[00:00] <escott> MoleMan, so boot the normal livecd, then mount your ubuntu partition to /media/ubuntu with sudo mkdir /media/ubuntu; sudo mount /dev/sda# /media/ubuntu; you then have to bind mount /proc and /dev and maybe /sys with sudo mount -o bind /proc /media/ubuntu/proc (same for dev and sys); mount the new boot partition with sudo mount /dev/sda1 /media/ubuntu/boot; finally then sudo chroot /media/ubuntu; at this point you should be inside your ub
[00:00] <escott> untu system as if it had booted more or less normally
[00:00] <c_smith_> hey, I got a new Desktop, and I have no monitor to hook it up to, and I really would like to get started on installing Ubuntu 11.10 on it, and saw that it had an S-Video out jack, and found a VCR that has a similar jack (S-VIDEO out), and I'm wondering whether I can connect the 2 safely to get the PC to display on the TV.
[00:00] <medeman> and thanks to everybody who helped me, good night/day
[00:00] <Ho^Oh> Oer: What I really need is DEBOOTSTRAP into Raid0 tutorial.          Which doesn't seem to be out here.
[00:00] <c_smith_> I have a monitor at home.
[00:00] <MoleMan> escott: so i need a normal disk not server?
[00:01] <escott> MoleMan, you can use either. everything you are doing is command line. so just boot to a normal commandline on the cd
[00:01] <bulletxt> does someone know why ubuntu wants to install postfix when doing do-release-upgrade on ubuntu 8.04 (upgrades to 10.04)?
[00:01] <Ho^Oh> The steps/path names changes in between tutorials and I do not know which is which. (sda/md0) because the tutorials were not made for my situation.
[00:02] <Gentoo64> c_smith_: possibly, try it...
[00:02] <Gentoo64> c_smith_: i dont hear that used very often though :)
[00:02] <fellayaboy> how can i see the commands for those in /etc/init.d/??i tried man and --help but im doing it wrong
[00:02] <c_smith_> ok, I have a 32" TV at home with VGA, HDMI, and a bunch of other ports in the back if this doesn't pan out.
[00:03] <overclucker> fellayaboy: not all the init scripts are even functional
[00:03] <fellayaboy> i see
[00:03] <c_smith_> and I'd need to find said cord in a box full of 'em. :P
[00:03] <fellayaboy> well for those that are functional...is their a way
[00:03] <Gentoo64> c_smith_: your best bet would be the vga or hdmi
[00:03] <fellayaboy> or do i have to look at scattered documenations found in other folders and such
[00:03] <cppdev> I love linux :)
[00:04] <c_smith_> Gentoo64, true dat, gotta love VGA.
[00:04] <Gentoo64> yea im still using vga
[00:04] <overclucker> fellayaboy: mostly you'll only have stop start reload and force-reload.
[00:05] <fellayaboy> where can i see info about my vpn malfunctioning..which logs
[00:05] <c_smith_> Gentoo64, funny thing is the tower seems to have one of the latest iteration of VGA, and 2 old VGA ports..... strange, never seen one like that.
[00:05] <akSeya> folks.. quick question, i need to change some setting on kernel .config but when I run "make modules", scripts/kconfig/conf --silentoldconfig Kconfig is run and is overwrite .config
[00:05] <c_smith_> it was custom built for someone who is no longer alive.
[00:05] <akSeya> what can I do?
[00:05] <tristan3199us> so after upgrading to 11.10 my speakers started "hissing" loudly.. seems like something to do with my drivers..
[00:06] <priXon`> does ubuntu support multiple monitors (i.e. connecting the notebook to the tv for example)? because on my old r60, I've never managed to enable it in a suitable manner
[00:06] <overclucker> fellayaboy: and i forgot status
[00:06] <t432> I am unable to login after adding a file to the etc/profile.d/... how can i remove this file?
[00:06] <Gentoo64> c_smith_: theres only 1 vga afaik
[00:06] <c_smith_> priXon`, yes it does, and it's easy to set up.
[00:06] <fellayaboy> start stop reload and status
[00:06] <fellayaboy> got it
[00:06] <fellayaboy> thanks overclucker
[00:06] <tristan3199us> anyideas how to fix this??
[00:06] <c_smith_> Gentoo64, yeah, as far as I can tell, the difference is purely looks.
[00:06] <overclucker> fellayaboy: you can read the initscript with a text editor
[00:07] <ActionParsnip> tristan3199us: try:  killall pulseaudio; rm -r ~/.pulse*          wait a little while then try some sound stuff
[00:07] <fellayaboy> wheres the initscript
[00:07] <c_smith_> the other two ports just look older (with pins sticking out)
[00:07] <overclucker> fellayaboy: /etc/init.d
[00:07] <priXon`> ok, thanks
[00:07] <fellayaboy> oh what will that tell me...
[00:07] <MoleMan> escott: does it matter if the new boot partition is sda4 it canvstill be flagged as the boot partition?
[00:07] <fellayaboy> the commands for each daemon/
[00:07] <t432> anyone?
[00:08] <c_smith_> priXon`, if you want, I could point you to the app you would search for in Unity.
[00:08] <escott> MoleMan, that shouldn't matter just be sure to reference the correct partitions in all your mounts (i've been assuming boot was sda1 so you would use sda4)
[00:09] <tristan3199us> actionParsnip: thank you.. it did turn off pulseaudio, however it still hisses at me..
[00:09] <priXon`> c_smith_, please do. although now, on my r60, i'm still using 10.04 (and I've got some problems because of ati radeon mobility)
[00:10] <fellayaboy> whats the log to see for checking whats wrong with network connections??
[00:10] <ActionParsnip> tristan3199us: what is the output of:    wget -O alsa-info.sh http://www.alsa-project.org/alsa-info.sh && chmod +x ./alsa-info.sh && ./alsa-info.sh
[00:10] <overclucker> fellayaboy: init.d isn't really used very much in ubuntu, mostly it's ontrolled with sudo service start|stop|reload with configs in /etc/init
[00:10] <c_smith_> priXon`, this is assuming you are using Unity, open up the dash, and search "display" it'll be the one with the monitor with measuring tools on it.
[00:11] <fellayaboy> iooh
[00:11] <MoleMan> escott: should the files be in /boot? they appear to be in /boot/boot
[00:11] <escott> MoleMan, that would be the problem then. move them down a level
[00:11] <overclucker> fellayaboy: erm, sudo service SERVICE  start|stop|reload|status
[00:12] <MoleMan> escott: you mean up to /boot/?
[00:12] <escott> MoleMan, mv /boot/boot/* /boot/
[00:12] <priXon`> and then I will find it under `display`?
[00:12] <fellayaboy> oh overclucker yeah i know..its for starting , stopping etc daemons
[00:12] <escott> MoleMan, then you can verify that /boot/boot is empty and rm -rf /boot/boot
[00:13] <MoleMan> whats the operand to move folders aswell?
[00:14] <escott> MoleMan, * will move folders down. it will complain that it can't move something to itself but it just means that the .. link in /boot/boot can't be moved to /boot
[00:15] <overclucker> fellayaboy: you could also find any config files the vpn daemon uses in /etc and check them for log locations
[00:15] <fellayaboy> true
[00:15] <fellayaboy> brb
[00:15] <tristan3199us> actionparsnip: http://www.alsa-project.org/db/?f=bf1b3a708246268ef5e2bce56652e0789fa3fd53
[00:17] <MoleMan> ah it was becase there was already a grub folder it wouldnt let me replace
[00:17] <escott> MoleMan, because of the grub install. its not too important. the main thing is the kernel. just rerun the grub-install and update-grub and dont worry about grub related files
[00:17] <soul> Hello I have a question regarding of my radio tray. It shows playing a music with the title but I can't hear anything sound from radio tray. My audio works fine by the way, only my radio tray does not.
[00:18] <escott> MoleMan, so verify that you have the kernel and initrd where they should be in /boot and then let grub-install and update-grub fix the rest of the problems
[00:20] <MoleMan> need another initramfs or not?
[00:21] <escott> MoleMan, it wont hurt
[00:21] <prakas> why openjdk-6-jre takes 100% cpu when using vuze? a bug?
[00:22] <tristan3199us> actionparsnip: any ideas to what is happening??
[00:22]  * MoleMan prays
[00:23] <ActionParsnip> tristan3199us: not sure but keep hold of that URL.
[00:24] <jschall> how do i get rid of xorg-edgers? ppa-purge goes nuts and wants to hose my system
[00:25] <dns53> jschall there is a tool called ppa-purge to remove any packages installed by a ppa and install the standard version
[00:25] <MoleMan> right, it boots, how do i add the existing  partition to the lvm and keep all files?
[00:25] <Jordan_U> !details | jschall
[00:25] <jschall> dns53: and here's what it wants to do: http://pastebin.com/D83X7Z4N
[00:25] <jschall> Jordan_U: http://pastebin.com/D83X7Z4N
[00:26] <escott> MoleMan, so at this point since you will be modifying the / partition you will have to work from a livecd because you cannot modify a mounted partition
[00:26] <tristan3199us> actionparsnip: will do.. u think maybe my sound driver has changed??
[00:26] <soul> Hello I have a question regarding of my radio tray. It shows playing a music with the title but I can't hear anything sound from radio tray. My audio works fine by the way, only my radio tray does not.
[00:27] <_numbers> just upgraded to 11.10 and in gnome3 when i go to system settings > display i get an error "Could not get screen information" "RANDR extension is not present"
[00:27] <Sentridoh> hey everyone
[00:27] <_numbers> so i go `sudo apt-get install xrandr` and i get an error "E: Package 'xrandr' has no installation candidate"
[00:27] <dns53> jschall hmm you might have some trouble there, you might have to work out what packages were installed  from that ppa yourself and work out the versions yourself using aptitude
[00:28] <_numbers> "However the following packages replace it:   x11-xserver-utils:i386 x11-xserver-utils"
[00:28] <ActionParsnip> tristan3199us: it will be the same driver, just a different build..
[00:28] <dns53> jschall could you file a bug with ppa-purge?
[00:28] <c_smith_> _numbers, what are you trying to do with xrandr?
[00:28] <_numbers> i just want to open the Display settings from System Settings
[00:28] <c_smith_> _numbers, you might try installing libxrandr
[00:29] <c_smith_> _numbers, aside from that, I don't know that xrandr can be installed by itself. and I'm pretty sure Xrandr is just a library.
[00:29] <_numbers> libxrandr2 is already the newest version.
[00:29] <_numbers> it used to be a binary
[00:29] <c_smith_> _numbers, then you have it.
[00:30] <c_smith_> _numbers, but I'd try installing the packages that it lists that replace what you are trying to install.
[00:30] <jschall> dns53: i don't have the first clue how to resolve this manually...
[00:30] <MoleMan> escott: ok, the last bit i had to do from busybox but im not sure it will work for next bit due to limited functionality  will desktop livecd do\?
[00:31] <c_smith_> _numbers, if it says they are installed, chance are you already have it.
[00:31] <escott> MoleMan, What last bit?
[00:31] <_numbers> x11-xserver-utils is already the newest version.
[00:31] <_numbers> i have it in /usr/bin/xrandr
[00:31] <_numbers> maybe i need to run it
[00:31] <MoleMan> fixing the boot
[00:31] <_numbers> "RandR extension missing"
[00:31] <escott> MoleMan, but it does boot at this point
[00:31] <MoleMan> yes
[00:32] <_numbers> maybe after upgrade i need to reinstall nvidia driver
[00:32] <c_smith_> _numbers, give me a second.
[00:32] <escott> MoleMan, and its booting to a complete system with the new boot partition. You could verify by umounting the /boot and removing any files in the /boot folder that was hidden underneath the partition
[00:33] <overclucker> jschall: apt-get remove the package, apt-get autoremove, remove the ppa from /etc/apt/sources.list.d/ ; apt-get update; apt-get install package
[00:33] <dns53> jschall  bring up aptitude, go to the package, down the bottom of each package screen is a list of versions available
[00:33] <bobo37774> How to reset dconf settings and recreate  ~/.config/dconf?
[00:33] <dsnyders> Hi all!  Where do you put nameserver addresses now that /etc/resolv.conf can be overwritten at a whim by the network manager?
[00:33] <dns53>  jschall are you using a versison of ppa-purge from the ppa-purge ppa?
[00:33] <c_smith_> _numbers, ok, try installing "Grandr" then run Grandr when it's done.
[00:34] <jschall> dns53: no
[00:34] <MoleMan> yes
[00:34] <c_smith_> _numbers, just so you know, Grandr is a GTK interface for Xrandr.
[00:34] <_numbers> Xlib:  extension "RANDR" missing on display ":0".
[00:34] <_numbers> RandR extension missing
[00:34] <_numbers> thats what grandr says
[00:34] <c_smith_> _numbers, ok, I'm stumped here, give me a second to google this.
[00:35] <jschall> dns53: should i be?
[00:35] <ActionParsnip> dsnyders: in network manager
[00:35] <_numbers> one site says Xinerama and RandR are rivals
[00:35] <_numbers> i am using xinerama
[00:35] <ActionParsnip> dsnyders: set the interface to DHCP (address only) and you can specify DNS servers manually
[00:35] <escott> MoleMan, in that case then you need to boot the livecd (and it might be helpful to have a gui for the next bit). And in the livecd you can take your backups and being the process of migrating to the lvm partitions
[00:36] <mou> who escott
[00:36] <jschall> dns53: i see no ppa-purge ppa
[00:36] <dns53> jschall it might work better than the included version
[00:36] <bobo37774> I tried to reset gnome-panel by deleting  ~/.config/dconf and ~/.config/gnome-panel. It was a pretty  stupid move. Now I do not know how to recreate them. Anybody  know?
[00:36] <dsnyders> ActionParsnip, the interface needs to be static.  Besides, I can't edit it.
[00:36] <ActionParsnip> dsnyders: you mean the IP must be static?
[00:37]  * MoleMan goes CD hunting  again
[00:37] <dsnyders> ActionParsnip, Yes, sorry about that.
[00:37] <c_smith_> _numbers, if tat's the case. I'd be careful with what you do, conflicting apps have the very real possibility of breaking a system, especially ones that integrate with an important part like X.org.
[00:38] <_numbers> "You need to enable the composite extension in your xorg.conf file."
[00:38] <_numbers> i have that disabled
[00:38] <_numbers> i have 4 monitors
[00:38] <c_smith_> _numbers, try enabling it then.
[00:39] <ActionParsnip> dsnyders: thats fine, you can set both IP and DNS in network manager
[00:39] <_numbers> ya i'll experiment. it wasn't working before but maybe now that i upgraded. trying bbl
[00:39] <c_smith_> _numbers, then reboot and see what happens. if anything goes wrong, come back here.
[00:39] <jschall> far as i can tell, ppa-purge is useless and resolving this manually is borderline impossible
[00:39] <overclucker> ActionParsnip: i bet it won't let him edit it
[00:40] <dsnyders> ActionParsnip, Where/how?  The edit button is greyed out.
[00:40] <_numbers> gnome terminal command for logout?
[00:41] <c_smith_> _numbers, sorry, can't help you there as I have no clue myself,
[00:41] <c_smith_> _numbers, keep telling myself to look that up.
[00:41] <_numbers> `service gdm restart` # doesnt work in 11.10 anymore
[00:41] <_numbers> whats the service called now
[00:42] <aztek[tum]> lightdm
[00:42] <escott> _numbers, gnome-session-quit?
[00:42] <_numbers> ok thx
[00:42] <c_smith_> _numbers, you might try 'service lightdm restart'
[00:43] <Daekdroom> You need sudo to use service command
[00:43] <overclucker> dsnyders: you can add a second interface which you can edit, though it doesn't fix the weird behavior of the ifupdown interface
[00:44] <zsolt_> hello.i made a user with shell /bin/false.can't kick it off nor deluser,because it currently logged in
[00:44] <federated_life> Hi Guys, whenever I ssh to a remote box it takes like 10 seconds for the password prompt to appear...before when I was using puttycm/putty, it was immediate, is there a delay that can be disabled?
[00:44] <helpdesk> @zsolt_ reboot and then terminate
[00:45] <overclucker> dsnyders: on my system i that's what i've done. new static interface, ifupdown disabled
[00:45] <helpdesk> federated_life: it may be the speed of your switch, did you change ports?
[00:46] <randomnewb> Is there a file system I should use for 1000s of files in a directory?
[00:46] <federated_life> nope, all network connections are the same
[00:46] <zsolt_> i know,that would be the easyest way.but what will happen,if this situation is on a production server?
[00:46] <ActionParsnip> dsnyders: is it for a wired connection?
[00:46] <ActionParsnip> overclucker: works here..
[00:46] <federated_life> yep, wired
[00:46] <federated_life> the user prompt comes up immediately
[00:46] <switchtech> zsolt_: aaah. hmmm let me check
[00:47] <dsnyders> ActionParsnip, Yes.  My eth0 somehow disappeared and overclucker helped me get it back, but it is now called ifupdown (eth0),  and I cannot edit it.
[00:47] <MoleMan> escott: right, i have ubutu desktop liveccd, what now?
[00:47] <switchtech> zsolt_: try this http://www.cyberciti.biz/tips/howto-linux-kill-and-logout-users.html
[00:47] <Jordan_U> randomnewb: In only one directory, or many directories with many (presumably small) files? What is your actual use case?
[00:48] <zsolt_> thank you
[00:48] <switchtech> the power of google
[00:48] <escott> MoleMan, take whatever backups you need, and then decide what approach to take
[00:48] <Drone4four> /proc/kcore has pushed my root partition to it's limit....file size view in konqueror says that kcore is taking up 131,000+ GBs. see here: http://picpaste.com/pics/kcore-VoFGLPYD.1329007655.png
[00:48] <zsolt_> funny,didn't help
[00:48] <Drone4four> i couldn't even save the 300kb png image to my home directory because apparently, "the disk is full"
[00:48] <switchtech> federated_life: are you connecting through terminal?
[00:48] <escott> MoleMan, (a) you can copy the data to a spare drive then create a new lvm partition to replace the existing / partition and then create a volume and copy the data back
[00:49] <federated_life> yes terminal
[00:49] <switchtech> and its the password req that takes a min to show?
[00:49] <federated_life> yep, like 5-10 secs
[00:49] <ActionParsnip> dsnyders: you can use /etc/network/interfaces   to set the IP, you can then manually populate /etc/resolv.conf    and uninstall network manager if you never want to use wifi easily...
[00:49] <escott> MoleMan, or (b) shrink the ext4, create the lvm, create the volume, move the data from the shrunken ext4 to the lvm, remove the ext4, grow the lvm
[00:50] <switchtech> seems like that is the "handshake" portion of the connection. Had the same prob with a older version of debian.
[00:50] <switchtech> have you tried updating openssh-server?
[00:50] <federated_life> I haven't, Ill give that a shot
[00:50] <SirLinux`> finnaly i got my new CD's of ubuntu hehe :D
[00:50] <SirLinux`> http://a6.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/s720x720/418782_342500049117653_2042010157_n.jpg
[00:51] <MoleMan> escott: oh fun. thats approx 140GB to transfer from one drive to another then
[00:51] <escott> MoleMan, yep. i dont know of any other way to do it though
[00:51] <escott> MoleMan, you could google around but what i saw suggested this is the only way
[00:51] <SirLinux`> 7 euros for 5 cd's set how awesome that can be
[00:51]  * SirLinux` in love with ubuntu
[00:52] <overclucker> dsnyders, ActionParsnip: /etc/NetworkManager/NetworkManager.conf is you;ll want to edit to make the changes stick
[00:52] <randomnewb> It's a picture collection, that has many files that can be sorted in to sub directories, but some of the directories could still have 1000s of files and it is not a static collection.
[00:52] <escott> Drone4four, /proc is a virtualfs nothing there should take actual disk space
[00:53] <switchtech> randomnewb: looks like a problem for a B-Tree enabled filesystem... have you tried ext4
[00:53] <randomnewb> I am using ext4.
[00:54] <ActionParsnip> overclucker: if you use interfaces file, network manager will not be able to manage the interface
[00:54] <switchtech> are you looking for a better way to index the files?
[00:54] <Drone4four> escott, yes, that's what the first links on Google say about kcore, but how then do you explain the "disk full" error message?  What is taking up all the space on my / partition?  Konqueror's file size view points to kcore
[00:54] <escott> Drone4four, i dont know but its not /proc
[00:54] <federated_life> switchtech: already have the newest per apt-get of both server and client openssh
[00:55] <dsnyders> ActionParsnip, I'll take that under advisement.  However, it was all working pretty harmoniously at one point (before I moved).
[00:55] <MoleMan> escott: how do i get lvms betwwen live cd & installation? just recreate?
[00:55] <escott> MoleMan, you'll have to create the lvm partition and then create the volumes within that partition
[00:56] <switchtech> federated_life: Try this http://www.cyberciti.biz/tips/howto-linux-kill-and-logout-users.html
[00:56] <switchtech> yetch
[00:56] <switchtech> sry
[00:56] <switchtech> one min
[00:56] <mkultra_> hello anyone home?
[00:56] <switchtech> federatetd_life: http://llbb.wordpress.com/2007/07/11/ssh-takes-exactly-1-minute-20-seconds-or-80-seconds/
[00:56] <randomnewb> switchtech: Better in which ways?
[00:56] <federated_life> switchtech: not sure why I would need to kill sessions, looking to decrease wait in handshake for password prompt
[00:57] <MoleMan> but once it exists here how do i load in perm installation?
[00:57] <switchtech> federated_life: it was a miss paste. check the second link..
[00:57] <zenon_> Greeting, how do I go about getting my sound card working?
[00:57] <switchtech> randomnewb: perhaps i did not understand your question
[00:58] <Drone4four> escott, what else could i try to troubleshoot my inability to save anything to my home directory because  "your disk is full"
[00:58] <federated_life> switchtech: this one looks promising, http://superuser.com/questions/62060/why-does-the-password-prompt-take-forever-when-i-ssh-into-my-ubuntu-9-05-serve
[00:58] <escott> Drone4four, gnome has a tool to analyze disk utility. i dont know what kubuntu has
[00:58] <randomnewb> What file system would give me the best performance in my case?
[00:58] <zenon_> dose this make sence to anyone? http://www.opensound.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=4200
[00:58] <almoxarife> is federated_life a link bot?
[00:59] <federated_life> almoxarife: only on thursdays
[00:59] <Rahail-M> HI every sorry got noobs quesiton. I need build ubunto desktop for low power use withouth powersupply and hard drive .. how can I do that and what kind of board can I use please advice
[00:59] <Rahail-M> one*
[00:59] <Drone4four> escott, i have the disk analyzer utility Baobab 3.2.1 running
[00:59] <Drone4four> i think that's the app you're thinking of
[00:59] <mkultra_> zenon press alt + f2 then paste this command in the window and hit run gnome-volume-control
[01:00] <switchtech> federated_life: disable gssapi-with-mic authentication in /etc/ssh/sshd_config:
[01:00] <switchtech> # GSSAPI options
[01:00] <switchtech> GSSAPIAuthentication no
[01:00] <switchtech> #GSSAPIAuthentication yes
[01:00] <switchtech> GSSAPICleanupCredentials no
[01:00] <switchtech> #GSSAPICleanupCredentials yes
[01:00] <FloodBot1> switchtech: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[01:00] <almoxarife> Rahail-M: thats not a noob question,
[01:00] <MoleMan> without power-supply? lol troll
[01:00] <mkultra_> yeah no kidding lol
[01:00] <switchtech> randomnewb: your using it...
[01:01] <switchtech> check out the time complexity for B-tree in best and worst cast on wikipedia...
[01:01] <Yabden> use a potato battery instead of a typical power supply
[01:01] <switchtech> randomnewb: O(nlogn) i think...
[01:01] <Rahail-M> almoxarife i do not know how lol
[01:01] <Rahail-M> Yabden i mean by not big powersupply
[01:02] <switchtech> federated_life: that work better for ya?
[01:02] <Rahail-M> small one where a small backup can run it because I need to set few desktop for small coumunity where they have pwoer propblems
[01:02] <Rahail-M> and they can not use 110K ps
[01:02] <nachi> hola a todos
[01:02] <nachi> hace tiempo que no entraba en este canal
[01:03] <escott> !es | nachi
[01:03] <mrred> hi
[01:03] <zenon_> Thank you MkUltra =)
[01:03] <nachi> no lo hago porque no tengo idea de cómo hablar inglés, jejeje
[01:03] <zenon_> Sound!
[01:03] <federated_life> switchtech: nope, restart ssh and set the value in sshd_config ( GSSAPIAuthentication no )
[01:03] <almoxarife> Rahail-M: even on batts you would need to recharge, solar? give the kids a merry--go-round attached to a generator?
[01:03] <nachi> adios
[01:03] <mrred> hi
[01:03] <overclucker> ActionParsnip: actually, i just found that removing the wired connection from /etc/network/interfaces remove the ifupdown interface, so there's proof that you're right
[01:03] <mkultra_> did that help u zenon_
[01:04] <Rahail-M> almoxarife yes
[01:04] <mrred> how is everyone?
[01:04] <zenon_> I'v not tred it yet
[01:04] <Drone4four> escott, the numbers don't add up: http://picpaste.com/pics/Baobab-7JajECMM.1329008630.png
[01:04] <Rahail-M> but need at low as possible this why i am here to get idea from the exparts
[01:04] <nisanona> ciao!
[01:04] <Rahail-M> who can guide me to right path
[01:04] <nisanona> hi
[01:04] <switchtech> federated_life: nuts... thought that had it, will leyt you know if I find anything
[01:04] <nisanona> list!
[01:04] <scanuks> hi , wanna see funny linux joke . http://9gag.com/gag/2594785 .dont forget to vote
[01:05] <escott> Drone4four, yeah thats not unusual, lots of reasons like virtualfs, sparse files, etc
[01:05] <precubcr> how do you reset yor password with NickServ ?
[01:05] <almoxarife> Rahail-M: but if you are serious look at the USB self contained thing some brit company just came out with, forget the name of the thing, cost aprox $35 USD
[01:05] <escott> Drone4four, and it may be seeing all that stuff in /mnt and thinking it is part of / as well
[01:06] <Fuchs> precubcr: /msg nickserv help set password when still identified, else: asking staff in #freenode
[01:06] <precubcr> thx Fuchs
[01:06] <federated_life> switchtech: its get stuck at determining realm for numeric host...maybe its my dns or smth ( http://codepad.org/YTPXeNqs )
[01:07] <zenon_> command not found?
[01:07] <urlin2u> scanuks, mmmm spam.
[01:07] <Rahail-M> almoxarife ok i wish you could tell me the name
[01:07] <zenon_> gnome-volume-control
[01:07] <zenon_> gnome-volume-control: command not found
[01:07] <switchtech> federated_life: do you have a static ip set on the SSH server?
[01:07] <scanuks> urlin2u: not spam its funny :D
[01:07] <federated_life> yes its static
[01:07] <mkultra_> do you run xubuntu or lubuntu or kubuntu?
[01:07] <zenon_> brain fart!
[01:08] <urlin2u> scanuks, lol spam on this channel. :)
[01:08] <mkultra_> if you dont you dont have a sound package installed
[01:08] <zenon_> whats the differences?
[01:08] <zenon_> or ideal behins each?
[01:08] <mkultra_> they run different programs
[01:08] <zenon_> ?
[01:08] <mkultra_> xfce's sound manager is not the same command as kde or lxde
[01:08] <zenon_> whats for what?
[01:09] <mkultra_> to fix your sound?
[01:09] <mkultra_> the mixer is first place i would look to fix it
[01:09] <almoxarife> Rahail-M: http://tech.slashdot.org/story/11/05/06/122233/a-25-pc-on-a-usb-stick
[01:10] <zenon_> it's old soundcard with joystick/MIDI serial port
[01:10] <switchtech> federated_life: try adding the server to the hosts file
[01:10] <switchtech> federated_life: /etc/hosts
[01:11] <zenon_> I found this http://www.opensound.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=4200
[01:11] <federated_life> switchtech: yes, its much faster when adding the ip to the hosts file, however I have like 200 servers to connect to
[01:12] <switchtech> it may be your dns? i take it that its on WAN right?
[01:12] <federated_life> nope, on a lan
[01:12] <randomnewb> Did some comparisons of filesystems, it's the huge amount of files making things slow.  Would having an SSD help here?
[01:12] <switchtech> federated_life: dedicated DNS server?
[01:13] <federated_life> private dns's
[01:13] <switchtech> federated_life: update the A records?
[01:13] <Rahail-M> almoxarife thank you
[01:13] <raido_> does anyone here use TrueCrypt?
[01:13] <federated_life> I won't be able to update the a records on the dns servers...odd thing is that it worked perfeclty from windows and putty
[01:13] <Rahail-M> any toher opttion that can be used to run ubuntu... sb?
[01:14] <Rahail-M> sbc
[01:14] <urlin2u> raido, 3rd party but whats up
[01:14] <raido_> I have a laptop with Ubuntu installed on it and I'm trying to encrypt the entire drive.  I can open the Volume Creation Wizard but I don't see the option to encrypt the entire drive
[01:14] <raido_> That option is missing.
[01:15] <switchtech> radio_: used to, but they did not release all their sorce code... use cryptsetup instead now...
[01:15] <raido_> Using this tutorial...  http://www.howtogeek.com/howto/6169/use-truecrypt-to-secure-your-data/
[01:15] <switchtech> radio_: http://sites.google.com/site/nuxnbolts/lujyfwapvu/cryptsetup
[01:15] <urlin2u> raido, are you sure you need to, if it breaks you may be a bit of trouble.
[01:15] <urlin2u> in
[01:16] <raido_> well, since it's a laptop I'd like to encrypt the entire thing since it's a mobile device and more prone to theft
[01:16] <raido_> thank you for the link
[01:16] <switchtech> federated_life: I think the terminal uses an additional check to "verify" the server it is connecting to...
[01:16] <raido_> looking at it now
[01:16] <MoleMan> escott: once data is in a lvm virtual device or whatever it is on the live cd how can i open it in my installation? doesnt the virtual storage have to be created in the OS it will be used in?
[01:17] <urlin2u> raido, faulty reasoning but hey its your data. ;)
[01:17] <federated_life> switchtech: ok I got it...adding GSSAPIAuthentication no to the local ~/.ssh/config file does it
[01:17] <escott> MoleMan, once you have moved the data you should chroot in again, make sure the lvm2 utils are installed and update the fstab, and also update-grub again
[01:17] <escott> MoleMan, and update-initramfs
[01:17] <switchtech> federated_life: wunderbar!~
[01:17] <federated_life> thanks for the help
[01:17] <switchtech> np
[01:17] <zsolt> if i delete a user's line from /etc/passwd is it equal to deluser user?
[01:17] <Drone4four> escott, solution found: http://picpaste.com/pics/xsession-errors-01iqMkwj.1329009454.png
[01:18] <Drone4four> it was .xsession-errors
[01:18] <Drone4four> 53GBs
[01:18] <raido_> urlin2u, what are the risks?  Is it really that dangerous?
[01:18] <mr_crunchy> yooo hi
[01:18] <escott> MoleMan, you may need to do something like add mod_md to your /etc/modules
[01:18] <MoleMan> escott: so when i chroot i have to create the virtual groups again?
[01:19] <escott> MoleMan, virtualgroups?
[01:19] <urlin2u> raido, if it breaks and your locked out it is not easy and may cost a lot of money to get in if even possible.
[01:19] <raido_> urlin2u, oh I see
[01:19] <switchtech> radio_: you can always try spideroak if you want an online solution, however it is still an issue if you forget your password...
[01:20] <raido_> urlin2u, I have backups of my data so if I messed up my laptop I could recover it (it would be a pain though)
[01:20] <raido_> switchtech,  thanks I've never heard of that one but I'll look it up
[01:20] <switchtech> radio_: https://spideroak.com/
[01:20] <urlin2u> raido, I would have backups for sure, sounds more reasonable if you do.
[01:21] <abs> i have been trying to instal the iwlwifi and each time i type make i get awarning $shell not set to bash and it never executes
[01:21] <overclucker> raido_: that option is missing on linux
[01:21] <abs> anyone can help ?
[01:21] <switchtech> show ip arp | include Gi7/17
[01:21] <switchtech> whoops wrong terminal....
[01:22] <raido_> overclucker,   ah that would explain it
[01:22] <zenon_> xubuntu xfce lubuntu lxde kubuntu kde, right or wrong?
[01:22] <raido_> overclucker,   I kept thinking that I installed it improperly or that the option was hidden somewhere,  I couldn't figure out what I was doing wrong
[01:22] <urlin2u> raido, you familiar with clonezilla?
[01:23] <mr_crunchy> quick question: I'm installing unbutu, is that helpfull for node.js i guess?
[01:23] <raido_> urlin2u,  no, what is it?
[01:23] <urlin2u> raido, it will clone HD's and partitions.
[01:23] <raido_> urlin2u,  ah, okay  I've been using HD clone
[01:23] <urlin2u> and the mbr is included
[01:23] <raido_> urlin2u,  I'll check it out   thanks :)
[01:24] <urlin2u> raido, no problem.
[01:24] <abs> so anyone ?
[01:24] <overclucker> raido_: check out LUKS with dm-crypt if you want encrypted partitions
[01:24] <chalcedony> *hugs* ActionParsnip :)
[01:25] <ActionParsnip> hi chalcedony
[01:25] <switchtech> abs: LMGTFY
[01:25] <abs> what ?
[01:25] <abs> switchtech what is lmgtfy
[01:25] <ActionParsnip> abs: let me google that for you = LMGTFY
[01:25] <Rahail-M> What are the other SBC can I use.. with UBUNTo desktop
[01:26] <raido_> overclucker,  will that allow my to encrypt my entire hard drive, or just create an encrypted partition?
[01:26] <ActionParsnip> Rahail-M: what is an SBC?
[01:26] <Rahail-M> board with out HD and PS
[01:26] <escott> raido, why do you care which one it is?
[01:26] <Rahail-M> just nomral ps
[01:26] <ActionParsnip> Rahail-M: so like a thin client?
[01:26] <switchtech> abs: (Let me google that for you) - http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=906865&highlight=can+-get+wireless+card+to+even+show+up
[01:27] <Rahail-M> yes
[01:27] <wessel> How do I boot from a USB pen drive? I disabled boot from HDD in the bios, and enabled USB, but still grub loads instead of the usb
[01:27] <abs> ActionParsnipah ok :D thanks
[01:27] <raido_> escott:   I'd like to set it up so that whoever starts my laptop has to enter the password before the OS boots
[01:27] <Rahail-M> like those option now days use by set top box
[01:27] <raido_> escott:   If that's possible on linux
[01:27] <abs> switchtech thanks
[01:27] <switchtech> np
[01:28] <raido_> escott:   I know the IT guys at my company have our laptops setup this way, but they use windows OS, not linux
[01:28] <SirLinux> hello guys, any ideea how i upgrade from 11.04 to 11.10 with the cd i purchased from ubuntu ?
[01:28] <ActionParsnip> Rahail-M: something like: http://www.disklessworkstations.com/   is that what you mean?
[01:29] <urlin2u> SirLinux, you can't use the standard path?
[01:29] <ActionParsnip> SirLinux: boot to the oneiric CD, upgrade will be an option
[01:29] <Rahail-M> ActionParsnip nope
[01:29] <Rahail-M> something like settop box
[01:29] <Rahail-M> beagleboard
[01:29] <Rahail-M> no idea
[01:29] <SirLinux> is nothing about upgrade when restarting the notebook and booting the cd
[01:29] <escott> raido, the dmcrypt way is to have a kernel that loads but  a rootfs that is encrypted so you can "boot" a kernel but its not going anywhere
[01:29] <SirLinux> i get only install and try demo
[01:29] <ActionParsnip> Rahail-M: if you don't know how do you expect anyone else to?
[01:30] <urlin2u> SirLinux, never have done it but it must be in the install gui's
[01:30] <urlin2u> from the desktop
[01:31] <switchtech> Rahail-M: not quite what you are looking for but try the Intel Essentials Series...
[01:31] <SirLinux> gksu "sh /media/cdrom/cdromupgrade"
[01:31] <SirLinux> done i find out how to do it
[01:31] <switchtech> or the Asus EEEPc
[01:31] <quiescens> raido_: most systems probably allow you to set a power on password in the bios setup anyway if all you want is a password
[01:31] <chalcedony> my husband's ubuntu 10.10 the bottom bar seems to be shoving all the icons way off to the right, he doesnt know what he did, and can't tell me. how can i fix it?
[01:31] <SirLinux> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/OneiricUpgrades#Upgrading_Using_the_Alternate_CD.2BAC8-DVD
[01:31] <SirLinux> hey chalcedony :p
[01:32] <chalcedony> SirLinux, *hugs*
[01:32]  * SirLinux hugs chalcedony 
[01:32] <chalcedony> :)
[01:32] <SirLinux> got my new cd's with ubuntu dear
[01:32] <raido_> escott:   I think I understand.  The kernel will load but the rootfs won't mount without the password?  Is that right?
[01:32] <ActionParsnip> SirLinux: so you don't get this option: http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_1QSDkzYY2vc/TZbVz-pmRKI/AAAAAAAAD1E/SZp2D-lZ8PM/s2000/upgrade-ubuntu11.04-livecd.png
[01:32] <chalcedony> wonderful SirLinux :)
[01:32] <SirLinux> ubuntu 11.10 and 11.10 server version
[01:32] <zenon_> (how cool is that! =D)
[01:32] <SirLinux> got it ActionParsnip , thanks for your time
[01:33] <mkultra_> pukedy puke id stick with 10.10 for a little bit longer lol
[01:33] <overclucker> raido_: and many laptops will give you trouble when it comes to clearing cmos
[01:33] <mkultra_> 11.04 seems rough, and 11.10 def needs moar development
[01:33] <zenon_> I not sure what laptop to get for linux
[01:33] <chalcedony> mkultra_, agreed
[01:33] <pkkid> Can someone help me figure out this forest of new window managers.  Basically I'm running Ubuntu 12.04 via Virtualbox on Win7 host in Seamless Mode.  I always used to run Gnome2 (2D mode works great).  But all these new window managers seem to run 3D mode and its really screwy in Virtualbox.
[01:33] <urlin2u> mkultra_, 11.04 to 11.10
[01:33] <Zilly> i hate 11.10 UI
[01:34] <raialomas> prova
[01:34] <mkultra_> my other pc had both in 1 day, it was a flipping mess
[01:34] <raialomas> !lisr
[01:34] <ActionParsnip> mkultra_: maverick is EOL in april, so you'll get no support or upgrades for Maverick
[01:34] <raialomas> !list
[01:34] <raido_> overclucker:  eek  I didn't know I had to clear the CMOS when installing truecrypt
[01:34] <pkkid> Cinnamon looks amazing to me, but it seems that is also a 3D window manager?
[01:34] <ActionParsnip> Zilly: don't use it
[01:34] <switchtech> brb
[01:34] <urlin2u> pkkid, 12.04 is #ubuntu+1
[01:34] <mkultra_> EOL u gotta be kidding
[01:34] <pkkid> urlin2u, thanks
[01:34] <srini> How to configure Android phone as modem in Ubuntu ??
[01:34] <ActionParsnip> mkultra_: not kidding
[01:34] <mkultra_> they better extend it and fix the 11 series
[01:34] <zenon_> hard lesson
[01:35] <SirLinux> weird is not working
[01:35] <ActionParsnip> mkultra_: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Releases
[01:35] <SirLinux> gksu "sh /media/cdrom/cdromupgrade" <-- it doesnt open anything
[01:35] <mkultra_> they EOL maverick im going to debian and telling chrome os im not gonna polish ubuntu no more
[01:35] <ActionParsnip> mkultra_: why not switch DE, Lubuntu runs flawlessly here
[01:35] <SirLinux> if i use a external dvd rom, is that a problem for that cmd ?
[01:36] <chalcedony> what's the bottom bar called?
[01:36] <ActionParsnip> SirLinux: as long as its mounted, the physicallity of the drive is irrelevant
[01:36] <mkultra_> i run xfce
[01:36] <urlin2u> SirLinux, are you not using a live cd not the alternative
[01:36] <Latco> hey guys. is there a way to disable runlevel 1 completely and irreversibily without having to recompile the kernel?
[01:36] <SirLinux> is mounted ofcourse
[01:36] <ActionParsnip> SirLinux: afaik, the alternate CD has that feature
[01:36] <SirLinux> is the cd i've got from ubuntu
[01:37] <mkultra_> i can actually do any DE i like its just 11 series was way way way too buggy for my tastes, especially the new kernel one
[01:37] <_numbers> im trying to figure out unity
[01:37] <mkultra_> nux 3.0
[01:37] <mkultra_> yeah unity needs alot of work
[01:37] <_numbers> im pressing some key and unity's dock is staying open
[01:37] <ActionParsnip> mkultra_: try precise,its pretty decent imho
[01:37] <SirLinux> a friend of mine upgraded the ubuntu with a cd like mine, he told me that is a cmd ..
[01:37] <_numbers> how do i get the dock to close
[01:37] <urlin2u> SirLinux, if it syas try ubuntu that is alive cd not the alternative.
[01:37] <_numbers> i mean the dash*
[01:38] <overclucker> raido_: no, you dont have to. just a comment on bios passwords being troublesome to reset on laptops
[01:38] <mkultra_> i wouldnt exactly say gnome 3 is stable yet
[01:38] <ActionParsnip> mkultra_: then use KDE...
[01:38] <mkultra_> this is a laptop lxde or xfce only im not gonna put that monster on here lol
[01:38] <urlin2u> SirLinux, besides ActionParsnip gave you the info to use that cd hit the install and choose the uopgrade when asked, the install from the dektop not at the boot.
[01:39] <urlin2u> desktop
[01:39] <mkultra_> i like the kde 3.5 feel, was very doze 2k style
[01:39] <SirLinux> it doesnt pop up urlin2u
[01:39] <wessel> How do I check if grub is installed on a usb pen drive?
[01:39] <raido_> overclucker:  ah, okay
[01:39] <SirLinux> i saw the link he gave me, but i dont see such menu nowhere
[01:39] <urlin2u> SirLinux, you on the desktop
[01:39] <SirLinux> notebook
[01:40] <mkultra_> i use a usb keyboard on my laptop lol
[01:40] <mkultra_> mac keyboard with usb hub, works great under linux
[01:40] <ActionParsnip> mkultra_: lxde has the kde 3.5 feel
[01:40] <urlin2u> SirLinux, desktop I mean the ubuntu desktop if you hit thr indtall about 4 guis in you will see that picture asking you how you want to install.
[01:40] <mkultra_> yeah LXDE is looking a bit more tasteful for the 11 series of ubuntus
[01:41] <SirLinux> if i hit thr indtall about 4 guis ?
[01:41] <mkultra_> dont know about 12, but i want my gnome working correctly
[01:41] <SirLinux> i'm lost ..
[01:41] <urlin2u> SirLinux, just to be safe here you aren't running a wubi are you?
[01:41] <ActionParsnip> mkultra_: http://dl.dropbox.com/u/8850924/Desktop.png ;)
[01:41] <SirLinux> hmm i think its wubi lol
[01:41] <Toph2> under 11.10, what keystroke brings up the desltop, or how do you bring it up otherwise?
[01:41] <bananstol> whitney huston is dead
[01:41] <bananstol> O_o
[01:41] <SirLinux> if you are talking about cd
[01:42] <mkultra_> lol thats hideous ActionParsnip
[01:42] <_numbers> i cant get Super-W to do anything, but Super-S does
[01:42] <ActionParsnip> bananstol: how is that ubuntu related
[01:42] <escott> raido_, yes
[01:42] <urlin2u> SirLinux, you don't use wubi's longterm nor do you upgrade them, at least not exspecting a solid system.
[01:42] <ActionParsnip> mkultra_: works well, uses 300Mb RAM for the whole lot
[01:42] <bananstol> ActionParsnip: it isn't, obviously
[01:42] <mkultra_> http://img683.imageshack.us/img683/4010/darksideo.jpg
[01:42] <zenon_> is she?
[01:42] <ActionParsnip> bananstol: then its offtopic here
[01:43] <zenon_> I was totaly doing the bodyform screams earyer!
[01:43] <ActionParsnip> mkultra_: too dark, and too much going on
[01:43] <cfhowlett> urlin2u: one broken wubi taught me to quit fooling around and learn to dual-boot properly.  Haven't had a boot problems since I made the switch.
[01:43] <escott> raido_, the only weakness i can imagine in that is someone who has physical access might install their own kernel that acts like a normal kernel but funnels all the data to their servers. but thats a weakness in truecrypt too. you just need a bios
[01:43] <mkultra_> very dark for basement dungeon use
[01:43] <SirLinux> the thing is urlin2u , how i make this upgrade start
[01:43] <urlin2u> cfhowlett, the designer of wubi even says not to use it long term
[01:44] <SirLinux> i'm on ubuntu 11.04 right now, i want to go on 11.10 from that cd
[01:44] <stacks`> if i run the following, I get (on my screen) bash: (path): Permission denied ... which is fine, that is correct.. but how do i get the following to not even show that output? --->  if echo "This is a write test preformed by " $USER > /home/project/management/secure/ms.txt 2> /dev/null; then echo "Write Successful"; else echo "Write Unsuccessful"; fi
[01:44] <SirLinux> is it possible ?
[01:44] <urlin2u> SirLinux, you don't you don't upgrade a wubi install.
[01:44] <mkultra_> my docks a bit more cleaned up now since i got cairo dock going
[01:44] <_numbers> where is the minimize icon in unity when a window is maximized already
[01:44] <ActionParsnip> SirLinux: you'll need to do it online with wubi.
[01:44] <SirLinux> i think i'm gonna upgrade it from updates
[01:45] <SirLinux> is the same thing right ?
[01:45] <mkultra_> yeah
[01:45] <mkultra_> id personally wipe and do a cd install
[01:45] <urlin2u> SirLinux, take a read of what the designer of wubi himself says. http://howsoftwareisbuilt.com/2009/03/12/interview-with-agostino-russo-wubi-ubuntu/
[01:45] <mkultra_> and partition your hard drive for a /home storage drive so you can easily wipe the system in the future
[01:46] <_numbers> oh there's no minimize in unity?
[01:46] <SirLinux> u know what i'm gonna do, upgrade it directly from update manager
[01:46] <SirLinux> cd or update manager, is the same right ?
[01:46] <zenon_> nice setup mkultra
[01:47] <mkultra_> ty zenon_
[01:47] <switchtech> SirLinux: you may just break it... make sure to backup
[01:47] <raido_> escott:  Okay, ty for the info.
[01:48] <switchtech> SirLinux: after the backup you can just type #sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[01:48] <_numbers> unity totally sucks
[01:48] <ActionParsnip> _numbers: don't use it
[01:48] <mkultra_> i dont like unity
[01:48] <_numbers> alternatives? i miss gnome 2
[01:48] <mkultra_> its not polished enough for my tastes, they are reinventing the wheel
[01:48] <_Marcus> Where can I get VBoxGuestAdditions.iso for Ubuntu?
[01:48] <mkultra_> cairo dock
[01:48] <ActionParsnip> _numbers: please, list all the other apps you think suck, we're all super interested.....
[01:49] <ActionParsnip> _numbers: kde, xfce, lxde, E17
[01:49] <p4ch0> I agree ... unity sucks
[01:49] <switchtech> ActionParsnip: allowance to pontificate?
[01:49] <_Marcus> Unity? Isn't that the new desktop?
[01:49] <ActionParsnip> _Marcus: its downloaded by virtualbox itself
[01:49] <Toph2> under 11.10, what keystroke brings up the desltop, or how do you bring it up otherwise?
