[01:23] <calamari> hi. I'd like to add a desktop switcher to the panel in 11.10. I think this is called the "pager"? So I chose Add Widgets, then click and hold the Pager. The cursor turns into a hand, and I drag it down, some places it has a red "no" circle, so I found a spot near the application launcher where the red circle went away, then released my mouse button. I was expecting to see the pager, but instead there is nothing. I tried the same proced
[01:23] <calamari> ure on the "CPU Monitor", and that worked for that widget. Is my procedure correct? If so, what is wrong?
[01:43] <ubuntu> canal de ubuntu español
[01:44] <tsimpson> !es | ubuntu
[02:15] <calamari> does anyone here have a desktop pager? if so, how did you add it?
[02:25] <calamari> the mouse cursor keeps reverting to the oxygen theme. can I delete the oxygen cursor somehow to force it to stop being retarded?
[02:26] <calamari> btw am I in the right channel to ask questions? I have asked a bunch and have been completely ignored
[02:51] <Snowhog> calamari: Adding the Pager widget is simple. With it identified, just double-click it and it will be put on to the Panel.
[02:57] <calamari> Snowhog: thanks. when I do that, I see my clock move to the left slightly each time I double click
[02:59] <calamari> Snowhog: is there a user editable file that shows the contents of the panel? I suspect I have a ton of pagers added
[03:15] <Bsims> lol answered my own question
[03:20] <Bsims> I got a movie, its not showing up when I put it in my dvd drive but another one does any ideas
[03:21] <DarthFrog> They put the wrong movie in the DVD case?
[03:21] <Bsims> DarthFrog: its a screen printed rental
[03:21] <Bsims> I just updated to Oneric
[03:23] <Bsims> Grr this sucks it won't even try to autodetect it I know they ground on it before giving it to me
[03:25] <DasKreech> !dvd
[03:25]  * Bsims laughs and declares jihad against family video
[03:25] <Bsims> DasKreech: At Ease, it works perfectly with everything else gonna assume their disk grinder borked something
[03:32] <Bsims> got a minor beef, why are all the icons on kde-look childish or look like sponsor stickers on a clown car?
[03:33] <Bsims> oxygen isn't bad but lord is it ugly
[03:33] <Bsims> heh well the popular ones
[03:40] <DasKreech> Follow the crowd?
[03:40] <DasKreech> look for unpopular ones then :)
[03:43] <Bsims> DasKreech: I'd like the oxygen from 3.0 era
[03:45] <calamari> solved it! had to go to "workspace behavior" and found that there was only one workspace. Increased that 4 to 4 and my multitude of pagers instantly appeared on the panel
[03:45] <calamari> *from 1 to 4
[03:45] <DasKreech> Bsims: hmm? which 3.0 era ?
[03:46] <DasKreech> calamari: Ah right some widgets go invisible if they are not needed from KDE 4.7 on
[03:47] <Bsims> 3.4ish
[03:47] <Bsims> tried installing the 3.0 something oxygen set and its using the new ones
[03:48] <DasKreech> I suppose you could just pull up the git history and use those
[03:48] <DasKreech> Probably tagged
[03:51] <Bsims> Nope now if I could get pidgin to show a icon in the system tray I'd be all set
[03:54] <Bsims> anyone know how I can get pidgin to show a icon in the system tray? it worked till I rebooted
[03:54] <JamesBozman> When launching Ktimetracker,
[03:59] <JamesBozman> When launching Ktimetracker, I get an error: Unable to launch Ktimetracker part.  It did this in 11.10.  Now running 12.04 thinking it might be fixed.  I see there is a bug open at  https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kdepim/+bug/864975 .   I would like to know how to get Ktimetracker running.
[04:15] <Snowhog> calamari: I was thinking that you might have had the virtual desktops set to 1. Glad you figured it out for yourself.
[04:47] <Bsims> Ok I'll bite, how do I remove an icon set from system settings
[04:48] <Snowhog> Bsims: System Settings > Application Appearance > Icons and select the one you dont want and click on Remove Theme and then on Apply
[04:49] <Bsims> I installed a older version of oxygen... and it overwrote the existing oxygen in system settings and for some unholy reason oxygen iconset is a core kde dependency I tried to reinstall it with no joy
[04:49] <Bsims> Snowhog: I am assuming right click on it
[04:49] <Bsims> that does nothing
[04:49] <Bsims> upgraded from natty
[04:50] <Bsims> I am two inches from nuking the entire .kde and let it make it from scratch
[04:51] <calamari> oh great.. opening deluge under kde wiped all my torrents
[04:51] <calamari> that doesn't make me happy lol
[04:55] <calamari> looks like I need to ditch deluge, that's totally unacceptable
[05:03] <calamari> does audacious work for anyone?
