience, and we'll be working closely with our sponsors to try drop this traffic at the door.
[07:51] <minsikcho> hi i'm using ar9285 chip, and the driver stops when i heavily use internet (such as downloading), only when i'm at battery mode... plz help me
[07:51] <Guido1> cfhowlett: okee, i wil have a look
[07:51] <cfhowlett> taipres: /liamneeson mode /on We will look for them, we will find them and we will kill them
[07:53] <minsikcho> hi i'm using ar9285 chip, and the driver stops when i heavily use internet (such as downloading), only when i'm at battery mode... plz help me
[07:53] <cfhowlett> Guido1: also: http://www.noobslab.com/2011/09/nvidia-drivers-for-ubuntu-1110-oneiric.html
[07:56] <minsikcho> hi i'm using ar9285 chip, and the driver stops when i heavily use internet (such as downloading), only when i'm at battery mode... plz help me........
[07:56] <urlin2u> minsikcho, stop repeating your posts.
[07:56] <cfhowlett> !patience|minsikcho:
[08:02] <doug__> OK, so I'm still not able to get my 11.10 partition working, after fsck freezes on testing partition, SMART status is good.... ideas anyone?
[08:03] <ronin___> Hi, I'm run ubuntu 10.10 on Dell D630. My cpu running in overload! Does anyone have suggestion?
[08:03] <doug__> 11.10 partition will not boot... strange
[08:04] <cfhowlett> doug__: FWIW: http://www.insanelymac.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=212837&st=0#entry1427797
[08:08] <doug__> cfhowlett_:good read... gonna go try tit and see if I see any change
[08:09] <cfhowlett> doug_: good luck.  If I can figure this stuff out anybody should be able to.
[08:11] <linocisco> yes
[08:13] <urlin2u> ronin___, type top in the terminal when this happens and look for whats doing this.
[08:15] <big-ol-D> anyone know how to make one of those damn ol perl scripts run?
[08:17] <nicofs_> Is there a tool to monitor which application is using how much of my internet/network traffic?
[08:18] <big-ol-D> does what you chmod it to matter .....like if i put it 777 will it still work
[08:19] <Tm_T> nicofs_: iftop does per connection
[08:20] <nicofs_> Tm_T, what exactly does "per connection" mean?
[08:20] <llutz_> nicofs_: look at ntop, it monitors protocols but i'm not sure if it counts per app
[08:21] <meow_> hello everyone, i just installed KDE4 on my xubuntu oniric, the anti-aliasing on the fonts has disappeared which has made the text almost unreadble :( i tried doing a sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg, but that exited without doing anything :(
[08:21] <meow_> please help
[08:22] <big-ol-D> PUPPY LINUX RULES!!!!
[08:22] <Tm_T> big-ol-D: please stay on topic
[08:22] <meow_> anyone :(
[08:23] <big-ol-D> oh sorry I got ADHD
[08:23] <meow_> i dont want to reinstall the whole thing again
[08:23] <Tm_T> meow_: antialiasing on KDE or on XFCE?
[08:23] <meow_> KDE
[08:24] <nicofs_> llutz_, my problem is, that i use a very slow dial-up connection (not-quite-EDGE, so to say) and i can't afford to lose bandwidth on anything redundant... just recently i had only chromium running with one internet page (not even loading) but all my bandwidth was used - so i was wondering: what might be doing that?
[08:24] <meow_> tried setting it from the kde's settings manager, nothing happened
[08:24] <Tm_T> meow_: you can control its antialiasing settings on systemsettings -> application appearance -> fonts
[08:24] <Tm_T> hmm
[08:24] <meow_> the text looks pathetically ugly right now
[08:24] <meow_> Tm_T, i tried doing that
[08:25] <Tm_T> meow_: did you relogin after that?
[08:25] <meow_> yeah, i just rebooted
[08:25] <big-ol-D> did you install a driver for nvedia?
[08:25] <meow_> big-ol-D, i dont have a nvedia card, and no
[08:26] <meow_> :S
[08:26] <big-ol-D> I did that once and jacked my system all up on one distro
[08:26] <meow_> i think the terminal asked me something about using a default windows manager
[08:26] <meow_> i didnt pay much attention to the option i chose there
[08:26] <Tm_T> meow_: that doesn't matter
[08:26] <big-ol-D> I ENDED UP HAVING TO REINSTALL
[08:26] <Tm_T> big-ol-D: please...
[08:26] <meow_> Tm_T, oh
[08:27] <kapz> OS: ubuntu 11.10, Scanner is USB Canon LiDE 110 flatbed, simplescan/xscanimage detects the scanner but when a document is scanned there is nothing but a white image..help!
[08:27] <meow_> Tm_T, well, seems like i cant even do a sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg anymore
[08:27] <Tm_T> meow_: how you cannot do it?
[08:28] <meow_> Tm_T, i type in the command, and it exists without doing anything
[08:28] <Tm_T> meow_: ah, it does, silently (:
[08:28] <Tm_T> meow_: see your ~/.fonts.conf
[08:28] <meow_> oh
[08:28] <meow_> ok, hold on
[08:29] <meow_> hinting = true
[08:29] <meow_> hintstyle = full
[08:29] <FloodBot1> !netsplit
[08:30] <big-ol-D> wtf bloody hell I thought it was all over
[08:32] <big-ol-D> was that like a flood code?
[08:33] <Myrtti> !netsplit
[08:33] <urlin2u> big-ol-D, try reading the wiki. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Netsplit
[08:34] <rokyronnie> is it possible in Ubuntu 11.10 to use the old Gnome interface ? I don't really like Unity
[08:34] <DJones> !nounity | rokyronnie
[08:35] <urlin2u> rokyronnie, gnome 2 is not supported anymore.
[08:35] <rokyronnie> :(
[08:35] <rokyronnie> then
[08:35] <rokyronnie> can I do something to disable visual effects or something? I mean, it runs a bit hard on my computer
[08:36] <cfhowlett> !xubuntu|rokyronnie
[08:36] <urlin2u> rokyronnie, you might tru xubntu or lubuntu.
[08:36] <urlin2u> xubuntu*
[08:36] <rokyronnie> I know what xubuntu is but... hmm . Gnome 3 is suported ?
[08:37] <VectorX> hi is there something like rdesktop for ubuntu where you would feel like you are on the same machine without lag like vnc ?
[08:37] <urlin2u> rokyronnie, gnome 3 yes
[08:38] <urlin2u> rokyronnie, you can choose gnome 3 at the login window with the gear alongside the login araea.
[08:45] <rokyronnie> so.. Gnome 3 is already installed ?
[08:45] <urlin2u> rokyronnie, thats the rumor .:)
[08:45] <rokyronnie> let me see, I'll be back :)
[08:45] <FloodBot1> !netsplit
[08:45] <rokyronnie> I'm back
[08:45] <rokyronnie> I chosed Ubuntu 2D, I don't really see the difference, but.. it runs better :D
[08:45] <urlin2u> rokyronnie, you on gnome 3
[08:45] <urlin2u> rokyronnie, I think its called gnome did you dee it?
[08:45] <urlin2u> see
[08:45] <rokyronnie> I've only Ubuntu and Ubuntu 2D to chose from
[08:45] <urlin2u> rokyronnie, you can install it with sudo apt-get install gnome-shell
[08:45] <urlin2u> if you want at some point
[08:45] <rokyronnie> sure :), thanks
[08:45] <rokyronnie> and after the install is ready, I should find it there ?
[08:46] <urlin2u> rokyronnie, yeah
[09:10] <madrid_> char en español
[09:10] <madrid_> chat
[09:10] <theadmin> Arney: rfkill block all?
[09:10] <theadmin> !es | madrid_
[09:10] <yeah> hi
[09:10] <madrid_> ok
[09:10] <yeah> I am trying to configure ssh ... but when i connect to it just error: Connection reset by peer
[09:10] <yeah> Guys help me please?
[09:12] <panax3> ssh is hard to set up
[09:12] <yeah> [ubuntu 10.04] ssh error: Connection reset by peer
[09:12] <kode0> FUCK! Flooding my motherfucking screen. STOP!
[09:12] <analo9> eth0
[09:13] <yeah> panax3, what is the problem?
[09:13] <Myrtti> kode0: mind your language
[09:14] <Arney> theadmin: About to try that now... if it works, I'll disconnect.
[09:14] <theadmin> Arney: That needs sudo though
[09:16] <lordb> howto use Huawei E1550 on Ubuntu 10.04 Lucid Lynx
[09:16] <lordb> ??
[09:16] <theadmin> lordb: Is that the USB 3G modem thing?
[09:16] <theadmin> lordb: I think I had one of those
[09:18] <jatt> there is nothing to configure it should work out of the box
[09:19] <lordb> well its doesnt work out of the box
[09:19] <lordb> on 11.10, yes
[09:19] <jatt> yes it does
[09:20] <theadmin> lordb: You need to use usb_modeswitch
[09:20] <gabri88> i have a problem with evolution
[09:20] <T_H_X> ah, the freedom
[09:20] <jatt> !thunderbird
[09:21] <gabri88> but i use evolution and i not change
[09:21] <yeah> Help me please?
[09:21] <kalimojo> im on 11.10. how do i restart the networking service without a reboot
[09:21] <kode0> yeah: Please state the nature of the technical issue.
[09:21] <T_H_X> beep
[09:22] <Arney> theadmin: It killed my connection, but my wifi led is still on... and the battery stimate.
[09:22] <Arney> It lists as "soft block", any way to hard block?
[09:22] <Arney> or power down the pci card?
[09:22] <poolski> anyone use software RAID with mdadm here?
[09:23] <Arney> It used to work in linux 2.6
[09:23] <ikonia> poolski: yes
[09:23] <gabri88> when i read the mail the text overlap
[09:24] <lordb> when i plug in the gsm modem, it mounts it an cdrom
[09:24] <yas> i am using ubutu ultimate 2.8 in our system i have install oracle10g and mysql,netbeans this time my laptop giong heat how to solve it how to check exost fan is working or not?
[09:24] <yeah> kode0, http://pastebin.com/7Jpcc81G
[09:24] <theadmin> Arney: Ah... Hm I dunno. Try disabling it in the bios maybe, not sure you can really hardblock without the switch
[09:25] <theadmin> yas: We don't support Ultimate
[09:25] <jatt> !ontopic
[09:25] <theadmin> lordb: Yep, you need usb_modeswitch
[09:26] <Schrodinger`Cat> hey
[09:26] <poolski> ikonia, I have my /home mounted on a RAID1 I made with mdadm - if I reinstall Ubuntu, will the RAID be preserved?
[09:27] <yas> but it is also a ultimata.
[09:27] <poolski> I know it might be an obvious point, but I've not used it before
[09:27] <theadmin> poolski: Only the Alternate CD allows setting up raid during install so you want that probably.
[09:27] <jatt> what?
[09:27] <poolski> I'm installing ubuntu on a separate disk
[09:27] <poolski> only my /home is mounted on the RAID
[09:29] <ikonia> poolski: the raid data will be preserved (unless you tell it to blank the disks/partitions) however, you may have to manually re-assemble the array the first time you try to use it (and update the mdadm.conf file)
[09:30] <zietgeist> salve
[09:35] <kode0> I need to poop.
[09:38] <tanath> is it just me, or is freenode slow?
[09:38] <poolski> ikonia, so if I copied mdadm.conf to, say, a network share and re-instate it, that'll do the trick, presumably?
[09:38] <ikonia> poolski: it would be better to re-create it
[09:38] <poolski> fair enough
[09:38] <tanath> anyone else lagging or taking a while to connect to freenode?
[09:39] <Myrtti> tanath: freenode is having connection problems today due to a DOS attack.
[09:39] <Guest4086> hello
[09:39] <lordb> DOS attack?
[09:39] <tanath> Myrtti, ok, thanks
[09:40] <C4RL05> whata a dos attack?
[09:41] <tanath> denial of service
[09:41] <Grievre> I've been having this problem intermittently
[09:42] <Grievre> where my USB mouse will suddenly stop working. If I unplug it and move it to another USB port, it never lights up and the kernel never detects it
[09:42] <Grievre> I can still do everything just fine with the keyboard
[09:42] <Grievre> BUT if I try ctrl-alt-f1 to move to a console, it locks up hard
[09:42] <Grievre> and I have to reboot
[09:43] <Grievre> I've tried a different mouse, it's not the mouse
[09:43] <Grievre> does this issue sound familiar to anyone?
[09:43] <tanath> Grievre, does it do that when you do it before the mouse issues?
[09:43] <Grievre> no
[09:43] <Grievre> ctrl-alt-f1 works fine until the mouse freezes
[09:44] <Grievre> I'm not sure if the lockup affects all USB devices or just the mouse
[09:44] <Grievre> my keyboard is PS2
[09:45] <tanath> Grievre, sounds like the problem is affecting more than usb, or is more fundamental
[09:46] <tanath> Grievre, next time it happens, check logs for errors
[09:46] <tanath> Grievre, hell, check them now
[09:46] <zsolt_> hi there.i heard about ubuntu certified professional exam.if i pass this exam,where am i able to work with that?
[09:46] <tanath> Grievre, try gnome log viewer
[09:46] <llutz_> zsolt_: sure, you might decorate your walls with it
[09:47] <Grievre> tanath: Er... would that work? I'm using unity...
[09:47] <tanath> zsolt_, try http://www.indeed.com/jobs?q=ubuntu+certified
[09:47] <Grievre> tanath: Where is it anyhow
[09:47] <zsolt_> thank you
[09:47] <tanath> Grievre, sure it would. you can even use kde apps if you install dependencies for them, regardless of what desktop environment you're using
[09:48] <tanath> Grievre, erm, i use gnome-do to launch it... one sec
[09:48] <Grievre> ok... but why would there be entires in the gnome log viewer if gnome isn't running
[09:48] <Grievre> or am I parsing "gnome log viewer" wrong
[09:48] <tanath> Grievre, gnome-system-log
[09:49] <tanath> Grievre, it's a front-end/GUI for viewing your logs
[09:49] <Grievre> tanath: what does this tell me beyond dmesg or catting the various stuff in /var/log...?
[09:49] <tanath> Grievre, it doesn't need to be running at the time. the logs are made by the system, and it shows them in one place
[09:49] <Grievre> ok
[09:49] <Grievre> tanath: I have a feeling you just gave me a different way of looking at the logs I was already looking at
[09:49] <Grievre> I don't understand
[09:49] <tanath> Grievre, it's just easier/more convenient
[09:49] <Grievre> okay...
[09:49] <Grievre> so, I just opened it and it's empty
[09:50] <tanath> Grievre, list of different logs on the left?
[09:50] <Grievre> I see no list
[09:50] <Grievre> it's a blank window with only a single pane
[09:50] <tanath> Grievre, i've seen an issue where they don't show up by default. you may have to add them manually. then you can access them easily there after that
[09:51] <Grievre> okay but I already know how to view logs in terminal, you are helping me with a problem that I do not have
[09:51] <Grievre> nothing appears in the logs when the mouse freezes
[09:51] <tanath> Grievre, it's pretty basic, but handy when set up
[09:51] <plaimi> I've been given a computer (work-related) that is running Ubuntu, and I'm not allowed to change the OS. unfortunately, I don't speak Ubuntu. can someone tell me why the newest nvidia drivers in your package manager is 270 instead of 290? (for a gt240 card)
[09:51] <tanath> Grievre, hm. well, if there's nothing in the logs when the issue happens, then i don't think i have time to help you with this, sorry
[09:51] <Grievre> I purged and reinstalled compiz that might have fixed it
[09:51] <Grievre> tanath: ?!
[09:51] <Grievre> okay
[09:51] <Grievre> :x
[09:52] <pnorman> Grievre: anything in kern.log or dmesg.log (or their .0 files?)
[09:52] <tanath> Grievre, someone else may
[09:52] <plaimi> also, both nouveau and nvidia are installed. how do I change between them?
[09:53] <Grievre> okay kern.log.1 gives me a whole bunch of "hub_port_status failed". I had unplugged my usb hub earlier thinking that was the problem but it wasn't
[09:53] <Grievre> oh also a bunch of "can't reset device"
[09:53] <tanath> Grievre, i thought you said there was nothing in the logs? :P
[09:53] <pnorman> kern.log.1 should be from before your last restart, did you have the problem then?
[09:53] <Grievre> pnorman: yeah
[09:53] <pnorman> tanath: he said that the program you suggested didn't show anything
[09:54] <pnorman> Grievre: can you pastebin the relevant part?
[09:54] <Grievre> ooh
[09:54] <tanath> pnorman, he said they didn't show up, but i thought he said there wasn't anything in the logs...
[09:54] <Grievre> that might be difficult but i'll try
[09:54] <pnorman> Grievre: tail -n 200 kern.log.1 | pastebinit
[09:55] <tanath> can anyone tell me why k3b won't let me continue my multisession disc? says to insert an appendable media, or empty
[09:55] <sam_> im on 11.10. how do i restart the networking service without a reboot
[09:55] <yeah> i am confused
[09:55] <bullgard4> '~$ gedit /usr/src/linux-source-2.6.32/kernel/power/poweroff.c; /* * When the user hits Sys-Rq o to power down the machine this is the * callback we use. */ .' What is hier meant by »callback«?
[09:56] <Jeicob> hey. I've installed Wine but I can't find the .wine folder on my Home directory. why is that?
[09:56] <theadmin> Jeicob: The wineprofile isn't created yet. You need to run any Wine app. Or just run "winecfg" (wine configuration tool), which also does the trick.
[09:56] <Myrtti> Jeicob: are you looking for it via command line or file manager? .directories are hidden, you need to specifically look for them, if you have it, that is.
[09:57] <Grievre> pnorman: Hold on
[09:57] <Jeicob> Well I installed WoW with wine, but I really can't make it run. I can run the launcher , it updates, but when I hit "PLay" nothing happens and I can't find the wow directory
[09:58] <theadmin> Jeicob: Would be in ~/.wine/drive_c/Program Files/...
[09:58] <Grievre> pnorman: You might want to say "install pastebinit first, then..."
[09:58] <pnorman> Grievre: ah, I never remember what's installed by default
[09:58] <theadmin> Jeicob: That directory is hidden. Hit Ctrl+H (most file managers) or Alt-. (Alt+dot) (Dolphin) to see it
[09:58] <yas> how to set mode +i
[09:58] <Grievre> yas: parse error
[09:59] <pnorman> yas: usermode in IRC, channelmode in IRC, or something else?
[09:59] <Grievre> pnorman: http://paste.ubuntu.com/836366/
[09:59] <Grievre> oops
[09:59] <Grievre> wrong one
[09:59] <Grievre> http://paste.ubuntu.com/836367/
[09:59] <Grievre> THAT one
[09:59] <pnorman> the first one was kern.log, right?
[10:00] <linocisco> hi all
[10:00] <Grievre> pnorman: yeah
[10:00] <lordb> quit
[10:00] <lordb> exit
[10:00] <lordb> stop
[10:00] <linocisco> i have created apt.conf under /etc/apt. I dont want to reboot. how to refresh or update that entry in apt.conf?
[10:00] <Jeicob> theadmin: Ctlr + H did the work, I can now see the directory. But I can't run WoW even if I can run the launcher :P any idea?
[10:01] <pnorman> Jeicob: the wow executable should be called wow.exe - does running that work?
[10:01] <theadmin> Jeicob: Ask in #winehq, we don't really support Windows apps here (we can support wine itself, but not apps you are trying to run with it)
[10:01] <Jeicob> pnorman: nop it doesn't, but the launcher does, not the wow.exe
[10:02] <linocisco> does anybody have solution for me?
[10:02] <yas> how to solve abnormal heat temperature in ubuntu 10.10
[10:03] <pnorman> Grievre: Can you do lsusb and check the ID of the mouse?
[10:04] <AAABBBef> When i try to connect to my SSH server , it output error: Read from socket failed: Connection reset by peer . What is the problem please?
[10:04] <linocisco> i have created apt.conf under /etc/apt. I dont want to reboot. how to refresh or update that entry in apt.conf?
[10:04] <sam_> im on 11.10. how do i restart the networking service without a reboot
[10:04] <pnorman> Jeicob: is the mouse natively USB or is it using a USB to PS2 adaptor?
[10:05] <linocisco> sam_, /etc/init.d/networking restart
[10:06] <sam_> linocisco : i get - Running /etc/init.d/networking restart is deprecated because it may not enable again some interfaces * Reconfiguring network interfaces...
[10:07] <ikonia> sam_: service networking restart
[10:07] <ikonia> sam_: (sudo too)
[10:07] <linocisco> ikonia, i think service networking restart is not debian thing. it is Redhat command
[10:07] <pnorman> Grievre: Also, do you have a USB hard drive or flash drive attached?
[10:07] <ikonia> linocisco: it's ubuntu with upstart
[10:07] <Guido1> i just instaled ubuntu 10.04, but during the instalation i couldn.t use the mous and after the instalation it is still not possible. what can i do?
[10:07] <tanath> anyone familiar with multisession burning?
[10:07] <sam_> ikonia:  i get - restart: Unknown instance:
[10:07] <ikonia> tanath: quite an old concept now
[10:07] <overclucker> linocisco: apt should check for apt.conf when started
[10:08] <ikonia> sam_: try network rather than networking
[10:08] <ikonia> sam_: I've not got an ubuntu machine here to verify for you
[10:08] <linocisco> overclucker, i m on ubuntu-server
[10:08] <linocisco> overclucker, no GUI
[10:08] <sam_> ikonia : i get : network: unrecognized service
[10:09] <Guido1> okee, got it
[10:09] <ikonia> sam_: ahhh uknown instance on networking, what's it complaining about
[10:09] <ikonia> sam_: sorry, miss-read the error
[10:09] <tanath> ikonia, har har
[10:10] <ikonia> tanath: ?
[10:10] <tanath> ikonia, saying "it's an old concept" (multi-session burning)
[10:10] <pnorman> Grievre: http://www.bhcblog.com/2009/02/11/fix-for-device-descriptor-read64-error-71/ might be related. from what i can tell it looks like a problem that occurs with some devices that is related to usb1.1/2.0 recgonition or something, but I'm not 100% sure
[10:10] <tanath> ikonia, obviously i'm looking for troubleshooting help
[10:10] <ikonia> tanath: then you need to ask a question,
[10:11] <tanath> ikonia, i did. no one replied.
[10:11] <tanath> ikonia, hence the repeat poke
[10:11] <tanath> "can anyone tell me why k3b won't let me continue my multisession disc? says to insert an appendable media, or empty"
[10:11] <ikonia> tanath: I didn't see the question, I saw is anyone familier with multi-session burning, yes, I am, it's an old concept
[10:11] <ikonia> tanath: not all disks are multi-session compatible (as crazy as that sounds)
[10:12] <randomnewb> Can anyone tell me why my installer hangs at 63%?
[10:12] <ikonia> tanath: some brands just don't work,
[10:12] <tanath> ikonia, o_O
[10:12] <tanath> ikonia, would have been nice if it told me that when i burned it as a multisession
[10:12] <ikonia> randomnewb: with that level of info - no
[10:12] <ikonia> tanath: it's not the software, it's the media
[10:12] <ikonia> tanath: how is it meant to know ?
[10:12] <overclucker> linocisco: i'm not sure how being on ubuntu-server makes any difference to apt
[10:12] <randomnewb> What info info do you need?
[10:12] <tanath> ikonia, because if it's the media, then it should see, 'Oh, this media doesn't support it' and alert the user
[10:13] <ikonia> tanath: how does it know ?
[10:13] <tanath> ikonia, instead of letting the user burn thinking it'll work and possibly wasting discs
[10:13] <tanath> ikonia, manufacturer id, perhaps?
[10:14] <ikonia> tanath: the only way it could know whould be to do a test burn,
[10:14] <ikonia> tanath: who is going to maintain the manufacturer list and models of what is compatible what is not
[10:14] <tanath> ikonia, eg., maintain a list
[10:14] <llutz_> tanath: generally ALL cd-r media is multi-session capable. possibly some single items might fail. so theres no chance for the software to warn you
[10:14] <ikonia> tanath: who ?
[10:14] <ikonia> tanath: you could just do research before buying
[10:14] <tanath> llutz, hm.
[10:14] <scarleo> randomnewb, what type of install are you doing, hardware, error messages, verified download etc etc, anything that can help diagnosing
[10:15] <tanath> ikonia, people who do that sort of thing? they maintain other info for media ids
[10:15] <westernanalog> anyone that has gotten Gimp 2.7.5 working after the update to day?
[10:15] <randomnewb> I'm trying to install 10.04 LTS from CD along Win7
[10:15] <tanath> ikonia, don't always have time for that
[10:15] <randomnewb> No error messages.
[10:15] <ikonia> tanath: yet you want someone to maintain a list of all vendors and sub versions,
[10:15] <tanath> ikonia, llutz, dvds can be multisession too, yes?
[10:15] <ikonia> tanath: I believe so, but I'm not %100 certain, yes, why wouldn't they be
[10:16] <scarleo> randomnewb, did you verify the download?
[10:16] <tanath> ikonia, my understanding is that there isn't all _that_ many. the brands are irrelevant as they all go to various manufacturers anyway
[10:16] <randomnewb> Yes.
[10:16] <tanath> ikonia, just verifying
[10:16] <ikonia> tanath: well, there "is" that many and each brand has many versions
[10:16] <randomnewb> The CD too.
[10:16] <acering> Hello!
[10:16] <scarleo> randomnewb, where does it hang? Not % but what isit doing when hanging?
[10:17] <tanath> ikonia, i think that's a common misconception. you can't tell what kind of disc you're getting before you buy. brand is irrelevant
[10:17] <randomnewb> Installing after the partitions are set up.
[10:17] <ikonia> tanath: it's not a common misconception
[10:17] <llutz_> tanath: there are lists about media on several forums around the net. read atip of yours (wodim -atip), check them for known problems
[10:18] <tanath> ikonia, you need the disc's media id to tell who manufactered it, which you can't get before buying
[10:18] <ikonia> tanath: again, not something that can be done
[10:18] <ikonia> tanath: bottom line is, most of the time the problem you are descibing is a media issue, and not something ubuntu can do anything about
[10:18] <Halexander9000> Guys, what OS do you suggest I use for an old 2008 ASUS EEE PC 904HD? Prefferably can run minecraft as well.
[10:18] <scarleo> randomnewb, ok, but more exact, what package? I don't have the entire process in my head but I think it tells you what it's installing, right?
[10:18] <tanath> ikonia, thanks for that anyway
[10:19] <randomnewb> 10.04
[10:19] <ikonia> tanath: sorry it's not a fix, but you've got to be honest/realistic
[10:19] <acering> people, I plan to install conky [after installing ubuntu] and am currently using rainmeter in windows, I was wondering if I can get the app launchers in ubuntu that are similar to this link http://imagebin.org/198196
[10:19] <scarleo> randomnewb, no not Ubuntu version, when it's installing it's installing a lot of packages, programs, and it should display which one it's working on
[10:20] <tanath> ikonia, "Error trying to open /dev/sr0 exclusively (Device or resource busy)..."
[10:20] <Halexander9000> I tried Linux Mint, Eeebuntu, CrunchBang, Puppeee, none work like they're supposed to. I need some help. I want to belive linux can in fact do a better job than windows.
[10:20] <tanath> ikonia, and says it seems to be mounted. it's not
[10:20] <ikonia> tanath: sounds like it may not have closed the session
[10:20] <tanath> ikonia, i also closed k3b
[10:20] <ikonia> Halexander9000: it can't in all situations
[10:20] <randomnewb> I'll need to reinstall and see.
[10:20] <tanath> ikonia, well, yeah.. i started a multisession, only now i can't continue >_<
[10:20] <ikonia> tanath: sounds like it's just left it open and locked the device out
[10:21] <Halexander9000> ikonia: So you're saying I should've stayed with windows?
[10:21] <tanath> ikonia, but i've closed k3b and ensured it's unmounted now, and it still does it
[10:21] <randomnewb> BTW should I be using the amd64 version since I have 4GB of memory?
[10:21] <ikonia> Halexander9000: you should use what works best for you
[10:21] <acering> How do you want it to work, Halexander9000
[10:21] <ikonia> tanath: closing the probram may not release the device
[10:21] <tanath> ikonia, wait, no it was mounted for some reason. my applet misled me
[10:21] <theadmin> Halexander9000: What do you want from it, exactly?...
[10:22] <theadmin> Halexander9000: Linux outperforms Windows given proper hardware is in use. Apart from gaming maybe, Linux games exist but not too well-known or popular
[10:23] <acering> Halexander9000, you need to customise any os with your needs [if you want it to do your job ] so tell me what exactly what is the issue
[10:23] <tanath> ikonia, so where would you have me look for known problems? just google?
[10:23] <acering> people, I plan to install conky [after installing ubuntu] and am currently using rainmeter in windows, I was wondering if I can get the app launchers in ubuntu that are similar to this link http://imagebin.org/198196
[10:23] <scarleo> randomnewb, first, pleasse put username in your lines, like: "scarleo, BTW should I..."
[10:23] <llutz_> tanath: "wodim -msinfo"  to check if that media really could be appended
[10:23] <Halexander9000> I want Minecraft.
[10:23] <theadmin> Halexander9000: Ok cool. You need Java first.
[10:23] <scarleo> randomnewb, and you can use either, 64 would be preferred
[10:24] <randomnewb> Ok thanks scarleo.
[10:24] <Halexander9000> It doesn't work because I can't compile a Intel GM 915 graphics driver. I've done the rest. Always hit this road block.
[10:24] <ikonia> Halexander9000: you don't need an intel graphics driver
[10:24] <theadmin> Halexander9000: Oh, uhh, you sure you need that? Intel drivers are in the repos
[10:24] <ikonia> Halexander9000: the intel 915 is supported out of the box
[10:24] <theadmin> ^_^
[10:24] <Halexander9000> The driver Asus provides has a sh script. It can't compile because it can't find any compiler to use.
[10:25] <acering> Has anyone used conky? bcos I have some queries pls
[10:25] <theadmin> Halexander9000: If you *want* to compile, okay. sudo apt-get install build-essential bison flex m4
[10:25] <Halexander9000> I'm talking about all those other distributions.
[10:25] <ikonia> acering: just ask, if people know, they will help
[10:25] <ikonia> Halexander9000: are are only talking about ubuntu in here
[10:25] <tanath> llutz, that gave nothing useful, unless "0,0" means something to you
[10:25] <acering> people, I plan to install conky [after installing ubuntu] and am currently using rainmeter in windows, I was wondering if I can get the app launchers in ubuntu that are similar to this link http://imagebin.org/198196
[10:25] <theadmin> Halexander9000: We don't support "other" distributions. Only Ubuntu, Kubuntu, Xubuntu and Lubuntu, specifically, as well as Edubuntu and Ubuntu Studio.
[10:26] <llutz_> tanath:  http://cdrecord.berlios.de/private/man/README/README.multi
[10:26] <theadmin> acering: I don't think Conky does this (but it should be possible with some other software)
[10:26] <acering> In short, can I launch an application using conky by way of launchers?
[10:26] <Halexander9000> So, what you're saying is that I should risk it and try Ubuntu, after all those other failures?
[10:26] <ikonia> acering: waiting longer than 60 seconds before asking again is a good start, you asked waited 60 seconds then started asking for help again
[10:26] <acering> theadmin, I want it embedded in conky
[10:26] <theadmin> Halexander9000: We don't say that. All we say is we won't support you if you're using an unsupported distro.
[10:26] <theadmin> acering: Repeating once every 10 minutes or so is acceptable, don't repeat too often
[10:27] <acering> thanks for the advice colonel [ikonia]
[10:27] <acering> hmm
[10:27] <tanath> llutz, don't suppose you can give me the tldr of that?
[10:27] <bullgard4> '~$ gedit /usr/src/linux-source-2.6.32/kernel/power/poweroff.c; /* * When the user hits Sys-Rq o to power down the machine this is the * callback we use. */ .' What is here meant by »callback«?
[10:28] <theadmin> bullgard4: Try #ubuntu-devel , we don't really support development issues here.
[10:28] <Halexander9000> Fine. I'll get Ubuntu.
[10:29] <bullgard4> theadmin: You are in error. This is no development but actual Ubuntu practice.
[10:29] <ikonia> bullgard4: where are you getting that message ?
[10:29] <theadmin> bullgard4: It is development since you are fiddling with source code
[10:29] <theadmin> ikonia: It's in the source files (kernel/power/poweroff.c)
[10:29] <ikonia> theadmin: I konw, I want bullgard4 to answer
[10:30] <ikonia> bullgard4: where are you getting that message ?
[10:30] <bullgard4> theadmin: Your reasoning is ridiculous.
[10:30] <randomnewb> What is /var used for?
[10:30] <overclucker> Halexander9000: get a low res texture pack. that;s what i use on my eeepc  904ha
[10:30] <ikonia> bullgard4: is this question an ubuntu support issue, or a generic kernel question ?
[10:30] <Halexander9000> I used optifine on windows overclucker! I never strayed away from the 16 px texture packs.
[10:30] <bullgard4> ikonia: I am referring to an actual Ubuntu program-
[10:31] <theadmin> randomnewb: "/var contains variable data files. This includes spool directories and files, administrative and logging data, and transient and temporary files."
[10:31] <theadmin> randomnewb: Give this a read: http://www.pathname.com/fhs/pub/fhs-2.3.html
[10:31] <ikonia> bullgard4: which ubuntu program ?
[10:32] <tanath> llutz, i'm not finding that helpful. i'm not doing things manually, and it doesn't seem to tell me how to tell if it's in fact multisession
[10:32] <overclucker> Halexander9000: performance on linux is still net very good, less capable hardware like with an eeepc, you'll really notice
[10:32] <bullgard4> ikonia: The name of the Ubuntu program is "poweroff".
[10:32] <ikonia> bullgard4: how do you launch it
[10:32] <llutz_> tanath: the system (wodim) sees your media as empty/non-multisession.
[10:32] <ehsan_> Hi
[10:32] <ikonia> bullgard4: as from what you are saying you are reading the power off function in the kernel
[10:33] <tanath> llutz, it's certainly not empty
[10:33] <tanath> llutz, and doesn't show that way in nautilus
[10:33] <ikonia> bullgard4: could you please clarify
[10:33] <llutz_> tanath: so either the media is broken or wodim is (i'd guess wodim is)
[10:33] <bullgard4> ikonia: "[11:32]	<ikonia>	bullgard4: how do you launch it" <- Please read 'man poweroff' for an answer.
[10:33] <ikonia> bullgard4: no, I'm asking you
[10:33] <tanath> llutz, disc seems fine
[10:34] <tanath> llutz, data, etc.. all good
[10:34] <ikonia> bullgard4: if you want help - respond to questions, don't tell me to read the man pages
[10:34] <overclucker> Halexander9000: also, use sun-jre instead of openjdk
[10:34] <tanath> llutz, could it be because i burned an iso?
[10:34] <ehsan_> I have installed grub2 on usb and I want to do update-grub but it updates the one installed on my internal harddrive not the one that is on usb
[10:34] <llutz_> tanath: you burned an iso as multisession? you can't
[10:35] <tanath> llutz, it's just a data iso...
[10:35] <tanath> llutz, :(
[10:35] <tanath> llutz, if that can't be done, then it definitely should have warned me
[10:35] <llutz_> tanath: idk file a bugreport
[10:35] <theadmin> ehsan_: Run instead, "sudo grub-mkconfig -o /path/to/usb/boot/grub/grub.cfg"
[10:35] <bullgard4> ikonia: I have used the program 'poweroff' in the command '~$ sudo poweroff'.
[10:35] <tanath> llutz, enh, no time for that and i'll forget. ty though
[10:35] <ikonia> bullgard4: ok - if you look that's actually a symlink
[10:36] <ikonia> bullgard4: what is your actual questions
[10:36] <TekMa> yes
[10:36] <bullgard4> ikonia: Your message does not answer my question at the outset.
[10:36] <ikonia> bullgard4: because you have not asked a question
[10:36] <aspirin> hi
[10:36] <ikonia> bullgard4: or at least one that is clear
[10:36] <bullgard4> ikonia: I know that well. And It does not answer the question which I put at the outset.
[10:36] <ikonia> bullgard4: so if you have an ubuntu specific support question please ask
[10:37] <bullgard4> ikonia: Please read what I wrote bewfore and take notice and try to understand the meaning in it.
[10:37] <aspirin> anybody knows a software like itunes to sync ipad with ubuntu?
[10:37] <ehsan_> ty verymuch threadmin
[10:37] <ikonia> bullgard4: it doesn't make sense, which is why I'm asking you to clarify your question
[10:39] <theadmin> aspirin: Rhythmbox is capable of that.