[01:49] <_Marcus> ActionParsnip: But I need to put it into the CD drive of virtual box
[01:49] <ActionParsnip> _Marcus: its a shell for Gnome Desktop
[01:50] <ActionParsnip> _Marcus: yes, let the app download it, then turn off the VM and have it mounted at boot and you can use it
[01:50] <mkultra_> lol someone logging in with the name root
[01:50] <ActionParsnip> !rootirc | Guest24414
[01:51] <mkultra_> yeah thats why the LOL about it
[01:51] <srini> How to configure Android phone as modem in mint ??
[01:51] <srini> How to configure Android phone as modem in ubuntu/mint ??
[01:51] <_Marcus> srini: Is it Ubuntu, or is it Mint?
[01:52] <ActionParsnip> srini: mint isn't supported here
[01:52] <ActionParsnip> !mint | srini
[01:52] <ActionParsnip> srini: different server all together
[01:52] <Ho^Oh> Does Ubuntu AltInstaller allow me to SSH to it so I can continue/finish installing Ubuntu server?
[01:52] <zenon_> thanks for info, adios!
[01:52] <srini> i want to configure in ubuntu
[01:52] <MonkeyDust> srini  remember: the whole channel goes berserk by only *mentioning* the word mint
[01:53] <switchtech> Ho^ho: sure does... just make sure you install the ssh package on the installer screen...
[01:53] <ActionParsnip> srini: then why say Mint first...starnge that. I'd say you were after mint support.
[01:53] <Mish-> I'm installing 11.10 on a Dell R710 with a PERC 6i controller.  Non-LVM partitions are fine, but only the "last" listed LVM partition in fstab is mounted, the others fail.  I can "fix" this by dropping to a console and running "vgchange -a y" then "mount -a".
[01:53] <Mish-> To me it looks like a race condition, but I'd appreciate any help from anyone with experience with LVM on boot issues.
[01:53] <Mish-> Any thoughts?
[01:53] <_Marcus> MonkeyDust: What if they say "mint" as in "mint gum"
[01:54] <_numbers> sudo apt-get install xfce4
[01:54] <_numbers> restoring sanity 40% complete
[01:55] <ActionParsnip> _numbers: indeed :)
[01:55] <switchtech> _numbers: (Failed at 99%) do you want to reload?
[01:55] <ActionParsnip> _numbers: I prefer apt-fast but its all good
[01:56] <toilet> Hello everyone.  I just started up a blog where I write articles about new technology and things that affect the Linux community.  Would anyone like to see it?
[01:56] <jrib> !ot | toilet
[01:56] <switchtech> hmmmm articles from the toilet... not really...
[01:57] <Ho^Oh> switchtech: but wait a sec,           would I be able to use the terminal drawing interface for setting up RAID0?
[01:58] <toilet> if anyone would like to see my blog, i can send you the url
[01:58] <toilet> there are no ads on it whatsoever
[01:58] <ActionParsnip> toilet: try in #ubuntu-offtopic
[01:58] <switchtech> Ho^oh: you looking for a headless server? then forward the X11 interface to a seperate computer?
[01:59] <switchtech> lol @ toilet. may want to change your name,
[01:59] <switchtech> even if your blog is the S#!T
[01:59] <switchtech> lol
[02:00] <iena_chase_da_ma> hi
[02:00] <Ho^Oh> Wait what? it's just a remote server. It's already headless.         I'm having a headache trying to          Set up raid0,            install ubuntu using DEBOOTSTRAP.
[02:00] <switchtech> Ho^oh: unfamiliar... wait one...
[02:01] <switchtech> Ho^ho: like ham radio stuff?
[02:02] <k1ng__> what is better than ntop?
[02:02] <Ho^Oh> And stupid grub isn't set up right due to confusions of the whole  /dev/sda1        vs       /dev/md0               And no tutorial I've seen addressed this. Because it's aimed at Either doing  RAID0          OR        DEBOOTSTRAP,      Not BOTH.
[02:03] <Ho^Oh> Common sense says "just use /dev/md0", seems to work alright, but at the end of the tutorial, my server never comes back online.
[02:03] <switchtech> Ho^Oh: Sry, dont understand the setup.
[02:05] <burnt> hey, im using ubuntu 11.10  and have two monitors, I would like to be able to put a workspace in one monitor and another in another monitor and change work stations at will
[02:05] <burnt> is this possible
[02:06] <Ho^Oh> switchtech: I was using these tutorials: http://www.israelremixteam.com/how-to-set-up-a-software-mdadm-raid-0-array-in-linux-t612.html          http://forum.ovh.co.uk/showthread.php?t=3787
[02:06] <wessel> Can someone help me to remove grub from my USB device, partly the answer seems to be explained here: http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/linux-newbie-8/how-to-uninstall-grub-from-my-usb-719134/ but I'm still not sure how to proceed
[02:07] <Ho^Oh> I had to change some steps in between tutorial as it doesn't completely fit my situation.
[02:07] <escott> Ho^Oh, are you using mdadm raid or dmraid?
[02:07] <Ho^Oh> mdadm
[02:07] <zingaro> hello?
[02:08] <zingaro> how can i open my usb from ubuntu ??? when i plug it in no pop ups come up????
[02:08] <escott> Ho^Oh, why not just make yourself a non-raid boot partition and make your life substantially easier
[02:08] <switchtech> Ho^oh: now i get it... you may want to go an easier route using the LVM, Read the following and decide for yourself... http://www.linux-mag.com/id/7582/
[02:08] <jmoreira81> anyone know a good tutorial to install hamachi in ubuntu?
[02:09] <mkultra_> zingaro, alt + f2 gnome-terminal
[02:09] <Ho^Oh> escott: Because my friend wanted raid0.
[02:09] <mkultra_> in the terminal type lsusb
[02:09] <Ho^Oh> And for performance benefits.
[02:09] <escott> Ho^Oh, so the boot partition is read once
[02:09] <burnt> what is the movie player process called?
[02:09] <mkultra_> if your device shows up if its like a pen drive nautilus
[02:09] <ActionParsnip> burnt: totem
[02:09] <burnt> crashed on playing a .wmv file
[02:09] <cfhowlett> burnt: totem?
[02:09] <zingaro> @ mkultra a calculator came up?
[02:09] <burnt> ah
[02:09] <burnt> thanks
[02:09] <mkultra_> totem
[02:10] <zew803iffsdf> hi
[02:10] <cfhowlett> burnt: .wmv are not supported by default.  you need the ubuntu-restricted-extras for all codes
[02:10] <mkultra_> wmv lol
[02:10] <switchtech> burnt: or the w32codecs
[02:10] <zingaro> how can i format a usb then put a file in it?
[02:11] <mkultra_> cfdisk /dev/whateverusbis
[02:11] <ActionParsnip> zingaro: use gparted to format it
[02:11] <mkultra_> u might want to run gparted
[02:11] <zew803iffsdf> is this a room or channel?
[02:11] <ActionParsnip> zew803iffsdf: technically a channel
[02:11] <switchtech> zew803iffsdf: yes
[02:12] <zew803iffsdf> The only topic to talk about here is just if we have Ubuntu questions?
[02:12] <ActionParsnip> zew803iffsdf: read the motd when you came in "Official Ubuntu Support Channel"
[02:12] <zew803iffsdf> thanks Action
[02:12] <ActionParsnip> zew803iffsdf: suggestions can be posted on http://brainstorm.ubuntu.com
[02:12] <burnt> THANKS for the help peeps :) ... I asked this a while back but didnt get an answer ... wondering if anyone can help ... im using ubuntu 11.10  and have two monitors, I would like to be able to put a workspace in one monitor and another in another monitor and change work stations at will
[02:12] <burnt> is this possible
[02:13] <switchtech> burnt, sounds like what you want is a KVM
[02:13] <fellayaboy> what are as0t0 in ifconfig
[02:13] <zew803iffsdf> Do you guys use XChat?
[02:14] <switchtech> zew803iffsdf: irssi - go terminal or go home...
[02:14] <ActionParsnip> zew803iffsdf: some do
[02:14] <ActionParsnip> zew803iffsdf: I use pidgin and irssi
[02:14] <zew803iffsdf> I'm going to look into irssi
[02:15] <jmoreira81> wow people in this room are helpless...
[02:15] <ActionParsnip> jmoreira81: how so?
[02:15] <jmoreira81> ActionParsnip: no one's willing to help
[02:15] <switchtech> jmoreira81: i know a nice russian who would give an arm and a leg to say the same thing...
[02:15] <ActionParsnip> jmoreira81: i've been helping out... as have others
[02:16] <zew803iffsdf> jmoreira81: what's your question?
[02:16] <dRounse> i have a question about a server
[02:16] <holstein> jmoreira81: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p9wL3adKdhU
[02:16] <jmoreira81> zew803iffsdf: I'm trying to find good resources on installing hamachi in ubuntu
[02:16] <tarrence> Hi, I have Ubuntu running in a virtual machine on my mac and I want to switch the mapping of ctrl and command keys so that both os's match... How would I go about doing this?
[02:16] <zew803iffsdf> Ok hehe, don't yet konw about hamachi
[02:16] <holstein> tarrence: i would set that in virtualbox
[02:16] <ActionParsnip> tarrence: i'd ask in #vbox too
[02:16] <jmoreira81> yea… i saw that… but i need documented....
[02:17] <switchtech> dRounse: feur frei
[02:17] <Ho^Oh> What makes me mad is that I get bad kernels to work with: 2.6.38.2-xxxx-std-ipv6-64        Like, what the heck?!
[02:17] <tarrence> holstein: ActionParsnip : I'm using VMware Fusion
[02:17] <escott> tarrence, running gnome or unity go to keyboard preferences click on layout and then on the layouts tab click on options
[02:17] <ActionParsnip> jmoreira81: looks like its windows only. What are you trying to achieve?
[02:17] <holstein> tarrence: i would set them in there then.. im not sure where those are in VMware, just Vbox
[02:18] <urlin2u> jmoreira81,  3rd party not a channel norm at the least but lmgtfy, https://www.google.com/search?q=hamachi+ubuntu&btnG=Search&sclient=psy-ab&hl=en&site=webhp&source=hp&gbv=1&sei=_CA3T6voNsiYiAKfwYmlCg
[02:18] <burnt> switchtech, not really, or at least be able to see my panels on both monitors
[02:18] <ActionParsnip> tarrence: then #vmware
[02:18] <jmoreira81> tarrence: tried parallels? the new version rocks compared to wmware
[02:18] <switchtech> burnt: had some of the same frustration, finally went to GDM, (crunchbang distro)
[02:18] <tarrence> jmoreira81: VMWare works great for me.
[02:18] <canurabus> hey... could someone please help me understand a couple of things about themes in ubuntu? I'm trying to use this Gnome 3 theme: http://tiheum.deviantart.com/art/Holo-280076980
[02:18] <fellayaboy> could someone tell me whats as0t0 , 1 , 2 and 3 in ifconfig..does openvpn use thatz??
[02:19] <fellayaboy> i dont see my tun0
[02:19] <Zilly> how doth I maketh another account easily???
[02:19] <jmoreira81> ActionParsnip: I just need to access my network away from home...
[02:19] <dRounse> switchtech: i am building a home/file server and i have two mobos to pick from, i have a celeron d and an amd athlon ii, i need one for my desktop also, i feel like my processor is struggline (celeron d) when i am using file converters for mp3 and watching youtube, which should i use for my server
[02:19] <ActionParsnip> jmoreira81: but to achieve what?
[02:19] <jmoreira81> to work remotely
[02:19] <canurabus> and it kind of works, but the colors are different... ie, the screenshot has a dark background theme. How do I get those same colors in ubuntu?
[02:19] <ActionParsnip> jmoreira81: ok much easier, what apps will you be running?
[02:19] <holstein> dRounse: i would go with the quieter one
[02:20] <holstein> jmoreira81: team viewer is pretty easy, and free for personal use
[02:20] <jmoreira81> ActionParsnip: I need to access my file server… my files...
[02:20] <zew803iffsdf> commands
[02:20] <zew803iffsdf> !help
[02:20] <switchtech> dRounse: old hardware... which is the higher FSB and MHZ for the processor id use for the desktop, make the server a text only version to cut out the overhead... IMHO
[02:20] <holstein> jmoreira81: ssh is how i do that
[02:20] <burnt> switchtech, thanks for the help :) ... its anoying, a seen it setup on a friends
[02:20] <jmoreira81> ActionParsnip: more importantly mysql database
[02:20] <Zilly> how doth I maketh another user account easily???
[02:20] <ActionParsnip> jmoreira81: install openssh-server and you have an SFTP server which you can access your files over the internet securely with
[02:20] <burnt> but cannot ask him, out of the country now
[02:20] <switchtech> burnt: try compiz?
[02:20] <holstein> Zilly: sudo adduser username
[02:20] <jmoreira81> holstein: i use ssh too… but for development is not ideal for database access
[02:21] <ActionParsnip> jmoreira81:how do you interact with your SQL? Do you use terminal?
[02:21] <switchtech> burnt: or kidnap said friend and "acquire" the information...
[02:21] <holstein> jmoreira81: cool... ssh is the tool more prefer.. not sure what you'd rather use... ftp?
[02:21] <urlin2u> zilly or user accounts, you can tick admin there if needed.
[02:21] <urlin2u> Zilly,  ^^
[02:21] <jmoreira81> ActionParsnip: Yes but the CMS i'm using to needs to connect to mysql as well…. it's working well at home...
[02:21] <ModFather> Hi There i got some wierd problems with my ubuntu 11.10 oneiric , i cant ping my boxes, i can ping it from other network but from the same network i cant see each other,
[02:22] <Zilly> I'm using 10.04 and I don't have user accounts
[02:22] <jmoreira81> holstein: SSH is out of context here…. i need an app to access a database...
[02:22] <holstein> ModFather: did you set static IP's?
[02:22] <zew803iffsdf> To create a new user account: 1. Go to System settings ....... 2. Click on User Accounts ........ 3. Click "Unlock" to type your admin password.  ......... 4. Click the "+" button to add a new user.
[02:22] <switchtech> ModFather: gateway issues?
[02:22] <ActionParsnip> Zilly: you have one user account, the one you made when you first created the install...
[02:22] <_Marcus> I have lots of Gnome Desktop programs installed, how do I remove them all with one swift command?
[02:22] <ModFather> holstein: yes they got same ip, sometime i ping with success but when i try same ping same ip i got fail
[02:22] <holstein> jmoreira81: pretty sure thats what most helpful folk here would suggest
[02:22] <holstein> ModFather: they need to have unique IP's
[02:22] <ModFather> switchtech: yes seems to be gateway issues, sometimes i can ping sometimes not. how i can figure out ?
[02:22] <ActionParsnip> jmoreira81: you can VNC over SSH  for a secure connection
[02:22] <_Marcus> "gnome" isn't installed
[02:22] <ModFather> holstein: they have
[02:23] <jmoreira81> holstein: you're not understudying what i need it a VPN for...
[02:23] <jmoreira81> ActionParsnip: how would i access mysql over vnc?
[02:23] <holstein> ModFather: just working through the obvious... how about boxes that are using DHCP?
[02:23] <switchtech> ModFather: is it on the same piece of network gear? (one switch / router)?
[02:23] <Zilly> what should I install to get "user accounts"?
[02:23] <holstein> jmoreira81: you are corret
[02:23] <holstein> correct*
[02:23] <urlin2u> _Marcus, so what do you have, and how did you get there and what have you removed so far?
[02:23] <ActionParsnip> _Marcus: remove libgnome-desktop-3-2 and it should make the rest fail deps and be marked for removal
[02:23] <holstein> !detail | jmoreira81
[02:23] <damo22> jmoreira81: you can forward the mysql port over ssh
[02:23] <loculinux> list
[02:23] <ModFather> holstein its cloud servers from RackSpace Cloud Services
[02:23] <holstein> !details | jmoreira81
[02:24] <ActionParsnip> jmoreira81: however you do it on your desktop now...
[02:24] <ActionParsnip> !vnc | jmoreira81
[02:24] <damo22> jmoreira81: then connect to it like it was on your own machine
[02:24] <_Marcus> urlin2u: I am in CLI, I added the "text" parameter to Grub
[02:24] <dRounse> holstein: well both are pretty quiet and the server will be in a closet type room, its hard to explain but i wont hear it, but is celeron d ok for streaming movies and stuff or will it work too hard? the server chassis has four fans so heat wont be a problem
[02:24] <ModFather> switchtech: yes it is on the same network, same Datacenter, hosted on the same account at cloud servers RackSpaceCloud
[02:24] <jmoreira81> ActionParsnip: gotcha..
[02:24] <jmoreira81> ActionParsnip: let me read that...
[02:25] <ActionParsnip> jmoreira81: if you can find out the command you run to get the app, you can just run the app via terminal and use x forwardig
[02:25] <damo22> jmoreira81: you might not need vnc, if you just need to talk to mysql database from over the internet
[02:25] <jmoreira81> ActionParsnip: thanks for you help… I have to log off; i'm at a starbucks and they're closing.. be back shortly
[02:25] <holstein> jmoreira81: http://blog.bodhizazen.net/linux/how-to-vpn-using-ssh/ https://wiki.ubuntu.com/VPN maybe
[02:25] <ActionParsnip> jmoreira81: the app will run on the server side, but be displayed on your client
[02:25] <switchtech> ModFather: you hope so anyway... it may be their LAN/WAN setup screwing with you. May want to hit rackspace and query for "cluster" support...
[02:25] <_Marcus> ActionParsnip: How do I remove all the extra Gnome applications?
[02:25] <_Marcus> ActionParsnip: Without going through each one
[02:26] <jmoreira81> ActionParsnip: I run all my databases from my ubuntu machine
[02:26] <singkong> i have install plexydesk and then what next to use ?
[02:26] <ModFather> switchtech : they will say again that will be problem from my side, how i can check if their LAN/WAN setup screwing with mine boxes? is any way to figure it out?
[02:26] <ActionParsnip> _Marcus: yes as it will make the others fail deps
[02:26] <escott> _Marcus, you could just remove the xserver and everything that depends on it should go away
[02:26] <_Marcus> ActionParsnip: So what do I do to just remove them?
[02:26] <dRounse> _Marcus: thats hard because some of them have dependencies that might mess with your OS
[02:27] <ActionParsnip> _Marcus: sudo apt-get --purge autoremove
[02:27] <_Marcus> dRounse: Oh well
[02:28] <_Marcus> ActionParsnip: It said it didn't remove anything
[02:29] <ActionParsnip> _Marcus: then remove more gnome stuffs. If you run:  dpkg -l | grep gnome     you can remove stuff
[02:30] <_Marcus> ActionParsnip: Can I do something like "sudo apt-get remove | dpkg -l | grep gnome"?
[02:31] <ActionParsnip> _Marcus: could try:    sudo apt-get --purge remove `dpkg -l | grep gnome`
[02:31] <Simon1245> Hey guys, how can I change like shortcut keys, for example ctrl + C = Copy, is there any way to change it?
[02:31] <_Marcus> ActionParsnip: It tried to remove a bunch of things that were non-existant
[02:31] <Simon1245> I'm used to Windows and on Windows windows key + D = Desktop, is there any way to change it so it's the same on Ubuntu?
[02:32] <iceocean> hello, I have a file which is 60mb, I want to chop it off so that it is only 50mb (discarding the tail end of the file), is there an easy way to do this?
[02:32] <krispaul> Hello
[02:32] <krispaul> Wondering was the metapackage for the ubuntu desktop?
[02:32] <ActionParsnip> Simon1245: default is CTRL+ALT+D
[02:33] <jrib> iceocean: probably dd, cut, or split
[02:34] <jrib> iceocean: oh, check out "truncate" as well
[02:34] <iceocean> jrib, split should work well i think. thanks
[02:34] <iceocean> is split binary safe?
[02:34] <akSeya> guys, when configuring kernel, what could prevent "Flat Memory" to be shown on menuconfig > Kernel Features > Memory model ?
[02:35] <Simon1245> ActionParsnip, thanks, is there any way to change it?
[02:36] <Simon1245> ActionParsnip, Also is there any list where I can find all the shortcuts?
[02:36] <_Marcus> Simon1245: I'm sure ubottu has it but, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/KeyboardShortcuts
[02:36] <ActionParsnip> Simon1245: in ccsm I believe its all there, in 12.04 if you hold SuperL down a while, you get the shortcuts displayed
[02:37] <ActionParsnip> Simon1245: http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2012/02/unity-5-2-lands-in-precise-brings-numerous-changes/
[02:37] <ActionParsnip> Simon1245: may help you too
[02:37] <Simon1245> ActionParsnip, _Marcus, Thanks for the links
[02:38] <Simon1245> ActionParsnip, by the way this 12.04 is released already or about to come?
[02:38] <_Marcus> !shortcuts | Simon1245
[02:39] <ActionParsnip> Simon1245: look at the version number, then think about the year ;)
[02:39] <ActionParsnip> Simon1245: its in Alpha2 now
[02:39] <Simon1245> 11.10 = 2011 - august?
[02:39] <_Marcus> Yeah
[02:39] <Simon1245> So 12.04 = April - 2012?
[02:40] <_Marcus> Yup
[02:40] <Simon1245> Ah, I see :D Smart way of making it :D
[02:40] <ActionParsnip> Simon1245: 11.10 = 20(11) october (10)th month
[02:40] <ActionParsnip> Simon1245: makes sense, also easier to know when releases are EOL too
[02:40] <Simon1245> opps my bad I said august lol :D
[02:40] <Simon1245> Oh and they release a new release every 6th month?
[02:41] <Simon1245> I used to use linux for like 2-3 years ago for testing and at that time I heard about it
[02:42] <skilz> I have a VERY VERY VERY ANNOYING problem with alsamixer, when I play a different song the volume raises to 100% each time and blasts my ears with headphones
[02:43] <Simon1245> By the way what button is "Super" key?
[02:43] <ActionParsnip> Simon1245: windows key to you
[02:43] <mkultra_> skilz, you need to set your default alsa mixing volume
[02:43] <Simon1245> Oh
[02:43] <mkultra_> mac key / windows key = "super key"
[02:44] <Simon1245> By the way would it be possible to play Windows game on Linux?
[02:44] <mkultra_> sometimes yes
[02:44] <mkultra_> wine
[02:44] <Simon1245> Is Wine easy to use?
[02:44] <mkultra_> wine tricks installs steam for windows really good on linux, its a little slow for portal though
[02:44] <mkultra_> depends upon what you would define as easy
[02:45] <mkultra_> alt + f2 gnome-terminal
[02:45] <mkultra_> wine dozesux.exe
[02:45] <mkultra_> for your exe files
[02:45] <_Marcus> I don't really see why you would move over from Windows to Ubuntu for gaming purposes.
[02:45] <_Marcus> Wine is good, but it's not great
[02:45] <ActionParsnip> mkultra_: or press CTRL+ALT+T  for easier terminal access
[02:45] <mkultra_> then everythings in $HOME/.wine/drive_c
[02:46] <mkultra_> ctrl alt t doesnt work for me
[02:46] <mkultra_> im in xfce
[02:46] <Simon1245> _Marcus, basically it fucked up today badly had virus and shit I removed it or something and the whole computer sort of shut down
[02:46] <ActionParsnip> mkultra_: yeah it works there too..
[02:46] <gogeta> mkultra_: what you trying to get to
[02:46] <mkultra_> alt + f2 is distro agnostic
[02:46] <_Marcus> Simon1245: When there's a problem like that, install it again :D
[02:46] <mkultra_> im explaining wine to people asking if its easy
[02:46] <Simon1245> Now too lazy to reinstall Windows again so I was hopin gthat it would work to use every Windows thing on here
[02:46] <urlin2u> mkultra_, works in xfce for me.
[02:47] <ActionParsnip> mkultra_: or install guake and use a shortcut button, like the console in Quake / HalfLife etc
[02:47] <mkultra_> might be my keyboard
[02:47] <ActionParsnip> Simon1245: I'd look for open equivs
[02:47] <mkultra_> yeah i have that bound to f12
[02:47] <gogeta> Simon1245: you can try one lof those live cds with a vires scanner and try to clean it out but with todays nasty stuff you probly need to reformat the box
[02:47] <wessel> how should I execute this command? dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/xxx bs=446 count=1
[02:47] <mkultra_> generic ubuntu NOOBS dont have all that
[02:47] <mkultra_> they have alt + f2 gnome-terminal.....
[02:48] <wessel> I want the command to operate on my usb stick
[02:48] <mkultra_> nautilus should do it
[02:48] <Simon1245> gogeta, it's a laptop well, too lazy to do that and I don't even have the real recovery disk so I'm gonna lose all the vaio stuff and shit
[02:48] <mkultra_> alt + f2 nautilus
[02:48] <Simon1245> ActionParsnip, What's equivs?
[02:48] <crazydiamond> wessel: what do you want to do?
[02:48] <mkultra_> should be able to dig through its settings to get the drive to show up
[02:48] <ActionParsnip> Simon1245: equivelants
[02:48] <wessel> crazydiamond, remove grub
[02:48] <urlin2u> Simon1245, no recovery partition?
[02:48] <_Marcus> Simon1245: What brand of laptop?
[02:48] <crazydiamond> wessel: full format?
[02:49] <gogeta> Simon1245: go to the vio site after reformat dl all the drivers and stuff some even include  the softwhere lost
[02:49] <wessel> Yes, that is possible
[02:49] <Simon1245> _Marcus, Sony Vaio VPCEE41FX,
[02:49] <wessel> There are no important files on my USB stick
[02:49] <Kcharle> can anyone tell me why i dont have permissions to images my www folder when i go to it in the browser?
[02:49] <_Marcus> Simon1245: Ah. Most HP laptops(even desktops) come with backup hard drives
[02:49] <Simon1245> urlin2u, Not sure honestly, it was on the computer that I could create a recovery disk but I didn't find it until it was like 1 hour left till I broke it.. I mean before breaking it
[02:49] <crazydiamond> use gparted or palimpsest
[02:50] <crazydiamond> wessel: use gparted or palimpsest
[02:50] <gogeta> Simon1245: yea if you have a backup partation many new machines do un less you removed it you can restore from there
[02:50] <urlin2u> Simon1245, if you bought it new and got no dvd for reinstall you have a recovery partition.
[02:50] <Simon1245> _Marcus, Ah this one had installed you think it's accessable while restarting it?
[02:50] <Simon1245> gogeta, How?
[02:50] <wessel> Will that remove grub?
[02:51] <gogeta> Simon1245: it should be a hotkey at boot it verys on the pc
[02:51] <Simon1245> urlin2u, Ah, that's right I didn't get a dvd with it
[02:51] <Simon1245> oh
[02:51] <_schism_> question gentlemen and ladies.  I was goofing around in 10.04 and installed wicd and of course the normal network thing went bye bye.  if I uninstall wicd will the normal thing come back?
[02:51] <crazydiamond> wessel: full format will. you can delete all partitions. but notice that if you want to keep data you will need to copy it somewhere (all data will be deleted)
[02:52] <hiexpo> how can i detect what wireless driver i am currently using
[02:52] <urlin2u> Simon1245, you can probably recover it from a f8 prompt, but it will overwrite the main partition.
[02:52] <Simon1245> Uhm let me come on my other laptop while I restart this one, see you soon
[02:52] <_Marcus> Simon1245: What?
[02:52] <Kcharle> can anyone tell me why i dont have permissions to images my www folder when i go to it in the browser?
[02:52] <skilz> mkultra_, How?
[02:52] <mkultra_> what how
[02:52] <gogeta> Simon1245: normaly it will say witch key to hit for recovery mode
[02:52] <wessel> crazydiamond, there is no important data on my USB stick, I will attempt to use gparted to do a full format on my usb stick
[02:52] <ActionParsnip> _schism_: install network manager then remove wicd
[02:52] <jrib> Kcharle: well, what *are* the permissions
[02:52] <Kcharle> not sure kinda new to linux
[02:52] <skilz> mkultra_, How do I set a default alsamixer volume?
[02:52] <_schism_> ActionParsnip, is it network-manager-gnome ?
[02:53] <Simon1245> urlin2u, I was checking at F8 tried to enter the safemode thing didn't work
[02:53] <ActionParsnip> _schism_: sounds good to me :)
[02:53] <Simon1245> gogeta, I'll look for it and hopefully find it :)
[02:53] <_schism_> ActionParsnip, thank you sir
[02:53] <Kcharle> jrib: not sure kinda new to linux
[02:53] <_schism_> ActionParsnip, installed wicd while trying some other desktops but its more hassel than its worth
[02:53] <urlin2u> Simon1245, not sure with this model safemode is not recovery though call the manufacturer if you want to do it is what I would do.
[02:54] <_schism_> here goes
[02:54] <gogeta> Simon1245: the hotkey is normaly at the bios screen
[02:54] <Simon1245> urlin2u, I would've done it the problem is that I bought this laptop in USA
[02:54] <gogeta> Simon1245: normaly f10 on vio
[02:54] <Simon1245> I'm living in Sweden so that's a big problme
[02:55] <Simon1245> Alright, restarting this computer, I'm on as Simon12455 on the other one
[02:55] <urlin2u> Simon1245, not sure what that means but okay.
[02:55] <gogeta> Simon1245: so turn on vio tap f10 it should go into recovery
[02:55] <_Marcus> urlin2u: He is restarting his computer, he wants you to refer to him as "Simon12455"
[02:56]  * kalimojo hi
[02:56]  * _Marcus hi kalimojo
[02:56] <Simon12455> on it now :)
[02:56] <tfitts> does anyone here know bind and can help me figure out why reverse DNS lookups won't work for me?  I've got normal dns lookups working fine.
[02:56] <Xourii> Hello
[02:56] <wessel> crazydiamond, can I conclude from this screenshot that there was no grub located on my USB stick? http://s15.postimage.org/kzgkb6g95/image.png
[02:57] <wessel> or you can't see "boot records" or whatever the thing that grub lives in is called
[02:57] <urlin2u> wessel, mbr
[02:57] <mkultra_> wessel, says 3 gigs used
[02:57] <Simon12455> gogeta, F10 isn't the right key :(
[02:58] <mkultra_> f1?
[02:58] <mkultra_> f12 4 me
[02:58] <urlin2u> wessel, you trying top boot a W7 install?
[02:58] <urlin2u> to
[02:58] <gogeta> Simon12455: yea it might be diffrent and it should say what one
[02:58] <crazydiamond> wessel: is your USB 8Gb big?
[02:58] <wessel> yes
[02:59] <mkultra_> nice
[02:59] <crazydiamond> wessel: so it's it
[02:59] <kalimojo> n app that will play iso files ?
[02:59] <wessel> urlin2u, I'm trying to completely clean a USB stick to get rid of grub
[02:59] <urlin2u> wessel, put a bootflag on the partition.
[02:59] <wessel> later I will attempt to put a windows installer on it yes
[02:59] <kalimojo> iks there an app that will play iso files ?
[02:59] <crazydiamond> wessel: it's a way also
[02:59] <urlin2u> wessel, how did you load the windows on the usb?
[02:59] <Simon12455> mkultra_, not 412 either :(, gogeta doesn't say something
[02:59] <mkultra_> alt + f2 gnome-terminal
[03:00] <Simon12455> I've tried pressing every button :(
[03:00] <wessel> using some Microsoft program and a MSDN iso
[03:00] <mkultra_> mount /dev/sdc1 /mnt/cd
[03:00] <gogeta> Simon12455: i think for a vio you need to just keep hitting f10
[03:00] <mkultra_> need to make the dir cd first
[03:00] <mkultra_> sudo mkdir /mnt/grbg
[03:00] <Simon12455> gogeta, let me try
[03:00] <mkultra_> sudo mount /dev/sdc1 /mnt/grbg
[03:00] <gogeta> Simon12455: just keep pecking it still it past the spalsh screen
[03:00] <mkultra_> ls /mnt/grbg
[03:01] <urlin2u> wessel, is it W7 you want to load to the usb for a install?
[03:01] <Simon12455> gogeta, still nothing
[03:01] <wessel> Yes
[03:01] <mkultra_> then proceed to removing grub from the mounted flash drive
[03:01] <urlin2u> wessel, you don't have to remove grub
[03:01] <janderson91z> could someone help me with an issue? please
[03:01] <gogeta> Simon12455: try it with f11 and f12 then one of them is bound to be right
[03:01] <mkultra_> say ur issue
[03:01] <urlin2u> mkultra_, ^^^
[03:02] <wessel> urlin2u, if I don't grub will always load, and I don't have a clue how to launch the installer from within a grub console
[03:02] <Rurd2di> wats issue janderson91z?
[03:02] <gogeta> Simon12455: if you deleted the patation however this will not work
[03:02] <mkultra_> wessel, your past boot time at that point
[03:02] <Simon12455> gogeta, still nothing
[03:02] <urlin2u> wessel, not true but if you don't believe that is your perogative.
[03:02] <mkultra_> you need to set it in your bios
[03:03] <janderson91z> i'm running ubuntu 11.10. i have two displays. i've installed the amd proprietary driver for my card. i've tried to set the second monitor to extend but when i do so the amd control center just closes out
[03:03] <Simon12455> I doubt I've done that
[03:03] <mkultra_> you need to set your boot order in bios wessel
[03:03] <janderson91z> i hit apply and the settings don't change, the program just closes
[03:03] <scanuks> can anyone suggest me a light linux netbook edition
[03:03] <gogeta> Simon12455: try it with f8 then
[03:03] <janderson91z> right now it's just mirroring on to the second display
[03:03] <wessel> mkultra_, I have set boot order to USB-ZIP, USB-HDD, USB-something else
[03:03] <wessel> I removed HDD from the boot order
[03:03] <gogeta> Simon12455: at vio splash screen
[03:03] <damo22> wessel is it booting grub from the usb?
[03:03] <bazhang> scanuks, lubuntu
[03:03] <mkultra_> run your program in a terminal to get debug messages
[03:04] <bazhang> !lubuntu > scanuks
[03:04] <wessel> yes it is booting the grub from the USB
[03:04] <wessel> At least that is what I think it is doing
[03:04] <urlin2u> wessel, I have done this many times if you want the correct info.
[03:04] <mkultra_> ok so you got grub booting from your usb media then you gotta mount your drive and delete it
[03:04] <Simon12455> gogeta, nothing :(
[03:04] <Simon12455> gogeta, safemode and all that shit onyl :(
[03:04] <damo22> wessel: you can boot straight into the windows installer from the grub on the usb
[03:04] <gogeta> Simon12455: then you must have removed it
[03:05] <bazhang> Simon12455, no cursing here please
[03:05] <scanuks> bazhang: i know but lubuntu is not good for my netbook screen
[03:05] <wessel> urlin2u, you have done what many times, run an installer from within grub console?
[03:05] <gogeta> Simon12455: your going to need to use a cd
[03:05] <urlin2u> wessel, no a w7 usb
[03:05] <Simon12455> bazhang, sorry.
[03:05] <damo22> wessel do you have this on another pc so we can boot into grub and still chat?
[03:05] <wessel> I have a w7 usb, but for some reason there is still grub on the w7 usb xD
[03:05] <scanuks> bazhang: any other suggestions ?
[03:06] <wessel> damo22, no
[03:06] <gogeta> Simon12455: your hitting these keys sevrel times correct i dont tink its a single press for a vio
[03:06] <janderson91z> anyone know what's going on? i posted my issue
[03:06] <urlin2u> wessel, it is really easy, so not sure what else to say.
[03:06] <bazhang> scanuks, you wanted light, how light did you mean? how much ram what cpu etc
[03:06] <Simon12455> gogeta, Yeah pressed it a lot of times
[03:07] <Simon12455> let me come back on ubuntu onto the IRC
[03:07] <scanuks> bazhang: ram 500 and cpu 1 core 1ghz
[03:07] <damo22> wessel: one way is to zero the whole usb stick then partition it and reformat it, install the w7 installer on it
[03:07] <Simon1245> gogeta, back
[03:07] <wessel> damo22, that was my plan, but I'm fine with typing some command in a grub console
[03:08] <bazhang> scanuks, you could try xubuntu, but with that minimal amount of ram it would not be snappy, thus my suggestion of lubuntu
[03:08] <urlin2u> damo22, you don't have to zero the drive
[03:08] <gogeta> Simon1245: you should have made cds before messing with your partations
[03:08] <damo22> wessel: the commands you need depend on the layout of grubs drives
[03:08] <scanuks> bazhang: yes but i already said my screen doesnt match lubuntu :(
[03:08] <gogeta> Simon1245: any pcs with recovery partations has that option
[03:08] <dalek_> how do I change the default action when an audio CD is inserted? How do I make ubuntu ask me what to do when I insert an audio CD?
[03:08] <mr_crunchy> hey guys
[03:09] <crazydiamond> if I got "Error loading new keyboard description" how can I figure the reason out?
[03:09] <Simon1245> gogeta, yeah, I know I didn't find it earlier but later on I found it but until then it was too late
[03:09] <wessel> damo22, something like this? http://pastebin.com/5t4bzxkR
[03:09] <mr_crunchy> I've just installed ubunto and I got to say I never saw something so quick to be installed
[03:09] <janderson91z> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=11681835#post11681835
[03:09] <damo22> wessel: yes, but root (hd?, 1)
[03:09] <damo22> where ? refers to the usb
[03:10] <wessel> It is probably 2, I have 0 SSD with ubuntu, 1 SSD with corrupt windows, and 2 probably is USB then
[03:10] <epiccyndaquil> how do I remove empathy, banshee, etc from the Unity menu at the top?
[03:10] <damo22> wessel type root (hd then hit tab
[03:10] <scanuks> bazhang: can i install LXDE on UNR ?
[03:10] <damo22> wessel: it will autocomplete
[03:11] <limescout> hey, does anyone here use zim?  I can't find any information on how to use the gnuplot plugin
[03:11] <gogeta> Simon1245: well you should be able to use a normal windows cd and get most of the vio softwhere from there site mius the crapware :)
[03:11] <bazhang> !une | scanuks
[03:11] <ActionParsnip> epiccyndaquil: right click it and click 'remove from launcher' or uncheck 'keep in launcher'
[03:12] <Simon1245> gogeta, yeah probably I'll look for it, actually downloading it on my other laptop already :)
[03:12] <wessel> damo22, okay so most likely I will have to type these commands: http://pastebin.com/wz5NZVEj
[03:12] <Simon1245> But I sort of like ubuntu :D It's really cool with all the desktop shit :D Looks really nice :D
[03:12] <gogeta> Simon1245: hey if your keys printed on the laptop its not even stealing heh
[03:12] <epiccyndaquil> ActionParsnip: I mean the "notification area" portion, if that's what it's called.
[03:12] <bazhang> Simon1245, again stop cursing please
[03:12] <scanuks> bazhang: thats sux ... looking for linux for eee pc
[03:12] <_Marcus> eee pc?
[03:12] <ActionParsnip> epiccyndaquil: in the top bar?
[03:12] <gogeta> Simon1245: you can use that key and it will come back perfectly legit
[03:12] <epiccyndaquil> correct, ActionParsnip
[03:13] <damo22> wessel: but if you use root (hd<TAB><TAB> it will print a list of possible hds
[03:13] <ActionParsnip> epiccyndaquil: so when the apps run you DON'T want them to appear there?
[03:13] <urlin2u> ActionParsnip, you have that link for W7 loads to a thumb?
[03:13] <bazhang> scanuks, lubuntu and other variants adjust to the eeepc screen automatically quite well
[03:13] <damo22> wessel, then you can insert the correct number, and follow with a comma, then tab again to get partitions
[03:13] <_Marcus> scanuks: What processor do Eee PCs use
[03:14] <epiccyndaquil> ActionParsnip: no, I don't use Banshee, so I don't want it to appear when I adjust the volume. I don't use thunderbird, so I don't want it to appear there. Same for Empathy.
[03:14] <gogeta> scanuks: btrfs is very broken atm use ext2 otherwise lubuntu works awsome
[03:14] <t4nkd> is there an ubuntu ec2 channel still?
[03:14] <Simon1245> gogeta, true, I got it written underneath the computer :D bazhang, really sorry, used to say that word lol
[03:14] <ActionParsnip> urlin2u: http://www.webupd8.org/2010/10/create-bootable-windows-7-usb-drive.html
[03:14] <ActionParsnip> epiccyndaquil: if you don't use it, uninstall it
[03:14] <wessel> I also need to use the --force? in chainloader --force +1?
[03:14] <Rurd2di> ActionParsnip: dont post windows bs in here!
[03:14] <scanuks> _Marcus: intel
[03:15] <ActionParsnip> Rurd2di: it was requested.Calm down
[03:15] <gogeta> marcos: they use atom
[03:15] <urlin2u> wessel, not sure why you guys are doing this in a hard way but look here. http://www.webupd8.org/2010/10/create-bootable-windows-7-usb-drive.html
[03:15] <epiccyndaquil> ActionParsnip: I have, but it still appears in that area
[03:15] <urlin2u> ActionParsnip, thanks;)
[03:15] <Bsims> lol answered my own question
[03:15] <_Marcus> scanuks: Exactly? I mean what is it. Like ix86.
[03:16] <scanuks> _Marcus: x86
[03:16] <gogeta> marcos: depends n270 was 32 bit but the dual cores are 64bit
[03:16] <_Marcus> scanuks: I believe Ubuntu should run on it
[03:16] <wessel> well thanks, I will try that when it does not work, will be the first time I actually do something useful in a grub console, I kind of like that :P
[03:17] <scanuks> _Marcus:  already tried the UNR thingy but it was too slow
[03:17] <gogeta> scanuks: use lubuntu it runs fine on my n270 eeepc
[03:17] <ActionParsnip> lubuntu rox
[03:17] <Bsims> why can't I zap empathy's settings entirely
[03:17] <scanuks> gogeta: yes it doesnt match my screen
[03:18] <gogeta> scanuks: umm it does mine and there all pretty mutch the same
[03:18] <epiccyndaquil> Bsims: I have the exact same question as you, this is my problem ActionParsnip
[03:18] <Bsims> I did a rm -r on everything locate empathy|grep $HOME and it still has my account settings
[03:18] <scanuks> gogeta: only UNR worked fine but it slow
[03:18] <gogeta> scanuks: is it going into the overscan moide?
[03:18] <Bsims> epiccyndaquil: whats the question
[03:18] <epiccyndaquil> actually, it seems a restart worked after uninstalling
[03:19] <scanuks> gogeta: can u try simple english XD my english is poor
[03:19] <gogeta> scanuks: ull unr has been gone for almost 2 years try the new versions
[03:19] <epiccyndaquil> Bsims: to remove empathy, uninstall it from the software center, then reboot
[03:19] <scanuks> gogeta: which is ?
[03:19] <Bsims> epiccyndaquil: Ah Ok
[03:19] <gogeta> scanuks: lubuntu runs perfect on my eeepc 900a
[03:19] <Bsims> I got a movie, its not showing up when I put it in my dvd drive but another one does any ideas
[03:20] <scanuks> gogeta: u said n270
[03:20] <gogeta> scanuks: 900a has a n270 atom prosser
[03:20] <scanuks> gogeta: is it 10" ?
[03:20] <gogeta> scanuks: its the 7 inch
[03:21] <scanuks> gogeta: what resolution do u use on it ?
[03:22] <gogeta> scanuks:1024 x 600
[03:22] <gogeta> scanuks: the max for that screen
[03:22] <scanuks> hm
[03:22] <chromati`> I have a BCM43227 wireless card I'm trying to get working.
[03:23] <scanuks> gogeta: when i open OpenBox Connfiguration GUI i cant see the whole window of it
[03:23] <mkultra_> u zombies wanna see my archive of scrips?
[03:23] <gogeta> scanuks: it can do 1024*768 but thats overscan mode where you have to mouse down and up to see the screen
[03:23] <ActionParsnip> !broadcom | chromati`
[03:23] <scanuks> gogeta: when i open OpenBox Connfiguration GUI i cant see the whole window of it
[03:23] <chromati`> thanx :)
[03:23] <mkultra_> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1836890
[03:23] <gogeta> scanuks: that sounds like a openbox problem
[03:23] <scanuks> gogeta: preferenced > openbox conf..
[03:23] <gogeta> scanuks: lubuntu uses lxde
[03:24] <Simon1245> Hey could someone help me, how can I increase the space of Linux partion? Not sure if I spelled it wrong but I guess you understand
[03:24] <scanuks> gogeta: no i can see the half of "close" and "about" buttons
[03:24] <scanuks> gogeta: it comes by defualt
[03:24] <ActionParsnip> Simon1245: you can resize partitions in LiveCD
[03:24] <gogeta> scanuks: no ubuntu comes with openbox by defult
[03:25] <Canadian1296> About to start building LFS on Ubuntu :) Hope this goes well.
[03:25] <scanuks> gogeta: u must be wrong , i installed fresh lubuntu today and it was there
[03:25] <scanuks> gogeta: 11.10
[03:25] <gogeta> scanuks: lubuntu uses lxde
[03:25] <Simon1245> ActionParsnip, does it save?
[03:25] <scanuks> gogeta: so somthing fked up with my lubuntu
[03:25] <ActionParsnip> Simon1245: save what?
[03:26] <mkultra_> yeah i bet lubuntu is gonna be the hot ticket upon update
[03:26] <ActionParsnip> mkultra_: shame its not LTS in Precise...
[03:26] <bazhang> scanuks, no cursing here
[03:26] <gogeta> scanuks: dunno but it should be lxde not openbox
[03:27] <scanuks> bazhang: srry
[03:27] <scanuks> gogeta: but it was fresh install
[03:27] <chromati`> how do I enable restricted drivers in ubuntu 11.10?
[03:27] <Bsims> scanuks: its entirely possible something else drew in openbox
[03:27] <Bsims> I've seen wierder
[03:27] <gogeta> scanuks: i hear lots of errors in  my day but not a iso having the wrong wm
[03:27] <chromati`> wait I found it.
[03:27] <Simon1245> ActionParsnip, I mean if I use the liveCD to increase the partion size, would it save like that or would it change back later on or something?
[03:28] <chromati`> additional drivers under settings
[03:28] <Simon1245> Oh and I just found the recovery partion, it's not deleted, gogeta
[03:28] <log> chromati`: I liked "Restricted Drivers" better than "Additional Drivers."
[03:28] <gogeta> Simon1245: nice you can restore it then
[03:28] <ActionParsnip> Simon1245: you are editting the actual drive, so the setting will stick. I suggest you run full backup in case of catastrophe
[03:29] <cha0sbg> yo guys, anyone have messed with Optimus technology in ubuntu ?
[03:29] <gogeta> Simon1245: defently make some restore disk after
[03:29] <log> !anyone | cha0sbg
[03:29] <Bsims> Simon1245: I recommend rsync for your backup
[03:29] <ActionParsnip> cha0sbg: nvidia refuse to support Linux in optimus
[03:29] <Simon1245> Bsims, I don't relaly have a external hardrive or something
[03:29] <ActionParsnip> cha0sbg: there is bumblebee to try and support it.I think you will be disappointed though
[03:29] <Bsims> Simon1245: Ok, make it a priority
[03:30] <scanuks> gogeta: anyways i thing i kinda ruined my lubuntu because i installed "grandr" and i pressed "screen off" by mistake and now it show me blank screen
[03:30] <cha0sbg> why's that ActionParsnip
[03:30] <scanuks> gogeta: theres any chance to fix it ?
[03:30]  * Bsims smiles its money well spent
[03:30] <gogeta> scanuks: press screen on
[03:30] <Simon1245> ActionParsnip, I can just reinstall it all again and add some extra space into it, right?
[03:30] <scanuks> gogeta: i cant
[03:30] <ActionParsnip> Simon1245: I guess
[03:30] <scanuks> gogeta: it shows me blank screen
[03:30] <Simon1245> ActionParsnip, Safer way, I'll go for that way :)
[03:31] <Simon1245> gogeta, one problem, how do I access it? The recovery partion?
