[00:25] afiestas: didn't you have a patch for bug 898390 [00:25] Launchpad bug 898390 in KDE Base Workspace "krandr-tray doesn't restore monitor arrangement on startup" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/898390 [00:41] "Follow feature freeze" [00:41] I think I need to write you people a 101 on how to write work items :P [00:42] hi channel [00:43] [kubuntu-members] Make sure https://wiki.kubuntu.org/Kubuntu/Bugs/Reporting is up to date and easily found from kubuntu.org: TODO [00:43] [kubuntu-members] Document on above wiki page which packages are kubuntu specific: TODO [00:43] that is wrong [00:43] the reporting stuff should not be on the wiki to begin with [00:43] gnumdk is netrunner repo? [00:43] I think so [00:43] gnumdk? [00:44] apachelogger, https://launchpad.net/~gnumdk/+archive/ppa [00:44] apachelogger: where should it be? [00:45] apachelogger, it was dicsussion about gnumdk. [00:45] and I think he have some to do with kubuntu based netrunner [00:45] ah, you mean ejat [00:45] yofel, exactly. [00:45] yeah, looks like it was the package from there [00:46] yofel: help.ubuntu [00:46] apachelogger: well, *that* links to our page [00:46] wiki = contributors [00:46] help = users [00:46] ah wait [00:46] right [00:46] agreed [00:46] I will be much more in kubuntu channel then before [00:47] thats what I can give right now and easy packing [00:47] * yofel hugs Kurdistan [00:47] only problem is uni :) [00:47] but when I have time I will be here [00:48] yofel, thats least I can do. [00:48] kubuntu and kde is growing inside me [00:48] I got loved with kde in 4.6.5 [00:49] if we can fix smal issue with kubuntu, it will på top of the top. [01:12] apachelogger: mope [01:12] *nope [01:13] afiestas: go fix it then :P [01:13] nah [01:13] I mean, it worked before 4.8 (at least for markey) so the regression cannot that big [01:13] though rather annoying impact [01:13] I didn't broke it :p [01:15] what is the regression? [01:16] screen resolution getting reset on every login [01:18] yofel, hmm. is it "kubuntu" specific or upstream? [01:19] upstream from what I know [01:26] yofel, oki. [01:26] hmm it seems one http://i.imgur.com/2u5qd.jpg is affected of this bug [01:26] and this person does not use nvidia beta drivers [01:26] latest stable nvidia with kde 4.8.0 [01:27] starting to think it can be kde/kubuntu bug [01:28] problem accure when log in and log out [01:44] Kurdistan: hm, thinking of it, I've seen a black background issue in gtk apps sometimes, but it's like totally random and usually fixed by rebooting [01:44] it doesn't affetc Qt though [01:44] *affect [01:47] yofel, yes it fixes with reboot [01:47] or restarting x [01:48] yofel, will try tomorrow if it effects qt [02:44] bye channel. sleep. === bulldog98 is now known as bulldog98_home === Guest59628 is now known as juss01 === juss01 is now known as jussi01 [10:53] yofel, you hade right my friend this bug only effects gtk application. [10:53] lol [10:53] even ubuntu's software center agrees that KDE apps are supreme :D [10:53] http://people.ubuntu.com/~yofel/pics/softcent.png [10:54] yofel, is there any bug-report about this? [10:54] no idea, I haven't filed one because I couldn't figure any way out how to reliably reproduce that [10:55] yofel, I have just reproduce it. [10:55] is seems 3 person include me are all nvidia users also [10:55] ... [10:55] well, same for me [10:55] yofel, can you log in/out let say 3 time? [10:56] this will happen then [10:57] hm, ok [10:59] oh fun, happened on first logout [10:59] now what to file a bug against..... [10:59] yofel, then this is a kde bug and not nvidia [10:59] well, file it against oxygen-gtk, maybe they'll know where to look [11:00] except that this isn't theme specific at all [11:00] could be a bug in gtk as well [11:01] but then it would be gtk2 and gtk3 [11:01] * yofel is