| hzsp | hi. I need some help building gnome-settings-daemon (first time I've tried to build an ubuntu package from source). first off, am I in the right channel? :) | 00:09 |
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| cyphermox | hzsp yes, or #ubuntu-desktop | 00:09 |
| cyphermox | cjwatson: if you share ld options for testing i may be able to kick off a few test builds locally here , then poke seb with results | 00:11 |
| cjwatson | cyphermox: 14:12 <cjwatson> seb128: try ld --no-keep-memory | 00:12 |
| cjwatson | cyphermox: 14:13 <cjwatson> seb128: possibly --reduce-memory-overheads too | 00:12 |
| cyphermox | i realize it would probably take just as long to build for me though | 00:13 |
| hzsp | ok. so I'm getting this error when trying to make: http://pastebin.com/d3WPkTAJ | 00:13 |
| cyphermox | cjwatson: thx | 00:13 |
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| cyphermox | building something will be a nice change from the blistering cold though. :) | 00:14 |
| cyphermox | hzsp: its not linking properly against libnotify. how are you building it? | 00:16 |
| hzsp | I got the source with apt-get source and build-dep, then I tried to run ./configure && make, but I ran into some issues which I think I've overcome | 00:16 |
| stgraber | cyphermox: it's not that cold ;) though you can probably save a bit on heating and instead spend it on electricty for your build farm ;) | 00:17 |
| hzsp | make was initially telling me 'libtool: Version mismatch error'. I ran autoreconf -i and that problem's gone away. | 00:17 |
| cjwatson | any reason you aren't using the package build rules? | 00:18 |
| cyphermox | stgraber: im at the Quebec carnival, spent most of the day outside | 00:19 |
| hzsp | cjwatson: can you explain | 00:19 |
| cjwatson | there's a uniform way to build packages, which normally involves calling debian/rules to do configuration and compilation, not typing the commands by hand | 00:19 |
| stgraber | cyphermox: oh yeah, I only spent an hour or so outside today, wouldn't like to spend the whole day out, the -13C quickly becomes annoying ;) | 00:20 |
| cjwatson | simplest way to invoke it is 'debuild -b' | 00:20 |
| cjwatson | (requires devscripts to be installed) | 00:20 |
| hzsp | cjwatson: I see. I was reading the INSTALL file which told me to do a configure && make | 00:20 |
| cjwatson | those are the upstream directions | 00:20 |
| cjwatson | but if you're trying to duplicate the package you should use the packaging tools | 00:20 |
| hzsp | I'll try that, ta | 00:20 |
| * cjwatson double-checks whether gnome-settings-daemon builds in current precise | 00:21 | |
| cyphermox | most likely | 00:21 |
| hzsp | I'll nuke the source tree and install it again just to be safe | 00:21 |
| cyphermox | stgraber, we were dressed for the north pole | 00:24 |
| hzsp | is debuild -b going to do a make install as well? is it likely to install into /usr/local? | 00:24 |
| cyphermox | hzsp: no | 00:24 |
| stgraber | cyphermox: hehe, good ;) | 00:24 |
| cyphermox | it Will give you .debs to installer | 00:24 |
| cjwatson | hzsp: it's incapable of installing into /usr/local, unless you run it as root (which you shouldn't!) | 00:24 |
| cjwatson | hzsp: it does a make install or the equivalent, but into a temporary tree | 00:25 |
| cjwatson | which is part of the process of building packags | 00:25 |
| cjwatson | *packages | 00:25 |
| hzsp | cjwatson: ok, thanks | 00:25 |
| cjwatson | hzsp: I can confirm that gnome-settings-daemon builds from source in precise using the packaging rules | 00:32 |
| cjwatson | haven't checked other releases | 00:32 |
| hzsp | cool. I'm building on (and for) precise. | 00:33 |
| hzsp | it got as far as clearsign failed: secret key not available debsign: gpg error occurred | 00:34 |
| hzsp | but it did build binaries ok | 00:35 |
| cjwatson | sure, that can be ignored | 00:35 |