[05:05] <mr-rich> audacity?
[05:16] <calamari> mr-rich: nope
[06:08] <viyils> holas
[06:08] <viyils> ahi gatos ??
[06:13] <galvao> I've just used KDE Partition manager to delete an External HD partition so I could recreate it in ext4, but right after I've done that the sound in my Kubuntu 11.10 is gone. Is that a known issue or did I screw something up in here?
[06:13] <galvao> I'm affraid to reboot to find out that I've wiped my Notebook's HDD by mistake or something like that...
[06:29] <Guest87452> galvao: hi
[06:30] <galvao> Guest87452: hi
[06:30] <Guest87452> galvao: What happened?
[06:31] <galvao> I've deleted a partition in my external HD and created a new one with full size, primary, ext4 so I can back up my files. Right after I've done that my sound disappeared
[06:33] <galvao> I've deleted from /dev/sdb, which is my external HD (my main HD is sda), so I'm pretty sure I didn't do anything wrong, but then again why do I have no sound? It's scary...
[06:34] <galvao> if I run KDE Partition Manager again the sound comes back specifically for the application notifications, but as soon as I close it the sound goes away again...
[06:40] <galvao> anyway, I'll back everything up right now, so ... later!
[06:43] <Guest87452> strange bug :-/
[08:15] <akis> hi all. I saw that there is availabe a 12.04 version for cd or dvd. cd ver is just over 700 mb. dvd is almost 3,5 gb.does any one know what is the difference between cd and dvd version iso?
[08:25] <akis> ?
[08:51] <Xcross44> Hy!
[08:52] <Xcross44> How can I create an Ad-hoc wireless network in Kubuntu 11.10? Please help!
[08:57] <[HUN]Xcross44> Anyone knows?
[09:01] <[HUN]Xcross44> so again...ow can I create an Ad-hoc wireless network in Kubuntu 11.10? Please help!
[09:01] <[HUN]Xcross44> How can I create an Ad-hoc wireless network in Kubuntu 11.10?
[09:03] <sirdeiu> [HUN]Xcross44: see here  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Internet/ConnectionSharing#Wireless_Ad-Hoc_connection_sharing_scenario
[09:04] <[HUN]Xcross44> sirdeiu Thank You!
[09:05] <sirdeiu> [HUN]Xcross44: np
[09:07] <[HUN]Xcross44> There is no such button: "Create wireless network" :)
[09:08] <sirdeiu> click Manage Connections
[09:08] <sirdeiu> the go to Wireless then Add
[09:08] <sirdeiu> then go from there
[09:10] <[HUN]Xcross44> okok, köszi!
[09:10] <[HUN]Xcross44> or thanks! :)
[09:13] <sirdeiu> sivesen or how it's spelled :)
[09:13] <[HUN]Xcross44> :)
[09:14] <[HUN]Xcross44> "szívesen" :)
[09:15] <[HUN]Xcross44> It works(Ad-hoc WiFi)! Thank you very much! :)
[09:15] <sirdeiu> yeah :)
[09:15] <sirdeiu> good job :)
[09:15] <sirdeiu> what are you pairing (ad hoc ) ?
[09:16] <[HUN]Xcross44> pc <-> mobile phone
[09:38] <[HUN]Xcross44>  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xRVMtBaE3dk :)
[10:15] <saille> hi, i have a kubuntu 11.10 system and a brother mfc-240c printer with scanner, the printer works fine but the scanner doesnt work, and i installed it like it is descriped here: http://welcome.solutions.brother.com/bsc/public_s/id/linux/en/download_scn.html
[10:18] <robin0800> saille: did you do all the prerequisites as well?
[10:20] <saille> robin0800: yes
[10:21] <saille> but it could be that i installed sane-utils after i installed the scanner driver, could that be a problem? but i removed the scanner driver and installed it new...
[10:23] <robin0800> saille: think you have to edit sothing in linux to make sure the scanner is detected
[10:24] <saille> i think so too, but sane-find-scanner found the scanner, but scanimage -L said, that there is no scanner, and im also in the group "scanner"
[10:26] <robin0800> saille: the instructions are on the brother site I've got a 250 and was able to get it to work but it was fiddly
[10:29] <saille> what means ii and rc in the output of dpkg -l | grep Brother?
[10:31] <robin0800> saille: essentially you have to manually add your scanner into the list of scanners sane knows about these instructions are on the web site
[10:31] <saille> how do i do that?