clueless [11:01] yofel, same here. [11:02] yofel, only fix is restart computer or restarting x. [11:02] hm [11:02] * yofel kills kdm [11:02] yofel, you think it can be kdm related? [11:03] fixed [11:03] hm [11:03] as I said, I don't know. It could be anything that's related to gtk rendering [11:05] can some one with other gaphical card test it? [11:05] let se if it is nvidia only [11:05] yofel, you are also running kde 4.8.0? [11:06] 4.8 precise [11:06] ah wait, I've an intel card in my eeePC [11:07] yofel, okey, this can be kde 4.8.0 bug [11:07] I don't think so [11:07] * yofel throws the nvidia driver off his system [11:08] yofel, I am chatting with slackware user now. let see if he have the same issue. [11:10] yofel, this bug did not effect your eeePC with intel? [11:13] now let's see if I can reproduce this with nouveau without locking my GPU up... [11:14] yofel, hehe good luck. [11:20] * yofel files a bug against nvidia [11:21] yofel, so this was nvidia specific? [11:21] you are a angel [11:22] intel: unreproducable, nouveau: unreproducable, nvidia 290: breaks after 1 or 2 tries [11:22] yofel, remenber to mention [11:22] also latest nvidia beta driver 295.17 breaks it [11:23] hm.... [11:23] now I need a working browser that I can file this with... [11:23] -.- [11:24] konqueror to the rescue :D [11:25] yofel, hehe [11:27] hm [11:27] yofel, same problem with konqueror? [11:28] no, but some Qt applications are affected after all [11:28] ksnapshot looks broken here [11:29] yofel, hmm. that was intressting. [11:30] but I can't find a patter there. ksnapshot is rendered like dolphin from your snaphot, but everything else seems fine [11:30] *pattern [11:30] * yofel digs throug nvnews [11:33] yofel, can not find anything useful from nvnews [11:33] hm, why am I getting an nspluginviewer crash when I don't even have the wrapper installed o.O [11:34] ah, that's part of konqueror-nsplugins [11:38] yofel, did you write bug-report for this to nvidia (nvnews)? [11:40] sry, filed a bug about nspluginviewer firt [11:40] *first [11:43] yofel, take your time. [11:44] I wonder if this is nvidia+kde 4.8.0 specific or not. [11:45] IIRC I've seen that with 4.7 too, so I rather thing it's an issue with the recent nvidia blobs [11:46] trying an older one might work, but X in precise is too new for that I think [11:46] on oneiric you could have a chance [11:46] Kurdistan: I've given up on nvnews. I'm horrible with captchas, add what you want on bug 930614 [11:46] Launchpad bug 930614 in nvidia-graphics-drivers (Ubuntu) "Background in gtk applications is rendered wrong after logging out in KDE" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/930614 [11:48] yofel, thx like I mention also 295.17 (beta) drivers are effected [11:48] sure, and set the bug to confirmed while you're at it [11:49] yofel, will do. lets se my password for launchpad. [12:01] yofel, so fixed my password. now I will confirmed. [12:07] yofel, done. === Guest36384 is now known as Mamarok [12:46] Quintasan: I'm moving the telepathy kde packages into the team ppa [12:48] now... what did I want to do again when I woke up... [13:19] Hey folks [13:19] hi BluesKaj [13:19] hey Kurdistan [13:19] BluesKaj, you had nvidia card? [13:19] yes [13:19] https://launchpad.net/bugs/930614 [13:19] Ubuntu bug 930614 in nvidia-graphics-drivers (Ubuntu) "Application rendering broken after logging out in KDE" [Undecided,Confirmed] [13:22] I haven't had any problems Kurdistan , and I have nvidia on 2 pcs runnining 12.04 [13:24] BluesKaj, have you tried login out/in [13:24] ? 