[03:31] <mkultra_> yeah i think gnome 3 will be running better by the time i go that route
[03:31] <Bsims> Simon1245: surely its easier to run the live cd and run gparted
[03:31] <gogeta> Simon1245: so you didnt find it
[03:31] <Simon1245> gogeta, I did, in the disk ultilty thing
[03:31] <scanuks> gogeta: well ?
[03:32] <gogeta> Simon1245: i dunno esc maybe its defently a hotkey
[03:32] <Simon1245> Let me check, hopefully it is.
[03:32] <Simon1245> I'll come back if it isn't if it is, I'm not coming back, shutted down the other laptop lol
[03:33] <Simon1245> brb checking and thanks for all help if I don't return :)
[03:33] <Froward> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HowToAddaLauncher
[03:33] <Froward> When I right click the launcher, there is no menu.
[03:33] <gogeta> scanuks: relly dont knoe it sounds like you are not even running lxde and you got other stuff installed
[03:34] <Bsims> got a minor beef, why are do most of the iconsets on kde-look look like sponsor stickers on a clown car?
[03:34] <scanuks> gogeta: lubuntu-11.10-desktop-i386.iso
[03:35] <gogeta> Bsims: lol you relise kde stands for
[03:35] <scanuks> Myrtti: u here ?
[03:35] <mkultra_> k desktop environment
[03:35] <gogeta> mkultra_: what does the k stand for
[03:35] <mkultra_> and almost everything starts with a K like Konqueror
[03:35] <mkultra_> 11
[03:36] <gogeta> mkultra_: kiddy
[03:36] <Bsims> gogeta: yup been running from 3.0 on
[03:36] <scanuks> can anyone help me ? i installed "GRANDR" its a GUI for xrandr and i press screen OFF by mistake and now i cant see the screen
[03:36] <Bsims> dunno why but even gnome2 gives me hives
[03:36] <mkultra_> lol 3 freaked me out at first
[03:36] <ActionParsnip> gogeta: The K was originally suggested to stand for "Kool", but it was quickly decided that the K should stand for nothing in particular. The KDE initialism is therefore expanded to "K Desktop Environment". http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/KDE
[03:36] <Bsims> I upgraded to Oneric, and my preferences in calibre is now grey and transparent, does calibre use gtk so I know where to go hunt down this bug and kill it
[03:36] <gogeta> Bsims: maybe its time you joind the xfce and lxde camp lol
[03:37] <Bsims> gogeta: nah love me my plasma too much
[03:37] <scanuks> can anyone help me ? i installed "GRANDR" its a GUI for xrandr and i press screen OFF by mistake and now i cant see the screen -LUBUNTU
[03:37] <mkultra_> i dont want to fix a bunch of bugs in ubuntu orneric =(
[03:37] <scanuks> should i re-install lubuntu ?
[03:37] <ActionParsnip> scanuks: where does grandr store it's config?
[03:37] <mkultra_> if its clean nothing installed why not
[03:38] <scanuks> ActionParsnip: no idea
[03:38] <ActionParsnip> scanuks: if you press CTRL+ALT+F1  do you get a command line system?
[03:38] <mkultra_> too bad u dont gots ssh
[03:38] <scanuks> ActionParsnip: nope
[03:38] <mkultra_> u could fix a problem like that with ssh
[03:38] <gogeta> ActionParsnip: his lubuntu has openbox lol i relly dont knoe what hes running
[03:38] <ActionParsnip> scanuks: I suggest you find out, then delete it (or rename it)
[03:38] <scanuks> ActionParsnip: the screen is disabled
[03:38] <Bsims> http://home.comcast.net/~bmsims1/Desktop-2012-02-01.jpg
[03:38] <lee_> jlljljl
[03:38] <scanuks> ActionParsnip: *cries*
[03:39] <Bsims> though with gnome iconset now, and for somereason pidgin no longer has a icon in the system tray
[03:39] <ActionParsnip> scanuks: the CTRL+ALT+F1 may work
[03:39] <bazhang> Bsims, dont paste that here
[03:39] <ActionParsnip> scanuks: if not then boot to root recovery mode
[03:39] <mkultra_> yeah K is looking pretty sweet these days
[03:39] <gogeta> mkultra_: yea but it still siffers from the same thing qt always has being slow as dirt
[03:40] <Bsims> bazhang: why not I installed ubuntu not kubuntu, I also have wmaker, lxde and xfce
[03:40] <bazhang> Bsims, what does it have to do with ubuntu support?
[03:41] <kanliot> i'm running precise and ejecting cd's isn't working.  they aren't unmounting when i press eject button.  should i report a bug? where
[03:41] <Simon1245> gogeta, didn't work :(
[03:41] <mkultra_> qt is pretty but yeah K the desktop is a turtle and resource hog
[03:41] <bazhang> kanliot, #ubuntu+1 for precise please
[03:41] <gogeta> kanliot: have you tryed sudo eject
[03:41] <scanuks> ActionParsnip: ok i booted from recovery mode now what
[03:41] <kanliot> ty
[03:41] <mkultra_> format
[03:41] <mkultra_> FORMAT!!!
[03:42] <Bsims> bazhang: I'd like to find out why there is no icon for pidgin when all I did was change iconsets, though i got an idea
[03:42] <bazhang> mkultra_, ?
[03:42] <mkultra_> lol, if theres nothing on the drive id format
[03:42] <mkultra_> quicker easier
[03:42] <scanuks> gogeta: which file xrandr stores it configuration in lubuntu ?
[03:43] <gogeta> scanuks: dunno your not even running lxde
[03:43] <ActionParsnip> scanuks: find where gxrandr holds its config
[03:43] <gogeta> scanuks: but it should be the same place
[03:43] <seyfarth> just uninstalled ecryptfs - can someone tell me what the default permissions for a user's home directory is so I can chmod my way back to normal?
[03:44] <seyfarth> *are
[03:44] <scanuks> ActionParsnip: no idea , really
[03:45] <ActionParsnip> scanuks: then use the web to find out, nobody is born knowing...
[03:47] <yosefu> hi, i'm trying to install gallium3d for an ati mobility radeon hd5470 but i'm finding no instructions for my case
[03:47] <yosefu> anybody has experience on the matter?
[03:49] <scanuks> ActionParsnip: i cant find it =\ :(
[03:50] <ActionParsnip> scanuks: try:  xrandr -s 0
[03:50] <holstein> scanuks: about the permissions? http://timwise.blogspot.com/2008/08/reseting-home-folder-permissions-in.html
[03:51] <scanuks> ActionParsnip: it says "can't open display" maybe because recovery mode
[03:52] <MaxHeadRoom> Hello, q about LTS, are there backports so you can install latest versions of non-core cross platform programs, like LibreOffice or Firefox recent versions?  I am looking to LTS for a more stable base, while hoping for some recent stuff also
[03:53] <ActionParsnip> scanuks: if you run:  su foo; file ~/.config/monitors.xml     is the file present (chage foo for your username)
[03:54] <Bsims> anyone know how I can get pidgin to show a icon in the system tray? it worked till I rebooted
[03:54] <twilightstar> anyone know how to turn crontab on
[03:54] <ActionParsnip> Bsims: in the config, you can set the show tray to Always
[03:54] <holstein> MaxHeadRoom: ppa's...
[03:54] <ActionParsnip> twilightstar: its on by default...
[03:54] <Froward> so how do I add a new launcher? https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HowToAddaLauncher does not work.
[03:54] <twilightstar> for some reason it doesn work
[03:55] <scanuks> ActionParsnip: no such a file or directory ... im so lost
[03:55] <twilightstar> I dropped a file in the cron.daily
[03:55] <twilightstar> didn't work
[03:55] <holstein> Bsims: try loggin out and back in... maybe the notification area didnt load,or crashed
[03:55] <ActionParsnip> scanuks: use the web to see where the settings are stored, that ALL I am doing....
[03:55] <fishead> some one can help me with install Mint 12? i have a problem when i use an usb sticky livecd to install it
[03:55] <scanuks> ActionParsnip: how can i reset the whole system ?
[03:56] <MaxHeadRoom> holstein: so no backport repos exist for LTS?  I have heard of ppa's and tried them, not the ideal solution... I am thinking of something like what Mepis does, having a stable base w/ backports repo
[03:56] <ActionParsnip> scanuks: you only need to set xrandr, the rest is fine...
[03:56] <holstein> fishead: i would try #mint on spotchat
[03:56] <scanuks> ActionParsnip: i cant find it on google =\
[03:56] <ActionParsnip> scanuks: do you have ~/.xprofile   ?
[03:56] <Bsims> holstein: I'll try that
[03:56] <scanuks> yes
[03:56] <ActionParsnip> scanuks: rename it
[03:56] <fishead> holstein: thank you
[03:57] <holstein> MaxHeadRoom: ppa's is the way i have added libreoffice and firefox stable to the LTS
[03:57] <scanuks> ActionParsnip: whats the command of rename
[03:57] <ActionParsnip> scanuks: then run:   sudo reboot     and you should be ok
[03:57] <Blue11> scanuks: mv
[03:57] <ActionParsnip> scanuks: mv ~/.xprofile ~/.xprofile_old
[03:58] <MaxHeadRoom> holstein: is there one ppa repo for this purpose, or do I need many for each category I want to add
[03:58] <ActionParsnip> scanuks: I strongly suggest you put some time into CLI and you won't be asking basic stuff like that
[03:58] <holstein> MaxHeadRoom: i have used different ones.. http://www.ubuntugeek.com/install-libreoffice-in-ubuntu-11-0410-1010-04-using-ppa.html for example
[03:58] <ActionParsnip> scanuks: http://www.ubuntugeek.com/how-to-adjust-screen-resolution-on-ubuntu.html   is where I found the file out.....
[03:59] <ActionParsnip> scanuks: fyi I DON'T use xrandr, nor have I ever had to, yet I found that..
[03:59] <Rurd2di> hmm
[04:00] <soulf_> Hi, in unity as well as gnome-shell the gtk theme and wallpaper don't load (instead there's a blue background and and ugly fallback theme), changing the settings in the gnome-tweak-tool or appearance menu changes nothing. The shell theme works so it's just the thing that unity and gnome-shell have in common (what do you call it, gnome3? gtk3?...) Does annybody have an idea?
[04:00] <scanuks> ActionParsnip: it says its read only file system
[04:01] <ActionParsnip> scanuks: sounds like an unhealthy file system, did you hard power off before going to root recovery mode?
[04:01] <scanuks> ActionParsnip: yes
[04:02] <ActionParsnip> scanuks: coincidence, I don't think so
[04:02] <scanuks> couldnt see the screen
[04:02] <ActionParsnip> scanuks: I suggest you boot to liveCD and fsck your partition there, You could have used Alt+K+Printscreen and got back to the login screen
[04:03] <chaos_zero> hi, i am having a proglem with setting up a second network bridge. I already have one bridge forwarding one ethernet to two others, and when i ttry to set up another bridge the same way eith some other ethernets, it will not work. Anything special i need for the second bridge?
[04:03] <jmoreira81> ActionParsnip i'm ack
[04:03] <scanuks> ActionParsnip: uhh ill do that another time im really tired its 6:00 am here
[04:03] <scanuks> ActionParsnip: thanks for help tho =]
[04:03] <ActionParsnip> jmoreira81: how do you mean
[04:03] <skilz> $ sudo /sbin/alsactl store
[04:03] <skilz> Home directory /home/skilz not ours.
[04:04] <jmoreira81> ActionParsnip: I'm back. I just set up hamachi successfully.
[04:04] <ActionParsnip> scanuks: np man, hard power off is bad for your hardware
[04:04] <ActionParsnip> jmoreira81: nice
[04:04] <jmoreira81> ActionParsnip: it works nicely.
[04:04] <baladeprata> hello
[04:04] <baladeprata> :>
[04:04] <scanuks> ActionParsnip: you mean for the harddrive ?
[04:04] <ActionParsnip> scanuks: and other parts
[04:04] <scanuks> ActionParsnip: =\ so whats the CLI command for shutdown ?
[04:04] <jmoreira81> ActionParsnip: Do you know of a good backup app for ubuntu?
[04:05] <ActionParsnip> scanuks: sudo shutdown -h now
[04:05] <ActionParsnip> !backup | jmoreira81
[04:05] <ActionParsnip> jmoreira81: I just use a cron'd cp job...
[04:06] <jmoreira81> ActionParsnip: gotcha i'm doing it manually but i'd like a more automated process...
[04:06] <soulf_> Hi, in unity as well as gnome-shell the gtk theme and wallpaper don't load (instead there's a blue background and and ugly fallback theme), changing the settings in the gnome-tweak-tool or appearance menu changes nothing. The shell theme works so it's just the thing that unity and gnome-shell have in common that bugs(what do you call it, gnome3? gtk3?...). Oh and the problem started after I installed KDE. Help? :)
[04:06] <baladeprata> does some1 uses a notebook dell inspiron n5110 here?
[04:06] <jmoreira81> ActionParsnip: I wish there was time machine for ubuntu
[04:07] <ActionParsnip> jmoreira81: you could make a disk image with clonezilla then restore the image when needed
[04:07] <jmoreira81> ActionParsnip: image of the entire OS?
[04:08] <ActionParsnip> jmoreira81: sure why not
[04:08] <Argus33> can anyone help me with Asus eee pc 1008p wifi issues
[04:08] <holstein> jmoreira81: how about back in time? http://backintime.le-web.org/download_page/
[04:09] <ActionParsnip> Argus33: what is the issue
[04:09] <Argus33> the wifi goes in and out intermitantly.
[04:09] <fellayaboy> is it jsut me or did some of the updates screw up openvpn????
[04:09] <ActionParsnip> Argus33: tried disabling ipv6?
[04:09] <jmoreira81> holstein: never heard of back in time. i'll check it out...
[04:09] <cJether> hello
[04:09] <holstein> Argus33: is it Atheros Communications Inc. AR9285 ?
[04:09] <Argus33> no not yet
[04:10] <Argus33> yes
[04:10] <ActionParsnip> Argus33: add the boot option:  ipv6.disable=1
[04:10] <Argus33> junk junk junk = atheros
[04:10] <fellayaboy> is anyone having a problem with openvpn after the updates
[04:10] <ActionParsnip> Argus33: my atheros pci wifi works fine
[04:10] <Argus33> could you please tell me the full comand. i am a bit of a newb
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[04:11] <ActionParsnip> Argus33: http://askubuntu.com/questions/68226/frequent-disconnects-using-wlan-ar9285
[04:11] <Argus33> thank you
[04:11] <skilz_>  $ sudo /sbin/alsactl store
[04:11] <ActionParsnip> Argus33: echo "options ath9k nohwcrypt=1" | sudo tee /etc/modprobe.d/ath9k.conf
[04:12] <Argus33> what does that mean
[04:12] <ActionParsnip> Argus33: adds the line to the file, seems it needs that option
[04:12] <ActionParsnip> Argus33: reboot to test
[04:12] <Argus33> do i need to put that in comandline
[04:12] <ActionParsnip> Argus33: use the ipv6.disable=1    option too
[04:12] <chaos_zero> hi, i am having a proglem with setting up a second network bridge. I already have one bridge forwarding one ethernet to two others, and when i ttry to set up another bridge the same way eith some other ethernets, it will not work. Anything special i need for the second bridge?
[04:12] <zir> Hello, can somebody tell me a good linux tool or something, for sending me a email everyday with full traffic statistics, evt some kind of pictures like this: http://t3.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcSL5IYvjNYeLfROA24PolyvrR995VML3IRLz-ffyOgNNVMPLyt9
[04:12] <ActionParsnip> Argus33: yes, its a terminal command
[04:13] <chaos_zero> (sorry it dropped me before)
[04:13] <Argus33> ok wait one
[04:13] <ActionParsnip> Argus33: have you not seen that page, it took me seconds to find
[04:16] <chaos_zero> anybody?
[04:18] <jmoreira81> holstein: do you know of a good app to restore deleted files from a hard drive on a different file system?
[04:18] <ActionParsnip> !info foremost
[04:18] <holstein> jmoreira81: i use photorec
[04:19] <Argus33> not that exact page
[04:19] <jmoreira81> holstein: is it just for images?
[04:20] <holstein> jmoreira81: its for hard drives and file systems.. are you wanting something that can sift through an image? you can try it
[04:21] <AllyUnion> Has anyone used a hardware RAID controller?
[04:21] <jmoreira81> holstein: nah… i formatted my ext hdd but i need some files back....
[04:21] <damo22> AllyUnion: yes
[04:22] <AllyUnion> damo22: I've never had to handle one in Linux, it shows up as one device?
[04:22] <holstein> jmoreira81: photorec has worked for that for me before... after formatting
[04:22] <jmoreira81> holstein: i'll try it
[04:22] <damo22> AllyUnion: i would be wary of those things, because let us suppose the computer dies, how do you get your data back without an identical raid controller
[04:22] <holstein> its part of testdisk jmoreira81 http://www.cgsecurity.org/wiki/TestDisk
[04:22] <AllyUnion> damo22: Is there any considerations to partitioning it?  (only use parted I assume?)
[04:23] <jmoreira81> holstein: Nice.
[04:24] <WHAT_UP> is it possible to have, say, Ctrl-Shift-F6 bring me to another x instance?
[04:25] <WHAT_UP> o.o
[04:25] <damo22> WHAT_UP: my friend is running 2 xservers in ubuntu
[04:25] <WHAT_UP> damo22: how do i go about doing that?
[04:25] <damo22> WHAT_UP: i dont know how
[04:26] <Guest39888> helloo
[04:27] <Guest39888> ???
[04:27] <log> !ask | Guest39888
[04:28] <holstein> Guest39888: just fire away... we are having some difficulty with the channels right now
[04:28] <Guest39888> nothing im just trying to set up
[04:28] <Guest39888> irc
[04:28] <Guest39888> dont know now though
[04:29] <holstein> Guest39888: to "setup" irc? you are on...
[04:29] <Guest39888> i know
[04:29] <Guest39888> but i mean
[04:29] <Guest39888> using pidgin
[04:29] <MK`> Is anyone here familiar with uget that can help me with some problems? Or is that an unofficial thing and has its own channel?
[04:30] <holstein> Guest39888: sure.. fire up pigin.. and ask what you need.. dont hit enter so much so as not to flood the channel
[04:30] <Guest39888> ok
[04:30] <YNH> Hello all!
[04:30] <Guest39888> let me see
[04:30] <aBound> MK`, Never heard of uget unless you're referring to wget.
[04:31] <MK`> No, it's a UI download manager.
[04:31] <Snowman_> How do you permanently turn off acpi in 11.10 grub?
[04:31] <aBound> If it's not part of the official repository I doubt anybody would give any help.
[04:32] <MK`> Alright, thanks
[04:32] <log> It looks like uget is in the repo.
[04:32] <log> "easy-to-use download manager written in GTK+2"
[04:33] <walden> Snowman_: why get rid of acpi
[04:33] <Guest39888> it keep saying
[04:33] <Guest39888> banned
[04:33] <log> walden: Some computers won't run Ubuntu without ACPI disabled.
[04:33] <Guest39888> or it wont just let me get connect
[04:33] <Snowman_> My computer will not boot unless I manually do this.
[04:33] <aBound> MK`, I can't say if anybody in #ubuntu-offtopic would help but you could try it.
[04:33] <holstein> Guest39888: you might be banned by IP
[04:34] <holstein> maybe not you personally, but your IP
[04:34] <pushpop> Anyone using gnome 3.2.1 with Ubuntu?
[04:34] <Guest39888> Disconnected.
[04:34] <Guest39888> ERROR :Closing Link: obelix.mdnx.net (*** Banned )
[04:34] <Guest39888> im on a vm
[04:34] <YNH> I'm having an issue with gdm, I've changed the automatic login setting in the Login setting, and also edited the /etc/gdm/custom.conf but I reboot or halt and start back up again and it still prompts me to log in
[04:34] <FloodBot1> !netsplit
[04:34] <log> !anyone | pushpop
[04:35] <Guest39888> but my fox is running on tor
[04:35] <Guest39888> is that a problem?
[04:35] <Snowman_> What file do I edit and where to turn acpi off?
[04:35] <skilz> Snowman_, man acpi
[04:36] <Guest39888> can help me????
[04:36] <YNH> really annoying as i'm setting this up as a server
[04:36] <urlin2u> pushpop, that is what is in the repos what's up.
[04:36] <holstein> Guest39888: i think you are banned from that server... no one here can unban you
[04:36] <Snowman_> You are saying I edit the acpi file? That doesn't sound right.
[04:37] <Guest39888> and how can that happend?
[04:37] <Guest39888> is the first time i try to use it
[04:37] <pushpop> urlin2u, I leave my computer idle when I come back my gnome session is real slow and I have to run "r" to fix it?  Any ideas?
[04:37] <Guest39888> plus i will like to change my user name
[04:37] <holstein> Snowman_: check out http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1839408
[04:38] <Guest39888> cuz i dont like the guest thing
[04:38] <holstein> Guest39888: im not sure, but no one here maintains that server
[04:38] <urlin2u> pushpop, not really you can typoe top in the terminal when this happens a see whta is running.
[04:38] <MK`> aBound: could you recommend a good GUI download manager, perchance?
[04:38] <urlin2u> type*
[04:38] <pushpop> true I could.
[04:39] <YNH> no ideas on the gdm issue i'm having?
[04:39] <mkultra_> YNH, restate ur problem
[04:40] <mkultra_> lol netsplit?
[04:40] <YNH> I'm having an issue with gdm, I've changed the automatic login setting in the Login setting, and also edited the /etc/gdm/custom.conf but I reboot or halt and start back up again and it still prompts me to log in
[04:40] <holstein> YNH: i say that in lubuntu
[04:41] <holstein> saw*
[04:41] <YNH> it's really annoy, like the login is not handled by gdm
[04:41] <mkultra_> do you have root?
[04:41] <mkultra_> can u login fine still?
[04:41] <YNH> Ya
[04:41] <YNH> yep
[04:42] <juanchi> hi guys!! There is a synaptic feature that probes and selects the fastest server repositories.... Is there a way to get that by command line??
[04:42] <YNH> everything works great other then it just asks me to log in
[04:42] <urlin2u> YNH, what is the release you have installed, and the desktop?
[04:42] <YNH> 11.04
[04:42] <YNH> gnome
[04:42] <YNH> gnome classic
[04:42] <urlin2u> YNH, I think that is ldm.
[04:43] <YNH> see thats what it seams like
[04:43] <YNH> some other log in manager
[04:43] <YNH> ....looking
[04:43] <Argus33> how do i disable ipv6 anybody
[04:43] <walden> YNH: are you on lubuntu
[04:44] <holstein> walden: no... that was me.. YNH is on gnome
[04:44] <scientes> how do i take a webcam picture on 10.04
[04:44] <walden> ah right
[04:44] <scientes> I don't have cheese and cant install programs
[04:44] <holstein> scientes: then you cant... you can try some web service, but i cant think of one off hand
[04:45] <urlin2u> Argus33, method three is a easy way. http://www.ubuntugeek.com/how-to-disable-ipv6-in-ubuntu.html#more-95
[04:45] <holstein> scientes: install cheese in a live environment :)
[04:45] <YNH> walden, no Gnome classic
[04:45] <mkultra_> holy shit error
[04:46] <mkultra_> ill be back my machines flipping out
[04:46] <Argus33> thankyou
[04:48] <walden> scientes: that would be a live cd, its a good idea
[04:49] <YNH> walden, just checked ldm is not even installed
[04:50] <Snowman_> Thanks Holstein, that worked to turn off acpi
[04:50] <holstein> i think its called lightdm YNH
[04:50] <holstein> Snowman_: cool :)
[04:50] <urlin2u> Argus33, no problem.:)
[04:50] <YNH> adam@darkstar-server:/usr/lib$ lightdm
[04:50] <YNH> The program 'lightdm' is currently not installed.  You can install it by typing:
[04:50] <YNH> sudo apt-get install lightdm
[04:50] <YNH> :-\
[04:51] <superlinux> hiii
[04:51] <scientes> YNH, 10.04?
[04:51] <holstein> YNH: OK.. so its not lightdm... lets go for figuring out what you *do* have, and making that work, unless you would like to install lightdm and try it?
[04:51] <YNH> 11
[04:51] <scientes> YNH, /etc/init.d/gdm restart
[04:51] <YNH> oops 11.04
[04:51] <scientes> or it might be /etc/init.d/gdm3
[04:52] <YNH> holstein, eh dosen't really matter for me
[04:54] <YNH> brb rebooting
[04:56] <superlinux> anyone??
[04:56] <allquixotic> I have a program that spawns a child process that starts and ends VERY quickly (a few micro/milliseconds, way too quick to see it on top or ps). Is there a tool that can detect the process spawning and just give me the command line that was used to start the process?
[04:56] <veronica> Hello, i need to activate the ecologic functon in a Toshiba Satellite u505 laptop, can somebody help me??
[04:56] <ynh> ok thats f'ed up
[04:57] <ynh> I halted the computer, like off off and started it back up and didn't work
[04:57] <ynh> then someone suggested gdm restart and THAT worked
[04:58] <psusi> allquixotic, you can install the acct package and have it log every program that is every run iirc
[04:58] <ynh> so to who every suggested that thanks!
[04:58] <xxiao_> hmm can't join python channel
[04:58] <Snowman_> I had to turn off my USB 2.0 support in my bios to get the computer to boot. If I turn it back on it freezes at boot again. Any suggestions??
[04:58] <holstein> ynh: encrypted directory?
[04:58] <holstein> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gdm/+bug/753707 if so
[04:58] <psusi> veronica, define "ecologic function"
[04:59] <ynh> holstein, nope, fixed
[04:59] <pnorman> Snowman_: can you get into a grub screen?
[04:59] <Snowman_> yes by turning the USB 2.0 off.
[04:59] <ynh> holstein, did /etc/init.d/gdm restart and no login screen
[04:59] <psusi> Snowman_, and when you turn it on, it doesn't even make it to the grub menu?
[05:00] <Snowman_> Um, let me check.
[05:00] <pnorman> I believe there are some USB controllers and devices which require tweaking settings to work
[05:00] <holstein> ynh: sure...i was just reading where you said it wasnt working still and mis-understood
[05:02] <soulf_> Hi, in unity as well as gnome-shell the gtk theme and wallpaper don't load (instead there's a blue background and and ugly fallback theme), changing the settings in the gnome-tweak-tool or appearance menu changes nothing. The shell theme works so it's just the thing that unity and gnome-shell have in common that bugs(what do you call it, gnome3? gtk3?...). Oh and the problem started after I installed KDE. Help? :)
[05:02] <veronica> psusi, the toshiba satellite laptop has a application to use in an ecologic mode, using the miinimus of ligths that is necessary, this application is activate by a key, but in ubuntu 11.04 i can't to activate this application, can you help me??
[05:02] <Snowman_> On grub menu now.
[05:02] <ynh> holstein, oh sorry :-) it was just funny that i editing files etc turned the computer off and that didn't work, but just "gdm restart" did
[05:02] <mkultra_> lol got my machine to freak out good for a second
[05:03] <Snowman_> what do I need to tweak on my USB settings and how?
[05:03] <Rurd2di> tweak usb settings?
[05:03] <mkultra_> lsusb
[05:03] <Rurd2di> what do you mean?
[05:03] <mkultra_> lol
[05:04] <vitamin{> soulf_ did you try and logout and in the menu before you log back in make sure it is not set to fallback mode
[05:04] <pnorman> Snowman_: seeing if I can find what I looked up yesterday
[05:04] <psusi> veronica, "ocologic" is not a word... if you want to turn down the monitor brightness, there should be keys on the keyboard to adjust that
[05:04] <soulf_> vitamin{, yes it's definitely not in fallback mode. The gnome shell works and the minimize/maximize effects work too.
[05:05] <psusi> s/ocologic/ecologic
[05:06] <ynh> yay! on to setting up plex, minecraft, sabnzdb+
[05:06] <soulf_> vitamin{, same thing for unity, the dash(?) thing works fine... it's just the gtk theme, the wallpaper and the icons that don't load correctly and are uncahngeable...
[05:06] <vitamin{> soulf_ kde dident replace any of your video drivers did it?
[05:06] <veronica> psusi, do you know some laptop toshiba satellite? more specifically the toshiba satellite u505??
[05:07] <vitamin{> soulf_ what drivers were you using before?
[05:07] <soulf_> vitamin{, no, I don't use any proprietary drivers anyway and I don't see how it could be relate to that.
[05:09] <vitamin{> soulf_ ah thats what i was checking was proprietary drivers, ive had some crazy stuff happen with them. you try and edit anything with gconf-editor?
[05:09] <soulf_> vitamin{, no, what is it?
[05:10] <overclucker> soulf_: it sounds like a nautilus issue to me. not sure how to fix it though
[05:10] <Guest39888> j
[05:10] <Snowman_> Anything <pnorman>
[05:10] <vitamin{> soulf_ its a configuration editor
[05:11] <soulf_> vitamin{, okay, I'm installing it right now.
[05:11] <vitamin{> soulf_ so wait.. are you at a real low resolution like lower then normal?
[05:11] <soulf_> overclucker, nautilus? How so?
[05:11] <pnorman> Snowman_: I'm failing to find my search results.
[05:11] <soulf_> vitamin{, no.
[05:12] <vitamin{> soulf_ ubuntu 11.10?
[05:12] <soulf_> vitamin{, yes
[05:12] <overclucker> soulf_: nautilus is in charge of desktop icons and wallpapers, for some odd reason
[05:12] <Snowman_> Hmmm?
[05:12] <overclucker> soulf_: reminds me of explorer . .
[05:13] <soulf_> overclucker, really? Wow, did not know that...
[05:13] <Argus33> so what do i do about junk onboard wifi that i cant get to work and it will not see a usb wifi adapter
[05:13] <overclucker> soulf_: you could try moving .config/nautilus temporarily, and see what happens
[05:13] <vitamin{> soulf_ yea try gconf-editor has a option to take away control of the desktop away from natutils, im not familor with gnome-tweek-tool tho
[05:13] <pnorman> Snowman_: I'm not finding it - do you know if when it hangs any error messages are being written to /var/log/syslog?
[05:14] <Snowman_> No, I will check
[05:14] <overclucker> soulf_: i figured it out because nautilus always screw up my wallpaper in openbox . . .
[05:14] <soulf_> okay I'll try that. Thanks :)
[05:15] <scar3crow> looked all around the faq's and can't find a way to successfully add images to /usr/share/backgrounds/ and have them show up in the wallpaper switcher/login screen... help?
[05:15] <soulf_> overclucker, does nautilus control the application theme too though?
[05:15] <pnorman> Snowman_: Also, does it hang with no devices attached?
[05:15] <overclucker> soulf_: nope
[05:16] <veronica> Hello, i need to activate the ecologic functon in a Toshiba Satellite u505 laptop, can somebody help me??
[05:16] <piomic> hi guys i would like to install ubuntu 12.04 alternate daily build torrent this is this image ~700mb??
[05:16] <Snowman_> I hooked up the USB mouse to a PS/2 adapter just to check.
[05:17] <Argus33> forget it
[05:17] <urlin2u> piomic, look at the daily build and it will tell you.
[05:18] <piomic> ok but im looking for torent version:)
[05:18] <piomic> http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/daily/current/
[05:18] <urlin2u> piomic, there the sma eif there is one.
[05:19] <scar3crow> is there a server image somewhere yet?
[05:19] <Snowman_> Log says something like USB HC takeover failed.
[05:19] <overclucker> piomic: youre looking for a torrent for something released every day?
[05:21] <pnorman> Snowman_: what does uname -r say?
[05:21] <Snowman_> What is -r?
[05:21] <pnorman> gives you the kernel version
[05:22] <MK`> Will my ubuntu one account work for launchpad or is it separate?
[05:23] <Snowman_> In the syslog?
[05:23] <Snowman_> 9.395992
[05:23] <pnorman> no - just run it in a terminal
[05:24] <Snowman_> Didn't work
[05:24] <pnorman> Odd, I was expecting something like "3.0.0-14-server"
[05:24] <pnorman> try uname -a
[05:25] <Snowman_> 3.0.0-12
[05:25] <Snowman_> generic
[05:25] <Snowman_> i686 i386
[05:26] <pnorman> Updating the kernel *might* help
[05:26] <Snowman_> Ok I will have to quite chat for a bit to do that. I will be back.
[05:27] <pnorman> Snowman_: what I found indicates that if updating the kernel doesn't fix it, there's not much to be done
[05:27] <Snowman_> How do I update the kenel? Just run the updates?
[05:27] <pnorman> It's with apt, but not done automatically and the syntax escapes me right now
[05:28] <Snowman_> Is it this sudo apt-get update?
[05:28] <adhytia> hello
[05:28] <adhytia> testing
[05:29] <adhytia> adhytia@junos:~$ uname -a
[05:29] <adhytia> Linux junos 2.6.32-38-generic-pae #83-Ubuntu SMP Wed Jan 4 12:11:13 UTC 2012 i686 GNU/Linux
[05:29] <adhytia> adhytia@junos:~$
[05:29] <veronica> toshiba satellite brings the key in the function key next to Power, by the forward-backward, up, volume down, etc.
 this key serves to lower the brightness of the other function keys (not the blue that are activated with the Fn key, but they are bright)
 is a world that is shaped with two leaves on it, like an apple, I need to activate
[05:35] <soulf_> overclucker,  apparently in gnome3 gconf is replaced by dconf which can be accessed through the dconf-editor; I could find the nautilus settings but there doesn't seem to be anything related to the wallpaper, the theme, or icons (except specific icons within nautilus or some fading option for the background). I browsed through other options but there doesn't seem to be anything related to or relevant for my problem. :/
[05:41] <superdave321> how do I make a source trusted? there are some updates that my computer just won't download...
[05:41] <andyvy> hi, what's the command to check what version of Unity is running?
[05:41] <piomic> hi, which packages should i install after i install command-line from alternate version? xorg-window-core ? i whould like to install only gnome 3 shell
[05:42] <bobenhaus> hola
[05:43] <bobenhaus> Question: How do default the unity sidebar?
[05:44] <urlin2u> bobenhaus, could you be more succinct.
[05:44] <escott> soulf_, unlike gconf it seems that options dont exist until they are changed. in gconf you always had the schema to fall back on but in dconf you dont. but often you can just set the gconf key and it seems to work
[05:47] <bobenhaus> anyone know how to reset unity ?
[05:47] <superdave321> how do I make a source trusted? there are some updates that my computer just won't download...
[05:51] <riff> helloz
[05:51] <urlin2u> superdave321, you geting key missing or not good in the terminal.
[05:52] <superdave321> actually using the update gui, but i do have a key missing in a different repo...
[05:55] <urlin2u> superdave321, a terminal update will tell you run this if you get a key problem. sudo apt-key adv --keyserver keyserver.ubuntu.com --recv-keys "key here"
[05:56] <soulf_> escott, what do you mean "just set the gconf key"? How would I do that?
[05:56] <superdave321> where do I get the "key here" part?
[05:57] <urlin2u> bobosomfan, unity --reset or unity --replace I forget which one
[05:57] <urlin2u> bobosomfan, no sudo
[05:58] <riff> !ot ylzaho
[05:58] <riff> !ot ylzhao
[05:58] <urlin2u> superdave321, run a update in the terminal use the key mentioned in the key here
[05:59] <superdave321> I'm guessing apt-get update?
[05:59] <urlin2u> superdave321, yeah sudo apt-get update don't do this in root
[05:59] <superdave321> riff you have to use a '|' inbetween command and username...
[06:00] <superdave321> urlin2u isn't that what sudo does...
[06:00] <urlin2u> superdave321, yeah but some people like to just access root to do stuff when not needed, just a precautionary.
[06:01] <superdave321> ahh. ok. gotcha. will do.
[06:01] <urlin2u> superdave321, the apt-get update just triggered a red flag.
[06:01] <superdave321> ?
[06:02] <urlin2u> superdave321, like I said we get people on here running root all the time we never know. :)
[06:02] <escott> soulf_, i would (a) try using gconf-editor it might still work. if it doesnt then use dconf-editor but create the key and directory based on what you see in gconf-editor schemas (alternately use gsettings cli to create and set the value)
[06:02] <superdave321> urlin2u: gotcha
[06:03] <bobenhaus> anyon know the apt command to completely reinstall unity?
[06:03] <jschall> is there an ubuntu tablet available?
[06:03] <bobenhaus> !unity
[06:03] <urlin2u> bobenhaus, can you tell us your problem that might help.
[06:03] <soulf_> escott, alright thanks, (b) it is :)
[06:03] <bobenhaus> urlin2u: I uninstalled it because was not working probably and now I need to reinstall it
[06:04] <urlin2u> you been tweaking compiz? bobenhaus
[06:04] <bobenhaus> urlin2u: yeah and it screwed up my unity
[06:04] <bobenhaus> nomore unity for me
[06:04] <bobenhaus> I mean, compiz
[06:04] <urlin2u> bobenhaus, unity is aplugin in compiz.
[06:05] <bobenhaus> doh
[06:05] <hiexpo> !doorknob
[06:05] <superdave321> urlin2u: alright... running update...
[06:05] <urlin2u> bobenhaus, how did you remove unity?
[06:05] <bobenhaus> urlin2u: do you know how to reinstall unity from atp command?
[06:06] <bobenhaus> urlin2u" from softare manager but all my icons are gone now
[06:06] <hiexpo> oops
[06:06] <urlin2u> bobenhaus, the ubuntu software center
[06:07] <bobenhaus> urlin2u: I need to know the command to bring it up in terminal since I have no icons to launch it :)
[06:07] <bobenhaus> anyone know the terminal command to launch the software manager?
[06:07] <bobenhaus> !software manager
[06:08] <urlin2u> bobenhaus, right but without some back info I can't help.
[06:08] <hiexpo> you mean synaptic
[06:09] <bobenhaus> urlin2u: do you know the command to bring up the softare manager in a terminal window?
[06:09] <skilz> bobenhaus, software-manager
[06:10] <urlin2u> bobenhaus, I asked if that was the ubuntu software center another asked if synaptic, can you like answer questions
[06:10] <hiexpo> no command for that bobenhaus > why you want it a terminal ?
[06:10] <bobenhaus> its the ubuntu software manager
[06:10] <skilz> apt-cache search and apt-get install
[06:10] <urlin2u> bobenhaus, to be honest you cart before the horse got you here and is hidering any help.
[06:11] <bobenhaus> nevermind I will figure it out myself.
[06:13] <damo22> how do i purge all packages that are provided by a metapackage?
[06:14] <bobenhaus> this is all I wanted but you didnt understand:   sudo software-center --enable-lp
[06:14] <urlin2u> bobenhaus, we understood you are just not working in a logical manner by asking for help.
[06:15] <urlin2u> by=in
[06:15] <bobenhaus> I asked you several times how to bring up the software manager from with in the  terminal?  How hard was it to understand?
[06:15] <bobenhaus> I
[06:16] <urlin2u> bobenhaus, you did not know the unity was aplug in in compiz you could of fixed that desktop broken with a reset there.
[06:16] <bobenhaus> I'm still new to ubuntu so now going to know all commands or words
[06:17] <bobenhaus> I could of just reinstalled ubuntu from scratch but I wanted to learn instead of starting over when I make mistakes
[06:17] <urlin2u> bobenhaus, being new is fine but it was obvious you were kind of lost I don't just give info to lost users who broke there set up without some info.
[06:17] <superdave321> urlin2u: thanks for the tips! problem resolved!
[06:17] <urlin2u> superdave321, cool. :)
[06:17] <bobenhaus> urlin2u: no biggie.. I got it working now.  thanks
[06:17] <urlin2u> bobenhaus, cool
[06:18] <bobenhaus> I forgot I have a Xoom tablet lol
[06:18] <bobenhaus> thanks
[06:19] <bobenhaus> brb need to reboot. lets just hope it works
[06:22] <sixple> how do I go about mounting a .iso
[06:22] <superdave321> disk utility?
[06:23] <sixple> ok
[06:23] <overclucker> sixple: you can right click mount it, mount -o loop disk.sio /mount/point
[06:23] <soulf_> hey all, the wallpaper, gtk-theme, and icons that I set don't load. Instead, a blue background and ugly fallback theme with default icons load. The rest works fine (i.e. the shell theme loads correctly, the fonts display correctly, effects work etc.) Changing the settings causes nothing (whether in gnome-tweak-tool or the standard appearance menu not matter what theme or wallpaper I select...) This happened after I installed KDE. I al
[06:23] <soulf_> ready looked at the dconf-tool and the settings there reflect those of the gnometweaktool and changing them changes nothing. Any ideas?
[06:24] <overclucker> sixple: right click mount it OR ...
[06:24] <sixple> overclucker thanks
[06:30] <sun_devil> I have a directory and need to change the owner back to root  with chown and I also need to use chown for permissions
[06:31] <jschall> is there an ubuntu tablet available yet?
[06:33] <urlin2u> jschall, http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2012/01/ubuntu-tablet-to-compete-with-android-ios/
[06:34] <sun_devil> a chown permission of 770
[06:35] <escott> sun_devil, chown doesnt change permission bits it changes ownership. chmod changes the permission bits
[06:36] <sun_devil> Ok, how would you change owner back to root with chown
[06:36] <escott> !man | sun_devil
[06:37] <escott> sun_devil, chown [OPTION]... [OWNER][:[GROUP]] FILE..
[06:38] <sun_devil> I tried chown root:account root
[06:38] <escott> sun_devil, why are you trying to change the group to "account" and is the file really named "root"
[06:38] <phibxr> sun_devil, what are you trying to change the ownership of?
[06:39] <sun_devil> my group is called account but I by mistake changed the owner
[06:39] <escott> sun_devil, it would be chown root filename or chown root:root filename or chown root:someothergroup filename
[06:43] <sun_devil> what does the blue color mean, directory?
[06:43] <ztag100> Could anyone let me know why this happens?
[06:43] <ztag100> http://imgur.com/ExcLs
[06:43] <Dr_willis> try a ls -l and see. the colors can differ depending on the terminal app.
[06:44] <Dr_willis> ztag100:  you could at least aummarize the problem
[06:44] <ztag100> Dr_willis, I mean the background in conky
[06:44] <ztag100> it is supposed to be transparent
[06:45] <ztag100> but instead, it's that
[06:45] <Dr_willis> as for conky -  try restarting it. with some differnt config settings. try some example config files also.
[06:45] <sun_devil> will not let me change the root
[06:46] <Dr_willis> Your terminal has a differnt wallpaper then your desktop?
[06:46] <escott> sun_devil, unprivileged users cant just chown files to root
[06:47] <sun_devil> I am root, want to change the owner back to root
[06:47] <Dr_willis> sun_devil:  so what command are you using exactly?
[06:47] <sun_devil> Sorry I did it
[06:48] <sun_devil> did a chown root:account acctsrecv
[06:49] <escott> sun_devil, and what error message did it give you
[06:50] <sun_devil> none, the root is owner, account is group and not sure what acctsrecv is but did a ls -l and it looks good
[06:51] <Dr_willis> not sure wat acctrecv is? thats the file you are working on...
[06:51] <Dr_willis> are we doing some homework exersize?
[06:52] <sun_devil> trying to understand the file system and its like trying to learn a foreign language
[06:52] <escott> !permissions | sun_devil
[06:52] <Dr_willis> I found it rather straight forward compared to how windows does permssions.
[06:52] <sun_devil> Never had to use permissions on windows
[06:52] <Dr_willis> Theres some more advanced things you can do with linux fs's that i rarely touch. (ACL's and so forth) but the basics are rather straight forward
[06:52] <Dr_willis> You are lucky then.
[06:53] <Dr_willis> Having to right with them getting set wrong all the time on win7
[06:53] <Dr_willis> fight.
[06:53] <escott> Dr_willis, windows has permissions? unless you mean that dialog with 14 tabs where you end up selecting everything because otherwise nothing works
[06:53] <sun_devil> VMware is a great idea to trying this stuff out on
[06:53] <Dr_willis> escott:  and you discover a dozen users that seem tobe 100 didgit clsid #'s
[06:54] <sun_devil> In windows it the configurations that nobody touches
[06:55] <Dr_willis> ive had to touch them due to windows screwing them up.
[06:55] <Fudge> hi i am trying to mount an hfs partition on an osx drive, /dev only lists sdc but fdisk -l lists sdc1 and an empty sdc2, how can i mount it if dev doesnt show sdc1
[06:55] <escott> Dr_willis, my favorite was when the auditing group at our bank got pissed because the traders had rw access to the risk control stuff so we sent a very carefully filled out form to the filesystem specialist saying exactly how the permissions needed to be, waited for them to say it was done, and then a week later i find that the traders still have access
[06:55] <Dr_willis> I rarely ever need to mess with groups in linux really...
[06:56] <escott> Fudge, fyi you won't be able to get rw without disabling journaling on hfs+
[06:56] <Dr_willis> small home lans... gotta love them
[06:56] <sun_devil> Well just something you should know and you only use it once
[06:56] <Fudge> escott  i have read that but im trying to mount it to fix something
[06:57] <skilz> How can I change the direction windows minimize, I want them to go up not down since I have my toolbar up the top of my screen
[06:57] <escott> so the thing that is weird in your description is the use of fdisk. shouldn't a mac partition be on a gpt disk. in which case why are you seeing anything with fdisk?
[06:57] <Fudge> fdisk does say its gpt yes
[06:57] <sixple> why am i getting this error message: You don't have the right permissions to extract archives in the folder "file:///media/GAMES/DS%20Games"
[06:58] <Dr_willis> skilz:  you could check the ccsm tools settings. but be carefull with that tool.
[06:58] <escott> sixple, because you dont have write permissions on /media/Games/DS Games
[06:58] <Fudge> escott  the drive was installed on another computer and put into this box after a while, so osx isnt loading i guess hardware cahnges, but i cant read the errors or try to fix it when booting into osx so thought i may be able to do something if i mount it, guess not
[06:58] <sixple> but why
[06:59] <Dr_willis> simplexio:  what filesystem is that  Games disk using? this is a usb? a hard drive?
[06:59] <escott> sixple, hard to say without more details. what kind of file system is /media/GAMES
[06:59] <sixple> its a micro SD card
[07:00] <escott> Fudge, is this an old version of linux that doesnt understand gpt? is it listed in /proc/partitions
[07:00] <cadz> how do i get in to the control panel
[07:00] <escott> sixple, does the microsd or its adapter have a read only toggle? (its a physical switch) and is it set to rw?
[07:00] <Dr_willis> Top right gear/thing icon has menu to get to some settings.
[07:01] <sixple> its got 'lock' but its not toggled to the 'lock' position
[07:02] <Dr_willis> ive seen where removeable vfat/ntfs get mounted in such a way that  the user needs root access to get to them fully. You can run the 'ntfs-config' tool to tweak the system so all users have full rights to them
[07:02] <Dr_willis> plug it in., see if root can write to it from the terminal, check 'mount' output to see what its mounted options are.
[07:03] <Dr_willis> You could also just copy the files to your home, and extract them there. :)
[07:04] <StealthVipera47> Hi all!
[07:04] <Dr_willis> Jello!
[07:05] <cadz> how do i get in to the control panel
[07:05] <deel> Hi folks please see following thread http://askubuntu.com/questions/103508/wireless-disconnects-ask-authorization-frequently-again-and-again
[07:06] <skilz> Dr_willis, I don't use Compiz or Gnome, I use Fluxbox and xcompmgr
[07:06] <gh0strat> I am getting odd screen-bounce when I go to log-in. It goes away if I switch to tty1 and back. I'm using the proprietary nvidia drivers nad have dual monitors set up with TwinView. Any ideas?
