[01:31] <XartaoX> g'day
[01:31] <XartaoX> attempting first compile
[01:31] <XartaoX> fingers crossed
[01:40] <XartaoX> crap. fail.
[01:40] <XartaoX> and i've no idea how to fix it
[01:41] <XartaoX> oh well
[01:44] <holstein> :/
[06:30] <cfhowlett> Mods: Hey mods: first line of the ubotto description reads "UbuntuStudio is a collection of packages for the artist who wishes to use Ubuntu as their Digital Audio Workstation." US has always seemed heavily tilted toward musicians as shown by this statement. How about a description a bit more inclusive of 2d/3d and DTP creative types?
[07:00] <astraljava> Thanks, cfhowlett. I'm raising the issue with the proper personnel.
[07:00] <cfhowlett> astraljava: cool!
[07:53] <stochastic> I'd agree entirely cfhowlett.  What should it read in your opinion?
[07:53] <cfhowlett> stochastic: let me think about it?  I'll post something up tomorrow or /msg you direct?
[07:57] <stochastic> There are a few around here that can change it, I'll try to get to it as soon as I can.  I forget if I have the clearance/remember commands/etc.. or not.
[07:58] <cfhowlett> no problem.  It's late and I'm not at my most eloquent and articulate...
[20:36] <cfhowlett> !ubuntustudio>cfhowlett
[20:58] <arno> hello
[20:59] <Guest23541> i search to install all package for music all effects all rack, is there a trick or a .sh,
[20:59] <cfhowlett> Guest23541: change your nick to something easier plz.
[20:59] <Guest23541> nick/ zx81
[21:00] <cfhowlett> astraljava: holstein: mods: my suggestion for the ubotto #ubuntustudio description: Ubuntu Studio is a collection of multimedia creation tools for musicians, writers, film-makers, desktop-publishers, designers and other digital artists.
[21:01] <cfhowlett> arno_____: are you talking about in audacity or what??
[21:02] <arno_____> -qjack - bistrol- calf - rackkarack - guitarix - frestige - etc
[21:02] <arno_____> all the package mao
[21:03] <arno_____> compatible with  3.0.0-12-generic #20-Ubuntu SMP Fri Oct 7 14:56:25 UTC 2011 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux
[21:03] <cfhowlett> arno_____: sudo apt-get install package-names
[21:04] <arno_____> wich "package-names"
[21:05] <cfhowlett> arno_____: every ubuntu package has a name.
[21:06] <cfhowlett> arno_____: what ubuntu are you using?
[21:08] <arno_____> ok
[21:08] <arno_____> thx
[21:09] <cfhowlett> arno_____: no problem
[21:09] <arno_____> i try to mix 12.04 +mao
[21:09] <arno_____> precise
[21:09] <cfhowlett> !ubuntu+1|arno_
[21:10] <arno_____> ok
[21:10] <arno_____> by
[21:30] <Guest22654> Hi, could someone help talk me through setting up JACK?
[21:30] <cfhowlett> Guest22654: also try #openmusicians
[21:30] <Guest22654> ok, thanks, but i probably shouldn't cross-post
[21:34] <cfhowlett> or  ##linuxaudio
[21:34] <cfhowlett> describe the jack issue plz
[21:34] <cfhowlett> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HowToJACKConfiguration
[21:35] <Guest22654> I looked at that but was just mystified. I tried a lot of things, but it still stubbornly won't start.
[21:36] <Guest22654> Ardour can't start it with the default setttings, and qjackctl
[21:36] <cfhowlett> Guest22654: change nick to easier name plz
[21:37] <cfhowlett> jack needs the RT kernel to run...
[21:37] <easiername> :-D
[21:37] <easiername> Hmm, I thought it didn't.
[21:37] <cfhowlett> easiername: OK...LOL.
[21:37] <easiername> I read somewhere it would work fine without it
[21:37] <cfhowlett> easiername: wait one...
[21:38] <cfhowlett> easiername: http://jackaudio.org/realtime_vs_realtime_kernel
[21:38] <cfhowlett> easiername: appears you may be right but if you're using ardour, I'd really go with the RT kernel.
[21:39] <cfhowlett> easiername: http://ardour.org/a3_features_jack_session_support
[21:40] <easiername> Hmm.
[21:40] <easiername> Well, I don't really need anything that fancy, just enough for some simple production/mixing/synth stuff.
[21:40] <cfhowlett> may I ask what you're recording?  album/song/podcast...
[21:40] <easiername> Albums and songs.
[21:40] <cfhowlett> with instrument inputs?
[21:41] <easiername> Basically I'm looking for GarageBand (yes it's evil) on Linux, and Ardour looked like a good option.
[21:41] <cfhowlett> easiername: have you tried audacity?
[21:42] <easiername> I have, but it doesn't do nearly as much as I want in the way of effects and such. (Admittedly I haven't worked with it a lot, but oh well.)
