[00:52] ping locoteam members [01:06] czajkowski, itnet7, greg-g: I am just reading some of my locoteam members think we need to go up for re-approval next Thursday, but strangely enough, as the locoteam contact I didn't get any mails about that, surely something must be wrong here? [01:07] SergioMeneses: you too ^^^ [01:07] jalrnc, hello... [01:07] either somebody in my locoteam is confused, or I didn't get contacted about this? [01:10] JanC, Can you give me the launchpad page? [01:11] SergioMeneses: launchpad page of what? our locoteam? [01:11] it's ~ubuntu-be [01:12] http://loco.ubuntu.com/teams/ubuntu-be [01:12] jalrnc, date -> 2012-02-16 [01:12] clearly, I'm listed as the contact person, but didn't get contacted [01:13] so something went wrong? [01:14] JanC, when you realized that the date was about to end? [01:15] I'm not sure how some other locoteam members knew this, and started preparing things for a reapproval this week, but I *am* somewhat disturbed about how I never got contacted... [01:16] I don't expect an answer from them before tomorrow anyway [01:16] or maybe Monday [01:17] about how/when they found out [01:18] JanC, mmm.... [01:20] but IMO it doesn't matter how they found out, I want to know why *I* wasn't informed by the loco council... [01:21] JanC: was a re-approval bug not filed? [01:21] paultag: how should I know? [01:21] JanC: it would have told you [01:21] JanC: and you would have been subscribed as the owner of the team [01:21] I didn't get informed at least... [01:21] I am not the owner [01:22] I am the loco contact [01:22] JanC: who's the owner? [01:22] which is the person-to-contact [01:22] I understand [01:22] JanC: who's the owner? [01:22] the date is correct ... about e-mail: I do not know because your not the official contact ... the more likely the official contact has been reported about the reapproval [01:23] JanC, ↑↑↑ [01:23] JanC: did the owner get a mail? [01:23] https://launchpad.net/~markvdb [01:23] but he was probably extremely busy with FOSDEM lately [01:23] paultag, JanC is not the contact... [01:23] SergioMeneses: 01:22 < JanC> I am the loco contact [01:23] SergioMeneses: sorry? [01:23] SergioMeneses: owner / admin != contact for a lot of cases [01:23] SergioMeneses: it's a common mistake [01:24] paultag, you're right!... [01:24] I know I am :) [01:24] SergioMeneses: see http://loco.ubuntu.com/teams/ubuntu-be --> I'm the contatc ☺ [01:24] SergioMeneses: I did do this for like 2 years :) [01:24] you have to manually verify each re-app [01:24] I was on the loco council too ;) [01:24] JanC: yeah yeah, join the club :) [01:24] JanC, nice [01:25] which is why I'm a bit disturbed ;) [01:25] JanC++ [01:25] JanC: I had a killer workflow when I was "in office" :) [01:26] well, I happened to be working with a locoteam that wasn't very responsive at he end, which killed almost all workflow, but yeah... :P [01:27] :P [01:28] anyway, I guess we can still go up for reapproval next Thursday (thanks to our anarchistic team structure) [01:28] but I'd still like to know what went wrong... [01:28] JanC, look https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LoCoCouncil/Agenda [01:28] JanC: I don't know how it goes now, but in the case of a screwup on the LC side, I've seen a lot of extentions to the end of the cycle [01:28] JanC: I wonder if czajkowski / SergioMeneses would be +1 to that [01:29] I only see Netherlands.... [01:29] that was in January [01:30] or added in January? [01:31] anyway, I think we can manage (after all we only have to list what we did/do, not to invent anything new ;) ) [01:32] hm, next meeting is scheduled for much later it seems? [01:32] now I'm even more confused [01:33] let me check with my team members about his ;) [01:33] JanC, The next meeting is scheduled for Tuesday 21th February 2012, 20:00 UTC and and will be held in #ubuntu-meeting on irc.freenode.net. [01:34] which is after February the 16th... [01:35] but OTOH, the conditions for the reapproval process aren't met: the locoteam contact was never contacted about this [01:36] JanC, look https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LoCoCouncil/TeamApprovalGuidelines [01:37] SergioMeneses: no, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LoCoCouncil/LoCoTeamReApproval [01:37] """The LoCo Council will attempt to contact the LoCo team a reasonable number of times (3) over a reasonable period (1 month). We do this by creating a bug and emailing the team contact. """ [01:37] I didn't get a single mail, let alone 3 [01:37] SergioMeneses: did the admin respond? [01:37] (and yes i checked my spam folder) [01:38] SergioMeneses: did you use lintco? [01:38] I'm not using my pc [01:38] sorry, what? [01:38] SergioMeneses: did someone file the bugs with lintco? [01:38] laptop [01:39] SergioMeneses: and was the admin responding to the inquery? [01:39] (sp, sorry) [01:43] the admin is not the loco contact, and as said before was very busy with having 2 jobs & organizing FOSDEM recently... [01:43] that's why there is a loco contact... [01:44] JanC, in LP the admin is https://launchpad.net/~markvdb [01:45] SergioMeneses: I already told you so ☺ [01:45] but admin is not relevant [01:49] anyway, let's further discuss this tomorrow, it's almost 3am here, and I hope to get some more info from my team tomorrow [01:51] (discussion about this on the ML started last