[10:32] <robin0800> saille: sorry no internet here can,t gey
[10:32] <robin0800> saille: sorry no internet here can,t get page for you
[10:33] <saille> no internet but irc? oO
[10:35] <saille> but i know that the scanner works with linux, cuz on the old pc it was no problem
[10:35] <saille> but the laptop doesnt want to work with the scanner or there are big difference between 32bit and 64 bit
[10:37] <saille> robin0800: MFC-240C 	USB 	0x04f9/0x01ab 	Good 	Reportedly working.
[10:55] <robin0800> saille: yes on a mobile broadband dongle with no 3g or higher phone signal available
[11:14] <skramer_> hello, anybody here who knows how to play .mp4 videos in Kubuntu?
[11:15] <skramer_> clicking the file opens Dragon Player, but the video does not show
[11:16] <robin0800> skramer_: vlc would be my choice can practically play anything
[11:17] <skramer_> robin0800: ok, so I´ll try that. Thanks.
[11:56] <B|tchX> It would be nice to have wallpapers for konsole
[11:56] <B|tchX> where do I put in my wish list?
[12:04] <Mamarok> B|tchX: that is very unlikely ever to happen, use it in transparent mode instead, or use eterm
[13:10] <Rasta420> morning folks
[13:31] <BluesKaj> 'morning all
[13:31] <Rasta420> morning
[13:31] <amitava_> good evening all..
[13:53]  * BluesKaj dumps kmail/kontact
[13:57] <mokush> any ideea how I could get the 'Search and launch' layout as a widget? So I can use it this way? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=psUrV995i48
[14:10] <akis> does there any way to optain x-mplayer2 for google chrome running under 10.04?
[15:09] <qw-help> hello
[15:15] <qw-help> help me please. i am install kubuntu 10.04 LTC but i am not search Delphi  from kubuntu help me please
[15:23] <BluesKaj> !ru | qw-Russian
[15:23] <qw-Russian> thank you
[15:23] <qw-Russian> !ru
[15:43] <Rovanion> I've installed kde-plasma-desktop and kubuntu-default-settings. But I'm missing some sort of volume icon and the volume buttons don't work. What package am I missing?
[15:46] <tsimpson> Rovanion: probably kmix, but if you want things to work properly, just install kubuntu-desktop
[15:59] <qw-Russian> were ON auto-update from kubuntu
[15:59] <qw-Russian> were is it
[16:15] <BluesKaj> qw-Russian,  sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade is your best bet ,  auto upgrades in the package manager needs to be enabled
[16:16] <qw-Russian> i am using kubuntu 10.04 LTC
[16:16] <BluesKaj> LTS
[16:17] <BluesKaj> uname -a will tell your OS
[16:18] <BluesKaj> kernel that is , lsb_release -a will show the OS version
[16:19] <qw-Russian> BluesKaj, http://pastebin.com/8kcWp3Nb see please
[16:20] <BluesKaj> qw-Russian, sudo apt-get upgrade
[16:20] <BluesKaj> you updated twice
[16:21] <qw-Russian> thank you
[16:22] <qw-Russian> help me install libflashplayer.so PLEASE
[16:22] <BluesKaj> qw-Russian,  remember those commands , that's the quickest and cleanest method to update and upgrade your packages , then run sudo dist-upgrade to upgrade kde
[16:23] <qw-Russian> thanks
[16:23] <BluesKaj> do you have libflashplayer.so downloaded ?
[16:24] <qw-Russian> i am download install_flash_player_11_linux.i386.tar.gz but not have onstall
[16:24] <qw-Russian> install* sorry
[16:31] <BluesKaj> qw-Russian,  open the folder where flash player downloaded, then right click , extract here , there will be afolder called flashplayer created , look for libflashplayer.so there, copy it to, /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins , by doing alt+f2, kdesudo dolphin  /usr/lib/mozilla/ , open the plugins folder and paste it there
[16:32] <qw-Russian> BluesKaj, how I must look what driver and on whatever set
[16:33] <BluesKaj> qw-Russian,  sorry , I don't understand
[16:36] <qw-Russian> BluesKaj, I set itself the system of kubuntu 10.04 but I know whatever drivers I set  prompt me please as to me it to look thank you
[16:39] <BluesKaj> qw-Russian,  open kmenu>computer>system>additional drivers , choose the recommended driver , have patience the driver(s) take some time to install
[16:40] <BluesKaj> qw-Russian,  after installing the system may needa reboot
[16:40] <qw-Russian> my system is Russian
[16:41] <BluesKaj> qw-Russian, then join #kubuntu-ru for help/support
[16:44] <qw-Russian> BluesKaj, but i am no see inset "system"
[17:02] <qw-Russian> BluesKaj, thanks. i am install flash player
[17:03] <BluesKaj> qw-Russian,  kmenu>computer>system settings>additional drivers
[17:05] <qw-Russian> i am goin to computer do beacuse i'm not search system settings and other
[17:08] <qw-Russian> BluesKaj, i am see kmenu-computer-system settings
[17:08] <qw-Russian> sorry
[17:08] <qw-Russian> BluesKaj, i am see kmenu-computer-system parameters
[17:10] <BluesKaj> qw-Russian,  try this , kmenu>applications>system>aditional drivers
[17:10] <qw-Russian> maybe HardWare Drivers ?