| cjwatson | 'debuild -b -uc -us' if you want to bother suppressing that | 00:35 |
| cjwatson | the build output should show exactly how it invoked configure and make if you want to then do stuff by hand | 00:36 |
| hzsp | my next task is to figure out how to kill the default gnome-settings-daemon without it restarting itself :-P | 00:37 |
| cjwatson | can't help you there :) | 00:37 |
| hzsp | no, but google can ;) anyway, thanks for your help! | 00:38 |
| apachelogger | do we have a page listing release critical bugs somewhere? | 00:40 |
| tumbleweed | apachelogger: not that I know of, we probably should | 00:47 |
| apachelogger | oh, actually I should clearify ... a page that particularly also tracks progress throughout the cycle ^^ | 00:48 |
| apachelogger | I guess one can filter the interesting bugs via launchpad ui directly | 00:48 |
| tumbleweed | we have those kind of things for some core packages on qa.ubuntu.com | 00:48 |
| tumbleweed | http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qapkgstatus | 00:49 |
| apachelogger | tumbleweed: that doesn't seem to take milestoning into account, does it? | 00:52 |
| cjwatson | there's stuff like http://reports.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/kernel-bugs/reports/rls-mgr-p-tracking-bugs.html, on the occasions when it isn't broken | 00:53 |
| cjwatson | (to be fair it is more or less up to date at the moment) | 00:55 |
| tumbleweed | apachelogger: no | 00:56 |
| apachelogger | kk | 00:56 |
| apachelogger | cjwatson: hm, I am getting process confused now ... wasn't at one point the workflow to milestone bugs before release and only nominate after? | 00:58 |
| cjwatson | apachelogger: at least for some years the distinction has been that developers can milestone whatever they like to organise their own work, but if we want things to be release-critical then they have to be targeted as well | 01:06 |
| cjwatson | (the page above is actually only for bugs with a certain tag though - yay for more levels of abstraction, I guess) | 01:07 |
| broder | ubuntu-branches members - i've spotted 2 more in the sponsors queue that should be adjusted | 01:07 |
| broder | https://code.launchpad.net/~pali/ubuntu/oneiric/pulseaudio/pulseaudio/+merge/67286 should be work in progress - there's a newer MP that should be in the queue | 01:08 |
| broder | https://code.launchpad.net/~l3on/ubuntu/natty/gdevilspie/fix-for-783568/+merge/89717 should be merged - it's in UNAPPROVED | 01:08 |
| apachelogger | cjwatson: makes you wonder how one is supposed to explain all that to regular folks :P | 01:08 |
| cjwatson | aye | 01:09 |
| cjwatson | https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RCBugTargetting makes a valiant attempt but is (of course) out of date | 01:12 |
| cjwatson | that said I do actually look at traditional (non-rls-mgr-p-tracking-tagged) targeted+milestoned bug lists from time to time | 01:13 |
| cjwatson | so that page isn't all that bad a start | 01:13 |
| * cjwatson gets bored of walking down http://lintian.ubuntuwire.org/tags/preinst-uses-dpkg-maintscript-helper-without-predepends.html and goes to bed | 01:14 | |
| lamont | interesting that dist-upgrade wants to remove ubuntu-desktop | 01:30 |
| stgraber | lamont: yep, that's caused by webkit | 01:32 |
| lamont | gwibber in this case | 01:32 |
| lamont | interestingly, do-release-upgrade -d from oneiric finished | 01:32 |
| stgraber | lamont: a bunch of important packages (apturl, software-center, gwibber, ...) all depend on some webkit stuff that in turn depends on the yet to be built arch all packages | 01:32 |
| lamont | I'm just wondering if it's safe to reboot | 01:32 |
| stgraber | if the only non-upgraded stuff is: gir1.2-javascriptcoregtk-3.0 gir1.2-webkit-3.0 gnome-control-center-data gwibber libjavascriptcoregtk-1.0-0 libjavascriptcoregtk-3.0-0 libwebkitgtk-1.0-0 libwebkitgtk-3.0-0 | 01:33 |
