yofelBarkingFish: commit message was: fix use-after-free bug in my patch00:00
Kurdistanyofel, thats great. :)00:00
BarkingFishhm. I hadn't spotted anything wrong, seriously. Guess I need to brush up a bit.00:00
yofelI've looked at it, but it's not easy to read a diff of a diff00:00
BarkingFishI'll take your word for it :)00:01
Kurdistan:) why when apply a patch/diff some time output is garbage? 00:02
BarkingFishI have no idea. However, I do know it's just gone midnight here, so I'm gonna go finish knitting my scarf and go to bed.  See you guys tomorrow, sorry for the short stay but I'm tired.00:03
BarkingFishbbfn guys00:04
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Kurdistanany one awake?01:09
Kurdistansome one with packing skills. 01:09
yofelnot for long thoug01:12
Kurdistanyofel, I can make package, but how if the thing I wanted to build does not have debian folder01:14
Kurdistanwith all neccesery stuff01:14
yofelrunning 'dh_make' will make an intial folder with the files in it, but you'll still need to know how to make it work in the end01:15
Kurdistanyofel, thats the thing.01:16
Kurdistanbecause normally when I take from source01:16
KurdistanI have already debian folder and I know how to modify to get it work01:17
Kurdistandh_make will it give empty rules01:17
yofelhm, yeah, initial packaging can be tricky, see the ubuntu packaging guide or the debian new maintainers guide on how to make a package01:17
yofelor ping me tomorrow, I'm too tired now01:18
Kurdistanyofel, :) I will bing you tomorrow. have nice sleep.01:18
yofeldh_make will add the files not totally empty, but still not in a state that works out of the box I think01:18
yofel+ it adds a lot of files that you won't need01:18
Kurdistanyofel, okey :) I will chatt with you about this tomorrow.01:19
Kurdistanthx again for your time yofel 01:19
Kurdistanif I learn this I can help kubuntu much more01:19
Kurdistanbasic packing I know01:19
Kurdistankernel compile to01:20
* Kurdistan is going to sleep. bed time. have nice evening/day channel.01:26
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Riddellhi grmls 09:16
grmlshi riddell09:17
grmlsi have an question. yesterday i found a bug by installing kubuntu oem dvd amd64. this bug recorded in launchpad but why is this bug not recorded in http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/milestones/206/builds/11115/testcases/81/results. whats my mistake? (sry for my bad english)09:21
Riddellgrmls: we did not test oem for alpha 209:25
Riddelllack of time/volunteers.  so if there's a bug that's very useful for you to have found09:25
Riddellwhat's the number?09:25
Riddellbug 93074109:27
ubottuLaunchpad bug 930741 in ubiquity (Ubuntu) "installing kubuntu, change keyboard layout in braile" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/93074109:27
Riddellyeah I didn't even test keyboard changes09:28
Riddellmilestoned for beta so we don't forget it09:29
grmlsoh im new. i dont need test oem in alpha 2? so i try better a other iso 09:30
Riddellgrmls: we should have tested it yes, and if we'd had enough testers we would have09:35
Riddellso it's very good you testing it now and finding bugs09:35
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grmlsis there an iso with high preference?09:39
Riddellgrmls: ?  whatever can do and isn't already much tested is what we want from iso testing09:43
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grmlshi yofel11:06
debfxScottK: what's the workaround for the bug you posted on kubuntu-devel?11:10
debfxyay I can logout again11:15
debfxthanks yofel for sharing that workaround :)11:16
yofelsure :)11:16
debfxwe definitely need to enable that11:17
yofelas apachelogger said, enabling that shortly before final freeze is probably best11:18
yofelalthough I would turn it off again once Q opens up11:18
debfxit has been broken for a few releases so imho there is no point in waiting11:42
yofelwell, I added myself a TODO item for this so I don't forget about it11:43
Kurdistanhi channel12:19
BluesKaj'morning all13:31
KurdistanBluesKaj, morning.13:31
BluesKajhi Kurdistan13:31
Kurdistannm widget buttons looks good now13:31
Kurdistan:) backport updates yesterday fixed it.13:32