2-3 times in road [13:24] i did yesterday [13:29] BluesKaj, okey intressting. [13:29] it affects me, yofel and some user in swedish loco. [13:30] we all have kde 4.8.0 and nvidia cards [13:30] BluesKaj: used any GTK stuff after that? [13:30] as this mostly affects gtk [13:33] yofel, yes , synaptic, it doesn't accept text in the qquick search box , so one has to use the seperate search , but otherwise I haven't noticed anyhing [13:33] afiestas hmmm [13:34] I can try relogging in [13:34] Kurdistan, yofel: I am using opensorce ati drivers and I don't have that problems. [13:34] schnelle, this is nvidia [13:34] but for me logout on opensorce ati drivers doesn't work by default [13:34] schnelle: yeah, seems to be nvidia blob only [13:34] schnelle, it seems not effecting intel and ati then. [13:34] only blob so far [13:35] afieastas' appmenu-"hud" thingy doesn't seem to work here /: [13:35] ok ,brb I hope [13:35] yes, but i want to say, by default logout doesn't work for me since... mmm ever. I have to edit kdmrc file and uncomment "TerminateServer=true" line [13:36] so you can try to uncomment that line, reboot for change to take effect, and then logout/login to see does this tweak helps [13:36] that'll help [13:36] as we know that killing X helps [13:37] yofel: why kubuntu doesn't ship this line uncommented by default? [13:37] for many ati opensource users (and intel) logout doesn't work by default [13:38] untill TerminateServer=true is uncommented [13:38] rephrase that: why does KDE ship that with false as default [13:38] is there a fix for this? [13:38] Kurdistan: well, see what schnelle just said, and tell that the other person that's affected [13:38] yofel, will try that. [13:39] KUrdistan: you have to reboot after uncommeting the "TerminateServer=true" line [13:40] all seems fine here , but I don't use much GTK , so I guess I'm not much help :) [13:42] apachelogger: what happened to your plymouth stuff? [13:42] schnelle, thx will do. [13:44] will precise use kdm or lightdm? [13:45] kdm I guess [13:45] I have no idea what the progress on lightdm is [13:45] it this will fix the issue should we have this from start in 12.04? [13:46] *if this [13:46] well, I would have to talk to the kdm devs why this is false in the first place, then see if we can consider that [13:48] in my experience, with ati and nvidia proprietary drivers, logout works, with opensource drivers i have to uncomment that line to make logout work [13:48] works fine with nouveau and intel [13:48] schnelle, my uncomment you mean remove # and were is kdmrc? [13:48] yes [13:48] kdmrc is /etc/kde4/kdm/kdmrc [13:48] I can not find it in .kde [13:49] I see wrong dire... :) [13:50] schnelle, I do not even have TerminateServer=true in kdmrc [13:51] very strange [13:51] Kurdistan: can you pastebin your kdmrc? [13:51] i have it on all my installations [13:51] yofel, I will do. [13:53] yofel, http://paste.ubuntu.com/837832/ [13:55] Kurdistan: add the setting to the [X-:*-Core] section [13:56] ideas and mentors needed for KDE.. [13:56] 13:36 < Teo`> Everyone, GSoC 2012 ideas time! If you have an idea that you want to see implemented by a student during GSoC, don't keep it to yourself :D Please add it to the Ideas page http://community.kde.org/GSoC/2012/Ideas [13:56] yofel, why does not I have this but schnelle ? [13:57] Kurdistan: no idea, your file doesn't have much to do with the default one [13:57] Kurdistan: see mine: http://paste.kde.org/278678 [13:57] yofel, damn that was real different [13:58] I added one [13:58] :P [13:59] yofel, http://paste.ubuntu.com/837840/ [13:59] it should like this? [13:59] Kurdistan, yofel: yes mine looks line yofel's too [13:59] I think yes [13:59] *like [13:59] thats wierd yours like different from mine [14:03] brb rebooting [14:03] and testing :) [14:06] yofel, your looks like a conf file [14:06] yours [14:11] it worked [14:11] like a charm [14:12] :) log out/login several time. np anymore. [14:12] schnelle, :) you fixed it. [14:12] for me this is "must do" for years ;) [14:12] schnelle, hehe okey. [14:14] i hope someone ( yofel :) ) get in touch with kdm devs, and if they