[10:39] <randomnewb> I'm at step 6 of 8, would a picture of the lockup help at step 7?
[10:40] <overclucker> bullgard4: you should google callback
[10:41] <ikonia> overclucker: do you actually understand what is being asked ?
[10:41] <splashote> hey, how can i mount my encrypted /home-folder in a live-cd-system?
[10:42] <randomnewb> actually step 8 I'm not importing my Win 7 data.
[10:42] <llutz_> bullgard4: is it this what you asked for? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Callback_(computer_programming)
[10:42] <Chris____> Hello, do you all use Ubuntu?
[10:42] <overclucker> ikonia: i think he asked:  What is here meant by
[10:42] <Chris____> I don't I have a Mac, it's so much better!!!!!!
[10:42] <Chris____> Everyone check out http://www.fusionstrike.com
[10:42] <overclucker> >>callback<<?
[10:42] <ikonia> Chris____: please don't spam
[10:42] <dns53> splashote mount the drive, i believe there was a program / shell script in your home directory that sets up the decryption
[10:42] <ikonia> overclucker: how is that even an ubuntu query
[10:42] <bullgard4> ikonia: It does not make sense asking for the meaning of a term that is used in a Ubuntu-made source ccode? Oh dear.
[10:42] <Chris____> I HAVE A MAC AND I AM NEVER GOING BACK
[10:42] <ikonia> bullgard4 it is NOT ubuntu made source code
[10:43] <Chris____> I HAVE A MAC AND I AM NEVER GOING BACK
[10:43] <Chris____> I HAVE A MAC AND I AM NEVER GOING BACK
[10:43] <FloodBot1> Chris____: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[10:43] <theadmin> Chris____: Fine, then get out and live happily.
[10:43] <theadmin> what an idiot, geez.
[10:43] <Tm_T> theadmin: please
[10:43] <theadmin> Sorry, Mac people make me lose my temper Tm_T, especially those like that one
[10:43] <Tm_T> see pm
[10:43] <theadmin> Tm_T: Pardon me, I didn't receieve any
[10:44] <randomnewb> scarleo stillhere?
[10:45] <overclucker> ikonia: doesn't seem relevant to ubuntu to me either
[10:48] <ikonia> bullgard4: please check your private messages
[10:49] <randomnewb> Hello.
[10:50] <CJKay> Stupid Unity
[10:51] <CJKay> So buggy
[10:51] <ikonia> CJKay: want help or want to rant ?
[10:51] <scarleo> randomnewb, yes now I am :)
[10:51] <CJKay> Just to rant thanks
[10:51] <CJKay> Although actually
[10:51] <ikonia> CJKay: this isn't the right channel - so don't do it
[10:51] <randomnewb> I'm installing now.
[10:51] <CJKay> I don't know if anyone's put in some form of support for it but Unity is a *massive* memory leaker over time
[10:52] <randomnewb> At "Copying Files"
[10:52] <ikonia> CJKay: we support unity here
[10:52] <CJKay> So do I, just this issue really gets to me when I'm down to 400MB RAM left over just two days
[10:52] <scarleo> randomnewb, wubi installer?
[10:53] <ikonia> I suspect you probably just have file systems cached as your machine is underused
[10:53] <CJKay> I drop caches regularly
[10:53] <ikonia> CJKay: it's a feature the kernel does that is very useful to make use of spare ram
[10:53] <scarleo> randomnewb, and please address with username when writing
[10:53] <ikonia> CJKay: how are you dropping the cache ?
[10:53] <randomnewb> scarleo I'm trying the installer from Live CD now.
[10:53] <CJKay> sudo sync
[10:53] <CJKay> sudo echo {1|2|3} > /proc/sys/vm/drop_caches
[10:54] <ikonia> CJKay: so that won't just drop it
[10:54] <ikonia> CJKay: that will re-cache after clearning down the current cache
[10:54] <scarleo> randomnewb, is that the one giving you trouble or are you trying it as a different method now?
[10:54] <ikonia> CJKay: that won't stop it caching
[10:54] <CJKay> I'm not trying to stop it caching, just I like to clean it up a bit when it starts to get laggy
[10:54] <randomnewb> scarleo I'm trying it as a different method.
[10:55] <randomnewb> It's in the download phase now.
[10:55] <ikonia> CJKay: why do you think unity has a large memory leak problem ?
[10:55] <zgr> ubuntu is going to migrate to systemd or it will remain on upstart?
[10:55] <deskduck> Hello, I plan to install ubuntu, and I currently have 3 windows ntfs hard drives, I want to install ubuntu only on c drive while erasing the entire windows OS, is this possible?
[10:55] <theadmin> zgr: Upstart currently.
[10:55] <ikonia> zgr: follow the uds sessions
[10:55] <theadmin> deskduck: Sure, but the drive won't stay as NTFS
[10:55] <randomnewb> scarleo, is this kind of problem common?
[10:55] <CJKay> ikonia: When I restart Unity, `free` says I typically gain upwards of 1.5GB free RAM
[10:56] <CJKay> And the system speeds up again
[10:56] <ikonia> CJKay: why do you think that's specfically unity,
[10:56] <deskduck> I want to keep data on drive d and e intact, but convert the rest of the space into ext4, can that be possible?
[10:56] <scarleo> randomnewb, no, I don't know if it is common wityh wubi thing, I think that one is kinda new so wouldn't be surprised if it had a bug or two, but installing from Live should work just fine
[10:57] <CJKay> I can't tell if it's specifically Unity, just that it's closely linked to Unity since the same thing happens when I run no applications other than the default ones
[10:57] <CJKay> Supposedly nm-applet has quite a large leak
[10:57] <ikonia> CJKay: how are you restarting unity ?
[10:57] <CJKay> I usually do unity --replace
[10:57] <ikonia> that's just re-spawning the unity shell
[10:57] <CJKay> So how do you restart it?
[10:58] <deskduck> I want to keep data on drive d and e intact, but convert the c drive into ext4, can that be possible?
[10:58] <CJKay> deskduck: No, copy everything to an external drive, format, put it back
[10:58] <scott_free> cant get wireless working on hp pavillion zv5000
[10:58] <irdx> backup data, convert and restore
[10:58] <irdx> :P
[10:58] <deskduck>  I dont have one
[10:58] <ikonia> CJKay: if you feel it's valid (which based on your comments it is) log a bug, although I have a machine here that's got an uptime of 32days with unity and has solid memory use, no issues
[10:58] <deskduck> neither can I afford that is why I am asking
[10:59] <deskduck> ?
[10:59] <almoxarife> deskduck: drive D is the cd/dvd aint it?
[10:59] <CJKay> ikonia: Hmm, well this happens with my laptop and my desktop so I may well put in a report
[10:59] <randomnewb> deskduck anymore detail you can give?
[10:59] <CJKay> A telltale sign is that when I try to run one of my applications, malloc fails
[10:59] <ikonia> CJKay: if you feel it's valid, get a bug report in, as much detail as possible
[11:00] <randomnewb> Partitioning isn't really difficult but it is something you must be very careful with.
[11:01] <deskduck> I am planning to install ubuntu 11.10 on c drive which is around 40 GB[ i want it converted to ext4 naturally]  and I have 2 other drives D and E around 120 GB[ my HDD is 160 GB], now I have [precious] data on D and E so what am I saying is can I install ubuntu only on C and keep D and E as mountable ntfs partitions?
[11:01] <scott_free> cant get the b43fwcutter towork havnt had this problem bfore
[11:02] <[666]> yes.
[11:02] <crizzy> yes deskduck.
[11:02] <scott_free> is there a prob with b3 on 11.10?
[11:02] <scott_free> b43
[11:02] <theadmin> deskduck: Yes. Reformat one of the drives to ext4, mount to /, done. Don't touch the others
[11:02] <deskduck> wow thanks  crizzy
[11:02] <Shiu> good day
[11:03] <randomnewb> scarleo, my install completed.
[11:03] <scarleo> randomnewb, great!
[11:03] <scott_free> worked fine on open suse i wonder if i got a bad install
[11:03] <deskduck> and thanks theadmin, trying ubuntu for the first time can I get some opinions on ubuntu [I mean the basic differences between ubuntu and windows]
[11:04] <theadmin> deskduck: Too many to list. But first of all, the filesystem in Linux is different. The main drive (where you install to) is the root directory or /. Every other drive is attached to it as a folder, for instance /blah, /bleh, /foo, /bar
[11:04] <scarleo> scott_free, did you check Additional Drivers, might need to activate it
[11:04] <theadmin> deskduck: That's important to understand, we have no drive letters :P
[11:04] <Shiu> anyone got a good grasp of pulseaudio and getting surround working through HDMI? I've got stereo working just fine, and I've been checking the extra-hdmi.conf file for a surround profile that corresponds with my stereo output.. its there in the conf file, just not in the control panel on desktop
[11:05] <randomnewb> Do not be afraid of the terminal.
[11:05] <scott_free> ya it doesnt come up
[11:05] <scott_free> it said hardware switch on wireless
[11:05] <deskduck> also, theadmin, you mentioned earlier about mount to /, what is this?
[11:05] <scott_free> wierd, i read some threads
[11:05] <scarleo> scott_free, what is your hardware, NIC?
[11:06] <scott_free>  Network controller: Broadcom Corporation BCM4306 802.11b/g Wireless LAN Controller (rev 03)
[11:06] <theadmin> deskduck: If you use the "Advanced" option when installing you will be able to choose a mount point for each partition (that is, the folder it's accessed on). To tell it to "install to this drive", specify the mount point as /
[11:06] <Shiu> http://www.momentaryfascinations.com/technology/getting.7.1.hdmi.audio.working.under.ubuntu.html this page shows what I'm trying to do but unfortunately arent having any luck with
[11:07] <scarleo> scott_free, did you install firmware-b43-installer ?
[11:07] <randomnewb> I'm a newbie with GNU/Linux but not new to partitoning.
[11:07] <ictxiangxin> hello
[11:07] <scott_free> ya i tried that
[11:08] <scott_free> ill tryagain hang on
[11:08] <ictxiangxin> how can I install x in ubuntu?
[11:08] <scarleo> scott_free, or/and try b43-fwcutter
[11:09] <deskduck> can you explain me what is open source? I searched for ubuntu and it tells me ubuntu is an open source , what does it mean?
[11:09] <deskduck> can you explain me what is open source? I searched for ubuntu and it tells me ubuntu is an open source , what does it mean? theadmin
[11:09] <ictxiangxin> oh, install x libraries
[11:09] <CJKay> The source is available to the public
[11:09] <scott_free> ok
[11:09] <theadmin> deskduck: Means the code for ALL THE PROGRAMS that come with Ubuntu is free to stare at and modify :)
[11:09] <ictxiangxin> when I configure bochs, it need x libraries
[11:09] <scarleo> scott_free, and the do sudo modprobe -r b43 ssb     then: sudo modprobe b43
[11:09] <theadmin> deskduck: Not really important to plain users though
[11:09] <guest123321> what does % mean in irc?
[11:09] <scott_free> ok
[11:10] <theadmin> guest123321: Depends where you see it
[11:10] <ictxiangxin> how to install x libraries use apt?
[11:10] <guest123321> theadmin: before a guys nick
[11:10] <ictxiangxin> help me please
[11:10] <deskduck> well then how do you modify "source code" and what does it mean the admin?
[11:11] <theadmin> guest123321: halfop
[11:11] <deskduck> ?
[11:11] <theadmin> deskduck: The program code (internal instructions of how to do this or that, how to make the program work) is usually just a text file which you can open with your favorite editor, so...
[11:12] <deskduck> ohh
[11:12] <theadmin> ictxiangxin: X comes preinstalled in Ubuntu with all the libs, you're not really making sense. Are you using the server version?
[11:13] <deskduck> what is derivative? I am seeing lubuntu, xubuntu and ubuntu on ubuntu.com, which one should i choose?
[11:13] <ictxiangxin> theadmin: not server version
[11:13] <scott_free> ok did that scarlo

[11:13] <scott_free> should i reboot? <scarleo>
[11:14] <scarleo> scott_free, ok, so success?
[11:14] <deskduck> ?
[11:14] <theadmin> deskduck: If you're not sure, go with Ubuntu, that will get you most support.
[11:14] <ictxiangxin> theadmin: the msg:ERROR: X windows gui was selected, but X windows libraries were not found.
[11:14] <deskduck> support in the sense?
[11:14] <theadmin> ictxiangxin: Are you trying to compile some stuff?
[11:14] <theadmin> deskduck: In this channel. The user interface in other Ubuntu versions (Kubuntu, Xubuntu and Lubuntu) differs a lot
[11:15] <ictxiangxin> I want to compile bochs2.5
[11:15] <scarleo> scott_free, if you click the network icon, is wireless active?
[11:16] <theadmin> ictxiangxin: I see, well, you need the X development files then, sudo apt-get install libx11-devel
[11:16] <ictxiangxin> theadmin: when I configure bochs, didn't pass
[11:16] <deskduck> is there a pdf file for beginners in ubuntu? I would love to read that before installing, theadmin.
[11:16] <Grievre> oh hey
[11:16] <theadmin> deskduck: There is, but it's very old and no longer really valid
[11:16] <deskduck> for introduction, the admin
[11:16] <Grievre> the mouse just froze again
[11:16] <ictxiangxin> theadmin: ok
[11:16] <deskduck> ohh
[11:17] <theadmin> ictxiangxin: Pardon me, is "libx11-dev"
[11:17] <ictxiangxin> theadmin: got it
[11:17] <deskduck> hey, I downloaded an iso, where is the exe file to install ubuntu?
 it says wireless is disabled by hardware switch
[11:18] <theadmin> deskduck: Uhhh... Ubuntu is an OS, you can't just "install" it like a program
[11:18] <scarleo> scott_free, ok, so try the hardware swith then, if it doesnt wrk try a reboot
[11:18] <theadmin> deskduck: You need to burn the ISO to a CD drive
[11:18] <scott_free_> how do i do a hardware switch?
[11:18] <hummerpas> I have installed some XBMCbuntu version on a mediaplayer, xbmc auto loads when I boot the machine, what file is it that makes that happen if I want to edit it?
[11:18] <theadmin> deskduck: After which boot from that CD and use it
[11:18] <randomnewb> deskduck make sure to burn as an image and not the ISO file itself.
[11:19] <deskduck> I installed xp from an exe file that was in the cd, how different is ubuntu from windows?
[11:19] <theadmin> deskduck: A lot. "exe" is a Windows program, which Ubuntu won't even run so... Don't try to find anything. Burn the CD and boot from it.
[11:19] <RadiumCat> hello, is there a way to ivona TTS voices, or AT&T voices, in ubuntu?
 its grayed out andi cant access it, i installed b43 before and rebooted its still there
[11:20] <Shiu> anyone know what to do if a pulseaudio profile is not showing up?
 have you heard of that?
[11:20] <deskduck> ok thanks , just need a hint, what should I need to do after installing ubuntu?
[11:21] <valentin> c'est en français?
[11:21] <llutz_> !manual | deskduck
[11:21] <Halexander9000> Is there a tool on Puppy linux that can help me put Ubuntu on a thumb drive?
[11:21] <valentin> bonjour ubottu
[11:21] <ikonia> Halexander9000: ask in #puppylinux
[11:21] <ictxiangxin> theadmin: I do it!, thank you ^_^
[11:21] <overclucker> deskduck: just pop the cd in, make sure your bios boot order had CD before HD, and reboot the computer
[11:21] <theadmin> Halexander9000: We don't support Puppy, but if you're using the 11.10 image, please just dd it onto your drive
[11:22] <Halexander9000> ikonia: Puppylinux is dead.
[11:22] <theadmin> Halexander9000: If you're using pre-11.10 version(s), use Unetbootin
[11:23] <Halexander9000> Unetbootin won't see my Usb drives. Neither the wine version.
[11:23] <evilmight> ciao a tutti, ho appena installato ubuntu ma non riesco a trovare la mia rete wireless
[11:23] <evilmight> non so proprio come muovermi
[11:23] <Halexander9000> Neither the Universal USB installer will see my usb drives.
[11:24] <theadmin> Halexander9000: Well, that's your distro's problem honestly. We can't support puppy
[11:24] <theadmin> Halexander90001: Again, if you're using the 11.10 image you can just dd it onto the drive, problem solved
[11:25] <Halexander90001> dd?
[11:25] <deskduck> what is this distrowatch? it says this os "linux mint" is on 2nd rank, I dont see ubuntu anywhere, what is this linux mint? Do I get mint ?
[11:25] <Halexander90001> theadmin: What does dd mean?
[11:25] <theadmin> Halexander90001: Run a command like this as root: dd if=/path/to/ubuntu11.10.iso of=/dev/sdX (where X is a, b, etc)
[11:26] <theadmin> deskduck: Don't. We don't support Mint.
[11:26] <deskduck> what is this mint? theadmin
[11:26] <Halexander90001> theadmin: I'll try
[11:26] <llutz_> !mint | deskduck ask there
[11:26] <theadmin> deskduck: An *unsupported*, *unofficial* Ubuntu derivative. We don't help with it nor answer questions about it.
[11:27] <hummerpas> Anyone that knows how I can see what application is being run on boot?
[11:27] <deskduck> what is this derivative? and what do you mean by support that you mentioned earlier?
[11:28] <deskduck> ?
[11:28] <overclucker> hummerpas: dmesg, expect a lot of output. started programs should be near the end
[11:28] <theadmin> deskduck: By support I mean answer questions of any kind about it here.
[11:28] <Halexander90001> theadmin: Something is happening.
[11:28] <theadmin> Halexander90001: Very well then.
[11:28] <deskduck> what is this derivative? and what do you mean by support that you mentioned earlier?
[11:29] <theadmin> deskduck: By support I mean answer questions of any kind about it here.
[11:29] <theadmin> deskduck: "derivative" means an OS based on Ubuntu, but not Ubuntu.
[11:29] <deskduck> ohh i got it, but then what is this derivative? is it economics related?
[11:29] <deskduck> ohh
[11:30] <deskduck> means ubuntu is a derivative of linux mint?
[11:30] <Halexander90001> theadmin: I accidentally pressed ctrl+c when I tried to copy the command I used. Canceled the whole process.
[11:30] <randomnewb> no deskduck.
[11:30] <auronandace> deskduck: other way around
[11:30] <deskduck> I see
[11:30] <randomnewb> Mint is based on Ubuntu.
[11:30] <deskduck> but then why is no one using mint?
[11:31] <auronandace> deskduck: do you have a ubuntu support question?
[11:31] <theadmin> deskduck: They are using it, but people here only answer questions about Ubuntu
[11:31] <deskduck> ohh got it
[11:31] <theadmin> auronandace: Don't be harsh with the newbie, gotta explain why we support only buntus :D
[11:31] <Halexander90001> theadmin: How is the terminal going to tell me when it's done?
[11:32] <theadmin> Halexander90001: Just return you to a the prompt ("user@hostname:dir$"
[11:32] <auronandace> theadmin: sorry you misinterperated my question
[11:32] <overclucker> hummerpas: oops, command try cat /var/log/boot.log
[11:32] <Halexander90001> # dd if=/mnt/home/Downloads/ubuntu-11.10-desktop-i386.iso of=/dev/sdb1
[11:32] <Halexander90001> 1423960+0 records in
[11:32] <Halexander90001> 1423960+0 records out
[11:32] <Halexander90001> 729067520 bytes (729 MB) copied, 100.679 s, 7.2 MB/s
[11:32] <Halexander90001> #
[11:32] <deskduck> but if mint is ubuntu based, then why cant i get support for linux mint?
[11:32] <FloodBot1> Halexander90001: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[11:32] <theadmin> Halexander90001: You did it wrong
[11:32] <Halexander90001> Whoops.
[11:32] <deskduck> is it the same of different?
[11:32] <auronandace> deskduck: you can get  support for linux mint, just not here
[11:32] <theadmin> Halexander90001: dd if=/mnt/home/Downloads/ubuntu-11.10-desktop-i386.iso of=/dev/sdb
[11:33] <JermBob> deskduck obviously different if its called mint not ubuntu
[11:33] <theadmin> Halexander90001: Without the "1". To the drive, not the partition :)
[11:33] <Halexander90001> theadmin: 729067520 bytes (729 MB) copied, 100.679 s, 7.2 MB/s
[11:33] <randomnewb> Seek the appropriate forums for forks/derivatives.
[11:33] <deskduck> thanks
[11:33] <theadmin> deskduck: Mint isn't Ubuntu though -- they change things and we can't keep track of all their changes
[11:34] <deskduck> theadmin, understood
[11:34] <randomnewb> They become too much of their own thing.
[11:34] <Halexander90001> What difference does it make theadmin? The indicator light on my thumbdrive was working.
[11:34] <randomnewb> If that explains it.
[11:34] <deskduck> alright, have to install ubuntu, see you
[11:34] <deskduck> and thanks for the suggestions
[11:35] <deskduck> glad to receive support
[11:35] <deskduck> :)
[11:35] <auronandace> Halexander90001: it wouldn't boot if you just copied it to a partition
[11:35] <theadmin> Halexander90001: Won't work though, no boot sector this way
[11:36] <theadmin> Halexander90001: Well, the boot sector is there, but in the wrong place altogether (on the partition rather than MBR) so it won't boot
[11:36] <Halexander90001> auronandace: theadmin: Erm, is it supposed to fill my usb drive with files with weird names?
[11:36] <vavoysh> Is there a way to restore a system to how it was a day before? Like a windows system restore?
[11:36] <Halexander90001> Glitchy characters I mean.
[11:36] <theadmin> Halexander90001: It is. But please re-run the command without the "1", or else it won't boot
[11:36] <theadmin> Halexander90001: Ah... No, it's not
[11:36] <auronandace> Halexander90001: define "weird" :)
[11:37] <Halexander90001> Just a sec.
[11:37] <theadmin> vavoysh: Not unless you backed it up a day before
[11:37] <theadmin> vavoysh: Or something.
[11:37] <randomnewb> Halexander90001: are the file sizes  "weird" too?
[11:37] <Halexander90001> theadmin: 8"?í*?ª?.NX is the first file I see.
[11:37] <theadmin> Halexander90001: That ain't... supposed to be there
[11:38] <theadmin> Halexander90001: But then again you didn't quite run the command right so it might give weird results like those, yeah
[11:38] <Halexander90001> It says error: input/output error.
[11:38] <theadmin> I dunno...
[11:38] <Halexander90001> I'll try again.
[11:38] <randomnewb> Bad file system maybe?
[11:38] <theadmin> Halexander90001: Try it like this exactly: dd if=/mnt/home/Downloads/ubuntu-11.10-desktop-i386.iso of=/dev/sdb
[11:38] <geirha> Halexander90001: If the usb drive was mounted while you ran the dd, that would explain the corrupt looking fs
[11:38] <theadmin> geirha: Point.
[11:39] <theadmin> Halexander90001: And yes, please make sure the drive is not mounted when you run the dd
[11:39] <vavoysh> theadmin: awesome. Is it possible to use the default (for 11.04) volume control meter for alsa? I removed pulseaudio for alsa, hoping it would fix some sound problems, but it didn't, so I want to switch back, only I can't figure out how
[11:39] <dddbmt> On a 11.10 laptop I've connected two external monitors and turned off the laptop screen. Which all works properly. But it there a way force which monitor should be primary? (i.e. the on that holds the unity menu and the global topbar)
[11:39] <zacarias> if everything freezes and you can't even start terminal to run a "killall" command, what shall you do? Is there a jkeyboard shortcut to force apps to quit or you just have to force the computer to restart?
[11:39] <theadmin> vavoysh: Oh boy... Not sure really. Never had sound problems no matter what I used so I always just left it be :D
[11:39] <theadmin> zacarias: Hit Alt-SysRQ-K
[11:39] <Halexander90001> theadmin: Not mounted. Oh, I see then.
[11:39] <theadmin> zacarias: That will force a log out
[11:40] <vavoysh> theadmin: Do you think I can like reinstall it from disk?
[11:40] <theadmin> vavoysh: Probably... I dunno how to
[11:40] <zacarias> theadmin: what's the SysRQ key?
[11:41] <theadmin> Halexander90001: So run the following as root: umount /dev/sdb1 && dd if=/mnt/home/Downloads/ubuntu-11.10-desktop-i386.iso of=/dev/sdb
[11:41] <randomnewb> Print screen?
[11:41] <auronandace> !sysrq | zacarias
[11:41] <theadmin> zacarias: Normally same key as printscreen
[11:41] <a_c_m> when using remote desktop - how can i force it to listen on my wireless card? As at the moment i can't connect to the desktop except via localhost
[11:41] <Halexander90001> theadmin: I didn't have to do that. I just unmounted it from my desktop.
[11:41] <randomnewb> What's the paste site for long lines?
[11:41] <zacarias> ok! Thanks
[11:41] <theadmin> Halexander90001: Not sure that works, but ok :D
[11:41] <aguitel> how install flashplugin?
[11:42] <theadmin> randomnewb: http://paste.ubuntu.com is our official one, there's a TON of others though
[11:42] <theadmin> aguitel: sudo apt-get install flashplugin-installer
[11:42] <Halexander90001> theadmin: It -is- Puppeee linux afterall. Who knows what horrible wonders it has besides that.
[11:42] <theadmin> Halexander90001: Ah "pupeee"? The one for eeepc? I tried that... horrified by it really lol
[11:43] <vavoysh> theadmin: well, time to start messing with the system more. What's the worst that can happen?
[11:43] <aguitel> theadmin, thanks
[11:44] <theadmin> vavoysh: The worst? Destroying the BIOS and ALL THE DATA probably ;) But that'd be rather... difficult
[11:44] <Halexander90001> theadmin: Now you know why I'm so desperate to get out of it.
[11:44] <vavoysh> theadmin: :P
[11:45] <damo22> theadmin: destroying the bios? that would suck
[11:47] <theadmin> damo22: Well, doesn't quite make it impossible though
[11:47] <Halexander90001> theadmin: Um, now it won't mount. Is is supposed to do that?
[11:47] <Halexander90001> it*
[11:48] <damo22> theadmin: would be easier to take a hammer to the mb
[11:48] <theadmin> Halexander90001: Depends. It won't mount as a USB drive anymore (not till you clean out the partition table), cause now it's pretty much a CD xD
[11:48] <Halexander90001> theadmin: So...how do I check it to make sure it works?
[11:49] <theadmin> Halexander90001: Try booting from it?
[11:49] <Halexander90001> Fine.
[11:49] <dns53> Halexander90001   mount -o loop file mountpoint
[11:54] <randomnewb> Hello.
[11:55] <randomnewb> Is this partitioning okay? http://paste.ubuntu.com/836447/
[11:56] <theadmin> randomnewb: You don't really need separate /opt, /var, /usr...
[11:56] <theadmin> randomnewb: Only /home maybe and /boot
[11:57] <randomnewb> I'm kinda picky about sorting.
[11:57] <usuario_> olaa
[11:58] <randomnewb> I know /home is like the User folders in windoze.
[11:58] <theadmin> randomnewb: Yeah
[11:59] <theadmin> randomnewb: Well, that's why you need separate /home, to preserve userdata between reinstalls
[11:59] <theadmin> randomnewb: Separate /boot is an ages-old tradition, no idea why they do it actually
[12:00] <randomnewb> Old traditions stick like two hard drive magnets put together.
[12:01] <randomnewb> Do you know a good chat for general GNU/Linux software discussion?
[12:02] <auronandace> randomnewb: could try ##linux
[12:03] <randomnewb> ok
[12:03] <randomnewb> Think one basic hardware question is okay here?
[12:04] <auronandace> randomnewb: if you're trying to get it working with ubuntu then likely yes
[12:04] <vavoysh> Hi again. Anyone know what the name of the default sound manager package is called in 11.04? I tried reinstalling ubuntu-desktop, didn't restore it
[12:04] <randomnewb> Think a dual Xeon would be a good "jack of all trades master of none system"?
[12:08] <randomnewb> auruoandace: need more info?
[12:08] <Steevca> I have tried forcing a 1152x864 resolution with xrandr and i got it to work but after the restart it gets back to 1024x768 and reporthing that the monitor poroperties could not be stored or something like that.How can i make a resolution work after the restart?
[12:09] <auronandace> randomnewb: its not really ubuntu specific
[12:10] <amityadav9314> what is ubuntu
[12:10] <auronandace> !ubuntu | amityadav9314
[12:10] <amityadav9314> Why to use it ?
[12:11] <auronandace> amityadav9314: why not?
[12:11] <amityadav9314> auronandace: when we have Fedora?
[12:11] <bazhang> !ot | amityadav9314
[12:11] <auronandace> amityadav9314: up to you what you want to use, do you need any help with ubuntu?
[12:12] <amityadav9314> auronandace: Why Gnome 3 does not work in ubuntu 11.04?
[12:13] <auronandace> amityadav9314: because it was new then, it works in 11.10
[12:13] <amityadav9314> auronandace: What if our graphics does not support?
[12:14] <bazhang> amityadav9314, did you have an actual support issue with Ubuntu? what version are you using, for example
[12:14] <auronandace> amityadav9314: then you can't use it, i think it reverts to a fallback mode (not ure though since i don't use gnome at all)
[12:14] <ubuntuaddicted> amityadav9314, what graphics?
[12:15] <ubuntuaddicted> amityadav9314, nvidia or ati chipset?
[12:15] <bazhang> amityadav9314, if your card does not support it, then you cannot use some of the features.
[12:15] <amityadav9314> auronandace: But i have heard some Software rendering, what is that?
[12:21] <CJKay> amityadav9314: Software rendering means all the graphics rendering is done on the CPU instead of with your graphics hardware
[12:23] <amityadav9314> CJKAY: Thanks, but one more questions  I would like to ask that if gnome 3 will support soft\ware rendering, will it be able to work properly on all kinds of graphics card, as till now gnome 3 goes to fallback mode in my syystem
[12:23] <gener1c> i am setting up pure-ftpd on my virtual server and i am getting a weird error when trying to run it
[12:24] <gener1c> 421 Unable to switch capabilities : Operation not permitted
[12:24] <gener1c> i tried to google it and all i see is people saying it should be recompiled without competabilities
[12:25] <CJKay> amityadav9314: Fallback mode uses software rendering
[12:25] <CJKay> It "falls back" onto software if it can't use hardware rendering
[12:26] <dumbra> for some reason my touchpad stopped working -- i can use multi-touch functions still, but regular cursor-ing is not working?
[12:26] <dbugger> Hey guys. is it still possible to use Docky as a "keyboard launcher"?
[12:27] <norbert_> hey all, I'm doing the ffmpeg/x264 compile thing from the forum, and configure says "Warning: libavformat is not supported without swscale support"
[12:27] <norbert_> is that a problem or can I continue the guide?
[12:29] <glenn> When a patch is supllied to debian upstream, what exactly are the steps needed to get it into the ubuntu package?
[12:29] <theadmin> glenn: Best to ask in #ubuntu-devel I believe.
[12:29] <glenn> tnx
[12:30] <Steevca> I have used xrandr --newmode to add a 1152x864 resolution,but when i restarted the pc i got back to 1024x768 and the pop out on the right reported that i could not store the monitor properities or something like that,how do force a 1152x864 resolution to work after the restart?
[12:31] <Seherezada> hi
[12:31] <ikonia> hello Seherezada
[12:33] <randomnewb> Any other general chat besides ##linux?
[12:33] <jrib> randomnewb: #ubuntu-offtopic
[12:34] <ikonia> randomnewb: #defocus
[12:34] <randomnewb> Still software related though.
[12:34] <jrib> randomnewb: what exactly do you want help with?
[12:36] <theadmin> Steevca: xorg.conf
[12:36] <randomnewb> I got 100,000 downloaded images would photo management software be the wrong approach?
[12:36] <jrib> randomnewb: wrong approach for what?
[12:36] <Steevca> theadmin: Well i don't have it in X11
[12:37] <randomnewb> Managing the images.
[12:37] <theadmin> Steevca: Yeah you need to create one
[12:37] <jrib> randomnewb: I'd hope not
[12:37] <ikonia> randomnewb: how else can you managed them ?
[12:37] <ikonia> randomnewb: if you don't use software, what is your option ? by hand ?
[12:37] <Steevca> theadmin: Can you tell me how to do it,i am new with ubuntu?
[12:37] <randomnewb> Yes.
[12:37] <jrib> randomnewb: do what works for *you*
[12:37] <theadmin> Steevca: What exactly is your purpose, do you need only *one* resolution available? List all you'd like to have please
[12:38] <Steevca> theadmin:  i just need the 1152x864 because ati droped the support for my card and there are no drivers,but with open drivers i just have 1024x768 and 800x600
[12:38] <theadmin> Steevca: I see, mk
[12:39] <njaxx> When does support from 10.10 end?
[12:39] <Steevca> As i mentioned,i have used a xrandr --newmode and cvt to get it to work,but after the restart it fails back to 1024x768.
[12:40] <auronandace> !10.10 | njaxx
[12:40] <jeffry> soprano
[12:40] <jrib> njaxx: 18 months after it was released (10.10 means 2010 october)
[12:40] <theadmin> Steevca: Here you go: https://pzt.me/1o04
[12:40] <tgywa> hi
[12:40] <tgywa> I am new to IRC
[12:40] <jeffry> hi
[12:40] <slobro> hello
[12:40] <tgywa> have I joined Ubuntu channel now ?
[12:40] <slobro> yeah
[12:40] <jeffry> can u explaine me like work mirc??
[12:40] <Steevca> theadmin:  Ok,thanks.Now how do i make a xorg.conf?
[12:40] <tgywa> Thank u
[12:40] <auronandace> tgywa: yes
[12:40] <njaxx> rjib - thanks
[12:41] <tgywa> auronandace: thank you !
[12:41] <jeffry> someone can help me
[12:41] <theadmin> Steevca: Just open it in your favorite text editor and paste that in, like this: gksu gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[12:41] <randomnewb> jrib: I have really long trees since camera metadata is N/A or unimportant on stuff I didn't photograph myself.
[12:41] <theadmin> Steevca: Make sure to *not* paste the line numbers tho xD
[12:41] <jeffry> ok but if i want downloand one movie
[12:41] <jeffry> ?
[12:42] <Steevca> theadmin i have pasted what you gave me xD
[12:42] <theadmin> Steevca: Meh here's a raw: https://pzt.me/1o04@raw
[12:43] <Steevca> theadmin:  Pasted and saved,now i just open the monitors prop. and set it ?
[12:43] <oCean> jeffry: there is nothing to download here, this is not a warez network
[12:43] <ikonia> jeffry: what do you need help with ?
[12:43] <theadmin> Steevca: You need to restart X (or better even reboot) first
[12:43] <Steevca> theadmin:  Ok,thanks a lot. :D
[12:46] <boobsbr> howdy
[12:46] <tgywa> Does anyone know popular RedHat channel ?
[12:46] <oCean> tgywa: there are #rhel, #fedora
[12:47] <boobsbr> I'm having problems mounting an external USB HDD, here's the dmesg output: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/836486/ is there any way to solve this?
[12:47] <tgywa> oCean: thank you !
[12:48] <randomnewb> jrib: still there?
[12:49] <winnie666> hello! Does casper have the functionality to mount multiple squashfs filesystems? i.e First mount the / squashfs, then mount /home (seperate squashfs), then mount /var (seperate squashfs)?
[12:50] <winnie666> if not would it be possible to mount / and then add scripts to "casper-bottom" to mount the other two
[12:51] <Steevca> theadmin New problem xD Now the monitor won't start. I get the black screen with wihte blinking line in the top left of the screen and after that the monior shuts down.
[12:51] <Steevca> I can't eaven get to ubuntu xD
[12:51] <theadmin> Steevca: Hmm... I'm not sure I wrote the config quite right then :( Okay, if you can get into a text mode then just delete the xorg.conf. And add that "xrandr --newmode" line to your startup apps, that'd be simplier
[12:52] <Steevca> Give me the command for deleting
[12:52] <theadmin> Steevca: sudo rm /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[12:58] <remoteCTRL1> if i map an ftp drive with nautilus' "connect to server" tool it afterwards always tries to open it with firefox instead of nautilus. how do i change this erratic behaviour?
[13:00] <remoteCTRL1> hello? am i allone, or why is it so quiet?
[13:01] <theadmin> remoteCTRL1: Guess everyone's asleep lol
[13:01] <remoteCTRL1> theadmin: hey there gal! :)
[13:01] <remoteCTRL1> seem so huh?
[13:02] <theadmin> remoteCTRL1: Um... hi.
[13:02] <libnotify> theadmin... gal?
[13:02] <libnotify> funny
[13:02] <remoteCTRL1> libnotify: y?