[17:11] <EagleScreen> yes it is
[17:11] <qw-Russian> i am understand
[17:13] <qw-Russian> okey and i am see window  http://s018.radikal.ru/i517/1202/1e/1bc28a21b883.jpg
[17:14] <qw-Russian> this window is clear
[17:18] <BluesKaj> qw-Russian,  that page isn't available
[17:20] <qw-Russian> stop what is not avaible: Web-set or window in the picture ?
[17:23] <qw-Russian> i have cd disk from my notebook
[17:23] <qw-Russian> disk - emachines
[17:23] <BluesKaj> ok  qw-Russian it loaded this time, you do not have any additonal drivers available , they are in use I guess.
[17:24] <BluesKaj> !ru | qw-Russian
[17:25] <qw-Russian> sorry, but i am not understand for you write me
[17:25] <qw-Russian> #ubuntu-ru  -  channel is sleeeeeeeeping
[17:26] <BluesKaj> qw-Russian,  it's simple , I don't understand what you want to do
[17:29] <qw-Russian> BluesKaj, do I understand that I was tired of you but that to do me since to revive system?
[17:31] <BluesKaj> qw-Russian,  what part of the system do you mean ?
[17:32] <qw-Russian> maybe this sudo apt-get upgrade
[17:32] <qw-Russian> i write in konsole
[17:34] <BluesKaj> yes , sudo apt-get update , then sudo apt-get upgrade , also sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[17:35] <qw-Russian> but i am write first command and konsole write me text
[17:36] <BluesKaj> qw-Russian,  does it ask for your password ?
[17:37] <qw-Russian> no
[17:37] <qw-Russian> in the start - yes
[17:37] <qw-Russian> but next - no
[17:39] <BluesKaj> ok ,wait for the text to be finished , apt is looking the repositories for updates to your system , after the text stops and returns to the prompt (youusernamej@yourpc:~$), then sudo apt-get upgrade
[17:41] <qw-Russian> okey, thanks
[17:43] <qw-Russian> in the desktop show window, this window please reboot wrom my computer
[17:44] <qw-Russian> i am reboot
[17:48] <andrey> i am rebooting
[17:51] <andrey> BluesKaj, Thank you very very mach
[17:52] <BluesKaj> ok andrey ..is your system working better now ?
[17:53] <andrey> working but
[17:53] <andrey> i read window KPackageKit
[17:54] <andrey> this window please update secure
[17:54] <andrey> i am update
[17:55] <BluesKaj> kpackagekit uses apt-get , it's just a GUI , sudo apt-get update/upgrade/install/remove etc does the same thing, but more quickly than kpackagekit
[17:57] <andrey> i am not quockly
[17:57] <andrey> thanks
[17:58] <andrey> bln
[17:58] <andrey> i am listening radio but i am not sound  radio
[18:00] <andrey> (
[18:02] <andrey> why i am not sound in radio ?
[18:04] <BluesKaj> open system settings>multimedia>phonon>device preference , test the available options listed there
[18:05] <andrey> ^((((
[18:07] <BluesKaj> andrey,  ?
[18:09] <BluesKaj> andrey,  type, aplay -l , in the konsole , pastebin the result
[18:10] <BluesKaj> andrey,  then open system settings>multimedia>phonon>device preference , test the available options listed there
[18:16] <andrey> BluesKaj, i am update bases from KPackageKit but last update show message
[18:16] <andrey> i have bases n ot update
[18:17] <BluesKaj> andrey,  sudo apt-get upgrade in the konsole
[18:17] <andrey> 1. Ganeric Linux kerner headers
[18:17] <andrey> 2. Complete  Generic kerner
[18:17] <andrey> 3. Generic Linux kerner images
[18:18] <andrey> 4. manager the repositories that you install software from
[18:19] <andrey> it is all
[18:20] <andrey> i am write this command
[18:20] <andrey> and ask  questions
[18:21] <andrey> обновлено 0, установлено 0 новых пакетов, для удаления отмечено 0 пакетов, и 4 пакетов не обновлено.