say that "it is safe", kubuntu could ship this as default [14:15] there is no kdm channel on freenode [14:15] it seems... [14:18] schnelle, that would be wonderful if thats happens. [14:18] it seems to work perfect here [14:18] and I thought first it was nvidia driver bug [14:18] :P was hard against nvidia in there channel [14:20] Kurdistan: well, kdm + opensorce ati driver = logout never worked by default [14:20] gdm + ati driver = always worked [14:20] so i think it is kdm issue [14:20] schmidtm, okey. i think you have right. [14:20] it most be kdm issue [14:20] but i am totally noob about this, so i am just guessing... :) [14:21] Hi all, I think you're describing launchpad bug #651294 which is marked as fix released. [14:21] Launchpad bug 651294 in xorg-server (Ubuntu Maverick) "X crash on KDM logout (still - yes, really)" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/651294 [14:22] schnelle, :P not so noob if you could solve this. [14:22] But I have to make the kdm modification each time I installed Kubuntu. :o( [14:22] PaulW2U, mine problem is not really that x crashers. [14:22] paulW2U: me too [14:22] it is problem with rendering issue after login for gtk mainly and some qt [14:22] No I don't see a crash either but if you look at the duplicate reports ... [14:23] yes but the solution is the same: uncomment "TerminateServer=true" line [14:23] PaulW2U, will read. [14:24] PaulW2U, it is more a kdm bug then xorg-server I think. === rdieter_laptop is now known as rdieter [14:28] :( boring now I have only one bug left on my system. [14:28] that is application that are closed there icon still shows up. not always. [14:28] :( what should I do if that fixes also. [14:29] *panel bug [14:33] go install precise in a VM, although that works resonable well here.... [14:33] Kurdistan, that panel bug has been around since 11.04 on my pc [14:33] BluesKaj, yeah I know. :( [14:34] Kurdistan: it is Qt bug. There is a ppa with patched Qt: ppa:hrvojes/qt [14:34] upgrade qt from this ppa and panel bugs go away! :) [14:34] BluesKaj, it seems not effect ati user. my parents computer did not have that problem if I remenber right. [14:35] schnelle, does it work for you? [14:36] then we should apply that patch. [14:36] i wrote last night to kubuntu-devel last night and asked kubuntu-devs to include patches in precise [14:36] Kurdistan: it works perfect [14:36] schnelle, what was the response? [14:37] it should be in for precise [14:37] https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/kubuntu-devel/2012-February/005794.html [14:38] so, i am using patched qt from ppa:hrvojes/qt, and all panel bugs are gone [14:40] schmidtm, were is the patch? [14:41] kubuntu 12.04 will be bugg free for me. :) [14:43] read my message from kubuntu-devel (link above), i explained everything about patches there :) [14:44] schnelle, will read. [14:44] I am trying the patch [14:46] Kurdistan, ok, I have 2 pcs with nvidia , so didn't know it had to do with the nvidia module [14:46] when you upgrade qt from ppa:hrvojes/qt, you have to reboot [14:47] schnelle, will do. :) will only add ppa [14:48] reboot?! I'm tempted to throw !language at you.. [14:51] schnelle, will restart the laptop :). lets hope it fix the problem for me. [14:57] Riddell: oh awesome, I'll check it out on rekonq master ( re kde bug 238303) [14:57] KDE bug 238303 in http "gzip encoded files show encoded" [Normal,Resolved: fixed] http://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=238303 [14:58] schnelle, it works great. [14:59] Kurdistan: yay! :) for me only veromix plasmoid was broken after upgrade. so i removed it and then i reinstalled it. [15:00] no more panel bugs! :) [15:00] schnelle, thx again. [15:00] apachelogger: I believe that is by design [15:00] ( re rekonq making the back button available only after the page loads ) [15:01] whee