[07:07] <deel> and also see this thread http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1922733
[07:07] <urlin2u> deel, you have connect automatically and all users on in the network manager
[07:07] <sun_devil> Ok since I changed my owner back to root, should I do redo my symbolic link to a directory or is is ok after I changed the owner?
[07:07] <deel> @urlin2u I could not understand your question
[07:07] <deel> oh yes yes
[07:08] <deel> it is connect automaticaly and all users in network manager
[07:09] <urlin2u> deel, i the network manger is a box for connect automatically and one for all users, not sure about the disconnect though, but the authorization would be what I refrencing.
[07:09] <cadz> how can i fullscreen irssi?
[07:09] <urlin2u> in*
[07:09] <deel> yes  I got your point
[07:09] <deel> things are enabled for all users and automatically
[07:09] <deel> connect is also there
[07:09] <urlin2u> deel, you using your own wifi?
[07:10] <deel> yes
[07:10] <Dr_willis> http://castrojo.tumblr.com/post/4795149014/the-power-users-guide-to-unity    good collection of unity tutorials and guides and manuals.
[07:10] <deel> I have a wifi
[07:10] <deel> the wireless is my home broadband connection
[07:10] <skilz> Dr_willis,
[07:10] <urlin2u> deel strange the authorization is for your password?
[07:10] <totesmuhgoats> cadz: make your terminal fullscreen?
[07:10] <cadz> yes
[07:10] <deel> yes that is the problem
[07:10] <deel> each time it detects the ESSID
[07:10] <Dr_willis> skilz:  refresh the channels memory as to what you are talking about.. :)
[07:10] <deel> it asks to enter the key
[07:10] <deel> which I enter correctly
[07:10] <cadz> totesmuhgoats: yes
[07:11] <deel> some times it is able to connect
[07:11] <deel> but even if connected after working
[07:11] <deel> for say 30 minutes or so
[07:11] <deel> it disconnects
[07:11] <cadz> oh i found it, F11
[07:11] <deel> and then it repeatedly asks
[07:11] <deel> to enter authorization
[07:11] <cadz> but now that annoying side bar is in my transparency
[07:11] <deel> the router is kept just in front of me
[07:11] <cadz> is there a way to turn my sidebar in ubuntu on auto hide?
[07:11] <deel> every thing like lights to connect on internet there are correctly blinking
[07:12] <deel> only my laptop is showing this problem
[07:12] <Dr_willis> cadz:  theres unity ccsm plugin settings to tweak how the left side launcher hides.  I set it to never hide.
[07:12] <skilz> Dr_willis, I don't use Compiz or Gnome, I use Fluxbox and xcompmgr, when I minimize a window and restore it, the window appears from the bottom on my screen, I want it to appear from the top
[07:12] <Dr_willis> skilz:  no idea on that. Would be a fluxbox setting i imagine.
[07:12] <urlin2u> deel, not sure strange.
[07:12] <Dr_willis> fluxbox has a lot of thigns inits config files.
[07:12] <skilz> I thought it would be GTK or Xorg?
[07:13] <deel> yes that is strange that is why I posted on forums
[07:13] <sixple> when I use the Terminal and it asks for my password -- it doesnt respond to anything when I try to type the password... whats going on?
[07:13] <cadz> Dr_willis: Why can't it be easy like windows and right cliick -> autohide?
[07:13] <Dr_willis> xorg wouldent be handling the eyecandy like that. Its the window manager.
[07:13] <urlin2u> sixple, the password is invisible.
[07:13] <cfhowlett> sixple: it will not show what you type for the password
[07:13] <skilz> You know like in OS X, windows drop down from the top of the screen... I want that affect!
[07:13] <Dr_willis> cadz:  Never noticed.. I set it to never hide. I think thats going to be the default in the next release also.
[07:13] <sixple> ok
[07:14] <Dr_willis> skilz:  You may want to use somthing other then the rather minimal fluxbox then.
[07:14] <skilz> Like?
[07:15] <Dr_willis> http://www.webupd8.org/2012/02/how-to-create-standalone-compiz-session.html
[07:15] <Dr_willis> theres dozens of other window managers out there.   I dont play with them all much any more.
[07:15] <sun_devil> how do I look at the symbolic link to see if it points to a certain directory
[07:15] <Dr_willis> If you want eyecandy and not compiz. theres Enlightenment.
[07:16] <Dr_willis> sun_devil:  ls -l /the/link/
[07:16] <sun_devil> cd /etc/skel   1st
[07:17] <Dr_willis> ls -la /etc/skel
[07:17] <deel> \q
[07:18] <sun_devil> This stuff is confusing
[07:18] <Dr_willis> Its all documented...
[07:19] <Dr_willis> basically identical to what unix systems have been useing for ages...
[07:19] <Dr_willis> Remember CaSe Is ImpornTanT In LiNuX :)
[07:19] <sethpolma> Hey there! I freshly installed Ubuntu, but I got a big problem with git. "git clone" is very very slow... Any idea? :/
[07:20] <extender> I can't boot my system with a degraded raid, it gives me the illusion of a choice on boot, but always drops to an initramfs shell
[07:20] <diuneigh> can someone tell me how to permanently turn on my swap file?
[07:21] <Dr_willis> diuneigh:  you could put the proper swap on command in /etc/rc.local   but there may be better ways.
[07:21] <Dr_willis> 'swapon'
[07:21] <diuneigh> I used fstap before.. but I forgot..
[07:21] <diuneigh> ftab.
[07:22] <diuneigh> fstab I mean
[07:22] <Dr_willis> first google hit -> http://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/linux-add-a-swap-file-howto/
[07:22] <Dr_willis> line like -->     /swapfile1 swap swap defaults 0 0
[07:23] <diuneigh> Dr. thanks. I 'll play with that.
[07:23] <vitamin{> does the open source ati driver have a name? I could have swore it was called something like Rage?
[07:24] <Dr_willis> vitamin{:  ati, or radeon
[07:24] <cfhowlett> vitamin{: rage is ANCIENT
[07:24] <vitamin{> oh lol, thanks.  What is the name of the open source driver then?
[07:24] <Dr_willis> other url says use fstab entry like --->  /extraswap   none   swap   sw   0   0
[07:24] <srini> I need to improve Audio quality... Any other appliation is need to install ??
[07:25] <Dr_willis> FGLRX is theclosed source driver.. ati or radeon is the GPL one.
[07:25] <vitamin{> oh kk.
[07:25] <vitamin{> thanks
[07:25] <extender> how can I continue to boot from an initramfs shell?
[07:25] <Dr_willis> the fglrx driver has issues with Gnome-Shell here. :(  unity works with it.
[07:31] <cloudgeek> any pip user here
[07:32] <sun_devil> Ok since I changed my owner back to root, should I do redo my symbolic link to a directory or is is ok after I changed the owner?
[07:36] <dobblego> can anyone suggest some fun network games for my kids? we've played tremulous but it gets a bit boring
[07:38] <cfhowlett> dobblego: ages??
[07:38] <dobblego> 9 and 11
[07:39] <cfhowlett> dobblego: supertuxkart extreme tux racer
[07:39] <dobblego> are they network games?
[07:40] <cfhowlett> dobblego: I think so...alienarena also it it's not too spooky
[07:40] <adrian___> hello, does know the default mouse theme in xfce 4.6.1?
[07:40] <dobblego> oh ok thanks
[07:40] <cfhowlett> dobblego: software center search "network games"
[07:40] <dobblego> cfhowlett: ok cheers
[07:42] <adrian___> how can I import the mouse theme from 4.6.1 in 4.8xfce?
[07:45] <dobblego> cfhowlett: I don't think supertuxkart is a network game -- I cannot find the setting anyway
[07:46] <cfhowlett> dobblego: sorry for the misinformation
[07:46] <dobblego> that's cool
[07:48] <ganimede> under ubuntu 11.04, in which file is the default $PATH defined, please?
[07:48] <ganimede> and in which file is the X server started? (need to install nvidia developer drivers before launching it)
[07:52] <piliakis> hello, one question, does anyone know a way to change the icon used by an application in the notification area? in Ubuntu 11.10
[07:53] <sun_devil> Anyone have knowledge of symbolic links
[07:54] <dobblego> sun_devil: sure what's up?
[07:54] <sun_devil> how can I check on a link to see if it works
[07:54] <sun_devil> points to a directory
[07:54] <dobblego> what does that mean exactly? you mean if it is pointing to an existing file?
[07:54] <dobblego> [ -d "swizzle"]
[07:54] <dobblego> [ -d "swizzle" ]
[07:56] <dobblego> $ mkdir -p /tmp/abc && [ -d "/tmp/notexists" ]
[07:56] <dobblego> $ echo $?
[07:56] <dobblego> 1
[07:56] <sun_devil> Iam in opt and want to see if the link points to /opt/acctsrecv.  Earlier I put the link in /etc/skel
[07:56] <dobblego> $ mkdir -p /tmp/abc && [ -d "/tmp/abc" ]
[07:56] <dobblego> $ echo $?
[07:56] <FloodBot1> dobblego: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[07:56] <dobblego> 0
[07:57] <ubuntuaddicted> morning
[07:58] <sun_devil> I created a group, account, owner.  Then went to /etc/skel but want to see if it actually points to it
[07:59] <sun_devil> points to /opt/acctsrecv
[08:12] <piliakis> hello, one question, does anyone know a way to change the icon used by an application in the notification area? in Ubuntu 11.10
[08:13] <gerzel> Q:  I have Ubuntu 11.04 and am running gnome 2 and am wondering what will happen when I hit the upgrade button for 11.10.  Will my system be put into gnome3 style or will I still have my panel bars as I've set them up previously?
[08:14] <auronandace> gerzel: gnome2 will likely disappear
[08:14] <dooglus> gerzel: I upgraded my gf's 11.04 to 11.10 today and it messed quite a lot of stuff up
[08:14] <auronandace> gerzel: i suggest moving to xfce
[08:14] <gerzel> dang
[08:14] <dooglus> auronandace: she was using xfce.  the upgrade switched her to unity
[08:15] <auronandace> dooglus: if she was using ubuntu and installed xfce after then upgrade i can understand why
[08:15] <Chipzzz> does anyone know how i can modify an entry in unity's app menu?
[08:15] <gerzel> so it will mess things up with my settings.  I also have a dual monitor set-up
[08:15] <auronandace> dooglus: if she was using xubuntu and upgraded she wouldn't get unity
[08:15] <dooglus> auronandace: it's an ubuntu install
[08:16] <auronandace> dooglus: there you go then
[08:16] <dooglus> auronandace: she installed xfce, switched to it, then the installed switched to unity
[08:16] <dooglus> the upgrade
[08:17] <auronandace> gerzel: from 11.10 onwards gnome2 is no longer supported, find an alternative or adapt to unity or gnome3
[08:21] <robin0800> gerzel: gnome3 classic is quite good IMHO
[08:21] <gerzel> robin: Looking into it.  I don't like xfce nor kde.
[08:22] <auronandace> gerzel: there's also lxde and enlightenment
[08:22] <gerzel> auronadace: Tried don't like it.  This might push me into full xmonad.
[08:23] <gerzel> depending on the annoyance factor of gnome shell classic
[08:32] <auronandace> !bug | piliakis
[08:32] <kapz> Hi! is ther any way to change the window control position to change from left to right? Web search does not provide clear  answers...
[08:33] <cfhowlett> kapz: what version of ubuntu?
[08:33] <auronandace> !controls | kapz
[08:37]  * kalimojo hi
[08:38] <cfhowlett> kalimojo: greetings
[08:38] <hotring> Hello, I installed dockbarx on my ubuntu natty but I cant see it in the panel list!
[08:39] <hotring> ??
[08:40] <hotring> Hello, I installed dockbarx on my ubuntu natty but I cant see it in the panel list!
[08:40] <cfhowlett> !patience|hotring
[08:41] <kalimojo> im on 11.10. how do i upgrade to 12.04 and will i still be able to use gnome
[08:41] <cfhowlett> !ubuntu+1|kalimjoj
[08:41] <cfhowlett> !ubuntu+1|kalimojo
[08:42] <auronandace> hotring: what is dockbarx and how did you install it?
[08:43] <Chipzzz> hotring: have you tried cairo-dock?
[08:44] <hotring> no Chipzzz i have not tried cairo dock I wanted something like windows 7 taskbar so I went for dockbarx
[08:45] <yao_ziyuan> how do i see which processes are using the hard disk most heavily now?
[08:45] <yao_ziyuan> i'm hearing intensive hard disk activity
[08:45] <mikem94590> What does updating to kernel 3.2.5 on Oneiric entail?
[08:45] <kalimojo> what log do incorrect logins go to ?
[08:45] <cfhowlett> yao_ziyuan: top
[08:46] <Chipzzz> It's up to you but i just watched a video about dockbarx and cairo seems nicer looking and more flexible... but to each is own :-)
[08:46] <auronandace> mikem94590: losing support here
[08:46] <yao_ziyuan> cfhowlett: i only see memory in 'top'
[08:46] <mikem94590> Haha
[08:46] <mikem94590> I've had to run Windows for like a month now after my old laptop died
[08:46] <hotring> Chipzzz, ohh but I love dockbarx, can you tell me how do I add it to startup?
[08:46] <pnorman> yao_ziyuan: iotop is what I use. not sure if it's installed by default
[08:46] <mikem94590> Bought this new one and got stuck with power regression issues
[08:47] <mikem94590> Heard that kernel 3.2.5 fixed that
[08:47] <auronandace> !kernel | mikem94590
[08:47] <Chipzzz> hotring: it doesn't show up in 'startup programs'?
[08:48] <yao_ziyuan> pnorman: thx
[08:48] <mikem94590> Is 3.2.5 in repos?
[08:48] <pnorman> APT is telling me that "The following packages have been kept back", how do I upgrade those packages
[08:49] <cool> machine freezes for couple seconds & then works & then again freezes. this cycle goes on on a infinite lopp. In logs, I get "device reported invalid sector 0". logs: https://gist.github.com/1807351  what is wrong?
[08:49] <Yabden> if packages are being kept back, check your sources.list for pinning
[08:49] <Yabden> or rather, your preferences file
[08:50] <pnorman> Yabden: they're the linux-server, linux-headers-server and linux-image-server packages
[08:50] <auronandace> mikem94590: no, if there is a ppa of it you could use that (ppas are also not supported here)
[08:50] <mikem94590> Alrighty
[08:50] <mikem94590> I appreciate the insight
[08:50] <mikem94590> Thanks for your time :)
[08:51] <auronandace> mikem94590: no worries :)
[08:51] <cfhowlett> hotring: also see AWN dock
[08:51] <mikem94590> Perhaps I'll just wait for 12.04
[08:51] <pnorman> Yabden: Where would the preferences file be?
[08:52] <Jordan_U> pnorman: Normally this shouldn't happen unless you're using ppas or other third party repositories (or a development version of Ubuntu).
[08:52] <mikem94590> Hmm
[08:52] <mikem94590> http://askubuntu.com/questions/98602/will-final-version-of-12-04-use-the-power-management-changes-found-in-kernel-3-3
[08:53] <mikem94590> Looks like that fixes my problem :)
[08:53] <hotring> Chipzzz I think I found the executable file for dockbarx in /usr/bin folder and I ran it, the taskbar works, can you now tell me how do I add it to startup list?
[08:53] <pnorman> Jordan_U: linux-headers-server linux-image-server linux-server aren't from any of the PPAs I use, and I'm just running 11.10 server, nothing special
[08:54] <Jordan_U> pnorman: It's often not the packages from the ppa which are held back, but rather conflics in ppa packages cause non-ppa packes not to be upgradable.
[08:54] <Chipzzz> hotring: in a terminal type, "gnome-session-properties"
[08:54] <pnorman> How would I identify the conflicts?
[08:54] <hotring> well, awn looks promising cfhowlett, but can you tell me how to I add dockbarx to startup? i have never added any program to startup.
[08:55] <Chipzzz> hotring: i just told you above
[08:55] <hotring> then
[08:55] <Jordan_U> pnorman: Try running "sudo apt-get install linux-image-server" to see why that particular packages is being held back. It may be that all you need to do is run "sudo apt-get dist-upgrade" though, which may propose to remove some packages (you'll need to decide if they are packages you care about).
[08:55] <Chipzzz> hotring: then check dockbarx
[08:56] <pnorman> Ah, dist-upgrade is what I was thinking of
[08:56] <hotring> dockbarx is not there, should I select it from /usr/bin?
[08:57] <Chipzzz> hotring: yes. click "Add" and make a launcher for it
[08:57] <hotring> ok I added it, now since I use natty, can I replace the panel with this dockbarx?
[08:58] <Chipzzz> hotring: i don't think so, but you can auto-hide the panel
[08:58] <robin0800> hotring: usr/share/applications perhaps
[08:59] <hotring> Chipzzz can you tell me how to auto-hide this panel?
[09:00] <hotring> oh i got it I saw the auto hide option
[09:01] <Chipzzz> hotring: :-)
[09:01] <hotring> Chipzzz, can you suggest some nice screenlets?
[09:01] <Chipzzz> I like the weather and system monitor applets
[09:02] <Chipzzz> hotring: also the wifi signal strength is sometimes useful for me
[09:02] <hotring> hey can you send me the link to system monitor applet? I would love to try it Chipzzz
[09:04] <hotring> Chipzzz, can you modify any screenlet?
[09:05] <hotring> or add or delete its features?
[09:06] <ejv> what's a screenlet
[09:06] <Chipzzz> hotring: the system monitor i'm using is system load indicator... if it isn't in the available applets, software center should have it
[09:06] <Chipzzz> hotring: yes, you can modify applets... most are written in python and are easily accessible
[09:06] <Ohto> #ubuntu-fi
[09:06] <hcuongvn> Hi all. I need some helps to fix error with "smplayer" software!
[09:06] <sda> hi all, I have an Broadcom Corporation BCM43225 802.11b/g/n (rev 01) with kernel firmware, it search only N wireless it seems unable to find my wifi G AP
[09:07] <hotring> ok do you know how to create a screenlet? just asking
[09:08] <rdjmhgh> hi i have noticed an issue with amavisd in 12.04
[09:08] <Chipzzz> hotring: i've modified several but never written one from scratch. I suppose i could if i had to, why?
[09:09] <rdjmhgh> the script does not restart correcty
[09:09] <EvilResistance> !12.04 | rdjmhgh
[09:09] <rdjmhgh> OK
[09:10] <sda> worse than i though, somehow i cannot find ANY wireless connection with iwlist but from gnome it found only N
[09:10] <hotring> Chipzzz, I used to love rainmeter in windows and modified a lot of skins in rainmeter so I was just asking whether modifying screenlets is as easy as modifying rainmeter skins
[09:13] <hotring> ??
[09:13] <Chipzzz> hotring: rainmeter looks really nice but i don't know much about its internals... applets are usually only a few hundred lines of python and fairly easy to modify, though, given a little thought
[09:14] <Walther> Iirc, rainmeter is a config madness
[09:14] <hotring> ohh, incase you have screenlets, can I see their snapshots plz?
[09:15] <nightcrow> hiya
[09:15] <nightcrow> can someone please tell me how i can add a user to use a specific application that can only be run as root
[09:15] <nightcrow> i know it requires modifying the passwd, but im not sure how
[09:16] <Chipzzz> hotring: I ran screenlets in earlier versions of ubuntu but i'm just using the applets that cairo-dock supports right now
[09:17] <llutz> nightcrow: run it with sudo, add your user to the admin group
[09:17] <nightcrow> thats the thing, i dont want her to be admin
[09:17] <Guest55659> ciao
[09:17] <Guest55659> !List
[09:17] <nightcrow> i only want her to be able to use: apt-mirror:x:120:133::/var/spool/apt-mirror:/bin/sh
[09:17] <nightcrow> llutz: certainly dont want her admin
[09:18] <nightcrow> llutz: its a machine that has lots of user, so i only want her to be able to use: apt-mirror:x:120:133::/var/spool/apt-mirror:/bin/sh
[09:18] <hotring> ookk Chipzzz can I see screenshot of your cairodock?
[09:18] <ejv> !list
[09:18] <ejv> what does list have to do with file sharing O_o
[09:18] <nightcrow> isnt it just about modifying the /etc/group file?
[09:19] <EvilResistance> ejv, what're you looking for?
[09:19] <PeoplesAdvocate> Is this a good place to ask a simple question about ubuntu servers?
[09:19] <ejv> nothing, i just find the command peculiar
[09:19] <EvilResistance> PeoplesAdvocate, yes, you can do that here
[09:19] <EvilResistance> ejv, indeed
[09:20] <hotring> Chipzzz?
[09:20] <ejv> i just had to reboot my ubuntu server, there goes my 5 week uptime, i hate you ubuntu! (no, not really)
[09:20] <HeavyMetal> hi i made a RAM disk but when i am finished with it how to i flush it to release the RAM?
[09:20] <Chipzzz> hotring: here's a video that shows it off nicely (not mine, specifically, but a generic install): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EbUynt1iJic
[09:20] <oCean> ejv: on some other networks, IRC is used for filesharing between users. The list command shows available content there
[09:21] <ejv> oCean: sounds... arcane.
[09:21] <PeoplesAdvocate> Ok thanks EvilResistance: I have been looking around for best practices about DocumentRoot on Apache or Nginx. I seem to see people recommend to leave it at /srv/www/ and others in your home directory! What is the recommend setup?
[09:21] <ejv> arcane/archaic :-)
[09:22] <^Blackflowers^> Hi, i'm looking into ubuntu to install on my other computer. I am looking to use it mainly to serve files and host some web sites could I just use ubuntu and not ubuntu-server?
[09:22] <Chipzzz> hotring: bear in mind that it's highly configurable and can run in quite a few different configurations
[09:22] <EvilResistance> PeoplesAdvocate, i use /var/www, another admin i know uses /home/webuser/public_html/, it really depends on your setup.  If you want pure default, /var/www/ is a safe bet.
[09:22] <ejv> ^Blackflowers^: my understanding is that server is more stripped down (no desktop environment for example) than the normal desktop ubuntu iso
[09:23] <hotring> ohhhhh its niceeee
[09:23] <Chipzzz> hotring: :-)
[09:23] <oCean> ^Blackflowers^: sure, because you can install any available software (in the repositories) on both the -server and -desktop editions
[09:23] <Chipzzz> hotring: highly recommended
[09:23] <ejv> ^Blackflowers^: so you may, in fact, *prefer* ubuntu server, from a security standpoint no less
[09:23] <sissi> ciao
[09:24] <^Blackflowers^> Okay.
[09:25] <ejv> ^Blackflowers^: installation from server will be a tad bit different than the desktop version. the ubuntu server install can only be described as ... DOS-ish, for lack of a better adjective. Of course you can, at a later time, choose to install a desktop environment like KDE, Gnome, etc.
[09:26] <nightcrow> guys.. can someone please help me
[09:26] <nightcrow> can someone please tell me how i can add a user to use a specific application that can only be run as root
[09:26] <PeoplesAdvocate> EvilResistance, I don't mind leaving it on default since I am the only one on my VPS at this time. But if i get a few friends wanting to host their own I would rather have them jailed to their home directories. If i set it up for the DocumentRoot to be at home directories in a folder (public_html) wont i have a problem with the webserver writing to the directories. (ex. wordpress creating a file)
[09:26] <nightcrow> i have added her to /etc/group
[09:27] <nightcrow> like this:apt-mirror:x:133:ayeletw
[09:27] <nightcrow> but i dont think it is enough
[09:27] <nightcrow> can someone please help
[09:27] <ejv> nightcrow: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FilePermissions
[09:28] <EvilResistance> PeoplesAdvocate, chown the folder so www-data group (or whatever group your webserver runs as, probably www-data) has access, it shouldnt be a problem, if i remember right.
[09:28] <nightcrow> thank you ejv ill have a read through that
[09:28] <oCean> nightcrow: you can temporarily elevate privileges by using 'sudo', this can also be used to delegate certain privileges to a specifc user
[09:28] <oCean> !sudo | nightcrow
[09:29] <ejv> it mentions sudo in the file permissions guide, fyi
[09:29] <ejv> he just needs to read it heh
[09:29] <nightcrow> oCean: i know about sudo, but i dont want to give her that kind of power
[09:29] <nightcrow> she isnt a sudoer
[09:29] <oCean> ejv, nightcrow  file permissions won't help you
[09:29] <astroboy81> Guys, help me. I can't change all value on dconf-editor. Using 11.10
[09:29] <nightcrow> i just want her to be able to use apt-mirror as she likes
[09:29] <oCean> nightcrow: the proper way is to use sudo for that
[09:29] <^Blackflowers^> ejv ah, well as long as it works i'm for trying. gui is a little important to me, the sites i'm hosting don't get much traffic i use them for practice.
[09:29] <nightcrow> oCean: why?
[09:29] <PeoplesAdvocate> ok thanks EvilResistance, gonna go configure it in the home directory then.  :D
[09:29] <nightcrow> oCean: but if i give her sudo, then she can do whatever she wants
[09:30] <oCean> nightcrow: you don't need to give her access to all commands, just configure sudo so that she can execute the command you want
[09:30] <oCean> nightcrow: no
[09:30] <ejv> i won't pretend to understand wth he's doing, but it sounds like a permissions issue heh
[09:30] <nightcrow> oCean: how can i do that?
[09:30] <nightcrow> ejv: i want to give a specific user the ability to use apt-mirror
[09:30] <oCean> nightcrow: read the sudo documentation - you can give access to one single command
[09:30] <nightcrow> ejv: without giving her sudo
[09:30] <nightcrow> ok, oCean ill check it out
[09:30] <hotring> hey Chipzzz you have some custom conky scripts that I can try ?
[09:32] <kalimojo> CRON[13565]: pam_unix(cron:session): session opened for user root by (uid=0)
[09:32] <kalimojo> crontab just hangs
[09:32] <Chipzzz> hotring: no, I just use it as it came out of the box... mostly, i use htop, though
[09:33] <hotring> ohh ok Chipzzz
[09:34] <Chipzzz> hotring: b/t/w htop is also highly recommended as opposed to top
[09:34] <Guest55659> ciao
[09:35] <Guest55659> !list
[09:35] <oCean> nightcrow: sudoers is very powerful, but might seem a little complicated, have a read here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sudoers (also has useful examples)
[09:35] <hotring> i have heard this htop before i dont seem to remember Chipzzz can you refresh me a bit
[09:35] <nightcrow> oCean: i did this: ayeletw ALL=/usr/bin/apt-mirror
[09:35] <nightcrow> but it still doesnt work
[09:35] <nightcrow> oCean: i get this: ouch: cannot touch `/var/spool/apt-mirror/var/apt-mirror.lock': Permission denied
[09:36] <Chipzzz> hotring: it's like conky but runs in a terminal and is nicer to look at
[09:36] <ejv> nightcrow: %mySuperHeroes ALL=(ALL) /usr/bin/apt-mirror * , possibly...
[09:36] <nightcrow> ahh, ok
[09:36] <Chipzzz> hotring: "sudo apt-get install htop" gets it for you
[09:36] <hotring> ohh yes Chipzzz similar to sensors i guess
[09:36] <nightcrow> ejv: ill try that
[09:36] <oCean> nightcrow: be careful when editing sudoers file, always use visudo command
[09:36] <nightcrow> why?
[09:37] <nightcrow> why cant I use pico?
[09:37] <ejv> i use nano personally, im just very careful
[09:37] <oCean> ejv: it's not a matter of trial-and-error
[09:37] <ejv> because you can lock yourself out of root privelege if you botch the file badly
[09:37] <hotring> thanks Chipzzz
[09:37] <oCean> ejv: visudo uses nano too
[09:37] <oCean> (if that is your default editor)
[09:37] <nightcrow> oCean: would this worrk?
[09:37] <nightcrow> ALL=(ALL) /usr/bin/apt-mirror *
[09:37] <nightcrow> ?
[09:38] <Chipzzz> hotring: is isn't eyecandy like sensors, but it's very useful when you have system issues to troubleshoot... glad i could help :-)
[09:38] <Jordan_U> nightcrow: visudo actually uses nano by default on Ubuntu. The name is a bit misleading, it's not an editor so much as a tool for making editing of /etc/sudoers safer, using the preffered editor on the system.
[09:38] <nightcrow> i see
[09:38] <nightcrow> thank you Jordan_U
[09:38] <Jordan_U> nightcrow: You're welcome.
[09:38] <ejv> werd
[09:38] <nightcrow> oCean: Jordan_U would ejv's command work?
[09:38] <hotring> ohh
[09:39] <nightcrow> oCean scared me with his "it isnt trial and error" comment :)
[09:39] <ejv> guess i fly by the seat of my pants
[09:39] <astroboy81> Guys, help me. I can't change all value on dconf-editor. I'm using Oneiric. What should I do. Thanx before
[09:39] <ejv> i use the asterisk to denote infinite trailing arguments given to apt-mirror
[09:40] <nightcrow> oCean: ejv: that syntax didnt work
[09:40] <oCean> nightcrow: again, there are very useful examples in https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sudoers, please read it to understand what you are doing (the examples are for the shutdown commands)
[09:40] <nightcrow> ok
[09:40] <nightcrow> ill check it out now
[09:40] <krosswindz> I was wondering if someone can answer my question regarding building python for Hardy
[09:40] <krosswindz> I am trying to compile python 2.6.7
[09:40] <Chipzzz> astroboy81: what are you trying to change?
[09:40] <ejv> like if i were doing mysql, i'd do %mySuperHeroes ALL=(ALL) /usr/bin/service mysql *
[09:40] <ejv> so I could give it restart, stop, etc.
[09:41] <astroboy81> Chipzzz: icon-theme, gtk-theme
[09:41] <krosswindz> Failed to find the necessary bits to build these modules:
[09:41] <krosswindz> bsddb185           linuxaudiodev      ossaudiodev
[09:41] <krosswindz> sunaudiodev
[09:41] <nightcrow> thank you all
[09:41] <krosswindz> I was wondering what additional dependency I need to install to get rid of missing bits for linuxaudiodev and ossaudiodev
[09:42] <ejv> nightcrow: what worked for you?
[09:42] <Chipzzz> astroboy81: try ccsm
[09:42] <astroboy81> Chipzzz: but I realize that I can't change all values :(
[09:42] <nightcrow> ejv: nothing yet
[09:42] <nightcrow> :)
[09:42] <nightcrow> still reading and testing
[09:42] <astroboy81> Chipzzz: I'll try using CCSM
[09:42] <Chipzzz> astroboy81: that should work
[09:44] <ejv> according to the docs, they are quite fond of aliases, so you could create a Cmnd_Alis called APTMIRROR_CMDS = /path/to/apt-mirror, then $GRP_OR_USERNAME ALL=(ALL) APTMIRROR_CMDS
[09:44] <CyFus> hi, can someone tell me the proper syntax for initramfs-tools's resume?
[09:44] <CyFus> im missing the line from my file so i cant hibernate
[09:45] <ejv> s/Cmnd_Alis/Cmnd_Alias/
[09:45] <PeoplesAdvocate> I just installed htop! Looks...pleasing. LOL
[09:46] <zul0> anyone know what is happening with my firestarter blocked connections? i have got a lot of connections from unknown host
[09:46] <Chipzzz> PeoplesAdvocate: much better than top :-)
[09:46] <ejv> welcome to 2004 PeoplesAdvocate!
[09:46] <PeoplesAdvocate> LOL
[09:46] <PeoplesAdvocate> I dont know why the hell i didnt know about this!
[09:47] <Chipzzz> ;-)
[09:47] <PeoplesAdvocate> what are other recommended tools for command line?
[09:48] <Chipzzz> PeoplesAdvocate: what do you want to do?
[09:48] <PeoplesAdvocate> mainly targeted at server monitoring and maintenance
[09:48] <Dr_willis> tools to do what?
[09:48] <Dr_willis> maintance is a rather broad topic. :)
[09:48] <Chipzzz> monitoring as well
[09:48] <ejv> rrdtool, nagios, etc.
[09:49] <Dr_willis> Theres some hearbeat and other 'is the server up' type tools in the repos
[09:49] <Dr_willis> 'ssh' :)  the wonder tool.
[09:49] <Chipzzz> zenmap to analyze the network
[09:49] <Chipzzz> (nmap for command line)
[09:49] <PeoplesAdvocate> Lets start with monitoring! intrusion dectection, stuff like that
[09:49] <PeoplesAdvocate> i know nmap
[09:50] <ejv> IDS, tripwire.
[09:50] <oCean> nightcrow: found it?
[09:50] <Chipzzz> wireshark to analyze traffic
[09:50] <nightcrow> oCean: not yet :)
[09:50] <nightcrow> oCean: i got a phone call so had to stop for a moment
[09:51] <ejv> i gave you enough examples nightcrow, what's the hold up ha
[09:51] <nightcrow> ill get back to it in 5
[09:51] <nightcrow> ejv: hehehe true :)
[09:51] <oCean> nightcrow: oh ok.
[09:51] <nightcrow> i actually have done : ayeletw ALL=(ALL) ALL
[09:51] <nightcrow> but THAT didnt even work
[09:51] <nightcrow> so im assuming there is something worse going on here :)
[09:51] <pnorman> I'm having a random hang that I can track down the cause of, and I'm not seeing anything in /var/log that indicates the cause. Is there a way to step up the amount of logging done?
[09:51] <ejv> it's helpful if your users are in the proper groups
[09:52] <nightcrow> ejv: but if i were to use this: ayeletw ALL=(ALL) ALL i wouldnt need to put her in any group
[09:52] <nightcrow> since i am refering straight to her username
[09:52] <ejv> ah ayeletw is a user, not a group huh, in that case, yea, it should work
[09:53] <nightcrow> ejv: yes she is a user
[09:53] <Dr_willis> pnorman:  what kind of 'hang'
[09:54] <pnorman> Dr_willis: It stops responding and the power and reset buttons on the front of the case don't work
[09:54] <Seryth> Do I put an irssi config file in .irssi?
[09:54] <oCean> nightcrow: the actual command has to be started with 'sudo'..  so  sudo apt-mirror  for example
[09:54] <Dr_willis> pnorman:  You have done a memtest on the system? Its a nasty crash that locks up the system that badly.
[09:54] <ejv> Seryth: when you initialize irssi, it will automagically create an ~/.irssi/config file
[09:55] <Seryth> ejv: Okay, cool. I've not used irssi for a long time, and I just found a config that looks pretty nice
[09:55] <oCean> nightcrow: anyway, ejv's examples are close, so I'll paste you my example: http://paste.ubuntu.com/838828/  (I added the first and third definition)
[09:55] <pnorman> Dr_willis: Haven't done one for awhile.
[09:55] <nightcrow> oCean: checking
[09:56] <pnorman> Dr_willis: Any way to run a memtest without heading over to the machine?
[09:56] <Dr_willis> pnorman:  also if the system hangs after some time, it could be a sign of overheating. or needing a cleaning.
[09:56] <Chipzzz> pnorman: do you think you might have hardware problems?
[09:56] <angel282> Hello can someone recommend me on good free control panel? (in the past I've purchased some server from Godaddy that came with "simple control panel" from this panel I could add domains/ create ftp accounts etc.. anything similar?)
[09:56] <Dr_willis> pnorman:  not that i know of.
[09:56] <nightcrow> oCean: whats the %test
[09:56] <Dr_willis> !ebox | angel282
[09:56] <pnorman> Chipzzz: I can't rule it out
[09:56] <ejv> nightcrow, what ocean posted is basically what i had, but he put your user into a group called %test, so put your user in there
[09:56] <oCean> nightcrow: everyone in group test
[09:56] <nightcrow> oCean: i see
[09:56] <oCean> correct
[09:56] <nightcrow> oCean: so i can replace that with ayeletw
[09:56] <oCean> nightcrow: yes
[09:56] <nightcrow> ie. the name of the user
[09:57] <oCean> nightcrow: that's also possible
[09:57] <nightcrow> perfect! thank you so much!
[09:57] <oCean> nightcrow: but remember, the user still has to start the command with  sudo
[09:57] <Chipzzz> pnorman: I think Dr_Willis is on to something about the potential for a heat problem
[09:57] <nightcrow> and she still has to start with sudo - gotcha!
[09:57] <nightcrow> thank you so much guys
[09:57] <ejv> did it work nightcrow ?
[09:57] <nightcrow> i would be lost without all of you!
[09:57] <nightcrow> ejv: testing now
[09:57] <nightcrow> sec
[09:57] <FloodBot1> nightcrow: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[09:57] <ejv> don't thank until you tell us it works
[09:57] <ejv> ha
[09:58] <astroboy81> Chipzzz: still unsolved. I just installed CCSM and run dconf-editor again but still can't change anything
[09:58] <pnorman> Munin isn't showing any temperatures which have exceeded 30 degrees in the last week
[09:58] <Chipzzz> pnorman: you can monitor cpu temp without visiting the machine
[09:58] <ejv> pnorman: it's a trap! don't go outside!
[09:58] <Chipzzz> astroboy81: maybe your video modes don't support the changes you're trying to make?
[09:59] <nightcrow> oooops didnt mean to flood. oCean: what is this: Cmnd_Alias
[09:59] <zul0> anyone know why i have got a lot of connections from this host 107.21.249.146:55XXX?
[09:59] <pnorman> I doubt it's heat - it's pretty clean, it's a big case, and it has an excessive number of fast fans
[09:59] <nightcrow> is that an actual command, or did you decide to use that string?
[09:59] <ejv> nightcrow: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sudoers#Command_Aliases
[09:59] <oCean> nightcrow: it is a collection of commands, see the 2nd line in my paste
[09:59] <Chipzzz> pnorman: that rules out the #1 suspect :-(
[10:00] <nightcrow> i see
[10:00] <nightcrow> gotcha
[10:00] <ejv> nightcrow: APT_CMDS references Cmnd_Alias APT_CMDS, you need both lines
[10:01] <astroboy81> Chipzzz: but I can't change all field on org.gnome.desktop.interface, even I can't unthick all checkbox
[10:01] <nightcrow> ejv: excellent! I was just wondering if Cmnd_Alias is a specific syntax or whether I could have used any word there
[10:01] <nightcrow> ie. testing_Alias APT_CMDS = /usr/bin/apt-get, /usr/bin/apt-mirror
[10:02] <nightcrow> oCean: it worked! thank you!
[10:02] <nightcrow> :|)
[10:03] <Chipzzz> astroboy81: try "ls ~/.dbus/session-bus" and see how many files there are
[10:03] <pnorman> I'll run a memtest overnight, hope that it turns up something since memory problems are cheap and easy to fix
[10:04] <astroboy81> Chipzzz: there are 4 files
[10:04] <ejv> cheap yes, easy to fix? not quite, it can be a real execise in patience narrowing down a bad slot or bad stick
[10:04] <ejv> s/execise/exercise/
[10:04] <Chipzzz> astroboy81: hmmm... anyone else logged in?
[10:04] <pnorman> ejv: buy new ram, test. use replacement cpu, test
[10:04] <David-Id-1> hi all
[10:05] <astroboy81> Chipzzz: No, I just restarting the  machine
[10:06] <ejv> personally, in all my years, i've never known a cpu to be bad in any of my batches, or more importantly to contribute to instability, it's always been the more complex or volatile components like the mobo, ram, etc.
[10:06] <Chipzzz> astroboy81: i don't think that's causing your problem but you should get rid of all but the most recent file in that directory when you get a chance
[10:06] <skilz> How to install ati drivers
[10:07] <astroboy81> Chipzzz: after that should I reboot?
[10:08] <Chipzzz> astroboy81: yes
[10:09] <overclucker> nothing worse than a bad ticker
[10:09] <astroboy81> Chipzzz: ok, already deleted all but the recent. now I rebooting. Hope this work :)
[10:10] <iena_chase_da_ma> hi pepole
[10:12] <pnorman> ejv: It's an AMD Phenom II so the memory controller is on the CPU, so it's possible for a failed memtest to be caused by the CPU - in fact, I've seen that happen
[10:19] <greenit> i have a problem with flash... i can't click anything in the properties... any1 knows how to solve this?
[10:26] <zeozan> Hello :D
[10:26] <aleena> hello
[10:26] <zeozan> what the latest gnome 3 version ?
[10:27] <pnorman_> Well, running memtest overnight, we'll see if it finds anything
[10:29] <MrMist1> What's the best way of running "cron-like" tasks in ubuntu? I know how to set up Cron, but it doesn't seem like it's being used bu default by the system
[10:29] <zeozan> and i want to install gnome 3.3.5 ?
[10:29] <llutz> MrMist1: it is used by default
[10:30] <MrMist1> llutz: so how come crontab -l doesn't reveal anything when running as root?
[10:30] <llutz> MrMist1: that what's /etc/crontab for
[10:30] <zeozan> no one can help me ?
[10:30] <ikonia> zeozan: is there a package for gnome 3.3.5 ?
[10:30] <zeozan> yeah i think
[10:30] <ikonia> zeozan: where is it ?
[10:30] <zeozan> ok i will get it wait
[10:31] <MrMist1> llutz: Hmm... i thought I was supposed to run crontab -e to edit crontab?
[10:31] <aleena> i just wanted to ask but still searching for solution #)
[10:31] <llutz> MrMist1: since root-account is disabled in *buntu, it makes no sense
[10:31] <zeozan> this is gnome 3.3.5
[10:31] <zeozan> http://ftp.gnome.org/pub/GNOME/sources/gnome-shell/3.3/gnome-shell-3.3.5.tar.xz
[10:31] <llutz> MrMist1: as user, "crontab -e" works fine
[10:31] <ikonia> zeozan: that is a tar file - not a package
[10:31] <MrMist1> llutz: It's not disabled?? sudo su root
[10:31] <Chipzzz> MrMist1: use the crontab commands to create the jobs you want and /etc/crontab should be created
[10:31] <ikonia> zeozan: you need an ubuntu (deb) package
[10:32] <zeozan> ok what can i do ?
[10:32] <llutz> MrMist1: no recommended and not supported here
[10:32] <llutz> MrMist1: if you need a root-shell, use "sudo -i"
[10:32] <ikonia> zeozan: wait for the distribution to offer an upgrade package
[10:32] <zeozan> okay
[10:32] <zeozan> thanx
[10:34] <rymate1234> llutz: another way to get a root shell is sudo bah
[10:34] <rymate1234> *sudo bash
[10:34] <llutz> rymate1234: there are million ways to get a root shell, sudo -i   is the recommended one at *buntu
[10:34] <llutz> !wfm | rymate1234
[10:36] <MrMist1> llutz: sudo -i? Never used that one... care to explain the difference?
[10:37] <llutz> MrMist1: read "man sudo"
[10:37] <rymate1234> gives the same result
[10:37] <rymate1234> but sudo bash keeps you in the directory you were in
[10:37] <llutz> MrMist1: it just makes sure you get a proper env similar to a root-login shell
[10:37] <popey> rymate1234: sudo -s  # is the way to do that ☺
[10:37] <Chipzzz> MrMist1: there is no 'root' user in ubuntu and sudo -i compensates for the differences between ubuntu & the more standard configuration
[10:37] <aleena> so i desperately tried to fix the problem that I cannot load ubuntu , it comes till grub and then comes up with error, something with busybox
[10:38] <Rurd2di> aleena: we need more info then tha to help
[10:39] <satty> i am not able to use the ubuntu in full fledged way
[10:39] <MrMist1> llutz: Chipzzz: Ah... thanks. But back to the cron question.. I start by creating a crontab as a user? Say I'd like to run a task every 10 minutes..
[10:39] <astroboy81> Chipzzz: it doesn't work
[10:39] <llutz> MrMist1: crontab -e
[10:40] <Chipzzz> astroboy81: Whew!... you scared me when you disappeared for such a long time!
[10:40] <llutz> MrMist1: as "user"
[10:40] <satty> touchpad not work as it should :O
[10:40] <Chipzzz> astroboy81: how are you trying to change the themes?... what program are you using?
[10:41] <MrMist1> llutz: but it's a server doing something like dyndns... do I create a user for just this task?
[10:41] <aleena> yes  i know so i could start up from the cd, i cannot mount the sda1 which is shown as ext4 filesystem
[10:41] <MrMist1> llutz: doesn't seem right running this task as my regular user
[10:41] <ikonia> MrMist1: then use a root crontab
[10:41] <ikonia> MrMist1: can't understand why you are finding this a difficult concept
[10:41] <astroboy81> Chipzzz: i used to use gnome-tweak-tool
[10:42] <Chipzzz> astroboy81: from a terminal window?
[10:42] <MrMist1> ikonia: I'm not finding this difficult... I'm just trying to use the "best practice" here..
[10:43] <astroboy81> Chipzzz: from menu or gnome-do
[10:43] <ikonia> MrMist1: you use the account with the minimial permissions needed to get the job done
[10:43] <ikonia> MrMist1: that is the best practice
[10:43] <Chipzzz> astroboy81: try running it from a terminal so you can see what errors it throws
[10:45] <astroboy81> Chipzzz: yes, there are some error msg. This appeared on first line, CRITICAL: Error parsing schema org.gnome.shell (/usr/share/glib-2.0/schemas/org.gnome.shell.gschema.xml)
[10:45] <piomic> Hi, after instaltion command-line system(alternate)12.04 when i starting graphic crashes, but when i use rescue versionfrom grub all work how to fix nomal mode??
[10:45] <Chipzzz> astroboy81: that would probably explain the problem
[10:47] <astroboy81> Chipzzz: uh, yes. but how? I tried to googling...
[10:47] <piomic> anybody can help how to check where is the problem ??
[10:48] <Chipzzz> astroboy81: b/t/w do you have gnome compatability turned on in ccsm?
[10:48] <trijntje> Hi all, I'm trying to set up ubuntu one with encfs. I wanted to use libpam-encfs to automatically unlock the encrypted files on login. However, it does not unlock the files on login, but instead unlocks the first time I use 'sudo'. Could this be due to the recent switch to lightdm?
[10:49] <astroboy81> Chipzzz: yes, the checkbox has thicked by default
[10:49] <rwq> hello helpers
[10:49] <trijntje> hi rwq
[10:50] <sda> hi all, I have an Broadcom Corporation BCM43225 802.11b/g/n (rev 01) with kernel firmware, it search only N wireless it seems unable to find my wifi G AP
[10:50] <rwq> im trying to install my hp printer, but the auto-stuff that runs from hp has a broken pgp sig
[10:50] <rwq> pretty wierd
[10:51] <Chipzzz> astroboy81: what version of ubuntu are you running, again?
[10:51] <MonkeyDust> !bcm | sda start here
[10:52] <Guest84755> dsfasdf
[10:52] <rwq> i just find it amusing that now that the printer stuff comes from HP itself it works a lot less good :D
[10:52] <astroboy81> Chipzzz: oneiric
[10:52] <rwq> it used to be  "plug in "     *WORKS*
[10:52] <aleena> sorry so the problem is I received the following error > Error mounting: mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/sda1,
[10:52] <aleena>        missing codepage or helper program, or other error
[10:52] <aleena>        In some cases useful info is found in syslog - try    dmesg | tail  or so
[10:52] <piomic> how to change graphic mode to vga ??? from console
[10:53] <rwq> piomic, ctrl-alt f6  ?
[10:53] <aleena> but cannot find out how to resolve it
[10:53] <Chipzzz> astroboy81: i think the problem is that unity is managing your desktop so the gnome tweaks are overridden
[10:54] <piomic> hmm but i have installed only fresh system with command-line
[10:54] <greenit> i have a problem with flash... i can't click anything in the properties... any1 knows how to solve this?
[10:54] <piomic> and i can see antyhing after start system in grub
[10:54] <astroboy81> Chipzzz: if so, what should I do?