Thursday apparently, but I was sick then and didn't catch up until today) [01:51] JanC, please write us an email!... [01:52] JanC: request an extention to the end of the cycle even if you don't need it [01:52] JanC: it was standard practice a few months ago [01:53] I suppose we will need an extension anyway, as there is no loco council meeting on the 16th ☺ [01:53] but yes, I will write [01:54] (after I clear up what happened in the locoteam also--that's some disadvantage of being a bit anarchistic, I guess ;) ) [01:55] paultag, JanC look https://picasaweb.google.com/101586564530051299524/Ubuntu#5708061646893615634 [01:56] yeah [01:56] locolint _admin_ :) [01:56] I mean, that's why it happened [01:56] but it should have been checked manually [01:57] paultag, that's true [01:57] :S [02:00] how lintco works when the owner is a team ? :) (you can try with ubuntu-fr) [02:00] YoBoY: not to mention, when the contact is a team? ;) [02:01] we cheated to avoid this case, our contact was on the LC ^^" [02:02] LOL [02:02] I was too, at some time [02:02] but that shouldn't be a requirement :P [02:02] +1 :) [02:03] YoBoY: if it's a team, it should recurse all the members [02:03] so, let's figure this out tomorrow (we're all past 3am here, I assume) [02:03] YoBoY: my hometeam was team-managed, so I think I had it in mind [02:04] yep [02:05] yep it does [02:05] awesome [02:06] oh snap, forgot I wrote a manpage for i t [02:06] lulz, it has FBAUTOSTART(1) at the bottom [02:06] now make it parse the contact entry in the loco portal, please ☺ [02:06] JanC: at the time there was no API [02:06] JanC: if it's baked in now, it should be a snap with the module system I have in there [02:07] but I don't have commit access anymore :) [02:07] so someone else do it :) [02:07] paultag: python-unity-singlet is in the Precise Universe [02:07] mhall119: rockn' [02:07] mhall119: I'll be uploading python-sunlight to debian soon I think [02:08] awesome [02:08] between the two, making a politics lens will be easy [02:08] JanC: there is still enought live cds left from the fosdem for your next events ? [02:08] mhall119: jeppers [02:08] YoBoY: I just sent 80 CDs to Hasselt & Genk ;) [02:08] mhall119: I might have a contribution for you in a week or so [02:09] mhall119: and by you, I mean the community folks, because I want LWN and I'm going to use code as bribery [02:09] will provide most of the rest to the large 2-day computer fair in Antwerp [02:09] not only FOSDEM leftovers BTW, also CDs from the box we got as a locoteam [02:10] ok, good :) I still have around 200 here [02:10] I also got about 150 leftover Kubuntu CDs from the KDE booth... [02:11] (they only got their CDs at FOSDEM somewhere during Sunday...) [02:12] we provided them with our own Kubuntu CDs on Saturday ;) [02:12] but not too many of them available of course [02:13] it's better than nothing [02:13] well, not sure what to do with the Kubuntu ones, they aren't really what we need for our booths [02:14] maybe the Antwerp fair is slightly different, but still [02:14] I give them to the volunteers on our ubuntu party [02:14] I don't have 150 volunteers :P [02:14] ^^" [02:15] actually, i think some of those 150 got distributed to some school already (by a Kubuntu fan) [02:16] same here, people take what they want, and some give them to schools, at work, ... [02:17] we use most of the CDs at computer fairs though, where it's less useful to confuse people with 13.7 different variations of the same [02:18] sure, but we have our french edition for that :) [02:18] right [02:19] we have been thinking about something like that, except we'd need a Dutch/French/German/English edition or something like that ;) [02:19] an that probably won't fit on a CD... [02:20] difficult yes to have all the languages on one cd :] [02:20] not to mention Turkish, Arabic, ... :P [02:21] I actually installed Ubuntu in Turkish once [02:21] at one of those computer fairs [02:21] the translation is good ? [02:22] appaently [02:23] there was this guy of Turkish decent, but born in Belgium (and speaking Dutch), who just married a Turkish girl who didn't know much Dutch yet (and only some English) [02:24] and they bought a second hand laptop and asked us to install Ubuntu on it [02:25] (apparently there is no Turkish MS Windows available in Belgian shops, and certainly not on that computer fair) [02:25] so I installed it in Turkish all the way (including the installer) [02:25] you are crazy ^^" [02:26] for that type of install, i would have done it in english and installed the language pack after [02:26] I knew the positions of most answers, and asked the couple to translate if I wasn't sure ☺ [02:27] this way, it was easier to engage them [02:27] and show it was really multilingual :P [02:27] sure :) [02:29] time to sleep ^^ good night [02:29] YoBoY: big tip: try to get Ubuntu in schools that still teach latin [02:30] they will really drool on this OS which is available in latin, has a latin word processor, a latin spellchecker, etc. [02:32] same if you know places/associations that teach/use esperanto === cprofitt_ is now known as cprofitt === cprofitt_ is now known as cprofitt [09:17] good morning [09:19] JanC: I tried once with an esperanto association, they seem interested but not enough :) === Ronnie1 is now known as Ronnie === tsimpson_ is now known as tsimpson [23:28] mhall119: hey dude