hzsphi.  I need some help building gnome-settings-daemon (first time I've tried to build an ubuntu package from source).  first off, am I in the right channel? :)00:09
cyphermoxhzsp yes, or #ubuntu-desktop00:09
cyphermoxcjwatson: if you share ld options for testing i may be able to kick off a few test builds locally here , then poke seb with  results00:11
cjwatsoncyphermox: 14:12 <cjwatson> seb128: try ld --no-keep-memory00:12
cjwatsoncyphermox: 14:13 <cjwatson> seb128: possibly --reduce-memory-overheads too00:12
cyphermoxi realize it would probably take just as long to build for me though00:13
hzspok.  so I'm getting this error when trying to make: http://pastebin.com/d3WPkTAJ00:13
cyphermoxcjwatson: thx00:13
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cyphermoxbuilding something will be a nice change from the blistering cold though. :)00:14
cyphermoxhzsp: its not linking properly against libnotify. how are you building it?00:16
hzspI got the source with apt-get source and build-dep, then I tried to run ./configure && make, but I ran into some issues which I think I've overcome00:16
stgrabercyphermox: it's not that cold ;) though you can probably save a bit on heating and instead spend it on electricty for your build farm ;)00:17
hzspmake was initially telling me 'libtool: Version mismatch error'.  I ran autoreconf -i and that problem's gone away.00:17
cjwatsonany reason you aren't using the package build rules?00:18
cyphermoxstgraber: im at the Quebec carnival, spent most of  the day outside00:19
hzspcjwatson: can you explain00:19
cjwatsonthere's a uniform way to build packages, which normally involves calling debian/rules to do configuration and compilation, not typing the commands by hand00:19
stgrabercyphermox: oh yeah, I only spent an hour or so outside today, wouldn't like to spend the whole day out, the -13C quickly becomes annoying ;)00:20
cjwatsonsimplest way to invoke it is 'debuild -b'00:20
cjwatson(requires devscripts to be installed)00:20
hzspcjwatson: I see.  I was reading the INSTALL file which told me to do a configure && make00:20
cjwatsonthose are the upstream directions00:20
cjwatsonbut if you're trying to duplicate the package you should use the packaging tools00:20
hzspI'll try that, ta00:20
* cjwatson double-checks whether gnome-settings-daemon builds in current precise00:21
cyphermoxmost likely00:21
hzspI'll nuke the source tree and install it again just to be safe00:21
cyphermoxstgraber, we were dressed for the north pole00:24
hzspis debuild -b going to do a make install as well?  is it likely to install into /usr/local?00:24
cyphermoxhzsp: no00:24
stgrabercyphermox: hehe, good ;)00:24
cyphermoxit Will give you .debs to installer00:24
cjwatsonhzsp: it's incapable of installing into /usr/local, unless you run it as root (which you shouldn't!)00:24
cjwatsonhzsp: it does a make install or the equivalent, but into a temporary tree00:25
cjwatsonwhich is part of the process of building packags00:25
hzspcjwatson: ok, thanks00:25
cjwatsonhzsp: I can confirm that gnome-settings-daemon builds from source in precise using the packaging rules00:32
cjwatsonhaven't checked other releases00:32
hzspcool.  I'm building on (and for) precise.00:33
hzspit got as far as clearsign failed: secret key not available  debsign: gpg error occurred00:34
hzspbut it did build binaries ok00:35
cjwatsonsure, that can be ignored00:35
cjwatson'debuild -b -uc -us' if you want to bother suppressing that00:35
cjwatsonthe build output should show exactly how it invoked configure and make if you want to then do stuff by hand00:36
hzspmy next task is to figure out how to kill the default gnome-settings-daemon without it restarting itself :-P00:37
cjwatsoncan't help you there :)00:37
hzspno, but google can ;)  anyway, thanks for your help!00:38
apacheloggerdo we have a page listing release critical bugs somewhere?00:40
tumbleweedapachelogger: not that I know of, we probably should00:47
apacheloggeroh, actually I should clearify ... a page that particularly also tracks progress throughout the cycle ^^00:48
apacheloggerI guess one can filter the interesting bugs via launchpad ui directly00:48
tumbleweedwe have those kind of things for some core packages on qa.ubuntu.com00:48
apacheloggertumbleweed: that doesn't seem to take milestoning into account, does it?00:52
cjwatsonthere's stuff like http://reports.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/kernel-bugs/reports/rls-mgr-p-tracking-bugs.html, on the occasions when it isn't broken00:53
cjwatson(to be fair it is more or less up to date at the moment)00:55
tumbleweedapachelogger: no00:56
apacheloggercjwatson: hm, I am getting process confused now ... wasn't at one point the workflow to milestone bugs before release and only nominate after?00:58
cjwatsonapachelogger: at least for some years the distinction has been that developers can milestone whatever they like to organise their own work, but if we want things to be release-critical then they have to be targeted as well01:06
cjwatson(the page above is actually only for bugs with a certain tag though - yay for more levels of abstraction, I guess)01:07