[18:21] <andrey> sorry
[18:21] <FloodBotK1> andrey: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[18:22] <infernal> Would i be able to apply this to Ubuntu? https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=134109
[18:22] <andrey> upgrade 0, install 0  new packets, from delete insert 0, or 4 packets dont upgrade
[18:22] <calamari> I've selected Crystal SVG in Application Appearance, Icons. However, when I look at the desktop, it appears to have used Oxygen instead. Is my setting being overridden somewhere else?
[18:31] <infernal> Excuse me, I'm trying to set up /proc/sys/vm/laptop_mode but it isnt really working out. I use gksudo grep /proc/sys/vm/laptop_mod
[18:31] <infernal> is asks for a password from the UI and after that nothing really hapens. How do change its value?
[18:33] <vprints> infernal: open teminal (konsole)
[18:33] <vprints> and input the command there
[18:33] <vprints> but not with gksudo
[18:34] <vprints> mabe sudo grep /proc/sys/vm/laptop_mod
[18:34] <vprints> sudo grep /proc/sys/vm/laptop_mod
[18:34] <vprints> i do naot actually know if the command should work, but at least usually all grep's are done in terminal :)
[18:36] <infernal> i c :P, but i just hans nothing really happens
[18:50] <vprints> infernal: then your command might be wrong
[18:51] <infernal> i dont doubt it as i have no idea what am i really typing
[18:51] <infernal> but as i figured its userlevel / program / file
[18:54] <infernal> vprints: you mind taking a look at a askubuntu.com link?
[19:04] <calamari> it appears that the crystal svg icon set in kdelibs-data is using the wrong filenames
[19:16] <vprints> infernal: what link
[19:18] <neuman> Hi
[19:19] <neuman> Any one here . . .
[19:23] <infernal> i mannaged to set mode, by now, but thank you anyway :)
[19:28] <mike> hi
[19:48] <Hucklebuck> hello
[19:52] <Hucklebuck> is this where i come if i need any info/help witrh ubuntu?
[19:52] <Hucklebuck> im a newb
[19:55] <maria_> can i uninstall rekonq if i hab=ve firefox?
[20:05] <SuperNinja_> maria_:  Yes, but you'll only gain like 2 MB, because most of Rekonq's libraries are required by the rest of KDE.
[20:20] <alien__> Hello
[20:24] <DaemonFC> has anyone else had problems with Google suggestions not working at all in Konqueror and Rekonq?
[20:25] <DaemonFC> I have specified show suggestions in Konqueror's search box, nothing happens
[20:25] <DaemonFC> and according to Rekonq's upstream, this feature has been in for quite a while now
[20:25] <em> This is a little bit funny but I moved some videos to 'trash' and it says "the trash has reached maximum size, empty manually"
[20:25] <em> how do I empty the trash?
[20:27] <em> I think I did it by just 'deleting' what was in the trash.
[20:27] <em> There never was any thing that said "empty trash"
[20:30] <em> The trash is too small!
[20:32] <em> How can you increase the size of the trash?
[20:32] <em> Never mind I found it!
[20:32] <apachelogger> em: in dolphin's settings
[20:33] <em> apachelogger: yes thank you I did find it :)
[20:34] <em> apachelogger: why is there a limit on trash size anyway?
[20:35] <em> The trash has reached its maximum size!
[20:35] <em> Cleanup the trash manually.
[20:35] <em> it keeps on saying that even though I unchecked limit trash
[20:36] <em> apachelogger: Oh wait, I think i see now. There is a separate setting for each mounted device.
[20:36] <apachelogger> em: so you don't fill up your HD and then report a bug where all your space has gone ^^
[20:39] <em> ahha.
[21:08] <em> apachelogger: if you have startd to install something with aptitude is it dangerous to do Control C to stop it if it has already begun but not yet finished?
[21:08] <apachelogger> em: yes
[21:09] <apachelogger> a sane tool will not even let your control-c at this point :P
[21:10] <em> I won't try it then.
[21:10] <em> I'm using tsocks to use aptitude and I thought maybe i can speed it up if I would use ssh -C which says it compresses stuff. but i'll just let this finish sslowly
[21:10] <em> apachelogger: have you ever used ssh -C ?
[21:11] <apachelogger> no
[21:12] <em> oh okay.
[21:20] <bbr> hola alguna orientacion sbre ubuntu 11.10 alguna web que oriente que hacer despues de instalar...