[13:03] <theadmin> libnotify: Well yep :P
[13:03] <libnotify> NP
[13:04] <libnotify> remoteCTRL1: i like it when its kinda silent in here
[13:05] <libnotify> and with polite ops...
[13:05] <remoteCTRL1> me too but not if i'm asking a question *g*
[13:06] <libnotify> didn't realize you had asked one
[13:15] <pushpop> what command can I use to see if my interface (eth0) is operating at a gig?
[13:16] <remoteCTRL1> ok i did the following:
[13:16] <remoteCTRL1> i opened /usr/share/applications/defaults.list with an editor and added:
[13:16] <arand> pushpop: You can see bitrate in iwconfig
[13:17] <remoteCTRL1> x-scheme-handler/ftp=nautilus.desktop
[13:17] <remoteCTRL1> x-scheme-handler/sftp=nautilus.desktop
[13:17] <remoteCTRL1> now nautilus opens ftp and sftp links with nautilus instead of firefox
[13:19] <lealem> can anyone help me to install graphics driver
[13:19] <ikonia> lealem: for what card ?
[13:20] <lealem> ikonia:ati
[13:20] <ikonia> ooh, !ati > lealem
[13:21] <Steevca> theadmin left?
[13:22] <Steevca> I have used xrandr --newmode "1152x864_60.00"   81.75  1152 1216 1336 1520  864 867 871 897 -hsync +vsync ,what is the last command after this to get it to work?
[13:26] <T_H_X> pushpop: lshw -C network      will show you
[13:27] <Steevca> When i use xrandr --output VGA-0 --mode 1152x864 i get xrandr: cannot find mode 1152x864,but i did evrything right,what can be the problem?
[13:27] <Steevca>  
[13:29] <T_H_X> ikonia: ?
[13:30] <T_H_X> ill have one o those
[13:30] <ikonia> T_H_X: what ?
[13:30] <yuko> i want to send attachment with mail
[13:30] <yuko> how shud i
[13:31] <ikonia> yuko: most mail clients have an attatchment option
[13:31] <ikonia> yuko: click it
[13:31] <T_H_X> clicky licky
[13:31] <T_H_X> oops
[13:31] <ikonia> T_H_X: what ?
[13:32] <yuko> i m using telnet to send email now i want to send attachment also with mail
[13:32] <yuko> ?
[13:32] <ikonia> yuko: you can't use telnet to send email
[13:32] <T_H_X> yuko: install mutt
[13:32] <yuko> i m
[13:32] <winnie666> in a non persistent live environment, if /usr /var and /etc were synced upon boot from a persistent system, would that be enough for most packages to function? In case i was unclear, do most installed packages keep install in the directories i just mentioned?
[13:32] <yuko> n already have been using it
[13:33] <T_H_X> ok
[13:33] <fireball> hello!
[13:33] <T_H_X> yuko: you can attach with that
[13:33] <T_H_X> ikonia: yes you canb
[13:33] <Guest65093> can somebody tell me how to configure conky?
[13:34] <ikonia> T_H_X: what, by telneting to port 25 and sendint an attatchment as binary in the "DATA" set
[13:34] <T_H_X> hehe
[13:34] <T_H_X> yep
[13:34] <Guest65093> can somebody tell me how to configure conky?
[13:34] <ikonia> T_H_X: ok, best to give realisitc answers
[13:34] <ikonia> !conky > Guest65093
[13:34] <T_H_X> i did ffs
[13:34] <ikonia> T_H_X: tone down the language
[13:34] <T_H_X> k
[13:34] <Guest65093> ? :)
[13:35] <ikonia> T_H_X: telling someone to send 10,000 lines of 01's in the "data" is not realistic
[13:35] <T_H_X> i said mutt
[13:35] <Guest65093> ikonia can you please tell me how to configure conky
[13:35] <Raphi974> Guest65093: there's a lot of shared configuration on the internet
[13:35] <Raphi974> Guest65093: search the Ubuntu forums
[13:36] <ikonia> !conky > Guest65093
[13:36] <ikonia> Guest65093: check the private message ubottu sent you
[13:36] <Guest65093> very funny ikonia
[13:36] <ikonia> Guest65093: I'm not joking
[13:36] <T_H_X> he is really, he's just shy
[13:37] <Guest65093> how do I check?
[13:37] <ikonia> Guest65093: check the private message window from the user ubottu, it's a bot to give you info
[13:38] <bazhang> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=867076 Guest65093
[13:38] <Guest65093> hey how do I check the msg? I am using xchat!
[13:38] <ikonia> Guest65093: you should see an extra tab
[13:38] <ikonia> Guest65093: from the user ubottu
[13:39] <bazhang> Guest65093, check the link I just gave you
[13:39] <fidel> Guest65093: how irc-clients present a private message window depends on the client
[13:39] <ErwinJunge> Hi, I used to use i915_dri from dri-experimental from the xorg-edgers ppa to get gallium3d opengl, but this seems to have vanished with some recent update. Anyone here know how to get it back?
[13:39] <ikonia> ErwinJunge: whats vanished ?
[13:39] <fidel> so at the end - check your xchat window/s - somewhere there the bot should have send you a message containing informations
[13:39] <toter> Hi everybody. I would like to know if it's possible to use GPU processing to compile a kernel. It takes too damn long to compile a kernel. On Core 2 Duo machine it takes 42 minutes. Is it possible to compile a kernel faster?
[13:39] <fidel> apart from that - a short online-search will give you tons of example conky configurations
[13:39] <ikonia> toter: you don't do that
[13:39] <Guest65093> fidel, I use xchat, can you tell me how I check a private msg?
[13:39] <fidel> no - using irssi
[13:40] <Guest65093> fidel, I can download those configurations but I dont know how to apply
[13:40] <bazhang> Guest65093, I just linked you the conky starters guide, please read it
[13:40] <ErwinJunge> ikonia: The driver used to be in /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/dri-alternates/i915_dri.so, but this folder vanished
[13:40] <toter> ikonia: I don't do because...
[13:40] <ikonia> toter: because gcc is for x86 cpu's
[13:40] <ErwinJunge> I switched to it at runtime when programs needed GL2 support using LIBGL_DRIVERS_PATH=/usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/dri-alternates
[13:41] <ikonia> ErwinJunge: directories don't just delete themselves, so what have you done/enabled to delete that directory
[13:41] <Guest65093> thanks bazhang I am reading it nice one
[13:41] <blackwarrior77> !addon
[13:41] <ErwinJunge> ikonia: apt-get upgrade ;) The package I'm talking about is libgl1-mesa-dri-experimental
[13:41] <toter> ikonia: Got it. But… Shouldn't this be a project for computer science student? Somehow mix gcc and opencl to compile a kernel faster?
[13:42] <ikonia> ErwinJunge: you'll have to speak tot he PPA maintainer to see if there scripts updated/install remove the file
[13:42] <ikonia> toter: who cares ? make a project if you think there should be one
[13:42] <ErwinJunge> dpkg -L libgl1-mesa-dri-experimental now just shows a changelog and some settings, while it used to contain two alternative dri drivers (i915 gallium3d and llvmpipe)
[13:44] <xubuntu> hey guys
[13:44] <xubuntu> in xubuntu
[13:44] <xubuntu> i have a lil prob
[13:44] <xubuntu> i installed gnome-panel in it
[13:44] <Guest65093> can I have more than 2 conky monitors
[13:44] <xubuntu> and i got this problem
[13:44] <FloodBot1> xubuntu: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[13:44] <xubuntu> W: GPG-fout: http://nl.archive.ubuntu.com oneiric-backports Release: De volgende handtekeningen waren ongeldig: BADSIG 40976EAF437D05B5 Ubuntu Archive Automatic Signing Key <ftpmaster@ubuntu.com>
[13:44] <ikonia> Guest65093: sure
[13:45] <sattu94> what if somebodys typing is really fast ?
[13:45] <Guest65093> then do I need 2 seperate conky files?
[13:45] <sattu94> does it still count as flooding ?
[13:45] <xubuntu> W: GPG-fout: http://nl.archive.ubuntu.com oneiric-backports Release: De volgende handtekeningen waren ongeldig: BADSIG 40976EAF437D05B5 Ubuntu Archive Automatic Signing Key <ftpmaster@ubuntu.com>
[13:45] <ikonia> Guest65093: no you can append monitors
[13:45] <ikonia> sattu94: yes, it does,
[13:45] <martin_tsc> trying to set a VPN up, but not having success, any guidance?
[13:45] <ErwinJunge> ikonia: I figured it out from the changelog: "Drop the dri-alternates driver search path, and don't ship
[13:45] <ErwinJunge>     gallium version of i915_dri.so for now" --> So that's what happened. I'll go e-mail the committer to ask why :)
[13:45] <Guest65093> how?
[13:45] <xubuntu> guys
[13:45] <xubuntu> i have a problem
[13:45] <ikonia> xubuntu: youv'e said. please don't repeat
[13:45] <bazhang> xubuntu, yes we see
[13:46] <xubuntu> oh ok you have read it
[13:46] <xubuntu> you know what it is?
[13:46] <xubuntu> is anyone here dutch
[13:46] <bazhang> xubuntu, patience please
[13:46] <xubuntu> because what means this in english
[13:46] <xubuntu> onvolledige kopteksten
[13:46] <Guest65093> how to append the monitors?
[13:46] <martin_tsc> lol, he talks to much
[13:46] <oCean> xubuntu: /join #ubuntu-nl for support in Dutch
[13:46] <xubuntu> ok
[13:46] <ErwinJunge> xubuntu: I am Dutch. The GPG key is invalid. No idea how to fix it though
[13:47] <ErwinJunge> Got to go, byebye
[13:47] <blacbloc> hi, i'm new to ubuntu and i'm wondering is there any application that i can use to send newsletters?
[13:47] <Guest65093> can someone give me a skin simple enough? for conky? the ones I find on the net seem too complex!
[13:48] <Guest65093> ?
[13:49] <ikonia> Guest65093: the forum post has basic information and examples
[13:49] <Guest65093> hmm
[13:49] <Guest65093> i see...
[13:50] <soee> hi, how can i replace some text with other text in all files and subdirectories in selected folder ?
[13:50] <arand> soee: combine find and sed?
[13:50] <soee> arand, never used it, gonna try
[13:51] <martin_tsc> would someone have a quick minute to look through some php and check for any basic syntax errors? http://pastebin.com/L4KzNzTS
[13:51] <blacbloc> how about that newsletter app? see my question above
[13:53] <smoothif1er> i have 16GB RAM on a new machine.  the ubuntu download page suggests the 32 bit install.  if I do that, won't i lose access to 12GB of RAM?
[13:54] <s0> someone can help me?
[13:54] <bazhang> s0, with what
[13:54] <s0> help!!!!
[13:55] <Guest65093> how do I quit conky?
[13:55]  * smoothif1er dumps a bucket of water on s0
[13:55] <smoothif1er> should put out the flames
[13:55] <zzecool> s0: i let you die in agony
[13:55] <s0> bazhang,i forget my windowsxp password
[13:55] <zzecool> ;p lol
[13:55] <bazhang> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Mailman blacbloc
[13:55] <bazhang> s0, ##windows
[13:56] <arand> soee: Something like "find dir/ -exec sed -i 's/string1/string2/g' {} \;"
[13:56] <s0> help me get it from ubuntu
[13:56] <s0> bazhang,can you help me
[13:56] <zzecool> s0: This is not a hacking help irc channel
[13:56] <bazhang> s0, /join ##windows for help with that
[13:57] <s0> ok,thank you bazhang
[13:57] <theadmin> s0: I can help if you PM me. I can't help you *get* the password, but I'll be glad to help you change it
[13:58] <loganrun> I am trying to figure out why the window manager unity is so much slower than unity2d, I have a pretty high end graphics card
[13:58] <smoothifier> i have 16GB RAM on a new machine.  the ubuntu download page suggests the 32 bit install.  if I do that, won't i lose access to 12GB of RAM? Sorry if this comes up twice
[13:58] <fidel> smoothifier: go for 64
[13:59] <smoothifier> that's what i thought.  thanks :)
[13:59] <loganrun> smoothifier, I am not sure but I think the pae kernel allows access
[13:59] <arand> smoothifier: You will be a ble to use all RAM, but not get the full benefits of it.
[13:59] <loganrun> smoothifier, I have more than what is natively supported by 32 bit but did not have any issues
[14:00] <arand> !pae
[14:00] <whiskers75> I have a Toshiba Portege 400 laptop and need help with it
[14:00] <hypnocat> does anyone know how i can find out the URL for the source tar archive that a given package was built from?
[14:00] <fidel> matcinh launchpad entry: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-website-content/+bug/585940
[14:00] <libnotify> ubottu you are offtopic
[14:00] <libnotify> bots have to remain silent
[14:01] <theadmin> libnotify: Not when they are asked to speak.
[14:01] <theadmin> libnotify: That's the point of bots anyway
[14:01] <bazhang> libnotify, thats enough
[14:01] <libnotify> why am i getting attacked now?
[14:01] <whiskers75> how do you configure a Toshiba Portege 4000's wireless card to work with Ubuntu 10.10?
[14:01] <libnotify> bazhang: stfu for now, pls
[14:01] <loganrun> has anyone else found unity to be much slower than unity2d
[14:02] <smoothifier> 64 bit is tricky when you have 32 bit binaries, right?  i seem to remember jumping through some hoops with the 64 bit install
[14:02] <theadmin> loganrun: That's true, especially without proper drivers.
[14:02] <bazhang> libnotify, thats not acceptable here
[14:02] <bazhang> whiskers75, whats the wifi chipset
[14:02] <libnotify> ok jump from a tree and land on your neck
[14:02] <theadmin> smoothifier: Not really, install ia32-libs (or what's that package called...) and you'll mostly have 32-bit compatibility
[14:02] <fidel> smoothifier: i hadent any issues so far in the last years
[14:02] <theadmin> smoothifier: Moreover, most apps nowadays are 64-bit native anyway
[14:03] <loganrun> theadmin, well I have an nvidia card and have the nvidia drivers installed from the manufacturer
[14:03] <whiskers75> bazhang, how do I find that out?
[14:03] <bazhang> whiskers75, if pci then lspci usb lsusb
[14:03] <libnotify> aha
[14:03] <smoothifier> seems like they should be.  i've just had older hardware until now :/
[14:03] <Saiko223> One of my harddisks broke down. How do I move the folder Movies to the folder downloads? (sdb1 broke down) http://pastebin.com/zjVEau3X in fstab
[14:03] <libnotify> no work done...:)
[14:03] <paraxxo> which ubuntu disto is for weaker computers lubuntu or xubuntu i got confused??
[14:03] <smoothifier> ok thanks, i'll give it a shot :)
[14:03] <bazhang> paraxxo, lubuntu
[14:03] <loganrun> last time I tried it seemed like 64 bit support was not as good as 32 bit
[14:04] <libnotify> paraxxo: damn small linux
[14:04] <theadmin> paraxxo: Both are, but Lubuntu is more of productive and much less eye candy, Xubuntu still has some :D
[14:04] <loganrun> I mean web browser plugins and stuff did not seem easy to come by in 64 bit versions
[14:04] <styelz> :)
[14:04] <whiskers75> bazhang, I cant find anything which says wifi or the sort...
[14:04] <bazhang> libnotify, this is ubuntu support, please remain on topic
[14:04] <theadmin> loganrun: Huh... Not really, Flash is native 64-bit, Java is native... what other plugins do you need
[14:04] <fidel> loganrun: example?
[14:04] <libnotify> ubuntu is linux
[14:04] <riff> anyone?
[14:04] <riff> waddup ya'all
[14:05] <paraxxo> Yeah ty , but idc about effects and stuff , all i want is the latest drivers and the fast boot ubuntu
[14:05] <libnotify> riff sup
[14:05] <riff> waddup libnotify :P
[14:05] <bazhang> libnotify, do you have an actual support issue? chit chat in #ubuntu-offtopic NOT here
[14:05] <Xeli> hey, I'm having problems with executing a certain file: http://pastebin.com/ZUKiM1uV
[14:05] <loganrun> well I used to use a VPN client for the company I worked for which would only run on 32 bit java
[14:05] <libnotify> will ignore you
[14:06] <riff> xeli mark it as executable ;)
[14:06] <Xeli> riff: it is, if you look at the pastebin, it should be atleast..
[14:06] <oCean> libnotify: as long as you don't ignore channel guidelines and CoC
[14:06] <paraxxo> theadmin: so what kind of lubuntu should i get for my weak computer
[14:06] <riff> ok dud.
[14:06] <Steevca> How do i restore basic settings for monitors?
[14:06] <bazhang> paraxxo, there is just the one
[14:06] <theadmin> paraxxo: Uh, Lubuntu. Just Lubuntu, there're no "kinds" of it
[14:06] <libnotify> will do what i want
[14:06] <whiskers75> bazhang: does this help? http://reviews.cnet.com/laptops/toshiba-portege-4000-pentium/1707-3121_7-8654203.html
[14:06] <loganrun> flash used to be a problem and java always seemed screwed up, you go to the sun site to download it and it said you had to have an intel chip and stuff
[14:07] <paraxxo> theadmin: i mean like "alternative" or "desktop" and stuff
[14:07] <styelz> heha
[14:07] <theadmin> loganrun: openjdk works fine, and Flash is native nowadays
[14:07] <mo0n_sniper> Oi mates
[14:07] <theadmin> paraxxo: Desktop, unless you want a CLI installer (then get alternative)
[14:07] <mo0n_sniper> how do you restart inetd in ubuntu?
[14:07] <theadmin> mo0n_sniper: sudo service DAEMONNAME restart # Normally does the trick, so
[14:08] <paraxxo> theadmin: oh i get it now , and which one should be faster ? 11.10 or 10.04 ?
[14:08] <riff> try executing it in elevated privilege?
[14:08] <theadmin> paraxxo: Just get the latest
[14:08] <loganrun> thadmin: is openjdk 100% compatible though with the sun native versions
[14:08] <whiskers75> How do you get a Toshiba Portege 4000's wifi set working on Ubuntu 10.10?
[14:08] <paraxxo> theadmin: you dont get it , i have a really slow computer
[14:08] <Steevca> theadmin: Hey i have deleted the xorg.conf but the problem is that in monitor prop. the mode is 1024x768 and i xrandr is 1152x864 so i can't configure it with xrandr again,how do i delete it from xrandr?
[14:08] <mo0n_sniper> theadmin: inetd is not found
[14:08] <Xeli> riff: I've tried to run it under sudo, same thing
[14:08] <riff> @whiskers75 install a restricted driver if its available
[14:08] <arand> Xeli: What kind of file is it in the first place, a bash script?
[14:08] <bazhang> whiskers75, do you have access to the machine now
[14:08] <theadmin> paraxxo: I do, still. Lubuntu is lightweight no matter which you choose
[14:09] <theadmin> mo0n_sniper: xinetd maybe?
[14:09] <paraxxo> theadmin: ok thanks very much
[14:09] <Xeli> arand: "ELF 32-bit LSB executable, Intel 80386, version 1 (SYSV), dynamically linked"
[14:09] <Xeli> I wonder if it's compiled for a different cpu arch..
[14:09] <whiskers75> bazhang, I am typing using Pidgin on it! :)
[14:09] <riff> it should work just fine. i dunno :S xeli
[14:10] <arand> Xeli: I would guess it might be an ARM binary, though I don't know if that woulkd cause that error...
[14:10] <kuribas> Hi, I installed the newest version of ubuntu and it broke several programs!
[14:10] <bazhang> whiskers75, ok, is it internal, or usb; open a terminal and type lspci if the former and lsusb if the latter and paste.ubuntu.com with the output
[14:10] <riff> kuribas what? O.o
[14:10] <kuribas> The computer wouldn't turn off by itself, and now I cannot even startup!
[14:10] <whiskers75> bazhang, how do I paste.ubuntu.com...?
[14:10] <Xeli> arand: it's not an arm binary, it's to crosscompile to arm, hence it must be x86, still I find the error odd, perhaps it's missing a library
[14:10] <theadmin> !paste | whiskers75
[14:11] <bazhang> whiskers75, from a browser, go to that website
[14:11] <riff> kuribas dont u have any other operating system installed? try updating the installation or reinstall it without skipping any files
[14:11] <Steevca> theadmin: this is what i got with xrandr http://paste.ubuntu.com/836562/
[14:11] <whiskers75> bazhang, OK. Trying that now...
[14:11] <theadmin> Steevca: Well that looks normal
[14:11] <kuribas> riff, I only kept my home directory...
[14:11] <kuribas> riff, it's on a different drive.
[14:11] <paraxxo> theadmin: oh and i wonder why xubuntu require only 190mb of ram and lubuntu wants 380
[14:12] <kuribas> riff, I did a fresh install from CD.
[14:12] <arand> Xeli: Yeah, given the error is from bash, it seems as though it would be a miss in the execution command rather than in the binary...
[14:12] <theadmin> paraxxo: Really? Hm. I know XFCE for a very lightweight dekstop, but Lubuntu is considered more lightweight for *some* reason, not sure why
[14:12] <riff> kuribas, do a clean install again and make sure you dont skip any part of the installation :S
[14:12] <riff> what are your system specs?
[14:12] <arand> Xeli: If you use the full path or so to it?
[14:12] <kuribas> riff, but I can keep my home directory?
[14:12] <whiskers75> bazhang, done, the link is http://paste.ubuntu.com/836564/plain/
[14:12] <Steevca> theadmin: But when i try to add new mode i get this : X Error of failed request:  BadName (named color or font does not exist)
[14:13] <theadmin> paraxxo: Hey just try both and see which works for you :D
[14:13] <kuribas> riff, AMD dual core processor X2
[14:13] <Xeli> arand: exactly the same problem, I've actually come across this problem using a make script(which works on another box)
[14:13] <whiskers75> Steevca, I had the same problem - the answer is change the xorg.conf file.
[14:13] <riff> kuribas, take a backup using a bootable DOS cd on any other drive and do a clean install
[14:14] <paraxxo> theadmin: oh and i wonder why xubuntu require only 190mb ram and lubuntu wants 380 ,
[14:14] <kapz> Hi! OS: ubuntu 11.10, Scanner is USB Canon LiDE 110 flatbed, simplescan/xscanimage detects the scanner but when a document is scanned there is nothing but a white image..help!
[14:14] <bazhang> Whiskey, I dont see a wireless card there, try lsusb and pastebin that
[14:14] <riff> is it possible to install windows inside linux? :-p
[14:14] <Steevca> whiskers75: I deleted the xorg.conf  This is the complete error http://paste.ubuntu.com/836566/
[14:14] <kuribas> riff, I'll try, but I don't see what would be different?
[14:14] <whiskers75> bazhang, ok.
[14:14] <bazhang> riff, with vbox
[14:14] <kuribas> riff, it was already a fresh install
[14:15]  * sattu94 hasn't used Windows in a while..
[14:15] <riff> well the installation doesnt go well sometimes, which version did u install? make sure u have the latest one i.e 11.04
[14:15] <riff> i mean 11.10
[14:15] <kuribas> riff, yes 11.10
[14:15] <riff> vbox, sure to try :P
[14:15] <kuribas> riff, Ok, I'll see.
[14:15] <riff> kuribas, can u rephrase your situation?
[14:16] <whiskers75> Steevca, Using xrandr wont work - as I said, ask around for details on how to change the xorg.conf file to fit your needs.
[14:16]  * sattu94 kicked libnotify
[14:17] <riff> :) ubuntu rocks :)
[14:17] <riff> well that was a lie
[14:17] <riff> lol
[14:17] <whiskers75> bazhang, here it is http://paste.ubuntu.com/836567/plain/
[14:17] <riff> unity was the worst thing that could happen to ubuntu, ever..
[14:17] <arand> Xeli: Are you on a 64bit system?
[14:17] <kuribas> riff, I installed ubuntu 11.10 and kept my old home directory.  Now when I startup I see a screen which is too large for my screen, with the GRUB menu, and then it freezes.
[14:17] <Seashell> Ocean you son of a bitch, i can sign in from anywhere with any nick. Fuck you!
[14:17] <arand> !ot riff
[14:18] <kuribas> riff, it worked ok a week or so ago.
[14:18] <Xeli> arand: yes I am
[14:18] <kuribas> riff, ok, I'll do another install and report back :-)
[14:18] <riff> kuribas, the home folder doesnt hold any significant stuff. so the problem lies with the installation!
[14:18] <riff> :) ok kuribas :P
[14:18] <kuribas> riff, that's what I figured...
[14:18] <arand> Xeli: Ah, then it's simply the error of not finding 32bit compatibility libs, I'm guessing
[14:18] <riff> well thats the truth, a new cleannn install is the only path to 'e-salvation' ;)
[14:19] <Steevca1> Ok i got it to work,but now when i use the addmode VGA-0 1152x864 command it gives me back the : xrandr: cannot find mode "1152x864"
[14:19] <Xeli> arand: ahh yes, I remember installing them on my other box, that's probably it
[14:19] <bazhang> whiskers75, thats not a wifi chipset
[14:19] <riff> ffffffffffuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu facebook just deactivated my account, twice in a month now. m sick.
[14:19] <arand> Xeli: Either get a 64bit variant of the sdk or install ia32libs or whatever it's called
[14:19] <bazhang> !ot | riff
[14:19] <Steevca1> theadmin: Any ideas what can i do now?
[14:20] <riff> !ot | bazhang
[14:20] <riff> :P
[14:20] <whiskers75> bazhang, well then maybe this computer doesn't have a wifi chipset!
[14:20] <bazhang> riff, stop it
[14:20] <riff> ok sirrrrr :) bazhang
[14:21] <riff> i av two gpus in my system, a basic powersaving one and an nvidia cuda one, i recently installed restricted drivers for nvidia. how do i know what gpu my system is using ?
[14:22] <Xeli> arand: yup, now it's working, thanks alot :)
[14:22] <whiskers75> I have a problem, I have configured a Belkin wireless card in my system (10.10) with ndiswrapper but when I plug it in, the computer starts freezing, then unfreezes, then freezes etc. Any help? If it helps this has always happened even when on Windows.
[14:23] <riff> theres a problem in ur wireless card not the ubuntu :P whiskers75
[14:23] <bazhang> whiskers75, its a belkin? was it plugged in when you ran lsusb?
[14:23] <bazhang> riff, thats not helpful
[14:23] <Steevca> Can i also update gnome 2.30 to gnome 3 in ubuntu 10.4 without to much risk of system fail?
[14:23] <arand> riff: glxinfo | grep OpenGL
[14:23] <Dweezahr> bazhang, riff is probably right
[14:23] <riff> i'm learning bazhang :|
[14:23] <whiskers75> bazhang, no I was talking about the internal wifi chipset, but never mind.
[14:24] <whiskers75> riff, I once did get it to work...
[14:24] <riff> whiskers75 the freezes n unfreezes are indeed hardware errors.. :s
[14:25] <roasted> Question - Why is it my Ubuntu laptop cannot smb://HTPC but my Macbook can? Why is it Ubuntu is not populating the DNS entries? I can do it via IP, but not through host names.
[14:25] <fidel> roasted: you run a local dns service?
[14:26] <whiskers75> riff, ok. thanks!
[14:26] <ikonia> roasted: dynamic dns ?
[14:26] <styelz> roasted: check /etc/resolv.conf
[14:26] <doherty> Is it possible to tell my ssh client which authentication mechanisms to use? I want it to skip attempting kerberos and gssapi-with-mic, which just slow things down.
[14:26] <Dweezahr> roasted, it is appletalk or another protocol that gives the dns name or the linux box hasnt configured dns properly
[14:26] <roasted> fidel: I'm not running anything in particular. Just verizon DSL - broadband router - etc.
[14:26] <roasted> Dweezahr: in OSX I'm using smb://HTPC @ connect to server. I'm not sure if that helps answer that or not.
[14:27] <Dweezahr> where's the @ for?
[14:27] <roasted> fidel: but would network manager not populate dns properly? It says my dns server is my router....
[14:27] <fidel> roasted: i would run dig on both boxes and compare the output
[14:27] <roasted> Dweezahr: I meant at the actual "connect to server" I use smb://HTPC
[14:27] <Dweezahr> okay
[14:27] <fidel> apple boxes tend to use apple-specific network voodoo in some corners
[14:28] <roasted> Dweezahr: I meant @ as a verbal expression. I didn't actually use it.
[14:28] <Dweezahr> then it is likely appletalk or that windows samba protocol that tells the name and finds the pc
[14:28] <Dweezahr> or you're in the wrong homegroup
[14:28] <fidel> roasted: in case dig resolves the name on both boxes it is indeed strange
[14:28] <roasted> Dweezahr: hm, it COULD be possible, but I doubt it. I don't think I ever changed the workgroups.
[14:29] <Dweezahr> and it used to work then?
[14:29] <Dweezahr> if not, changes make no difference here
[14:29] <roasted> Dweezahr: I'm having a hard time remembering... the laptops are mine, and the desktop is a HTPC I set up for my gf. Since then, we both moved in together, so now my laptops and HTPC are now in the same household.
[14:30] <roasted> Dweezahr: I think I specifically set up workgroups on my file server, but that's not in this equation. HTPC and file server are separate beasts
[14:30] <Dweezahr> roasted, I always use ip address, and use 4 different operating systems
[14:30] <styelz> maybe need roasted did you enable wins on samba
[14:30] <roasted> Dweezahr: well I like using the IP as well, but I used host name not realizing what I was doing and I saw it failed. On a hunch my mac was here so I tried it.
[14:30] <roasted> styelz: how does one do that?
[14:30] <styelz> name resolution
[14:30] <Dweezahr> But I have a dns server on my gateway and it should resolve
[14:30] <Dweezahr> you have a dns server in that router?
[14:30] <Dweezahr> else dd-wrt it
[14:31] <roasted> Dweezahr: are you suggesting that, typically, if the systems are in the same workgroup within the same LAN it should work fine?
[14:31] <Dweezahr> roasted, all running windows, yes
[14:31] <Dweezahr> running windows to osx, probably
[14:31] <Dweezahr> linux to windows, no
[14:31] <roasted> Dweezahr: I'm not sure. It's a motorola oruter that's about to get thrown out anyway and upgraded. But network manager DOES populate my DNS server as 192.168.10.1, which is the motorola.
[14:31] <roasted> Dweezahr: what about linux to linux?
[14:31] <roasted> all I use is linux. the mac is only here because it's a work system.
[14:31] <Dweezahr> Then you have all configuration options for yourself
[14:31] <azmodeus> hi...
[14:32] <Dweezahr> the samba configuration then needs to be altered
[14:32] <roasted> Dweezahr: but what is the default behavior? Same workgroup across all linux machines on LAN = smb://HTPC should work?
[14:32] <azmodeus> does anybody knows how can I install and change languages on the kubuntu-desktop installed on a xubuntu sys??? =)
[14:32] <Dweezahr> roasted, unequal workgroups can cause problems, but avoiding it does not guarantee a proper output
[14:33] <Dweezahr> I think there is a resolve problem
[14:33] <Dweezahr> And normally names are given by a dns server to be resolved to ip addresses
[14:33] <roasted> Dweezahr: what dns servers should be in resolv.conf? My router?
[14:33] <sven__> Somebody with an SSD here who can help me out (its running, some special questions)
[14:33] <styelz> roasted edit /etc/samba/smb.conf and add wins support = yes   .. i tihnk, maybe do a googe
[14:33] <Dweezahr> windows has crafted some stuff to make it possible for ordinary users to not need a dns server, but dns server is way to go here
[14:33] <styelz> damn this eeepc keyboard
[14:33] <Dweezahr> windns can be yes
[14:33] <bazhang> sven__, what does this have to do with ubuntu
[14:34] <roasted> Dweezahr: I'm just having a ahrd time understanding that if network manager is specifically picking up my router as the dns server, as to why resolv.conf needs to be touched
[14:34] <cypher-neo> Hi. I'm looking for a PPA that has libglib 2.31.2. I found the source, but I can't get it to compile, so I was wondering if it's available somewhere in a PPA.
[14:34] <Dweezahr> sven__ as long as you run ubuntu, right place
[14:34] <bazhang> cypher-neo, launchpad has a PPA search page
[14:34] <Dweezahr> resolv.conf is the local file that is checked before the dns server
[14:35] <Dweezahr> so type the name of the computer in it, and the ip address and then the machine itself will translate the name to the ip
[14:35] <roasted> Dweezahr: I understand that. But why does resolv.conf need to be touched if network manager is already picking up my DNS server.
[14:35] <Dweezahr> well, dns is not working
[14:35] <Dweezahr> can you configure it on your router?
[14:35] <Dweezahr> if not, then that is not enough
[14:35] <roasted> Dweezahr: I'm not sure. It's an older router that I'm replacing regardless.
[14:36] <roasted> Dweezahr: I wonder if the workgroup thing is burning me....
[14:36] <Dweezahr> you need an entry in your dns server, the router, to say that the name goes to the ip address of the htpc com?puter
[14:36] <styelz> roasted: http://oreilly.com/openbook/samba/book/ch07_03.html
[14:36] <kapz> Hi! OS: ubuntu 11.10, Scanner is USB Canon LiDE 110 flatbed, simplescan/xscanimage detects the scanner but when a document is scanned there is nothing but a white image..help!
[14:36] <roasted> Dweezahr: do newer routers typically handle this? like Linksys E2000s etc?
[14:36] <Dweezahr> roasted, it is the operating system on the router that determines this
[14:37] <roasted> Dweezahr: so it needs to be flashed? Stock firmware wouldn't do it?
[14:37] <Dweezahr> but also an old router like mine can run dd-wrt a custom rom, and then you have the world of conifguration possibilities
[14:37] <Dweezahr> usually, then you use a gateway with a dns
[14:37] <Dweezahr> like here, that is just a normal pc with multiple network interface cards
[14:37] <cypher-neo> bazhang, Oh... :( I found it. It's under Precise development.
[14:37] <cypher-neo> bazhang, No package available yet... which means that gimp-svn is broken until April, probably.
[14:38] <roasted> Dweezahr: I'm just trying to think what the simplest path is for me to get this working... if I'm upgrading routers anyway and I can get one to handle dns stuff, that would work.
[14:38] <roasted> Dweezahr: thereagain I wonder if proper workgroups would be enough.
[14:38] <propokr> Good Morning
[14:38] <kapz> ALright! I need to upgrade the version of SANE-Genesys for my scanner to work...can someone help me? Thanks
[14:39] <Dweezahr> roasted, you can try, but as long as you earn your money faster with working, then I would say just buy a new router instead of 30 hours of programming and searching
[14:39] <Ashii_> someone know why fonts act this way? http://ompldr.org/vY3Ftdw
[14:40] <Dweezahr> not fonts, Ashii_, just spaces everywhere
[14:40] <Ashii_> Dweezahr: but how do you shrink the spaces?
[14:40] <jatt> !dpi
[14:40] <cypher-neo> Ashii_, Depending on what font you are using, it could be the design of the font itself.
[14:41] <Ashii_> cypher-neo: it looks fine in conky, but looks horrid in term
[14:41] <azmodeus> mmm, no answers... :( sob... I cant install other languages....
[14:41] <webbeast> hello, I am new to ubuntu as well as to conky, I dont know I modified the following script properly, need assistance http://pastebin.com/m1JLajfg
[14:41] <cypher-neo> Ashii_, What font is it?
[14:42] <webbeast> is the entire script wrong? I downloaded it from conky website.
[14:42] <webbeast> and made some modifications.........
[14:43] <Dweezahr> webbeast, you are compiling the source code I assume?
[14:44] <jatt> no conky is configurable
[14:44] <webbeast> I am loading the conky script Dweezahr
[14:44] <roasted> appreciate it Dweezahr !
[14:44] <auronandace> webbeast: is that the whole conky.conf file?
[14:44] <styelz> hehe
[14:45] <cypher-neo> webbeast, From the pastebin you sent, it looks like every line in the script is hashbang'ed
[14:45] <Dweezahr> roasted, okay, it is fun, but If you want to talk seriously about technical things in your network, give #networking a visit, there you see some complex things
[14:45] <webbeast> no, its the .conkyrc file Dweezahr
[14:45] <cypher-neo> webbeast, If a line begins with a #, it won't be used when Conky loads that script.
[14:45] <peter-adfadfaj> Is there a bass & treble setting for sound in Ubuntu?
[14:45] <webbeast> no, its the .conkyrc fike auronandace
[14:45] <peter-adfadfaj> I hear no base.
[14:45] <peter-adfadfaj> BASS!
[14:46] <XATRIX> hi guys, how can i get rid of UTC ?
[14:46] <XATRIX> i'd like to use localtime
[14:46] <jatt> here is CET per default
[14:46] <webbeast> ohh I see cypher-neo
[14:46] <webbeast> do you have some simple conky script that I can try?