BluesKajok, no NM in my system , so I din't know the widget was broken 13:33
KurdistanBluesKaj, what are you using?13:33
Kurdistankde network manager?13:33
yofelhe's not even using network manager13:34
BluesKaj no, /etc/network/interfaces file and /etc/resolv.conf 13:34
yofelme neither on my desktop13:34
KurdistanBluesKaj, server?13:34
BluesKajKurdistan,  there's no need for NM on an ethernet connection , well mostly 13:35
KurdistanBluesKaj, I see.13:35
KurdistanI am using laptop :).13:35
BluesKajok , if you have any desktop ethernet nics then this example is one of the tutorials I used,  http://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/setting-up-an-network-interfaces-file/13:38
apacheloggerdebfx, yofel: turning it on now will potentially prevent more annoying bug reports to the broken products13:40
BluesKajyofel,  I see /etc/resolv.conf is now overwritten by /etc/resolvconf/resolv.conf.d/head ... why the change? , altho i found a workaround by adding my dns settings to the "head" file which in turn transfers them to /etc/resolv.conf 13:47
debfxthe potential of it being fixed is very minimal however13:47
KurdistanBluesKaj, I like the widget.13:48
yofelBluesKaj: from what I read about it, ubuntu is trying to unity resolv.conf editing and now uses resolvconf by default13:48
yofelthat's all I know13:48
BluesKajKurdistan,  well, to each his own :) 13:48
BluesKajyofel,  it does prevent ppl from screwing up their resolv.conf thereby losing their internet connection , it makes some sense alright13:51
Kurdistanwhy is kmail always buggy when I try?13:56
KurdistanI feel kubuntu could change out some qt stuff for like thunderbird13:57
Kurdistanand firefox instead of rekonq13:57
yofelno, we discussed that often enough. For 12.04 we're not switching anything.13:59
Kurdistanyofel, okey. still kmail have always been buggy.14:05
Kurdistankmail if it was not buggy it is really good.14:05
yofelno, it has been buggy since it started using akonadi to be precise14:05
yofelkmail1 was great14:06
Kurdistanyofel, I started with kde in real with kde 4.6.514:06
Kurdistanso I am not so :) well known how it was before14:06
yofeldoing LTS upgrade testing with kdepim is going to be so not funny...14:06
Kurdistanyofel, :).14:08
* BluesKaj avoids kmail/kontact and disables akonadi ..have no need for it since my ISP contracted my email service out to hotmail anyway so I just use webmils like bell mail and gmail14:21
BluesKajkrusader does for me what nepomuk does for ohers , but it's not as invasiv14:22
apacheloggerdebfx: the more annoyance the higher the likelyhood gets :)14:31
BluesKajfor those of you whao are having GPG key errors , here's a neat little app/ppa that will help get the missing keys a rid you of the error messages ..it's probly been posted befoe but I think it needs reposting , http://www.webupd8.org/2010/05/automatically-import-all-missing.html 14:43
ScottKdebfx: Sorry.  I thought it was in the bug.14:46
ScottKdebfx: Added to the bug: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-release-notes/+bug/641712/comments/2414:49
ubottuUbuntu bug 641712 in kde-workspace (Ubuntu) "Not possible to enter password for a new user in KDM (Maverick, Natty and Oneiric)" [High,Confirmed]14:49
debfxthose options look a bit more scary14:55
apacheloggeryofel: kmail works fine here14:55
yofelapachelogger: not for me14:56
yofelScottK: I'll look at them and talk to ossi later14:56
yofeldebfx: or do you want to?14:56
apacheloggerdid someone upload kde-hud btw?14:57
ScottKyofel: Thanks.14:57
yofelapachelogger: I made some test package that I never tried, no idea if someone else did something14:58
ScottKdebfx: I've been using them since at least maverick with no issue.  Unless someone has an alternative solution, I think it's likely a better default because the password change thing is a rather common problem to have.14:58
ScottKBut I'm not sure, which is why I'm glad yofel is going to talk to ossi.14:59
apacheloggerScottK: it can lead to weird issues when external windows/widgets come into play15:01
apacheloggere.g. different auth plugins15:01
apacheloggeror onscreen kbds15:02
ScottKHow common is that compared to just wanting to set a password for a new user.15:02
