| JanC | ping locoteam members | 00:52 |
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| JanC | czajkowski, itnet7, greg-g: I am just reading some of my locoteam members think we need to go up for re-approval next Thursday, but strangely enough, as the locoteam contact I didn't get any mails about that, surely something must be wrong here? | 01:06 |
| JanC | SergioMeneses: you too ^^^ | 01:07 |
| SergioMeneses | jalrnc, hello... | 01:07 |
| JanC | either somebody in my locoteam is confused, or I didn't get contacted about this? | 01:07 |
| SergioMeneses | JanC, Can you give me the launchpad page? | 01:10 |
| JanC | SergioMeneses: launchpad page of what? our locoteam? | 01:11 |
| JanC | it's ~ubuntu-be | 01:11 |
| JanC | http://loco.ubuntu.com/teams/ubuntu-be | 01:12 |
| SergioMeneses | jalrnc, date -> 2012-02-16 | 01:12 |
| JanC | clearly, I'm listed as the contact person, but didn't get contacted | 01:12 |
| JanC | so something went wrong? | 01:13 |
| SergioMeneses | JanC, when you realized that the date was about to end? | 01:14 |
| JanC | I'm not sure how some other locoteam members knew this, and started preparing things for a reapproval this week, but I *am* somewhat disturbed about how I never got contacted... | 01:15 |
| JanC | I don't expect an answer from them before tomorrow anyway | 01:16 |
| JanC | or maybe Monday | 01:16 |
| JanC | about how/when they found out | 01:17 |
| SergioMeneses | JanC, mmm.... | 01:18 |
| JanC | but IMO it doesn't matter how they found out, I want to know why *I* wasn't informed by the loco council... | 01:20 |
| paultag | JanC: was a re-approval bug not filed? | 01:21 |
| JanC | paultag: how should I know? | 01:21 |
| paultag | JanC: it would have told you | 01:21 |
| paultag | JanC: and you would have been subscribed as the owner of the team | 01:21 |
| JanC | I didn't get informed at least... | 01:21 |
| JanC | I am not the owner | 01:21 |
| JanC | I am the loco contact | 01:22 |
| paultag | JanC: who's the owner? | 01:22 |
| JanC | which is the person-to-contact | 01:22 |
| paultag | I understand | 01:22 |
| paultag | JanC: who's the owner? | 01:22 |
| SergioMeneses | the date is correct ... about e-mail: I do not know because your not the official contact ... the more likely the official contact has been reported about the reapproval | 01:22 |
| SergioMeneses | JanC, ↑↑↑ | 01:23 |
| paultag | JanC: did the owner get a mail? | 01:23 |
| JanC | https://launchpad.net/~markvdb | 01:23 |
| JanC | but he was probably extremely busy with FOSDEM lately | 01:23 |
| SergioMeneses | paultag, JanC is not the contact... | 01:23 |
| paultag | SergioMeneses: 01:22 < JanC> I am the loco contact | 01:23 |
| paultag | SergioMeneses: sorry? | 01:23 |
| paultag | SergioMeneses: owner / admin != contact for a lot of cases | 01:23 |
| paultag | SergioMeneses: it's a common mistake | 01:23 |
| SergioMeneses | paultag, you're right!... | 01:24 |
| paultag | I know I am :) | 01:24 |
| JanC | SergioMeneses: see http://loco.ubuntu.com/teams/ubuntu-be --> I'm the contatc ☺ | 01:24 |
| paultag | SergioMeneses: I did do this for like 2 years :) | 01:24 |
| paultag | you have to manually verify each re-app | 01:24 |
| JanC | I was on the loco council too ;) | 01:24 |
| paultag | JanC: yeah yeah, join the club :) | 01:24 |
| SergioMeneses | JanC, nice | 01:24 |
| JanC | which is why I'm a bit disturbed ;) | 01:25 |
| paultag | JanC++ | 01:25 |
| paultag | JanC: I had a killer workflow when I was "in office" :) | 01:25 |
| JanC | well, I happened to be working with a locoteam that wasn't very responsive at he end, which killed almost all workflow, but yeah... :P | 01:26 |
| paultag | :P | 01:27 |
| JanC | anyway, I guess we can still go up for reapproval next Thursday (thanks to our anarchistic team structure) | 01:28 |
| JanC | but I'd still like to know what went wrong... | 01:28 |
| SergioMeneses | JanC, look https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LoCoCouncil/Agenda | 01:28 |
| paultag | JanC: I don't know how it goes now, but in the case of a screwup on the LC side, I've seen a lot of extentions to the end of the cycle | 01:28 |
| paultag | JanC: I wonder if czajkowski / SergioMeneses would be +1 to that | 01:28 |
| SergioMeneses | I only see Netherlands.... | 01:29 |
| JanC | that was in January | 01:29 |
| JanC | or added in January? | 01:30 |