[21:21] <Lynoure> !es
[21:22] <bbr> tengo problemas con initrans he instalado en un netbook y me crea problemas al iniciar... tarda un monton y solo despues de reiniciar y elegir linux mas antiguo .... entro, sino me aparece initans...
[21:22] <Lynoure> If I guessed the language right...
[21:22] <asfyxia> !es | bbr
[21:22] <bbr> vale,... ya me di cuenta-...
[21:35] <em> does the build-essential package come with the gnu compiler?
[21:36] <yofel> build-essential depends on gcc and g++
[21:36] <em> yeah so it will install those too
[21:36] <em> right?
[21:36] <em> Yes looks like it to me
[21:36] <yofel> right. It'll install: gcc g++ libc6-dev make dpkg-dev
[21:37] <em> build essential seems pretty important. how come that stuff isn't just already on there?
[21:38] <yofel> you don't usually need a compiler on a system.
[21:39] <em> I think you need it to comiple from source
[21:39] <yofel> sure, but not everyone does that
[21:39] <ikonia> a compiler can be a security risk, so it shouldn't be there unless you need it
[21:40] <ikonia> also installing headers and development libraries on the system is a waste, unless you need it, in which case install them
[21:40] <ikonia> the majority of people should not need it
[21:41] <em> yofel: do you ever compile from source?
[21:44] <yofel> em: I very much do so, but I'm a developer, so that's obvious
[21:45] <em> yofel: I did not know you asre a developer, that's very good.
[21:45] <em> are*
[21:46] <eo> hola
[21:46] <em> ikonia: do you ever compile from source?
[21:46] <em> eo: Hola, como estas?
[21:46] <ikonia> all the time, based on my work within project, it's required
[21:46] <em> eo: quieres ayuda con kubuntu?
[21:46] <eo> em: meanss like how am I doin? :D
[21:47] <em> eo: si por supuesto. :) Yes of course. :)
[21:47] <eo> well that's bueno
[21:48] <eo> fine. trying to win  my hangeover
[21:48] <eo> em: how's  you?
[21:49] <em> I'm pretty well. Im going to try installing proprietary drivers from scratch
[21:49] <ikonia> proprietary drivers from scratch ? what do you mean ?
[21:49] <ikonia> sounds interesting
[21:50] <em> em: I just mean Im not going to get the proprietary drivers from the Ubuntu repos. I didn't mean that I have the source code for them.
[21:50] <eo> i haven't been using activly ubuntus , but getting to know : )
[21:51] <yofel> em: are you sure you know how to do that? (why are you doing that?)
[21:52] <TommyNott> Hello everybody - is there anybody here who might be able to help me configure Gwibber in Kubuntu? Or is there a separate #gwibber channel for that?
[21:52] <ikonia> em: just keep in mind that the versions ubuntu / distros pick to package are compatible, other / later versions may not
[21:52] <em> yofel: No I am not sure I know how. And I'm doing it so that I can have the more recent one.
[21:53] <ikonia> em: any special reason you want the more recent versions (bug fix etc)
[21:53] <em> I want to install the amd sdk stuff and the pyopencl stuff so I can mine for bitcoins.
[21:53] <ikonia> ah, and you need a later version for that
[21:54] <ikonia> em: be very careful as the later versions do not always work with the base component versions you are running
[21:54] <em> On this point I am a little critical of Ubuntu because I cannot just install pyopencl from the Ubuntu repo since (FOR WHAT REASON??) they make the nvidia drivers a dependency of the pyopencl stuff.
[21:55] <ikonia> em: what archive is pyopencl in ? main/universe/multiverse
[21:55] <em> !info pyopencl
[21:56] <yofel> !info python-pyopencl
[21:57] <ikonia> multiverse, may just be a packaging error then,
[21:57] <ikonia> or there may need to be two packages, python-pyopencl-nvidia python-pyopencl-amd
[21:58] <em> ikonia: it shure would be nic if there were a python-pyopencl-amd
[21:59] <em> because installing pyopencl from scratch is not trivial.
[21:59] <ikonia> in truth I don't know anything about python-pyopencl so I don't know if there is a genuine reason why there is not, that said, it could just be a simple error when packaging that it depends on nvidia (worth logging a bug ?) or the split between nvidia/amd needs to be put into two packages
[22:02] <em> ikonia: which proprietary ati catalyst version does 11.04 ofer?
[22:02] <ikonia> I have no idea without looking to be honest, I don't have an ubuntu machine here
[22:02] <em> !info flgrx
[22:02] <em> !info fglrx
[22:03] <em> !info -natty flgrx
[22:03] <ikonia> other way around
[22:03] <ikonia> !info flgrx natty
[22:03] <ikonia> oh come on....