[10:55] <Chipzzz> astroboy81: you may be limited to the tweaks available from ccsm
[10:55]  * Schrodinger`Cat 
[10:56] <alishah> hi, i accendently disconnected my computer's power cord .. when i restarted the computer i constantly get 'uncompression error -- System halted' error at startup
[10:56] <astroboy81> Chipzzz: maybe you right. I can't find menu to change theme or icon in CCSM
[10:56] <alishah> sometimes i get GRUB menu and an option to boot previous version of linux i tried em but i get the same error.
[10:57] <Dr_willis> greenit:  ive seen similer issues mentioned in the past. Youmay want to check askubuntu.com or the forums  for any work arounds. I recall one being holding down the right  mouse button whils you clickon the settings/buttons..  (no idea if that still works)
[10:58] <Dr_willis> alishah:  you may want to boot a live cd and do a filesystemcheck.  do you recall what thepc was doing when you unplugged it?
[10:58] <Dr_willis> if you only sometimes get a grub menu. youmay want to reinstall grub. and perhaps the kernel.  It almost sounds like it was updateing the kernel/system when you unplugged it
[10:58] <astroboy81> Chipzzz: could you find the menu to change theme or icon on your CCSM?
[10:59] <Chipzzz> astroboy81: there is also gnome-control-center, which is installed by default in oneiric and allows some changes, but not nearly as many as gnome-tweak-tool
[10:59] <Chipzzz> astroboy81: gnome-tweak-tool has it
[11:00] <Chipzzz> astroboy81: sorry, i mean gnome-control-center has it
[11:04] <astroboy81> Chipzzz: only window theme can change by gnome-control-center, but I need to change gtk theme and icon theme as well
[11:05] <MonkeyDust> astroboy81  try gnome-tweak-tool
[11:05] <Chipzzz> lol... that's where the whole discussion started
[11:05] <MonkeyDust> just entered :)
[11:05] <sda> MonkeyDust,  they start work again now :D I have no idea why because i didn't do anything! :D
[11:06] <Chipzzz> astroboy81: there's "gtk-chtheme", which may work for you
[11:07] <astroboy81> MonkeyDust: I tried using gnome-tweak-tool and ubuntu tweak. I can only change window theme but not gtk theme and icon theme
[11:07] <trijntje> I'm trying to set up ubuntu one with encfs. I wanted to use libpam-encfs to automatically unlock the encrypted files on login. However, it does not unlock the files on login, but instead unlocks the first time I use 'sudo'. How can I fix this?
[11:07] <MonkeyDust> !info encfs
[11:10] <johnson12> Hello everyone, just installed 11.10 on a G33 graphics chipset box. Max screen resolution is 1024 x 786. Display unknown. I added a new mode using xandr and can change to 1280 x 786, but the screen offset is more to the left and bottom.
[11:10] <johnson12> Any pointers?
[11:11] <Abooda> Greetings to all
[11:11] <aleena> hi
[11:11] <trijntje> MonkeyDust: can you help me?
[11:11] <astroboy81> Chipzzz: I use gnome 3 and using gtk-chtheme can't change icon
[11:11] <MonkeyDust> trijntje  with what exactly?
[11:12] <Rurd2di> johnson12: tried adjustin on the monitor itself?
[11:12] <aleena> i do not know whether you saw what i wrote above regarding my problem
[11:12] <trijntje> MonkeyDust: with the question I asked just before you did !info encfs
[11:12] <Rurd2di> aleena?
[11:13] <Rurd2di> talkin to me or MonkeyDust ?
[11:13] <aleena> anyone who could help
[11:13] <MonkeyDust> trijntje  no, i'm not familiar with it -- i didnt see you changed your nick
[11:13] <johnson12> Rurd2di: One sec, let me del and re-add the mode.
[11:14] <trijntje> MonkeyDust: ok, never mind then. I did not change nick btw
[11:14] <Rurd2di> aleena
[11:14] <aleena> Error mounting: mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/sda1,
[11:14] <aleena>         missing codepage or helper program, or other error  In some cases useful info is found in syslog - try  dmesg | tail  or so
[11:14] <aleena> this was it
[11:14] <lucidmadman> any advice on what file system to use for a home server to be accessed by lots of os's?
[11:15] <Rurd2di> lucidmadman ext4 is fine
[11:15] <Rurd2di> works with samba shares fine here
[11:16] <Rurd2di> aleena done a disk check
[11:16] <johnson12> Rurd2di: Hmm....xrandr --newmode <output from cvt> causes: X Error of failed request:  BadName (named color or font does not exist)   Major opcode of failed request:  149 (RANDR)   Minor opcode of failed request:  16 (RRCreateMode)   Serial number of failed request:  23   Current serial number in output stream:  23
[11:16] <lucidmadman> Rurd2di: niec one
[11:16] <lucidmadman> *nice
[11:16] <Rurd2di> what its sayin it cant mount it at boot as its got an issue
[11:17] <Rurd2di> i share with my solo window boxen here and other servers
[11:17] <Rurd2di> lucidmadman no issues
[11:17] <html_5> how do i set up openvpn server?
[11:17] <astroboy81> Chipzzz: are you still online?
[11:18] <Rurd2di> johnson12: 0_0
[11:18] <Rurd2di> how'd u do that?
[11:18] <aleena> tried to make it, but got this messager
[11:19] <lucidmadman> Rurd2di:  so it would be <sudo mksf -t ext4 /dev/sda1> correct?
[11:19] <bananstol> html_5: there are instructions on the openvpn site. did you follow them?
[11:20] <lucidmadman> *mkfs
[11:21] <robin0800> lucidmadman: old versions of windows can't read ext4
[11:21] <Philpass> is there any easy way to use a usb dsl modem with ubuntu ?
[11:21] <Philpass> why is it not auto detect ?
[11:22] <kekko> ciao
[11:22] <MonkeyDust> list
[11:22] <kekko> !list
[11:22] <aleena> only as i opened up gparted and there it showed the partition for the partition /dev/sda1 but there is an exclamation mark next to it
[11:22] <MonkeyDust> :)
[11:22] <oCean> MonkeyDust: please don't..
[11:22] <Rurd2di> unsure lucidmadman its been awhile
[11:23] <Rurd2di> lol
[11:23] <Ashii> .
[11:23] <yeola> i am here....
[11:23] <aleena> then tried to perform check and repair operation and then it gave this error that dumpe2fs attempt to read block from filesystem resulted in short read while trying to open /dev/sda1
[11:23] <lucidmadman> do I need to unmount the drive before I can format it?
[11:24] <lucidmadman> I was halfway througha setup and had a change of heart
[11:24] <Rurd2di> yeah\
[11:24] <lucidmadman> how?
[11:24] <Rurd2di> best to unmount
[11:24] <yeola> ubuntu is ubuntu
[11:26] <Rurd2di> lucidmadman: unmount /dev/sda1
[11:26] <Rurd2di> or whaterver drive is called
[11:26] <Rurd2di> :P
[11:26] <Philpass> is there any easy way to use a usb dsl modem with ubuntu ?
[11:26] <Aerosonic> Hey, guys. I need to print a photo ID badge with an RFID chip inside. Any websites you're familiar with?
[11:26] <Aerosonic> I have all the data required to encode into the chip, I just need to find a website that does that.
[11:27] <Rurd2di> aleena:i cant help with that , im unsure how to fix now
[11:27] <Rurd2di> sorry bud
[11:27] <ShiroiKage> Hi,have problem with WLAN: "Firmware missing" , what does it mean,and how to solve this problem?
[11:27] <aleena> i see, than also searching further
[11:28] <Rurd2di> sorry mate
[11:28] <Rurd2di> lucidmadman: howsit goin?
[11:28] <Rurd2di> workin?
[11:28] <lucidmadman> having a bit of trouble
[11:29] <Rurd2di> wont unmount\
[11:29] <lucidmadman> unmount doesn't seem to work
[11:29] <Rurd2di> ?
[11:29] <Rurd2di> *?
[11:29] <lucidmadman> command not found
[11:29] <lucidmadman> trying again
[11:29] <llutz> lucidmadman: "umount" not "unm"
[11:29] <Rurd2di> unmount works for me
[11:29] <Rurd2di> in ubuntu 11.10
[11:29] <lucidmadman> ahahh
[11:30] <CharminTheMoose> I used an ubuntu 2.6.3-generic config file as the basis for compiling a stock (but with aufs patched) 2.6.39 kernel, which should work fine, but the modules when built and installed come out as 1.5 gigs, whereas the ubuntu ones are only 100 megs give or take.. Am I including a bunch of debugging symbols or something crazy?
[11:30] <Rurd2di> what version u runnnin?
[11:30] <lucidmadman> 11.10
[11:30] <lucidmadman> server
[11:30] <lucidmadman> have dived in at deep end
[11:30] <lucidmadman> first time
[11:30] <Rurd2di> im running 11.10 desktop
[11:30] <Rurd2di> and it works
[11:31] <lucidmadman> yeah was my sausage fingers
[11:31] <llutz> Rurd2di: ls -l $(which unmount)
[11:31] <kish> hii
[11:31] <Rurd2di> although i cant unmount as nothing there'
[11:31] <lucidmadman> got it to work
[11:31] <lucidmadman> kinda
[11:31] <Rurd2di> lucidmadman: ls -l $(which unmount)
[11:31] <ShiroiKage> Hi,have problem with WLAN: "Firmware missing" , what does it mean,and how to solve this problem?
[11:32] <Rurd2di> ShiroiKage: be paitent bud, somebody will help soon
[11:32] <llutz> Rurd2di: what does it give back?
[11:32] <Rurd2di> im tryin to help lucidmadman
[11:32] <llutz> Rurd2di: and telling him"unmount" would work, which is most likely wrong
[11:33] <lucidmadman> you are helping Rurd2di
[11:33] <lucidmadman> :)
[11:33] <llutz> Rurd2di: the command  to unmount is called "umount"
[11:33] <Rurd2di> yer
[11:33] <Rurd2di> i told him that
[11:33] <llutz> [12:29:47] <Rurd2di> unmount works for me
[11:33] <Rurd2di> hes just gettin used to ubuntu
[11:33] <lucidmadman> I just read it wrong
[11:33] <Rurd2di> oh ok
[11:33] <Rurd2di> cool
[11:34] <lucidmadman> ok so i did sudo fdisk -l
[11:34] <lucidmadman> and I still have some leftovers from last try
[11:34] <lucidmadman> /dev/mapper/data1
[11:34] <lucidmadman> and
[11:35] <lucidmadman> /dev/mapper/data2
[11:35] <lucidmadman> I need to nuke this thing
[11:35] <lucidmadman> hdd that is
[11:35] <pfifo> lucidmadman, you can simply delete those if its not in use anymore
[11:36] <lucidmadman> sounds like a plan
[11:36] <lucidmadman> they are partitions right?
[11:36] <Rurd2di> lucidmadman: yes
[11:36] <pfifo> not exactly
[11:37] <Rurd2di> oh
[11:37] <pfifo> more like a loop device
[11:37] <lucidmadman> riiiight
[11:38] <Rurd2di> i thought they wer just partions of main disk
[11:38] <html_5> how do i set up openvpn server?
[11:38] <lucidmadman> so if I just want to start again with sda, what's the best way to do it?
[11:38] <Rurd2di> from what lucidmadman is sayin
[11:38] <pfifo> !vpn | html_5
[11:39] <MonkeyDust> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/OpenVPN
[11:41] <Rurd2di> lucidmadman i have to go
[11:42] <Rurd2di> bed time
[11:42] <Rurd2di> almost 1am here
[11:42] <Rurd2di> and work tomorrow
[11:42] <Rurd2di> good luck
[11:42] <lucidmadman> thanks for your help
[11:42] <Rurd2di> np
[11:42] <FloodBot1> Rurd2di: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[11:42] <Rurd2di> ciao
[11:42] <lucidmadman> cya
[11:42] <B|tchX> D45CK1NG your root account is open
[11:45] <michelem> hello folks. Is there a command-line (e.g. curses) control panel for Ubuntu, where you can set network settings etc without editing config files by hand?
[11:47] <ShiroiKage> Hi,have problem with WLAN: "Firmware missing" , what does it mean,and how to solve this problem?
[11:48] <lucidmadman> having trouble formatting a disk can anyone helop?
[11:48] <damo22> sure
[11:49] <lucidmadman> damo22: thanks
[11:49] <yark> hello
[11:49] <yark> nn
[11:49] <lucidmadman> I have /dev/sda
[11:49] <yark> ok
[11:50] <lucidmadman> I have previously formatted it
[11:50] <damo22> lucid: what are you trying to format and what is the output of sudo fdisk -l
[11:50] <lucidmadman> and added what I thought were two partitions
[11:50] <damo22> lucid: pastebin it
[11:50] <lucidmadman> ok
[11:55] <betaArk> Hi.. question.. do people still use merald? I'm thinking of reinstall with emerald.. but does it get updated sometimes?
[11:56] <betaArk> *emerald
[11:56] <jrib> !emerald | betaArk
[11:59] <BlessJah> where can i find older version of package from repo?
[11:59] <betaArk> ubottu: oke.. so also in a combination with XFCE, you would not recommend emerald anymore?
[11:59] <B|tchX> 271 ppl in kubuntu and do you know why?  b/c kubuntu never has any issues.  Just install and go!
[11:59] <betaArk> lol
[12:00] <betaArk> jrib: oke.. so also in a combination with XFCE, you would not recommend emerald anymore?
[12:00] <jrib> betaArk: I wouldn't recommend it, no
[12:00] <dr--willis> !emerald
[12:00] <B|tchX> !xfce
[12:00] <betaArk> jrib: and compiz?
[12:01] <pfifo> dr--willis, you look different today... new haircut?
[12:01] <B|tchX> betaArk, join #compiz
[12:01] <dr--willis> on my phone
[12:01] <MonkeyDust> betaArk  unity is gnome3 with compiz
[12:02] <betaArk> MonkeyDust: sorry.. forgot about it.. playing with gnome-shell these days.. but really like the days with compiz and emerald.. :(
[12:02] <betaArk> MonkeyDust: *means forgot that Ubuntu still uses compiz :)
[12:02] <mongy> betaArk: I use xfce, compiz and emerald with no issues
[12:02] <astroboy81> Guys, help me. I can't change all value on dconf-editor. I'm using Oneiric. What should I do. Thanx before
[12:03] <Chipzzz> astroboy81: glad you stopped by... i found the answer
[12:03] <Chipzzz> astroboy81: gtk-chtheme
[12:03] <betaArk> mongy: are there still updated themes? some emerald themes that I have found where from 2010?
[12:04] <astroboy81> Chipzzz: oh, I thought you were offline. Glad to see you...what is the answer :)
[12:04] <Chipzzz> astroboy81: "gtk-chtheme"
[12:04] <mongy> betaArk: I only use 1, bit old but it's just a theme and serves me
[12:04] <Chipzzz> astroboy81: sudo apt-get it and it'll do what you want
[12:05] <Chipzzz> astroboy81: (b/t/w - you were right... i was gone for a while)
[12:06] <astroboy81> Chipzzz: mm. nope I'd tried using gtk-chtheme but problem still exist
[12:06] <Chipzzz> astroboy81: strange... i just installed it & it worked for me... did you run it from the command line to see what errors it threw?
[12:08] <astroboy81> Chipzzz: theme selector is worked but how to change icon?
[12:08] <lucidmadman> folks what web based manager is best to use on 11.10 server?
[12:08] <dr--willis> !ebox
[12:08] <damo22> lucidmadman: did you fix your hdd?
[12:09] <Chipzzz> astroboy81: oh... doesn't change icons, just themes and fonts... icon sets are built into theme
[12:09] <dr--willis> they are?
[12:09] <lucidmadman> damo22: not yet
[12:09] <dr--willis> i use gnome.tweqk.tool
[12:10] <dr--willis> or ubuntu.tweak
[12:10] <Poindexter_> I am using Virtual Box with an internet connection. How does one set the IP address? Why does it not just see the internet?
[12:10] <lucidmadman> I was going to retrace my steps from last install with webmin but just saw the articlae on support saying it wasn't supported any more
[12:10] <Chipzzz> dr--willis: he tried gnome-tweek-tool & it doesn't change anything
[12:11] <astroboy81> Chipzzz: with gnome-tweak-tool I usually can have separate setting for appearance. So I can use Adwaita with Faenza or AwOken
[12:11] <dr--willis> Poindexter_: it does work that way here.
[12:11] <damo22> lucidmadman: youre not making any sense what are you trying to achieve?
[12:11] <Chipzzz> astroboy81: maybe so
[12:12] <Poindexter_> Dr-Willis with Windows on the Virtual Box I use  ipconfig /release     ipconfig /renew and that seems to work but with Ubuntu it does not see the internet.
[12:12] <lucidmadman> damo22: trying to format a drive
[12:12] <lucidmadman> keeps saying that the file system is in use
[12:12] <damo22> lucidmadman: that is easy just provide me with the output of sudo fdisk -l
[12:13] <astroboy81> Chipzzz: this make me desperade :(
[12:13] <Chipzzz> lucidmadman: unmount it
[12:13] <lucidmadman> sorry I got stuck on the pastebin thing, didn't want to waste your time explaining that
[12:14] <damo22> lucidmadman: if you switch to root user with sudo su, you can pipe the output of any command to |pastebinit
[12:14] <slackin_> A question of opinion: When compiling a kernel for a static machine setup, nothing will ever change, is it better to make drivers n such modules or built in? Are there other advantages over one another other than size?
[12:15] <Chipzzz> astroboy81: it's a very stubborn problem, i have to give it that ;-)
[12:15] <dr--willis> sudo fdisk -l | pastebinit       should work
[12:15] <damo22> dr--willis: no it doesnt let you use sudo to pipe
[12:16] <astroboy81> Chipzzz: I tried to use ricotz ppa to install dconf-editor, how you think?
[12:16] <dr--willis> i recall it workibg for me in the past
[12:16] <lucidmadman> ok
[12:16] <damo22> dr--willis: you need to use tee to make that work
[12:16] <lucidmadman> I did the sudo fdisk -l then pastebinit
[12:16] <lucidmadman> before I saw damo22
[12:16] <dr--willis> its worked for me befor
[12:17] <lucidmadman> now it's just sitting there
[12:17] <lucidmadman> hasnn't returned to the cmd line
[12:17] <damo22> lucidmadman: ctrl c
[12:17] <damo22> lucidmadman: you cant run them separately
[12:17] <lucidmadman> ok sweet
[12:18] <johnson19> Hi, just installed 10.11 on a GM33 integrated box. Display shows up as unknown. Was stuck in 1024 x 786 resolution. Used xrandr to add new mode for 1280 x 1024. Resolution changes fine, but I have black bars down the side of my screen that I can't get rid of, even using the monitor settings. Any ideas?
[12:18] <MonkeyDust> lucidmadman  or open a new tab in terminal, so you can switch
[12:18] <llutz> damo22:  pipes work with sudo , echo blah > foo    won't
[12:18] <lucidmadman> so the syntax is: sudo su fdisk -l?
[12:18] <MonkeyDust> sudo fdisk -l
[12:18] <dr--willis> dont use sudo su. ;)
[12:18] <damo22> lucidmadman: sudo fdisk -l | pastebinit
[12:18] <spawnguz> ciao
[12:20] <spawnguz> 2
[12:20] <lucidmadman> what's the char between the fdisk command and pastebinit?
[12:21] <llutz> lucidmadman: a pipe |
[12:21] <Chipzzz> lucidmadman: (shifted backslash)
[12:21] <dr--willis> linux lets you use all your jeys...
[12:21] <dr--willis> keys
[12:22] <damo22> the pipe is the most useful character in linux
[12:22] <kalimojo> there is no command called pastebinit
[12:22] <lucidmadman> http://paste.ubuntu.com/838940
[12:22] <dr--willis> ctrl-g
[12:22] <lucidmadman> you guys rock
[12:22] <dr--willis> so.. install it.
[12:23] <kalimojo> ok
[12:23] <Chipzzz> kalimojo: "sudo apt-get install pastebinit"
[12:23] <dr--willis> !info pastebinit
[12:24] <greenhost> who have done ubuntu mail server for windows clients?
[12:24] <damo22> lucidmadman: you have a mixture of lvm and regular partitions
[12:25] <llutz> greenhost: pop3/imap or exchange?
[12:25] <astroboy81> Chipzzz: Nearly frustated, using ricotz ppa to upgrade dconf-editor still can't solve my problem
[12:25] <kalimojo> pastebinit is great
[12:25] <damo22> lucidmadman: which one are you trying to format?
[12:25] <johnson19> Hi, just installed 10.11 on a GM33 integrated box. Display shows up as unknown. Was stuck in 1024 x 786 resolution. Used xrandr to add new mode for 1280 x 1024. Resolution changes fine, but I have black bars down the side of my screen that I can't get rid of, even using the monitor settings. Any ideas?
[12:25] <lucidmadman> right, so I want to redo /dev/sda
[12:25] <lucidmadman> into one drive
[12:26] <html_5> how do i set up openvpn
[12:26] <dr--willis> !openvpn
[12:26] <MonkeyDust> html_5  start here https://help.ubuntu.com/community/OpenVPN
[12:27] <NoetGoed> hi all
[12:28] <astroboy81> Chipzzz: in case you have some bright idea plz drop me email at astroboy81.freebies(at)gmail.com. Thanks for your time
[12:28] <damo22> lucidmadman: it looks like you have deleted the LVM partition group for DataMusic and DataVideo
[12:28] <NoetGoed> total ubuntu noob here. installed it in virtual box. very smooth. but can't get it to full screen. I did install the guest services afai can tell
[12:29] <lucidmadman> damo22: that bad?
[12:29] <damo22> lucidmadman: do you want to lose this data?
[12:29] <lucidmadman> there's nothing there
[12:29] <lucidmadman> leftover from a previous install
[12:29] <Chipzzz> astroboy81: "file types editor" in software center lets you change default icons
[12:29] <damo22> lucidmadman: so data-video and data-music can be deleted?
[12:30] <lucidmadman> yup
[12:30] <MonkeyDust> lucidmadman  sometimes it's better to delete all and start over
[12:30] <damo22> lucidmadman: i would delete all partitions from /dev/sda
[12:31] <usza> huston, we have a problem here http://ovrload.ru/temp/img_1346_4ba849b8c47c82b25fc31a9728d6c729.jpg
[12:31] <lucidmadman> ok how do I do that?
[12:31] <damo22> lucidmadman: could use fdisk or dd
[12:34] <lucidmadman> damo22 I tried deleteing the table and writing a new one but it told me that it failed as the device is busy
[12:34] <astroboy81> Chipzzz: maybe if I can any value on dconf-editor then changing theme or icon on other app like ubuntu-tweak, gnome-tweak-tool won't be a problem too
[12:34] <franzmaulwurf> hi
[12:35] <Chipzzz> astroboy81: did you see the earlier message about "file types editor"?
[12:35] <meet> how do i copy the already installed packages like vlc, etc. and use them in another computer with mint.
[12:35] <lucidmadman> sudo reboot
[12:35] <usza> i'm out of variants, guys, need some help =)
[12:36] <astroboy81> Chipzzz: yes. btw, without an app how can I change theme or icon manually?
[12:36] <kalimojo> i worked with macs and windows for years, wish i hadn't wasted all that time and used linux instead
[12:36] <NoetGoed> anybody knows how to properly setup fullscreen mode in virtual box?
[12:37] <airtonix> meet: aptoncd
[12:37] <meet> NoetGoed: try ctrl+f
[12:37] <meet> thanks airtonix will try it
[12:37] <NoetGoed> sure thing. but the ubuntu window just stays the same size, plus black frame. :S
[12:37] <Chipzzz> astroboy81: i don't really understand the question
[12:37] <MonkeyDust> NoetGoed  i use vbox, click View > Full screen
[12:37] <html_5> MonkeyDust,  that doesnt help
[12:38] <airtonix> meet: http://channikhabra.blogspot.com.au/2011/07/aptoncd-tutorialhow-to-backup-your.html
[12:38] <NoetGoed> html_5 is right. that does not help. seems to be related to the guest additions or whatever that is called in english. I installed those inside in ubuntu (was that wrong?) but no difference.
[12:38] <MonkeyDust> html_5  what doesnt?
[12:39] <NoetGoed> fullscreen view does not work.
[12:39] <MonkeyDust> who's asking about vbox, NoetGoed or html_5 ?
[12:39] <NoetGoed> me
[12:39] <kalimojo> ot: anyone know about surveillance cameras ?
[12:40] <astroboy81> Chipzzz: can I change theme in ubuntu without application like gnome-tweak-tool, ubuntu-tweak, etc?
[12:40] <html_5> MonkeyDust,  that doesnt help, the link .. im trying to set up a vpn service "openvpn "
[12:40] <Chipzzz> astroboy81: like a theme editor?
[12:41] <damo22> lucidmadman: sudo mount |pastebinit
[12:41] <MonkeyDust> NoetGoed  same here, the height is full screen, but the width isnt, it's possible to have win xp in full screen as it should, though
[12:41] <skilz> How to remove unity and have normal gnome?
[12:41] <lucidmadman> damo22: http://paste.ubuntu.com/838959
[12:42] <astroboy81> Chipzzz: Not a theme editor. But, manually make my current switched to another theme
[12:42] <airtonix> astroboy81: dconf-editor
[12:43] <Chipzzz> astroboy81: "system settings"->"appearance", but you knew that...
[12:44] <astroboy81> airtonix: dconf-editor also an application. If you follow my big problem is that I can't change any value on dconf-editor
[12:44] <usza> dudes, i need some help, eded up with kernel panic :/
[12:44] <airtonix> astroboy81: well i can
[12:44] <damo22> lucidmadman: you need to use an LVM tool to delete those lvm partitions
[12:45] <CrazyTB> I have just installed Ubuntu 11 on a drive that already had Windows 7 x64
[12:45] <CrazyTB> and now ubuntu does not show the grub screen
[12:45] <lucidmadman> damo22: easiest via webmin?
[12:45] <CrazyTB> (btw, nvidia card)
[12:45] <astroboy81> airtonix: yeah, some days ago I also could make a change with dconf-editor
[12:46] <astroboy81> Chipzzz: yeah, you mentioned before gnome-control-center that actually also an application
[12:49] <NoetGoed> no one knows? http://cl.ly/2U1E3R1K273T0A1o091y
[12:49] <usza> guys, i really need some help lol
[12:49] <ikonia> NoetGoed: what is the question ?
[12:50] <MonkeyDust> NoetGoed  at least it *finds* the guest additions, here it doesnt
[12:50] <ikonia> usza: people can't help unless you ask a question
[12:50] <kalimojo> when i run fdisk -l i get "Disk /dev/mapper/cryptswap1 doesn't contain a valid partition table"
[12:50] <usza> its not easy to ask it, really, i just ended up with kernel panic
[12:50] <ikonia> kalimojo: 1.) you need to use sudo 2.) its an encypted device
[12:50] <NoetGoed> how to get virtual box with ubuntu full screen. I get full screen. but the size of ubuntu  window is the same. only change is the black frame that (indeed) fills the full screen. but that can't be the concept right?
[12:50] <ikonia> usza: you need to figure out how to ask it
[12:50] <kalimojo> i did use sudo
[12:51] <usza> ikonia, here is what i ended up with http://ovrload.ru/temp/img_1346_4ba849b8c47c82b25fc31a9728d6c729.jpg
[12:51] <ikonia> kalimojo: then when you say what you did, you need to say "I did sudo fdisk -l" not "I did disk -l"
[12:51] <kalimojo> ok ikonia
[12:51] <usza> ikonia, here is what i was doing http://www.oxygenimpaired.com/ubuntu-with-grub2-luks-encrypted-lvm-root-hidden-usb-keyfile
[12:51] <zaur-ibr> hi everybody
[12:51] <ikonia> usza: can you give context, has this ever works
[12:51] <ikonia> usza: oooh, you've been messing around with encyption
[12:51] <zaur-ibr> I've problem with my HP Tp
[12:52] <kalimojo> ikonia: so that is a normal error message ?
[12:52] <zaur-ibr> I've installed ubuntu then uninstalled,but know my Touchpad available memory is 3.99Gb,why?
[12:52] <usza> it looks like problem is not with encryption itself
[12:52] <ikonia> kalimojo: it's not really an error message, the disk is encypted
[12:52] <NoetGoed> did anybody understand my question? should I repeat it?
[12:52] <kalimojo> ikonia : ok
[12:52] <ikonia> usza: the "unsupported optional features" is not a good message
[12:52] <usza> i know that
[12:52] <Chucky_Luciano> hi, im using ubuntu lucid...  and i messed something up, pretty sure it has to do woth compiz because thats the last thing i changed, but anyways i cant seem to move windows around by clicking on the titlebar...  the windows are just stuck in place...  any help w/ this would be much appreciated, thanks in advance  :)
[12:52] <zaur-ibr> can anyone help me?
[12:52] <usza> but if u were looking carefully
[12:53] <usza> its not what caused the panic
[12:53] <MonkeyDust> NoetGoed  better try your luck in #vbox
[12:53] <ikonia> usza: the panic is because the disk can't be mounted cleanly
[12:53] <usza> how u figured that out?
[12:53] <NoetGoed> MonkeyDust thx for the tipp will try.
[12:53] <ikonia> usza: by reading what is on the screen - it's hard to be certain without proper information, but that is how it reads to me
[12:54] <NoetGoed> ah working now. seems I had to restart virtualbox for whatever reasons.
[12:54] <NoetGoed> MonkeyDust so you say you don't even have the guest additions?
[12:54] <MonkeyDust> NoetGoed  don't forget to mention that you're using linux
[12:54] <lavi741> hey.. I'm looking for native speakers of as many languages as possible to translate only 6 strings
[12:54] <usza> ikonia, sdc1 is a device that contains the keyfile, if u was looking carefully, u can notice that it was mounted as ext4 and u probably could guess why it was trying ext2 and ext3 at first
[12:55] <NoetGoed> working fine now for me. full screen scaled correctly and automated. yey :)
[12:55] <usza> root encrypted partition was also mounted, its sda3_crypt
[12:55] <kalimojo> lavi741: my bro can do french
[12:55] <usza> so stop being that dick
[12:55] <ikonia> usza: I can see that
[12:55] <lavi741> kalimojo: I'd love that
[12:55] <NoetGoed> MonkeyDust looks like this in my install: http://cl.ly/3k0J37204141442I0M27
[12:56] <stamina_> hello everyone
[12:56] <Chucky_Luciano> helloooo
[12:56] <zaur-ibr> hello stamina
[12:56] <stamina_> can someone give some ideas for installing  webcam over terminal
[12:56] <stamina_> please
[12:57] <ikonia> !webcam > stamina_
[12:57] <kalimojo> lavi741: dcc problem here, just use a chat window
[12:57] <stamina_> webcam like in camel toe
[12:58] <NoetGoed> firefox is still 10.0 for me. will there be 10.0.1 available? how can I check that?
[12:58] <Kartagis> www.firefox.com
[12:58] <ikonia> NoetGoed: ignore what Kartagis has said
[12:58] <NoetGoed> already done
[12:59] <ikonia> NoetGoed: when ubuntu packages udates, they will be released by update manager
[12:59] <Kartagis> my mic seems to be working, but skype doesn't recognize it at all, how come?
[12:59] <ikonia> NoetGoed: so as updates become available you'll be notified via update manager
[12:59] <NoetGoed> ikonia: where do I find that?
[12:59] <ikonia> NoetGoed: it will pop up on screen when you login saying "ubuntu has 10 updates available for you" or words to that effect
[12:59] <MonkeyDust> NoetGoed  try sudo apt-get update;sudo apt-get upgrade
[13:00] <NoetGoed> any way I can trigger the same via UI?
[13:00] <ikonia> NoetGoed: open the update manager gui
[13:00] <MonkeyDust> try update manager
[13:00] <ikonia> NoetGoed: it will basically run those commands in the background as it opens
[13:01] <NoetGoed> sry, I still don't know where to look. I have "Software-Paketquellen" in the system settings. is that it?
[13:01] <ikonia> NoetGoed: what language is your ubuntu system in ?
[13:01] <MonkeyDust> Quelle = Source
[13:01] <NoetGoed> also I can't copy paste commands from mac os X when I go into virtual box ubuntu :(
[13:01] <stamina_> sudo im going nuts  there is no driver
[13:01] <NoetGoed> german
[13:01] <ikonia> NoetGoed: what version of ubuntu is this ?
[13:01] <stamina_> mine is creative vf0420
[13:01] <NoetGoed> MonkeyDust: that's why I though it's not the same..
[13:02] <NoetGoed> ikonia: 11.10 latest afaik
[13:02] <ikonia> not sure where update manager is located in unity, I'm sure an 11.10 user can point you out though
[13:02] <stamina_> do you command to read my usb  or activate it
[13:02] <stamina_> cause its working on cheese
[13:02] <NoetGoed> ikonia: ok, you are still using an older version?
[13:02] <lucidmadman> damo22: it's worked!
[13:03] <ikonia> NoetGoed: I'm not using ubuntu at the moment
[13:03] <MonkeyDust> NoetGoed  click Dash and type Update Manager
[13:03] <lucidmadman> thanks for your help amigo!
[13:03] <lucidmadman> and everyone else that's helped
[13:03] <NoetGoed> I find ubuntu software-center. that's it?
[13:03] <MonkeyDust> NoetGoed  no, "update"
[13:03] <NoetGoed> ah now i got it. "Aktualisierungsverwaltung" ok thx!
[13:04] <stamina_> is there someone who can help please
[13:04] <NoetGoed> so nothing there. who's responsible for the firefox updates?
[13:04] <ikonia> NoetGoed: the desktop team
[13:04] <lucidmadman> what's the best web based administrator to use?
[13:04] <ikonia> NoetGoed: there will be updates then there are updates "needed"
[13:04] <lucidmadman> for 11.10 server
[13:04] <ikonia> lucidmadman: not using one is the best option
[13:05] <lucidmadman> ikonia: just use ssh?
[13:05] <NoetGoed> so they are on it? hmm, afaik 10.0.1 has some rather important securtiy fixes, no?
[13:05] <MonkeyDust> cynic
[13:05] <NoetGoed> but I'll ignore it for now and be patient :)
[13:05] <kalimojo> how do i know if i can trust a ppa ?
[13:05] <MonkeyDust> kalimojo  not
[13:05] <ikonia> kalimojo: you don't know, that is the massive risk/issue with PPAs
[13:06] <ikonia> kalimojo: my personal research suggests there are VERY few that are safe to use
[13:06] <ikonia> NoetGoed: which security features do you want from 10.0.1
[13:06] <kalimojo> ok
[13:06] <MonkeyDust> a PPA ruined my system, once, I don't use them anymore, since
[13:07] <lucidmadman> Ikonia: thanks
[13:07] <NoetGoed> ikonia: https://www.mozilla.org/security/known-vulnerabilities/firefox.html
[13:07] <NoetGoed> critical, no?
[13:07] <ikonia> NoetGoed: that is 1
[13:08] <Chucky_Luciano> hi guys,,,,,,   i am having a problem, i am unable to move windows around on the desktop, i can minimize, mazimize, etc..  but other than that they are stuck in place..  if anyone has every ecperienced this prob and knows of a solution it would be greatly appreciated as this is mucho frusterating...  thanks in advance, and btw the computer this is happenning on is running ubuntu 10.04 lucid, thanks in advance
[13:08] <lavi741> any French/German/Italian/Chinese/Russian speakers?
[13:08] <ikonia> lavi741: there are french/german/etc ubuntu channels, which one do you want ?
[13:08] <NoetGoed> ok, as I said. I'll ignore and be patient. and correct my self to "… contains a critical security fix"
[13:08] <NoetGoed> german
[13:08] <Chucky_Luciano> alsl alt+f1 and alt+f2 seem not to be working at all either
[13:09] <ikonia> NoetGoed: it doesn't look like a common issue, it actually looks reasonably low risk, although high in effect
[13:09] <lavi741> ikonia: I couldn't find any. actually I'm looking for speakers because I need help translating 6 strings for a gnome shell extension
[13:09] <ikonia> lavi741: #ubuntu-fr #ubuntu-de #ubuntu-ru etc
[13:09] <lavi741> thanks
[13:09] <MonkeyDust> Chucky_Luciano  try alt f2 killall metacity
[13:09] <Chipzzz> lavi741: google translate?
[13:09] <ikonia> lavi741: #ubuntu-it
[13:09] <llutz> lavi741: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/ChannelList
[13:10] <LjL> Chipzzz: not often a good idea for accurate translations
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[13:10] <stamina_> hello help
[13:10] <NoetGoed> do you guys know anything about elemtary os? who's behind it? etc… thoughts? http://elementaryos.org/developer
[13:11] <ikonia> NoetGoed: nothing to do with ubuntu so not valid for this channel,
[13:11] <auronandace> NoetGoed: we only deal with ubuntu here
[13:11] <NoetGoed> wow you are strikt :P
[13:11] <NoetGoed> ok sry.
[13:11] <ikonia> NoetGoed: not a problem
[13:14] <memyself> what's the command to use to find out what my router's ip address ?
[13:14] <stamina_> im here im ubuntu
[13:15] <auronandace> !yay | stamina
[13:15] <stamina_> botto
[13:15] <MonkeyDust> memyself  dig|grep SERVER
[13:15] <stamina_> can you do soemthing for  me
[13:16] <llutz> MonkeyDust: thats still the nameserver which mustn't be router/gateway
[13:16] <bastidrazor> MonkeyDust: that would indicate your dns server which could be different than router ip
[13:17] <MonkeyDust> llutz  correct, you said that earlier
[13:17] <memyself> dig|grep server  ? what to look for ?
[13:18] <drakalen> !pl
[13:18] <stamina_> dobre
[13:18] <MonkeyDust> memyself  SERVER, not server
[13:19] <llutz> memyself: that will show you the address of used nameserver, which could be different from your router/gateway
[13:19] <fluffypony> hi guys - I'm seriously struggling to get PSAD working on 10.04 (with UFW). I've just installed a new minimal installation on a web server, and it's not logging anything. Previously (on 8.04) I configured sysklogd to write to psadfifo, but that no longer seems to be an easy option with rsyslogd?
[13:20] <stamina_> hey
[13:20] <stamina_> im here
[13:20] <memyself> I WANT to access to my router and change the setting
[13:20] <MonkeyDust> dobre, that's croatian
[13:20] <memyself> but i dont know whta's it ip
[13:20] <stamina_> uhh suppose to be polish
[13:20] <llutz> memyself: "ip n s"
[13:20] <stamina_> jak se mach ?
[13:21] <stamina_> am i right ?
[13:21] <ikonia> memyself: your routers documentation should be able to tell you how to work out it's IP and it's default IP range
[13:21] <angel282> Hi, Does someone here have knowledge in the kloxo control panel? (need help)
[13:21] <fluffypony> angel282: I thought kloxo didn't support Ubuntu?
[13:21] <auronandace> memyself: isn't it on the router? something like 192.168.1.1
[13:22] <MonkeyDust> angel282  i read here that kloxo is for redhat and centos
[13:22] <fluffypony> angel282: try Webmin isntead
[13:23] <llutz> !webmin
[13:23] <acicula> !info kloxo
[13:23] <fluffypony> guess you're sh*t out of luck then :-P
[13:23] <memyself> no , i changed it to something weird few years ago
[13:24] <auronandace> !language | fluffypony
[13:24] <memyself> so llutz , ip n s ?
[13:24] <fluffypony> auronandace: thanks
[13:24] <llutz> memyself: "ip n s" or "route -n|grep G"   both will show you your gateways IP
[13:24] <memyself> what's command is that  ?
[13:25] <MonkeyDust> memyself  open your browser and go to 192.168.1.1 which is most probably your router's ip address
[13:25] <fluffypony> llutz: from which version did Webmin stop supporting Ubuntu? their website seems to indicate it is still actively supported: http://www.webmin.com/deb.html
[13:26] <llutz> fluffypony: it mit be supported, but not in debian/*buntu since it might break stuff
[13:26] <memyself> lluts both command fail
[13:26] <greenhost> http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/838994/
[13:26] <fluffypony> llutz: I disagree, from the Webmin site: "Webmin has been tested on all regular Debian releases, Ubuntu Linux, and derivatives like Xandros and APLINUX."
[13:26] <llutz> fluffypony: their point of view
[13:28] <NoetGoed> @all how can I disable the startup sound in 11.10?
[13:28] <llutz> memyself: error?
[13:29] <memyself> it just give me - destination Gateway G.....  title
[13:30] <memyself> is it really that hard to peek into whta's my own router ip in ubuntu ?
[13:30] <scanuks> hello everyone
[13:30] <llutz> memyself: "route -n"   the line starting with 0.0.0.0 then.
[13:30] <MonkeyDust> memyself  try ip n
[13:31] <Steevca> I am having a slow preformance on chrome with java powered games and on some streaming sites but i am able to play hd videos on youtube without a problem?
[13:31] <llutz> !info iproute
[13:31] <Like> Hello
[13:32] <memyself> it shows gateway 0.0.0.0
[13:32] <memyself> ohhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
[13:32] <scanuks> i have a problem , i downloaded a app called 'grandr" its a GUI interface for xrandr , and by mistake i clicked SCREEN OFF , and now i see only a blank screen =\
[13:32] <Like> HI
[13:32] <Like> Русские есть? )
[13:33] <MonkeyDust> !ru| Like
[13:33] <Like> !ru
[13:34] <memyself> brb
[13:34] <hypeBoy> hi, my computer restarted unexpectedly by itself. where has linux logged some information for this unexpected restart. and lately i have also been getting 'uncompression error -- system halted' boot-time error as well.
[13:34] <scanuks> !he | scanuks
[13:35] <nicofs> does anyone have a link to an easy howto on how to create an empty file, mount it and create a filesystem inside?
[13:35] <NoetGoed> @all how can I disable the startup sound in 11.10?
[13:35] <MonkeyDust> nicofs  you can use qemu
[13:36] <MonkeyDust> nicofs  it's with qemu-create https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/QemuEmulator
[13:36] <nicofs> MonkeyDust, I just need 40GB of ext3/4 on an external storage that's formatted as NTFS...
[13:37] <Chipzzz> hypeBoy: you could check /var/log/kern.log, and /var/log/auth.log (to see if anyone logged on who didn't belong there)
[13:37] <lnostdal_> why does installing openjdk7 / jre7 also add the 6 versions and set version 6 as the default (update-alternatives) for 'java' and several other tools (but not javac)? etc. etc.? ..   this seems just random and silly
[13:38] <Like> !exit
[13:38] <Like> !quit
[13:38] <acicula> scanuks: it should reset normally if you unplug/plug the screen, or restart the graphics server/reboot
[13:38] <Chipzzz> Like: it's "/exit" or "/quit"
[13:38] <scanuks> acicula: its a netbook
[13:39] <scanuks> acicula: i cant find in google where it stores the settings
[13:40] <acicula> scanuks: it doesnt i think, hence restarting x should reset it to the default
[13:40] <scanuks> acicula: theres no "system restore" for ubuntu ?
[13:40] <scanuks> acicula: i already rebooted it still blank screen
[13:41] <acicula> scanuks: when you boot hold the shift key to force the ubuntu boot menu to show, then boot safe mode
[13:41] <zgr> anyone knoews how to get video thumbnails in pcmanfm?
[13:41] <acicula> !xorg
[13:41] <MonkeyDust> scanuks  in the grub menu, choose Restore > Fsck
[13:41] <acicula> !xorgconf
[13:41] <acicula> ugh, whats the command that reconfigures x back to its default?
[13:41] <scanuks> acicula: theres no such a file
[13:42] <acicula> scanuks: if you reboot and hold shift you should get a little text menu
[13:42] <scanuks> acicula: yup grub menu
[13:43] <rymate1234> why is xorg.conf deprecated
[13:43] <acicula> choose the safe mode from there
[13:43] <acicula> rymate1234: because xorg configures itself, you can still use xorg.conf if you want to though
[13:43] <scanuks> acicula: u mean recovery mode ?
[13:43] <recon_lap> hi, my open with dialog is littered with duplicate entries from multiple reinstalls, anyone know how to clean this up?
[13:43] <drakalen> !pl
[13:43] <MonkeyDust> scanuks  yes, recovery and then fsck
[13:44] <acicula> scanuks: yes that one
[13:44] <Simon1245> Hey guys, which program do you use to burn stuff?
[13:44] <Simon1245> I wanna burn some images and some files.
[13:44] <MonkeyDust> brasero
[13:44] <rileyp> a fire
[13:45] <scanuks> acicula: now what ?
[13:45] <scanuks> acicula: its finished
[13:45] <acicula> scanuks: what do you see, it finished what?
[13:45] <scanuks> acicula: its finished
[13:45] <Simon1245> MonkeyDust, Is Brasero a good one?
[13:46] <MonkeyDust> Simon1245  it does the job it's made for
[13:46] <acicula> scanuks: that does not tell me anything, can you describe what you see?
[13:46] <rileyp> Are there any issues in sharing a home dir between say lucid and natty partitions
[13:46] <rileyp> or is it best to make a new home dir every time
[13:46] <Steevca> I am having a slow preformance with java powered games and some streaming sites,but i am runing HD videos on Youtube without a problem.What can be the problem?
[13:47] <Simon1245> MonkeyDust, alright great I'll use it too, thanks for suggestion.
[13:47] <Simon1245> bye guys.
[13:47] <scanuks> acicula: i success now to enter the desktop mode in recovery mode
[13:48] <rileyp> Are there any issues in sharing a home dir between say lucid and natty partitions
[13:49] <scanuks> acicula: how can i reset anything now
[13:49] <scanuks> scanuks: can i run ubuntu setup from the computer
[13:50] <acicula> scanuks: uhm you can have a look at the display settings under Preferences->Display, i would remove that grandr tool just to be sure and reboot to see if these settings persist
[13:50] <scanuks> scanuks: i mean without booting from USB
[13:50] <acicula> scanuks: you can not run the ubuntu installer from within ubuntu, but you can use software-center to install/remove/reinstall programs
[13:51] <acicula> rileyp: no, unles you use an encrypted home
[13:52] <recon_lap> ok, got some of them in ~/.local/share/applications/ still a couple of dupes left
[13:52] <cloudgeek> irc for apache and nginx
[13:52] <rileyp> acicula,  no it  not encrypted thanks
[13:52] <NoetGoed> how can I disable the startup sound in 11.10?
[13:53] <zaur-ibr> hi
[13:53] <bastidrazor> NoetGoed: click the cog in the upper right corner > Startup Applications > uncheck GNOME Login Sound > Close
[13:54] <zer0-day> -> anyone know the solution /usr/bin/ld: /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libgtk-x11-2.0.so: undefined reference to symbol?
[13:54] <scanuks> NoetGoed: go to the login options
[13:54] <rileyp> acicula,  so the only issue might be the .lirc files as newer kernels behave different with lirc and the mceusb tranceiver
[13:54] <rileyp> And use a different naming convention for the buttons
[13:54] <acicula> rileyp: it is possible that different versions create conflicts over such config files yes
[13:54] <Steevca> I am having a slow preformance with java powered games and some streaming sites,but i am runing HD videos on Youtube without a problem.What can be the problem?
[13:55] <NoetGoed> bastidrazor thanks a lot <3 although I was not able to untick it. I simply removed it. the less a program distracts me the better...
[13:56] <acicula> zer0-day: it means that the loader encountered a symbol it cannot find. typically its a compiling issue where you are trying to run a program with different libs
[13:56] <scanuks> acicula: so i see the desktop at recovery mode
[13:56] <acicula> err, related to compiling, as its
[13:56] <nicofs> can someone help me create an empty file of 40GB? it's something like "dd if=/dev/zero " and then some more...