| stgraber | then that's what I have on my laptop at the moment and it works fine | 01:33 |
| stgraber | (to start fullscreen terminals at least) | 01:33 |
| lamont | The following packages have been kept back: | 01:34 |
| lamont | gir1.2-webkit-3.0 libwebkitgtk-1.0-0 libwebkitgtk-3.0-0 | 01:34 |
| lamont | I guess it's time to file a bug about 3.2.0 hating my video card | 02:16 |
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| micahg | jamespage: hi, just wanted to check with you if I missed anything, I would like to sync the latest javatools as it has bug fixes and is needed as a build dep for a new geogebra, seems sane and builds | 05:55 |
| ScottK | Isn't the motto JFDI? | 05:58 |
| micahg | yes, but I'd prefer not to break a bunch of java rdeps | 06:02 |
| broder | anybody here use nomachine? i'm trying to figure out a fix for bug #682338 that's slightly less hideous than https://launchpadlibrarian.net/89032862/nx_cairo_1.10.2-6ubuntu3.patch | 06:13 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 682338 in cairo (Ubuntu Precise) "GTK programs in Ubuntu 10.10 are sluggish over NX" [Low,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/682338 | 06:13 |
| broder | in particular, i'm wondering what xdpyinfo on a nx connection looks like | 06:13 |
| truongan | hi all | 06:19 |
| truongan | i've used Ubuntu for 3 years. i want to become a developer. do you have any project for me?. my prefered language is C | 06:21 |
| ion | Pick any of them. | 06:24 |
| eQuiNoX__ | hmm other than the highlighted CVE's here => https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MeetingLogs/Security/20120206 ; is there anyplace where all cve's that require traige/fixes are listed in the wiki? | 06:52 |
| eQuiNoX__ | something ive missed? :/ | 06:52 |
| jamespage | micahg, go for it | 07:46 |
| micahg | jamespage: thanks | 07:46 |
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| ome | Where can I add/read the APT feature requests ? | 14:21 |
| jtaylor | doko__: numpy 1.6 merge proposal https://code.launchpad.net/~jtaylor/ubuntu/precise/python-numpy/merge-1.6/+merge/92671 | 15:13 |
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| stgraber | would be great if someone could BIN-new libindicate on i386, this would let gwibber build and allow for it to be upgradable on amd64 | 18:24 |
| micahg | it would also let another handful or so of rdeps build | 18:27 |
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| lifeless | RAOF: do you want any diagnostics - 2362 robertc 20 0 883m 374m 13m S 0 4.8 4:22.54 nm-applet | 19:29 |
| lifeless | RAOF: (yes, thats nearly 400M resident for 'you can has network GUI') | 19:29 |
| RAOF | lifeless: Are you sure you weren't after Sweetshark? :) | 22:06 |
| lifeless | RAOF: oh oh a pointer to chase? :) | 22:07 |
| RAOF | lifeless: Only for problems with his XI 2.2 backport :) | 22:08 |
| lifeless | RAOF: XI ? | 22:08 |
| RAOF | But I don't touch NetworkManager *at all* | 22:08 |
| lifeless | RAOF: yeah, but you are -desktop and -mytimezone ;) | 22:09 |
| RAOF | X Input; the upstream multitouch protocol. | 22:09 |
| RAOF | Heh. | 22:09 |
| RAOF | IIRC ubuntu-bug will pick up all the memory mappings nm-applet has; I guess the start might be filing a bug? :) | 22:09 |
| RAOF | Hurray heisenbug! Attaching gdb prevents the crash. | 22:10 |
| lifeless | RAOF: bug 931167 :) | 22:42 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 931167 in network-manager-applet (Ubuntu) "NM-applet using crazy memory" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/931167 | 22:42 |
| lamont | should libreoffice work tonight, I wonder? | 23:57 |
| ScottK | Heh. I ask myself that every day, even post-release. | 23:58 |
| lamont | well, it seems to try to start and then *poof*: nothing | 23:58 |
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