broderubuntu-branches members - i've spotted 2 more in the sponsors queue that should be adjusted01:07
broderhttps://code.launchpad.net/~pali/ubuntu/oneiric/pulseaudio/pulseaudio/+merge/67286 should be work in progress - there's a newer MP that should be in the queue01:08
broderhttps://code.launchpad.net/~l3on/ubuntu/natty/gdevilspie/fix-for-783568/+merge/89717 should be merged - it's in UNAPPROVED01:08
apacheloggercjwatson: makes you wonder how one is supposed to explain all that to regular folks :P01:08
cjwatsonhttps://wiki.ubuntu.com/RCBugTargetting makes a valiant attempt but is (of course) out of date01:12
cjwatsonthat said I do actually look at traditional (non-rls-mgr-p-tracking-tagged) targeted+milestoned bug lists from time to time01:13
cjwatsonso that page isn't all that bad a start01:13
* cjwatson gets bored of walking down http://lintian.ubuntuwire.org/tags/preinst-uses-dpkg-maintscript-helper-without-predepends.html and goes to bed01:14
lamontinteresting that dist-upgrade wants to remove ubuntu-desktop01:30
stgraberlamont: yep, that's caused by webkit01:32
lamontgwibber in this case01:32
lamontinterestingly, do-release-upgrade -d from oneiric finished01:32
stgraberlamont: a bunch of important packages (apturl, software-center, gwibber, ...) all depend on some webkit stuff that in turn depends on the yet to be built arch all packages01:32
lamontI'm just wondering if it's safe to reboot01:32
stgraberif the only non-upgraded stuff is: gir1.2-javascriptcoregtk-3.0 gir1.2-webkit-3.0 gnome-control-center-data gwibber libjavascriptcoregtk-1.0-0 libjavascriptcoregtk-3.0-0 libwebkitgtk-1.0-0 libwebkitgtk-3.0-001:33
stgraberthen that's what I have on my laptop at the moment and it works fine01:33
stgraber(to start fullscreen terminals at least)01:33
lamontThe following packages have been kept back:01:34
lamont  gir1.2-webkit-3.0 libwebkitgtk-1.0-0 libwebkitgtk-3.0-001:34
lamontI guess it's time to file a bug about 3.2.0 hating my video card02:16
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micahgjamespage: hi, just wanted to check with you if I missed anything, I would like to sync the latest javatools as it has bug fixes and is needed as a build dep for a new geogebra, seems sane and builds05:55
ScottKIsn't the motto JFDI?05:58
micahgyes, but I'd prefer not to break a bunch of java rdeps06:02
broder anybody here use nomachine? i'm trying to figure out a fix for bug #682338 that's slightly less hideous than https://launchpadlibrarian.net/89032862/nx_cairo_1.10.2-6ubuntu3.patch06:13
ubottuLaunchpad bug 682338 in cairo (Ubuntu Precise) "GTK programs in Ubuntu 10.10 are sluggish over NX" [Low,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/68233806:13
broderin particular, i'm wondering what xdpyinfo on a nx connection looks like06:13
truonganhi all06:19
truongani've used Ubuntu for 3 years. i want to become a developer. do you have any project for me?. my prefered language is C06:21
ionPick any of them.06:24
eQuiNoX__hmm other than the highlighted CVE's here => https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MeetingLogs/Security/20120206 ; is there anyplace where all cve's that require traige/fixes are listed in the wiki?06:52
eQuiNoX__something ive missed? :/06:52
jamespagemicahg, go for it07:46
micahgjamespage: thanks07:46
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omeWhere can I add/read the APT feature requests ?14:21
jtaylordoko__: numpy 1.6 merge proposal https://code.launchpad.net/~jtaylor/ubuntu/precise/python-numpy/merge-1.6/+merge/9267115:13
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stgraberwould be great if someone could BIN-new libindicate on i386, this would let gwibber build and allow for it to be upgradable on amd6418:24
micahgit would also let another handful or so of rdeps build18:27
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lifelessRAOF: do you want any diagnostics - 2362 robertc   20   0  883m 374m  13m S    0  4.8   4:22.54 nm-applet19:29
lifelessRAOF: (yes, thats nearly 400M resident for 'you can has network GUI')19:29
RAOFlifeless: Are you sure you weren't after Sweetshark? :)22:06
lifelessRAOF: oh oh a pointer to chase? :)22:07
RAOFlifeless: Only for problems with his XI 2.2 backport :)22:08
lifelessRAOF: XI ?22:08
RAOFBut I don't touch NetworkManager *at all*22:08
lifelessRAOF: yeah, but you are -desktop and -mytimezone ;)22:09
RAOFX Input; the upstream multitouch protocol.22:09
RAOFIIRC ubuntu-bug will pick up all the memory mappings nm-applet has; I guess the start might be filing a bug? :)22:09
RAOFHurray heisenbug!  Attaching gdb prevents the crash.22:10
lifelessRAOF: bug 931167 :)22:42
ubottuLaunchpad bug 931167 in network-manager-applet (Ubuntu) "NM-applet using crazy memory" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/93116722:42
lamontshould libreoffice work tonight, I wonder?23:57
ScottKHeh.  I ask myself that every day, even post-release.23:58
lamontwell, it seems to try to start and then *poof*: nothing23:58

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