deadlock in rekonq [15:02] and book [15:02] s/book/boom/ [15:02] shadeslayer meant: "and boom" [15:05] yofel: oh, right, I should upload that [15:05] shadeslayer: then the design is broken [15:05] page loading can take looong [15:05] apachelogger: then please tell that to the rekonq mailing list :) [15:05] lemme find the exact commit for you [15:09] hmm ... can't seem to find it, but I remember this was discussed somewhere [15:09] so where's the patch ?, all I get is links to other related bugs [15:10] BluesKaj, do you mean panel bugg? [15:11] you have the patches here: https://launchpad.net/~hrvojes/+archive/qt [15:11] Kurdistan, yes [15:11] sometimes launchpad is the most annoying page [15:12] BluesKaj, +1 [15:12] it fixed the problem for me. now even application launches faster [15:12] :) [15:18] Kurdistan, good , updgrading now [15:19] BluesKaj, restart your computer after. [15:20] logging out is probably enough... [15:20] probably [15:28] I hope every thing went good for blueskaj [15:34] BluesKaj, wb. [15:35] did the patch work you? it worked here. [15:36] yes , Kurdistan , schnelle ..works geat , thanks :) [15:37] great [15:37] BluesKaj, is only for me, or does application now open crazy fast? :) [15:38] most be the bug that made application load slower to pop up [15:39] :) it is so fast it feels to run lxde :P [15:40] afternoon guys. Anyone about? I think we have some problems on the latest set of updates. [15:41] yes Kurdistan , seems quite bit faster , especially system settings that used to take quite a while [15:41] I have 27 updates to put through, but apper is screaming about Unsigned packages, which I go to confirm that I want to download and install, I click yes - and it takes me back to the start of the install process and asks me the same question repeatedly, until i click no. [15:42] BluesKaj, exactly. even firefox loads crazy fast. [15:42] could be that the ppa has some preload stuff on too [15:42] This is what I get: "You are about to install unsigned packages that can compromise your system, as it is impossible to verify if the software came from a trusted source. Are you sure you want to proceed with the installation?" [15:43] if it's in our repositories, surely it's been put together with a signature, right? [15:43] BarkingFish, well, if you're on 12.04 , unsigned packages is probly the norm ...using a package manager with a dev OS is bound to give the package manager apps fits :) [15:43] I'm not though, I'm on 11.10 [15:43] I'm not upgrading till 12.04 is released [15:43] usually you shouldn't get unsigned warnings [15:44] I guess I need to install the remaining updates one by one, and find which one is unsigned... [15:44] file a bug againt apper somewhere and then check with apt-get update if you're missing some key [15:45] BarkingFish, have you upgrade to kde 4.8.0? [15:45] no, still on 4.7.4 [15:46] I don't see any updates to 4.8.0 [15:47] BarkingFish, does this help: sudo rm -rf /var/lib/apt/lists/* 2. sudo apt-get update 3. sudo apt-get upgrade [15:47] I'll tell you in a sec :) [15:50] BarkingFish, yppa manager is a good tool. it fixes a lot of stuff with repo and errors. [15:51] BarkingFish, https://launchpad.net/~webupd8team/+archive/y-ppa-manager [15:51] it works great with kubuntu [15:51] let me see how this goes first :D [15:52] just btw., this is the -dev channel, support is still in #kubuntu [15:52] * yofel is gone for a while [15:52] yofel, thats true. [15:52] I'm gonna go make some coffee, this is taking a while :) [15:52] BarkingFish, we can take it #kubuntu [15:54] I'll keep it here for now, thanks Kurdistan - if it does turn out to be an unsigned package, these guys will need to know which one [15:54] BarkingFish, okey. did it help anything? [15:55] It still wants to upgrade the remaining packages I didn't do in the one by one, so I have 