[14:46] <Dweezahr> XATRIX, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuTime
[14:46] <webbeast> and can you tell what is conky.conf file? I dont have it!
[14:47] <hypnocat> does anyone know how i can find out the URL for the source tar archive that a given package was built from?
[14:47] <ActionParsnip> webbeast: should be ~/.conkyrc
[14:47] <cypher-neo> webbeast, Simple? I do know a simple script. Let me find it.
[14:47] <cypher-neo> webbeast, It might take me a few minutes. Stay here in chat. :)
[14:47] <ActionParsnip> webbeast: there are samples online
[14:48] <webbeast> I am trying that and am getting errors ActionParsnip
[14:48] <webbeast> cypher-neo, take your time, I am right here
[14:48] <auronandace> webbeast: trying what exactly?
[14:48] <styelz> XATRIX: you can copy one of the fies from /usr/share/zoneinfo/... to /etc/zoneinfo
[14:49] <Dweezahr> no, he is still reading my page, it takes a while, and a gui is more useful
[14:49] <styelz> ok
[14:49] <cypher-neo> webbeast, Conky Wizard is about as simple as you can get! http://code.google.com/p/conkywizard/downloads/list
[14:49] <ActionParsnip> webbeast: find a sample config online and copy it in the ~/.conkyrc file  it will be read and used
[14:49] <XATRIX> styelz: i did it allready :)
[14:50] <XATRIX> the problem is my system still using UTC
[14:50] <cypher-neo> webbeast, It's also a great way to learn Conky, but making the Wizard do weird things and see how it affects the script.
[14:50] <ActionParsnip> webbeast: what's good about conky is the file is read in line, so changes apply without restarting the app
[14:50] <XATRIX> 10 17:50:07 MSK 2012
[14:50] <XATRIX> it should be 18:50:07 ...
[14:50] <webbeast> Tucos I tried this script http://pastebin.com/RUduYKXm and get this error http://pastebin.com/a5wbc5sB
[14:51] <XATRIX> i should edit /etc/default/rcS  for UTC=no
[14:51] <XATRIX> but it's not gonna be changed :(
[14:51] <webbeast> ActionParsnip cypher-neo I tried this script http://pastebin.com/RUduYKXm and get this error http://pastebin.com/a5wbc5sB
[14:51] <XATRIX> i did it, and still 17:XX instead of 18:XX
[14:51] <jatt> reboot
[14:52] <XATRIX> copy
[14:52] <XATRIX> is it possbile to make it without reboot ?
[14:52] <XATRIX> it's a server machine :)
[14:52] <styelz> date ...
[14:52] <XATRIX> i did init.d/rcS restart
[14:52] <XATRIX> but it has no effect
[14:53] <ActionParsnip> webbeast: run:  sudo find /proc | grep -i bat
[14:53] <XATRIX> Fri Feb 10 17:53:07 MSK 2012
[14:53] <jatt> relogin
[14:53] <ActionParsnip> webbeast: not all batery states and such are in the same place, so you need to tweak yours to fit your hardware
[14:53] <jwmto> hello,  I'm running ubuntu 11.10 on an IMac and I think I need to update my video drivers to use Gnome 3.  Can anyone help or advise?  (or even suggest a different channel if this is not optimal?)
[14:53] <Chel> why my ubuntu don't save a desctop settings ?
[14:53] <Chel> panel settings
[14:53] <ActionParsnip> jwmto: what video chip are you using?
[14:54] <XATRIX> styelz: any incoming ideas ?
[14:54] <webbeast> ;'
[14:54] <styelz> XATRIX: you can you date to set the time, is MSK you timezone ?
[14:54] <jatt> you did dpkg-reconfigure tzdata no?
[14:54] <styelz> s/you/use
[14:54] <webbeast> "/proc/acpi/battery"
[14:55] <ActionParsnip> webbeast: you also need the cpuspeed script the user has.
[14:55] <jwmto> Action is an ATI Radeon HD 2600 PRO graphics processor with256 mb  of GDDR3 memory
[14:55] <Darxus> It seems like there have been a lot of security upgrades for lucid lately, why is that?
[14:55] <ActionParsnip> !ati | jwmto
[14:56] <cypher-neo> webbeast, Let me point you to the Conky configuration page. There are numerous CPU commands that can be used on Conky that don't require external scripts.
[14:56] <cypher-neo> webbeast, Perhaps using a default command will work for you.
[14:56] <webbeast> but there was only the conkyrc file on that website http://conky.sourceforge.net ActionParship
[14:56] <webbeast> hmm
[14:57] <ActionParsnip> webbeast: there are sample files all over dude
[14:57] <cypher-neo> webbeast, http://conky.sourceforge.net/documentation.html
[14:57] <ActionParsnip> webbeast: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=281865
[14:59] <styelz> hai :)
[14:59] <SenorWombat> webbeast: earlier version of my single bar at the top: http://ideatrash.net/2011/10/informative-unobtrusive-minimalistic.html
[15:01] <cypher-neo> webbeast, Let me show you my Conky script that I wrote last year. For the most part it uses internal Conky commands to run, which make it faster and more stable. http://fav.me/d3exs2q
[15:01] <jacer> Does anyone do any gaming on a Windows guest with VM Workstation?
[15:02] <SenorWombat> Agreed - and lowers CPU usage as well.
[15:02] <Jeiha> hey. I installed WoW with Wine. I fully updated it, but I can't make it run. If I open it with the wow.exe is lags way too much and I can't do anything. what to do
[15:02] <SenorWombat> jacer - I've run warcraft 3 and diablo 1 & 2
[15:02] <SenorWombat> jacer - how much RAM are you giving the VM?  That's prolly your biggest thing.
[15:02] <cypher-neo> SenorWombat, That is a sweet looking bar!
[15:02] <webbeast> cypher-neo, I copied the script of spano from the link you gave me and it worked TY
[15:03] <jacer> 12 gigs =D
[15:03] <webbeast> SenorWombat, I liked urs too thanks
[15:03] <SenorWombat> Thanks, cypher-neo!  I'm pasting an updated one right now, I incorporated iowait and optimized it a bit.
[15:03] <ActionParsnip> jacer: it will perform badly
[15:04] <cypher-neo> SenorWombat, Conky bars were something I never designed. I did full desktop-CPU-draining designs, but I had trouble keeping my designs simple.
[15:04] <jacer> I just wanted some anecdotal feedback.  The general hold up is video performance, but workstation 8 is supposed to be much closer to the hardware level.
[15:04] <ActionParsnip> jacer: if you want to game, I suggest you dual boot
[15:04] <cypher-neo> SenorWombat, As you could probably see from my link above. lol
[15:04] <auronandace> Jeiha: perhaps #winehq would be better able to help
[15:04] <Jeiha> auronandance: I tried but there's no response, it's like the winehq is dead
[15:05] <YellowAfterlife> hello
[15:05] <Chel> why my ubuntu don't save a desktop settings ?
[15:05] <cypher-neo> Chel, Which settings are wrong?
[15:06] <ActionParsnip> Chel: are you the owner of all of your $HOME
[15:06] <SenorWombat> cyper-neo I *like* the big designs, but I just freak out when my resting load/cpu is above a low idle.
[15:06] <SenorWombat> Actually, anyone got an idea on how to optimize this little bugger:  iostat -c -k -z | tail -2 | head -1 | awk '{print $4}'
[15:06] <ActionParsnip> Chel: if you have /home on a separate partition is it mounted read/write?
[15:07] <SenorWombat> I'm trying to extract the iowait value as simply as possible - but doing it as one awk script seems... well, awful.
[15:07] <cypher-neo> SenorWombat, lol! The computer I made that screenshot on was running on a laptop with 1Gb of RAM.
[15:07] <Bsims> have the troubles with Sandy Bridge graphics been sorted out yet?
[15:07] <cypher-neo> SenorWombat, It tended to idle high, but on my desktop with 6Gb of RAM it was fine.
[15:07] <ActionParsnip> Bsims: Maybe in Precise. Try a liveCD
[15:07] <Chel> ActionParsnip: yes write permissions is good and im an owner
[15:08] <Bsims> ActionParsnip: Ah screw it I may just save 50 bucks and get the non sandy bridge version lol
[15:08] <ActionParsnip> Chel: you can check with:  sudo chown -R $USER:$USER $HOME
[15:08] <ActionParsnip> Bsims: thats one way, then buy an nvidia video card :)
[15:10] <Jeiha> why I can't use wget commands?
[15:10] <styelz> sudo apt-get install wget
[15:11] <szal> Jeiha: you tell us..  in terms of error message(s)
[15:11] <Bsims> ActionParsnip: lol the intergrated video is faster than my existing video card
[15:11] <styelz> should be there though
[15:11] <Jeiha> chmod 700 /usr/bin/wget
[15:11] <styelz> heh
[15:11] <Jeiha> when I am trying to use a wget command I get:  wget: command not found...
[15:11] <styelz> sudo wget
[15:12] <YelowAfterlife_> question: is it possible\safe to install a new ubuntu11 over a existing, non-functional installation?
[15:12] <szal> shouldn't need privileges
[15:12] <ActionParsnip> Bsims: depends what you got
[15:12] <styelz> hehe
[15:12] <whoever_> can sonmeone assisit with bind when i tail syslov .arpa fails with not at top of zone
[15:12] <Bsims> ActionParsnip: it runs on coal
[15:12] <cabrera> hola
[15:12] <ActionParsnip> Jeiha: sudo apt-get install wget
[15:13] <cabrera> estoy probando por primera
[15:13] <cabrera> vez ubuntu
[15:13] <szal> !es | cabrera
[15:13] <styelz> thats what he said
[15:13] <cabrera> esta genial
[15:13] <SenorWombat> cypher-neo webbeast - updated conkyrc here:  http://pastebin.com/h6Sm3ABc
[15:13] <auronandace> YelowAfterlife_: if the partition is getting formatted then it's just like a fresh install
[15:13] <ActionParsnip> Bsims: can't be older than most of my stuff :)
[15:13] <Jeiha> ActionParsnip: I get sudo: apt-get: command not found
[15:13] <cabrera> ok
[15:14] <ActionParsnip> Jeiha: what is the out of:  lsb_release -sc
[15:14] <styelz> Jeiha: wheris whet
[15:14] <styelz> ergh
[15:14] <styelz> Jeiha: whereis wget
[15:14] <Jeiha> ActionParsnip: I get lsb_release -sc
[15:15] <styelz> this is dumb
[15:15] <Jeiha> ActionParsnip: I get lsb_release: command not found...*
[15:15] <ActionParsnip> Jeiha: its part of the default OS, so you most likely aren't running Ubuntu
[15:15] <Bsims> ActionParsnip: GeForce 6600 GT
[15:15] <szal> sounds like someone killed their environment variables
[15:15] <styelz> sounds like no path
[15:15] <ActionParsnip> Bsims: better than my onboard6150LE
[15:15] <styelz> have you su , to anther use
[15:15] <ActionParsnip> styelz: ahhh
[15:16] <szal> !enter | styelz
[15:16] <ActionParsnip> Jeiha: what is the output of;   echo $PATH
[15:16] <styelz> sorry, bad habbit..msn and all
[15:16] <ActionParsnip> Its fedora
[15:16] <ActionParsnip> just told me in PM
[15:17] <compdoc> fedora?! someone get a rope
[15:17]  * styelz slaps ubottu with a large trout
[15:17] <koskoz> hi, how to know which graphical driver I'm running?
[15:18] <ActionParsnip> koskoz: sudo lshw -C display | grep -i driver
[15:18] <koskoz> ActionParsnip, PCI (sysfs)
[15:18] <jatt> does't work
[15:18] <szal> jatt: who or what?
[15:19] <Oer> koskoz, just wait 10 sec
[15:19] <YellowAfterlife> auronandace: is it possible to 'overwrite' installation without formatting everything in partition though? For reference, currently ubuntu starts up until this point for me and lags out on that - http://i.solidfiles.net/ca659f82a0.jpg
[15:19] <koskoz> configuration: driver=fglrx_pci latency=0
[15:19] <koskoz> so I guess I'm running the free driver
[15:19] <styelz> hi szal
[15:20] <jatt> lsmod | grep fglrx
[15:20] <CaptainKnots> fglrx != free driver
[15:20] <auronandace> YellowAfterlife: possible yes, safe no, it will break badly
[15:20] <koskoz> CaptainKnots: oh, how do I remove them then? I think it's the catalysts one
[15:20] <ActionParsnip> koskoz: give it time, your PCI bus is slow
[15:21] <bricinio> sera
[15:21] <ActionParsnip> koskoz: thats the proprietary driver
[15:21] <CaptainKnots> koskoz: locate fglrx
[15:21] <CaptainKnots> there's an uninstall script somewhere
[15:22] <styelz> locate will only work best if you runsydi updatedb first. anything new since the last update will be foundthen
[15:22] <CaptainKnots> ^
[15:22] <CaptainKnots> forgot about that
[15:23] <craigbass1976> I'm trying to boot a box and getting the initramfs prompt.  When I mount -t ext3 /dev/sda1 /root though, I get an Invalid argument error.  Meh?  I had thrown an XP drive into it this morning to copy some stuff off (prior to a wipe) but when I rebooted after copying a bunch of files, I get this error.
[15:24] <Awsoonn> hi all, A new problem just poked its head out on me today. When I start to watch a youtube video everything if great, but if I change volume, the sound stops. If I close my laptop lid and open it back up sound comes back. Any ideas?
[15:24] <dlentz> YellowAfterlife, that's the point X server should start, check /var/logXorg.0.log
[15:24] <dlentz> */var/log/Xorg.0.log
[15:25] <gdane1> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X-GXO_urMow
[15:25] <gdane1> nomnomnom
[15:25] <szal> !ot | gdane1
[15:26] <whoever_> craigbass1976: try creating a directory and mounting using sudo
[15:26] <gdane1> i know, but i think this video will be interest for some pplk
[15:26] <gdane1> ppl
[15:26] <damo22> i am trying to set a new password, i changed ro quiet splash to rw init=/bin/sh but it says Begin: running/scripts/init-botton Done. and no root shell
[15:27] <szal> gdane1: doesn't matter; if it's not support-related, it doesn't belong here
[15:27] <auronandace> gdane1: no, this is a support channel, that vid won't help anyone
[15:27] <damo22> how do i root this mofo?
[15:27] <gdane1> btw can u advise me something about working with .deb
[15:27] <ikonia> damo22: you tone down the language
[15:28] <dlentz> gdane1, for future ref, you might want to try giving the topic ('nom' isn't helpful)
[15:28] <ikonia> damo22: that would be your first port of call
[15:28] <YellowAfterlife> dlentz: I barely can 'get into ubuntu', probably only in 'console' mode. This happened after updating from 9.* version to 11 and installing gnome3 instead of unity.
[15:28] <ikonia> damo22: second you boot into recovery mode from grub
[15:28] <damo22> recovery mode??
[15:29] <auronandace> YellowAfterlife: how did you update?
[15:29] <damo22> ikonia: you mean failsafe?
[15:29] <cypher-neo> SenorWombat, The Conky looks nice!
[15:29] <ikonia> damo22: no, I mean recovery mode
[15:29] <damo22> ikonia: how ?
[15:30] <ikonia> damo22: for someone who is bragging how much they love hacking linux devices, you're struggling with some pretty basic stuff here
[15:30] <bahuy> hello
[15:30] <ikonia> damo22: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecoveryMode
[15:30] <damo22> ikonia: im walking someone else through it i cant see the screen
[15:31] <CaptainKnots> damo22: doesn't change the fact that it's a basic operation
[15:31] <ikonia> damo22: again, for someone who is bragging about "hacking linux devices" - this should be easy to walk someone through
[15:31] <ikonia> damo22: I can't see the screen yet I'm aware enough to walk you through
[15:31] <cypher-neo> YellowAfterlife, Which PPA did you install GNOME3 from. There shouldn't an issue like that caused by GNOME3.
[15:31] <ikonia> damo22: and based on your discussion in ##linux - it's your machine and you're typing, best not to try to blag in here
[15:31] <szal> damo22: if it doesn't have Recovery, but has Failsafe, it's either old enough to not be supported any more or not *buntu
[15:31] <danfrincu> according to https://support.mozillamessaging.com/en-US/kb/thunderbird-31-end-life-faq Thunderbird 3.1 will be EOL, last day 24.04.2012, question is, how does ubuntu handle the upgrades to more recent releases, will the newer versions be backported or do additional repositories need to be configured?
[15:32] <ActionParsnip> cypher-neo: there is one, it breaks a LOT of stuff
[15:32] <ActionParsnip> !gnome3
[15:32] <damo22> ikonia: errr no
[15:32] <kapz> Hi all! I have a 64-bit machine with 8GiB RAM, all was fine but today bios told me that ram is reduced so  reseat the RAM modules and now bios shows 8 GiB, however after booting in ubuntu it still shows 4 GiB!!!
[15:33] <ActionParsnip> kapz: you installed the 32bit OS
[15:33] <uictamale> does anyone here know if the global app menu is here to stay?  I really think it makes using ubuntu a horrible experience, and using the 'hacks' to disable it all leave much to be desired.
[15:33] <damo22> ikonia: it should just work if he appends init=/bin/sh to the kernel command line
[15:33] <szal> kapz: lsb_release -a
[15:33] <kapz> ActionParsnip: No 64 bit, and it was showing * gb earlier...
[15:33] <ikonia> damo22: use single user mode
[15:33] <kapz> *8 Gib earlier
[15:33] <auronandace> !dash | damo22
[15:33] <yas_> hi i have install xorg intel video software so in normal boot display is not comming safe mode is working how to remove xorg intel software and work as like previous in normal mode
[15:34] <ActionParsnip> kapz: can you give the output of:  uname -a
[15:34] <SenorWombat> Thanks, cypher-neo!
[15:34] <ikonia> damo22: all basic stuff for an experienced linux hacker like yourself
[15:34] <kapz> ActionParsnip: Linux i7-Metal 3.0.0-15-generic #26-Ubuntu SMP Fri Jan 20 17:23:00 UTC 2012 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux
[15:34] <uictamale> for that matter, does anyone know if ALL of the 'OSX-esque' directions of ubuntu's design are here to stay, or are they a termporary thing?  Where can I voice my opinion in a constructive manner on the topic?
[15:34] <ActionParsnip> kapz: and the output of:  lsb_release -sc
[15:34] <ActionParsnip> uictamale: my desktop looks nothing like OSX
[15:35] <ikonia> uictamale: with all the respect possible, canonical does not care about "your" view
[15:35] <spacebug-> uictamale: it's here to stay but you can disable it. http://www.webupd8.org/2011/03/disable-appmenu-global-menu-in-ubuntu.html  just remove a few packaged and logout and login again
[15:35] <ikonia> uictamale: it's going the way it feels the desktop is needing to go
[15:35] <uictamale> ikonia: whose view do they care about?
[15:35] <ikonia> uictamale: their own, they are a business creating their vision of Linux
[15:35] <kapz> ActionParsnip: oneiric
[15:35] <ActionParsnip> uictamale: http://dl.dropbox.com/u/8850924/Desktop.png
[15:35] <ActionParsnip> uictamale: looks like OSX?
[15:35] <uictamale> Yes, very much so
[15:36] <ActionParsnip> uictamale: looks more like Win7 if you ask me
[15:36] <uictamale> purple icons, menu items on the top left corners, fat fonts
[15:36] <uictamale> At least your app menus are back
[15:36] <ActionParsnip> uictamale: it's LXDE...
[15:36] <uictamale> gotcha, does that support ccsm ?
[15:36] <yas> how to remove newly install xorg intel software from our linux display is not working using this software.
[15:36] <ikonia> yas: how did you install it ?
[15:36] <ActionParsnip> uictamale: you are talking about Unity, which is one part of the whole OS, you could use KDE and get a similar desktop to mine too
[15:37] <CaptainKnots> uictamale: or use xfce
[15:37] <kapz> ActionParsnip: The output shows: oneiric
[15:37] <ActionParsnip> uictamale: it can and you would replace openbox with compiz. You can replace any WM with compiz
[15:37] <uictamale> ActionParsnip: understood, but as far as I've been able to figure out, only unity keeps the compiz settings I've grown dependent on
[15:37] <ActionParsnip> kapz: I saw
[15:37] <damo22> ikonia: i only know the important stuff, not intricate details of stupid distros that use symlinks on basic core utils
[15:37] <ikonia> damo22: it's nothing to do with that
[15:37] <ActionParsnip> uictamale: in brief, your view of the whole OS is based on one vERY CHANGABLE factor of it
[15:37] <ikonia> damo22: basic booting the kernel
[15:38] <ikonia> damo22: nothing distro specific about this, its the same in ALL distros
[15:38] <uictamale> WIth all due respect, I think if voiced properly and persistently, users like us can help shape canonical's vision - if this isn'e the case, what's the point in contributing at all?
[15:38] <ActionParsnip> uictamale: the whole 'i hate unity' thing has been goingon for months now, haven't you see the web pages on it. Its boring now
[15:38] <ikonia> uictamale: you are incorrect
[15:38] <ActionParsnip> uictamale: it can be changed, its very simple
[15:39] <ikonia> uictamale: please contact canonical if you wish to complain
[15:39] <uictamale> this is the IRC channel canonical points to
[15:39] <ikonia> uictamale: no it's not
[15:39] <ikonia> uictamale: this is an ubuntu support channel
[15:39] <ikonia> uictamale: canonical can be contacted on canonical.com
[15:39] <ActionParsnip> uictamale: I suggest you install xfce4 and use that, it feels and runs like Gnome2 and you can run youor gnome apps there with no issue
[15:39] <CaptainKnots> uictamale: #ubuntu-devel
[15:39] <ikonia> CaptainKnots: no
[15:39] <ikonia> CaptainKnots: that is not a complaining channel
[15:39] <Klevis> how to bind a domain with nameserver on my ubuntu server ??
[15:39] <CaptainKnots> ikonia: I never said it was
[15:39] <ActionParsnip> uictamale: you don't HAVE to use Unity
[15:40] <xukun> hi everybody . After installing ubuntu 11.10 on my dell laptop there is no grub line to boot to windows 7.
[15:40] <uictamale> ActionParsnip: You're beating a dead horse - I know I don't have to use unity - I want to help shape unity's direction.
[15:40] <CaptainKnots> uictamale: if you want to change something, then do it yourself
[15:40] <theadmin> uictamale: #ubuntu-devel and canonical.com, still nothing to do with this channel
[15:40] <uictamale> well, ubuntu's direction
[15:40] <ActionParsnip> uictamale: then report bugs and suggest features...
[15:40] <uictamale> theadmin: Ok, thank you.
[15:40] <arand> xukun: Make sure you have os-prober instaled and re-run update.grub
[15:40] <ikonia> uictamale: http://www.canonical.com/about-canonical/contact
[15:41] <ikonia> uictamale: best of luck
[15:41] <Klevis> how to bind a domain with nameserver on my ubuntu server ??
[15:41] <theadmin> uictamale: Also, http://launchpad.net/ubuntu
[15:41] <ikonia> Klevis: you register the domain
[15:41] <arand> xukun: * update-grub
[15:41] <ikonia> Klevis: register the domain server with the domain authority
[15:41] <ikonia> Klevis: point the domain at TWO domain servers
[15:41] <ikonia> Klevis: setup a zone file for that domain
[15:41] <xukun> arand, thanks for your replay but I have done that but no luck so far
[15:42] <Alrik> I've having problems with that too
[15:42] <ikonia> Klevis: then tell the clients to query that domain server either authoritive or non-authoritvly
[15:42] <Klevis> ikonia: i have already set up a zone for the domain
[15:42] <arand> xukun: if you run "sudo os-prober" does it find the windows loader?
[15:42] <ikonia> Klevis: have you registerd the domainname servers with the domainname authority /
[15:42] <Klevis> i have set it dns ip on nameserver on domain
[15:42] <ikonia> Klevis: both of the name server
[15:42] <ikonia> Klevis: have you registered two name servers with the domain name authority ?
[15:42] <Klevis> no
[15:42] <ikonia> Klevis: that is your next step
[15:42] <Klevis> what is domain name authority ?
[15:43] <uictamale> ActionParsnip: Is installing LXDE as easy as installing a few packages?  Will is potentially harm any other packages?
[15:43] <ikonia> Klevis: the people who issue domains for that domain level
[15:44] <kapz> Hi all! I have a 64-bit machine with 8GiB RAM, all was fine but today bios told me that ram is reduced so  reseat the RAM modules and now bios shows 8 GiB, however after booting in ubuntu it still shows 4 GiB!!!
[15:44] <Klevis> ikonia can i write you on pm ?
[15:44] <ikonia> Klevis: no thanks,
[15:44] <ikonia> Klevis: please show me the output of "uname -a"
[15:44] <ikonia> Klevis: sorry, not you
[15:44] <ikonia> kapz: please show me the output of uname -a
[15:45] <kapz> ikonia: uname -a >> Linux i7-Metal 3.0.0-15-generic #26-Ubuntu SMP Fri Jan 20 17:23:00 UTC 2012 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux
[15:45] <katnegermis> Hi there :) Do you guys know the unity command, equal to gnome-open?
[15:45] <ikonia> kapz: please show me the output of the command "free"
[15:45] <theadmin> katnegermis: xdg-open # Universal, works in any desktop environment
[15:45] <katnegermis> theadmin: thanks!
[15:46] <ActionParsnip> uictamale: sudo apt-get install lxde
[15:46] <theadmin> katnegermis: Also methinks gnome-open works in Unity, but there's no real reason to use that
[15:46] <kapz> ikonia: http://pastebin.com/LzAbmdtk
[15:46] <ActionParsnip> uictamale: it won't harm any other packages at all...
[15:47] <CaptainKnots> ActionParsnip: can't you also do 'sudo apt-get install lubuntu-desktop'? just curious
[15:47] <theadmin> kapz: Well this shows you have 4G
[15:47] <ikonia> kapz: that looks like a memroy fault
[15:47] <katnegermis> theadmin: I think I'd have to install gnome-libs in order to do that.. I just didn't see the meaning in doing so :) xdg-open works flawlessly, though!
[15:47] <ikonia> kapz: try booting the memtest option and see what it sees
[15:47] <ActionParsnip> uictamale: if you want the look mine has, install lubuntu-desktop instead   and you will get a different default theme than normal, the lubuntu one, which is what I have
[15:47] <kapz> ikonia: But Bios shows 8 GB
[15:47] <theadmin> katnegermis: Unity is based on Gnome libs, you already have them :P
[15:47] <ActionParsnip> CaptainKnots: that will install some themes as well as leafpad and other lightweight apps
[15:48] <ActionParsnip> CaptainKnots: if ONLY the desktop is desired then lxde is fine
[15:48] <Lint> what is WIMAX Mobile Broadband?
[15:48] <ikonia> kapz: check with memtest
[15:48] <ikonia> kapz: bios showing 8GB means it just sees the dimms, doesn't mean they are working
[15:48] <ikonia> Lint: nothing to do with ubuntu,
[15:48] <kapz> ikonia: Thanks, will do the memtest :)
[15:48] <kapz> brb
[15:48] <ActionParsnip> Lint: the web will tell you, or ask in ##hardware
[15:49] <CaptainKnots> heh memtest isn't a 'brb' kind of test
[15:49] <Lint> it is, because it has it on my machine without my permission
[15:49] <ikonia> Lint: nothing to do with ubuntu
[15:49] <xukun> arand, wait a sec
[15:50] <Klevis> ikonia: what do u mean with :have you registered two name servers:? i have already set it 2 nameserver on my domain
[15:50] <c31r2g> hi
[15:51] <ikonia> Klevis: the domain name servers need to be registered with the domain authorities
[15:51] <theadmin> Hm. Can anyone hint me in the right direction? LibreOffice on Ubuntu 11.10 wouldn't start recently, I have Java (OpenJDK) installed though. Running it in the terminal works, but launchers don't (neither custom nor default ones), launchers which run it in gnome-terminal (i.e. "gnome-terminal -e soffice") work... what on earth can this mean?
[15:51] <xukun> sudo os-prober does not find anything but If I run this script: http://bootinfoscript.sourceforge.net/ it finds windows loader
[15:51] <Klevis> ikonia and how can i do that ?
[15:51] <ikonia> Klevis: contact the people you registered the domain from
[15:51] <Klevis> ikonia ok thank you..
[15:52] <auronandace> theadmin: i thought libreoffice doesn't require java
[15:52] <theadmin> auronandace: Does for additional functionality (it also nags you with a TON of warnings when you start it without a Java binary, you have to click "OK" like 100500 times for it to work without a jre)
[15:52] <theadmin> auronandace: Could have changed, not sure
[15:53] <Lint> after update i have an icon of something looking like network manager. it shows I have no adapters or connections, but my network works
[15:53] <arand> xukun: Hmm, that's strange, I don't think I will be able to help, but if you post the bootinfo maybe someone here or in #grub, possibly, might be.
[15:53] <c31r2g> can anyone tell me how  to close a program from terminal
[15:54] <CJKay> Ctrl+C
[15:54] <rofringe> Hi,
[15:54] <rofringe> any Nvidia 8400 GS expert here ?
[15:54] <quiescens> theadmin: if it runs from a terminal but doesn't run from the launchers then could the launchers be running the wrong thing by any chance?
[15:54] <theadmin> c31r2g: pkill programname
[15:54] <dlentz> !ask | rofringe
[15:54] <VectorX> hi, does anyone have a good tute on installing and getting FreeNX to work on oneiric, i followed the instructions on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeNX but when i connect from windows with NX client i get this log and it disconnects http://pastebin.com/ZKcLWSn5 , this is with the settings set to gnome, but if i set it to terminal it connects fine ?
[15:54] <theadmin> quiescens: I run "soffice" in both cases and it runs in one case and doesn't in the other which is entirely weird.
[15:55] <theadmin> quiescens: Using the full path for the launcher doesn't fix it
[15:55] <dbolser> is calling someone a feckless pedant really a booting offence? It's not even off topic ;-)
[15:55] <xukun> arand,  and anybody how would like to help adding windows 7 line on my grub this is my bootinfo: http://paste.ubuntu.com/836695/ar
[15:56] <Lint> why my new network manager appears defunct and hiw to remove it from panel then?
[15:56] <c31r2g> tahnks theadmin
[15:56] <kapz> ikonia: how to get that memtest option during boot? I reboot and press esc key fo rthe grub menu to show up but it boots up instead...
[15:56] <theadmin> kapz: You want Left Shift, not Escape (they changed it since grub2)
[15:56] <ikonia> kapz: just run it from the livecd
[15:56] <ikonia> kapz: or follow theadmin
[15:56] <szal> kapz: don't press Esc, press Shift
[15:56] <kapz> thanks will do that...
[15:56] <kapz> brb
[15:57] <StephanSchmidt> hi
[15:58] <c31r2g> theadmin: in terminal pkill then what
[15:58] <c31r2g> i'm a newbie :)
[15:58] <theadmin> c31r2g: pkill programname (for example, "pkill firefox")
[15:58] <esd_> hi, is hud-cli released yet?
[15:59] <arand> xukun: The sector issue of sda1 might be causeing issues?
[15:59] <c31r2g> what about like someone said some pid thing
[15:59] <MonkeyDust> esd_  i think it's for 12.04
[15:59] <robkaq2> hello everybody!
[15:59] <VectorX> hi, does anyone have a good tute on installing and getting FreeNX to work on oneiric, i followed the instructions on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeNX but when i connect from windows with NX client i get this log and it disconnects http://pastebin.com/ZKcLWSn5 , this is with the settings set to gnome, but if i set it to terminal it connects fine ?
[15:59] <esd_> MonkeyDust: is it unity exclusive ?
[16:00] <xukun> arand, how can I fix that?
[16:00] <MonkeyDust> esd_  good question, lemme check
[16:00] <arand> xukun: I don't know I'm afraid.
[16:00] <robkaq2> where i have to copy a bash script, if i want to be able to run from any directory?
[16:01] <MonkeyDust> esd_  yes
[16:01] <esd_> MonkeyDust: that sucks
[16:01] <MonkeyDust> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Unity
[16:01] <xukun> arand, np thanks anyway
[16:01] <esd_> MonkeyDust: im on arch and do not intend to install a desktop anytime soon :D
[16:01] <oCean> robkaq2: do  echo $PATH, you see the various options, I'd say /usr/local/bin for example, or create ~/bin and add that to your PATH variable
[16:02] <MonkeyDust> esd_  geek :p
[16:02] <vandal-> how can i set key DEL on keypad to insert dot instead of comma ? i was diging in keyboard layouts is /usr/share/X11 but in those files KP_DL its just set to KP_Decimal
[16:03] <robkaq2> oCean: many thanks!
[16:03] <szal> vandal-: that is locale-dependent
[16:03] <Lint> why my new network manager appears defunct and hiw to remove it from panel then?
[16:03] <john_doe_jr> is there a way to get a previous version of Google Chrome or Chromium in Ubuntu
[16:03] <john_doe_jr> ?
[16:03] <vandal-> szal, any way to change it manually without changing whole keyboard layout?
[16:04] <vandal-> i am not afraid of modifying some system files
[16:04] <MonkeyDust> esd_  there's an experimental PPA, depending on how skilled you are, you may want to try it http://www.ubuntuvibes.com/2012/01/ubuntu-to-replace-application-menus.html
[16:04] <esd_> thanks MonkeyDust
[16:04] <rofringe> This (the PC I'm using right now..) is a Dell GX620 3GHz 4GB RAM Nvidia 8400 GS, with Ubuntu 11.10 on it. My problem is that YouTube HD 1080p videos are slow slow (the image freeze); I updated the Nvidia driver to 290.10 (using the manufacturer's   NVIDIA-Linux-x86-290.10.run file) but I see no difference. The very same PC in Win XP, YouTubes 1080p  perfect. Is it Linux slower than Wn XP ????
[16:06] <MonkeyDust> rofringe  i guess nvidia is not well supported on Linux (i have intel myself)
[16:06] <auronandace> rofringe: sound like either a difference in performance for either the nvidia driver or flash (i suspect flash)
[16:06] <esd_> nvidia > ati on linux tbh
[16:06] <esd_> even nouveau drivers for nvidia are working good
[16:07] <rofringe> the NVIDIA-Linux-x86-290.10.run   is the LAST one for that 8400 GS card ...
[16:08] <auronandace> rofringe: that doesn't mean the quality of the linux driver is equal to the windows one
[16:08] <jasonlfunk> I have some questions about udev. Is this a good room to ask in or is there a better one?
[16:10] <s0> ##windows
[16:10] <andrew_au> Hi, can anyone help out with setting up a CA and signing a cert with ssl?
[16:12] <Shiu> anyone know what to do if a pulseaudio profile is not showing up, despiten being in the extras-hdmi.conf file
[16:13] <_raven> hi
[16:13] <_raven> 11.10 with encrypted lvm - how to repair grub?
[16:13] <c31r2g> _raven r u from bsrf
[16:14] <_raven> ?
[16:14] <auronandace> !u | c31r2g
[16:15] <_raven> how to repair grub2 on an encrypted lvm system?
[16:15] <c31r2g> sorry
[16:15] <c31r2g> im new here
[16:15] <module000> _raven: the same way you would repair grub2 on a non-lvm system, since you can't install it to a LVM-presented volume
[16:16] <jaybutts> hello
[16:16] <_raven> module000, i do not understand exactly what is happening here but there seems to be a problem with dev mapper root but i did chroot already
[16:17] <module000> _raven: did you boot a live cd?  once you have, you need to mount /boot & mount-and-bind /dev, then chroot
[16:17] <_raven> module000, i did everything
[16:18] <jaybutts> Nagstamon is not visible when I launch it, tried the old trick of editing the config so its floating and not in statusbar but still don't see the monitor anywhere, I can hear it alerting and stuff but not finding it anywhere :(
[16:18] <module000> _raven: and when you grub-install /dev/foo, what erorr did you get?
[16:18] <_raven>   /usr/sbin/grub-probe: error: no such disk. Auto-detection of a filesystem of /dev/mapper/root failed.
[16:19] <module000> _raven: how did you mount your encrypted root?
[16:19] <Josssse> Hello boys and girls. I'm trying to install ubuntuone. After I apt-get the installer, I run it and when I click on the "I already have an account!" link it does nothing. I see no "connect to ubuntu" window. Any ideas?
[16:19] <donavan01> If I want to have a secure install of Ubuntu should I use WUBI or just install it direct and do a dual boot.... since its installed through windows is there any security issue
[16:20] <_raven> i mounted it visual via live-xubuntu desktop and it is in /media/######### now
[16:20] <auronandace> donavan01: install it directly
[16:20] <holstein> donavan01: performance issues..
[16:20] <module000> _raven: and did you bind /dev inside the root mountpoint at /media/####/dev ?