[13:56] <acicula> scanuks: if you reboot now does the problem go away?
[13:57] <WhiteEye> Hi frends :D
[13:57] <scanuks> acicula: nope
[13:57] <chroot> hi, what's fingerprint in linux?
[13:57] <llutz> nicofs: dd if=/dev/zero of=file.name bs=1M count=40000
[13:57] <chroot> or you can give me some hint on fingerprint.
[13:58] <WhiteEye> you can use amap for fingerprinting
[13:58] <WhiteEye> Hi txomon|home
[13:59] <acicula> scanuks: is there a file called xorg.conf under /etc/X11 ?
[13:59] <chroot> WhiteEye, and amap is a tool ?
[13:59] <WhiteEye> yepp
[13:59] <MonkeyDust> nicofs  for an empty file, try dd if=/dev/zero of=blah count=[number of blocks]
[13:59] <scanuks> scanuks: theres a directory /etc/X11 but theres no xorg.conf
[14:01] <acicula> scanuks: ok that is good, can you try and run "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg" in a terminal without the quotes
[14:01] <acicula> zer0-day: please ask your questions here instead of in a pm.
[14:02] <recon_lap> god pitivi is aggravating
[14:02] <scanuks> acicula: command not found
[14:02] <alatriste08> his
[14:02] <nicofs> MonkeyDust, how do i translate 40GB into blocks? oO
[14:02] <acicula> scanuks: which command is not found
[14:02] <llutz> nicofs: dd if=/dev/zero of=file.name bs=1M count=40000
[14:03] <theadmin> nicofs: dd if=/dev/zero of=file.name bs=1G count=40
[14:03] <scanuks> acicula: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[14:03] <theadmin> Or what llutz said
[14:03] <acicula> scanuks: did you type it without the quotes?
[14:03] <nicofs> llutz, theadmin i get the picture ;-)
[14:03] <scanuks> acicula: of course lol
[14:03] <llutz> or what theadmin said, or bs=40G count=1 :)    do some math
[14:03] <MonkeyDust> nicofs  2048000 = 1GB
[14:04] <acicula> scanuks: what happens if you type sudo ls
[14:04] <scanuks> acicula: it shows me the fies in the current directory
[14:04] <theadmin> ...why exactly does one need 40G of zeroes? o_O
[14:04] <acicula> scanuks: what happens if you just type dpkg-reconfigure
[14:05] <scanuks> acicula: must be root
[14:05] <damo22> theadmin: some people like a lot of nothing
[14:05] <acicula> scanuks: what happens if you type sudo dpkg-reconfigure
[14:05] <theadmin> damo22: But nothing is /dev/null. A zero is at least something :P
[14:05] <MonkeyDust> a zero is the *absence* of something ;)
[14:06] <scanuks> acicula: oh my mistake sudo i putted a '-' between sudo dpkg-reconfigure AND  xserver-xorg
[14:06] <damo22> theadmin: it would provide a great tool to mask a 40G series of bits and output another 40G of zeros
[14:06] <acicula> scanuks: np, happens to the best of us. did the command succeed, ie gave some output?
[14:06] <scanuks> acicula: and i did that sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg Now and it worked . no output tho
[14:07] <theadmin> damo22: Well, yeah, but I still don't see the point... If you're trying to securely delete a file you can use shred...
[14:07] <damo22> theadmin: securely deleting a file isnt done with zeros, its obvious that someone deleted the file
[14:07] <acicula> scanuks: thats ok. can you type  xrandr  in a console, and then reboot to see if its working again now?
[14:08] <scanuks> acicula: ok ill reboot\
[14:08] <theadmin> damo22: Which is why I'm asking -- what is the point? :D
[14:09] <scanuks> acicula: the system started up but i still see a blank screen :(
[14:09] <acicula> scanuks: doh :/
[14:09] <damo22> theadmin: it would be okay to dd zeros to the first 100Mb of the drive just to wipe most traces of the filesystem
[14:09] <rumpe1> theadmin, if you want to shred/compress the space on a partition not occupied by files...
[14:09] <acicula> scanuks: dunno whats causing it then, xorg should have the right settings. maybe its getting hung up on something else
[14:10] <scanuks> acicula: how can i run the lubuntu install again without booting from USB
[14:10] <B4ckBOne> How do i upgrade a programm to the "testing" or "proposed" version?
[14:10] <acicula> scanuks: its easiest to reinstall from the usb stick really, but you can use grub to boot a cdimage directly from the harddisk
[14:11] <B4ckBOne> clementine is a bit out of date
[14:11] <scanuks> acicula: ISO ?
[14:11] <damo22> are you saying the easiest way to defrag a drive is to create a huge file containing zeros?
[14:11] <acicula> scanuks: if you created a seperate partition for ubuntu and one for /home you can preserve your home directory and just replace the ubuntu installation
[14:11] <dob_> hello, how can I get the real memory usage of my system? I have about 16G memory in my system and only apache is running, but top shows me that 8G are used. I don't think that's the correct value.
[14:11] <dob_> Any ideas?
[14:11] <MonkeyDust> dob_  du -h
[14:11] <acicula> scanuks: cd image, honestly i would just use the usb based installation, its the simplest way to do it
[14:12] <MonkeyDust> dob_  never mind that
[14:12] <dob_> :)
[14:12] <llutz> dob_: free -m    line starting with -/+
[14:12] <scanuks> acicula: i dont have a bootable USB at the moment
[14:12] <scanuks> acicula: i only have a normal USB
[14:12] <onasis> could anyone help me with setting up my ubuntu please? bit new to all this!
[14:12] <onasis> hello everyone btw
[14:13] <theadmin> damo22: Defrag a drive? There is e4defrag and such things...
[14:13] <llvllatrix> Hi All. I logged into my box this morning and when I click on a user in gdb it immediately says incorrect password. When I try the same in a command prompt I get 5 lines saying password incorrect and max number of tries exceeded. Logging into recovery mode works so I have a root prompt. Any ideas?
[14:13] <acicula> scanuks: if you have a usb stick you can create an ubuntu boot stick using unetbootin. if you reboot into the recovery mode you should be able to install that and use the tool to make a bootable usb disk
[14:13] <theadmin> onasis: Should be obvious -- download the ISO, burn it, boot the CD and then run the installer
[14:13] <dob_> llutz: So the value -/+ buffers/cache is the real value? That sounds correct: free 14396
[14:13] <theadmin> onasis: You need to tell us which step you're stuck on to be of help
[14:13] <zer0-day> ok, sorry acicula i post the error in a pastebin http://pastebin.com/tapNZGuC
[14:13] <MonkeyDust> onasis  i guess you're not familiar with partitioning?
[14:14] <llutz> dob_: yes, values in the line above show usage including buffers/caches etc.
[14:14] <onasis> theadmin yeah, i havnt been specific, i need to setup gtk+
[14:14] <zer0-day> seems to be a problem with 'gdk_threads_enter'
[14:14] <onasis> im on ubuntu now, so thats fine
[14:14] <theadmin> onasis: Err, what do you mean, set up?... Gtk+ is preinstalled in Ubuntu since Ubuntu is a gnome-based distro
[14:14] <dob_> llutz: Background is that i want to calculate the size of the memory usage if I migrate to a virtual infrastructure.
[14:15] <onasis> err, well as i said im new to all this
[14:15] <nicofs_> theadmin, i just need a 40gb file to mount and format...
[14:15] <MonkeyDust> onasis  start from the beginning, what were you doing before you came here?
[14:15] <onasis> ok
[14:16] <onasis> systems installed fine, installed ardour and audio apps and trying to get line in working
[14:16] <onasis> only seem to have mic working
[14:17] <acicula> zer0-day: this is a bit outside of scope for this channel tbh, but if you read the pastebin it already tells you what to do. symbols from the gtk libs are missing, but prsent in the lib/x86_64/gdB.* lib, try adding the flags to the linker. basically its telling you that you should add a library reference to /usr/lib/x86_64 for the linker to look In
[14:17] <onasis> trying to install freebirth and its asking for gtk+ and other things to be installed
[14:17] <zer0-day> ok thanks , and sorry :)
[14:17] <theadmin> onasis: Are you installing from source or what?
[14:17] <MonkeyDust> !info freebirth
[14:17] <zer0-day> theadmin: yes
[14:17] <ntr0py> Plugging in usb audio device gives me "no or invalid class specific endpoint descriptor" in dmesg and crackling sound playback... May this be related?
[14:17] <theadmin> zer0-day: ?
[14:18] <onasis> well im not a 100% with all of the proper terms
[14:18] <zer0-day> i think you was talking to me theadmin xD
[14:18] <MonkeyDust> onasis  if you're a musician, you may want to try ubuntu-studio
[14:18] <theadmin> onasis: You usually install software from the repos, e.g: sudo apt-get install PROGRAMNAME
[14:18] <acicula> zer0-day: could also be
[14:18] <wellichen> guys, I set my PATH variable, but whenever I log off it forgets what I had set for it. Does anyone knows how can I keep it the way I edited?
[14:18] <theadmin> zer0-day: No, to onasis
[14:18] <zer0-day> ty all guys
[14:19] <onasis> im able to extract the files, then i try a ./configure
[14:19] <acicula> zer0-day: that you are trying to link to stuff in lib while you should be linking to stuff in x86`_64 only. seem to recall that lib might just be 32bit
[14:19] <theadmin> wellichen: Add the following line to ~/.bashrc: export PATH=your_dir1:your_dir2:$PATH
[14:19] <ome> What is the dev channel ?
[14:19] <theadmin> onasis: Don't. Just run "sudo apt-get install freebirth"
[14:19] <onasis> that seems to work, but when i try to make them nothing happens
[14:19] <auronandace> onasis: why are you compiling software?
[14:19] <theadmin> onasis: You don't need to install from source. Use apt-get or the Ubuntu Software Center first. ALWAYS check if it's there first, if not, THEN install from source.
[14:20] <onasis> totally noob sorry
[14:20] <wellichen> theadmin: ty going to check it!
[14:20] <onasis> trying my best!
[14:20] <theadmin> onasis: Ok no problem, here, I'll show you an easy way. Which Ubuntu version are you on?
[14:20] <onasis> 10.11 i think 64bit
[14:20] <ome> GIMF - not really though -. but found it.
[14:21] <theadmin> onasis: "10.11" is not a valid Ubuntu version
[14:21] <onasis> thanks in advance
[14:21] <theadmin> onasis: 11.10?
[14:21] <onasis> :) yeah
[14:21] <onasis> sorry
[14:21] <onasis> i got flu
[14:21] <onasis> not thinking straight
[14:21] <theadmin> onasis: Ok, well then. Click the Ubuntu logo at the top, and type in "Software Center" (without quotes or anything), once that's done launch the app that appears
[14:21] <theadmin> onasis: After that, search for whatever you need to install there
[14:21] <monohedron> is there an official open office or libre office channel that is maned?
[14:21] <Abooda> onasis: you know there are ways to find out from a console, right?
[14:21] <theadmin> onasis: Should be easy as pie
[14:22] <onasis> ok im at software centre
[14:23] <bazhang> monohedron, try #openoffice.org
[14:23] <auronandace> !alis | monohedron
[14:23] <monohedron> thanks
[14:27] <recon_lap> really wonder why pitivi was included in ubuntu, it's just not ready for release
[14:29] <onasis> so basically if ive installed 11.10 i wont have to install pango, glib atk?
[14:29] <recon_lap> anyone got a suggestion for a alternate vedio/sound editor in ubutnu ?
[14:29] <theadmin> recon_lap: Kdenlive, VLMC, Openshot
[14:29] <auronandace> recon_lap: openshot is great
[14:29] <recon_lap> thx, i'll give openshot a go
[14:31] <auronandace> onasis: dependancies are automatically resolved if you install from apt-get
[14:32] <onasis> so is ardour considered the best daw?
[14:33] <auronandace> !best | onasis
[14:33] <onasis> i come from protools hd, im looking for a more slimline daw for when im on the road
[14:33] <acicula> scanuks: please ask your questions here, not in a pm. To create a bootable usb stick you have to install unetbootin. you can install that using the software-center. Once that is installed you can open the program and create a bootable usb stick with it.
[14:33] <auronandace> onasis: daw?
[14:33] <onasis> digital audio workstation
[14:34] <auronandace> onasis: for editing audio i find audacity good (but i'm by no means any expert)
[14:34] <onasis> yeah ive used audacity and it pretty good for basic editing
[14:35] <onasis> just wondered whether there was something closer to protools
[14:35] <onasis> that i didnt know about
[14:36] <onasis> one problem i do have is i dont seem to be able to configure my line in with anything?
[14:36] <onasis> could you help with this?
[14:36] <ntr0py> I have USB audio crackling problems and get "no or invalid class specific endpoint descriptor" which means the driver will guess defaults for the device, is that the origin of the crackling problem?
[14:38] <onasis> also anyone use xchat and know how to get rid of the join/quit msgs?
[14:38] <onasis> i cant find how to get rid of them in the prefs!
[14:38] <recon_lap> hmm, openshot works good, but does not show sound in enough detail and seems to lack tools for cutting and pasting a clip. I'm trying to loop a guitar tutorial so i can try play along without have to restart the clip every 20 seconds
[14:38] <skorket> I am having trouble installing a font.  I am running 11.10 (oneiric), have placed the font in '/usr/share/fonts/truetype/prog/' with the name 'ProggyTiny.ttf' and permissions 'rw-r--r--'.  I have run 'fc-cache -vf'  and have even restarted X, but when I try to run 'xterm -font ProggyTiny' it says 'xterm: cannot load font 'ProggyTiny''.  Any suggestions?
[14:39] <auronandace> recon_lap: i cut and paste all the time in openshot
[14:40] <auronandace> recon_lap: add it to the timeline, then you can duplicate and crop as needed
[14:40] <recon_lap> auronandace: yep, but i cant see the sound to sync up the beat
[14:41] <auronandace> recon_lap: ah, for music i use audacity
[14:41] <auronandace> recon_lap: openshot is more for video
[14:42] <recon_lap> auronandace: thats what i was getting at, problem is i want to edit a music video =-O
[14:42] <auronandace> recon_lap: you can edit the video in openshot and the sound in audacity
[14:43] <auronandace> recon_lap: i'd do the sound first then sync it with the video
[14:44] <auronandace> recon_lap: bear in mind i'm no expert, there may be better tools/methods out there
[14:45] <recon_lap> auronandace: workable, but bound to be really difficult. the interface for fitivi is perfect, pity it's got so many bugs :'( , but thax for the input
[14:45] <auronandace> recon_lap: no worries :)
[14:48] <consolecowboy> so i broke my right arrow key on my laptop, how can i reassign it to another key?
[14:48] <somsip> consolecowboy: Xmodmap
[14:48] <consolecowboy> somsip: cheers, i'll check it out
[14:50] <ActionParsnip> people are too quick to bail
[14:51] <David-Id-1> any some one know how to configure kolabd ubuntu ?
[14:57] <ActionParsnip> http://wiki.kolab.org/Debian_-_Administrators_-_Kolab_Installation
[14:57] <ActionParsnip> may help
[14:58] <trisqueldotim> Hi there... Aloha .. hit there..
[14:58] <user33> hello
[14:58] <verona7> bye
[14:59] <trisqueldotim> So I need to install a debian package and i have a Tarball but don't know how to install it ::: what should i do/progress???
[14:59] <f3bruary> is it bad if you accidentally deleted .bash_login and .bashrc ?
[14:59] <auronandace> trisqueldotim: what are you trying to install?
[14:59] <trisqueldotim> icecat..
[14:59] <xukun> I just installed ubuntu on lvm. now I want to mount the root partition but then it says: mount /dev/VG/root /mnt/ mount: /dev/mapper/VG-root already mounted or /mnt/ busy
[15:00] <xukun> any idea?
[15:00] <auronandace> trisqueldotim: why not use firefox from the repos?
[15:00] <trisqueldotim> NONONONONONONONONONONONOI
[15:01] <trisqueldotim> auronandace: I already have Firefox .. now I want ICECAT to see if it worx..
[15:02] <quiescens> f3bruary: depends whether you modified the files for your own purposes in any way, how recently you backed up, or how recently you deleted them
[15:02] <auronandace> trisqueldotim: i don't see the point of that, icecat is just firefox without the branding
[15:02] <f3bruary> actually I accidentally replaced them
[15:02] <deskduck> Hi, I have dockbarx installed but it wont start at startup how need to manually open the executable file, please help
[15:03] <f3bruary> I was in my home folder while in a ftp session and downloaded .bashrc
[15:03] <onasis> can anyone help me get my line in port working please?
[15:03] <fellayaboy> can someone help me...how can i reiinstall the network manaager on 10.10..i mistakely uninstalled it
[15:03] <trisqueldotim> auronandace: Well, we will see if the other 1483 people can help me then..
[15:03] <deskduck> Hi, I have dockbarx installed but it wont start at startup I need to manually open the executable file, please help
[15:03] <deskduck> sorry for that error
[15:03] <recon_lap> anyone know what the visualisation of a piece of audio is called ?
[15:03] <monohedron> f3bruary, like in you don't know where they went or you overwrote them
[15:03] <brkolog> recon_lap: waveform?
[15:03] <f3bruary> overwrote, but I think I got them back
[15:03] <f3bruary> /etc/skel/
[15:03] <onasis> recon_lap: spectragram
[15:03] <theadmin> fellayaboy: sudo apt-get install network-manager-gnome
[15:04] <fellayaboy> my interents not working
[15:04] <recon_lap> thx, thing i'll use both :)
[15:04] <theadmin> fellayaboy: Wired or wireless?
[15:04] <fellayaboy> is their a deb i can get
[15:04] <fellayaboy> wired]
[15:04] <monohedron> f3bruary, if didn't modify them before hand it shouldn't be much of an hassle
[15:04] <theadmin> fellayaboy: Open a terminal and type in "sudo dhclient eth0"
[15:04] <theadmin> fellayaboy: Should bring it up
[15:04] <theadmin> fellayaboy: After that, use the apt-get command
[15:04] <fellayaboy> hmm ok hold on
[15:04] <trisqueldotim> Hi there, I wanna install IceCAT as my alternative browser on my Debian machine ::: I have the IceCAT 10.0 Tarball ::: Waht do I do Now ??
 : any references more spesific
[15:05] <theadmin> trisqueldotim: We don't support Debian here
[15:05] <theadmin> trisqueldotim: Go to #debian
[15:05] <trisqueldotim> ok
[15:06] <deskduck> Hi, I have dockbarx installed but it wont start at startup I need to manually open the executable file, please help
[15:06] <xukun> can anybody please tell me why I get this message: mount /dev/mapper/VG-root mapper/
[15:06] <xukun> mount: /dev/mapper/VG-root already mounted or mapper/ busy
[15:07] <Dante_Kelly> http://fapower.caster.fm  -- Listen now !
[15:07] <LjL> Dante_Kelly: no spam here thanks
[15:07] <ActionParsnip> deskduck: symlink the .desktop file in /usr/share/applications   into ~/.config/autostart
[15:07] <theadmin> deskduck: Add it to the Startup Applications
[15:07] <deskduck> anyone?
[15:07] <theadmin> ...or that
[15:08] <zau> hello everybody. 1st time here. I wish to install Ubuntu Business Desktop Remix with Wubi. However, Wubi 11.10 fails in doing so. Can someone help me, please?
[15:08] <auronandace> zau: ubuntu business desktop remix?
[15:08] <theadmin> zau: That doesn't sound like a supported Ubuntu derivative. We only support Ubuntu, Ubuntu Server, Kubuntu, Xubuntu, Lubuntu, Edubuntu and Ubuntu Studio.
[15:09] <ActionParsnip> auronandace: theres a doc on omgubuntu sbout it
[15:09] <Oer> theadmin it is legit Canonical.
[15:09] <ActionParsnip> theadmin: its going to or is already launched by canonical
[15:09] <ActionParsnip> theadmin: http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2012/02/ubuntu-business-remix-launched-by-canonical/
[15:09] <theadmin> ActionParsnip, Oer: Oh. Huh. Something new I guess.
[15:10] <ActionParsnip> theadmin: yep
[15:10] <quiescens> heh
[15:10] <Oer> theadmin, i am not sure, if it goes paid > business
[15:10] <deskduck> ActionParsnip, there is only DockbarX Preference file in /usr/share/applications
[15:10] <Oer> http://www.ubuntu.com/business/desktop
[15:10] <ubuntuaddicted> its actually very EPIC that canonical released this as far as my business goes
[15:10] <theadmin> Oer: Not that I really care, not gonna use it lol, just gotta know we have a new supported derivative.
[15:11] <ActionParsnip> theadmin: http://www.ubuntu.com/business/desktop/remix   looks legit to me
[15:11] <ubuntuaddicted> it is legit, it was tweeted out yesterday like crazy
[15:11] <ActionParsnip> deskduck: make your own file in ~/.config/autostart     to run the command'
[15:11] <theadmin> ActionParsnip: I see, thanks. Also, pidgin for IRC is gross (just saying. Seriously, consider a sane client... Pidgin is seriously lacking in most common functionality)
[15:11] <ActionParsnip> theadmin: its sends and recieves text, what more do i need..
[15:12] <theadmin> ActionParsnip: Heh. Fair enough :D
[15:12] <ActionParsnip> theadmin: no, its a question. What more do I need
[15:12] <deskduck> ActionParsnip, there is only DockbarX Preference file in /usr/share/applications but the executable is in /usr/bin  can you tell me how to make my own file?
[15:12] <ActionParsnip> theadmin: why is pidgin 'gross'?
[15:12] <monohedron> Pidgin is for users
[15:12] <ubuntuaddicted> lol
[15:12] <fellayaboy> theadmin thanks that did it thank u so much
[15:12] <monohedron> its playful and not to the point
[15:13] <fellayaboy> what is dhclient
[15:13] <theadmin> ActionParsnip: I don't think Pidgin has the "ignore" function. Pidgin can't sanely communicate with nickserv automatically either I think (not so sure on that one)...
[15:13] <monohedron> i prefer command line clients or xchat
[15:13] <ActionParsnip> theadmin: wrong, it does have ignore
[15:13] <theadmin> fellayaboy: dhclient is a somewhat old alternative to dhcpcd. It gets you an IP address from your DHCP servers
[15:13] <ActionParsnip> theadmin: I ignore chanserv and nickserv after a new install
[15:13] <fellayaboy> ooh ok
[15:13] <deskduck> ActionParsnip, there is only DockbarX Preference file in /usr/share/applications but the executable is in /usr/bin  can you tell me how to make my own file?
[15:14] <qw-help> hello
[15:14] <ActionParsnip> monohedron: it sends and receives text from the irc server. I've been using it for 12 years now (I used it when it was gaim)
[15:14] <fellayaboy> theadmin thanks for telling me...so what does network manager essentially do..cuz i thought without that u couldnt get nothing
[15:14] <kraehe> moin, how to disable the spdif soundcard 0, if both cards are snd-hda-intel?
[15:14] <deskduck> ActionParsnip?
[15:15] <ActionParsnip> deskduck: copy one of the desktop files probably already in there and change the Exec= line to whatever you run
[15:15] <theadmin> fellayaboy: NetworkManager establishes connections via a graphical interface and the DBus system messagebus. Quite an annoying thing to have actually.
[15:15] <theadmin> fellayaboy: For me, at least.
[15:15] <zau> guys, so any hint on how to have Wubi recognize Ubuntu Business Desktop Remix, please?
[15:16] <fellayaboy> ok why is that and do u use an alternative besides network manager
[15:16] <monohedron> ActionParsnip, I dislike it the higher the version number gets :)
[15:16] <fellayaboy> the DBus i mean
[15:16] <theadmin> fellayaboy: Try wicd, it's a nice and lightweight network manager replacement
[15:16] <ActionParsnip> monohedron: never had an issue with it, it does what IRC is made to do, so I fail to see where the issue is
[15:16] <fellayaboy> thanks...im having issues with network manager so maybe this might help
[15:17] <theadmin> fellayaboy: Remove networkmanager first though
[15:17] <kraehe> or asked the other way round - is it possible for ubuntu to ignore sound card 0 and use sound card 1 for everything?
[15:17] <ActionParsnip> theadmin: so, what else do I need in an IRC client exactly?
[15:17] <fellayaboy> ok..do u know off the top of your head if wicd supports openvpn in its interface
[15:17] <monohedron> ActionParsnip, its to bulky and convoluted
[15:17] <ActionParsnip> !info pidgin
[15:17] <kairat> Здорово народ
[15:17] <ActionParsnip> !info libpurple
[15:18] <_cb> how do I load a folder with music into a banshee playlist?
[15:18] <theadmin> ActionParsnip: Eh never mind me.
[15:18] <theadmin> !ru | kairat
[15:18] <ActionParsnip> theadmin: thats what I thought
[15:18] <theadmin> ActionParsnip: Up to you :P
[15:18] <deskduck> I simply copied the executable file to .config/autostart is that ok? i dont know a thing about symlink ActionParsnip
[15:18] <theadmin> deskduck: That won't work I think...
[15:18] <ActionParsnip> monohedron: I can take the hit of a few Mb as it works well and gels with the rest of the desktop
[15:18] <ActionParsnip> deskduck: no, not at all
[15:18] <recon_lap> I like pidgin, simple to use, works for what i want, if you have a other preference just go install it. no biggie
[15:19] <deskduck> then what do I do theadmin? There is no .desktop file
[15:19] <ActionParsnip> deskduck: you need the .desktop file, not the executable, or I would have said the executable...
[15:19] <monohedron> ActionParsnip, it's a question of taste. i like ircii better
[15:19] <ActionParsnip> monohedron: yes but you can't explain intelligently, why pidgin is so bad except size
[15:19] <deskduck> can you guide me ActionParsnip? how do I get the .desktop file?
[15:19] <kairat> Kazakhstaaaaan
[15:20] <raven_> hi
[15:20] <ActionParsnip> deskduck: copy the one from /usr/share/applications   and change the Exec= line
[15:20] <raven_> what is the best way to sync rosegarden, ardour and jack?
[15:20] <fresh> mic installation problem
[15:20] <recon_lap> right, i'm off, keep well everyone, bye
[15:20] <theadmin> deskduck: Bah! Search for "Startup Applications" in the Dash, this tool does the hard work for you
[15:20] <Guest78635> how to install mic in udbuntu
[15:21] <monohedron> ActionParsnip, i bow to your superiority and will rethink my lewd ways
[15:21] <deskduck> ok I opened the startup applications now
[15:21] <ActionParsnip> monohedron: i'm not saying that, i'm just pointing out that you critisize something yet when challenged you have nothing to validate it with
[15:21] <deskduck> ok I opened the startup applications now theadmin?
[15:22] <ActionParsnip> deskduck: cd ~/.config/autostart; cp /usr/share/applications/dockbarxpreference.desktop
[15:23] <monohedron> i told you what my point is if you don't get it then that's fine with me. i'm not telling you to drop pidgin so keep using it OK ?
[15:23] <BluesKaj> howdy all
[15:23] <ActionParsnip> monohedron: wasn't going to stop. Pidgin rocks. I use IRSSI over SSH whenI'm at work
[15:24] <ActionParsnip> deskduck: obviosly change the filename of the file to copy, Linux is case sensitive
[15:24] <deskduck> cp: missing destination file operand after `/usr/share/applications/dockbarxpreference.desktop'
[15:24] <BluesKaj> no irc clients allowed @ work ActionParsnip ?
[15:24] <ActionParsnip> deskduck: yes I don't use the app so you will have to be the smart one here and use the right file name
[15:24] <salvia> Hi all! :)
[15:24] <ActionParsnip> BluesKaj: sadly not, but they allow ssh ;)
[15:25] <ActionParsnip> deskduck: you can use TAB to autocomplete the filename
[15:25] <BluesKaj> yup, there's frequently a workaround :)
[15:25] <monohedron> ActionParsnip, I'll have a look at that one
[15:25] <quiescens> ActionParsnip: i think they also mean that cp needs two arguments, maybe a . at the end
[15:25] <ActionParsnip> quiescens: it will just be copied to pwd
[15:25] <BluesKaj> is hud working for you guys ?
[15:26] <deskduck> I think I got it  now to test, what should I do?
[15:26] <onasis> anyone know how to configure line in input on 11.10 please?
[15:26] <ActionParsnip> quiescens: hmm, seems it needs the period. my bad
[15:26] <scanuks> acicula: i hope it will be good now i re installed
[15:26] <scanuks> i have NO idea what wrong with Lubuntu files
[15:26] <auronandace> BluesKaj: hud is from 12.04, which is in #ubuntu+1
[15:26] <salvia> I wanna know if it's possible to install ubuntu on a USB stick! (...don't confuse with the "Persistent Live CD", I wanna use the USB drive as an hdd where to install the system)
[15:27] <ActionParsnip> deskduck: if you now open the file in ~/.config/autostart   and change the Exec= line, you can make it run the dock instead of the config
[15:27] <onasis> salvia i have installed it on usb
[15:27] <ActionParsnip> salvia: yes, very possible
[15:27] <auronandace> salvia: yes, just choose the usb partition when installing it (just like a harddrive install)
[15:27] <onasis> instructions for doing usb stick are on the website
[15:27] <salvia> onasis: ok fine, how did you do? normal installation but chosing usb as partition ?
[15:27] <Guest78635> mic not working
[15:27] <salvia> Oh perfect! Thanks all! :D
[15:28] <Guest78635> how to install
[15:28] <salvia> thx onasis, ActionParsnip, auronandace
[15:28] <auronandace> salvia: you'll also want to make sure the bootloader is installed to the usb too
[15:28] <ActionParsnip> Guest78635: how does the mic connect to the system?
[15:28] <Kartagis> my mic seems to be working, but skype doesn't recognize it at all, how come?
[15:28] <Guest78635> KartagiS: how to install mic
[15:29] <ActionParsnip> Guest78635: how does the mic connect to the system?
[15:29] <salvia> auronandace: mmmh right... i don't want to install it on MBR....
[15:29] <Guest78635> system mic
[15:29] <salvia> I wanna leave hdd no-touched
[15:29] <ActionParsnip> Guest78635: so part of the system, like inbuilt into a laptop?
[15:31] <codemagician> What or who determines which versions of MySQL server will be used on Ubuntu 10.04.3 LTS?
[15:31] <BluesKaj> auronandace,  hud doesn't run in unity on 11.10 ?
[15:31] <codemagician> for example, when doing a sudo apt-get install mysql-server
[15:31] <auronandace> BluesKaj: it wasn't designed for 11.10
[15:31] <ActionParsnip> BluesKaj: its a precise thing
[15:32] <BluesKaj> auronandace,  ActionParsnip , ok , too bad
[15:32] <fidel> codemagician: apt-cache policy - in case you want to check the available version
[15:33] <pablo__> a
[15:33] <bhara> mic now working
[15:33] <pablo__> siema skurwysyny łyse
[15:33] <bhara> how to test is mic really working or not, if it is confirmed
[15:33] <pablo__> jestem kaskaderem!
[15:33] <bhara> how to make it workk
[15:33] <ActionParsnip> bhara: sound recorder
[15:33] <BluesKaj> !pl | pablo__
[15:33] <bhara> i am really new to ubuntu
[15:33] <quiescens> codemagician: if you just apt-get install mysql-server, it will install whichever it says for Depends: when you type apt-get show mysql-server
[15:33] <bhara> how to go sound recorder
[15:34] <bhara> i guess it is nexxt to Wireless network icon
[15:34] <onasis> have any of you guys got the line in jack working in ubuntu?
[15:34] <onasis> i only have mic?
[15:34] <bhara> onasis ?
[15:35] <verona7> regole iltables grazie
[15:35] <bhara> u trying to saying anything to me
[15:35] <codemagician> So if I'm setting up a web-server, should I stick with the defaults?
[15:35] <quiescens> codemagician: sorry, apt-cache show mysql-server
[15:35] <qnix> hi folks.
[15:35] <codemagician> I was told my version of MySQL server is quite dated
[15:35] <BluesKaj> bhara,  or tpe alsamixer in the terminal and make sure your mic ctlrls are turned up and unmuted
[15:35] <Kartagis> my mic seems to be working, but skype doesn't recognize it at all, how come?
[15:35] <BluesKaj> tpe=type
[15:36] <quiescens> codemagician: if you just install the mysql-server package it will just install the latest version that is in your repository, but if you are on 10.04 LTS then it will be whatever version it was in 2010
[15:36] <qnix> I just installed my new video card, which is a nvidia GTX 550 Ti. and installed the drivers from the x-swat ppa. However, when I try to use the driver I get: No screen found. no driver available. I thought the 550 ti was pretty standard... isn't it?
[15:36] <codemagician> quiescens: I see
[15:36] <codemagician> I also heard that 10.04.3 is built on an unstable release of debian?
[15:38] <bhara> s, it displaying some bars
[15:38] <codemagician> cat /etc/debian_version  shows squeeze/sid
[15:38] <bhara> in that what i do
[15:38] <codemagician> should I be concerned about this?
[15:38] <auronandace> no
[15:39] <Kartagis> nothing can be recorded through microphone although I hear my own voice. any ideas?
[15:39] <bhara> Blueskaj: display 3 bard
[15:39] <bhara> bars
[15:39] <theadmin> codemagician: Nope. Ubuntu has always followed the unstable branch of Debian, but it has it's own packages and so on so it doesn't really matter
[15:40] <BluesKaj> !alsamixer | bhara
[15:40] <codemagician> theadmin: so as a general rule, should I just keep the security updates to-do-date on the 10.04.3 LTS server and stick to the default packages.  I want a stable server for a web-app
[15:40] <bhara> YARAVATHU UTHAVI SEYYUNGAL
[15:40] <codemagician> the web app will be PHP5.3 with MySQL database
[15:40] <theadmin> codemagician: Good then, yes, that's how you'd do it
[15:40] <bhara> yes, BluesKaj
[15:40] <BluesKaj> !info alsamixer | bhara
[15:41] <bhara> ok, how to fix this issue now
[15:41] <verona7> programmi nativi 64 dove trovarli?
[15:41] <auronandace> bhara: show us a screenshot of your alsamixer
[15:41] <bhara> BluesKaj, is there any command to isntall that app
[15:41] <codemagician> theadmin: as a general rule, for releasing a web app would it make sense to always develop my apps to work with the default mysql-server versions that come with the LTS server releases?  would that be a wise move?
[15:41] <Kartagis> !find alsamixer | bhara
[15:41] <theadmin> codemagician: Could do that... I dunno, I use sqlite personally, heh
[15:42] <bhara> in terminal shall i type
[15:42] <bhara> gnome-alsamixer
[15:42] <Kartagis> nothing can be recorded through microphone although I hear my own voice. any ideas?
[15:42] <codemagician> I hear that 12.04 LTS server will have Python 2.7, but can I get a early test release to try out to begin porting apps?
[15:42] <BluesKaj> bhara,  it's already installed if it came up when you typed alsamixer in the terminal , the factoid in the info-bot is obviously missing
[15:42] <auronandace> bhara: just alsamixer
[15:43] <theadmin> codemagician: Yes, but that's not supported here. Go to #ubuntu+1 to find out how to get Precise.
[15:43] <xukun> ok I can now mount my /dev/mapper/root /mnt. how can I install lvm and grub now?
[15:43] <del_> Hello everyone.  I had a question about Grub boot loader.  I was trying to change the boot loader options, and installed Startup-Manager, but it didn't work.  So, I uninstalled that, and installed Grub Customizer.  Tried to do the same thing, and it didn't work…  What could it be that I'm doing wrong?
[15:43] <codemagician> theadmin: thanks :)
[15:43] <bhara> Boss, aurinandace, Blueskaj,
[15:44] <auronandace> !grub | del_
[15:44] <bhara> what i type in terminal
[15:44] <bhara> relly i am not get
[15:44] <auronandace> bhara: alsamixer
[15:44] <theadmin> codemagician: But I'd rather consider porting to Python3 since sooner or later everyone'll have to switch to that.
[15:44] <BluesKaj> bhara,  hang on , I'll find the info url
[15:44] <xukun> guys please anybody?
[15:44] <bhara> thanx
[15:45] <auronandace> bhara: show us a screenshot of it
[15:45] <codemagician> theadmin: I use a mysql package and I haven't yet seen it ported to 3
[15:45] <del_> aurondace:  i am pretty sure I have grub on the ubuntu box.  all the files seem to be there.
[15:45] <BluesKaj> bhara,  http://www.alsa-project.org/main/index.php/Main_Page
[15:45] <del_> aurondace:  like grub.cfg and whatnot… but when i open that file, it says don't edit it directly...
[15:45] <ActionParsnip> del_: if you run:  sudo update-grub    it should be smooth
[15:46] <del_> that's why i was trying to use these other programs
[15:46] <auronandace> del_: you wanted to know about options, the grub documentation that ubottu linked you too has quite a bit of info
[15:46] <ActionParsnip> del_: no, you don't edit it. What do you want to achieve?
[15:46] <scanuks> ActionParsnip: hey remember me
[15:46] <ActionParsnip> scanuks: probably not
[15:46] <del_> actionparsnip:  my brother uses the computer too, so i wanted it to default to Windows 7...
[15:46] <freeroute> xukun: what are you having trouble with?
[15:46] <scanuks> ActionParsnip: im the one with the LUBUNTU screen problem
[15:46] <ActionParsnip> del_: why did't you just say that. I know a command
[15:46] <scanuks> ActionParsnip: i think lubuntu added openbox manager to LXDE
[15:47] <auronandace> del_: grub.cfg is generated by other stuff, the ones you edit are either /etc/default/grub or the files in /etc/grub.d/
[15:47] <del_> actionparsnip:  so i tried to change that using those two other programs, and did the sudo update-grub bit, too… but it didn't work.
[15:47] <ActionParsnip> del_: you don't need programs
[15:47] <ActionParsnip> del_: sudo mv /etc/grub.d/30_os-prober /etc/grub.d/09_os-prober; sudo update-grub
[15:47] <ActionParsnip> del_: its that simple...
[15:48] <del_> actionparsnip:  well, i installed ubuntu yesterday, and when i looked at the instructions for grub, they seemed overwhelming!
[15:48] <ActionParsnip> del_: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1309890    has it all.
[15:48] <auronandace> ActionParsnip: it would be better to change the default value in /etc/default/grub
[15:48] <ActionParsnip> del_: the command I gave will sort you. If you just say what you want to achieve we can advise faster
[15:49] <Kartagis> nothing can be recorded through microphone although I hear my own voice. any ideas?
[15:49] <ActionParsnip> auronandace: I find it simpler to change the order, plus new kernels will be managed
[15:49] <del_> action parsnip, auronandace:  let me read through the forums you just sent me.  i don't want to run the command without understanding it a little better!
[15:49] <ActionParsnip> del_: all you said is 'boot loader options' which can be a lot of things
[15:49] <auronandace> ActionParsnip: i get a feeling that doing it that way would break stuff when doing an upgrade (good thing i only fresh install)
[15:50] <del_> actionparsnip:  i simply meant to make Grub load windows 7, instead of ubuntu by default.
[15:50] <Dante_Kelly> http://fapower.caster.fm --- PLease like my radio..
[15:50] <xukun> freeroute, thanks m8 I think I found it. Iḿ going to reboot it to test, bb in sec
[15:50] <ActionParsnip> auronandace: break what, the numbers of the files simply dictate where they appear in the menu, so change the numbers only changes that
[15:50] <llutz> Dante_Kelly: stop  spamming"
[15:50] <holstein> Kartagis: sometimes pavucontrol can be helpful, also make sure you have the device choosen properly in whatever application you are trying to record into
[15:50] <auronandace> del_: then the file you edit is /etc/default/grub
[15:50] <Dante_Kelly> like my radio then :D
[15:51] <Dante_Kelly> please
[15:51] <Dante_Kelly> :D
[15:51] <ActionParsnip> Dante_Kelly: its offtopic here
[15:51] <holstein> Dante_Kelly: this is not that kind of channel.. thanks for your enthusiasm though
[15:51] <llutz> Dante_Kelly: stop  spamming! go else where
[15:51] <ActionParsnip> Dante_Kelly: and not appreciated
[15:51] <del_> auronandace:  ok, i'm not at that computer right now, but i'll make a note to edit that one this afternoon...
[15:51] <Kartagis> holstein: the funny thing is, the mic also is a no-show in sound properties
[15:51] <bhara> http://happylife.in/Screensh.png
[15:51] <Dante_Kelly> then... whats the topic?
[15:51] <Dante_Kelly> :D
[15:51] <holstein> Kartagis: i wouldnt expect it to "show"... nor would i trust any labels... i would try alsamixer in the terminal as well
[15:51] <ActionParsnip> Dante_Kelly: Ubuntu support, you will have seen that when you joined the channel
[15:52] <theadmin> Dante_Kelly: It's the Ubuntu support channel.
[15:52] <bhara> auronaNdace:
[15:52] <bhara> i updated
[15:52] <auronandace> bhara: good, that means they are not muted
[15:52] <Dante_Kelly> is there anything good about ubuntu?
[15:52] <auronandace> !topic | Dante_Kelly
[15:52] <ActionParsnip> Dante_Kelly: its a solid open source OS with a great community
[15:52] <Kartagis> holstein: pavucontrol doesn't show it either. alsamixer has it enabled, but I can't get it to work
[15:53] <auronandace> Dante_Kelly: you can stop trolling now
[15:53] <holstein> Kartagis: well, you cant get it routed to whatever application you havent mentioned... you say its working?
[15:53] <del_> actionparsnip:  there's a debate on the forum you sent me about whether that's a good command to use - the mv /etc/grub.d/30_os-prober /etc/grub.d/09_os-prober
[15:54] <Kartagis> holstein: well, I hear my own voice when I talk into it
[15:54] <del_> actionparsnip:  is that the cleanest way to do it?
[15:54] <ActionParsnip> del_: the number of the file dictates its position in the boot loader, so naming the file will push the ubuntu kernels to the bottom
[15:54] <jrzabott> Hello everybody... can anyone help me?
[15:54] <jrzabott> I'm trying to install unity 5.0... but after add the PPA, nothing happened... update, upgrade, dist-upgrade... reboot and all again...
[15:54] <bhara> aurinandacE: what to do now
[15:54] <jrzabott> nothing happened...
[15:54] <ActionParsnip> del_: yes its the easiest and cleanest in my opinion
[15:54] <holstein> Kartagis: OK.. so its working then... its just a matter of routing it... what application are you trying to record with? audacity?
[15:54] <auronandace> del_: the cleanest way is to edit the correct file, like the grub documentation says: /etc/default/grub
[15:55] <llutz> del_:  it is, because if you just change /etc/default/grub it won't work after a kernel-update with a new subversion-number
[15:55] <theadmin> jrzabott: We don't support ppas here. The PPA might not have packages for your Ubuntu version, that's all I can say.
[15:55] <holstein> jrzabott: just look where ever you manage packages and see what version you are using
[15:55] <Kartagis> holstein: I'm originally trying to use it with skype
[15:55] <jrzabott> Ok... sorry... thanks all of you... any tips where I can find some help?
[15:55] <ActionParsnip> jrzabott: then you have a later or the same version as is offered by the ppa
[15:55] <holstein> jrzabott: the PPA maintainer
[15:55] <_Marcus> I'm trying to install Ubuntu, and it's getting from Ubuntu's site, yet I can't connect no matter where I get it from(any country)
[15:55] <xangua> jrzabott: the ppa has only packages for oneiric, both oneiric and unity5 not supported here ;)
[15:56] <theadmin> _Marcus: Use the torrent xD
[15:56] <bhara> aurinandce:
[15:56] <ActionParsnip> oneiric is supported here
[15:56] <_Marcus> theadmin: It's Ubuntu minimal.
[15:56] <auronandace> !tab | bhara
[15:56] <xangua> i mean pangolin ups :/
[15:56] <theadmin> _Marcus: Ah, hm.
[15:56] <del_> actionparsnip, auronandace, llutz:  i'm going to go to the ubuntu computer and be back in a bit. thank you.
[15:56] <jrzabott> i'm using oneiric....
[15:56] <bhara> i am waiting for your resp. plz update
[15:56] <xangua> jrzabott: i mean pangolin*
[15:56] <jrzabott> just for information. :)
[15:56] <auronandace> bhara: sorry, i don't know what to suggest to you
[15:56] <xangua> jrzabott: anyways that ppa is not for oneiric
[15:57] <jrzabott> xangua: ok, ok...
[15:57] <bhara> its ok thx
[15:57] <bhara> but u thing, mic installed already
[15:57] <jrzabott> i'll google again. :S
[15:57] <jrzabott> thx everybody. :D
[15:58] <ActionParsnip> bhara: what is the output of:  wget -O alsa-info.sh http://www.alsa-project.org/alsa-info.sh && chmod +x ./alsa-info.sh && ./alsa-info.sh
[16:00] <theadmin> _Marcus: Here, I re-uploaded it for you: http://dl.dropbox.com/u/2012912/ubuntu-minimal-oneiric-i686.iso
[16:00] <_Marcus> theadmin: Okay
[16:00] <_Marcus> theadmin: Thanks
[16:01] <theadmin> _Marcus: Tell me once the download is done, I don't need it in my Dropbox lol
[16:01] <bhara> teActionParsnip: tell me command let chk in terminal and update u
[16:01] <pushpop> When I leave my computer idle for a period of time my gnome-shell uses 90-100% cpu.  I'm running 3.2.1 with a 9800gtx with the most current nvidia-current drivers.  ANy idea's?
[16:01] <pushpop> I simple run "r" which fixes the issue
[16:02] <_Marcus> theadmin: Downloaded, thanks!
[16:02] <mneptok> pushpop: top/htop/some other system monitor
[16:02] <theadmin> _Marcus: Very well then, removing
[16:02] <pushpop> mneptok, yes thats how I found out it was eating cpu?
[16:03] <ActionParsnip> pushpop: can you pastebin the output of:  lsb_release -a; uname -a; dpkg -l | grep nvidia        Thanks
[16:03] <bhara> what i click u post, it showINg some script in the FF
[16:03] <ActionParsnip> bhara: I gave the command, its the last thing I gave to you..
[16:03] <ActionParsnip> bhara: its not a post, its a command
[16:03] <pushpop> ActionParsnip, http://pastebin.com/mGFAgPCn
[16:03] <ActionParsnip> bhara: READ the line, rather than assuming it is a link
[16:04] <ActionParsnip> pushpop: you are using a PPA to get the driver, we cannot support that here
[16:05] <mneptok> pushpop: and it's the gnome-shell process itself eating CPU?
[16:05] <BluesKaj> bhara,  open alsamixer , F5 and look for mic input , depends on the soundcard how it's named , make sure the ctl is turned up and no MM in the box, use the M key to unmute
[16:05] <pushpop> mneptok, yes
[16:05] <pushpop> ActionParsnip, should I remove and re-download from stock PPA?
[16:05] <theadmin> pushpop: Are you using an AMD video card? gnome-shell doesn't quite like those
[16:06] <pushpop> theadmin, no nvidia 9800gtx
[16:06] <theadmin> pushpop: Ah, hm, okay
[16:06] <mneptok> pushpop: try the nvidia drivers provided in official repos, or the nouveau driver.
[16:06] <auronandace> pushpop: no such thing as stock PPA
[16:07] <pushpop> mneptok, I tried the drives in the official repos.  I had the same problem
[16:07] <pushpop> thats why I tried the newest which was in the PPA I added
[16:07] <mneptok> pushpop: see if the open source nouveau driver exhibits the same problems
[16:08] <mneptok> pushpop: mind you, i am not an nvidia user, so my experience is from textbooks.