ScottKI agree it's not ideal.15:02
apacheloggerwhich is why  want a qml greeter15:02
apacheloggerso the entire we-have-to-manage-windows-but-have-no-window-manager situation can be avoided15:02
BluesKajapachelogger, so hud is available 15:06
BluesKajapachelogger,  I thought it was only available in gnome/unity15:07
apacheloggerthere is a prototype using krunner15:07
BluesKajhud that is15:07
debfxyofel: won't complain if you do it :)15:10
yofelI'll do it then ^^15:10
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apacheloggerdebfx: whatever happend to synl10n in pkg-kde-tools?16:05
apacheloggerDarkwing: whatever happend with starship troopers?16:07
tsimpsonthey made a terrible sequel...16:08
* BluesKaj wonders how a pangolin can be precise ...methinks canonical needs consierably more logic in the OS name choices...talk about lame :)16:13
kubotuyofel: You did something wrong... Try s/you/me/ or tell me "help sed"16:14
apacheloggerwho is this sabdfl?16:27
yofelsomeone who's favorite color seems to be orange16:41
jussi!sabdfl 16:43
ubottuMark "sabdfl" Shuttleworth is our favourite cosmonaut, the founder of Canonical and the primary driver behind Ubuntu. You can find pieces of his thinking at http://www.markshuttleworth.com16:43
jussiapachelogger: he is yur overlord...16:43
apacheloggernever seen him here16:45
Tm_Thmmm kubuntu_remove_startkde_cruft.diff16:59
Tm_Twhat is that about?16:59
yofelwhere did you find that?17:00
Tm_Tkde-workspace apparently17:01
Tm_Tsee the conversation, especially the bottom of it here https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=18314317:01
ubottuKDE bug 183143 in kcm_randr "Display Settings are Lost on Logout" [Normal,Reopened]17:01
Tm_Tthey are not lost, just not applied17:02
Tm_Tapachelogger: you have never seen sabdfl here? seriously?17:03
yofel~seen sabdfl17:03
kubotusabdfl was last seen 7 months, 3 days, 3 hours, 43 minutes and 11 seconds ago, quitting IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer)17:03
yofelnot in a while ^^17:03
Tm_Tnot in a while != never (;17:03
Tm_Tyofel: that packaging and patches should be here, right? https://code.launchpad.net/~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-packaging/kde-workspace17:07
yofelyeah, found it17:07
Tm_TI wonder if that bug could be fixed, so I finally can reboot my work laptop (:17:09
Tm_Thaven't tried that fix there yet17:09
yofelTm_T: are you on oneiric or precise?17:10
Tm_Tall was fine before that upgrade17:10
yofelk, I'll make a quick test package with that patch disabled17:10
Tm_TI believe that patch cannot apply cleanly anyway on 4.8.017:10
yofelwell, it does17:10
Tm_T"apply on startup" should be true I suppose17:11
Tm_Tas (not) applying the config is the problem17:11
yofeler no, all we do is remove the lines, so if I remove the patch it'll be false17:13
yofelbut I guess the lines below are needed17:13
Tm_Tit's all a mess if you ask me in overall, so what works and what not is hard to figure out without testing /:17:14
debfxapachelogger: what's that?17:23
apacheloggerdebfx: a target that would update our kde-l10n copy scripts17:25
bulldog98Tm_T: I’ve got a patch that could be included17:27
bulldog98into kde-workopace17:27
Tm_Tbulldog98: tested one?17:27
debfxaha, well gone with the rest of translation stripping17:27
bulldog98Tm_T: my own17:27
yofelbulldog98: which is?17:28
Tm_Tbulldog98: yes but is it tested?17:28
Tm_Tand what it is supposed to fix exactly (:17:28
bulldog98yofel: it’s a patch I wrote yesterday to fix tiling with activities17:28
yofelwe can cherry pick that after review17:29
yofelTm_T: are you on amd64 or i38617:30
Tm_TI wonder if I can test that randr issue at home any sensible way17:32
Tm_Tah, yes17:32
shadeslayer_yofel: Tm_T stop calling it amd64, the politically correct term is x86_64 :(17:36
yofelI know, tell that launchpad17:36
yofeland dpkg17:36
shadeslayer_I usually get queries like " Oh I have a Intel CPU, will this ISO install on my PC?"17:37
yofeloh yeah17:38
shadeslayer_dpkg uses amd64 as well?17:38
yofelwell, yeah: xz-utils_5.1.1alpha+20110809-3_amd64.deb17:38
yofelblame ia64 for that naming17:38
shadeslayer_apachelogger: plz2comment on http://bugs.kde.org/attachment.cgi?id=6873217:39
