[03:06] <mhall119> I haven't seen anybody actually frustrated with Dodge being removed, just people who thought auto-hide was being removed.
[03:06] <mhall119> though personally I do miss it
[03:51] <imnichol> could someone explain to me what dodge is exactly?
[03:52] <imnichol> I'm running alpha2, and I haven't noticed any changes to the behavior
[10:19] <sbte> htorque_, how is the leak test coming along? :P
[10:20] <htorque_> sbte: needed the machine tonight, will start it shortly.
[10:20] <sbte> htorque_, ok
[10:21] <htorque_> sbte: i was told, that this one is not helpful: bug 930291 :-(
[10:23] <sbte> htorque_, well, it tells you that there's either a leak in glib or in some asynchronous callback
[10:23] <htorque_> which doesn't tell _me_ a lot :P
[10:23] <sbte> htorque_, it doesn't say anything really
[10:24] <sbte> just that there is a leak _somewhere_ :P
[10:25] <sbte> htorque_, but I'll see if I can spot the leak
[10:25] <sbte> brb
[10:53] <sbte> htorque, I think I found something
[11:01] <sbte> htorque, not sure if this is it, but maybe it helps: https://code.launchpad.net/~sbte/indicator-application/fix-memory-leak
[11:12] <htorque> sbte: \o/ will test once the compiz valgrind is done. :)
[11:13] <sbte> htorque, I'm not sure if it fixes your leak, but it fixes _some_ leak :P
[12:24] <sbte> ok, the staging ppa just totally broke my system
[12:41] <htorque> sbte: unity or compiz?
[12:42] <sbte> htorque, unity uninstalled itself and I can't install if back, because the right version of libnux is not present :P
[12:42] <htorque> ah !:-)
[14:53] <njin> bug 530596
[14:54] <njin> sorry bug 930596
[14:54] <njin> bug 930646
[15:33] <Debolaz> Anyone knows if the bug where Unity will always show the title of the last application shown, even when the application has been closed, is reported?
[15:33] <Debolaz> Launchpad seems to be a bit overloaded atm, so I can't search very effectively.
[15:38] <htorque_> sbte: i've finished the compiz valgrind (~1 meg leaks per hour) and the biggest item is again such a weird trace: http://paste.ubuntu.com/837930/
[15:39] <htorque_> the next in size is just 112kb. i'm wondering if i'm doing something wrong.
[15:39] <htorque_> that's how i run compiz:
[15:39] <htorque_> G_SLICE="always-malloc" G_DEBUG="gc-friendly" /usr/bin/valgrind -v --tool=memcheck --leak-check=full  --num-callers=50 --log-file=/tmp/valgrind.log /usr/bin/compiz.real
[15:46] <sbte> htorque, no, it's not your fault
[15:46] <sbte> and I might have even found that leak
[15:46] <sbte> but I don't understand dbus too well...
[15:49] <freijon> hey. I'm developing an app which uses libappindicator. everything works fine when using unity. when I switch to gnome-shell, the indicator is displayed in the bottom right, but the icon is not displayed. is this an issue of libappindicator or gnome-shell?
[16:09] <AlanBell> anyone know what Unity.LauncherEntry.get_for_app_uri(uri) is expecting as a URI?
[16:14] <htorque_> sbte: off for today, but starting your indicator-application branch for testing. good luck fixing all the other leaks! ;-)
[16:15] <sbte> htorque, ok, just spam me any leaks you find, no matter how small they are :P
[16:15] <sbte> cya
[16:16] <AlanBell> are you working on leaks of nux objects left behind by the unity compiz plugin?
[16:19] <njin> bug 930683
[16:20] <AlanBell> njin: works for me
[16:20] <njin> AlanBell: have you followed the described steps?
[16:21] <AlanBell> yes, bunch of apps open, switch to an empty workspace, alt tab, see other stuff to switch to, let go and it swooshes over to the main workspace and focusses the app I selected
[16:23] <njin> AlanBell, don't work for me
[16:23] <JanC> it probably depends on what application switcher plugin you are using
[16:24] <njin> termenal and firefox
[16:24] <njin> terminal
[16:24] <JanC> I mean what compiz "application switcher" plugin
[16:24] <AlanBell> I am using the standard unity switcher which to be fair, is pretty broken, but works in this instance
[16:25] <njin> I'm testing compiz beta1
[16:25] <AlanBell> huh?? what version of ubuntu are you using?