[16:20] <donavan01> I thought there might be some issues with that ... I put it on with wubi to make sure there werent any driver issues with my hardware before commiting to a full install
[16:20] <brathbun> is there a way to get rid of the system monitoring applet running in Pinguy OS?  my mother-in-law has it running on her computer and wants it off, i don't know how to turn it off,.
[16:21] <mcb_> donavan01: The major security issues is that is will still have Windows...... LOL. :)
[16:21] <_raven> module000, dev, sys and proc yes
[16:21] <theadmin> brathbun: We only support Ubuntu here, Pinguy OS is not a supported deriv.
[16:21] <donavan01> mcb_ cant say that didnt cross my mind
[16:21] <module000> _raven: don't bother sys and proc, you only need dev. so now when you `chroot /media/#####`, your /dev is populated, right?
[16:21] <brathbun> theadmin, it's not?  i thought that pinguy os was based on ubuntu.
[16:21] <mcb_> donavan01: LOL again
[16:21] <auronandace> !lol
[16:22] <epaphus> Hello. So I installed iostat to monitor the kB/sec written/read from my HD... upon doing tests i see that the info displayed does not change ... i tried this also on another OS same result.. anybody know what could be wrong with iostat? (stays at kB_read/s 8.42, and kB_wrtn/s 29.85) .
[16:22] <theadmin> brathbun: The only *officially* supported Ubuntu versions are: Ubuntu, Kubuntu, Xubuntu, Ubuntu Studio, Edubuntu
[16:22] <theadmin> brathbun: We don't support anything else
[16:22] <epaphus> (different OS, different machine)
[16:22] <scarleo> brathbun, just look for the process and kill it
[16:22] <auronandace> theadmin: don't forget lubuntu :)
[16:22] <rofringe> anyone with a nVidia 8400 GS here ?
[16:22] <theadmin> auronandace: Oh, pardon me, yeah I skipped over that one accidentally
[16:22] <brathbun> theadmin would you happen to know what irc channel i can join for pinguy os support?
[16:23] <theadmin> brathbun: No, sorry, search their site for that info, can't be too hard to find
[16:23] <mneptok> brathbun: i'm sure their website can tell you.
[16:23] <_raven> module000, with some dm-# and mapper yes
[16:23] <oCean> brathbun: there is #PinguyOS on this network, few active users though
[16:23] <brathbun> their website was down awhile ago.  had some server message saying that the site might be under maintenance.
[16:23] <rofringe> anyone here using an old nVidia (series 8...) card ?
[16:24] <module000> _raven: you shouldn't see any DM stuff inside your chroot. this might be easier if you boot rescue mode in a console
[16:24] <_raven> module000, could you guide me a bit? what to do now?
[16:25] <module000> _raven: what is the exact syntax of your grub-install command?
[16:25] <module000> _raven: reboot with a live CD and choose "rescue" from the boot list
[16:25] <_Marcus> I just downloaded a .deb package for Ubuntu, how do I install it?
[16:26] <MonkeyDust> _Marcus  use gdebi
[16:26] <tsimpson> brathbun: #pinguyos (apparently)
[16:26] <_raven> module000, oh i guess something... is it right to install grub to /dev/sda?
[16:26] <_Marcus> [11:26] -beep:#ubuntu- test
[16:26] <_Marcus> What was that?
[16:26] <AfterDeath> _Marcus: Someone being annoying
[16:26] <module000> _raven: yes, your last command should be `grub-install /dev/sda`
[16:26] <quiescens> epaphus: what are you actually trying to do?
[16:26] <LjL> _Marcus: someone sending a channel notice
[16:26] <_Marcus> Oh
[16:26] <mcb_> _Marcus: you can use dpkg -i <file>.deb
[16:27] <_raven> module000, yes i did....
[16:27] <_raven> module000, ok ill reboot
[16:27] <donavan01> does the new desktop manager work faster or slower than gnome?
[16:27] <holstein> _Marcus: refer to https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InstallingSoftware ... or just double click on it :)
[16:27] <quiescens> epaphus: i don't think iostat does what you think it does, or what you want it to do
[16:27] <_Marcus> holstein: I can't double click over command line though
[16:27] <_raven> module000, there is a unetbootin screen which provides no repair option
[16:28] <holstein> donavan01: you can check it out from a live CD... i find it similar, but maybe a little slower feeling
[16:28] <cjs226> running into an issue where omrelp doesn't send all logs to the remote server even though *.* is used.  for example, php errors aren't sent.  any ideas?
[16:28] <MeirD_> Hello
[16:28] <kindkid> I currently have a VM booting (from an iso) and loading up my root partition. I want to get rid of the need for the boot iso, so I can just have a single disk image that's bootable and includes the root partition. How should I tackle this?
[16:28] <module000> _raven: a generic ubuntu live cd should have 'rescue an existing system' as an option
[16:28] <holstein> MeirD_: cool... there are suggestions here and in that link about how to do that :)
[16:28] <rofringe> anyone here using an old nVidia (series 8...) card ?
[16:28] <_raven> module000, will take some time
[16:28] <holstein> _Marcus: ^
[16:28] <mcb_> donavan01: Are you talking about Unity. I did not like it and stayed with Gnome, but it is matter of taste. I cant about perfamce as i disliked it a lot... and used it for a very short time.
[16:28] <MonkeyDust> _Marcus  in the future, please inform us that you wish to work with the CLI
[16:28] <donavan01> holstein I was runnign it in WUBI but I wasnt sure if it was slower or not ... didnt have gnome to compare it too
[16:28] <MeirD_> Is there anyway I can use "ls -l" and print the file permission number (755) instead of "rwxr-xr-x" ?
[16:28] <_Marcus> MonkeyDust: Sorry
[16:29] <superdave321> MeirD_: Hello!!
[16:29] <_raven> what to do then? simply wizard for that special case?
[16:29] <mcb_> _Marcus: use dpkg -i <file_name>.deb
[16:29] <_Marcus> mcb_: Thanks, it worked
[16:29] <mcb_> _Marcus: But keep in mind that the dependancies are up to you!
[16:29] <epaphus> quiescens, hmm. then iam confused? can you please elaborate ? :)
[16:29] <donavan01> mcb_ yeah unity.... I was going to give it a shot and see how it worked and if it really pissed me off I could switch back to gnome but I wanted to know if I was going to kill my speed by using it if so it was gone right now
[16:30] <_Marcus> mcb_: Okay. I was just installing dropbox, and it installed fine.
[16:30] <module000> _raven: you can boot the normal live CD also, but don't use any visual tools to your mount root and /boot. your whole goal is to 1) mount root(and /boot if exists), 2) bind /dev inside it, 3) grub-install /dev/sda
[16:30] <mcb_> _marcus: \You are welcome.
[16:30] <quiescens> epaphus: iostat is just going to give you the average rates over the "active" time of the resource in question (eg. total bytes read / total amount of time the device has been online)
[16:30] <module000> donavan01: if you are tired of unity, install the gnome-developed interface instead (aptitude install gnome-shell)
[16:31] <epaphus> quiescens, ohh! is there anyway i can get the true kbytes/sec being read and write on my hd? real time
[16:31] <_raven> module000, ok what is the mounting cmd for textmode then?
[16:32] <mcb_> donavan01: I dont see why unity or gnome might interfer with each other, you only use one of the at time.... Or do you plan to put it a server?
[16:32] <module000> _raven: cryptsetup luksOpen /your/encrypted/block/device arbitrary_dm_name
[16:32] <somsip> ~
[16:32] <module000> _raven: then you mount your /dev/mapper/arbitrary_dm_name like you would any other disk
[16:32] <MonkeyDust> donavan01  unity = gnome3 with compiz
[16:32] <donavan01> mcd_ nahh its just a laptop
[16:32] <quiescens> epaphus: you might be expecting something more like iotop, or htop with its IO_RATE column enabled
[16:33] <_raven> module000, i tryed that but vgscan gave me nothing!
[16:33] <cloudgeek> happy valientine day my dear ubuntu
[16:33] <saganbyte> Hi
[16:33] <module000> _raven: but it unlocks the block device fine?
[16:33] <mcb_> Doanvan01: And is it a fhresh install? No backup / restore involved? Give it try?
[16:33] <theadmin> cloudgeek: 4 days too early :P
[16:33] <donavan01> monkeyDust   ok so basicaly I can change the compiz to other themes and such to make it do what I want
[16:33] <_raven> module000, graphically yes....
[16:34] <MonkeyDust> donavan01  i guess there's MyUnity, available as PPA, defaukt as of 12.04
[16:34] <MonkeyDust> default*
[16:34] <module000> _raven: and from the command line?
[16:34] <epaphus> quiescens, thanks
[16:34] <donavan01> mcb_ that was kinda my plan I just wanted input from others since the last verision of ubuntu I used was I think 9 something
[16:34] <quiescens> epaphus: note that they will need to be run as root if you want to include data from processes that your user doesn't own
[16:34] <_raven> module000, i am trying at the moment
[16:35] <roasted> question - if I'm going to DD one flash drive to another, what BS size is best to use? 1m? 1024k?
[16:35] <saganbyte> To enable 2 finger scrolling I m using the synclient and passing it attributes like synclient VertTwoFingerScroll=1...  Is there some place I can enter the synclient stuff so that I dont have to run it on startup?
[16:35] <saganbyte> I mean some config file for it
[16:35] <saganbyte> Coz enabling it from the Mouse settings doesnt work for me
[16:36] <module000> roasted: 1M is a pretty safe/fast bet. "best" would be an exact match of the write buffer for the device you are writing to. I would use 1M
[16:36] <roasted> module000: is there a process to find the write buffer for the device?
[16:36] <mcb_> donavan01: OK. I think you should see for yourself. I personaly didn't liked unity. But i didn't try that hard to fine tune the configurations..... So if you have the time and energy. Go for it.
[16:36] <module000> roasted: look up the specs? you could also get some information from `lsusb -vvv`
[16:37] <roasted> module000: it's a generic USB flash drive, otherwise I would just google it. I'll try the lsusb thing tho - thanks!
[16:38] <venluckey> hey, whatssup
[16:38] <donavan01> Ok one last question ... encryption... is it worth encrypting the whole drive? so should I just encrypt my home folder or what or should I even bother?
[16:39] <module000> donavan01: that depends very heavily on what exists on those drives, and how much you want to protect it.
[16:39] <theadmin> donavan01: Don't encrypt unless you know you really need it
[16:39] <pros977> donavan01: I encrypt the whole drive on my laptop. It's easy enough. Just an extra password at boot time.
[16:39] <cloudgeek> donavan01: that help learn real valaue of linux world
[16:39] <_raven> module000, where to mount boot then?
[16:39] <cloudgeek> donavan01: learn that encryption and decryption
[16:39] <module000> _raven: mount /boot inside the root mountpoint. if your root is /mnt/my_root, then you should mount /boot at /mnt/my_root/boot
[16:40] <cloudgeek> donavan01: if need to do your home folder then you need to do whole disk encryption
[16:40] <module000> _raven: that way when you chroot inside /mnt/my_root, your filesystem is arranged the same way it normally would be
[16:40] <venluckey> exit
[16:40] <_raven> module000, i forgot about boot perhaps that is the problem
[16:41] <donavan01> is there a good how to on using truecrypt or soemthing (easier the better) for ubuntu?
[16:42] <module000> donavan01: for individual files, or for encrypted an entire block device?
[16:43] <donavan01> either ... both ... I basically want to keep my files secure as im going to have a good deal of sensitive docs on this laptop
[16:43] <module000> donavan01: encrypt the entire disk then, download ubuntu "alternative installer" CD and choose full disk encryption
[16:43] <module000> donavan01: http://www.ubuntu.com/download/ubuntu/alternative-download
[16:45] <mint1> how to use mobile phone as modem in ubuntu 11.10. thanx in advance
[16:46] <_raven> module000, at vgchange to activate vgroup i only have swap activated.....
[16:47] <module000> _raven: activate your root also, that way you can mount it
[16:47] <ignerious> hello
[16:47] <MonkeyDust> !mint| mint1
[16:48] <donavan01> module000 ok im confused though ... how do I encrypt the Disk from outside the OS?  and then install the OS I thought that encryption had to happen after the OS was on the disk
[16:48] <ignerious> can any one help me error in gcc compiler
[16:49] <ircnick> is there a third way apart from copying or using livecd to increase wubi installation size
[16:49] <mcb_> MonkeyDust: mint1 is just a nick.... The guy asked about ubuntu 11.10....
[16:49] <mcb_> ignerious: If you tell the problem.... we can see we can help.
[16:49] <module000> donavan01: nono the encryption happens before the OS installs, you enable it during the installatino process
[16:50] <module000> donavan01: then when you boot up, youll get a password prompt to unlock the disk at the beginning of the boot procedure
[16:50] <vitopalumbo> irc://FreeBoaRd.DayOnIRC.Uk.To/
[16:50] <module000> donavan01: this means that if someone swipes your laptop or removes the physical disk , it will be useless to them
[16:50] <djQuery> using the unity interface is there any way to get the File | Edit etc.... menu to be attached to the actual window instead in the upper bar of the screen?
[16:50] <donavan01> the disk will or the laptop?
[16:51] <module000> donavan01: the disk will - that is what you are encrypting.
[16:51] <donavan01> just clarifying
[16:51] <ignerious> i have use pow() function in my code but while compiling it, Showing error"/tmp/ccRMZJXG.o: In function `main':
[16:51] <ignerious> Series1.c:(.text+0x83): undefined reference to `pow'
[16:51] <ignerious> collect2: ld returned 1 exit status"
[16:52] <donavan01> module000 so is it basically a function of the partition format?
[16:52] <tsimpson> ignerious: add "-lm" to the command
[16:52] <module000> donavan01: it's a kernel function, the encryption layer happens transparent to any reads/writes to the disk.
[16:52] <nikolam> How to fix boot problem with grub always selecting Memory test and not booting system? I have alternate CD
[16:52] <ignerious> gcc: error: Series1: No such file or directory
[16:53] <module000> nikolam: pastebin your /boot/grub/grub.cfg
[16:53] <Guest1634> hiiii
[16:53] <yusufaliboz> hi everyone..
[16:54] <___james___> hey, i'm having trouble with my ubuntu 10.04 server.  when i boot it cannot mount a drive (it is non specific and i now have a read-only system) and i quickly see an error mentioning the /tmp directory, can someone point me in the direction of the mount logs so that i can read what these errors are?
[16:54] <mcb_> nikolam: Are you using grub 2 or 1? if it is one you edit it in /boot/grub/menu.lst or you edit it as module000 said.
[16:54] <ignerious> gcc: error: Series1: No such file or directory
[16:54] <tsimpson> ignerious: like "gcc Series1.c -lm"
[16:54] <nikolam> mcb_, it is grub 2, I am on 10.04 LTS
[16:54] <whitelynx> hey... i'm trying to get a minimal system put together using ubuntu core oneiric, and i'm having trouble getting the flash plugin installed... i added universe and multiverse to sources.list and synced, but when i try installing flashplugin-installer, it gives me an HTTP 404 response on flashplugin-downloader (specifically, the file adobe-flashplugin_11.0.1.152.orig.tar.gz)
[16:55] <whitelynx> i haven't been able to find any info online relating to the download itself getting a 404... only things i've found are where repositories get a 404 when updating, which isn't happening to me
[16:55] <ignerious> yeah i have done it but same thing happen
[16:55] <whitelynx> and other packages have been installing fine
[16:55] <ignerious> gcc -lm Series1 Series1.c
[16:56] <donavan01> module000 not what I mean ... let me see if I can explain what Im asking better... initially the disk will be formatted in something like FAT or whatever lunix uses ... then before the OS is coppied to the Disk the installer will encrypt the whole drive making even the empty space look like junk to anyone trying to snoop... once that is done the OS is installed like normal... then each time them computer boots it will ask for
[16:56] <donavan01>  a password to access the hard drive so that the OS can boot... does that about sum up whats going on or have I misunderstood what I have read?
[16:56] <Lint> how to choose login language in 11.10
[16:56] <mcb_> nikolam: Try editing  "/etc/default/grub" chose "GRUB_DEFAULT=0"
[16:56] <tsimpson> ignerious: no, just "gcc Series1.c -lm", if you want the program file to be "Series1", then run "gcc Series1.c -lm -o Series1"
[16:57] <nikolam> module000, it is hard to do that, since I have no net on that machine. I suppose I should change something in that grub.cfg file and run a command to update
[16:57] <nikolam> mcb_, I see but installgrub from alternate cd is how to update grub?
[16:57] <LukeNukem_> when i try viewing images in browser on localhost, i get forbidden
[16:57] <LukeNukem_> any ideas?
[16:58] <mcb_> nikolam: from upgrading grub you should refer to the grub documentation.
[16:58] <ignerious> Thanks It worked
[16:58] <vandal--> szal, i've chaged it, if you are interested: xmodmap -e "keycode 91 = KP_Delete period KP_Delete period"
[16:59] <Guido1> hello. some movies have disapeard. at least i can't find them any longer and i surched al partitions. are there any sugestions what i can do? a special search or how i can restore it, if it is deletend (and the trash emptied)
[16:59] <superdave321> !grub | nikolam
[16:59] <Bubo> hello
[16:59] <Bubo> i have a problem with ubuntu 11.10
[16:59] <Guido1> (ubuntu 10.04)
[16:59] <MonkeyDust> Guido1  there's testdisk and scalpel for file recovery
[16:59] <mjfork> can anyone point me to a guide for installing and running unity following a minimal install
[17:00] <Bubo> my computer freezes for 2-3 sec every 10 sec while downloading torrent/file or streaming a hd video from youtube
[17:00] <Josssse> Hello guys. Is there a way i can install gedit 2 instead of gedit 3? it is incompatible with the latex plugin which i use very often.
[17:01] <Bubo> my computer freezes for 2-3 sec every 10 sec while downloading torrent/file or streaming a hd video from youtube. - can anyone help with this?
[17:01] <Bubo> its really really annoying..
[17:02] <auronandace> mjfork: wouldn't it just simply be sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop?
[17:03] <mjfork> auronandace: trying now...i tried unity :-)
[17:03] <sadan> #islam
[17:04] <sadan> # islam
[17:04] <MonkeyDust> sadan  try /join #islam
[17:05] <Bubo> my computer freezes for 2-3 sec every 10 sec while downloading torrent/file or streaming a hd video from youtube. - can anyone help with this?
[17:07] <MonkeyDust> Bubo  have you tried html5 ? http://www.youtube.com/html5
[17:07] <arno> hi
[17:07] <Guido1> Okee, i instaled testdisk and scalpel, but i can't find them back
[17:08] <Guest64923> i have install LMT 12 , and i search to make a link to open /usr/bin/scangearmp /usr/share/scangearmp
[17:08] <Bubo> MonkeyDust: that wont work with my problem while downloading torrents or files
[17:08] <Guest64923> sorry
[17:09] <Guido1> MonkeyDust: okee, i instaled the programs, but i can't find them back. i guees they are terminal programs. is that right? how do i start them
[17:10] <mcb_> Bubo: is your system doing a lot of swaping? How is your memory consumption? Have you checked that?
[17:10] <Bubo> sec
[17:10] <Bubo> how do i check how much swaping its doing ?
[17:11] <Bubo> 1.1GB used from 3.9GB
[17:11] <mcb_> comand "free" will tell you.
[17:11] <zorael> How do you force a mime-type cache refresh in GNOME? (What's the equavilent of KDE's kbuildsycoca4?)
[17:12] <Bubo> mcb_: http://paste.ubuntu.com/836777/
[17:12] <Bubo> how is that ?
[17:15] <Bubo> 256MB swap memory.. isnt that little?
[17:15] <Excell> hi all
[17:15] <Mike9863> How can I make it so windows minimize when I scroll down on the title bar?
[17:16] <wisnia> hi all , i downloaded kde-full but i dont know how to run kde, anyone can help?
[17:16] <Excell> can anyone help with a php.ini problem
[17:16] <theadmin> wisnia: Log out, choose the KDE session, log back in
[17:16] <thevaliantx> anyone know where i can download PinguyOS 11.04?  Their website is down.
[17:16] <mcb_> Bubo: 17 MB of swaping wouldn't hang the system..... With torrents and youtube, only your web browser hangs, or is it realy all the system, so that you can not even access a terminal? And, yes i think 256 MB of swap little, but normaly i run with swap = 0. So it is not realy an issue..... At least from my point of view.
[17:17] <auronandace> thevaliantx: why not use ubuntu instead?
[17:17] <nikolam> Bubo, it might be hdd problem or update your flash or check what graphics do you use
[17:17] <Bubo> whole system hangs
[17:17] <Bubo> while DLing
[17:17] <Bubo> it isnt flash..
[17:17] <Lint> how to choose login language in 11.10?
[17:17] <Excell> i have check the location of the php.ini but when i edit the file in /etc/php5/apache2/ it has no effect no changes are shown phpinfo()?
[17:17] <Bubo> i DLed a video now, and when it was 90% till the end it freezes and the CPU usage in system monitor were all 4 CPUs over 90%..
[17:17] <jaybutts> probably cpu usage look at top
[17:17] <travis333> hopefully this can be answered and im not the only one seeing this.I keep Chromium locked in the unity launcher and every time I open it it makes a new icon in the launcher, anyone know whats going on to cause that?
[17:18] <s9iper1> xerosis:
[17:18] <Benkinooby2> hi, i'm on a lenovo t43p and watching youtube videos is quite resource consuming.. anything i can do about that?
[17:18] <Bubo> Why would the 4 CPU usage go crazy to 100% while saving? the video.. after 95%..
[17:19] <auronandace> Benkinooby2: nope, thats flash's fault
[17:19] <Excell> anyone ?
[17:19] <Benkinooby2> auronandace,  :(
[17:19] <mcb_> Excell: Have you restarted apache?
[17:20] <Excell> mcb_ yes and also a complete reboot
[17:20] <Benkinooby2> auronandace, what about that HTML5 stuff?
[17:20] <MrChrisDruif> OerHeks; ah, you're also here? =P
[17:20] <auronandace> Benkinooby2: if your vid is available in html5 that would be great, it would indeed be less resource intensive
[17:21] <javierf_> Hi! One question: Is it possible to have /home on a nfts partition? For work reasons, I need to use windows, but I prefer ubuntu on my leasure time. But it would be great to share home partition in both SO. I'm not a purist, so it's not a phylosophical question (I know nfts is not an open source format type), just practical. Thanks!
[17:21] <jaybutts> bubo, it is flash which uses alot of cpu..but you say 'downloading' so I assume you mean you are downloading it and not watching it, what does the iowait look like? sound like it could be a hardware issue, try tunnning down flash and using a mod for your browser that lets you watch flash videos using an external program
[17:21] <mcb_> Excell: You can check if the proprety you are changing is not beening changed twice. If it appears in another line of the file, it will have the second velue it get.
[17:22] <Bubo> jaybutts:
[17:22] <auronandace> javierf_: no, you need a linux filesystem for /home because of file permissions
[17:22] <Bubo> i have dual boot with windows, and no problems there at all
[17:22] <Bubo> the hanging is occuring while wathicng a hd youtube video or downloading ANY file or torrent with bigger speed than 500KB/s
[17:22] <jaybutts> bubo: flash is worse in linux on CPU, what is your CPU?
[17:23] <travis333> anyone know why when Chromium is kept in the Unity launcher and you open it it makes a new icon in the launcher?
[17:23] <Bubo> but im not using flash at all...
[17:23] <javierf_> auronandace, ok, that's very explicative. Thanks. And, is there any way to make ext4 partition more accesible to windows? (just like I access nfts files from ubuntu)
[17:23] <Lunar_Lander> hello
[17:23] <Bubo> all 4 CPUs @30%
[17:23] <mcb_> Bubo: I agree with jaybutts. It may be a hardware issue.
[17:23] <spyvspy> anyone have any lessons learned/metrics on the max amount of rsyncs a server can handle before things start to get hairy?
[17:23] <zorael> How do you force a mime-type cache refresh in GNOME or Unity? update-desktop-database?
[17:23] <Bubo> with running pidgin kvirc firefox transmission (Dling torrent) vlc
[17:23] <Excell> ok i will have a look for that but seems unlikley as i am changeing max_file_upload and max_post_size and neither are changing , when i rename the config file phpinfo() loads with no config file so I am 100% sure its the correct config file unless these values can be changed elseware
[17:24] <auronandace> javierf_: i wouldn't use any 3rd party ext drivers for windows, wouldn't trust them
[17:24] <jaybutts> Bubo: Boot into single user and Run FSCK on your drive
[17:24] <Bubo> if i stop transmission if i stop the torrent (the download) everything goes back to normal
[17:24] <Bubo> and it cant be a hardware problem if i have no problems at all on windows (same pc)
[17:24] <Bubo> I have no idea how to do that
[17:24] <auronandace> javierf_: i use a ntfs storage partition that both OS's can mount
[17:24] <Lunar_Lander> on my Ubuntu PC, that BIOS screen "with the Intel Logo and press DEL to setup" takes quite long. Then I cut the power to the PC, switched the power back on and then the LEDs on my Keyboard lit up and stayed on. Then it didn't recognize the USB WLAN receiver and when I then put in the Knoppix LIVE DVD, it almost hang at "Hardware Abstraction Layer"
[17:24] <Lunar_Lander> something wrong with the hardware then?
[17:24] <Benkinooby2> auronandace,  ok i wll head for that ... also will do some investigations towards unsing minitube or vlc to play vids from youtube
[17:24] <Benkinooby2> auronandace, thank you for your input
[17:25] <Bubo> While DLing i get random freezes (random cpu usage @ 100%)
[17:25] <mcb_> Excell: You should also look if php.ini has any includes statements. If it has you have to look into that files too.
[17:25] <Bubo> i press pause on the torrent everything goes back in a moment
[17:25] <Bubo> goes back to normal*
[17:25] <auronandace> Benkinooby2: no worries :) (good idea to download and watch them too)
[17:25] <mcb_> Excell: And i say that cause it happened to me once...... :)
[17:25] <Benkinooby2> auronandace, using minitube it only requires 27%
[17:26] <jaybutts> Bubo: probably a drive issue or kernel issue, it has to be...try a new kernel long term but first off run fsck on your drive
[17:26] <Benkinooby2> auronandace, usually it's at 50 or more
[17:26] <Excell> ok thanks i am looking at the file now mcb_
[17:26] <Benkinooby2> auronandace, i don't think minitube downloads it...
[17:26] <Bubo> how do i run fsck on my drive? also "try a new kernel long term" - what do you mean by that ?
[17:26] <javierf_> aurona
[17:26] <travis333> anyone know why when Chromium is kept in the Unity launcher and you open it it makes a new icon in the launcher?
[17:26] <Benkinooby2> auronandace, also vlc can stream the vid directly... just enter the youtube url as stream :D
[17:26] <javierf_> auronandace, you mean, you don't have your files in /home partition but in a third one that you use together in windows and ubuntu?
[17:27] <auronandace> javierf_: yes, makes using multiple OS's a whole lot easier
[17:27] <Benkinooby2> auronandace, vlc just has trouble with youtube again :(
[17:27] <fasad> how can i insert Unicode characters while typing in Gedit ?
[17:27] <Bubo> I think i had this problem from the start of installing ubuntu through wubi.. How can I reinstall ubuntu but without losing software and settings ? :\ is it possible?
[17:28] <jacer> javier, while there's nothing wrong with that, using ntfs probably isn't the best idea.
[17:28] <Benkinooby2> javierf_, the only thing you have to think about is the file system... using FAT32 would be the safest because all OS can work with it
[17:28] <hceylan> Bıth xchat and xchat-gnome closes when I close the window
[17:28] <javierf_> Benkinooby2, but, if I will use windows 7 and ubuntu, nfts should be ok, shouldn't it?
[17:28] <hceylan> is there a way to keep it running and use the indicator?
[17:28] <auronandace> Benkinooby2: fat32 has a 4gb max filesize limit, so ntfs is really the only option
[17:29] <Benkinooby2> javierf_, i am not sure how safe it is to use ubunto on ntfs
[17:29] <jacer> the linux driver for NTFS is quirky.  You can read it safely, but every write function has the potential to fubar your system.
[17:29] <jacer> or at least the ntfs partition.
[17:29] <javierf_> auronandace, so, let's say, you have /home partition for some things, like configuration files. But how many Gb should I have there?
[17:29] <Bubo> How can I reinstall ubuntu but without losing software and settings ? :\ is it possible? without formatting the drive
[17:30] <javierf_> Benkinooby2, what's better in Fat32 than ntfs?
[17:30] <auronandace> javierf_: up to you, i don't use a seperate home partition
[17:30] <Benkinooby2> javierf_, that windows and linux can both use it safely
[17:30] <Excell> mcb_ nothing there its basiclly the default config file
[17:30] <auronandace> Benkinooby2: thats true of ntfs too
[17:30] <javierf_> Benkinooby2, ok. Just, I thought it was the same for nfts files
[17:30] <Lunar_Lander> on my Ubuntu PC, that BIOS screen "with the Intel Logo and press DEL to setup" takes quite long. Then I cut the power to the PC, switched the power back on and then the LEDs on my Keyboard lit up and stayed on. Then it didn't recognize the USB WLAN receiver and when I then put in the Knoppix LIVE DVD, it almost hang at "Hardware Abstraction Layer"
[17:31] <jaybutts> Bubo: do this, it will shutdown your computer and do fsck before shutdown (easier) - fsck will check and repair your disc - run this as root: shutdown -rF  ; echo "I don't know about wubi but I herd of performance problems with that"
[17:31] <Benkinooby2> auronandace, afaic ntfs is not safe for linux writing on it
[17:31] <Benkinooby2> !ntfs
[17:31] <Benkinooby2> !ntfs-3g
[17:31] <auronandace> Benkinooby2: ntfs write support has been stable for years
[17:32] <Bubo> jaybutts: so in terminal i should just write shutdown -rF
[17:32] <Bubo> ?
[17:32] <jaybutts> yea
[17:32] <Bubo> and after that ?
[17:32] <Bubo> it will start everything automatically or ?
[17:32] <jaybutts> it will shut down and fix your disc errors
[17:32] <Bubo> ok thanks
[17:32] <Bubo> ill do it now
[17:32] <Benkinooby2> auronandace, ok... i once used it (i admit: was some time ago) and it really messed up stuff... never heard that it is safe to use... but you might be right
[17:32] <javierf_> Benkinooby2, auronandace : ok, i will google it a bit and make conclusions :) Thanks!
[17:32] <mcb_> Excell: And when you see the http page with phpinfo() it still show the old valuel? What are you trying to change? I forgot.....
[17:33] <Bubo> jaybutts: it says Time expected
[17:33] <Benkinooby2> javierf_, the choice i made was to use a linux file system and then install a linux file system driver to windows. because the fs-drivers for linux a re open, the are reliable to use in windows
[17:33] <Bubo> shutdown: time expected
[17:33] <Mike9863> When I connect to a certain ssh server in terminal, the command line doesn't show the directory I'm in and the terminal title still lists it as though I'm connected to my computer.
[17:34] <hceylan> auronandace, FAT32 can hold 2TB, you are confusing it with FAT16 - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File_Allocation_Table#FAT32
[17:34] <Excell> mcb_ upload_max_filesize 100M
[17:34] <Bubo> Also any idea why it would say Authentication failed when i write su and then my password..
[17:34] <rumpe1> hceylan, he meant max file size
[17:35] <Paste> www.paste.co.il
[17:35] <jacer> hceylan: fat32 has a filesize limit of 4gb. The partition can be 2tb, but an individual file cannot excede 4gigs -1 byte
[17:35] <hceylan> ruger3339, uh sorry
[17:35] <jaybutts> bubo: sorry, it just wants you to give a time till shutdown, just do this, shutdown -rF 1
[17:35] <auronandace> hceylan: max file size for fat32 is 4gb, that wikipedia article says that too, the 2tb size is referring to size of partition
[17:35] <hceylan> jacer, got that, sorry
[17:35] <Excell> mcb_ post_max_size 100M
[17:35] <hceylan> auronandace, OK....
[17:35] <CharminTheMoose> Can I compile/install a kernel and update initrd for use with a new kernel and then just move the /lib/modules/<version>, /boot kernel files and initrd to another machine and boot it?
[17:35] <javierf_> Benkinooby2, I'm afraid I didn't understand the whole story. So, you have a driver in windows that let's you read linux file system? I only know a kind of explorer for ext files but it's very unpractical, because you need to save everything to windows hard drive if you want to use it
[17:36] <jacer> Let's say it a few more times.
[17:37] <hceylan> Anyways, does any1 know how to keep xchat / xchat-gnome in the notification area on Unity?
[17:37] <Paste> www.paste.co.il
[17:37] <hceylan> I am on 11.10 with all the updates are applied
[17:38] <mcb_> Excell: I am trying to do same in here. Wait a moment.
[17:38] <pangolin> Paste: Please stop spamming your paste site
[17:38] <Excell> ok no problem mcb_ thanks for helping
[17:38] <Lunar_Lander> OK
[17:38] <Lunar_Lander> where on the Ubuntu site can I find the system requirements?
[17:40] <airtonix> Bubo: if you want to reinstall ubuntu properly (as in not wubi) then no, you will lose everything.
[17:41] <javierf_> Benkinooby2, what is that linyx file system driver for windows you talk about? Does it work with ext4?
[17:41] <Tgirl53> i have ubuntu 11.? the latest type, but i relly dont like it. i want ubuntu 7 back. A friend changed it to 10 and i upgraded it to 11.
[17:41] <riyonuk> How does multiple SSH keys work? Do people just name the id_rsa to something else when they run ssh-keygen? Just trying to understand this.
[17:41] <airtonix> javierf_: wouldn't trust it with data you don't want to loose.
[17:42] <Excell> mcb_ somthing very strange here just tried changing somthing else and its no having any effect it must be getting config fom somewhere else
[17:42] <airtonix> riyonuk: ssh will try the first 6 or 7 of the private keys in ~/.ssh after that if none work, it fails unless your add -o PubKeyAuthentication=no
[17:42] <Benkinooby2> javierf_, i don't know about ext4... it worked for ext2 for me... but i choose ext2 for other reasons
[17:42] <airtonix> riyonuk: you won't know which keys it will try or what order either.
[17:42] <riyonuk> Ahh.
[17:42] <Excell> mcb_ loaded config file /etc/php5/apache2/php.ini
[17:42] <riyonuk> so it doesn't matter what they're named?
[17:42] <Bubo> jaybutts: that only restarted my pc, nothing else..
[17:43] <Tgirl53> how do you downgrade comuter also my computer is a mini and has no cd
[17:43] <riyonuk> cause I was just going to name them off the account, instead of id_rsa.pub, work.pub, or school.pub
[17:43] <airtonix> riyonuk: however I usually sidestep this by specifying shortcut host in ~/.ssh/config
[17:43] <xangua> !downgrade | Tgirl53
[17:44] <mcb_> Excell: Iam having the same here. I thouth it maybe my browser cache.... but i look it up from anothe machine..... But i think it is some kind of caching.....
[17:44] <Excell> hmm ok i can check that hold on
[17:44] <airtonix> riyonuk: the .pub is important. and prefixing them with id_rsa reminds you that they are rsa format keys
[17:44] <pangolin> Tgirl53: you will need to do a clean install of the version that worked for you. see /msg ubottu USB for how to install without a CD.
[17:45] <airtonix> riyonuk: they aso come in pairs, a private and a public.
[17:45] <Tgirl53> ???
[17:45] <riyonuk> so I should have id_rsa_github, id_rsa_github.pub, and id_rsa_school, id_rsa_school.pub? :D
[17:45] <airtonix> riyonuk: yes.
[17:46] <Excell> mcb_ not a chaching problem for sure
[17:46] <Tgirl53> where do i do this and how?
[17:46] <xangua> !usb | Tgirl53
[17:46] <airtonix> riyonuk: never store the private keys (ones without .pub) on machines you don't trust/have no control over
[17:46] <riyonuk> right
[17:46] <riyonuk> I just use my macbook for everything though
[17:47] <riyonuk> okay, with that said, ima delete all my keys and do this the right way
[17:47] <rumpe1> airtonix, the .pub keys are the public ones
[17:48] <mcb_> Excell: Are you using the Zend php5?
[17:48] <riyonuk> one more question. what's a good "comment convention"? ssh-keygen -t rsa -C "your_email@youremail.com"
[17:48] <riyonuk> cause I assume the email is the comment..
[17:49] <karthick87> Is there any tool in ubuntu to display IP Address in systems wallpaper?
[17:49] <Tgirl53> so do i have to delete Ubuntu11 after i put on ubuntu7
[17:49] <airtonix> rumpe1: yes? I did say that.