| JanC | anyway, I think we can manage (after all we only have to list what we did/do, not to invent anything new ;) ) | 01:31 |
| JanC | hm, next meeting is scheduled for much later it seems? | 01:32 |
| JanC | now I'm even more confused | 01:32 |
| JanC | let me check with my team members about his ;) | 01:33 |
| SergioMeneses | JanC, The next meeting is scheduled for Tuesday 21th February 2012, 20:00 UTC and and will be held in #ubuntu-meeting on irc.freenode.net. | 01:33 |
| JanC | which is after February the 16th... | 01:34 |
| JanC | but OTOH, the conditions for the reapproval process aren't met: the locoteam contact was never contacted about this | 01:35 |
| SergioMeneses | JanC, look https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LoCoCouncil/TeamApprovalGuidelines | 01:36 |
| JanC | SergioMeneses: no, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LoCoCouncil/LoCoTeamReApproval | 01:37 |
| JanC | """The LoCo Council will attempt to contact the LoCo team a reasonable number of times (3) over a reasonable period (1 month). We do this by creating a bug and emailing the team contact. """ | 01:37 |
| JanC | I didn't get a single mail, let alone 3 | 01:37 |
| paultag | SergioMeneses: did the admin respond? | 01:37 |
| JanC | (and yes i checked my spam folder) | 01:37 |
| paultag | SergioMeneses: did you use lintco? | 01:38 |
| SergioMeneses | I'm not using my pc | 01:38 |
| paultag | sorry, what? | 01:38 |
| paultag | SergioMeneses: did someone file the bugs with lintco? | 01:38 |
| SergioMeneses | laptop | 01:38 |
| paultag | SergioMeneses: and was the admin responding to the inquery? | 01:39 |
| paultag | (sp, sorry) | 01:39 |
| JanC | the admin is not the loco contact, and as said before was very busy with having 2 jobs & organizing FOSDEM recently... | 01:43 |
| JanC | that's why there is a loco contact... | 01:43 |
| SergioMeneses | JanC, in LP the admin is https://launchpad.net/~markvdb | 01:44 |
| JanC | SergioMeneses: I already told you so ☺ | 01:45 |
| JanC | but admin is not relevant | 01:45 |
| JanC | anyway, let's further discuss this tomorrow, it's almost 3am here, and I hope to get some more info from my team tomorrow | 01:49 |
| JanC | (discussion about this on the ML started last Thursday apparently, but I was sick then and didn't catch up until today) | 01:51 |
| SergioMeneses | JanC, please write us an email!... | 01:51 |
| paultag | JanC: request an extention to the end of the cycle even if you don't need it | 01:52 |
| paultag | JanC: it was standard practice a few months ago | 01:52 |
| JanC | I suppose we will need an extension anyway, as there is no loco council meeting on the 16th ☺ | 01:53 |
| JanC | but yes, I will write | 01:53 |
| JanC | (after I clear up what happened in the locoteam also--that's some disadvantage of being a bit anarchistic, I guess ;) ) | 01:54 |
| SergioMeneses | paultag, JanC look https://picasaweb.google.com/101586564530051299524/Ubuntu#5708061646893615634 | 01:55 |
| paultag | yeah | 01:56 |
| paultag | locolint _admin_ :) | 01:56 |
| paultag | I mean, that's why it happened | 01:56 |
| paultag | but it should have been checked manually | 01:56 |
| SergioMeneses | paultag, that's true | 01:57 |
| SergioMeneses | :S | 01:57 |
| YoBoY | how lintco works when the owner is a team ? :) (you can try with ubuntu-fr) | 02:00 |
| JanC | YoBoY: not to mention, when the contact is a team? ;) | 02:00 |
| YoBoY | we cheated to avoid this case, our contact was on the LC ^^" | 02:01 |
| JanC | LOL | 02:02 |
| JanC | I was too, at some time | 02:02 |
| JanC | but that shouldn't be a requirement :P | 02:02 |
| YoBoY | +1 :) | 02:02 |
| paultag | YoBoY: if it's a team, it should recurse all the members | 02:03 |
| JanC | so, let's figure this out tomorrow (we're all past 3am here, I assume) | 02:03 |
| paultag | YoBoY: my hometeam was team-managed, so I think I had it in mind | 02:03 |
| YoBoY | yep | 02:04 |
| paultag | yep it does | 02:05 |
| paultag | awesome | 02:05 |
| paultag | oh snap, forgot I wrote a manpage for i t | 02:06 |
| paultag | lulz, it has FBAUTOSTART(1) at the bottom | 02:06 |
| JanC | now make it parse the contact entry in the loco portal, please ☺ | 02:06 |
| paultag | JanC: at the time there was no API | 02:06 |
| paultag | JanC: if it's baked in now, it should be a snap with the module system I have in there | 02:06 |