[16:25] <njin> precise
[16:26] <AlanBell> ok, and you are using unity 5.2?
[16:26] <JanC> AlanBell: logically it will work, as it always pollutes Alt-Tab with every irrelevant app you don't want to see there  ;)
[16:26] <JanC> (but you already said it's broken)
[16:26] <AlanBell> and raises all windows of a certain app, even if you only want one of them
[16:26] <AlanBell> yeah, it is broken :)
[16:28] <njin> yes, 5.2
[16:28] <JanC> njin: did you change anything with ccsm?
[16:29] <njin> JanC, no not installed
[16:29] <JanC> i.e., do you have the same issues with a clean user profile?
[16:29] <AlanBell> bug 861250 is targetted at unity 5.4 so there is hope, will that make it to feature freeze?
[16:29] <njin> yes, nothing changed
[16:30] <AlanBell> yeah, looks like that should squeeze into FF
[16:34] <njin> No, isn't a dup, is really broken, it works correctly from a focused app but not from an empty workspace
[16:35] <AlanBell> yeah, I appreciate you are describing something different, but I can't reproduce it
[16:35] <njin> 0.9.7.0-beta1
[16:37] <AlanBell> that your compiz version?
[16:37]  * AlanBell thinks 0.9.6 is in precise
[16:38] <AlanBell> just updating now, but I don't see a compiz update in the list
[16:40] <njin> AlanBell, is didrocks ppa, sudo add-apt-repository ppa:didrocks/ppa then sudo update/dist-upgrade
[16:41] <njin> works, but buggy
[16:43] <njin> there is a testing request for this
[17:17] <AlanBell> if I set up a dbus signal receiver with bus.add_signal_receiver how do I remove it again when I am done with it?
[17:25] <AlanBell> hacked around it
[17:26] <AlanBell> if you run this: http://people.ubuntu.com/~alanbell/sanity.py in python you should get reasonably functional window quicklists
[17:26] <AlanBell> would appreciate comments and thoughts
[17:26] <AlanBell> code is likely to be a bit rubbish, it is my first ever go with dbus and signals and stuff
[18:38] <jussi> mhall119: ping
[18:38] <ingwa> General question:
[18:39] <ingwa> Will apps developed for unity be done using a specific toolkit?
[18:39] <ingwa> and follow some specific interface design guidelins?
[18:43] <AlanBell> ingwa: anything with a .desktop file can go in the launcher
[18:44] <ingwa> admittedly my knowledge of unity is sketchy at best
[18:45] <AlanBell> http://developer.ubuntu.com/ has some guidance, but really the Gnome HIG is probably what you are after http://developer.gnome.org/hig-book/3.0/
[18:45] <ingwa> but I heard that unity is targeted for not only standard PC's but also tablets.  That would make the Gnome HIG pretty obsolete, wouldn't it?
[18:46] <AlanBell> yes, it would be nice to have a unity HIG
[18:47] <ingwa> The reason I'm asking is that I am thinking of porting something to unity and I would like to know what's expected of the port.
[18:50] <ingwa> AlanBell: anything like that in the works?
[18:52] <AlanBell> not sure
[18:56] <ingwa> Is there anything at all that talks about unity apps on a tablet?
[18:56] <ingwa> (Is there anything that talks about unity itself on tablets, btw?)
[19:01] <AlanBell> ingwa: might be best asking that on a weekday
[19:01] <AlanBell> there are a number of things right now which I guess don't work so well on tablets, although the recent change to the launcher is a good thing I think
[19:03] <AlanBell> ingwa: http://developer.ubuntu.com/resources/platform/documentation/ some stuff on multitouch and gestures there
[19:04] <ingwa> thanks
[20:02] <JanC> ingwa: I think the GNOME HIG is still pretty relevant, even it it would need some changes for tablets, unity, and such
[20:03] <JanC> if it
[21:23] <ingwa> JanC: OK