[17:49] <xangua> Tgirl53: ubuntu 7.04 and 7.10 are no logner supported
[17:49] <mcb_> Excell: It configures a php.ini file in "/usr/local/zend/lib/etc" I changed there and Voila! It works!
[17:50] <Excell> just install apache2 php and mysql as per the ubuntu help page
[17:50] <Excell> no zend
[17:50] <Tgirl53> any lower than ten
[17:50] <airtonix> riyonuk: depends. remember that the comment can also appear in the ~/.ssh/authorized_keys on your various remote hosts ( so you'll want to look at those files a year from now and not have to rack your brains on which public key comes from where or if it's ok to remove it)
[17:50] <Excell> what does your path say for the php inc file
[17:51] <kerryn> i have unity and i installed compiz but when i enable cube its just a flat panel with 2 sides
[17:51] <mcb_> Excell: Give a look in /usr/local/zend/lib and see the is a php.ini there. Else, do a find for php.ini
[17:51] <Lint> why the hell ubuntu replaced my smb.conf file during upgrade?
[17:51] <mcb_> Excell: The path is "/usr/local/zend/lib/etc".....
[17:52] <airtonix> kerryn: obviously you need to create more workspaces/virtual desktops in compizconfig-settings-manager
[17:52] <Excell> no I dont have zend my path /etc/php5/apache2/php.ini
[17:52] <kerryn> @airtonix ... how ??
[17:52] <mcb_> Excell: In the "core" section of the phpinfo() page, there is an item: extension_dir: start there.
[17:52] <wisnia> hi all , who knows how to change kde desktop font?
[17:52] <airtonix> kerryn: if you don't have compizconfig-settings-manager, install it: sudo apt-get install compizconfig-settings-manager, then run it : ccsm
[17:52] <Excell> on mcb_ i look
[17:53] <kerryn> @airtonix i have it
[17:53] <riyonuk> airtonix: Ahh, such a good point! Does it have to be an email?
[17:54] <jonathan__> any ways to send/receive SMS from my laptop to my girl friend android phone?
[17:54] <airtonix> riyonuk: not that i'm aware of.
[17:54] <tsimpson> wisnia: probably in: System Settings -> Application Appearance -> Font
[17:54] <airtonix> jonathan__: be more specific please
[17:54] <riyonuk> airtonix: I think it would be more apparent if I did ssh-keygen -t rsa -C "me@email.com GitHub"
[17:55] <airtonix> riyonuk: perhaps, personally i put email-address, user@machine-name
[17:55] <jounc> I don't speak in english.
[17:55] <Excell> mcb_ /usr/lib/php5/20090626+lfs in there is just *.so files
[17:55] <macmartine> Anyone know how to keep ISPConfig from writing auth_basic "Members Only"; an requiring login to access a site?
[17:55] <kerryn> ??
[17:55] <jonathan__> airtonix : i wish to to send/receive text messages from my laptop to a cell phone
[17:56] <kraz3d> What's the command for terminal that shows the amount of RAM my system has?
[17:56] <airtonix> jonathan__: you want to send sms via the phone but using your keyboard on the computer ?
[17:56] <Spec> cat /proc/meminfo
[17:56] <rumpe1> kraz3d, free
[17:56] <kraz3d> Ah, thankyou.
[17:56] <mcb_> Excell: In the web page that display phpinfo(), there is an item: "extension_dir", it is in the "CORE" section of the report. It showed the path for me.
[17:56] <airtonix> jonathan__: or do you want to send sms through the internet that will arrive at the phone?
[17:56] <archx>  xX420B0ngSm0k4Xx  - just use a free online SMS service - http://cbfsms.com
[17:57] <jonathan__> airtonix : i dont have a cell phone with me, just a laptop. My friend has a cell phone but she's not with me.
[17:57] <Excell> mcb extensio_dir /usr/lib/php5/20090626+lfs no config files in there
[17:57] <airtonix> jonathan__: ok then this isn't the channel for that
[17:57] <boobsbr> can I create a sparse file image of an ext3 partition and then mount it?
[17:57] <jonathan__> okydouky
[17:57] <jounc> hey. i'm new here. what heve?
[17:58] <Forbidden_404> I'm new too
[17:58] <jounc> yeah
[17:58] <Lunar_Lander> one more question: Does 11.10 run OK with 2.4 GHz Celeron and 1 GB RAM?
[17:58] <airtonix> Lunar_Lander: not really.
[17:58] <Lunar_Lander> how much RAM is good?
[17:58] <Forbidden_404> I use a 6 GB RAM 2,40GHZ and still doesnt working fine
[17:58] <airtonix> Lunar_Lander: although if you had a pretty decent nvidia 3d card it might
[17:58] <auronandace> !lubuntu | Lunar_Lander
[17:58] <badola_> I use Ubuntu 11.10 on Dell XPS L501x, it comes with Nvidia optimus technology, but in Linux only onboard GPU works and when I tried to install  Nvidia driver, it didn't work
[17:59] <badola_> Any Help..??
[17:59] <Lint> why the hell ubuntu replaced my smb.conf file during upgrade?
[17:59] <Lunar_Lander> thanks airtonix, auronandace
[17:59] <module000> Lint: because you told it to when you upgraded?
 Look for Hybrid Graphics
[17:59] <Lint> module000, it didn't
[17:59] <Lunar_Lander> but wait, doesn't Knoppix also use LDXE?
[18:00] <badola_> Forbidden_404: any link..??
[18:00] <splashote> hi, where can i change the theme of unity 2d?
[18:00] <Forbidden_404> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HybridGraphics
[18:00] <jounc> linux is a so very interesting...
[18:00] <auronandace> Lunar_Lander: i didn't realise knoppix was still going! i don't know what it uses and #ubuntu isn't really the best place to ask that
[18:00] <airtonix> Lunar_Lander: last time i checked the k in knoppix represented kde
[18:00] <Forbidden_404> Guys, I need a real help now, this is my last try with ubuntu ):
[18:01] <Lunar_Lander> oh ok
[18:01] <airtonix> threats won't work
[18:01] <Lunar_Lander> sorry
[18:01] <Forbidden_404> My connection works fine, but... when I try to access facebook or twitter, any site like this
[18:01] <Lunar_Lander> auronandace, airtonix thanks again for the suggestion
[18:01] <module000> Lint: what type of upgrade did you do? you should have been prompted to choose new, existing, or manually edit the config file conflicts
[18:01] <mcb_> Excell: Try "locate php.ini" It will show you all the php.ini files that you have on disk. One of then has to be the right one.......
[18:01] <auronandace> Lunar_Lander: no worries :)
[18:01] <Lunar_Lander> I got another question: could I just install Lubuntu over Ubuntu and keep my files?
[18:01] <Forbidden_404> I can see the site, but I cant do anything, I update my status and then start to load...
[18:01] <Forbidden_404> loading till the connection falls
[18:01] <Lint> normal upgrade via update-manager
[18:02] <auronandace> Lunar_Lander: sure, sudo apt-get install lubuntu-desktop
[18:02] <auronandace> Lunar_Lander: then when you next login choose lxde
[18:02] <Forbidden_404> Please, someone help me, I just configured all the network settings
[18:02] <Lunar_Lander> ah
[18:03] <Forbidden_404> I changed the network-manager for wicd
[18:03] <module000> mcb_: you can `php -i | grep ini`, that wills how you the config file php is using
[18:03] <Forbidden_404> anything did it work
[18:03] <Lunar_Lander> auronandace: the problem is just that there seems to be a hardware malfunction
[18:03] <Lunar_Lander> thus, the keyboard lights up at PC start and the USB WLAN receiver isn't recognized
[18:03] <module000> mcb_: and there are a few in /etc/php depending which packages you haev installed... eg a php.ini for php invoked from CLI, and a seperate one for CGI invocatinos
[18:04] <Lunar_Lander> thus I am looking for a cheap PC now to transplant the HDD to, auronandace
[18:04] <zorael> Anyone know an easy way to check (from a shell script) if the user is on a mac, beyond checking uname for Darwin?
[18:04] <Benkinooby2> auronandace, wow... minitube uses half the cpu compared to chromium or firefox... even when they are using html 5()
[18:05] <Lint> how to transform 'smb://xxxxx/file' filename to normal one suitable for programms?
[18:05] <hceylan> #xchat
[18:05] <Lunar_Lander> auronandace: do you think the Celeron I described could hold out the lubuntu installation?
[18:05] <recon_lap> wow, everything looks so small after doing a bit of setup on  the rig with the 32inch
[18:05] <Lunar_Lander> i.e. would it be able to run it
[18:06] <auronandace> Lunar_Lander: should do yes
[18:06] <Forbidden_404> Please, someone can help me?
[18:06] <_monk_> I love blackbox
[18:06] <_monk_> even xfce
[18:06] <Lunar_Lander> thanks auronandace
[18:06] <Lunar_Lander> so just do sudo apt-get lubuntu-desktop?
[18:06] <papa_> cinnamon is looking good
[18:06] <Lunar_Lander> ah with the install of course
[18:06] <Lint> Lunar_Lander, yes it will, but lxde is close to unusable
[18:07] <auronandace> Lunar_Lander: yes
[18:07] <papa_> xfce>lxde
[18:07] <Lunar_Lander> I was just told that lubuntu is more slim than gnome
[18:07] <Benkinooby2> Lint, why?
[18:07] <theadmin> papa_: Agreed :)
[18:07] <papa_> :D
[18:07] <papa_> thunar>pcmanfm ;)
[18:07] <Lint> Benkinooby2, it misses features you can expect from a gui desktop (windows 95 included)
[18:08] <theadmin> papa_: spacefm > thunar :P
[18:08] <papa_> hehe
[18:08] <papa_> xfce has many good apps
[18:08] <recon_lap> some of this chat should really go to ubuntu-offtopic
[18:08] <Lint> Lunar_Lander, Gnome3 or XFCE will work too, and they are more functional than lxde
[18:08] <sheepsy> Query: Was just going to download ubuntu server and noticed that the main download url offers either 11.10 or 10.04, but not 11.04. I can still find 11.04 in releases list. Just wondering why LTS is 10.04 not 11.04?
[18:09] <Lunar_Lander> Lint so what should I install now?
[18:09] <auronandace> Lint: gnome3 on an old celeron? you make me laugh
[18:09] <oCean> sheepsy: LTS releases are every 2 years, so 8.04, 10.04 and 12.04 will be again
[18:09] <recon_lap> sheepsy: LTS have a 3 year support cycle and a 2 year release cycle , 12.04 next lts
[18:10] <_monk_> blackbox my friend
[18:10] <Forbidden_404> 12.04 in march, right?
[18:10] <theadmin> Forbidden_404: April.
[18:10] <_monk_> its easy to figure out
[18:10] <theadmin> Forbidden_404: It's YY.MM
[18:10] <sheepsy> Ah. Thank you oCean and recon_lap
[18:10] <Lint> auronandace, it's not 'old celeron', it's P4 compatible and 64-bit
[18:10] <_monk_> or xfce wich is easier
[18:10] <Forbidden_404> Oh, I'm waiting for it, hoping that it end my problems with 11.10
[18:10] <_monk_> and have better apps
[18:10] <oCean> recon_lap: sheepsy LTS have 5yr support for -server edition; 12.04 will come with 5 years support for desktop too :)
[18:11] <recon_lap> my bad
[18:11]  * Lint notes that you can play Skyrim on that 'old celeron'
[18:11] <Forbidden_404> guys, I did the setup of my connection, I did everything, but still doesnt working some websites... Gwibber isnt accepting my facebook account, and Windows Live Messenger isnt working in any chat app
[18:12] <sheepsy> oCean: thanks.
[18:12] <Lint> how to transform gfvs 'smb://xxxxx/file' filename to normal one suitable for programms?
[18:12] <module000> Lint: that is a URI. you should mount it so you have a real path
[18:13] <Lint> but I already have it mounted by file manager, or not?
[18:13] <Forbidden_404> )))))))):
[18:13] <module000> Lint: look at the output of `mount` and see if it' slisted, if so then you have it mounted as well
[18:13] <module000> Lint: otherwise `smbmount //hostname//share /mount/point`
[18:13] <module000> Lint: correction, //host/share, not //host//share
[18:13]  * Forbidden_404 lol
[18:14]  * Forbidden_404 is derping
[18:14] <oCean> Forbidden_404: please stop the silly /me messages
[18:14] <israel> i have a problem, my mail server do not send mails but it can recive them, what could it be?
[18:14] <llutz> israel: check log /var/log/mail*
[18:14] <module000> israel: what error do you receive for outbound smtp traffic?
[18:14] <badola_> Forbidden_404: doesn't seems to work for Nvidia GPU... :P
[18:14] <Lint> module000, lol it was in $HOME\.gvfs\<label>
[18:15] <datruth> I'm unable to get oidentd to function under NAT is there an alternative app?
[18:15] <module000> Lint: that's not a real mount point, that's the gnome virtual file system making it accessible to nautilus. mount it like you would a normal network share
[18:15] <Forbidden_404> badola: Tried everything in there? Well, my ATI worked fine, has a bug for Nvidia, but is in there too
[18:15] <Tu13es> I mounted a network share using Places > Connect to Server, and it's fine in the gui browser...where do I find it in the terminal?
[18:15] <Tu13es> /mnt/theshare shows empty
[18:15] <israel> llutz: all the mails that are send stay queued
[18:16] <llutz> israel:and? check log /var/log/mail* to get a possible reason
[18:16] <module000> Tu13es: you need to mount it like you would a real share, not using gnome's 'connect to server'
[18:16] <Tu13es> gotcha
[18:18] <israel_> Feb 10 12:14:48 correo postfix/smtp[26503]: 8962B2341A9: to=<stahlwalter@hotmail.com>, relay=mx2.hotmail.com[65.55.37.88]:25, delay=0.63, delays=0.02/0/0.29/0.32, dsn=2.0.0, status=sent (250 <20120210181442.91AAB232F86@mail1.alexacorp.com> Queued mail for delivery)
[18:18] <jounc> bye....
[18:18] <Forbidden_404> anyone cant help me here, okay.
[18:19] <cfhowlett> !ask|Forbidden_404:
[18:20] <akpk> how to clear dns cache ??
[18:20] <israel_> llutz:Feb 10 12:14:48 correo postfix/smtp[26503]: 8962B2341A9: to=<stahlwalter@hotmail.com>, relay=mx2.hotmail.com[65.55.37.88]:25, delay=0.63, delays=0.02/0/0.29/0.32, dsn=2.0.0, status=sent (250 <20120210181442.91AAB232F86@mail1.alexacorp.com> Queued mail for delivery)
[18:21] <_monk_> lol
[18:22] <IceD^> trying to rebuild libav package. `dpkg-buildpackage -rfakeroot -b` worked for 1.5h, crashed and didn't provide me with single deb
[18:22] <IceD^> any better way?
[18:22] <usuario> i won
[18:22] <macmartine> Can anyone help with this ISPConfig question? http://serverfault.com/questions/358889/stop-ispconfig-from-making-new-sites-require-a-login
[18:22] <usuario> i won i won i wooooooon
[18:22] <oCean> usuario: do you have an ubuntu support question?
[18:23] <usuario> yes
[18:23] <usuario> how i won?
[18:23] <oCean> usuario: please start making sense
[18:23] <usuario> ive got a second oppinion: penis
[18:23] <cfhowlett> good riddance
[18:23] <llutz> israel_:  postqueue -p
[18:24] <maintenance> Salut a tous, j'ai un probleme assez etrange  sous une 11.10 avec la session gnome classic : il m'est impossible de modifier le tableau de bord ? quelqu'un aurait une idée ?
[18:25] <pangolin> !fr | maintenance
[18:25] <israel_> llutz: what does de postqueue -p do?
[18:25] <maintenance> sorry :-)
[18:25] <cfhowlett> pangolin: dang you're fast fingered!
[18:25] <CharminTheMoose_> Can I compile/install a kernel and update initrd for use with a new kernel and then just move the /lib/modules/<version>, /boot kernel files and initrd to another machine and boot it?
[18:25] <llutz> israel_: man postqueue (print queue)
[18:27] <Forbidden_404> > guys, I did the setup of my connection, I did everything, but still doesnt working some websites... Gwibber isnt accepting my facebook account, and Windows Live Messenger isnt working in any chat app
[18:28] <holstein> Forbidden_404: you could elaborate as to what "i did everything" means... you can try different DNS servers, and also just try pinging things... you want to make sure its not your ISP or router/modem.. try and reduce variables and test
[18:31] <Forbidden_404> I tried differente dns servers, Ping works, because the site works too, I just cant update anything in ther. I configured the router with dsl, just to make the wifi works, it works, but like I said, I cant update things
[18:31] <pangolin> Forbidden_404: you need flash for facebook if i'm not mistaken.
[18:31] <pangolin> !flash
[18:32] <Forbidden_404> I will try this, but I thought that I had
[18:32] <pangolin> Forbidden_404: as for gwibber not accepting your facebook credentials you need to allow it in facebook, as for MSN that is a problem that I don't know about.
[18:33] <Forbidden_404> when I put in the gwibber, opens a windows just to allow in facebook, but stay blank
[18:33] <Forbidden_404> just a blank windows
[18:33] <Forbidden_404> window*
[18:33] <pangolin> Forbidden_404: file a bug with launchpad
[18:34] <pangolin> !bugs
[18:34] <Forbidden_404> Twitter is the same thing, when I have to allow an app to access twitter, I press in the button to allow, then it starts to load... and never stop
[18:35] <Forbidden_404> I'll try, but I guess anyone cant help me, im trying since january, in any forums, but I'll give a chance, thank you, Pangolin
[18:35] <israel> llutz: F0EF82340F7 1204 Fri Feb 10 09:46:45 mgayoso@mundoterra.com
[18:35] <israel> (host mailin-03.mx.aol.com[205.188.156.193] refused to talk to me: 421 4.7.1 : (RLY:B3) http://postmaster.info.aol.com/errors/421rlyb3.html)
[18:35] <israel> billhinson@aol.com
[18:35] <holstein> Forbidden_404: how about my DNS server suggestion? is this on all machines on your network?
[18:35] <CharminTheMoose_> Can I compile/install a kernel and update initrd for use with a new kernel and then just move the /lib/modules/<version>, /boot kernel files and initrd to another machine and boot it?
[18:36] <pangolin> holstein: he is able to connect to the site, the issue is not being able to use the site
[18:36] <israel> llutz: F0EF82340F7 1204 Fri Feb 10 09:46:45 mgayoso@mundoterra.com
[18:36] <israel> (host mailin-03.mx.aol.com[205.188.156.193] refused to talk to me: 421 4.7.1 : (RLY:B3) http://postmaster.info.aol.com/errors/421rlyb3.html)
[18:36] <israel> billhinson@aol.com
[18:36] <pangolin> !paste > israel
[18:36] <module000> CharminTheMoose_: yes
[18:36] <llutz> israel: have you read the link given to you?
[18:36] <llutz> israel: http://postmaster.aol.com/Postmaster.Errors.php#421rlyb3
[18:37] <holstein> pangolin: not sure... i was reading "facebook not loading" ... im sure im reading it incorrectly
[18:38] <pangolin> holstein: you may be correct, the wording is not completely clear to me either
[18:38] <Forbidden_404> Holstein, I tried other dns
[18:38] <Forbidden_404> well, using the google one, make it better, but do not solved my problem
[18:38] <mjfork> has anyone used NX with 11.10? shoudl I stick with VNC? VNC seems sluggish from my windows workstation.
[18:38] <Forbidden_404> 8.8.8.8 and 8.8.4.4
[18:38] <holstein> Forbidden_404: better? how?
[18:39] <israel> llutz: im doing it
[18:39] <iceroot> mjfork: vnc and nx is something totally different
[18:39] <iceroot> mjfork: vnc will stream the desktop, nx will use a complete own session
[18:39] <mjfork> iceroot: i just need remote desktop to an ubuntu install
[18:39] <Forbidden_404> Before, the site dont connected
[18:39] <Forbidden_404> later, the site connected, but...
[18:39] <iceroot> mjfork: nx is much faster so if possible use nx
[18:39] <Forbidden_404> I cant use anyway
[18:39] <holstein> Forbidden_404: what about proxy settings?
[18:39] <mjfork> iceroot: thats what i thuoght, i see freenx doesn't appear to be updated.  shuold i try the ones from nomachine?
[18:40] <Forbidden_404> I dont use a proxy
[18:40] <iceroot> mjfork: they are non-free, if possible use freenx
[18:40] <holstein> Forbidden_404: i would try and remove variables and test... try just a browser.. try one app at a time.. use just the modem.. go to a different network... googles search about if your ISP blocks certain things
[18:41] <Forbidden_404> I'll try using just the modem
[18:41] <Forbidden_404> and different network later
[18:41] <Forbidden_404> I dont want to leave Ubuntu, but if I cannot solve these issues... ):
[18:42] <rumpe1> Forbidden_404, if you can't, I'm afraid you have to. :)
[18:42] <holstein> Forbidden_404: yeah.. and we'll all be sad that you leave, and are glad to help.. we need more details though...
[18:42] <ashutosh> ubuntu studio 11.10 sucks
[18:43] <ashutosh> unity didn't work after all
[18:43] <holstein> ashutosh: ? in what way? no themeing?.. feel free and help us via #ubuntustudio-devel
[18:43] <holstein> ashutosh: we do not ship with unity, though it should work just fine
[18:43] <ashutosh> yaaa
[18:43] <ashutosh> it didn;t came with unity
[18:44] <ashutosh> xfce was default
[18:44] <ashutosh> boot splash, login evrything is just damn bad
[18:44] <mjfork> iceroot: have you tried x2go?
[18:44] <holstein> ashutosh: correct.. whats the issue? you should be able to either sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop, or just install main ubuntu and install what you like from the ubuntustudio metapackages
[18:45] <Toctiz> why do i get that purple balnk screen after the grub menu
[18:45] <Alessandro_> bhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhyytfffffffffrrrreeextgg
[18:45] <holstein> ashutosh: its not configured at all yet to be exact.. we are working on 12.04 :)
[18:45] <ashutosh> the softs are good
[18:45] <holstein> ashutosh: we literally *just* changed to XFCE
[18:45] <Alessandro_> i'm sorry... wrong window
[18:45] <ashutosh> had to do a lot of repairs
[18:46] <holstein> ashutosh: you can help us at https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-studio-users and/or https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-studio-devel
[18:46] <ashutosh> including boot and login
[18:46] <smoothifier> hi :) ubuntu install freezes after detecting my usb keyboard and mouse, then it attempts to kill the modprobe-ing and enters into a loop.  the same thing happened trying to install mint 12
[18:46] <ashutosh> then it's fine
[18:46] <holstein> ashutosh: theming... not repair
[18:46] <ashutosh> isntalled gnome 3
[18:46] <ashutosh> no it was repair
[18:46] <holstein> it loaded and booted just fine... if you dont like the look and feel, thats "customization" not "repair"
[18:46] <ashutosh> boot splash was a white blurred
[18:46] <ashutosh> screen
[18:47] <holstein> ashutosh: we did not theme at all for 11.10... we are working on 12.04 and you can help if you like
[18:47] <ashutosh> which was damn ugly to see at each reboot
[18:47] <Toctiz> it dont change from purple
[18:47] <holstein> ashutosh: sure.. we *did* *not* theme at all
[18:47] <ashutosh> next login was a pink voilet
[18:47] <ashutosh> but it's fine
[18:48] <ashutosh> i'm working with using gnome 3 and am very happy
[18:48] <holstein> sure... you can always just install main ubuntu and add what you like... otherwise we need contructive critisicm and actual help right now ashutosh
[18:49] <ashutosh> well i'm sorry abt that
[18:49] <holstein> ashutosh: i make no excuses for the 11.10 release, but if you would like to help, we are in need of code contributing supporters
[18:49] <ashutosh> from 2 hours it was driving me nuts
[18:49] <smoothifier> i think i'm having problems with udevd during the install
[18:49] <smoothifier> but i'm not exactly sure what it going on
[18:50] <holstein> ashutosh: gnome2 was pulled, and we were unsure when that was going to happen.. we didnt have the time or team to implement a custom XFCE instance
[18:50] <ashutosh> that's alright
[18:50] <ashutosh> i'm a fan of ubuntu
[18:51] <ashutosh> and have just installed 12.04 on my notebook
[18:51] <ashutosh> ubuntu stud is on my desktop
[18:51] <oCean> ashutosh: Precise/12.04 is not yet released (still alpha). Please /join #ubuntu+1 for further support and discussion
[18:52] <ashutosh> and now it happened again
[18:52] <holstein> !details | ashutosh
[18:52] <meerkats> 3rd day in a row with no sound whatsoever, how do I delete all sound drivers and reinstall em all? nuke option seems the only realistic way outta my situation
[18:53] <ashutosh> even after a successful install it is stucked on boot
[18:53] <Jasonn> anyone set up an extra IP on an OVH server ?
[18:53] <ashutosh> system is topped
[18:53] <holstein> ashutosh: i would probably try different kernels and alsa revs as a troubleshooting step
[18:53] <ashutosh> *stopped
[18:53] <ashutosh> hey wait
[18:53] <oCean> ashutosh: the 12.04 system?
[18:53] <ashutosh> i see the light
[18:53] <ashutosh> oh that took too much time
[18:54] <ashutosh> yaa
[18:54] <ashutosh> 12.04
[18:54] <cfhowlett> !ubuntu+1|ashutosh
[18:54] <ashutosh> yaa
[18:54] <oCean> ashutosh: no support for that here (as I pointed out earlier)
[18:54] <ashutosh> pangolin is booted
[18:54] <holstein> meerkats: that was intended for you actually.. different alsa revs and kernels for audio... are you using pavucontrol ?ubuntu 11.10 ?
[18:54] <oCean> ashutosh: wrong channel
[18:55] <onryo> Im using Ubuntu in a VM on my Debian host as a sandbox. How do you hide the "weird" menu bar on the right side?
[18:55] <Toctiz> i get a blank purple screen after the grub menu that stays there
[18:55] <naman> hi
[18:55] <Toctiz> hi
[18:55] <ashutosh> so what !!!!! it worked
[18:55] <ashutosh> leaving
[18:56] <meerkats> holstein, ubuntu 11.10, as of now im desperate: too many how tos and everyone suggestiong different things
[18:56] <jaybutts> onryo: killall -9 unity
[18:56] <cfhowlett> naman: greetings
[18:56] <meerkats> pavucontrol, never heard of it, synaptic, holstein
[18:56] <Toctiz> how do i fix this?
[18:56] <onryo> yeah I don't want to kill the pid I just never want it to pop out unless I move the mouse there.
[18:56] <holstein> meerkats: i usually try live CD's in those cases and see if i can get something stable and make a note of the kernel and alsa versions
[18:56] <hizaoui> hiii every body
[18:56] <hizaoui> :)
[18:57] <_monk_> hi
[18:57] <onryo> omg ...
[18:57] <hizaoui> !!
[18:57] <holstein> meerkats: pavucontrol is in the repos
[18:57] <hizaoui> hahahahaha
[18:57] <cfhowlett> Toctiz: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1860135
[18:57] <Toctiz> thanks
[18:57] <hizaoui> so can i install an android skin for my ubuntu !???
[18:57] <jaybutts> onryo: you have to use compiz-config which needs to be installed, I forget the name exactly but its compiz settings or compiz confight, do apptitude search for compiz and you will see it
[18:58] <cfhowlett> hizaoui: http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2011/05/beautify-android-with-this-slick-ubuntu-unity-android-theme-pack/
[18:58] <hizaoui> heeeeeeeeey
[18:58] <meerkats> holstein, crap, I dont have a live cd, Ill have to buy a mem stick and download the -iso
[18:58] <hizaoui> hey
[18:58] <naman> any one know any good email security software some bastard keeps stealing my emails
[18:58] <hizaoui> plz how have an android skin pakag
[18:58] <holstein> meerkats: iso's.. i would try 10.04, the last LTS, and mabye even a 12.04 daily live... i usually try knoppix too.. i would just want to see some stable sound for a period of time, and make a note
[18:58] <oCean> hizaoui: cfhowlett just sent you a link
[18:59] <meerkats> yes holstein i have pulseaudio control, I cannot hear anything, the sound bars there are unmuted...
[18:59] <auronandace> !language | naman
[18:59] <rumpe1> naman, why do you think, they got stolen?
[18:59] <Toctiz> whats kubuntu?
[18:59] <hizaoui> !!
[18:59] <oCean> Toctiz: ubuntu with KDE desktop
[18:59] <cfhowlett> !kubuntu|toctiz
[18:59] <Viman> ubuntu+kde
[18:59] <hizaoui> oCean: bien
[18:59] <holstein> meerkats: you could try restarting alsa.. does it see that something "kills" the sound? a certain application? are you using JACK by chance?
[18:59] <naman> yeah before The email reaches my inbox they read the email then deleted it.
[19:00] <holstein> does it seem*
[19:00] <naman> So i'm trying to secure my emails some how
[19:00] <meerkats> can I make a live cd with a dvd-r?
[19:00] <rumpe1> naman, the inbox on the mail-server? are you the admin of the mail-server?
[19:00] <meerkats> 4.7 gb
[19:00] <naman> yahoo is
[19:00] <rumpe1> naman, maybe somehas has found your password. Change it.
[19:01] <holstein> meerkats: if you have a DVD reader that'll boot it, it'll work...
[19:01] <theadmin> meerkats: Yes sure, long as you burn the ISO properly
[19:01] <naman> I tried they still manage to delete the emails rumpe1
[19:01] <Viman> Anybody else got a problem like this in conky? "FATAL_ERROR: The server is not running!"
[19:01] <hizaoui> heeeeeeey
[19:01] <cfhowlett> !patience|hizaoui
[19:01] <meerkats> holstein, what if I go with 12.04?
[19:02] <yusufaliboz> hi
[19:02] <naman> Its all the time thats why I just turned to Linux from Windows. Looks like Windows easy to hack emails.
[19:02] <forbidden404> !flash
[19:02] <holstein> meerkats: i would want to see 10.04 personally.. 12.04 is still in 'testing', though it can be helpful when troubleshooting and you want the latest kernel to test with
[19:02] <Viman> naman: it all depends on the user, in the end..
[19:02] <rumpe1> naman, if they "steal" the mails on the mail-server, the only thing you can do is change the password. And it's not ubuntu related. And yes, ubuntu should be much more secure, but if someone has phyiscal access to your pc, you need further measurements.
[19:02] <meerkats> holstein, why 10.04? aint that quite outdated?
[19:02] <Viman> !conky
[19:03] <naman> ITs become very challenging to stop the intrusion and no anti software companies offer support.
[19:03] <holstein> meerkats: its the latest LTS.. long term support.. its still currently supported
[19:03] <cfhowlett> meerkats: 10.04 is LongTernSupport version.  Next LTS will be 12.04
[19:03] <LukeNukem_> Hello, im using winff to convert to mp3 and i get error unknown libmp3lame
[19:03] <IceD^> https://gist.github.com/1791788 - very nice
[19:03] <LukeNukem_> i thin i have to install lamemp3 library
[19:03] <naman> No its not that simple they more suffiscated than that. Most servers are linux based. So Linux is obvisouly the first choice now to try and resolve this issue.
[19:03] <LukeNukem_> how to do this
[19:04] <cfhowlett> LukeNukem_: #ffmpeg
[19:04] <meerkats> aaa...
[19:04] <King_Snake> Hey can anyone help me install .net frameworks into wine? im runnign 10.4 but its the first time ive tried setting up ubuntu
[19:04] <rumpe1> naman, are you really sure they are stolen or are they just moved to a spam folder? That happens sometimes.
[19:04] <King_Snake> i would be really grateful
[19:05] <Viman> LukeNukem: WinFF became buggy lately... try some command line action with ffmpeg
[19:05] <Viman> ffmpeg -i [input file.etc] [output file.ble]
[19:05] <meerkats> im downloading the -iso to my laptop, what programm do I need to burn it into a dvd-r?
[19:06] <ctdabomb> are there any programs for making precompiled binaries?
[19:06] <King_Snake> meerkats: Windows 7 has a defualt burner if youre using that
[19:06] <auronandace> !burn | meerkats
[19:06] <meerkats> King_Snake, on ubuntu
[19:06] <cfhowlett> meerkats: braser
[19:06] <papa> no one can beat k3b :D
[19:06] <King_Snake> k
[19:06] <cfhowlett> meerkats: brasero
[19:06] <naman> nope these are suffisticated bastards. They design these systems. And have been on my case for some time. Its not just software hardware too. I don't kow how the hell I'm going to get them off my back. Its definitely the software they got. They hack into it and then delete the email been doing so for over 8 years just a year ago i found out what they been upto and how they been getting away with it.
[19:07] <King_Snake> so can anyone help me with my wine .net issue? :D i tried using winetricks but its giving me an error idk how to fix
[19:07] <auronandace> naman: stop swearing
[19:07] <rumpe1> naman, maybe the government is after you :D
[19:07] <cfhowlett> !wine|king_snake
[19:07] <King_Snake> tyvm
[19:07] <naman> hacking a email password is 90s business to them *SORRY*
[19:08] <rumpe1> naman, but sounds a bit like the little fellow, that steals my socks when I sleep.
[19:08] <naman> Sorter like that nope.
[19:09] <naman> ministers of parliament should be enduring the same problem from these people.
[19:09] <rubst3r> hello all ubuntu users!
[19:09] <webroasters> hi guys. When I log into my ubuntu server as root, the terminal says something similar to this: root@myserver...:, but when I log in as a user, it just has $, nothing else. What's the deal?
[19:09] <cfhowlett> rubst3r: greetings
[19:09] <cfhowlett> webroasters: normal behavior
[19:09] <oCean> naman: chat is in #ubuntu-offtopic
[19:09] <jaybutts> you should always use ridiculously long and complex passwords for email cause so many companies I have work for just allow their email servers to be bruteforced cause sendmail can't block it without additional software like fail2ban or something
[19:09] <webroasters> can that change?
[19:10] <rubst3r> hello im new to ubuntu and i would like to know what apps are a MUST! ubuntu speaking?
[19:10] <oCean> rubst3r: maybe try #ubuntu-offtopic, this channel is for technical support issues
[19:10] <webroasters> thanks guys
[19:10] <cfhowlett> webroasters: you can customize the cli prompt but IDK the exact commands.  sorry
[19:10] <webroasters> oh ok. thanks
[19:10] <rubst3r> tyvm!
[19:12] <naman> I ca 't do nothing until I resolve how they been sabotaging my communication by reading the emails and deleting them before they get into my inbox. So they must have a software. Where is the best chat room to go to to talk with some professional linux programmers.
[19:12] <cfhowlett> naman: @linux
[19:12] <cfhowlett> naman: #linux
[19:12] <naman> how do i get their
[19:13] <cfhowlett> naman: /join #linux
[19:13] <naman> thank you been time i used irc
[19:14] <Viman> hello, anybody else get this problem when trying to load conky? FATAL_ERROR: The server is not running!
[19:15] <eldelantero> algun latino conectado??
[19:15] <israel> llutz: problem solved tks
[19:15] <cfhowlett> !es|eldelantero:
[19:15] <eldelantero> gracias ;)
[19:17] <meerkats> wasting more of my time: sudo dpkg-reconfigure alsa-source
[19:17] <meerkats> debconf: DbDriver "config": /var/cache/debconf/config.dat is locked by another process: Resource temporarily unavailable
[19:17] <meerkats> synaptic is off, no other terminals are open
[19:17] <kapz> Hi, can I change the default purple blank screen during boot up to a different colour in ubuntu 11.10?
[19:18] <dz0ny> @meerkats try pulseaudio -k
[19:18] <jaybutts> get an SSD then there is no loadscreen your desktop just appears lol
[19:20] <meerkats> dz0ny, no difference
[19:21] <WarDekar> hey I'm running 10.04LTS with command-line only and am having trouble figuring out how to connect to a PPTP server and route all network traffic through it, does anyone have any good links on how to set it up? there are so many on google and every one i've tried hasn't worked
[19:21] <cfhowlett> !server|wardekar
[19:21] <mongy> kapz, apt-cache search plymouth-theme
[19:22] <mongy> kapz, sudo apt-get install _your_theme_ then sudo update-alternatives --config default.plymouth and finally sudo update-initramfs -u
[19:22] <kapz> mongy: but I want to chane it completely, even the blank purple scrren before loading ubuntu
[19:22] <WarDekar> cfhowlett: everything i've seen there deals with GUI stuff
[19:23] <kapz> *loading ubuntu logo (animated logo)
[19:24] <mongy> kapz, you  mean grub?
[19:25] <bahodir> how can I get my git repo ssh key into an ubuntu EC2 instance so that I can pull and push from there?