ubottuKDE bug 293030 in KDE4 (cmake) "po files do not build due to cmake error - FindGettext cmake bug" [Normal,Reopened]17:39
shadeslayer_specifically comment 517:40
apacheloggershadeslayer_: what am I to comment|?17:42
shadeslayer_apachelogger: explain what you tried to explain to me a couple of days ago :P17:42
apacheloggeralex already explained why this does not work17:43
apacheloggerwhich is what I said, not a bug17:43
apacheloggersimply a policy decision17:43
shadeslayer_*shrug* 17:44
Tm_Tyofel: nah, removing or adjusting the patch makes no difference here17:44
shadeslayer_not well enough to dive into CMake ....17:44
Tm_Tyofel: kde desktop has always native resolution no matter what saved settings say17:44
yofelso even adding those lines to /usr/bin/startkde it still doesn't work?17:45
Tm_Tthis is not funny17:45
Tm_Tyofel: yup17:45
yofelwell, I found another issue while looking at this, so thanks for poking anyway..17:46
shadeslayer_is that a IE ad in the Ubuntu HUD video on OMGUbuntu17:46
Kurdistanshadeslayer_, hud will be cooler with kde17:48
Kurdistankrunner plugin are working progress17:48
shadeslayer_Most of the stuff shown is already doable with krunner17:48
shadeslayer_Also, stuff like setting a IM message by using the HUD is what I proposed last year 17:49
shadeslayer_being able to chat with online contacts etc stuff like that17:50
shadeslayer_directly from krunner17:50
Kurdistankrunner rules17:50
Kurdistanwhat happend to fat fast setting or something like that17:52
Kurdistanto run kubuntu with low specs17:52
apacheloggershadeslayer_: you could like totally upload kde-hud17:53
yofelTm_T: it does seem like the patch was re-enabled on accident though17:53
apacheloggerto some ppa17:53
yofelit was disabled in 4.717:54
shadeslayer_apachelogger: meta package that pulls in KDE? :P17:54
* yofel still hasn't found out where that patch came from in the first place17:54
apacheloggeryofel: please inform shadeslayer_ about kde-hud17:54
apacheloggeror afiestas17:54
apacheloggeror someone17:55
shadeslayer_apachelogger: ah that, the search thing from help menu's?17:55
shadeslayer_I saw that last year17:55
shadeslayer_but then no one made any progress :(17:55
* yofel is still digging through the forest of workspace patches17:56
superflykrunner is awesome once you disable a couple of the plugins... most notable the nepomuk one.17:56
Kurdistansuperfly, +117:57
yofelgreat, where's jonthetaco when you need him17:57
yofel  * Add kubuntu_72_remove_startkde_cruft.diff to remove test for a setting in17:57
yofel    kcmrandrrc that doesn't exist anymore. (KDE expects krandrtray to handle17:57
yofel    resolution setting on startup now...)17:57
yofelTm_T: do you have krandrtray running?17:58
* superfly won't talk about the big mess that is Kontact/Akonadi17:58
apacheloggeryofel: what's the question?17:58
apachelogger<-- rewrote startkde in cpp once, just for the sake of seeing if it was any faster17:59
apacheloggerit was not :P17:59
yofelapachelogger: https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=183143 which people claim is our fault17:59
ubottuKDE bug 183143 in kcm_randr "Display Settings are Lost on Logout" [Normal,Reopened]17:59
yofelwhich might very well be the case17:59
yofelmore like the current patch doesn't do what the original one was supposed to do18:00
apacheloggerlemme enter markey18:00
yofelRiddell: you don't by chance remember why you re-enabled that?18:01
apacheloggeryofel: utter rubbish18:04
apacheloggeryofel: the kcm does not even write those lines18:04
apacheloggeronly startupcommand thingy18:04
yofelwell, why is that in startkde then?18:04
apacheloggerso the startkde rubbish is still crap and actually should be removed upstream18:04
apacheloggerI wonder why we did not remove it back when the patch was introduced18:04
apacheloggeryofel: because no one in kde gives a shit about display settings...18:05
apacheloggerwhich is why it does not work to begin with18:05
yofelgo tell them then18:05
apacheloggerI am doing phonon QA18:05
yofelI'm utterly confused by now18:05
apacheloggeralso afiestas is doing fixy fixy for that stuff anyway18:05
yofeluhm, ok, after taking a quick glance, yeah, krandr is a mess...18:10