| paultag | but I don't have commit access anymore :) | 02:07 |
| paultag | so someone else do it :) | 02:07 |
| mhall119 | paultag: python-unity-singlet is in the Precise Universe | 02:07 |
| paultag | mhall119: rockn' | 02:07 |
| paultag | mhall119: I'll be uploading python-sunlight to debian soon I think | 02:07 |
| mhall119 | awesome | 02:08 |
| mhall119 | between the two, making a politics lens will be easy | 02:08 |
| YoBoY | JanC: there is still enought live cds left from the fosdem for your next events ? | 02:08 |
| paultag | mhall119: jeppers | 02:08 |
| JanC | YoBoY: I just sent 80 CDs to Hasselt & Genk ;) | 02:08 |
| paultag | mhall119: I might have a contribution for you in a week or so | 02:08 |
| paultag | mhall119: and by you, I mean the community folks, because I want LWN and I'm going to use code as bribery | 02:09 |
| JanC | will provide most of the rest to the large 2-day computer fair in Antwerp | 02:09 |
| JanC | not only FOSDEM leftovers BTW, also CDs from the box we got as a locoteam | 02:09 |
| YoBoY | ok, good :) I still have around 200 here | 02:10 |
| JanC | I also got about 150 leftover Kubuntu CDs from the KDE booth... | 02:10 |
| JanC | (they only got their CDs at FOSDEM somewhere during Sunday...) | 02:11 |
| JanC | we provided them with our own Kubuntu CDs on Saturday ;) | 02:12 |
| JanC | but not too many of them available of course | 02:12 |
| YoBoY | it's better than nothing | 02:13 |
| JanC | well, not sure what to do with the Kubuntu ones, they aren't really what we need for our booths | 02:13 |
| JanC | maybe the Antwerp fair is slightly different, but still | 02:14 |
| YoBoY | I give them to the volunteers on our ubuntu party | 02:14 |
| JanC | I don't have 150 volunteers :P | 02:14 |
| YoBoY | ^^" | 02:14 |
| JanC | actually, i think some of those 150 got distributed to some school already (by a Kubuntu fan) | 02:15 |
| YoBoY | same here, people take what they want, and some give them to schools, at work, ... | 02:16 |
| JanC | we use most of the CDs at computer fairs though, where it's less useful to confuse people with 13.7 different variations of the same | 02:17 |
| YoBoY | sure, but we have our french edition for that :) | 02:18 |
| JanC | right | 02:18 |
| JanC | we have been thinking about something like that, except we'd need a Dutch/French/German/English edition or something like that ;) | 02:19 |
| JanC | an that probably won't fit on a CD... | 02:19 |
| YoBoY | difficult yes to have all the languages on one cd :] | 02:20 |
| JanC | not to mention Turkish, Arabic, ... :P | 02:20 |
| JanC | I actually installed Ubuntu in Turkish once | 02:21 |
| JanC | at one of those computer fairs | 02:21 |
| YoBoY | the translation is good ? | 02:21 |
| JanC | appaently | 02:22 |
| JanC | there was this guy of Turkish decent, but born in Belgium (and speaking Dutch), who just married a Turkish girl who didn't know much Dutch yet (and only some English) | 02:23 |
| JanC | and they bought a second hand laptop and asked us to install Ubuntu on it | 02:24 |
| JanC | (apparently there is no Turkish MS Windows available in Belgian shops, and certainly not on that computer fair) | 02:25 |
| JanC | so I installed it in Turkish all the way (including the installer) | 02:25 |
| YoBoY | you are crazy ^^" | 02:25 |
| YoBoY | for that type of install, i would have done it in english and installed the language pack after | 02:26 |
| JanC | I knew the positions of most answers, and asked the couple to translate if I wasn't sure ☺ | 02:26 |
| JanC | this way, it was easier to engage them | 02:27 |
| JanC | and show it was really multilingual :P | 02:27 |
| YoBoY | sure :) | 02:27 |
| YoBoY | time to sleep ^^ good night | 02:29 |
| JanC | YoBoY: big tip: try to get Ubuntu in schools that still teach latin | 02:29 |
| JanC | they will really drool on this OS which is available in latin, has a latin word processor, a latin spellchecker, etc. | 02:30 |
| JanC | same if you know places/associations that teach/use esperanto | 02:32 |
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| YoBoY | good morning | 09:17 |
| YoBoY | JanC: I tried once with an esperanto association, they seem interested but not enough :) | 09:19 |
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| paultag | mhall119: hey dude | 23:28 |
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