[19:26] <cfhowlett> !git|bahodir
[19:26] <Resistance> bahodir, where did you originally create your git ssh keyks?
[19:26] <Resistance> keys*
[19:26] <kapz> mongy: No, the Purple screen that is loaded before the ubuntu logo shows up on THAT purple screen while booting(where one can press esc to toggle startup messages).
[19:26] <cfhowlett> !keys
[19:26] <bahodir> Resistance, on my local machine
[19:26] <mongy> kapz, yes, grub
[19:26] <Resistance> bahodir, open up Nautilus, set it to Show Hidden Files, go into .ssh/
[19:27] <Resistance> bahodir, copy the id_rsa and id_rsa.pub files from your machine up to your EC2 instance in your user folder for .ssh
[19:27] <Resistance> bahodir, or generate new keys, i've got 5 keys I use for git, one per machine
[19:28] <bahodir> Resistance, i'll probably generate new keys. But I didn't get the part where you said I should copy keys from nautilus to EC2
[19:28] <bahodir> how do I do that?
[19:28] <Resistance> bahodir, i'm unfamiliar with EC2 as a term, is that basically a cloud server type thingy?
[19:28]  * Resistance grabs his googlefu
[19:28] <mongy> kapz, I think you change some stuff in /etc/grub.d/05_debian_theme , but be careful.  when finished, sudo update-grub
[19:28] <kapz> mongy: oh! But it stays ther efor a long time(almost half the time)...and my pc has only ubuntu installed so I dont have to choose from grub menu
[19:28] <robertzaccour> how do I connect my laptop screen to my tv with an hdmi?
[19:28] <bahodir> Resistance, yes, amazon instance, to which I can ssh
[19:28] <bahodir> Resistance, can I use ssh to send files?
[19:28] <robertzaccour> I tried plugging it in but all it shows is the wallpaper and nothing else
[19:29] <kapz> mongy: is it still grub? Thanks
[19:29] <Resistance> bahodir, then sftp, with an ftp client or using Nautilus' "Connect ot Server" feature
[19:29] <Resistance> s/ot/to/
[19:29] <bahodir> Resistance, cool thanks
[19:29] <mongy> kapz, I have found that installing cryptsetup (for when I format partitions with encryption) has the side effect of making the ubuntu splash show from start to finish and not just the last 2 seconds.
[19:29] <Resistance> bahodir, for what its worth though you're better off generating a set of keys unique to that EC2 instance
[19:30] <bahodir> Resistance, that makes sense. thanks
[19:30] <kapz> o_0
[19:38] <imfede> hi guys. i have a little problem: i need to connect my laptop to my modem/router without a gui but it seems i'm not skilled enough to do that. can someone help me?
[19:39] <Raikia> is it wireless?
[19:39] <craigbass1976> I'm trying to fsck a drive, and getting "Device or resoruce busy... Filesystem Mounted or opened exclusively by another program?"  I'm running a livecd, and /dev/sda1 isn't mounted anywhere that I can see.
[19:39] <Viman> the network manager should do it, have you tried it?
[19:39] <craigbass1976> imfede, ifconfig
[19:39] <craigbass1976> imfede, any idea what the ip of the router is?
[19:40] <imfede> 192.168.2.1
[19:40] <craigbass1976> imfede, so try sudo ifconfig eth0 192.168.2.20
[19:40] <imfede> alredy tried (but with wlan0)
[19:40] <craigbass1976> imfede, as long as eth0 is your nic.  You might try just plain ifconfig first and see what's listed
[19:42] <Viman> yea, once my wireless card was configured as eth1 instead of wlan0
[19:42] <imfede> craigbass1976: in ifconfig i have eth1 lo wlan0 wlan0:avahi wmaster0-00
[19:42] <Steevca> Need help with forcing a 1152x864 ressolution in ubuntu 11.10.
[19:42] <imfede> but i'm pretty sure it's wlan0 since i can connect if i start the gui
[19:43] <craigbass1976> imfede, Ahh, wireless...  That's a little different.  Not sure exactly then.  Let me get my drive working and I'll give you a hand if no one else has.
[19:44] <meerkats> how do I know if my machine can support 64bit architecture?
[19:46] <eldelantero> hey, someone has used DraftSight??
[19:46] <imfede> craigbass1976: thank you
[19:47] <Viman> meerkats, I think you need to look up your processor. But pretty much anything after 2006 (Core2Duo release and later) supports 64bit
[19:47] <oCean> meerkats: do a  grep lm /proc/cpuinfo
[19:47] <northernen> I have perhaps a silly question. As I have gathered, xargs is used to pipe standard output to commands that don't accept standard input, such as echo and rm. How do I determine whether or not a command accepts standard input?
[19:47] <mayk> boa tarde
[19:47] <mayk> a tds
[19:47] <DWD> in the terminal try lshw
[19:47] <DWD> and look to the top of the output
[19:48] <Viman> boa tarde!
[19:48] <oCean> meerkats: if that command shows any output, your processor has 'long mode' meaning supports 64bit
[19:48] <mayk> pessoal estou com um problema no o ubuntu 10 e com minha placa de rede rtl 8187se alguem pode me ajudar?
[19:48] <oCean> !br | mayk
[19:49] <mbai> Hi. Is there a separate license for OEMing Ubuntu?...
[19:49] <meerkats> oCean, it shows output
[19:49] <oCean> meerkats: that there is "lm" in that output, meaning it's 64bit
[19:49] <meerkats> oCean, yes, there are 4 lm
[19:51] <patients> how to encrypt files by password
[19:51] <Mansomi> add firebro
[19:52] <cfhowlett> mbai: http://www.canonical.com/engineering-services/oem-services/oem-services
[19:52] <eldelantero> patients use Crypkeeper
[19:52] <kroq-gar78> patients: truecrypt works too
[19:54] <mbai> cfhowlett: thanks. would I have to adhere to OEM-ubuntu specific license, or the licenses of the software packages that come with ubuntu, GPL, MIT etc.
[19:54] <cfhowlett> mbai: I don't work for canonical.  Suggest you direct queries to them on the page I referred your to.
[19:54] <KristianDK__> How do I change my keys so that CTRL == Mac/win button?
[20:00] <yuusuke> a
[20:00] <theadmin> KristianDK__: xmodmap -e 'keysym Control_L = Super_L' # That's for the left side, for right replace L with R
[20:01] <KristianDK__> theadmin, thanks, ill try it right away
[20:01] <yuusuke> hallo?
[20:01] <uglyoldbob> hi im trying to change the appearance of my bottom panel
[20:02] <cfhowlett> uglyoldbob: right click, properties...
[20:02] <uglyoldbob> i want the active window to look "pushed away from me" and the inactive windows to look "pushed towards me"
[20:02] <KristianDK__> theadmin, seems to work! How do I make it work every time i boot?
[20:02] <uglyoldbob> i dont see an option to do that
[20:02] <theadmin> KristianDK__: Search for "Startup Applications" in the apps and add the command there
[20:03] <|Anthony|> what controls screen resolution in ubuntu server 10.04
[20:03] <cfhowlett> uglyoldbob: what version of ubuntu??
[20:03] <abys> Hi can somebody give me some info about the omginitialrefs service ?
[20:04] <meerkats> No apport report written because MaxReports is reached already
[20:04] <meerkats>                                                               debconf: DbDriver "config": /var/cache/debconf/config.dat is locked by another process: Resource temporarily unavailable
[20:04] <meerkats> can I force it?
[20:04] <FloodBot1> meerkats: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[20:04] <uglyoldbob> 10.04 lts
[20:04] <meerkats> the command is sudo apt-get install linux-sound-base alsa-base alsa-utils
[20:04] <KristianDK__> theadmin, oh, it was actually not the case, forgot I manually changed my keys in the terminal - it seems it didnt have any effect. the windows key still does nothing, e.g. WIN+c doesnt copy
[20:05] <cfhowlett> uglyoldbob: System>Preferences>Appearance>Themes>Customize>Window Border
[20:05] <theadmin> KristianDK__: Err... Win+C is not supposed to copy anything. Did you want to do the reverse, i.e. make Windows key act like Ctrl?
[20:05] <sidvee> HC died; cleaning up
[20:05] <KristianDK__> theadmin, basicly I want the mac keybindings in Ubuntu, or as close as I can get
[20:06] <KristianDK__> where CMD does most things like CTRL
[20:06] <theadmin> KristianDK__: No idea what those are, I don't use macs
[20:06] <KristianDK__> theadmin, what would be the winkey in a non mac keyboard is called "command", and it usually acts like CTRL on windows/linux
[20:06] <KristianDK__> I do realise i cannot get the exact same, but copy/paste are essential
[20:07] <rado84> Hi, all. I read on the net that here I could get some help with Totem player.
[20:07] <imfede> i need help with a wireless connection.... can someone help me please?
[20:07] <craigbass1976> So how do I make /dev/sda1 no busy when there's nothign I can see using it?  I need to fsck the partition, and am still getting the error i posted a bit ago
[20:08] <theadmin> KristianDK__: Well just invert the command then: xmodmap -e 'keysym Super_L = Ctrl_L' # It won't work now because they're already the same thing, so you have to log out/back in to reset it
[20:08] <cfhowlett> rado84: ask away
[20:08] <craigbass1976> Preferrably without having to burn a slackware iso...
[20:08] <rado84> Does anyone know how I can make Totem to add subtitle background?
[20:08] <dak0> Hey here is my problem i had Ubuntu 11.10 for a long time then i installed Windows  7 Dual boot
[20:08] <dak0> now i cant boot my Ubuntu
[20:08] <guntbert> craigbass1976: best do it with a live CD
[20:08] <KristianDK__> theadmin, would it be enough to reboot X to make it take effect?
[20:08] <cfhowlett> !grub|dak0
[20:09] <theadmin> KristianDK__: Well, yes.
[20:09] <cfhowlett> dak0: you need to reinstall grub.  Installing win7 wrote over your boot settings
[20:09] <dak0> Fucking windows
[20:09] <KristianDK__> theadmin, awesome, ill press my favorite command then, ctrl alt backspace
[20:09] <KristianDK__> thanks
[20:09] <dak0> Ubuntu dont do this if you install it on windows
[20:09] <Tm_T> dak0: language...
[20:10] <Lint> how to choose login language in 11.10?
[20:11] <craigbass1976> guntbert, I'm runngin a lucid cd, but am raedign that there might be some weird automounting of an ubuntu partition if there's one on the drive.
[20:12] <g105b> any way to resume from suspend to the login screen (pretty) rather than the gnome password dialogue (ugly)?
[20:13] <imbezol> g105b: you'd have to logout, then close the laptop lid
[20:13] <guntbert> craigbass1976: and     mount    doesn't show anything?
[20:13] <craigbass1976> imfede, hunt the net for iwconfig examples; that might be the ticket
[20:13] <meerkats> if I go along and install ubuntu 64bit, will any of the current aps I use be reusable, or will all of them have to be reinstalled?
[20:13] <craigbass1976> guntbert, not dev/sda anything
[20:14] <imbezol> g105b: or go to switch user, then close the lid
[20:14] <guntbert> meerkats: switching to 64bit from 32bit requires a complete reinstall
[20:14] <meerkats> guntbert, but all my data will be kept, wont it?
[20:14] <g105b> imbezol: I have set the closing the lid to "do nothing" - does it still suspend on the login screen?
[20:14] <meerkats> i mean, documents, movies, pictures
[20:14] <guntbert> craigbass1976: hmm ... please !pastebin the output of mount anyway
[20:14] <cfhowlett> meerkats: those aren't apps...
[20:14] <MonkeyDust> meerkats  if you have them on a separate partition
[20:15] <deadmund> How can I test my site works well in IE in linux?
[20:15] <guntbert> meerkats: only if you have them on a separate partition
[20:15] <imbezol> g105b: if it acts as requested i would assume it would do nothing but i'm not overly familiar with that stuff
[20:15] <imbezol> g105b: try it?
[20:15] <imfede> craigbass1976: it seems it's some kind of problem with the dhcp...
[20:15] <theadmin> deadmund: Google "ies4linux"
[20:16] <macmartine> Any ISPConfig users that can help with this? http://serverfault.com/questions/358889/stop-ispconfig-from-making-new-sites-require-a-login
[20:16] <deadmund> theadmin: thanks
[20:16] <MonkeyDust> deadmund  http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/ies4linux
[20:16] <CharlieSu> What is the best way to start a daemon process as another user?  I forgot what program to run to make it switch users..  (not sudo)
[20:17] <MonkeyDust> CharlieSu  su (switch user)
[20:17] <CharlieSu> MonkeyDust: I thought there was a better way..  I'm trying to run this as part of a runit job..  I thought there was a command that started with 'ch' that did id..  like a 'chexec' or something
[20:18] <dmouck> hey folks. Has anyone had any experience using Oneiric's gtk netboot?
[20:19] <theadmin> deadmund: Actually, just place thise on your page: <!--[if IE]><script>alert("You need to download a browser to view this website.") ; document.location.href='http://chrome.google.com ;<![endif]-->
[20:20] <deadmund> theadmin: :)
[20:20] <theadmin> deadmund: Err, needs the closing </script> though.
[20:20] <theadmin> deadmund: But you know what I mean :D
[20:21] <Jozi> i need help networking with xp sp 3 and ubuntu. Anyone?
[20:21] <deadmund> theadmin: :P
[20:21] <dragonfly> Jozi: what kind of networking are you trying to do?
[20:22] <Jozi> simple home net with lan
[20:22] <dmouck>  Has anyone had any experience using Oneiric's gtk netboot? I can get the text-based installer to work fine, but the gtk installer shows all squares instead of text
[20:22] <dragonfly> ok.... Jozi what are you trying to accomplish?
[20:23] <Jozi> link 4 computer to share files one runs on ubuntu the others on xp
[20:23] <dragonfly> and you want all of them to be able to host shared files?
[20:23] <dragonfly> and to access each of the others
[20:24] <theadmin> Jozi: samba
[20:24] <gsr> Hi all.  I've noticed recently that update manager, when it appears after loading gnome, doesn't require a sudo password to update packages.  Is this normal behavior for 11.10 (Gnome 3 Classic)?
[20:24] <Jozi> thats right. can you help
[20:24] <LoganShaw> hey everybody!
[20:25] <Jozi> Hi Logan
[20:25] <craigbass1976> guntbert, http://pastebin.com/rLCJZzDA
[20:26] <Jozi> please send me help to bnice@telkomsa.net
[20:26] <recon_lap> got a question, when i use open with on a file, there are loads of duplicate entry for each application, probably due to reinstalling and having my home on a different partition, anyway to clean it up easly
[20:26] <ptl1977> hi, anyone know of way to manipulate find to effectively do a du -hs on multiple subdirectories (a lot)
[20:26] <Steevca> Where can i find my .xprofile file ?
[20:26] <dmouck> no love for some netboot support? anyone?
[20:26] <MonkeyDust> Steevca  use locate
[20:26] <Jozi> Use locate Stteva
[20:28] <dragonfly> Jozi: are you able to share like you want between the windows pcs now?
[20:28] <craigbass1976> guntbert, and the hard drive keeps firing up, so SOMETHING is going on.
[20:28] <guntbert> craigbass1976: have a look into ~/.gvfs     is there anything listed?
[20:28] <trism> gsr: yes, see: http://askubuntu.com/questions/86773/update-manager-password
[20:28] <Jozi> yes. they just  dont pick the ubuntu up
[20:28] <craigbass1976> guntbert, where's ~/ ?  roots, the ubuntu live user?  /home/craig on the drive?
[20:29] <Jozi> and ubuntu pick them all up but unable to share
[20:29] <dragonfly> Jozi: google for samba and ubuntu
[20:29] <guntbert> craigbass1976: the live user, I'm talking about line 18
[20:29] <dragonfly> you need to set-up your samba share
[20:29] <Jozi> cool. will do that
[20:31] <gsr> trism: thanks!  but grrr, I guess I should have counted on Ubuntu putting easyness ahead of security..
[20:31] <craigbass1976>  ls -la | grep .gv shows this: d?????????  ? ?      ?         ?                ? .gvfs
[20:31] <imfede> need help with a wifi connection nogui....
[20:31] <Jozi> thanx for the help dragon. Im out
[20:31] <craigbass1976> guntbert, oops, that was as root.  If I fire up another terminal and ls -l it, I just get . and ..
[20:32] <dragonfly> craigbass1976: try ls -la
[20:32] <e-yns> hi #ubuntu
[20:32] <Companion> e-yns, sssst, ask your question else die in a fire :O
[20:34] <MonkeyDust> dragonfly  next time, better give a useful link instead of saying 'google it'
[20:35] <davidcafe> I just started using ubuntu and have installed the lexmark wireless app.  what is the trick to geting it to run and connnect to my printer
[20:35] <Companion> MonkeyDust, google is for kids try man pages instead :)
[20:35] <guntbert> craigbass1976: "as root"??
[20:35] <Companion> guntbert, never run a program as root
[20:35] <rt_> i have 32 rack servers of intelxeon dual processors 2.8ghz and 2gb ram, 32 gb hard disk with 1 gig eth port and 100Mb eth port suggest me some good method to create a cloud
[20:35] <dragonfly> MonkeyDust: I didn't have a useful link handy and was just trying to help point him in the right direction
[20:35] <guntbert> Companion: I beg your pardon?
[20:35] <Companion> rt_, lots of knowledge of networking and setup
[20:36] <Companion> guntbert, never run a program as root :P
[20:36] <rt_> companion ?
[20:36] <Companion> rt_, seting up a cloud requires monht's and month's of reading and seting it up
[20:36] <dragonfly> Companion: never say never :)
[20:36] <guntbert> Companion: what are you talking about?
[20:36] <Companion> dragonfly, beside pacman -Syu
[20:36] <Companion> guntbert, just as I say
[20:37] <guntbert> !ot | Companion
[20:37] <guntbert> Companion: stop disrupting support
[20:37] <rt_> i have already created cloud using eucalyptus
[20:37] <Companion> guntbert, I am still on topic tho
[20:37] <rtc> hi, I did a system upgrade from a CD... but now a lot of files from /etc etc. are gone... how do I get them back?
[20:37] <OerHeks> !cloud | rt_
[20:37] <Companion> but I can be disturbing tho ;d
[20:37] <rt_> but some how it didnt worked with my hardware
[20:37] <davidcafe> guess there is noone on that knows about the lexmark setup?
[20:37] <guntbert> Companion: you are not, you are disrupting my support talk, stop
[20:38] <Steevca> How can i make a xorg.conf file?
[20:38] <Companion> guntbert, still I was OT :)
[20:38] <Companion> guntbert, but alright
[20:38] <regeya> can anyone recommend a desktop recorder?  I've tried using recordmydesktop but the audio and video are horribly, yet hilariously, out of sync.  I've watched a few youtube videos where people have default desktops, and hilariously enough, just use the default settings and it works.
[20:38] <MonkeyDust> regeya  byzanz
[20:38] <craigbass1976> guntbert, yes root.  On the livecd, I did sudo passwd, set a root password, and don't have to keep typing sudo.  Is that what you meant?
[20:39] <davidcafe> bye
[20:39] <guntbert> craigbass1976: we do not support using the root account, not even on the live CD - don't be too lazy for 5 keys :)
[20:39] <rt_> it was saying when i was about to generate an instance of virtual machine it said ur cpu doesnot support KVM
[20:39] <rt_> is it true?
[20:39] <zykotic10> Steevca: (general hints only) 1) stop Xorg 2) run "X -configure" (possibly requiring sudo), notice where it places the generated xorg.conf 3) copy/rename the xorg from step2 to /etc/X11/xorg.conf 4) restart XOrg to test
[20:39] <OerHeks> rt_, depends on your hardware, yes, could be
[20:39] <rt_> what kind of CPU do i really require to run the cloud softwares
[20:40] <rtc> hi, I did a system upgrade from a CD... but now a lot of files from /etc, /var are gone... how do I get them back?
[20:40] <regeya> erm.  a search shows nothing for byzanz.
[20:41] <zykotic10> Steevca: oh ya, if you happen to be using nvidia propritary driver, it's just "sudo nvidia-xconfig"
[20:41] <john_doe_jr> is there a way to get previous version of chromium on ubuntu?
[20:41] <Steevca> zykotic10:  Nope,it's ATI. :S And i am on open drivers.
[20:41] <rt_> what kind of cpus support kvms in ubuntu oerheks
[20:41] <craigbass1976> guntbert, ok.  Then what do you suppose is going on with the drive?
[20:42] <OerHeks> rt_, i don't know, better ask in ##hardware
[20:42] <rt_> oerjeks thanks
[20:42] <rt_> join #hardware
[20:43] <guntbert> craigbass1976: I suppose it has been automounted, thats why I asked for the listing of .gvfs,   have a look in nautilus/places if you see the "eject symbol" anywhere
[20:43] <rt_> oerheks should try installing vmware vsphere
[20:44] <smoothifier> hi :) i'm getting a crash during install.  is there some way i can capture the output?  i'm getting the same crash on fedora, ubuntu and mint.
[20:44] <smoothifier> udevd: /sbin/modprobe -bv gets killed signal 9
[20:45] <clouder`grr> in sshd_config can you do a negative Match ie. Match Groups !admin or ^admin ?
[20:45] <rtc> hi, I did a system upgrade from a CD... but now a lot of files from /etc, /var are gone... how do I get them back?
[20:45] <cato_> smoothifier, try to install in graphic safe mode. I have had that problem to when I install on laptops with nvidia optimus
[20:46] <cato_> exit
[20:46] <smoothifier> is that an option on the menu?  i'll check it out, thanks :)
[20:46] <craigbass1976> guntbert, no, but I see the 310gb drivek.  Clicking on it (I just did it and didn't mean to) is oging to eventually give me a "can't mount..." error.
[20:47] <clouder`grr> nm, I found it, just wasn't using the right terms in google search
[20:47] <guntbert> craigbass1976: at the moment I can only suggest you reboot the live CD and don't enable root - the issue *might* be fixed/fixable then
[20:48] <LoganShaw> is this a tech support channel for ubuntu?
[20:49] <cfhowlett> LoganShaw: yes staffed by volunteers.
[20:50] <john_doe_jr> What does the repository 'universe' mean?
[20:51] <cfhowlett> john_doe_jr: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Ubuntu
[20:52] <rtc> Help! I did a system upgrade from a CD... but now a lot of files from /etc, /var are gone... how do I get them back?
[20:52] <rtc> Where does the installer put the backup copies?
[20:52] <sidb> hello there..
[20:52] <sidb> I wanna know is there a way to edit this xml file /usr/share/backgrounds/contest/background-1.xml easily using any software
[20:53] <sidb> As this is the file from rhich i can make a periodically changing desktop backgrounds
[20:53] <smoothifier> damn, cato_ took off before I could thank him.  i was stuck for a couple of hours trying to get the installation to work.  all i needed was to run in basic graphics mode :) feeling dumb
[20:55] <nanobolic> sidb, there is a program called wallch in the ubuntu software centre that will change your wallpaper automatically
[20:55] <nanobolic> you just need to give it a folder with pictures
[20:55] <sidb> But there is problem with that thing
[20:55] <sidb> it is a software
[20:55] <sidb> and i need to have it on
[20:55] <sidb> like forever
[20:56] <sidb> it is not at all a fine replacement for this simple old file
[20:56] <sidb> i was able to modify the file manually...
[20:56] <cfhowlett> sidb: see "desktop drapes"
[20:56] <sidb> but what i seek here is something that does the task for me
[20:57] <sidb> cfhowlett: lemme check
[20:57] <guntbert> !enter | sidb
[20:57] <cfhowlett> sidb: desktop-drapes
[20:58] <sidb> sorry about that... my fault... new to irc..:D
[20:59] <jen_> does anyone know how to  set the back button on firefox so its away from the taskbar?
[20:59] <Steevca> How to auto identify with pidgin? Or do you recomend some other irc client?
[20:59] <Ashii_> how do i know the Djeavu Sans Mono and its not DejavuSansMono when setting in xft:*:*:*:*:*:*
[21:00] <Lint> how to choose login language in 11.10?
[21:01] <BillyJoe> Is it possible to run a very small mono (.net) console application without installing the entire mono framework, but just a subset of it?
[21:02] <albawi> hi there , how can i run .ts format files ?
[21:02] <zykotic10> Ashii_: you could try using xfontsel to get the proper -*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-* line perhaps
[21:02] <Ashii_> zykotic10: atm im trying alot of fonts, and they never seem to appear with that tool
[21:03] <zykotic10> Ashii_: there is some font upgrade cache procedure are you running that?  sorry i don't know it off the top of my head.
[21:03] <Ashii_> its a ttf font
[21:03] <Ashii_> not sure if it matters
[21:04] <zykotic10> Ashii_: ya, i doubt it does.  well, good luck.
[21:04] <Ashii_> ty
[21:04] <cfhowlett> sidb: desktop-drapes work for you?
[21:05] <albawi> hi there , how can i run .ts video format files , i used TLC but it seems not working
[21:05] <john_doe_jr> Does anyone know if there is a way to add repositories to my synaptic manager so that I can be able to download older versions of Google Chrome or Chromium?
[21:07] <dragonfly> john_doe_jr: why do you want the older versions?
[21:07] <john_doe_jr> dragon I'm working on a project
[21:08] <Ashii_> how do i refresh xfontsel? opcion is finding my font, but not xfontsel
[21:09] <genii-around> Ashii_: Have you tried xset fp rehash ?
[21:10] <Ashii_> genii-around: i dont think it worked
[21:11] <OerHeks> john_doe_jr, can't find any old-version ppa, chromium 16 is current.
[21:12] <zykotic10> Ashii_: perhaps "fc-cache -fv"
[21:12] <john_doe_jr> OerHeks: is that possible to
[21:13] <genii-around> Ashii_: Did you put the font in somedirectory like /home/your-username/.fonts   ?
[21:13] <Ashii_> genii-around: its properly installed, but i will mess with it more when i get time to restart x
[21:13] <sidb> cfhowlett: i guess i will have to wait as there is some problem here with my network card. But will tell you if it worked for me or not..:)
[21:13] <Ashii_> zykotic10: ty ill mess with it more when i got time to restart x to confirm if something else is wrong
[21:13] <OerHeks> john_doe_jr, possible what?
[21:13] <Lint> do x="something" and x[1:3] share the character buffer?
[21:13] <john_doe_jr> OerHeks: is it possible to download older versions of google Chrome or Chromium?
[21:14] <john_doe_jr> for Ubuntu
[21:14] <OerHeks> john_doe_jr, no.
[21:14] <Lint> how to choose login language in 11.10?
[21:15] <jhally> ciao
[21:15] <jhally> !list
[21:23] <Guest22654> Hi, could someone talk me through getting Jack working??
[21:23] <jhally> ciao
[21:23] <jhally> !list
[21:24] <cfhowlett> Guest22654: bring it over to #ubuntustudio
[21:27] <Guest22654> cfhowlett, well I'm not actually using ubuntu studio
[21:27] <Guest22654> I'm using normal Ubuntu
[21:33] <sioux> hi all
[21:33] <graft> yo
[21:34] <miha_> hey))
[21:34] <miha_> where r u from?
[21:35] <mehlo> hey
[21:39] <mehlo> kermit griffin?
[21:39] <ztag100> Hello
[21:44] <john_doe_jr> I'd like to install the binaries that were produced from a build of Google Chromium (previous version)...I think the build is archived @ launchpad due to the following page: https://launchpad.net/~chromium-daily/+archive/dev/+build/2677755 ...does anyone know how I can get those builds of chromium ?
[21:48] <s9iper1> see
[21:52] <wereHamster> if I edit an upstart job, will init automatically pick up the changes or do I need to manually run start/stop myself?
[21:52] <urlin2u> john_doe_jr, 3rd party out of the channel support but here you go. http://commondatastorage.googleapis.com/chromium-browser-snapshots/index.html
[21:52] <Sagamity> hi
[21:52] <Sagamity> any hacker here ?
[21:52] <Sagamity> I need something so bad .
[21:53] <Sagamity> any hacker should contact me please
[21:53] <urlin2u> Sagamity, off topic this is ubuntu support
[21:53] <Sagamity> where can i get hacker please @ urlin2u
[21:53] <urlin2u> Sagamity, not here.
[21:53] <Bril> get a hacker lulz
[21:53] <Sagamity> whats ubuntu?
[21:54] <ardrone> hi
[21:54] <ardrone> i hava quick question
[21:54] <Sagamity> what ?
[21:54] <ardrone> i just unboxed my brand new laptop with 1tb harddisk and 8 iSSD
[21:54] <ardrone> what do you suggest for partitions? for fast boot
[21:55] <ardrone> 8 gb iSSD is on it
[21:56] <urlin2u> ardrone, have you installed ubuntu?
[21:56] <ardrone> no i just burned my cd
[21:56] <ardrone> i am gonna install it urlin2u
[21:57] <ardrone> i need some suggest for partitioning cause i only got 8 gb iSSD
[21:57] <ardrone> is it ok if i separe /usr and /home on hdd and rest on iSSD
[21:58] <urlin2u> ardrone, this channel in general is not for 20 questions but specific support questions go to the ubuntu forums and look at the web if you can.
[21:58] <urlin2u> ardrone, as well try #ubuntu-beginners
[21:59] <urlin2u> ardrone, it is not that I don't want to help but these are such basic questions that the info is widely available on the web
[22:00] <ardrone> i am not begginer urlin2u
[22:00] <ardrone> i just need suggestions not how to's
[22:00] <ardrone> i have 8 gb SSD and if you were me what would you do?
[22:00] <urlin2u> ardrone, I believe you but questions like that are very basic.
[22:00] <genii-around> ardrone: I'd use it for /boot and swap
[22:01] <ardrone> genii-around that is what need :)
[22:01] <Star_Light> how can create sites/default/files file?
[22:01] <Star_Light> does anyone know ?
[22:02] <b0ot> If I have my linux box with two connection a: eth b:usb(doing ethernet) and I bridge the two connections could a computer on the same subnet as the bridged connection connected to the linux box via usb be able to ping a host on the end of the ethernet connection?
[22:02] <urlin2u> genii-around, a boot partition is not needed if thats what you mean
[22:03] <genii-around> urlin2u: The idea would be to use the speed of it for fast initial boot, swap, perhaps temp files
[22:04] <urlin2u> genii-around, way more complex then it needs to be, and your opinion.
[22:05] <hder> i am playing with btrfs and it appears to be missing btrfs-scrub.  it sounds like it should exist in v0.19.  any ideas why it is missing in the repos and how to get it?
[22:05] <pooltable> help useing xfce how do i remove the weather thing at the top thanks?
[22:06] <urlin2u> pooltable, turn it off in startup applications probably to start with and or remove the app.
[22:08] <BillyJoe> Where can I find a list of what mono version is pre-installed on the different ubuntu versions? I would like a list of pre-installed mono versions, not a list about versions available in the repositories.
[22:09] <tony_> I got a weird problem with my lubuntu installation. When I turn on my laptop(dell inspirion 1100)  and it  boots the screen appears all distorted. Yet, when I bring up the grub menu and select the first boot option the screen appears just fine. Am just wondering why
[22:09] <pooltable> urlin2u thansk
[22:10] <urlin2u> BillyJoe, I see very little on the web about this may be hard to get a straight answer, just saying.
[22:11] <urlin2u> quickly that us
[22:18] <rtc> I did a system upgrade from a CD... but now a lot of files from /etc, /var are gone... where does the installer store the backup copyies?
[22:20] <jschall> how do i disable a service? update-rc.d doesn't seem to do it. trying to keep ssh, apache and mysql from starting on startup
[22:20] <vlyalcin> hii, where ubuntu  gets user pictures informations in user manager? how decides for which users have which picture?
[22:20] <zykotic10> BillyJoe: what is the main mono package name?  For this example I use mono-runtime, you could use the bot to find what version came in each release "!info mono-runtime lucid" shows the version in Lucid, just change the version to the ones you are interested in.  PS. not in the channel ;)
[22:21] <urlin2u> tony_, you have the correct graphic drivers installed?
[22:22] <zykotic10> BillyJoe: PPS mono suck ;)
[22:22] <urlin2u> zykotic10, no soup for you. :)
[22:23] <MrKeuner> hello, how to mount a usb disk from terminal?
[22:23] <zykotic10> MrKeuner: example "sudo mount /dev/sdc1 /mnt"
[22:25] <urlin2u> tony_, have you been able to get to the desktop since installing?
[22:25] <benhelps> Any all. Anyone know much about getting wifi working on a cli only Ubuntu?
[22:26] <benhelps> *hey all
[22:26] <zykotic10> benhelps: i actually use wicd-curses on my eee (note network-manager requires either gdm/kdm to connect wirelessly even using the cli versions)
[22:27] <BillyJoe> zykotic10, thanks! Ubottu sais "...In component main, is optional. Version 2.10.5-1 (oneiric) ...". How do I see if it is installed or just available in the repo?
[22:28] <acicula> ps ufax
[22:28] <zykotic10> BillyJoe: "apt-cache policy foo" replace foo with package name
[22:28] <benhelps> Zykotic10:ok will try installing
[22:28] <cfhowlett> benhelps: details plz
[22:29] <urlin2u> !pm |.I don't do PM's tony_
[22:29] <zykotic10> benhelps: that's just for wireless management BTW.  Hardware / drivers is a separate issue.
[22:29] <benhelps> Cfhowlett: Inspiron 1501, atheros wifi, ubuntu server 10.04 from memory, no X
[22:29] <benhelps> Lspci lshw etc don't list the wifi hw at mo
[22:29] <tony_> the only way i can get a desktop is by pulling up the grub menu and selecting the first option it boots up to a normal login screen yet if i let it boot by itself the login screen is all distorted
[22:30] <BillyJoe> zykotic10 ok, I guess the bot doesn't know? I would need to install the ubuntu versions to find out?
[22:30] <Afdal> I need some serious help
[22:30] <zykotic10> BillyJoe: oh sorry, i was giving you command line instructions.
[22:30] <cfhowlett> !ask|Afdal:
[22:30] <zykotic10> BillyJoe: if it says option, it's not installed by default
[22:30] <Afdal> I managed to get grub installed on my RAID0 dual drives
[22:31] <Afdal> But it won't actually load Xubuntu
[22:31] <urlin2u> tony_, you perchance install a bootmanager, is the one you choose at the top of the grub menu?
[22:31] <Afdal> It just loads this BusyBox built-in shel
[22:31] <BillyJoe> zykotic10 Okay I see, thanks for helping
[22:31] <Afdal> Furthermore, now I can't access my Windows XP boot and all my important files
[22:31] <Afdal> What do I do?
[22:32] <cfhowlett> benhelps: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/Atheros
[22:32] <rymate1234> hello
[22:32] <rymate1234> I have a small issue
[22:32] <rymate1234> I was wondering if anyone could help?
[22:32] <benhelps> Cfhowlett:thanks will check, tho juggling kids at mo
[22:33] <cfhowlett> !ask|rymate1234:
[22:33] <rymate1234> In my tty, you can use ctrl + left to switch tty
[22:33] <tony_> urlin2u, no the main boot loader is grub, its a fresh install no other operating systems.
[22:33] <rymate1234> and ctrl + right
[22:33] <rymate1234> is there anyway to turn this off?
[22:33] <marcello> italiano?
[22:34] <rymate1234> :)
[22:34] <cfhowlett> it|marcello:
[22:34] <cfhowlett> it|marcello:
[22:34] <rymate1234> cfhowlett: he left
[22:34] <cfhowlett> !it|marcello
[22:34] <rymate1234> :P
[22:34] <Steevca> When i try to visit facebook,chrome crashes.What can be the problem?
[22:35] <cfhowlett> :)
[22:35] <dannel> divine intervention?
[22:35] <urlin2u> tony_, strange behavior makes no sense really, I don't think I wil be much help here.
[22:35] <urlin2u> will
[22:35] <zykotic10> rymate1234: background question - is it really CTRL+left/right, or ALT+left/right?  Are we talking VirtualTerminals (ctrl+alt+f1->f6) here?
[22:36] <rymate1234> ye its alt
[22:36] <rymate1234> aorry for any confusion
[22:36] <rymate1234> talking about th ttys
[22:36] <rymate1234> so yea ctrl+alt+f1->f6
[22:36] <rymate1234> zykotic10: ^
[22:37] <rymate1234> brb
[22:38] <Afdal> Why can't GRUB into hardware RAID?
[22:38] <Afdal> What's so damn complicated about it?
[22:40] <Canadian1296> What's the lightest desktop environment to install on a cli Ubuntu 11.10 alternate insall? I don't want all the associated GUI programs (firefox, etc), just the desktop.