[16:08] <pushpop> One thing I should mention, I use two monitors
[16:09] <cry> ciao
[16:09] <ActionParsnip> pushpop: up to you
[16:09] <cry> !list
[16:10] <ActionParsnip> pushpop: could try installing xfce4   see if it happens there too
[16:11] <_Marcus> What is 12.04 going to be called?
[16:11] <theadmin> _Marcus: Precise Pangolin
[16:11] <ActionParsnip> !precise
[16:11] <theadmin> _Marcus: Further questions and support in #ubuntu+1
[16:11] <theadmin> pangolin: Uh, sorry for triggering your nickname
[16:11] <_Marcus> theadmin: Thanks
[16:11] <mneptok> theadmin: support is in this channel, and codename questions are not !ot
[16:12] <theadmin> mneptok: Support for Precise is in #ubuntu+1 , not here. Just talking about it. And I answered the codename question, so heh
[16:12] <acicula> scanuks: did reinstalling fix the problem?
[16:12] <Taneb> Hello!
[16:12] <Taneb> I'm having a problem with a microphone
[16:12] <scanuks> acicula: yup
[16:13] <acicula> scanuks: great :)
[16:13] <ActionParsnip> Taneb: what is the problem?
[16:13] <Taneb> It's not working
[16:13] <scanuks> acicula: your the one that said the openbox should not be in lubuntu ?
[16:13] <Taneb> No sound is coming into it
[16:13] <Taneb> I'm on 10.04
[16:13] <ActionParsnip> Taneb: can you give the output of: wget -O alsa-info.sh http://www.alsa-project.org/alsa-info.sh && chmod +x ./alsa-info.sh && ./alsa-info.sh
[16:14] <Taneb> http://www.alsa-project.org/db/?f=7c9a4149c492ccef947a8f6a21666933bbc4d2a5
[16:14] <scanuks> !he | Qazjap11
[16:14] <burnt> anyone here familiar with 2 monitor ubuntu usage?
[16:14] <ba> hey! is BTRFS is going to be default FS with 12.04?
[16:14] <acicula> scanuks: no i did not say that
[16:14] <acicula> !info openbox
[16:14] <scanuks> acicula: oh , kk
[16:15] <ba> !info ltsp
[16:15] <scanuks> acicula: its installed in lubuntu by defualt ?
[16:15] <acicula> scanuks: if its in ubuntu its in lubuntu, remember that the l in your lubuntu just means there is a different graphics shell. the system is otherwise exactly the same
[16:15] <ba> !info ltsp-build-client
[16:15] <theadmin> ba: Unlikely. Most likely we'll keep using ext filesystems, ext4 specifically.
[16:15] <scanuks> acicula: yeppz
[16:16] <ba> theadmin, but it will be added as an option? (I mean not a default)
[16:16] <scanuks> acicula: ur using lubuntu ?
[16:16] <acicula> scanuks: i dont know, but you can install it using the software center otherwise. Though openbox i am guesing is a pretty minimal windowmanager
[16:16] <mneptok> theadmin: "we?"
[16:16] <theadmin> ba: Ah, that might be. I think the installer already has that in case you are using the Advanced Partitioning option
[16:16] <theadmin> mneptok: Meh... sorry for the phrasing xD
[16:16] <Taneb> ActionParsnip, http://www.alsa-project.org/db/?f=7c9a4149c492ccef947a8f6a21666933bbc4d2a5
[16:16] <theadmin> mneptok: "the ubuntu team" is kinda long
[16:16] <scanuks> acicula: i already have it this built in
[16:16] <theadmin> mneptok: Don't be nitpicky, please?
[16:17] <theadmin> mneptok: I know I ain't no part of the team but
[16:17] <_Marcus> Hm. Is it possible to run an operating system from a flash drive?
[16:17] <acicula> scanuks: no i dont use lubuntu, i only use ubuntu-server these days
[16:17] <theadmin> _Marcus: Certainly.
[16:17] <theadmin> _Marcus: I do that xD
[16:17] <ba> theadmin, thank you!
[16:17] <scanuks> acicula: so whats ur desktop os ?
[16:17] <_Marcus> theadmin: I tried it on my Mac, but it didn't work well.
[16:17] <acicula> scanuks: osx lion
[16:17] <mneptok> theadmin: please /join #ubuntu-ops
[16:18] <freeroute> _Marcus: just watch out that once installed, the software is configured for your hardware, so if you take it and use it on an AMD CPU while it's configured for an Intel one, it might not work
[16:18] <del_> back!
[16:18] <ActionParsnip> Taneb: try:    sudo add-apt-repository ppa:ubuntu-audio-dev/ppa; sudo add-apt-repository ppa:team-iquik/alsa; sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get dist-upgrade; killall pulseaudio; rm -r ~/.pulse*
[16:18] <_Marcus> freeroute: I don't have any AMD CPUs, and it will only run on this computer.
[16:18] <del_> actionparsnip:  so now i'm at the ubuntu box, and i'm in the grub.d directory...
[16:18] <yusufaliboz> hi, I'm installing ubuntu 11.10 via using Windows 7. Ubuntu 11.04 is not supported to my wi-fi card. is 10.10 support?
[16:19] <ActionParsnip> del_: sudo mv /etc/grub.d/30_os-prober /etc/grub.d/09_os-prober; sudo update-grub           you can run it from any directory
[16:19] <superdave321> what is the process of getting ubuntu on a usb drive to boot on a mac?
[16:19] <freeroute> _Marcus: also, USB flash drives have lower read/write speeds than traditional HDD's, and in effect, traditional HDD's have far lower read/write speeds than SSD's.
[16:19] <acicula> yusufaliboz: if its not supported by 11.04 then it wont be in 10.10 either. How do you know it is unsupported? or is it just not working for you atm
[16:19] <del_> my os-prober is named 10_os-prober
[16:19] <_Marcus> freeroute: How much slower?
[16:19] <ActionParsnip> superdave321: use unetbootin with an md5 tested ISO
[16:19] <ActionParsnip> del_: change the 10 for 90
[16:20] <superdave321> ActionParsnip: gonna need some explination...
[16:20] <navex_> hi
[16:20] <freeroute> _Marcus: depends, 7200rpm drives are usually around 50mb/s write
[16:20] <navex_> anybddy
[16:20] <scanuks> acicula: how can i make lubuntu 11.10 faster by disabling stuff or change etc .. ?
[16:20] <del_> actionparsnip:  why 10 to 90?  don't i want os-prober to be earlier for windows 7 to be default?
[16:20] <Taneb> ActionParsnip, can't hear anything now
[16:20] <acicula> scanuks: you have an atom netbook with 1GB ram or something?
[16:21] <scanuks> acicula: yep intel atom cpu 1.6ghz and 1gb ram
[16:21] <_Marcus> freeroute: How do I see how fast my USB writes? It's 2.0
[16:22] <acicula> scanuks: uhm, lubuntu is a good start. do not install software that adds extra systeam deamons like databases and webservers. You could try and use Chrome for browsing, should be a bit easier on memory consumption
[16:22] <Taneb> Ooh, sound!
[16:22] <freeroute> _Marcus: usually the ideal speed of USB 2.0 is 480mbit/s duplex, meaning that you would have around 30mb/s read/write
[16:22] <acicula> chrome or chromium even, firefox is a bit of a hog
[16:23] <_Marcus> freeroute: So not much of a difference?
[16:23] <ActionParsnip> del_: so it moves the ubuntu kernels to the bottom, this will make windows the top
[16:23] <scanuks> acicula: i already have chromium , whats the difference between chrome and chromium in ubuntu
[16:23] <freeroute> _Marcus: you could try dd'ing something to the drive and back, are you familiar with the dd command?
[16:23] <scanuks> acicula: its not the same ?
[16:23] <acicula> scanuks: you can check your memory use by typing free -m in a console
[16:23] <ActionParsnip> Taneb: yes, you killed the sound process, so obviously yo will get no sound
[16:23] <_Marcus> freeroute: Nope
[16:24] <ActionParsnip> Taneb: your system isnt as fast as you may think it is
[16:24] <Taneb> ActionParsnip, Youtube works now
[16:24] <del_> actionparsnip:  sorry, i'm trying to understand - aren't the windows entries contained in os-prober?  if i rename that 90, it'll be at the bottom...
[16:24] <Taneb> ActionParsnip, mic... still not working?
[16:24] <acicula> scanuks: its mostly the same, Chrome is the browser as released by google, chromium is the browser built from the open source portions of chrome.
[16:24] <scanuks> acicula: oh i see
[16:24] <f0gn0l0> hi all, when i plug my usb bluetooth adapter this error popups:Failed to set bluetooth power The error reported is: The name org.bluez was not provided by any .service files . On windows, the adaper works. Can someone help me please?
[16:25] <ActionParsnip> del_: you are getting the idea, if you shove osprober to th bottom it should be ok
[16:25] <acicula> scanuks: http://code.google.com/p/chromium/wiki/ChromiumBrowserVsGoogleChrome
[16:25] <Taneb> Skype seems to have crashed
[16:25] <xangua> acicula: scanuks more like chrome is based on chomium with is 100% free/libre
[16:25] <del_> actionparsnip:  but i want windows 7 to be the default...
[16:25] <freeroute> _Marcus: it's basically a very early and rudimentary tool to copy files from place to place, see http://www.linuxjournal.com/article/1320 and man dd for example
[16:25] <del_> actionparsnip:  so, wouldn't i want to make it like 01_os-prober?
[16:26] <freeroute> _Marcus: basic usage is like this: dd if=<location of input file> of=<location of output file>
[16:26] <_Marcus> freeroute: OH! I've used it before for making a pad file for something.
[16:26] <freeroute> _Marcus: without the <> of course, but watch out since dd can easily wipe data on the location if done incorrectly
[16:26] <ActionParsnip> del_: try it, you can always boot back to ubuntu to re-edit, just remember what number it used to be
[16:26] <theadmin> acicula: Quite the opposite. Chrome is *based* on the Chromium project, and Chromium is quite the original. Chrome (or more correctly, Google Chrome) is what Google made for the binary release. You can see that from the "About Google Chrome" page: http://imm.io/gp1s
[16:26] <jiltdil> Hi please tell me chanel for virtual box oracle?
[16:27] <Taneb> ActionParsnip, microphone still doesn't work
[16:27] <freeroute> _Marcus: for example, dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/sda wipes your whole drive with zeroes ;)
[16:27] <del_> actionparsnip:  well, i'm wondering why it didn't work when i tried doing this through grub-customizer
[16:27] <melvincv> GRUB scripts are confusing... why can't I just edit grub.cfg like I used to edit menu.lst?
[16:27] <theadmin> jiltdil: #vbox
[16:27] <jiltdil> theadmin, Thanks
[16:28] <_Marcus> freeroute: So if I want to fill it with random stuff making it untracable, I just do /dev/urandom?
[16:28] <del_> actionparsnip:  the only things i have in the directory above os-prober are 00_header and 05_debian_theme then it's 10_os-prober
[16:28] <ActionParsnip> Taneb: try:   echo "options snd-hda-codec-realtek index=-2" | sudo tee -a /etc/modprbe.d/alsa-base.conf
[16:28] <del_> so i thought that would have re-ordered it right there.
[16:28] <freeroute> _Marcus: in essence yes, but it's faster to do with /dev/zero and it makes sure data is unrecoverable
[16:28] <acicula> scanuks: the atom netbooks will also accept 2gb sodimms, they are cheap as chips if you can find one. Should speed things up quite a bit
[16:28] <_Marcus> freeroute: Ah. Isn't /dev/zero just blank spaces?
[16:28] <ActionParsnip> del_: all I know is to shove osprober to the bottom, try it
[16:29] <Taneb> ActionParsnip, tee: /etc/modprbe.d/alsa-base.conf: No such file or directory
[16:29] <ActionParsnip> Taneb: /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base.conf           sorry, typo
[16:29] <theadmin> melvincv: That's nothing to do with Grub, that's an Ubuntu thing (update-grub will keep overwriting grub.cfg with each kernel upgrade), please look into /etc/default/grub and /etc/grub.d/
[16:29] <f0gn0l0> when i plug my usb bluetooth adapter this error popups:Failed to set bluetooth power The error reported is: The name org.bluez was not provided by any .service files . On windows, the adaper works. Can someone help me please?
[16:30] <del_> actionparsnip:  ok, going to re-boot and see if it worked.
[16:30] <Taneb> options snd-hda-codec-realtek index=-2
[16:30] <ActionParsnip> melvincv: you can but as soon as you run: update-grub   your efforts will be undone
[16:30] <ActionParsnip> Taneb: yes but it is also added to the file, reboot to test
[16:30] <Taneb> Okay, bye!¬
[16:31] <theadmin> melvincv: ^ What ActionParsnip said. And that's ran with each kernel/grub update so it's... problematic heh
[16:31] <|Anthony|> is there any way to reload a pointer theme without logging out and back in?
[16:31] <scanuks> acicula: whats that sodimms ?
[16:31] <acicula> scanuks: the type of memory in the netbook
[16:32] <acicula> or physical format even
[16:32] <ActionParsnip> melvincv: if you modify grub properly, not only will boot options be applied properly to each kernel but will be added to all kernels in the future. Much simpler
[16:32] <scanuks> acicula: oh so atom cpu is good ?
[16:32] <del_> actionparsnip:  back.  it didn't work.  it's like grub ignored all the changes.
[16:32] <ActionParsnip> del_: did you run:  sudo update-grub    after making the change?
[16:32] <del_> actionparsnip:  i did.
[16:33] <acicula> scanuks: idk, i had an atom 1.6 for awhile and it was dreadfully slow.
[16:33] <ActionParsnip> del_: did you rename osprober to 90?
[16:33] <tyler> hey guys, i'm new to ubuntu. i just successfully installed photoshop cs5 with wine, now i need to install dreamweaver. could anybody help me out here? the photoshop installer was modified so you didn't need wine tricks, but the dreamweaver installer didn't work.
[16:33] <nicofs> My netbook just lust the wireless connection and tells me "wireless is disabled by hardware switch." - i don't have one. any ideas?
[16:33] <theadmin> tyler: Please go to #winehq -- we don't support Windows apps here.
[16:33] <theadmin> Bah!
[16:33] <scanuks> acicula: bleh, damn u asus
[16:33] <theadmin> mneptok: Did it again lol sorry
[16:33] <tyler> ahh, ok.. i only downloaded the ubuntu server. ^_^
[16:33] <acicula> scanuks: really depends on how you use it, its ok to play some videos and a bit of browsing/typing, just dont expect to much
[16:34] <nicofs> i meant "lost"...
[16:34] <theadmin> tyler: Server? Why are you running wine on the server edition? That hardly makes sense
[16:34] <Taneb> ActionParsnip, thank you!
[16:34] <scanuks> acicula: lol yeh , like it named NETbook .. only for internet
[16:34] <del_> actionparsnip: i named it 41_os-prober
[16:34] <ActionParsnip> Taneb: there are bugs all over for this....
[16:34] <del_> it's the last one in the grub.d directory.
[16:35] <tyler> no, i do not have #winehq server.. only #ubuntu
[16:35] <ActionParsnip> del_: another way: http://saji89.wordpress.com/2010/02/01/how-to-make-windows-the-defaultfirst-entry-in-your-grub2-menu/
[16:35] <konam> hi guys
[16:35] <scanuks> acicula: maybe i should try http://chromeos.hexxeh.net/lime.php ?
[16:35] <theadmin> tyler: Err... you need to type "/join #winehq" (without quotes). You'll also need to register, likely.
[16:36] <theadmin> scanuks: Eh don't try that, that's hardly stable at all
[16:36] <konam> i'd like to disable the software center for the installation of individual packages. i generally avoid the software center completely and use synaptic or aptitude for package searching
[16:36] <scanuks> theadmin: what u mean ? it crashes ?
[16:37] <theadmin> konam: sudo apt-get remove software-center && sudo apt-get install gdebi
[16:37] <ActionParsnip> konam: if you associate deb files with what you desire, it will work. If you use aptitude then you won't see the GUI app anyhoo
[16:37] <theadmin> scanuks: Yes. Also not supported here (this channel only supports Ubuntu distros)
[16:37] <scanuks> theadmin: i know im just asking
[16:38] <acicula> scanuks: i dont know
[16:38] <del_> actionparsnip:  what i'm saying is grub appears to be ignoring my changes to grub.d...
[16:38] <konam> theadmin ActionParsnip thanks guys, i think gdebi is my guy :)
[16:38] <del_> actionparsnip:  i'll do it again... let's see.
[16:38] <theadmin> konam: gdebi is a CLI+GUI tool for installing individual deb packages
[16:38] <ActionParsnip> del_: it will, until you run:   sudo update-grub    to apply the changes and generate grub.conf
[16:38] <theadmin> konam: Use gdebi-core if you want CLI only
[16:39] <konam> theadmin yeah, i want the graphical one, it used to be the default one
[16:39] <theadmin> konam: True, I have no idea why they had to change that
[16:39] <konam> for some reason they decided to overkill it with for individual packages
[16:39] <Guest23888> hello
[16:39] <Guest23888> can someone help me with my Ubuntu install?
[16:39] <theadmin> Guest23888: You should just ask the question
[16:39] <konam> Guest23888 what do you need to know
[16:40] <del_> actionparsnip:  it seems to be updating menu.lst, not grub.cfg.  how come?
[16:40] <Guest23888> okay, I'm about to completely wipe my system and reinstall dual boot windows 7 and ubuntu, is there an order that I should follow?
[16:40] <ActionParsnip> del_: you need to install Grub2, sounds like you upgraded from a release with grub legacy
[16:40] <Gentoo64> Guest23888: install windows first
[16:40] <daan4711> Hi, I would like to use 2 keyboards with both different keyboard layouts. I am able to do this by typing "setxkbmap -device 9 us". Then the external keyboard uses another layout. The problem is: when i reboot my computer of replug in my external keyboard, the layout is reverted to the original one. Is there a way to run this command at every plugin?
[16:40] <acicula> Guest23888: yup, do windows first, and then install ubuntu
[16:40] <acicula> !dualboot | Guest23888
[16:40] <del_> actionparsnip:  no, i installed this fresh yesterday, ubuntu 11.10!
[16:40] <ActionParsnip> Guest23888: install Windows but leave some space unpartitioned, then install ubuntu to the free space
[16:41] <ActionParsnip> del_: that uses Grub2 by default
[16:41] <cola_> i switched to fglrx drivers and now my dual monitor worn towk
[16:41] <cola_> i switched to fglrx drivers and now my dual monitor wont work
[16:41] <del_> actionparsnip:  okay.  so why would sudo update-grub be updating menu.lst instead?
[16:41] <Guest23888> okay, and previous installs of Ubuntu have given me problems, mainly complete system locks due to NVIDIA I think, does that problem still persist?
[16:41] <ActionParsnip> Guest23888: the default install will want to use 100% space, if you manually partition WIndows and leave space unpartitioned you will not have to resize it later
[16:42] <Gentoo64> Guest23888: nvidia is normally quiet solid
[16:42] <ActionParsnip> del_: not sure dude, can you give a pastebin of the output of:   cat /etc/lsb-release; uname -a
[16:42] <mongy> del_: what does sudo update-grub2 do
[16:42] <ActionParsnip> Guest23888: never had an nvidia issue.
[16:42] <Guest23888> good to hear, I'm not sure what the problem was back when I was with Ubuntu originally, I think X was locking up
[16:42] <del_> actionparsnip:  what's a pastebin?  i'm literally a newb with this stuff.
[16:43] <Guest23888> well, I have two hard drives, one for Ubuntu, one for Windows, should it be pretty simple to allocate one for each install?
[16:43] <ActionParsnip> del_: its a way to show a LOT of text without flooding the channel, you can make one easier with:  sudo apt-get install pastebinit; clear; pastebinit /etc/lsb-release
[16:44] <Gentoo64> Guest23888: do you want to choose them from grub, or choose the hdd to boot from on startup
[16:44] <ActionParsnip> del_: pastebinit is a handy pastebin file for CLI, the command will make a URL, what is the URL
[16:44] <ActionParsnip> Guest23888: sure, install Ubuntu to the 2nd drive if you wish, or you could have both OSes on one drive and keep all user data on the other
[16:44] <Guest23888> I think I'd just like to select the OS before booting up
[16:45] <nicofs> My netbook tells me "wireless disabled by hardware switch." but there is none - and now i am unable to connect to any wireless network as there is none on display... any ideas?
[16:45] <Guest23888> I think that means grub
[16:45] <ActionParsnip> Guest23888: remember WIndows cannot read Ext4 but ubuntu can read and write to NTFS
[16:45] <del_> actionparsnip:  http://paste.ubuntu.com/839269/
[16:45] <ActionParsnip> nicofs: sudo rfkill unblock all
[16:45] <del_> mongy:  when i tried to sudo update-grub2 it didn't work.
[16:46] <theadmin> nicofs: Maybe disabled in BIOS?
[16:46] <del_> mongy:  it said command not found
[16:46] <ActionParsnip> del_: if its a clean install it will use grub2, if you run:  sudo apt-get --reinstall install grub-pc     does it help?
[16:46] <nicofs> ActionParsnip, should that have any significant effect...?
[16:46] <chrislustic> Can anyone help me with installling dreamweaver ?
[16:46] <del_> actionparsnip:  lets see
[16:46] <nicofs> theadmin, seconds ago i was connected...
[16:46] <ActionParsnip> nicofs: it may activate the device, so yes
[16:46] <theadmin> nicofs: Oh, huh.
[16:47] <nicofs> ActionParsnip, no effect...
[16:47] <ActionParsnip> nicofs: you haven't told use the make and model of netbook yet...what is it?
[16:47] <Guest23888> okay, thanks for all your help so far, last question: is there any certain way I can completely wipe my system or will the Windows install disc do that for me? I don't want any remnants of anything left on the drives
[16:47] <_Marcus> My Ubuntu installation wont move from the 6% it's at. It says "Retrieving coreutils".
[16:47] <nicofs> ActionParsnip, theadmin : it's an acer aspire one 532
[16:47] <ActionParsnip> Guest23888: the installers will do that for you
[16:47] <del_> actionparsnip:  the package configuration options are up.  what should i do, "install package maintainer's version" ?
[16:47] <ActionParsnip> nicofs: why was that not in your initial question?
[16:48] <Guest23888> thanks for your help everyone
[16:48] <ActionParsnip> del_: which file is in question?
[16:48] <nicofs> ActionParsnip, what exactly was not in my initial question?
[16:48] <del_> actionparsnip:  i just ran the thing you told me to update / reinstall grub
[16:48] <ActionParsnip> nicofs: the make and model of the system..
[16:48] <ActionParsnip> del_: yes but which file is the installer wanting to replace.
[16:49] <del_> actionparsnip: /etc/default/grub
[16:49] <ActionParsnip> nicofs: look above yor F2 key, little wireless symbol?
[16:49] <ActionParsnip> del_: then install the maintainers
[16:49] <nicofs> ActionParsnip, punched that a dozen times so far...
[16:49] <del_> actionparsnip: ok did it.
[16:50] <ActionParsnip> nicofs: try hitting it once then run:  sudo iwlist scan
[16:50] <del_> now i'll just re-do everything i did before.
[16:50] <ActionParsnip> del_: shouldn't do
[16:50] <mibr001> hello i have a acer aspire 5520 runnning 11.10 i want to create a shortcut on my desktop that allows me to quickly switch the current display from single monitor
[16:50] <mibr001> /etc/X11/single.conf as config
[16:50] <mibr001> dual monitor external to left
[16:50] <mibr001> /etc/X11/ext-left.conf
[16:50] <mibr001> dual monitor external to right
[16:50] <mibr001> /etc/X11/ext-right.conf
[16:50] <FloodBot1> mibr001: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[16:51] <del_> actionparsnip:  what do you mean shouldn't do?
[16:51] <nicofs> ActionParsnip, "Interface doesn't support scanning : Network is down"
[16:51] <ActionParsnip> del_: the config files in grub.d shouldn't be touched
[16:51] <Kruge> hi
[16:51] <yusufaliboz> hi :) I'm in the Ubuntu 11.10 :)
[16:51] <del_> actionparsnip:  they weren't.  i just re-ran sudo update-grub
[16:51] <ActionParsnip> nicofs: ok try unloading then reloading the driver module. Did you y any chance just wake up from suspend?
[16:51] <del_> going to re-boot.  lets see what happens.
[16:51] <Kruge> Anyone know what happened to the "scsiadd" package in 11.10 please?
[16:51] <yusufaliboz> Ubuntu 11.10 supporting my wireless card..
[16:52] <ActionParsnip> mibr001: you'll need a script to take an input then copy the file over then restart X
[16:52] <nicofs> ActionParsnip, the system was suspended - but not recently. I know that a reboot will fix the issue - but i've gotten tired of having to randomly reboot...
[16:53] <nicofs> ActionParsnip, how do i unload the driver?
[16:54] <ActionParsnip> nicofs: sudo modprobe -r nameofmodule
[16:54] <yusufaliboz> how can i install eclipse to my ubuntu?
[16:54] <boba88> hi is the ubuntu 11.10 amd64 only for amd processor compatible, and if yes what installer should i use to install 64 bit version on an Intel cpu
[16:54] <ActionParsnip> nicofs: you can then reload it with:  sudo modprobe nameofmodule
[16:54] <del_> actionparsnip:  the re-install worked!
[16:54] <ActionParsnip> boba88: it will work on intel 64bit too
[16:54] <nicofs> ActionParsnip, let me be more precise - how do i find out, how the driver is called?
[16:54] <ActionParsnip> del_: sweet
[16:54] <kroonrs> yusufaliboz: go to the software centre and search for eclipse
[16:55] <xangua> boba88: amd64 is just a generic name for 64bit
[16:55] <nicofs> ActionParsnip, lsmod?
[16:55] <ActionParsnip> nicofs: sudo lshw -C network      and read
[16:55] <mibr001> i'm trying to create a text file that will run in terminal when clicked changing the current display profile to those saved here /etc/X11/single.conf for only my laptop display, here /etc/X11/ext-left.conf for my laptop display + my external display to the left, and here /etc/X11/ext-left.conf for my laptop display + external diaplay to the right
[16:55] <boba88> ActionParsnip: the thing is it does not want to boot from the CD
[16:55] <ActionParsnip> nicofs: close, lshw tells you the driver for the specific hardware :)
[16:55] <jjohnson> i an using ubuntu via usb stick from live iso and persistance storage but im wanting to change the desktop manager from unity to something else, is that possible? im not seeing xfce4 or gnome-session-fallback as options in apt-get
[16:55] <ActionParsnip> boba88: what happens when you try?
[16:55] <del_> actionparsnip:  what is the best ubuntu IRC client?  i am using Xchat right now - but i keep typing people's names to respond... would prefer something with cleaner cut, paste, respond... or are there commands in xchat to do that more easily?
[16:56] <nicofs> ActionParsnip, output is "PCI (sysfs)" that doesn't sound right...
[16:56] <del_> actionparsnip:  thanks, btw!
[16:56] <yusufaliboz> kroonrs: ubuntu's GUI is very beautiful really..
[16:56] <_Marcus> The Ubuntu minimal installer is horrible. Is there another installer I could try?
[16:56] <ActionParsnip> del_: np man
[16:56] <boba88> ActionParsnip: i already burned the iso and tried to boot from the cd but it does not boot
[16:56] <mibr001> nvidia xserver settings is horrible
[16:56] <ActionParsnip> boba88: doesn't answer my question
[16:56] <ActionParsnip> _Marcus: its a text installer, its not supposed to be pretty
[16:57] <ActionParsnip> _Marcus: you think you can get a full X server and drivers into 12Mb....
[16:57] <nicofs> ActionParsnip, ok, found it... ath9k sounds better
[16:57] <_Marcus> ActionParsnip: The text thing isn't what bothers me, it's really quite nice.
[16:57] <ActionParsnip> _Marcus: then which bit is 'horrible' the text installer is all it is..
[16:57] <_Marcus> ActionParsnip: I keep freezing up at some spots.
[16:57] <boba88> ActionParsnip: what should i try? i did not understand too
[16:58] <ActionParsnip> nicofs: some wifi chips don't like hibernating, so you need to unload and reload the driver to make it work
[16:58] <del_> actionparsnip:  so any opinion on best ubuntu irc client?
[16:58] <ActionParsnip> boba88: what happens when you try to boot the CD?
[16:58] <yusufaliboz> how can i change my speakers settings?
[16:58] <ActionParsnip> del_: pidgin imho. works well
[16:58] <nicofs> ActionParsnip, still the same... disabled by hardware switch
[16:58] <_Marcus> ActionParsnip: It froze at coreutils and I had to restart the installation.
[16:58] <boba88> ActionParsnip: i tried it only hangs for a while and it does manage to boot
[16:58] <ActionParsnip> nicofs: try restarting the networking service too
[16:59] <ActionParsnip> boba88: so a black screen then>?
[16:59] <kroonrs> yusufaliboz: try the icon of a speaker in the top right
[16:59] <boba88> ActionParsnip: yes
[16:59] <del_> actionparsnip:  thanks!
[16:59] <ActionParsnip> boba88: why not say that then??
[16:59] <ActionParsnip> del_: np man
[16:59] <mibr001> what terminal command will replace the current file /etc/x11/ext-left.conf to /etc/x11/single.conf
[17:00] <boba88> ActionParsnip: i mentioned that i tried that above
[17:00] <ActionParsnip> boba88: what GPU do you use?
[17:00] <yusufaliboz> kroonrs:  why sound is bad?
[17:00] <Chipzzz> del_: irssi is one of the more popular irc clients and the favorite of many
[17:00] <nicofs> ActionParsnip, that would be as in "service networking stop"?
[17:00] <ActionParsnip> mibr001: sudo cp  /etc/x11/ext-left.conf /etc/x11/single.conf        will copy  /etc/x11/ext-left.conf to /etc/x11/single.conf
[17:00] <kroonrs> yusufaliboz: I don't understand your question
[17:01] <craynerd> I know this is a long shot and totally off topic but anyone in here use solidworks?
[17:01] <del_> chipzzz:  i'll check that one out too.  still in complete newb stage.
[17:01] <ActionParsnip> nicofs:  sudo service networking stop
[17:01] <_Marcus> I wish I knew how to use solidworks :P
[17:01] <gizmobay> Can you do a rdp connection from windows 7 to 11.10 or is only to go from 11.10 to Win7?
[17:01] <boba88> nvidia GTX 8080 as far as i remember
[17:01] <ActionParsnip> boba88: add the boot option:  nouveau.blacklist=1
[17:01] <craynerd> _Marcus so do I !!
[17:01] <boba88> ActionParsnip: nvidia GTX 8080 as far as i remember
[17:01] <nicofs> ActionParsnip, returns "stop: Unknown instance:" - and start gives "networking stop/waiting"
[17:01] <ActionParsnip> boba88: got it :)
[17:02] <boba88> ActionParsnip: what is that?
[17:02] <Chipzzz> del_: it runs in a terminal and is very secure... noobs seem to gravitate toward xchat, though
[17:02] <ActionParsnip> nicofs: ok then start networking
[17:02] <boba88> ActionParsnip: how can i set it like that
[17:02] <ActionParsnip> boba88: its a boot option, some nvidia chips don't like the nouveau driver
[17:02] <ActionParsnip> !bootoptions | boba88
[17:02] <mibr001> actionparsnip: thanks
[17:03] <yusufaliboz> kroonrs:  normally my speakers gives very good sound already beats :) (in Windows 7). but now I'm in Ubuntu 11.10 and sound is very bad really.. what can i do for as windows 7 sounds?
[17:03] <nicofs> ActionParsnip, returns "networking stop/waiting" - but has no effect on my connection...
[17:03] <boba88> ActionParsnip: i should set this in my bios?
[17:03] <del_> chipzzz:  i'll take a look at both irssi and pidgn
[17:03] <ActionParsnip> nicofs: its something like that
[17:04] <ActionParsnip> boba88: no, its an option on the kernel. Not the BIOS
[17:04] <Chipzzz> del_: enjoy :-)
[17:04] <anderson> someone knows why i can't upgrade 8.04 to 10.04.3 correctly? ever same error: dbus msg
[17:04] <del_> ok going to install new apps!  thanks all!
[17:05] <urlin2u> anderson, 8.04 is end of life
[17:05] <boba88> ActionParsnip: how do i set that ?
[17:05] <anderson> :(
[17:05] <|Anthony|> is there any way to reload a pointer theme without logging out and back in?
[17:05] <Chipzzz> anderson: i think you have to do an intermediate upgrade to 9.x... wouldn't swear to it though
[17:06] <anderson> how can i do it, Chipzzz?
[17:06] <ActionParsnip> boba88: its all i that guide, thats why it exists. We got lots of people asking so the guide saves us having to repeat the same stuff
[17:06] <boba88> ActionParsnip: ok will have a look at it :)
[17:06] <zgr> is there up to date ppa for stable chromium?
[17:06] <mr_os> hello Room
[17:07] <ActionParsnip> zgr: https://launchpad.net/~chromium-daily/+archive/stable
[17:07] <infernal> Hello.
[17:07] <Chipzzz> anderson: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LucidUpgrades
[17:07] <ActionParsnip> zgr: took me, what, 30 seconds to find....
[17:07] <zgr> ActionParsnip: good, but it's not up to date
[17:08] <mr_os> Suddenly my USB hard drive stoped mounting in ubuntu . its still mountable in windows. ( i remember mounting some virtual iso in /media/office2007 and then rm /media/office2007)
[17:08] <ActionParsnip> zgr: thats the stable version, I suggest you go for the daily build
[17:08] <mr_os> Can anyone please help  me get my USB hard drive back in ubuntu?
[17:08] <infernal> I'm a new Linux user. Can anyone help me wrap my head around this thing?
[17:08] <mr_os> what thing infernal?
[17:08] <nicofs> ActionParsnip, i think by now i restarted anything even remotely connected to networking... to no avail...
[17:08] <Chipzzz> anderson: evidently you can go straight to 10.04
[17:09] <zgr> ActionParsnip: latest daily build is date 5 weeks ago...
[17:09] <zgr> d*
[17:09] <kop> ActionParsnip, tnx again for the Btooth help . eventually we got it to pair , I sent the nfo off to launchpad last week . Now on to two way audio w/o Puss/Awful :-)
[17:09] <anderson> but it doesn't work, Chipzzz
[17:09] <cloudgeek> how can i mapped to my 127.0.0.1:8000 to 192.168.1.2:8000
[17:09] <ActionParsnip> zgr: contact the maintainer then
[17:09] <Chipzzz> anderson: what went wronggggg?
[17:09] <anderson> around 22 min to end of installation
[17:10] <iceroot> cloudgeek: why you want that?
[17:10] <infernal> Just the basics. I set up Bumblebee on my laptop. Now i want to edit grub, so i could increase battery life. The problem is i cant seem to execute the commands.
[17:10] <urlin2u> Chipzzz, hardy is eol.
[17:10] <anderson> many kill process
[17:10] <iceroot> cloudgeek: that are totally different networks
[17:10] <urlin2u> the desktop is anyway
[17:10] <mr_os> infernal why cant u execute commands?
[17:10] <mr_os> try running this command uname -a
[17:10] <anderson> i use updater manage
[17:11] <anderson> *i used
[17:11] <cloudgeek> iceroot: now my django website is ruuning on 127.0.0.1:8000 i want that on my internal IP same 192.168.1.2.:8000
[17:11] <infernal> Acordin to the terminal or the text editor i dont have the permision. Altough i use sudo + password
[17:11] <Chipzzz> urlin2u: would that prevent an upgrade from hardy to lucid?
[17:11] <mibr001> i'm trying to create executable text files that will change my display configuration from one to another i've tried everything with a gui it wont work so instead of runnig terminal commands maually to change them i want a text file to do it for me. can someone help me?
[17:11] <|Anthony|> is there any way to reload a mouse pointer theme without logging out and back in?
[17:11] <iceroot> cloudgeek: tell your apache to listen on 192.168.1.2
[17:11] <iceroot> cloudgeek: which should be the default
[17:11] <CTtechguy> has anyone found a method to fix the issue on resume from suspend on 12.10?
[17:11] <urlin2u> !eol | Chipzzz
[17:12] <iceroot> CTtechguy: there is no 12.10
[17:12] <cloudgeek> iceroot: i changed that some , i am some new let me check
[17:12] <CTtechguy> has anyone found a method to fix the issue on resume from suspend on 11.10?
[17:12] <|Anthony|> mibr001, make a bash script containing the commands you use at terminal
[17:12] <CTtechguy> sorry typo
[17:12] <ActionParsnip> CTtechguy: precise support in #ubuntu+1
[17:12] <urlin2u> CTtechguy, the #ubnuntu+1 channel is your destination for that info and help. :)
[17:13] <infernal> mr_os: Excuse me you still here?
[17:13] <CTtechguy> thank you!
[17:13] <mr_os> yes infernal
[17:13] <iceroot> CTtechguy: no this channel is correct
[17:13] <mibr001> thats what i was wondering, what commands would i put in that bash script
[17:13] <nicofs> ActionParsnip, gotta go now, thanks anyway...
[17:14] <iceroot> CTtechguy: #ubuntu+1 is fpr 12.04, everything else goes here
[17:14] <Chipzzz> urlin2u: even those pages say you can upgrade from an eol to a current version
[17:14] <infernal> mr_os: Srry also a tad new to the irc seen. Like i sead i use sudo to try and edit grub, but it gives me errors.
[17:14] <CTtechguy> iceroot: ok actually running lubuntu 11.04
[17:14] <mr_os> copy paste your command and error here
[17:14] <urlin2u> Chipzzz, right and until I shared this with you, youhad no clue and were not helping.
[17:15] <ActionParsnip> CTtechguy: what is the issue when you wake up from resume/
[17:15] <cloudgeek> iceroot: plz help what need to chnage there to map that
[17:15] <ActionParsnip> hibernate
[17:15] <infernal> mr_os: (gedit:4767): Gtk-WARNING **: Attempting to store changes into `/root/.local/share/recently-used.xbel', but failed: Failed to create file '/root/.local/share/recently-used.xbel.3FTV9V': No such file or directory
[17:15] <infernal> (gedit:4767): Gtk-WARNING **: Attempting to set the permissions of `/root/.local/share/recently-used.xbel', but failed: No such file or directory
[17:15] <CTtechguy> my screen is blank and the video does not resume
[17:15] <Chipzzz> anderson: what state is the machine in now?... booting, bricked...?
[17:15] <mr_os> try using : sudo gedit grub
[17:15] <mr_os> infernal try using : sudo gedit grub
[17:15] <anderson> running
[17:15] <anderson> 8.04
[17:15] <ActionParsnip> mr_os: gksudo for gedit
[17:16] <mr_os> oh yeh gksudo works as well
[17:16] <urlin2u> Chipzzz, I did not say at any point it could not be I staed eol.
[17:16] <urlin2u> stated
[17:16] <Chipzzz> anderson: cool... I'd go with following the instructions either on the page i linked before or else this one: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EOLUpgrades
[17:16] <mr_os> ActionParsip can u help me with my not detecatable usb? ActionParsnip>
[17:16] <mr_os> ActionParsip can u help me with my not detecatable usb? ActionParsnip
[17:16] <infernal> mr_os: it opened an empty file named grub at /home.infernal/
[17:16] <infernal> mr_os: it opened an empty file named grub at /home/infernal/
[17:17] <ActionParsnip> mr_os: usb what?
[17:17] <kop>  mkdir /root/.local/share/recently-used.xbel  chmod 755 /root/.local/share/recently-used.xbel not very secure , sloppy and yet effective
[17:17] <Chipzzz> urlin2u: sorry, i must have misunderstood what you were trying to tell me
[17:17] <mr_os> Suddenly my USB hard drive stoped mounting in ubuntu . its still mountable in windows. ( i remember mounting some virtual iso in /media/office2007 and then rm /media/office2007)
[17:17] <urlin2u> Chipzzz, I do that all the time. :)
[17:17] <anderson> ok, i gonna take a look
[17:17] <CTtechguy> ActionParsnip: I have been trying to fix this for a couple weeks....everything I tried has not worked
[17:17] <Chipzzz> urlin2u: lol ;-)
[17:17] <anderson> thx
[17:18] <Chipzzz> anderson: good luck :-)
[17:18] <mr_os> infernal are u sure you are editing the right file? sudo find / -type f -print |grep -i grub
[17:18] <infernal> mr_os: After a while it a similiar error with minor differences (gedit:4783) and ... -used.xbel.9DCF9V if that makes a difference
[17:19] <urlin2u> mr_os, you have the usb in fstab for auto mounting
[17:19] <mr_os> furlin2u no usb not shown there as well
[17:19] <nug700> hello?
[17:20] <urlin2u> mr_os, so ikt will just not mount when plugged in or clicked on if showing?
[17:20] <ActionParsnip> CTtechguy: maybe but I don't know what the issue is, which is what I asked....
[17:21] <mr_os> urlin2u not mouted, not shown in etc/fstab . detected in windows
[17:21] <CTtechguy> ActionParsnip: When I close the lid on my laptop is goes into suspend but when I open the lid all I get is a blank screen and no video
[17:21] <nug700> I installed ubuntu 11.10 yestarday... I'm having a bit of trouble configuring my graphic settings.
[17:21] <ActionParsnip> CTtechguy: what GPU do you use?
[17:21] <urlin2u> mr_os, does it show in a sudo fdisk -l
[17:21] <krosswindz> I was wondering if I could get some help with regards to compiling Python 2.6.7 on hardy
[17:22] <Andrew131> i keep getting "usb 1-4: reset high speed USB device number 3 using ehci_hcd" and then any process that tries to do anything with my external hard drive gets blocked and unresponsive.  Anyone seen this before?
[17:22] <urlin2u> mr-os if it is a ntfs might need a chkdsk or something gparted will give you some info if it shows.
[17:22] <krosswindz> Andrew131: it could be a dying drive
[17:22] <infernal> mr_os: Using that common gives a large list, what am i to do with it? Personally i was following this tutorial step 4. Intel device tweaks http://www.ivegotavirus.com/blog/2011/11/06/how-to-get-optimus-working-on-ubuntu-11-10-oneiric/
[17:22] <CTtechguy> ActionParsnip:  nVidia Corporation NV31 [Quadro FX Go700]
[17:22] <benjib> Hi, was wondering if someone could help with an automount problem on 11.10
[17:22] <luis_> Hi everibody could to recomended a radio aplication to xubuntu ?
[17:23] <mibr001> anybody up to the task of writing a bash script for me? i have no background knowledge with them and i dont want to learn how bad i am at it today.
[17:23] <Andrew131> Could it be anything else?  The drive seems to work fine when connected to other ubuntu's
[17:23] <mr_os> urlin2u not sure output is same when I check without usb
[17:23] <nug700> So, I installed ubuntu 11, updated my Nvidia drivers to the current version, but for some reason, it isn't detecting my second monitor.
[17:23] <urlin2u> benjib, probably you have to outline the pe\problem though.
[17:23] <Chipzzz> mibr001: a script to do what?
[17:23] <Andrew131> Its driving me nuts enough to actually just remove the drive and  put it in the box
[17:24] <mibr001> chipzzz:change my display configuration
[17:24] <benjib> Sure.. the problem is that I can see my prtitions fine using gparted etc, but the automounting of the drives doesn't happen
[17:24] <benjib> I always need to mount them manually
[17:24] <anderson> Chipzzz: how can i boot ubuntu 11 in usb flashdrive? from this version, 8.04?
[17:24] <mr_os> infernal what is the output of ls -lrt /etc/default/grub
[17:24] <benjib> My wife is getting frustrated!
[17:24] <Seryth> Any ncmpcpp users here? I'm having trouble setting it up...it's not reading my music, even though the ~/.ncmpcpp file points to where my music collection is (/media/Elements/Music/)
[17:24] <urlin2u> mr_os, the usb would show a  drive other then the ones showing such as sdb or sdc depending on how many disc you have plugged in or on the computer.
[17:24] <urlin2u> as /a
[17:24] <_Marcus> benjib: Oh? What's the problem you are having with Ubuntu
[17:24] <mr_os> urlin2u not sure output is same when I check without usb in sudo fdisk -l
[17:25] <Chipzzz> mibr001: sounds like more of a project than i can do today, sorry
[17:25] <mr_os> infernal what is the output of ls -lrt /etc/default/grub ??
[17:25] <Somelauw> Does anyone know a script that makes a screenshot of my screen and posts it on a website like imageschack, tinypic, etc?
[17:25] <coreyf1513> can anyone suggest a way to control the userid/groupid created by the installer (1000 conflicts with my network setup).  i'm using lili to create a usb installer of ubuntu desktop 11.10 amd64.
[17:25] <infernal> mr_os: -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 1237 2012-02-12 17:25 /etc/default/grub
[17:25] <urlin2u> mr_os, look in gparted or the disk utility then
[17:25] <luis_> Hola ¿Hablan español?
[17:25] <Chipzzz> anderson: does your machine boot from usb?
[17:25] <benjib> I have checked the automount settings using dconf and they're set to true, so I don't know why usb drives aren't mounted automatically
[17:26] <mibr001> if it makes it any easier i already have the .conf files i just have to swap one for another and make the new one work
[17:26] <monohedron> Somelauw, shutter ?
[17:26] <Seryth> monohedron: Shutter is a screenshot program
[17:26] <Somelauw> monohedron: maybe, does it upload?
[17:26] <anderson> Chipzzz: nope. its already installed. but i want install now the latest version... directly
[17:26] <benjib> Can anyone suggest something to check?
[17:26] <monohedron> Seryth, yes but it has upload capability build in
[17:26] <Chipzzz> mibr001: oh, that's pretty easy...
[17:27] <anderson> Chipzzz: more easy, i wondering...
[17:27] <nug700> Ok, I installed ubuntu 11 yestarday, updated my NVIDIA drivers to the current version. but for some reason, now it isn't detecting my second monitor... I'm also getting many other issues.
[17:27] <monohedron> Somelauw, , yes but it has upload capability build in
[17:27] <Seryth> monohedron: Ah, sorry, I thought you were asking what it is ;) I know, I use it all the time
[17:27] <urlin2u> benjib, are you just using automount with having them plugged in on powering on or added to fstab as well.
[17:27] <monohedron> Seryth, :)
[17:27] <mr_os> infernal  try to edit this file using vim editor use command : sudo vim /etc/default/grub
[17:27] <Random832> mr_os: should use sudoedit
[17:28] <Chipzzz> anderson: why not just save your home directory (including hidden files), do a fresh install, and replace the home directory?
[17:28] <benjib> urlin2u : Plugging them in after logging into the desktop. They're not added to fstab.
[17:28] <anderson> Chipzzz: replace to new version?
[17:28] <mr_os> yes sudoedit is also one good editor
[17:28] <anderson> Chipzzz: does it work?
[17:29] <ActionParsnip> !info sudoedit
[17:29] <anderson> s
[17:29] <urlin2u> benjib, so you look in home to see if there showing in the left panel?
[17:29] <infernal> mr_os: it seas command vim is not found, is Vi Iproved the editor?
[17:29] <urlin2u> have*
[17:29] <benjib> Yeah, they don't show.
[17:29] <mr_os> yes use vi
[17:29] <mibr001> there are three i'm using /etc/x11/ext-left.conf right now and i want to be able to switch to /etc/x11/ext-right.conf or /etc/x11/single.conf by clicking
[17:29] <_Marcus> !sudoedit
[17:29] <boba88> ActionParsnip: one thing regarding the boot options i thing this after I have selected the option to boot from the cd ...
[17:29] <mr_os> or use sudoedit
[17:29] <urlin2u> benjib, which release are you running?