apacheloggertake kephal into the picture and you'll start crying :P18:12
Kurdistanhave nice day every one. going to log out. 18:15
Kurdistanyofel, thx again. 18:15
yofelhm, no, removing the patch doesn't work here either18:27
apacheloggeru no trust me? :O18:28
* yofel is speechless after reading kstartupconfig/kstartupconfig.c18:52
yofelactually, calling this an utter mess is an understatement19:13
yofelafter looking at this for over an hour I *still* have no idea what is *supposed* to set the resolution at login19:14
apacheloggeryofel: nothing19:29
apacheloggerthe only reasonable way right now would krandrtray in autostart19:29
apacheloggerwhich worked for some time19:29
apacheloggerbut is broken now19:29
apacheloggergod knows why19:29
yofelyeah, I'm reading the comments now and will post a request for someone to explain this to me19:29
yofelas I've given up on this19:30
yofelwhat SANE C code in the world uses goto?!?19:30
shadeslayer_yofel: pretty much all of it19:35
* shadeslayer_ hates goto19:35
shadeslayer_I was reading libnice code and it has goto's all over the place to handle error conditions19:36
yofelwell, feel free to read kstartupconfig.c - that is a perfect example for unmaintainable code19:36
shadeslayer_nah thanks, I'm having a field day with glib threads19:36
shadeslayer_I have a trivial problem in my code, can't figure it out19:37
shadeslayer_yofel: https://gist.github.com/1803805 < Some sane C code19:37
yofelwill look at it in a bit19:37
shadeslayer_and even that uses goto19:38
BarkingFishevening all :)19:49
BarkingFishHi dantti :D19:49
shadeslayer_I'm off to sleep, cya19:50
BarkingFishbbfn shadeslayer_ 19:50
BarkingFishhave a good night.19:50
* apachelogger dances in the kitchen20:23
apacheloggeryofel: goto is the single most useful feature of C20:23
apacheloggerparticularly in kstartupconfig, cause as you might have noticed, it is tuned towards performance :P20:24
yofelit saves... what? a tenth of a second?20:25
apacheloggerdepends on why it is used20:26
apacheloggerfor example in my OS I have plenty of goto to work around missing scoped pointers20:26
apacheloggerif you collapse code into one function you almost always have to use goto20:27
apacheloggerotherwise it would become unreadable20:27
yofelfix gcc instead20:33
apacheloggerit's just a jump to the left20:43
Darkwingapachelogger: Ummmm...20:47
yofelTm_T: can you see if you have this? https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=183143#c10321:12
ubottuKDE bug 183143 in kcm_randr "Display Settings are Lost on Logout" [Normal,Reopened]21:12
apacheloggerI lol'd21:18
apacheloggeryofel: someone clearly updated the patch to break stuff21:18
yofelRiddell did it while merging from debian for 4.7.321:19
yofelI'm dropping the patch21:19
apacheloggeryofel: ack21:20
CIA-42[lp:~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-packaging/kde-workspace] Philip Muškovac * 614 * debian/ (4 files in 2 dirs) * Drop kubuntu_remove_startkde_cruft.diff as it breaks krandrstartup * Refresh kubuntu_startkde_set_country.diff21:26
apacheloggermarkey, Mamarok: ^21:31
apacheloggeryofel: that done ... krandrtray still does not apply the setting as expected21:31
yofeltelling krandr to save the settings as default and dopping the patch did work on my eeepc21:33
apacheloggerbut krandrtray is not compatible with that :P21:34
yofelwell, *that* isn't our fault ^^21:34
apacheloggerjust saying21:34
Riddellyofel: mm no sorry, it's quite possible I messed up on the randr stuff when merging22:53
apacheloggerRiddell: no worries, that was not immediately obvious23:02
yofelnah, we should've completely removed it in the first place23:05
Kurdistanhi. is it only for me but when I boot up, kmix start up later then all other widgets?23:13
Kurdistannoticeable delay23:14
ScottKNew python-qt4 and sip4 packaged in Debian.  I'll sync them tomorrow.23:34
Riddellthanks ScottK 23:35
apacheloggerwhich reminds me that I have to do some pyth0rn haxx0ring tomorrow \o/23:35
ScottKI uploaded qscintialla2 earlier today.23:36
ScottK(it was a merge)23:36
apacheloggerand that reminds me that jockey-kde does not work properly for me23:36

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