[22:03] <ikonia> !info fglrx natty
[22:03] <em> !info fglrx natty
[22:04] <em> it's hard to say from that what the catalyst version was.
[22:05] <ikonia> I don't know the numbering scheme for the amd/ati stuff
[22:05] <em> yeah that's okay.
[22:05] <em> ikonia: do you ever use shs -C?
[22:05] <em> ssh *
[22:05] <ikonia> I have done, when there is a need
[22:06] <ikonia> not very often
[22:08] <em> ikonia: im wondering if ssh -C might help since im using tsocks to use aptitude install
[22:09] <em> does the -C stuff happen on the remote machine prior to being sent to the local one?
[22:09] <ikonia> there must be some work done on the remote machine
[22:10] <ikonia> I'd assume just a little heavier load on sshd
[22:20] <Rokixz> good evening, I have a question, in Kontact I set up to show unread messages, but it's not working, it shows "No unread messsages..." even I got like  10 messages from 2 mail accounts, I put options also, just don't know how to fix it, thanks for help (Kubuntu 11.10 with KDE 4.8).
[22:28] <littlegirl> Rokixz: I'm not familiar with Kontact, but my email program treats new and unread messages differently. If a message is new it isn't considered unread even if I haven't read it yet unless I've closed and reopened the program or checked the mail and gotten more new messages. It might be the same in Kontact. (:
[22:47] <yo> can anybody tell me where they are the aplications of the aplications launcher
[22:47] <yo> ??
[22:48] <yo> please answer if you know it
[22:57] <designbybeck> Greetings all, I just backed up my personal data in Home, I had installed Kubuntu-Desktop on top of my Ubuntu 11.10 65bit install
[22:57] <designbybeck> Someone in this channel said that wasn't a good idea and that is why i was having random crashes.
[22:58] <designbybeck> So before I wiped my whole harddrive and installed a fresh Kubuntu install, this is recommend?
[23:01] <designbybeck> Does anyone else have random crashes with IRC Chat, and System Settings?
[23:04] <frogonwheels> designbybeck: It's a pretty good approach.  Make sure you don't have any data or system config that you need (maybe back-up /etc/ too?)
[23:04] <designbybeck> HHMmmm what might be under there that I would need frogonwheels
[23:05] <frogonwheels> designbybeck: Well it depends.. um.. website configs,  special network overrides..  hostname / hosts files / other stuff you've tinkered with?
[23:05] <designbybeck> i didn't have any website stuff setup on this install
[23:06] <frogonwheels> designbybeck: cool.  YOu could always tar it up just in case.
[23:07] <designbybeck> ok, i guess safe than sorry
[23:07] <frogonwheels> designbybeck: but as to whether it's a good idea- I mostly use the system upgrade for upgrades, but every now and again it's worth starting afresh.
[23:07] <frogonwheels> designbybeck: I have /home on sep mount for that reason.
[23:07] <designbybeck> hmm well someone else i was talking to in here was telling me that wasn't a good thing to do with upgrade
[23:07] <frogonwheels> designbybeck: you mean start afresh and copy your /home in?
[23:07] <designbybeck> i kept having problems with random crashing
[23:08] <designbybeck> and I'm about to do a workshop next weekend where we give dontated computers to kids
[23:08] <designbybeck> last time we use LinuxMint11
[23:09] <designbybeck> but I was going to try Ubuntu 11.10 32bit..... But just started playing more with Kubuntu 11.10
[23:09] <frogonwheels> designbybeck: Look it's certainly worth doing a fresh install if you are having issues - I would certainly consider that myself as an option (and have done so on a few occassions)
[23:09] <designbybeck> But i starated having crashes with Kubuntu, and things not installing correctly or at all
[23:10] <designbybeck> i take it your main setup is kubuntu frogonwheels ?
[23:10] <frogonwheels> strange, but it _does_ happen that you can get something wrong in the upgrade path that causes instability - hence why some people always do fresh installs.
[23:10] <frogonwheels> designbybeck: yep
[23:11] <frogonwheels> designbybeck: I have kubuntu,  mythbuntu and openwrt on various computers :)
[23:11] <designbybeck> do you have problems with kde
[23:11] <designbybeck> crashes and such?
[23:11] <designbybeck> or does it all run smooth?
[23:11] <frogonwheels> designbybeck: ocassionally, but generally not.
[23:11] <designbybeck> frogonwheels, but not to the problem that you loose data
[23:11] <designbybeck> or the point
[23:11] <frogonwheels> designbybeck: nope.