23 to come down now [15:55] I'll see if doing the upgrade in a terminal flags anything up [15:57] I didn't realise the kernel had been updated too :) [15:57] this is gonna take some time. [16:00] will log out. take care all. === JackyAlcine is now known as Guest29620 [16:09] apachelogger: poke [16:33] hi [16:36] hi again guys, sorry about the long break. [16:37] Right, everything went through in the terminal upgrade, and it was only the same packages that apper was trying to work on. [16:37] So what I'm going to do is file a bug against apper, as suggested, and make sure that the KDE guys are aware that it's being a PITA. [16:45] oh this is fun. KDE's bug reporter won't submit my bug :) === bulldog98_home is now known as bulldog === bulldog is now known as bulldog98_home [16:56] Right, I've had to pass the bug to one of KDE's team to file, as the bugzilla won't submit my bug for some reason, I think the browser might be busted. [16:56] rindolf is going to try and file, and once he does, I'll paste the bug number in here [17:13] Ok guys, for the record - the apper bug is filed at KDE 293848 [17:13] KDE bug 293848 in general "Apper mistakenly flagging unsigned packages - won't allow installation" [Normal,Unconfirmed] http://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=293848 [17:16] anyone know who is upstream of libreoffice-kde? where to send feedback about that package? === bulldog98_home is now known as bulldog98 [17:31] right guys, I'm gonna scoot for a bit. See you all later. [17:57] EagleScreen: libreoffice [17:57] EagleScreen: what's the feedback btw.? [17:58] dropdown menus are ugly in KDE, they have no border [17:58] ah, true [18:01] Riddell: yup, that commit fixed the buildlog bug [18:01] huzzah [18:06] sweet [18:06] just needs rekonq packaged now :) [18:07] might as well do that, I'm done with gtk [18:07] or rather stuck on 2 mirs [18:07] yofel: pinged the mir team? [18:08] there are bugs filed and ubuntu-mir subscribed, anything else to do? [18:08] I doubt they'll do much on a weekend [18:10] shadeslayer: huh? [18:10] apachelogger: I was wondering how one disables Werror in CMake [18:11] apachelogger: but then cmake-qt-gui to the rescue [18:12] yofel: if you're there, can you check if the Telepathy Integration Module is running for you in kded? [18:12] * yofel adds telepathy back to the panel [18:14] I have an Instant Messaging Approver running, but no TIM [18:14] * BluesKaj waits patiently for rekonq flash crash fix :) [18:15] eeep [18:15] shadeslayer: if that's supposed to be in 'kde-telepathy-integration-module', that package is empty [18:15] yeah [18:15] yofel: fixing [18:15] * shadeslayer does not know how that slipped past [18:16] add proper long install files to the packages [18:16] otherwise that happens really easy [18:17] fffuuuuuu [18:17] yofel: yeah, install file was not renamed [18:17] bwahahaha [18:17] I lol'd [18:17] shadeslayer: why rename though? [18:17] apachelogger: telepathy-kde-foo to kde-telepathy-foo [18:18] apachelogger: following upstream changes [18:18] why does it have a name prefix though? [18:18] name prefix? [18:18] isn't telepathy using atomic tarballs? [18:18] I don't follow [18:18] foo.install rather than install [18:19] as in, why does it have the install file? [18:19] no [18:19] why does the install file have a prefix [18:22] apachelogger: I *really* don't understand what you're asking [18:22] perhaps you should RTFM then [18:22] then you will know what I mean [18:23] * shadeslayer brings up the new maintainers guide [18:23] I think you'll find that faster in the policy [18:23] the new maintainers guide is not the manual for debian/install :P [18:24] Mamarok: is there going to be dinner or am I to raid the fridge for booty? [18:24] I've never seen a debian/install file tbh [18:24] * apachelogger finds that hard to believe [18:25]