[22:41] <zykotic10> Canadian1296: do you need a DE?  ANY of the windows managers would be much lighter.  Good luck.
[22:41] <zykotic10> Canadian1296: lxde is lightest DE i'm aware of
[22:41] <Canadian1296> zykotic10: A DE? Sorry I'm fairly new at linux.
[22:42] <zykotic10> Canadian1296: DE Desktop Environment
[22:43] <scienceNinjaEarl> touching my pad or moving my mouse on my laptop makes X server crash and moves me back to the log in screen everytime
[22:43] <Ahoalton> its telling me I need to enable restricted drivers
[22:43] <Ahoalton> how do I do it
[22:43] <DinoMuffin> scienceNinjaEarl: can you post your Xorg log?
[22:44] <scienceNinjaEarl> sure but where? not in the here right?
[22:44] <Canadian1296> zykotic10: Okay, basically I want something similar to just installing ubuntu desktop, but without all the extra programs, and as lightweight as possible.
[22:44] <DinoMuffin> no, pastebin
[22:44] <CharminTheMoose_> How can I compile the kernel and rename it during the compile, i.e so it changes from vmlinuz-version to Sandbox-version?
[22:44] <urlin2u> Ahoalton, pastebin the process leading to that.
[22:44] <DinoMuffin> otherwise the floodbots will get you
[22:44] <zykotic10> rymate1234: i gave up looking for a method to disable alt+arrow (config of VTs seem very limited).  Best of luck.
[22:44] <Canadian1296> Visual appeal doesn't matter.
[22:44] <cfhowlett> !mini|Canadian1296
[22:44] <Ahoalton> new install urlin2u
[22:44] <Ahoalton> nothing to pastebin
[22:44] <scienceNinjaEarl> k one sec
[22:45] <urlin2u> Ahoalton, okay what is telling yhou you need restricted drivers do you see where I'm going here.
[22:45] <Ahoalton> it popped up in the upper right hand
[22:45] <BillyJoe> zykotic10, by the way, why do you think mono sucks?
[22:45] <Ahoalton> and said to in crease efficiency I need to enable them urlin2u
[22:46] <zykotic10> Canadian1296: choose whichever DE you want to use and install it's package directly, avoid the big meta packages *-desktop (ubuntu-desktop, kubuntu-desktop, lubuntu-desktop, etc)
[22:46] <Canadian1296> cfhowlett: I already have Ubuntu installed from the alternate cd (i chose command line only before installing). I just need to know what packages i should install to get a lightweight gui (desktop)
[22:46] <Ahoalton> fresh install
[22:46] <zykotic10> BillyJoe: it's OT, and i don't want to discuss it.
[22:46] <urlin2u> Ahoalton, nothing going on like trying to play a media...etc, and have you done a update/upgrade yet?
[22:46] <cfhowlett> Canadian1296: lxde
[22:46] <pegler> hi all.  I have a box that keeps becoming unresponsive via ssh, but it appears it is still running while unresponsive because there are logs for the entire time it is "down"
[22:46] <BillyJoe> zykotic10, ok
[22:46] <Canadian1296> zykotic chhowlett: Okay I'll install lxde. Thanks for your help :)
[22:47] <urlin2u> Ahoalton, this ubuntu?
[22:47] <Ahoalton> doing update now maybe that will fix it
[22:47] <zykotic10> !tab > Canadian1296
[22:47] <Ahoalton> yeah  11.10
[22:47] <DinoMuffin> pegler: does it happen while you're using it, or after you've left it alone for a while?
[22:47] <urlin2u> Ahoalton, cool hopefully tat will do it. :)
[22:47] <urlin2u> that*
[22:47] <Ahoalton> I hope so
[22:47] <Canadian1296> zykotic10: Thanks :)
[22:47] <pegler> DinoMuffin: it's setup as a server, so it's possible it's after a while where no one has logged in
[22:48] <DinoMuffin> pegler: ssh likes to timeout connections that idle for too long
[22:48] <DinoMuffin> so you'll end up with a broken pipe
[22:48] <DinoMuffin> if you ssh back into the box, does it continue to work?
[22:48] <pegler> DinoMuffin: nope, I am unable to ping or SSH in.
[22:49] <DinoMuffin> pegler: oh, so it just dies all together
[22:49] <pegler> yea
[22:49] <scienceNinjaEarl> my x.0.log http://pastebin.com/t2YxJVui
[22:49] <hayer> how can I give www-data to use the command line function "hddtemp /dev/sd*"?
[22:49] <DinoMuffin> pegler: any messages in your dmesg or syslog?
[22:49] <DinoMuffin> from the server?
[22:50] <pegler> DinoMuffin: so that's why I'm here.  I don't see anything too unusual in the logs, but I don't have too much experience, so I don't know what I'm looking for.
[22:50] <DinoMuffin> you're using ubuntu server, correct?
[22:50] <pegler> I can post those logs if you have a minute to look at them
[22:50] <zykotic10> pegler: if your using terminal applications across ssh, check out screen ( aka gnuscreen) - it will keep things going after logout/disconnects - it's got TONS of other features as well.
[22:51] <zykotic10> pegler: oh sorry, never mind me.  differnt issue
[22:51] <DinoMuffin> zykotic10: his server's NIC or ip stack is going dead
[22:51] <zykotic10> DinoMuffin: ya - my bad
[22:51] <pegler> DinoMuffin: 10.04 server
[22:51] <Canadian1296> Another question. Ubuntu 11.10 installed (from alternate cd, cli only) in Virtualbox. I start the machine and see the Ubuntu …. Loading sequence, but then it says "mountall: Disconnected from Plymouth" I can switch to tty2 (with control alt f2) and log in, but why is it doing that?
[22:52] <DinoMuffin> pegler: what do you normally do to get it working again?
[22:52] <urlin2u> !pm > I don't do PM's JiggyBlkMn,
[22:52] <Ahoalton> urlin2u its the graphics drivers I found
[22:52] <DinoMuffin> urlin2u: he's a spammer
[22:52] <Ahoalton> but it won't let me activate them, gives me an error
[22:52] <pegler> DinoMuffin: cycle the power
[22:53] <urlin2u> !pm | I don't do Pm's JiggyBlkMn
[22:53] <meerkats> has any of you bought this HDD? http://www.reevoo.com/p/samung-hx-mtd10ea-g22-1tb Im worried about the lack of linux compatibility, is that an issue at all?
[22:53] <smoothifier> how do you get to a low graphics install of ubuntu?  do i need to run the alternate installation cd?
[22:53] <DinoMuffin> pegler: ok, yeah if you could post your last dmesg for the server tha'd probably help
[22:53] <acicula> smoothifier: the alternate installer ist textbased
[22:53] <smoothifier> but otherwise the same?
[22:53] <pegler> DinoMuffin: ok, will do.  one second.
[22:53] <urlin2u> JiggyBlkMn, nor do I read them when sent.
[22:54] <acicula> smoothifier: yup
[22:54] <Canadian1296> smoothifier: you can use the alternate cd, but before hitting Install, press F4 and choose the command line only option. Then install
[22:54] <smoothifier> excellent, thanks acicula and Canadian1296
[22:54] <urlin2u> DinoMuffin, cool with url exposed time for a DOS JiggyBlkMn
[22:55] <Canadian1296> smoothifier: No problem :)
[22:55] <pegler> DinoMuffin: http://pastebin.com/FHGTiLSD - should be the last 4 dmesg logs
[22:56] <Canadian1296> Any ideas for the "mountall: Disconnected from Plymouth" issue I'm having?
[22:56] <smoothifier> ok will get on that after dinner.  time for a sandwich.
[22:56] <urlin2u> DinoMuffin, I didn't read mine if you still have your send it to #ubuntu-ops
[22:56] <urlin2u> yours*
[22:56] <rymate1234> back
[22:56] <rymate1234> anyone answer my issue? :)
[22:57] <DinoMuffin> urlin2u: i closed it as soon as i got it :/
[22:57] <DinoMuffin> it had some racist remarks in it
[22:57] <DinoMuffin> stopped reading after that
[22:57] <urlin2u> DinoMuffin, with a nic like that I suspected so.
[22:58] <Guest92817> Hey
[22:58] <meerkats> has any of you bought this HDD? http://www.reevoo.com/p/samung-hx-why cant I join @@linux?mtd10ea-g22-1tb Im worried about the lack of linux compatibility, is that an issue at all?
[22:58] <meerkats> crap
[22:58] <Lint> how to choose the login language in 11.10?
[22:58] <FloodBot1> meerkats: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[22:58] <meerkats> why cant I join ##linux?
[22:59] <cfhowlett> meerkats: ask them...
[22:59] <Guest92817> I am here, pulling out my hair. Has anyone successfully setup software raid when installing ubuntu?
[22:59] <urlin2u> meerkats, you have to be a freenode member
[22:59] <randomnewb> meerkats: see http://linuxassist.net/irc
[23:00] <urlin2u> meerkats, registerd at least is what I meant.
[23:00] <DinoMuffin> pegler: well, i'm not seeing anything unusual
[23:00] <Guest92817> I tried to install software raid when install ubuntu but then the GRUB install failed
[23:01] <scienceNinjaBob> My mouse and touchpad made x server crash here's a direct to the log file http://pastebin.com/t2YxJVui
[23:01] <DinoMuffin> except
[23:01] <DinoMuffin> pegler: is the box responsive at all? or are you just hard resetting?
[23:01] <pegler> DinoMuffin: I only try ssh and ping, nothing local.
[23:02] <gogeta> pegler: ctrl alt f1 should drop you to bash if x is simply crashed
[23:02] <Harold> hi eeverybody! My  Asus EEE-PC shows the message: "(initramfs)". What am I supposed to do?
[23:03] <gogeta> Harold: do what?
[23:03] <Wargasm> I love my Asus EEE-PC
[23:03] <zaksoldier> Hi
[23:03] <pegler> DinoMuffin: in my syslog there are entries for the entire time it is down, so what yo said before about it being a network issue is what I suspect.
[23:03] <zaksoldier> !u
[23:03] <Harold> i want to make it work again so what am i gonna do to make it happen?
[23:03] <i42n> Harold: What does not work?
[23:03] <gogeta> Harold: i do not understand the problem
[23:03] <pegler> gogeta: it's a remote box, and is becoming unresponsive via ssh.
[23:04] <DinoMuffin> pegler: it seems like it to me, like your NIC or IP stack is unstable
[23:04] <Harold> when i boot there are a couple of messages and then i'm in a console where theres initramfs at the left bottom
[23:04] <trasier> hi!
[23:05] <gogeta> Harold: initramfs is saying its loading the kernel into ram is it sticking there?
[23:05] <pegler> so there's a possibility that someone else is using the static IP assigned to the box from time to time.  I can't track down who it is, but sometimes the box responds to pings, but not ssh, making me think it's not my box.
[23:05] <DinoMuffin> pegler: normally, there would be log entries about losing the signal
[23:05] <pegler> that only happened once though
[23:06] <Harold> Target filesystem soesn't have /sbin/init. ; no init found. try passing init = bootarg
[23:06] <Harold> thats the message
[23:06] <acicula> pegler: if that happens arp should be able to tell you that
[23:06] <gogeta> Harold: thats bad seems like you smoked the fs
[23:06] <Harold> what is the fs?
[23:06] <Wargasm> file system?
[23:07] <gogeta> Harold: filesystem you can try to boot recovery and reinstall the kernel might get it back
[23:07] <Harold> ok and how can i do thath?
[23:07] <i42n> might
[23:07] <gogeta> Harold: press escape when grub pops up you have to be quick with it
[23:07] <gogeta> Harold: being thats the same hotkey for boot slect
[23:08] <DinoMuffin> pegler: would you mind posting your syslog?
[23:08] <Harold> ok what then?
[23:08] <pegler> sure, one second
[23:08] <DinoMuffin> or at least a 'grep "eth" syslog'?
[23:08] <gogeta> 'haroso passed the splash screen then hit esc and the grub menu should apper you can pass options and slect failsafe mode
[23:09] <gogeta> Harold: passes the eepc splash not ubuntu
[23:09] <gogeta> Harold: to soon you will get boot menu to late it will just boot like normal its a bit of a pain
[23:10] <Harold> im in that failsafe mode but its the same thing as the normal mode
[23:10] <gogeta> Harold: same error?
[23:10] <Harold> jupp
[23:10] <i42n> failsave can not work without kernel in ram
[23:10] <meerkats> I have been told by a local hardware provider that 1tb hdd from this company (Samsung) are unstable, may I ask how many of you have 1TB external HD?
[23:10] <pegler> DinoMuffin: http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=pL9bQ3EB
[23:11] <gogeta> Harold: i think you might have to just reinsall hate to say that but if you cant get to at least recovery its kinda the only option
[23:11] <Harold> i already tried to reinstall ubuntu but it doesnt continue, the error message, is something like: unable to open svda ord sda
[23:11] <rhizmoe_> well that was weird
[23:11] <Firebolt> I had my computer connected via HDMI to my TV, and I just disconnected it -- however, it now thinks that my only audio output device is my HDMI port
[23:11] <gogeta> Harold: :( id your sssd failing
[23:11] <gogeta> is
[23:12] <Harold> and that means?
[23:12] <pegler> DinoMuffin: There's a network down/up/down/up on Feb 5, which seems to be about the last time it was up
[23:12] <Harold> everything is fucked?
[23:12] <gogeta> Harold: are you trying to use btrfs
[23:12] <gogeta> Harold: that failes
[23:12] <i42n> harold: your hdd is fucked up
[23:12] <hydrox24> Harold: can you watch the language please? family friendly channel
[23:12] <hydrox24> i42n: you too
[23:12] <Harold> oh for sure
[23:12] <Harold> sorry
[23:12] <DinoMuffin> pegler: hm
[23:12] <Harold> the message is: unable to open /dev/sda
[23:13] <gogeta> Harold: thats the issue btrfs is broken on 11.10 use ext2 it should work fine
[23:13] <hydrox24> !language | Harold
[23:13] <hydrox24> !language | i42n
[23:13] <Firebolt> anyone?
[23:13] <hydrox24> Firebolt: I am assuming that you're using the pulseaudio volume control?
[23:13] <scienceNinjaBob> My mouse and touchpad makes x server crash every time i use it.  here's a direct to the log file http://pastebin.com/t2YxJVui
[23:14] <pegler> "Daddy, I was hanging out in the #Ubuntu channel and someone said a bad word."  ha.  I am completely for keeping it professional, but describing this as "family-friendly" made me laugh.
[23:14] <Firebolt> Yeah, that's installed
[23:14] <Harold> how can i use ext2?
[23:14] <gogeta> Harold: btrfs thinks your drive is always full causing the install to fail
[23:14] <Harold> and what is it?
[23:14] <hydrox24> Firebolt: how do you know it can only see HDMI audio output?
[23:14] <pegler> DinoMuffin: would upgrading to a newer distro help, you think?
[23:14] <Harold> and btrfs?
[23:14] <Firebolt> hydrox24, it's not showing it in the dropdown menus
[23:15] <Canadian1296> pegler: "Family friendly" may sound funny, but I know kids as young as 13 who frequent this channel for help.
[23:15] <damo22> Harold: ext2 is a different filesystem type that doesnt use lots of writes
[23:15] <gogeta> Harold: on partating slect advanced or maunal and in the menu slect ext2 rather then btrfs
[23:15] <hydrox24> Firebolt: OK, what version of ubuntu are you using?
[23:15] <Aethrs> I'm trying to create a virtual host under apache2, but even though I add and enable a site it just goes to the 000-default site all the time.  Can anyone tell me why this might happen?
[23:15] <Firebolt> 11.10
[23:15] <DinoMuffin> pegler: lemme ask, do you have any other computers that you can access on that network?
[23:15] <DinoMuffin> pegler: or do any other computers have networking issues?
[23:15] <hydrox24> Firebolt: OK, go to the "sound settings" option under the sound notification icon
[23:15] <gogeta> Harold: if your drives ssd slect 1 single partation with no swap
[23:16] <pegler> DinoMuffin: as far as I know, that is the only one.  The box is not behind a NAT, it has a public IP.  It's on a university campus that has more IPs than they know what to do with.
[23:16] <Harold> ok ok , so what do i have to do or how can i do it?
[23:16] <Firebolt> hydrox24, nothing there either -- output only shows HDMI
[23:16] <Lofde_> i installed a roswell esata pci-x card into ubuntu machine how can i see that its working
[23:17] <gogeta> Harold: i thought you installed it before
[23:17] <Lofde_> i dont have any drives connected to it.. but is there a way to make sure ubuntu is detecting it
[23:17] <damo22> Lofde_: lspci
[23:17] <DinoMuffin> pegler: ok. It made me wonder if there was an issue with their network equiptment. or some conflict between the NIC and the switch
[23:17] <DinoMuffin> or router
[23:17] <hydrox24> Firebolt: is there anything other than HDMI under hardware?
[23:17] <gogeta> Harold: on the partating screen simply slect something else thats advanced
[23:17] <Firebolt> oh, yeah
[23:17] <DinoMuffin> bad switch ports are known to do things like that
[23:17] <Lofde_> 03:00.0 SATA controller: Marvell Technology Group Ltd. 88SE9123 PCIe SATA 6.0 Gb/s controller (rev 11)
[23:17] <Firebolt> ty hydrox24
[23:17] <Firebolt> forgot that tab existed
[23:18] <Lofde_> thanks damo22
[23:18] <pegler> as far as I know, the network gear is working correctly.
[23:18] <damo22> Lofde_: now do lspci -nnvv
[23:18] <hydrox24> Firebolt: awesome, so it worked?
[23:18] <Harold> and i do that in grub right?
[23:18] <damo22> Lofde_: and check at the bottom of it that its loaded a kernel module
[23:19] <hydrox24> Can someone help me with using ffmpeg to convert a V4L2 stream into a file?
[23:19] <hydrox24> I just don't know where to start
[23:19] <DinoMuffin> pegler: do you know if the NIC is connecting in full or half duplex?
[23:19] <Lofde_> damo22 Kernel driver in use: ahci	Kernel modules: ahci
[23:19] <cfhowlett> hydrox24: pretty sure that vlc can capture and save a stream...
[23:19] <scienceNinjaBob> My mouse and touchpad makes x server crash every time i use it.  here's a direct to the log file http://pastebin.com/t2YxJVui
[23:19] <DinoMuffin> another thing bad switch ports could do
[23:19] <damo22> Lofde_: now do dmesg|grep ahci
[23:20] <cfhowlett> hydrox24: also ask @ #ubuntustudio #ffmpeg
[23:20] <hydrox24> cfhowlett: Thanks, I have used VLC and can watch the stream easily, I am simply interested in getting it to work with ffmpeg
[23:20] <hydrox24> cfhowlett: thanks, will do
[23:20] <damo22> Lofde_: but dont paste the output here
[23:20] <copacetic> I'm running 10.04LTS as a server, right now I have apache 2.2.14 installed, but I need 2.2.15+  ,  what would be the best way to install a more recent version of apache?
[23:20] <damo22> Lofde_: put it in a pastebin
[23:20] <pegler> DinoMuffin: I don't know.  I googled and just tried with mii-tool and dmesg | grep -i duplex and didn't find out.
[23:20] <pegler> mii-tool actually errored out
[23:20] <Aiutooooo> helloo
[23:21] <pegler> SIOCGMIIPHY on 'eth0' failed: Operation not supported  no MII interfaces found
[23:21] <hydrox24> Aiutooooo: Helloooo
[23:21] <Lofde_> damo22 http://pastebin.com/H5wyEQ7H
[23:21] <Aiutooooo> i have some problems after the installation of compiz fusion
[23:21] <Harold> ^^ omg there's a linux version for kids called "sugar on a stick", that's the most pedophile stuff i ever heard
[23:22] <vjacob> hello all. can anyone give me a few points on what the best method is to take a file that has a package name on each line as well as the word 'installed and then: remove the 'install' word, delete line shifts and separate package names by a space only and save it to a new file?
[23:22] <damo22> Lofde_: yup looks good
[23:22] <scienceNinjaBob> What the next step? it's kinda annoying having to navigate with keys only
[23:22] <DinoMuffin> pegler: did you run mii-tool as root?
[23:22] <pegler> yea
[23:22] <schurl> hello! im new to ubuntu and i have a problem. one of my internal hdds is called .medion, so its hidden, i already made a mount point at /media but how can i rename the hdd so it always shows up?
[23:22] <DinoMuffin> hmz
[23:22] <Lofde_> ok sweet
[23:22] <hydrox24> Aiutooooo: just specify the issues, if someone can help, they will
[23:22] <damo22> Lofde_: your main board sata has 6 ports
[23:22] <damo22> Lofde_: now you have 14 ports
[23:23] <hydrox24> schurl: what version of ubuntu are you using?
[23:23] <schurl> the newest 11.10
[23:23] <DinoMuffin> pegler: now THAT is odd, I don't know why mii-tool wouldn't e reporting the link status
[23:23] <Lofde_> ehh its weird because it only has 1 internal port.. and 1 esata port.. (on the card) but correct i do have 6 sata ports on the motherboard dell xps 410
[23:23] <i42n> vjacob: checkout the tool sed
[23:24] <hydrox24> schurl: sorry, was trying to type scienceNinjaBob name
[23:24] <vjacob> i42n: thanks
[23:24] <schurl> k
[23:24] <Lofde_> ubuntu + ssd = <3
[23:24] <Aiutooooo> it all disappeared... menu bar and even the pointer... the only thing i can do is open (and only open) the folders and move files... but it don't work... i can't move the windows and i can't close it... i can't open the terminal
[23:24] <DinoMuffin> pegler: does it output anything at all?
[23:24] <Harold> does gentoo run on an eee-pc?
[23:24] <damo22> Lofde_: which fs are you using on the ssd?
[23:24] <Harold> i mean properly
[23:24] <Lofde_> ext4
[23:24] <hydrox24> schurl: use "gparted" (Graphical program) to rename the HDD
[23:24] <damo22> Lofde_: not good
[23:24] <pegler> DinoMuffin: just the error I posted.  SIOCGMIIPHY on 'eth0' failed: Operation not supported     no MII interfaces found
[23:24] <scienceNinjaBob> my version? 12.04 with unity-2d it always worked stopped working after a reboot
[23:24] <Harold> alright thank you
[23:25] <randomnewb> Isn't ext2 better for ssd?
[23:25] <schurl> hydrox24: thanks i will try it
[23:25] <hydrox24> schurl: is it isn't installed then you can do so via your favourite method. just shout if you need help installing
[23:25] <damo22> Lofde_: you should use a non journalling fs on ssd
[23:25] <hydrox24> schurl: also, make sure the drive is unmounted before renameing it.
[23:25] <Lofde_> ok.. when 12.04 comes out what would you recommend...
[23:25] <schurl> hydrox24: how do i do that?=
[23:26] <Harold> why are people using different distributions? if you use the same GUI there's almost no difference? ( for amatures of course)
[23:26] <damo22> Lofde_: assuming bugs are fixed someone mentioned btrfs? can anyone confirm this
[23:26] <DinoMuffin> well
[23:27] <scienceNinjaBob> i meant 11.10
[23:27] <Harold> or is it just a matter of stability?
[23:27] <pegler> I'm trying to figure out why mii-tool isn't working.
[23:27] <Harold> and safety?
[23:27] <DinoMuffin> pegler: you might also try ethtool
[23:27] <hydrox24> Harold: mm, well I guess some people care about having whatever WM they use installed by default (and thus suppoprted)
[23:27] <hydrox24> schurl: unmount it?
[23:27] <Lofde_> I have a friend that is big on the ZFS that oracle has... reading the wiki on btrfs.. seems interesting.. ill have to research it
[23:27] <schurl> hydrox24: yes
[23:27] <DinoMuffin> pegler: I need to brb for about 15-20 minutes
[23:28] <Aiutooooo> it's there anyone in there?
[23:28] <DinoMuffin> someone else might be able to help in the meantime
[23:28] <hydrox24> schurl: does it appear in the sidebar in nautilus? (I am assuming not)
[23:28] <pegler> that's fine.  thanks a lot for your help
[23:28] <pegler> I'll keep checking things
[23:28] <DinoMuffin> no prob, hope it works out
[23:28] <schurl> hydrox24:  no only after restart, after i click once on it, it disappears
[23:28] <hydrox24> Aiutooooo: we CAN hear you...
[23:28] <hydrox24> schurl: OK
[23:28] <hydrox24> schurl: can you open up a terminal?
[23:28] <Harold> can anybody recommend me a faster alternative to gnome (i want the newest version of whatever without using unity)
[23:29] <schurl> hydrox24:  already did
[23:29] <hydrox24> Harold: I use gnome3 and find that pretty snappy
[23:29] <cfhowlett> Harold: lxde or xfce : lubuntu or xubuntu
[23:29] <Harold> which one looks better?
[23:29] <hydrox24> schurl: OK then: sudo umount /media/.medion
[23:30] <Aiutooooo> i need to use Ubuntu... 'cause my Hard Drive had fainted and Ubuntu stopped to work properly since 1 year
[23:30] <Wargasm> lxde is fastest from what I've read
[23:30] <Wargasm> xfce is more complete
[23:30] <hydrox24> Harold: both are customizable...
[23:30] <Harold> so are women
[23:30] <damo22> ????
[23:30] <schurl> hydrox24: ok, did it, no confirmation or anything, is that ok?
[23:30] <Harold> but seriusly which one would you recommend if you're used to gnome
[23:30] <hydrox24> schurl: yup
[23:31] <OerHeks> Harold, try not to be funny, it is not appreciated, thanx
[23:31] <hydrox24> schurl: now go ahead and use gparted to rename it
[23:31] <scienceNinjaBob> wasn't even half funny
[23:31] <schurl> hydrox24: ok thanks, gparted i get from ubuntu software center?
[23:31] <franck99> ~/help
[23:31] <Wargasm> quarter funny?
[23:31] <hydrox24> schurl: sure
[23:31] <scienceNinjaBob> about
[23:31] <Wargasm> Harold: if you want speed, lxde or xfce
[23:31] <schurl> hydrox24: ill try and report back
[23:31] <hydrox24> franck99: just ask the Q mate.
[23:32] <damo22> franck99: ~/ask
[23:32] <hydrox24> schurl: OK
[23:32] <scienceNinjaBob> My mouse and touchpad makes x server crash every time i use it.  here's a direct to the log file http://pastebin.com/t2YxJVui
[23:32] <Harold> yep i got but which one of those two?
[23:32] <Wargasm> Harold: I use lxde and its great
[23:32] <hydrox24> scienceNinjaBob: what version of ubuntu are you using?
[23:32] <scienceNinjaBob> using 11.10
[23:33] <scienceNinjaBob> unity 2d
[23:33] <scienceNinjaBob> and it worked fine 2 days ago
[23:33] <Wargasm> Harold: only having an issue with the battery monitor but I installed one to take its place
[23:33] <hydrox24> scienceNinjaBob: have you messed around with xorg.conf?
[23:33] <scienceNinjaBob> no
[23:33] <Harold> ok thanks a lot :-)
[23:33] <scienceNinjaBob> i just restarted the laptop
[23:33] <hydrox24> scienceNinjaBob: are you dual booting w/ windows
[23:34] <scienceNinjaBob> no single boot
[23:34] <damo22> scienceNinjaBob: (II) AIGLX: dlopen of /usr/lib32/dri-alternates/sis315_dri.so faile
[23:34] <damo22> d (/usr/lib32/dri-alternates/sis315_dri.so: cannot open shared object file: No s
[23:34] <damo22> uch file or directory)
[23:34] <Halexander9000> Greetings from Eastern Europe! I'm talking to you from a 2008 ASUS EEE PC 904HD running Ubuntu. I installed the Sun Java runtime and wanted to play some Minecraft. This is the error message I received: http://pastebin.com/Ypn5WSxX . Could someone please private message me so we can resolve this issue? Please?
[23:34] <damo22> oops crap
[23:34] <CharminTheMoose_> Is it possible for two kernels of the same version on the same system to co-exist without too much hassle?
[23:35] <Aiutooooo> when i boot on ubuntu all disappear... menu bar and even the pointer... the only thing i can do is open (and only open) the folders and move files... but it don't work... i can't move the windows and i can't close it... i can't open the terminal
[23:35] <scienceNinjaBob> ye I saw some failes but don't know what it means
[23:35] <meco> What's the command for installing a downloaded .deb file?
[23:35] <hydrox24> damo22: you think it might be permission issues?
[23:35] <hydrox24> meco: dpkg -i <file>
[23:36] <schurl> hydrox24: i just clicked on sdb1 then i renamed it and now it asks me for confirmation, but its warning me that i could loose my data, is it safe to confirm=
[23:36] <meco> appreciated!
[23:36] <damo22> hydrox24: not sure, it looks like it
[23:36] <schurl> hydrox24: ?
[23:36] <hydrox24> schurl: you should be "labelling it
[23:36] <scienceNinjaBob> a file missing? dunno i had in the past some problem with the sis video driver mouse touchpad always worked fine
[23:37] <alket> Just installed Ubuntu 11.10 in lap top, mouse is not working (built in one) , help please
[23:37] <schurl> hydrox24: sorry my ubuntu is in german, but i right-clicked the drive and used "rename", is that what you mean=
[23:37] <damo22> scienceNinjaBob: what does "find /usr -type f sis315_dri.so" do
[23:38] <scienceNinjaBob> hold on got to do it by keys
[23:38] <hydrox24> schurl: sorry, double checking with one of my own drives, won't be a sec
[23:38] <Aiutooooo> when i boot on ubuntu all disappear... menu bar and even the pointer... the only thing i can do is open (and only open) the folders and move files... but it don't work... i can't move the windows and i can't close it... i can't open the terminal
[23:38] <ona_matt> does the ubuntu initrd support doing netboots via http or tftp instead of nfs?
[23:38] <schurl> hydrox24: thanks
[23:39] <dddd> installing ndiswrapper utils give me a dependency error. help
[23:39] <ona_matt> my goal is to netboot a livecd image via http or tftp. I want to avoid using nfs
[23:39] <ona_matt> which seems to be the only option
[23:41] <hydrox24> schurl: Will be back in 5min, sorry
[23:42] <schurl> hydrox24: k
[23:42] <scienceNinjaBob> nothing came up searching for sis315_dri.so
[23:42] <CharminTheMoose_> Is it possible for two kernels of the same version on the same system to co-exist without too much hassle?
[23:42] <Aiutooooo> anyone can HELP me? xD
[23:42] <Halexander9000> Greetings from Eastern Europe! I'm sorry for repeating myself but I'm talking to you from a 2008 ASUS EEE PC 904HD running Ubuntu. I installed the Sun Java runtime and wanted to play some Minecraft. This is the error message I received: http://pastebin.com/Ypn5WSxX . Could someone please private message me so we can resolve this issue? Please?
[23:43] <Nach0z> Aiutooooo: try hitting ctrl+alt+f1, see if it brings up the text-only screen for you
[23:43] <Nach0z> if it doesn't, it means your keyboard or something might be messed up. if it does,.... don't have a clue
[23:43] <damo22> scienceNinjaBob: try doing it as sudo
[23:43] <Nach0z> use ctrl+alt+f7 to get back to the windowed screen
[23:43] <damo22> s/as/with
[23:44] <Aiutooooo> ok... then?
[23:44] <Wargasm> Aiutooooo: did it work?
[23:45] <Aiutooooo> i don't need to go on the text only screen xD
[23:45] <Aiutooooo> i don't know what i have to type inside that :D
[23:45] <jschall> Halexander9000: http://www.minecraftforum.net/topic/53709-solved-black-screen-after-login-ubuntu-1010/
[23:45] <jschall> Halexander9000: google is your friend
[23:46] <scienceNinjaBob> no nothing for sis315_dri.so also i don't see a lib32 in my /usr directory
[23:47] <Srgugop45> /help
[23:47] <hydrox24> schurl: OK, back
[23:47] <hydrox24> Srgugop45: /ask
[23:47] <usrb1n> Hi
[23:47] <usrb1n> I have a strange problem
[23:47] <usrb1n> EVery time I want to watch a video on youtube
[23:48] <usrb1n> after 10-15 seconds my pc is frozen
[23:48] <usrb1n> ANd I Don't have any other option
[23:48] <usrb1n> than reboot
[23:48] <SteaMLite> Anyone here use Wine?
[23:48] <hydrox24> usrb1n: what browser are you using?
[23:48] <usrb1n> FIrefox
[23:48] <hydrox24> SteaMLite: yes, why?
[23:48] <Aiutooooo> i can't do anything...
[23:48] <usrb1n> I just installed this few hours ago (this=ubuntu)
[23:48] <scienceNinjaBob> userb1n are you part of the youtube html5 program?
[23:49] <damo22> scienceNinjaBob: sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-video-sis
[23:49] <hydrox24> schurl: yeh, go ahead and do the rename
[23:49] <Aiutooooo> i need to reset to default all things
[23:49] <usrb1n> This happened before and I thought it's because I don't have the video card installed
[23:49] <schurl> hydrox24: ok one moment
[23:49] <hydrox24> hydrox24: the warning is just for any edit you make in gparted
[23:49] <Aiutooooo> what can i do?
[23:49] <usrb1n> but I just installed the drivers and and problem stills there
[23:49] <usrb1n> scienceNinjaBob: I don't think so.
[23:49] <usrb1n> Am I?
[23:49] <scienceNinjaBob> you're sure damo22 something tells me that is going to screw up my screen again
[23:50] <damo22> scienceNinjaBob: what kind of video card do you have
[23:50] <meco> When an installation process tells me "Package python-wxgtk2.8 is not installed", what does that entail? Is that like adding a perl module or is it like installing a program using apt-get?
[23:50] <schurl> hydrox24: ok IT WORKED thanks!!!!!! should i mount it now?
[23:50] <damo22> scienceNinjaBob: lspci |grep VGA
[23:51] <hydrox24> schurl: yup, go ahead!
[23:52] <hydrox24> scienceNinjaBob: don't post the output here though plz
[23:52] <damo22> scienceNinjaBob: you can if its one line
[23:52] <hydrox24> scienceNinjaBob: that's true
[23:52] <kriskropd> does anybody here know why a eth0 with 'Wake-on: g' and a 5 watt power to the NIC with an orange light will not wake on lan? I've looked at countless guides and I jsut can't get this old Dell Precision 470 to cooperate :/
[23:53] <schurl> hydrox24: i can see it now in the explorer (its called nautilus right?) but i cant open it, i rightclicked it and used "mount" but i cant open it?
[23:53] <scienceNinjaBob> damo22: a SiS 771/671
[23:53] <scienceNinjaBob> they are a headache
[23:53] <damo22> scienceNinjaBob: sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-video-sis
[23:53] <scienceNinjaBob> k if you say so
[23:54] <usrb1n> I just tried to watch a video in other page than youtube
[23:54] <samuel> hello guys
[23:54] <usrb1n> "The Adobe Flash plugin has crashed"
[23:54] <usrb1n> After few seconds
[23:54] <damo22> scienceNinjaBob: did it install anything? or was it already installed?
[23:54] <usrb1n> Do you think this can be the problem ? DO you think adobe flash player can freeze my pc on youtube?
[23:55] <Wargasm> usrb1n: I think its definitely possible
[23:55] <scienceNinjaBob> xserver-xorg-video-sis is already the newest version.
[23:55] <scienceNinjaBob> xserver-xorg-video-sis is already the newest version.
[23:56] <damo22> scienceNinjaBob: ok
[23:56] <samuel> I am installing 11.10 in a computer my sister just bought, HP pavillion dm4. However something really wierd happens. I need to use video=1366x768 in the kernel commandline to get the correct resolution, but when I boot like this it boots into a blank screen. Closing the lid (putting it to sleep) and opening it back up seems to solve the issue. Any ideas what this might be?
[23:57] <Halexander9000> jschall: Thanks dude! It worked!
[23:57] <damo22> scienceNinjaBob: can you do cat /etc/X11/xorg.conf |grep -2 Driver
[23:57] <scienceNinjaBob> sure hold on
[23:58] <damo22> scienceNinjaBob: im just interested in the line that says Driver in the device section
[23:58] <kaphe> hi, how can I delete a gnome-panel which is stuck on auto hide?
[23:58] <schurl> hydrox24: nevermind, its working now. im going to do a restart to check if its still working, ill report back
[23:58] <schurl> hydrox24: thank you
[23:58] <scienceNinjaBob> Section "Device" Identifier      "Configured Video Device" Driver          "sis671"
[23:58] <scienceNinjaBob> EndSection
[23:58] <damo22> scienceNinjaBob: looks correct
[23:58] <hydrox24> schmidtm: you should just click it
[23:59] <scienceNinjaBob> is that good news?
[23:59] <damo22> i cant figure this out