[23:12] <designbybeck> I've been using Ubuntu Unity on my laptop for a while
[23:12] <designbybeck> and it has always seemeed clunky
[23:12] <designbybeck> maybe it has a lot ot do with the ati card
[23:12] <designbybeck> but Kubuntu as seemed much more snappy and intitive
[23:13] <designbybeck> so it has temped me to try a new clean install kubuntu and try that out for a few months
[23:13] <frogonwheels> designbybeck: Ati has taken a while to get going, and I certainly had some real bumps along the way with dualscreen ATI drivers.. but it seems a lot more settled...
[23:14] <frogonwheels> designbybeck: I switched from gnome to kde many years back
[23:14] <designbybeck> i've always liked kde as a whole
[23:14] <designbybeck> and I am liking Gnome3
[23:14] <designbybeck> but still on my laptop setup gnome3 on here seems buggy too
[23:14] <Vuth> hi
[23:14] <designbybeck> hello Vuth
[23:15] <Vuth> how is kubunut doing?
[23:15] <designbybeck> well I'm about to do a clean install
[23:15] <Vuth> im trying to do a dual boot
[23:15] <Vuth> windows 7 + any linux
[23:15] <designbybeck> I had Ubuntu 11.10 64bit Vuth, I wanted to try Kubuntu so I downloaded Kubuntu-Desktop from the software center
[23:15] <frogonwheels> designbybeck: gl btw :) I've gotta get me some breakfast.
[23:15] <Vuth> but is it reversible? if i want to go back to single boot
[23:16] <designbybeck> but I have issuses with things not installing or asking for my password and such
[23:16] <designbybeck> thanks for the help frogonwheels
[23:16] <Vuth> design and you ran it ONT TOP of windows 7?
[23:17] <designbybeck> no no
[23:17] <designbybeck> that isn't recommeded at all
[23:17] <designbybeck> you should dual boot if you are going to keep windows
[23:17] <designbybeck> yeah it is easy enough to take back that partition
[23:17] <Vuth> okok
[23:18] <designbybeck> i meant vs using wubi
[23:18] <Vuth> installs the software on an existing Windows partition, thus without need for partitioning.
[23:19] <designbybeck> right, and that is what is not recommended
[23:19] <Vuth> :(
[23:19] <designbybeck> it's best to let Kubuntu partition the hadrrdive
[23:19] <designbybeck> only becuase it underminds the power of linux
[23:19] <designbybeck> to be on top of windows
[23:20] <Vuth> i like the customizable of linux OS but i also play online games..and windows on linux not very good
[23:20] <Vuth> i have 1 TB how much u rec. for me to partition?
[23:21] <designbybeck> oh if that is your data drive, you could go with 100GB to Linux and be fine
[23:22] <Vuth> sounds good
[23:24] <designbybeck> I forgot to ask frogonwheels what arch he runs? 32bit or 64bit
[23:24] <frogonwheels> designbybeck: 64
[23:24] <designbybeck> how much ram do you have Vuth
[23:24] <designbybeck> ah... thanks
[23:24] <designbybeck> that is what i was running
[23:24] <designbybeck> and making the new LiveBoot USB now
[23:24] <frogonwheels> designbybeck: I think the last time I reinstalled I  went from 32bit to 64bit keeping pretty much the same home directory
[23:25] <frogonwheels> designbybeck:  :) try do that on win7 ;p
[23:25] <designbybeck> hahaha
[23:25] <designbybeck> haven't personallky ran windows in 4 years
[23:27] <Vuth> on my PC..i have 8gb
[23:27] <designbybeck> ah yeah so you'll want 64bit
[23:27] <Vuth> right
[23:28] <Vuth> did u finish clean install of kubunutu yet?
[23:28] <designbybeck> finishing the USB now
[23:28] <Vuth> have u tried any other linux? i have only tried mint and ubunutu
[23:28] <designbybeck> making the live boot now
[23:28] <designbybeck> yeah those are the only two i've ran more than a few week
[23:29] <designbybeck> Fedora i have livebooted and used here and there, but not for long periods
[23:29] <designbybeck> I did try KXStudio and Dream Studio, but those are based on ubuntu kbunut
[23:29] <designbybeck> but not managed anymore i don't think
[23:31] <designbybeck> Ok jumpdrive done, I guess I'm going offline for a while
[23:31] <designbybeck> Hopefully I'll catch on the flip side!
[23:32] <Vuth> bye
[23:58] <EP_1337> Hey
[23:58] <EP_1337> anyone about?