[21:42] <wxl> …or qtractor
[21:42] <easiername> wxl: that looks interesting. It still needs JACK though…
[21:42] <wxl> jack is good for your health ;)
[21:43] <easiername> be nice if I could make it start though…
[21:43] <wxl> oh hm sorry didn't read scrollback
[21:44] <cfhowlett> I don't use jack, so any insight you can offer wxl...
[21:44] <easiername> When I try I get: JackAudioDriver::ProcessAsync: read error, alsa_driver_xrun_recovery, and get stuck in an endless loop while qjackctl keeps trying to start it and I can't make it stop.
[21:45] <wxl> after installing jack, have you ensured that you're a member of the audio group and that you've logged out/back in (or exec su -l $USER)?
[21:45] <easiername> Also, when I try to start it it mutes everything else, which is kind of obnoxious.
[21:45] <wxl> also have you made sure to set up realtime? if not dpkg-reconfigure jackd2 or whatever should do the trick
[21:45] <cfhowlett> easiername: jack controls audio processing priority - it's designed to mute everything else
[21:45] <wxl> it WILL mute everything else
[21:45] <wxl> if you run pulseaudio you can set up the pulseaudio-jack source/sink but it's a little bit of a pain in the butt
[21:46] <easiername> uhm, ok. Weel, I still want to be able to hear other things when I'm working in Ardour, duh! :-P
[21:46] <wxl> why?
[21:47] <easiername> Well, what if I have a piece in Banshee that I want to add to my ardour project, and then edit it, then export it back to banshee? I don't want to have to restart jack every time.
[21:47] <wxl> why not just play it in ardour?
[21:47] <easiername> Um, i chose to not enable realtime, because it says it will casue a complete system crash. I don't want that.
[21:47] <easiername> :-P
[21:48] <easiername> Well, I like and know Banshee. I like things to all work together.
[21:48] <wxl> i've never had such a problem
[21:48] <easiername> With it locking up?
[21:48] <wxl> but you're adding more work for yourself
[21:48] <wxl> i use jack all the time
[21:48] <cfhowlett> easiername: no reason rt should crash the system if set up right...
[21:48] <wxl> i run all sorts of crap into it simultaneously
[21:48] <easiername> Ok, I'll go with it then
[21:48] <wxl> no problems with rt at all
[21:48] <cfhowlett> easiername: but if it did you could still boot the non-rt
[21:48] <easiername> reconfigured now.
[21:49] <easiername> well, this wasn't the realtime kernel, this is just haveing Jack use ealtim.
[21:49] <easiername> um, *realtime*.
[21:49] <wxl> i don't use a unique realtime kernel
[21:49] <wxl> maybe i should but i've been fine so far so haven't bothered
[21:49] <easiername> Ardour still can't start jack.
[21:50] <wxl> did you just install it?
[21:50] <easiername> No, I juts ran dpkg-reconfigure jackd2 and seleted the realtime option.
[21:51] <wxl> run "groups"
[21:51] <easiername> Is there a graphics card usage monitor that will tell me what's using all my graphics processing power?
[21:52] <easiername> (sorry, totally random question)
[21:52] <easiername> kyan adm dialout fax cdrom floppy tape audio dip video plugdev fuse lpadmin admin sambashare
[21:52] <wxl> ok you are part of audio
[21:52] <wxl> so that's good
[21:52] <easiername> I'm pretty sure I am
[21:54] <wxl> what is /etc/security/limits.d/audio.conf contain?
[21:55] <easiername> wxl: http://pastebin.com/aT9JiyQm
[21:56] <wxl> looks right
[21:56] <easiername> hmm
[21:56] <wxl> can you just load up qjackctl?
[21:56] <easiername> somethin' aint.
[21:56] <easiername> :-D
[21:57] <easiername> On starting JACK through qjackctl, I get: Could not connect to JACK server as client.
[21:57] <easiername> - Overall operation failed.
[21:57] <easiername> - Unable to connect to server.
[21:57] <easiername> Please check the messages window for more info.
[21:57] <easiername> And in the messages window: http://pastebin.com/GbWvNiQY
[21:59] <wxl> easiername: try closing any browsers or a/v players
[22:02] <easiername> Now I'm geting millions of: JackAudioDriver::ProcessAsync: read error, skip cycle
[22:02] <easiername> alsa_driver_xrun_recovery
[22:04] <wxl> shooting in the dark: try a reboot
[22:08] <cfhowlett> easiername: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuStudioPreparation
[22:09] <easiername> wxl: Well, I've done that several times since I last got that message a few weeks ago when I tried to start JACK, so I think it'd be good by now. Do you still think I should?
[22:13] <wxl> easiername: yep
[22:15] <easiername> ok
[22:15] <easiername> be right back then :-)