[17:30] <benjib> 11.10 32 bit
[17:30] <anderson> Chipzzz: mmm, seems much risk envolved
[17:30] <nug700> Ok, I installed ubuntu 11 yestarday, updated my NVIDIA drivers to the current version. but for some reason, now it isn't detecting my second monitor... I'm also getting many other issues.
[17:30] <mibr001> Chipzzz:there are three i'm using /etc/x11/ext-left.conf right now and i want to be able to switch to /etc/x11/ext-right.conf or /etc/x11/single.conf by clicking
[17:30] <Chipzzz> anderson: yes... pretty much all your configuration settings are in your home directory... copy that into a fresh install, apt-get the packages, and they'll come up with the old settings
[17:30] <boba88> ActionParsnip: and i do not have the chance to select this option because  it hangs with a black screen and then boots from hd
[17:30] <urlin2u> benjib, look in the disk utility to see if they show there.
[17:31] <boba88> ActionParsnip: if i put a different boot cd for something else it gives the option to choose boot from the cd
[17:31] <benjib> urlin2u, they do show up in gparted, and I can see them using fdisk
[17:31] <nug700> . . .
[17:31] <benjib> urlin2u, I can mount the drives manually, but I need them to automatically mount!
[17:31] <ActionParsnip> !nomodeset | boba88 use this but use the boot option I gave
[17:31] <theadmin> benjib: Add them to fstab?
[17:31] <nug700> Going here was just a complete WAIST OF TIME...
[17:32] <anderson> Chipzzz: but exist an way to do with flash drive? on 8.04?
[17:32] <benjib> But shouldn't they automatically get mounted and put in mtab by the system?
[17:32] <urlin2u> benjib, sounds like needed adjustment in gconf probably.
[17:32] <Chipzzz> mibr001: why don't you make three launchers that say "sudo cp /etc/x11/ext-whatever /etc/x11/xorg.conf" and you'll be done... it doesn't even need a script
[17:32] <ericus> Do you think that this is a hardware error? http://dl.dropbox.com/u/4375930/fail.jpg
[17:32] <benjib> theadmin, they should automatically mount without the need for that
[17:32] <benjib> ulin2u, possible, but I've checked the automount setting using dconf and it is set to on
[17:32] <boba88> ubottu: thanks
[17:33] <ericus> That happens from time to time, and when I close the lid and open it again it works perfect
[17:33] <nug700> -_-
[17:33] <benjib> urlin2u, possible, but I've checked the automount setting using dconf and it is set to on
[17:33] <urlin2u> benjib, sometimes I plugin a usb and it does not mount, rarely but it does happen.
[17:33] <ericus> If I take a print screen in that state, everything looks OK
[17:33] <anderson> Chipzzz: if i miss something, understand?
[17:33] <ericus> So I'm guessing my screen is failing on me?
[17:33] <benjib> urlin2u, yeah - I need to understand why though.
[17:33] <nug700> hello??
[17:34] <ActionParsnip> ericus: are there any bugs reported?
[17:34] <Chipzzz> anderson: i suggest a fresh install so that you can rearrange your hard drive in the process... if you create a partition for "/" and another for "/home", then next time you have to upgrade, you won't have to touch your home directory
[17:34] <infernal> mr_os: mr_os, using the sudo gedit /etc/default/grub i open a file that has the proper text in it (according to the tutorial) i want to change GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT="quiet splash" to GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT="quiet splash pcie_aspm=force i915.i915_enable_rc6=1 i915.i915_enable_fbc=1 i915.lvds_downclock=1" the problem i having is saving the file and updating grub, as it gives me the error when i make try to save the file
[17:34] <urlin2u> benjib, if they are ntfs partitions they might need a chkdsk or defragging hard to say completely, at least for me.
[17:34] <ActionParsnip> infernal: gksudo for GUI apps like gedit, not sudo
[17:34] <mibr001> Chipzzz: ill see  if i can get that working but when i tried it before it said cp: cannot stat `/etc/x11/ext-left.conf': No such file or directory
[17:34] <ericus> ActionParsnip: Not that I know of, this started to happen just now, today
[17:34] <benjib> urlin2u - they're just plain old fat32. And they also mount fine on my laptop (which is 11.10 as well)
[17:35] <yusufaliboz> how can i install java from ubuntu 11.10 ?
[17:35] <ActionParsnip> ericus: I'd check
[17:35] <nug700> XD
[17:35] <CTtechguy> ActionParsnip:  should I post my issue again in chat?
[17:35] <ActionParsnip> yusufaliboz: what is the output of:  uname -m
[17:35] <mibr001> and if i gksudo nautilus and look for the file it is there
[17:35] <ActionParsnip> CTtechguy: go for it
[17:35] <ericus> ActionParsnip: what would you call it? "Flickering screen"? or what?
[17:35] <Chipzzz> mibr001: you have to start the command with "gksudo cp ..." and set the launcher to run in a terminal window
[17:35] <yusufaliboz> yusufaliboz -m
[17:36] <nug700> Can I... please get some help...
[17:36] <ActionParsnip> yusufaliboz: no, uname -a    is a command, run it as given
[17:36] <ActionParsnip> nug700: ask and see
[17:36] <ericus> nug700: what's the problem?
[17:36] <yusufaliboz> where?
[17:36] <urlin2u> !help > nug700
[17:36] <nug700> I asked my question 3 times...
[17:36] <infernal> Il give it a reboot, it seems it may have worked.
[17:36] <Chipzzz> anderson: if i understand, the problem is that you don't have 10.04 on a disk from which you can install... is that right?
[17:36] <mibr001> i typed sudo cp /etc.
[17:37] <nug700> Ok, I installed ubuntu 11 yestarday, updated my NVIDIA drivers to the current version. but for some reason, now it isn't detecting my second monitor... I'm also getting many other issues.
[17:37] <yusufaliboz> ActionParsnip:  where?
[17:37] <ActionParsnip> yusufaliboz: in a terminal
[17:37] <ikonia> nug700: did you update them from nvidia.com /
[17:37] <CTtechguy> Has anyone run into this issue on lubuntu 11.10? - when I close the lid on my laptop is goes into suspend but when I open the lid all I get is a blank screen and no video
[17:37] <boba88> ubottu: again i think you did not understand me well, I am not able to boot from the cd at all... and the nomodest option is available once we have booted from the cd
[17:37] <nug700> I will list the commands I used in a sec
[17:37] <ikonia> nug700: don't need that
[17:37] <ActionParsnip> CTtechguy: are there any bugsreported? Do you have the latest BIOS?
[17:37] <ikonia> nug700: did you get the nvidia drivers from nvdia.com ?
[17:37] <urlin2u> CTtechguy, have you tapped a key to reinstate?
[17:38] <mibr001> i tried typing sudo cp /etc/x11/ext-left.conf /etc/x11/single.conf (same as xorg.conf) into terminal and thats what it said
[17:38] <nug700> No
[17:38] <nug700> I tried those before though
[17:38] <boba88> ActionParsnip: again i think you did not understand me well, I am not able to boot from the cd at all... and the nomodest option is available once we have booted from the cd
[17:38] <ikonia> nug700: where did you get them /
[17:38] <anderson> Chipzzz: yeah! ever i download using update manager i can't end the installation process...
[17:38] <CTtechguy> urlin2u: yep no response
[17:38] <nug700> sudo apt-add-repository ppa:ubuntu-x-swat/x-updates
[17:38] <nug700> sudo apt-get update
[17:38] <nug700> sudo apt-get install nvidia-current
[17:38] <CTtechguy> ActionParsnip: older laptop with the latest bios
[17:38] <urlin2u> CTtechguy, is your swap equal to your ram, this usually is for hibernate though.
[17:38] <ActionParsnip> boba88: its before the kernel starts to boot, you can apply bootoptions to the liveCD as it is before ANYTHING loads
[17:39] <ikonia> nug700: ok - a 3rd party PPA, that's not something that is supported
[17:39] <yusufaliboz> ActionParsnip:  Linux ubuntu 3.0.0-12-generic #20-Ubuntu SMP Fri Oct 7 14:56:25 UTC 2011 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux
[17:39] <anderson> Chipzzz: so i think if i install using a flash drive with 11.04 it will work better than refresh...
[17:39] <|Anthony|> what starts pointer services
[17:39] <ikonia> nug700: PPA's are made by people/groups that take ownership for the stability and support of their software
[17:39] <mibr001> ok i tried the gksudo no error... no change either what do i have to do to get it to change?
[17:39] <Andy80> I'm trying to watch this video http://video.repubblica.it/mondo/in-diretta-da-atene/87931/86324 but it says that I'm missing the mplayer plugin. I cannot find it in Ubuntu repositories. How can I install it? Is there any other plugin that substitute it? p.s: I'm using Chrome 17.x on Ubuntu 11.10
[17:39] <ikonia> !PPA > nug700
[17:39] <ActionParsnip> yusufaliboz: ok give me a sec
[17:39] <urlin2u> CTtechguy, eqaul at the least .
[17:39] <sidb> ActionParnsip: hey man... I need a little help with the bluetooth of my laptop...
[17:40] <nug700> Hopw do i uninstall them?
[17:40] <anderson> Chipzzz: i just want get the latest version
[17:40] <Chipzzz> anderson: because 8.04 is already eol, you can't upgrade using update manager anymore. The clean install is my suggestion... but i would advise setting up your hard drive as described before
[17:40] <ikonia> nug700: no idea, it depends what they change doing the install, this is part of the risk of using a PPA
[17:40] <urlin2u> sidb, addressing some one without be asked is not a good habiot.
[17:40] <yusufaliboz> ActionParsnip:  I'm waiting..
[17:40] <edgy> hi, can any one who knows english explain to me by reading the man page of exprtfs what's the difference between -a and -r
[17:40] <nug700> I just went online looking for a tutorial..
[17:40] <nug700> and found that
[17:41] <sidb>  i have installed Ubuntu-11.10 using Gnome-3 on an HP-G6-1219tu laptop. but i cannot use my bluetooth. gnome`s bluetooth manager says i have no bluetooth adapter found and blueman doesnt show anything. Please help.
[17:41] <Chipzzz> anderson: because that way your subsequent upgrades will be effortless
[17:41] <Steevca> I can't start any program with wine.What can be the problem?
[17:41] <ikonia> nug700: following random webpages isn't the best approach
[17:41] <ikonia> nug700: using official ubuntu resources is always the best method
[17:41] <sidb> urlin2u: sorry abt the delay in posting the querry... was looking for it from the history
[17:41] <ActionParsnip> yusufaliboz: if you had 32bit i'd have it read to rock but I'll tweak it for you :)
[17:41] <PoWeRKiL1> hi
[17:42] <PoWeRKiL1> I got an error 255 when I'm compiling my new kernel under ubuntu
[17:42] <ikonia> PoWeRKiL1: why are you compiling a kernel ?
[17:42] <nug700> Ok.. but I tried installing the official drivers.. I stoped lightdm, installed the drivers, but when I rebooted, it wouldn't boot up.
[17:42] <sidb> and i asked actionparnsip in particular as someone on this very irc suggested me to ask him abt my problem
[17:42] <urlin2u> sidb, I don't care it just looked like you were asking for help without being addressed if we know each other in the channel that is still shaky ground.
[17:42] <PoWeRKiL1> ikonia I have to compile specific driver for a device under kernel 3.0
[17:43] <ikonia> PoWeRKiL1: then you don't need to compile the kernel
[17:43] <anderson> Chipzzz: so if can't upgrade, why i just format? do you know? seems much more secure to me, because im very distractive and i just was made this process over than three times...
[17:43] <zykotick9> nug700: installing nvidia.com's official driver, is not the ubuntu "official" method for installing nvidia drivers...
[17:43] <PoWeRKiL1> ikonia yes I do I need kernel 3.0
[17:43] <ikonia> PoWeRKiL1: what version of ubuntu are you using ?
[17:43] <sidb> ok man chill. i got it. i am using irc for the first time.
[17:43] <nug700> Then.. what is?
[17:43] <anderson> *distracted
[17:43] <PoWeRKiL1> 11.04
[17:44] <ikonia> PoWeRKiL1: that comes with a 3.0 kernel doesn't it ?
[17:44] <sidb> So here is my querry again.  i have installed Ubuntu-11.10 using Gnome-3 on an HP-G6-1219tu laptop. but i cannot use my bluetooth. gnome`s bluetooth manager says i have no bluetooth adapter found and blueman doesnt show anything. Please help.
[17:44] <PoWeRKiL1> it's not
[17:44] <ikonia> !info linux-image natty
[17:44] <Chipzzz> anderson: will you lose any important data if you just reformat?
[17:44] <urlin2u> sidb, your attitude is not IRC friendly, good luck with that.
[17:44] <ikonia> PoWeRKiL1: what device needs a 3.0 kernel ?
[17:44] <Steevca> I can't start any program using wine.What can be the problem?
[17:44] <PoWeRKiL1> netup card
[17:44] <anderson> nope.
[17:45] <ikonia> PoWeRKiL1: which one (can you show me the model/external driver link)
[17:45] <anderson> Chipzzz: nothing... :)
[17:45] <Chipzzz> anderson: then that would be my suggestion
[17:45] <taylorchrome> hey ppl
[17:45] <u1329068659D5IIS> a
[17:45] <lolcat^> Hello
[17:45] <gartral> Here's a question for all Devs and iPod owners. The Newest Unity interface shows the battery level of the iPod under the power indicator. What protocol does the iPod use too communicate it's battery status?
[17:45] <ActionParsnip> yusufaliboz: http://paste.ubuntu.com/839357/
[17:45] <sidb> urlin2u ,my appologies. But i seriously need help here.
[17:46] <nug700> Ok, can I get some kind of tutorial on installing the GTx 500 series drivers plz?
[17:46] <lolcat^> Why can't I resize my ntfs partition?
[17:46] <anderson> Chipzzz: much better format, isn't it?
[17:46] <ikonia> nug700: your system may not be in a usable state now after using external software
[17:46] <PoWeRKiL1> ikonia http://www.netup.tv/en-EN/dual_dvb-t-c-ci_card.php
[17:46] <yusufaliboz> ActionParsnip:  okey. I'm reading..
[17:46] <nug700> I can just reformate, reinstall
[17:46] <Guest15931> ciaoo
[17:46] <taylorchrome> ok so, after using sudo apt-get install, and installation has completed where are the files located
[17:46] <urlin2u> sidb, cool but your problems are yours this channel has guidelines read them and don't let you needs outweigh common discourse within the guidelines. :)
[17:46] <Chipzzz> anderson: the newer versions of ubuntu are much better in many respects than 8.04 :-)
[17:47] <ikonia> PoWeRKiL1: one moment, just looking
[17:47] <drakalen> !pl
[17:48] <sidb> urlin2u, reading the guidelines...:) apologies again..
[17:48] <urlin2u> sidb, you have posted the problems somebody will probably help crack a drink and enjoy the ride. :)
[17:48] <PoWeRKiL1> ok ikonia
[17:48] <nug700> defing "not a usable state"
[17:48] <nug700> define*
[17:48] <ikonia> PoWeRKiL1: that git repo appears to contain a netup custom kernel tree
[17:48] <gartral> nug700: "Won't Boot" would be appropiate
[17:49] <ikonia> nug700: standard config changes may not work depending on what the 3rd party software has change
[17:49] <PoWeRKiL1> yes and I manage to compile it on debian once but I prefere ubuntu
[17:49] <anderson> Chipzzz: i know... so, how can i boot this version from a flash drive?
[17:49] <enigma> hello commonthoughts!
[17:49] <sidb> uelin2u, Should i post the problem again? As no one is replying here.
[17:49] <PoWeRKiL1> and I also follow this tutorial http://www.netup.tv/en-EN/articles/NetUP_Dual_DVB-TC_testreport.pdf
[17:49] <nug700> Can't I just reinstall ubuntu?
[17:49] <taylorchrome> there busy be patient
[17:49] <ikonia> PoWeRKiL1: it appears to be a custom kernel tree though
[17:49] <ikonia> nug700: sure
[17:49] <PoWeRKiL1> ikonia yes and ?
[17:49] <Chipzzz> sidb: try to be a little patient
[17:49] <anderson> Chipzzz: perhaps it doesn't have a way in a eol version
[17:50] <nug700> then... after I install ubuntu again... what would I do to install the "ubuntu official" drivers?
[17:50] <ikonia> PoWeRKiL1: well, netup would be the people who support their own product/custom kernel, not ubuntu
[17:50] <ikonia> !nvidia > nug700
[17:50] <ikonia> nug700: there is also info on https://help.ubuntu.com
[17:50] <nug700> thank you
[17:51] <taylorchrome> ok so, after using sudo apt-get install, and installation has completed where are the files located
[17:51] <ariana> /usr/bin
[17:51] <taylorchrome> ilooked there
[17:51] <Chipzzz> anderson: download the latest ubuntu from ubuntu.org and on the download page you will find directions for installation from a usb drive
[17:51] <taylorchrome> ill try again thougnh
[17:52] <ariana> taylorchrome, it is standard place for files, but might be different location
[17:52] <taylorchrome> ariana ok ill double check
[17:52] <Chipzzz> anderson: basically, you just write out the iso file to the usb drive, run a live usb version, and do an install from that
[17:53] <ericus> It must be a hardware failure when the screen on my netbook starts to glitch so bad that that it's not usuable, and when I close the lid and then open it again it works fine?
[17:53] <anderson> Chipzzz: but this version doesn't have startup disk creator
[17:53] <ActionParsnip> ericus: make sure you have the latest BIOS, if you don't need 3D accelleration you may want to stick with the opensource drive
[17:53] <ActionParsnip> r
[17:53] <zykotick9> taylorchrome: you can see where packages place files using "dpkg -S foo" replace foo with package name
[17:54] <ericus> ActionParsnip: thing is, I dropped the netbook on the floor yesterday...
[17:54] <ActionParsnip> ericus: ah
[17:54] <ericus> and also, if I press printscreen everything looks ok
[17:55] <Chipzzz> anderson: no problem... go here: http://www.ubuntu.com/download/ubuntu/download, download the file, go to the bottom of the page and click on "show me how", and you'll be all set :-)
[17:55] <ericus> ActionParsnip, I'm afraid that this is a HW failure
[17:55] <ericus> not sure though
[17:56] <naftilos76> hi, how can i extract via konsole text within specific html elements in a webpage?
[17:57] <monohedron> naftilos76, link and element
[17:58] <infernal> I have a tad random question, is it ok to just add any PPA?
[17:58] <naftilos76> monohedron: i will need a little bit more info than just this.
[17:59] <anderson> Chipzzz: ok! im downloading...
[17:59] <monohedron> naftilos76, send us the website and the element you want to extract so we can have alook whats required
[17:59] <theadmin> infernal: PPAs aren't really supported software -- they may have malware, broken packages etc.
[17:59] <Chipzzz> anderson: :-)
[17:59] <theadmin> infernal: They're by third parties
[17:59] <hetii> Hi
[18:00] <Chipzzz> naftilos76: you might better achieve your ends with wget and egrep
[18:00] <f0gn0l0> when i plug my usb bluetooth adapter this error popups:Failed to set bluetooth power The error reported is: The name org.bluez was not provided by any .service files . On windows, the adaper works. Can someone help me please?
[18:00] <hetii> I have a huge problem under ubuntu 11.10 server edition. I got always SIOCSIFFLAGS: Cannot assign requested address when i try assign more ipadress for my wan port
[18:00] <naftilos76> monohedron: i basically need to send an ip to http://whatismyipaddress.com/ip/xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx and get the info of city, country isp etc
[18:01] <taylorchrome> ariana, looked inside usr/bin, but there are so many exe files, and it was never specified what the package name was
[18:01] <monohedron> how about http://morsnowski.com/tools/ip.asp
[18:01] <naftilos76> monohedron: can you give me a hint on that?
[18:02] <monohedron> I'm afraid you'll have to do some scripting
[18:02] <infernal> theadmin: i see, this PPA is supposed to patch Maverick's 2.6.35 kernel, how do i find out if its sutoble for me? Im running 11.10
[18:02] <ikonia> infernal: strongly advise you not to use it
[18:02] <monohedron> and how do you intend to output it
[18:02] <urlin2u> naftilos76, that is not ubuntu support, and shady at best, smells of stalking.
[18:03] <Chipzzz> naftilos76: you can get the information from "whois" on the command line
[18:03] <theadmin> infernal: PPA's are unsupported here
[18:03] <taylorchrome> grr angry face =:(
[18:03] <naftilos76> urlin2u: i am going to do that with Ubuntu. Does that count?
[18:03] <ActionParsnip> infernal: itsnot then as you are running Oneiric..
[18:04] <urlin2u> naftilos76, NO.
[18:04] <hetii> when i use for my wan port netmask 255.255.255.248 then i`m able to set alias interface using netmask 255.255.255.240 but when i want to set all of them with mask 255.255.255.240 then agian had this error.
[18:04] <infernal> ActionParship: I'm srry but i dont get what you mean by that
[18:04] <hetii> so its look like the alias and the main interface need to have different subnet what is crazy :(
[18:04] <monohedron> naftilos76, do you want this displyed on the command line
[18:05] <monohedron> naftilos76, or in some program /
[18:05] <monohedron> ?
[18:06] <infernal> Well i take you advice, and stay away from the PPA, any suggestion on how further increase the battery life of my optimus laptop?
[18:06] <urlin2u> !ot > monohedron
[18:06] <ActionParsnip> infernal: maverick kernels are not suitable for Oneiric..
[18:07] <ActionParsnip> hetii: but of a small ranged mask dude.
[18:07] <infernal> ActionParsnip: I see, i'll keep googling.
[18:07] <hetii> ?
[18:08] <hetii> its work on old server just on this had now such issue
[18:08] <_Marcus> ActionParsnip
[18:08] <ActionParsnip> hetii: justa real restricted netmask, with few nodes in each network
[18:08] <hetii> btw i have 4 external ip from my ISP so mask 255.255.255.248 is ok i quess :)
[18:09] <hetii> ActionParsnip, ok so tell me with mask i should use when i got 4 ip ?
[18:09] <krasmussen> After upgrading to Firefox 11 on 10.04 it keeps crashing. My problem is the same as this guy: http://askubuntu.com/questions/100730/how-to-upgrade-to-glx-1-3-on-ubuntu-10-04 - does anyone have a clue how I can upgrade GLX to 1.3?
[18:09] <anderson> Chipzzz: one more question, this file, .iso, needs to be bootable archive, doesn't it?
[18:09] <ActionParsnip> hetii: you could use multiple masks,
[18:10] <_Marcus> In Ubuntu minimal installation, should I check "Virtual Machine host" since I am running this on Virtual Box
[18:10] <naftilos76> monohedron: i am using a bash script and i want to get info about an ip displayed in a konsole
[18:10] <mibr001> i have a acer aspire 5520 laptop with a nvidia geforce 7000m /nforce 610m, nvidia xserver settings is very glitchy with changing between single built in screen and dual clone, left of, and right of modes. ive tried evrything from bash shells to change the .config files themselves to simply using xserver settings but nothing works consistently please help me before i have a stroke
[18:10] <hetii> but i dont understand why i should use multiple mask when all of those ip should belong to one
[18:11] <ActionParsnip> _Marcus: no, virtualbox host is to be installed if you want to host virtalbox VMs on the system
[18:11] <_Marcus> ActionParsnip: No, I am running Ubuntu on a virtual machine
[18:11] <naftilos76> monohedron: i suppose it can be done with wget and sed but don't know how
[18:11] <_Marcus> ActionParsnip: Not install them on there
[18:12] <ActionParsnip> _Marcus: you don't need it unless the system is going to host VMs of its own
[18:12] <_Marcus> ActionParsnip: Okay.
[18:13] <Chipzzz> anderson: take a look here: http://www.ubuntu.com/download/ubuntu/download. They show you in 4 steps how to download, make a bootable usb, run the live usb, and install it to your hard disk. Pix and text show you everything you need to know :-)
[18:13] <mibr001> Chipzzz: i tried what you told me.. still no cigarre
[18:14] <Chipzzz> mibr001: when you clicked the launcher, did it ask you for your password?
[18:15] <mibr001> no
[18:15] <anderson> Chipzzz: then i found, or i not found, something... as i was wrote, this version haven't startup disk creator... so i can't do a bootable disk...
[18:16] <rpg32> any webcam experts out there?
[18:16] <ActionParsnip> rpg32: does it work in cheese?
[18:16] <mudkip> om
[18:16] <rpg32> it is a Logitech, Inc. QuickCam Messenger Plus
[18:17] <rpg32> it works with camorama but not cheese
[18:17] <massimo_> ciao
[18:18] <Chipzzz> anderson: do you have UNetbootin?
[18:18] <rpg32> also doesn't work in skype
[18:19] <ActionParsnip> rpg32: run:  lsusb   then use the 8 character hex ID to find guides / bug reports
[18:20] <Jak2000> hi all
[18:20] <rpg32> k
[18:21] <anderson> Chipzzz: not, i guess...
[18:22] <mikem94590> Question: The 3.2.5 kernel seems to be available (http://kernel.ubuntu.com/~kernel-ppa/mainline/v3.2.5-precise/) for Precise, but I'm on Oneiric
[18:22] <Chipzzz> anderson: try this: "sudo apt-get install usb-creator-gtk"
[18:22] <yusufaliboz> how can i change DNS adresS?
[18:22] <mikem94590> Is there a reason that one cannot use it on Oneiric?
[18:24] <anderson> Chipzzz: i haven't the package
[18:24] <anderson> Chipzzz: where i get that package?
[18:25] <benqjcevil2010> hi people
[18:25] <Chipzzz> anderson: it should be in your repos... checking
[18:25] <zykotick9> anderson: IF you are using a gnu/linux client to make the USB, you can just cat the ISO to the device.
[18:26] <anderson> Chipzzz: is it just past .iso archive?
[18:26] <anderson> i gnu/linux client
[18:26] <anderson> *i'm
[18:27] <Chipzzz> anderson: info about getting usb-creator: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1635782
[18:27] <zykotick9> anderson: the newest ubuntu iso are hybrid, meaing you can just use something like "sudo cat UBUNTU.iso > /dev/sdX" where X is the USB drive letter, don't use a partition number (sdd for example, not sdd1)
[18:28] <andrey> help
[18:28] <andrey> please
[18:28] <Chipzzz> zykotick9: isn't there a problem making it bootable if you do it that way?
[18:28] <zykotick9> Chipzzz: nope
[18:29] <Chipzzz> problem solved :-)
[18:29] <anderson> Chipzzz: ok, wait a minute, plz :)
[18:29] <zykotick9> Chipzzz: it has to be a ubuntu 11.10 iso, it won't work for the old ones
[18:29] <_Marcus> My Ubuntu installation has been sitting in the same spot for the last 10 - 15 minutes.
[18:30] <Chipzzz> anderson: don't worry, i'm not going anywhere ;-)
[18:30] <auronandace> zykotick9: i didn't realise you could do it with cat, i thought it was dd
[18:30] <zykotick9> auronandace: dd would work too, but cat is what the debian instructions use (where the hybridiso stuff came from)
[18:30] <anderson> Chipzzz: permission denied
[18:30] <anderson> Chipzzz: :/
[18:31] <auronandace> zykotick9: as in sudo dd if=/path/to/iso of=/dev/sdx
[18:31] <llutz> anderson: cat foo.iso|sudo tee /dev/sdd
[18:31] <Chipzzz> anderson: what permission?
[18:31] <zykotick9> auronandace: looks correct
[18:31] <anderson> Chipzzz: i dont know
[18:31] <auronandace> zykotick9: cool, thanks for the info
[18:31] <Chipzzz> anderson: what did you type that gave you the message?
[18:31] <llutz> zykotick9: cat/echo redirection > won't work with sudo
[18:32] <Chipzzz> zykotick9: i thank you also :-)
[18:32] <anderson> Chipzzz: "sudo cat UBUNTU.iso > /dev/sdANDERSON"
[18:32] <zykotick9> llutz: doh!  good point.
[18:32] <auronandace> llutz: ah, i thought there was a reason for using dd
[18:32] <zykotick9> llutz: actually i thought it was pipes where that was an issue
[18:33] <darrenlooby> What's a FloodBot?
[18:33] <llutz> zykotick9: pipes would work :)
[18:33] <zykotick9> llutz: no, pipes | is what sudo won't cross
[18:33] <zykotick9> llutz: thus the tee requirement
[18:33] <thevaliantx> i just bought a cd (Casting Crowns) and would like to be able to play the music, but mplayer can't open the files (.wav type).  what gives?  i would like to convert those .wav files to .mp3 format.
[18:33] <Chipzzz> anderson: do it in three commands: first "sudo -i", then "cat UBUNTU.iso > /dev/sdANDERSON", then "exit"
[18:34] <llutz> Chipzzz: easiest way :)
[18:34] <Chipzzz> ;-)
[18:34] <heikki_> hi. how can i play the audio on speakers that i get in using bluetooth (blueman)
[18:35] <rymate1234> thevaliantx: try banshee of vlc
[18:35] <_Marcus> What the hell? "Installation failed". It said the failed step was "Select and install software" when I installed NO software form the list.
[18:35] <anderson> Chipzz: i usually needs to put "ubuntu-11.10-desktop-i386.iso"? tha label of archive...
[18:36] <|Anthony|> how do i determine what mouse driver i'm using? ubuntu 10.04
[18:36] <_Marcus> Would it hurt the system if I just skipped to the next step?
[18:36] <ikonia> |Anthony|: there isn't a "mouse driver"
[18:36] <|Anthony|> mmm
[18:36] <ikonia> |Anthony|: certainly not in the way I think you mean
[18:36] <urlin2u> !details | _Marcus
[18:37] <|Anthony|> ikonia, i want to reload mouse driver/services
[18:37] <|Anthony|> without logging out/in
[18:37] <ikonia> |Anthony|: who by ? for what reason ?
[18:37] <mikem94590> Question: The 3.2.5 kernel seems to be available (http://kernel.ubuntu.com/~kernel-ppa/mainline/v3.2.5-precise/) for Precise, but I'm on Oneiric.  Is there anything wrong with installing it on Oneiric?
[18:37] <Chipzzz> anderson: yes, you have to specify the iso file... start typing it and use the tab key for completion... it'll save you much typing
[18:37] <ikonia> mikem94590: is there a reason you need/want it ?
[18:37] <mikem94590> ikonia: power regression issues
[18:38] <ikonia> mikem94590: it's designed for use with precise, running it on another version is not recommended
[18:38] <mikem94590> Currently keeping me on Windows :<
[18:38] <mikem94590> Alright
[18:38] <|Anthony|> ikonia, my pointer icon is glitching out. logging out/in resets it so it doesn't glitch (until it starts glitching again)
[18:38] <chaos_zero> Hello, i am trying to set up mutiple network bridges in ubuntu.(none are wireless or anything, all are gigabit ethernets) I have set up one correctly but using the same type of configuration for another doing the same thing does not work. any special considerations for adding a second?
[18:38] <_Marcus> I am installing Ubuntu minimal. It said the installation failed, and taht it was because of the step "Select and install software". It's giving me a list of steps to skip forward or back to. Is skipping to the next step "Install the GRUB boot loader on the disk" going to hurt my installation?
[18:38] <ikonia> |Anthony|: the xorg application is what controls your mouse, so you can't restart the "mouse" component as it's part of X, you need to restart X (logging in/out)
[18:39] <andrey> help me please
[18:39]  * |Anthony| facepalms
[18:39] <ikonia> _Marcus: yes
[18:39] <|Anthony|> so annoying
[18:39] <rymate1234> _Marcus: did you select and install software?
[18:39] <_Marcus> No
[18:39] <_Marcus> Nothing is checked
[18:39] <_Marcus> I have no software on that list I wanted
[18:39] <urlin2u> _Marcus, it is a virtual not much damage can be done outside of that environment
[18:40] <_Marcus> urlin2u: I just don't want to reinstall it
[18:40] <Gentoo64> why are all the ubuntu images named i386.iso when theyre not compatable with anything less than i686?
[18:40] <bortolato> buonasera
[18:40] <rymate1234> _Marcus: doesn't mean you can skip it :P (afaik)
[18:40] <anderson> Chipzz: "no such flie or directory"
[18:41] <anderson> Chipzz: :/
[18:41] <urlin2u> _Marcus, understandable, some tings are learned through trial and error, honestly that is how I learned most of what little I know.
[18:41] <|Anthony|> i thought that one of the fundamental principles of linux is that things are modular and that it is best to keep things focused... "This does one job, and it does it well"
[18:41] <urlin2u> things*
[18:41] <zykotick9> Gentoo64: it's ubuntu, do you expect technical accuracy ;)
[18:41] <anderson> Chipzz: ill try unetbootin
[18:42] <LjL> |Anthony|: X is not very modular, though that's changing
[18:42] <Chipzzz> anderson: you probably changed directories when you did the sudo -i... just go to your desktop or wherever the file is and you'll be ok
[18:42] <chaos_zero> Hello, i am trying to set up mutiple network bridges in ubuntu server.(none are wireless or anything, all are gigabit ethernets) I have set up one correctly but using the same type of configuration for another doing the same thing does not work. any special considerations for adding a second? could i give more information that would be helpful?
[18:43] <|Anthony|> seems as though system wide stability is jeopardized when one thing is too big... you can't just restart a piece of it with out restarting the whole system
[18:43] <yuler> How do I automatically load "metacity --replace" or equivalent in Ubu 10.10?   I have to manually invoke it upon login.
[18:43] <|Anthony|> anywho
[18:44] <|Anthony|> yuler, are you using compiz?
[18:44] <oPhelias_> @yuler: go into Startup programs.. add metacity --replace
[18:44] <MonkeyDust> |Anthony|  if i'm not mistaking, X will be replaced by Wayland
[18:45] <Austin`1> Anyone here experience with Tangerine (DAAP sharing)
[18:45] <yuler> |Anthony|: no, although I tried it at one time.  I removed it.
[18:45] <Gentoo64> MonkeyDust: replaced? since when
[18:45] <auronandace> MonkeyDust: i'd like to see a timeline for that :)
[18:45] <|Anthony|> haven't dealt with wayland... i'll look into it
[18:45] <Gentoo64> afaik X wont be replaced
[18:45] <|Anthony|> yuler, than oPhelias_'s suggestion will work
[18:45] <zykotick9> Gentoo64: Wayland is an Xorg replacement actually
[18:46] <drakalen> !pl
[18:46] <Gentoo64> zykotick9: yea
[18:47] <urlin2u> Austin`1, you post your question  not asking who knows,and be sure it is not 3rd party. ;)
[18:48] <Austin`1> urlin2u: Alright, sorry. I'm using Tangerine with Banshee, first connected a week ago, any songs that I've added to the share since then don't play correctly
[18:48] <rcmaehl> I am having an issue with dual monitors. I have set them up however I can not move windows to the other monitor however the mouse goes onto the second monitor. While in the second monitor the mouse is an X
[18:48] <MonkeyDust> here's something http://digitizor.com/2010/11/05/ubuntu-to-ditch-x-for-wayland/
[18:49] <rcmaehl> Ubuntu 11.10 64-bit Nvidia 440 Graphics card
[18:49] <infernal> Excuse me, I'm trying to set up /proc/sys/vm/laptop_mode but it isnt really working out. I use gksudo grep /proc/sys/vm/laptop_mod
[18:49] <infernal> is asks for a password from the UI and after that nothing really hapens. How do change its value?
[18:49] <zykotick9> rcmaehl: sounds like you selected "separate x sessions" instead of xinerama/twinview
[18:49] <urlin2u> Austin`1, bummer, hang and maybe someone will know. :)
[18:49] <administrator_> so uh
[18:49] <rcmaehl> zykotick9: what is the difference?
[18:49] <administrator_> is this where i cna ask noob questions?
[18:49] <administrator_> can*
[18:50] <theadmin> administrator_: Sure
[18:50] <yusufaliboz> i want to install android sdk to ubuntu 11.10 but how?
[18:50] <urlin2u> !ask > administrator_
[18:50] <MonkeyDust> administrator_  noob is not a nice word, rather use newbie or beginner
[18:50] <qqqqq> How do I reset the sound system with a command?
[18:50] <zykotick9> rcmaehl: twinview is two monitors actting as once big one, while separate is what you are experiencing now
[18:50] <Chipzzz> qqqqq: pulseaudio -k
[18:50] <administrator_> alright, i'm trying to install this specific python installer
[18:50] <administrator_> http://www.manning.com/sande/
[18:50] <administrator_> but i cannot seem to do so properly
[18:51] <Austin`1> urlin2u: hopefully!
[18:51] <anderson> Chipzzz: bro, i tyed
[18:51] <rcmaehl> zykotick9: I'll try twin view and be right back. gotta restart X
[18:51] <anderson> Chipzzz: ops, i tried to install
[18:51] <Chipzzz> anderson: tell me your troubles...
[18:52] <anderson> Chipzzz: unetbootin
[18:52] <urlin2u> MonkeyDust, hwos about pleb that meet your approval . ;)
[18:52] <urlin2u> hiws*
[18:53] <Zilllly> Hi
[18:53] <anderson> Chipzzz: then this appeared: "error: dependency is not satisfiable: python-central"
[18:53] <Chipzzz> anderson: i'd have gone with the cat suggest by zykotick9... it was simple and effective. You just weren't in the right diectory when you issued the command, that's all
[18:53] <Zilllly> anyone tell me how to get the unaffilliated thing next to my name when I log on?
[18:53] <anderson> Chipzzz: but doesn't works...
[18:54] <Zilllly> using xcaht
[18:54] <Zilllly> doh xchat*
[18:54] <zykotick9> !cloak | Zilllly
[18:54] <Gentoo64> Zilllly: join freenode
[18:54] <_rob_> can someone point me to the correct tutorial for getting ubuntu to see my hardware raid? The "FakeRaidHowto" seems to be geared toward installing the os on the raid array but i have a different drive for the os. The raid array is just for files and I dont want to lose any data that's already on them
[18:54] <Zilllly> Nice one! thanks guys!
[18:54] <Zilllly> you are gems!
[18:54] <administrator_> i'm new to ubuntu because i don't have money for windows
[18:54] <administrator_> so it's probably a simple mistake
[18:55] <pangolin> administrator_: you getting any specific errors?
[18:55] <dtmbmw325i> !raid
[18:55] <massimo> ciao
[18:55] <StepNjump> My screen resolution is too high. When I boot up, I can't even see the grub menu. Is there a way to boot up in TTY mode?
[18:56] <administrator_> but uh i extract the file onto the desktop with ubuntu, and i try to run sudo ./install.sh
[18:56] <urlin2u> administrator_, is whatever it is in a linux format?
[18:56] <pangolin> !nox | StepNjump
[18:56] <administrator_> it's in tar.gz
[18:56] <administrator_> the download
[18:56] <Chipzzz> anderson: try this: "sudo -i" then "cd /the/directory/where/your/iso/is", then "cat thenameoftheiso.iso > /dev/theusbdevice", and finally, "exit"
[18:56] <StepNjump> thanks pangolin
[18:56] <theadmin> Chipzzz: You don't normally use cat for that, use dd
[18:57] <_Marcus> theadmin: Why not use cat for that?
[18:57] <zykotick9> theadmin: actually debian's instructions of hybridiso recommends using cat, not dd (dd should also work)
[18:57] <administrator_> http://www.manning.com/sande/Installation_Instructions.html
[18:57] <administrator_> ^tried these instructions
[18:57] <administrator_> here's the message i get in the terminal
[18:57] <dtmbmw325i> !dd > dtmbmw325i
[18:58] <Chipzzz> theadmin: zykotick9: either is ok with me...
[18:58] <CTtechguy> Has anyone run into this issue on lubuntu 11.10? - when I close the lid on my laptop is goes into suspend but when I open the lid all I get is a blank screen and no video.  Thanks.
[18:58] <administrator_> chmod: cannot access 'install.sh': No such file or directory
[18:58] <dtmbmw325i> CTtechguy, did you try the brightness controls on the laptop?
[18:59] <pangolin> administrator_: you said you extracted to the Desktop? do cd ~/Desktop before the .sh command
[18:59] <dtmbmw325i> CTtechguy, I say that because my laptop likes to dim the screen completely upon boot and wake
[18:59] <administrator_> alright
[18:59] <revzter> helow
[18:59] <chaos_zero> hey again another question. I am trying to set up a single cable for ftp transactions. How do i configure a network interface for connecting directly to another computer? (in /etc/network/interfaces)
[18:59] <Guest27408> m usin virtualbox in ubuntu
[19:00] <Guest27408> m not able to put in in full screen mode
[19:00] <CTtechguy> I will try that but it works with other distros
[19:00] <administrator_> ahh ok, still get the same message
[19:00] <Gentoo64> Guest27408: install guest additions
[19:00] <MonkeyDust> Guest27408  rather ask in #vbox
[19:00] <pangolin> !pastebin | administrator_ could you please paste the error
[19:01] <administrator_> http://i.imm.io/gpGu.png
[19:01] <Guest27408> thank you
[19:01] <infernal> Excuse me, but how do i go about runing this command echo 5 > /proc/sys/vm/laptop_mode
[19:01] <Gentoo64> infernal: use sudo before it
[19:01] <administrator_> chmod: cannot access `install.sh': No such file or directory
[19:02] <trism> infernal: echo 5 | sudo tee /proc/sys/vm/laptop_mode
[19:02] <trism> Gentoo64: > is captured by the shell before sudo gets it
[19:02] <pangolin> administrator_: cd to the folder that was created on the Desktop, then chmod +x etc.
[19:02] <drakalen> !pl
[19:03] <gtg_bansal> how to decrease battery utilisation in ubuntu 11.10
[19:03] <infernal> trism: thanks a bunch
[19:03] <administrator_> pangolin: i appreciate the help alot, i'm sorry but what is "cd to the folder"?
[19:04] <pangolin> administrator_: when you extracted the tar.gz it created a folder with the .sh file in it on your Desktop
[19:04] <MonkeyDust> administrator_  cd means change directory
[19:04] <Chipzzz> gtg_bansal: http://www.ubuntubuzz.com/2011/09/how-to-increase-extend-battery-life-in.html
[19:04] <pangolin> administrator_: cd (change directory) to that folder and then try running the commands
[19:06] <administrator_> awesome i am learning
[19:06] <administrator_> how can i change the directory of the folder?
[19:07] <pangolin> administrator_: glad to hear it :) you may want to have" /msg ubottu !cli " in your irc client, ubottu is the channel bot filled with interesting stuff to learn from :)
[19:07] <milen8204> !nounity
[19:07] <anderson> Chipzz: am i need a usb drive bigger than 2gb?
[19:07] <pangolin> administrator_: what do you mean by change the directory of the folder?
[19:08] <Saiki> hey all
[19:08] <berckner> berckner
[19:08] <Saiki> I got a RM problem
[19:08] <administrator_> the folder is on my desktop with the .sh file in it
[19:08] <MonkeyDust> administrator_  folder = directory
[19:08] <Chipzzz> anderson: 2gb should be more than enough, why?... did you get an out of disk space error?
[19:08] <administrator_> pangolin: u said "cd to the folder that was created on the Desktop"
[19:08] <anderson> Chipzzz: yeah
[19:08] <administrator_> then run the commands in the terminal
[19:09] <Saiki> I am trying to remove things on a windows partion, mounted in a live CD on xubuntu jaunty (latest I have burned) and when I go to rm -rf the folders thet just sit there, and they are not gone. this is done as root as well, I might add
[19:09] <Gentoo64> administrator_: ioen a terminal (it will open in your home folder) then type cd Desktop
[19:09] <administrator_> alright
[19:09] <Gentoo64> administrator_: then type ls which will list directories to cd into, cd into that folder you need
[19:10] <Chipzzz> anderson: you're getting really, really close :-)... if you empty format the usb drive first and repeat what you just did, you should be all set :-)
[19:10] <pangolin> administrator_: yeah, I should have said cd to the directory, old windows habit of calling things folders. but if you want to move the directory you can use the mv command. this is where checking out the info on !cli will be helpful to you.
[19:10] <Saiki> on another note.. anyone in here have a vita?
[19:10] <A0alpha> I'm trying to install Ubuntu 11.10 on a netbook with Windows 7, but it doesn't give my an option to do a side-by-side installation. Just Replace Windows 7 and Something Else. HELP!
[19:11] <pangolin> !ot | Saiki
[19:11] <Saiki> pangolin: it's ununtu-related, ity..
[19:11] <MonkeyDust> administrator_  http://ubuntu-tutorials.com/2006/12/17/basics-for-the-command-line-for-newbies-ubuntu-510-6061-610/
[19:11] <grid_bug> Is there any reason that python-bluez would have nonfunctional accept() code?
[19:11] <pangolin> Saiki: then please ask the real question and find out :)
[19:11] <anderson> Chipzzz: how can i format?
[19:11] <yusufaliboz> How can i install Android SDK to Ubuntu 11.10?
[19:12] <Saiki> has anyone got a vita and tested connecting it to ubuntu yet? if so does it wrk like a regular drive when connected, or is it still trying to load the manager and force updates?
[19:12] <MonkeyDust> yusufaliboz  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AndroidSDK
[19:12] <darthminimall> grid_bug: because they don't know what life is
[19:13] <cola_> how do i computer
[19:13] <Saiki> pangolin: I have a habbit of wanting to keep my questions seperate, as one is personal, the other is business
[19:13] <administrator_> thx for that, i'll read through that
[19:13] <administrator_> this is what i got
 grid_bug: because they don
[19:13] <administrator_> wait
[19:13] <administrator_> wrong paste
[19:13] <FloodBot1> administrator_: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[19:14] <administrator_> http://i.imm.io/gpJg.png
[19:14] <alot_of_mike> How can I see data on my laptop's wifi hardware?
[19:14] <Chipzzz> anderson: "mkfs.fat16 /dev/whateverdevicetheusbdriveis"
[19:14] <pangolin> administrator_: cd hello_world
[19:15] <A0alpha> I'm trying to install Ubuntu 11.10 on a netbook with Windows 7, but it doesn't give my an option to do a side-by-side installation. Just Replace Windows 7 and Something Else. HELP!
[19:15] <Saiki> I am trying to remove things on a windows partion, mounted in a live CD on xubuntu jaunty (latest I have burned) and when I go to rm -rf the folders thet just sit there, and they are not gone. this is done as root as well, I might add
[19:15] <Zillow> got the cloak, thanks everyone!
[19:15] <_Marcus> What is Ubuntu Alternate?
[19:15] <pangolin> !laternate
[19:15] <Saiki> A0alpha:: move the parton over with gparted (system > partion editor)
[19:15] <pangolin> !alaternate
[19:15] <pangolin> err sorry
[19:15] <_Marcus> !alternate
[19:16] <anderson> Chipzzz: it doesn't work...
[19:16] <darthminimall> i can has cheezeburger?
[19:16] <windbloet> Hi!
[19:16] <Chipzzz> anderson: what's the error message?
[19:17] <administrator_> wesome
[19:17] <administrator_> awesome, now i get it
[19:17] <urlin2u> !ot > darthminimall
[19:17] <pangolin> :)
[19:17] <administrator_> this is what i got, though
[19:17] <administrator_> http://i.imm.io/gpKe.png
[19:17] <anderson> Chipzzz: mkfs.fat16 /dev/sdANDERSON -bash: mkfs.fat16: command not found
[19:17] <windbloet> anyone with experience with audio on Ubuntu LTS
[19:17] <MonkeyDust> windbloet  you mean 10.04 LTS?
[19:17] <windbloet> not getting any sound on Intel N10/ICH
[19:18] <windbloet> 10.01 LTS yes
[19:18] <monohedron> 10.04 lts ?
[19:18] <Saiki> I am trying to remove things on a windows partion, mounted in a live CD on xubuntu jaunty (latest I have burned) and when I go to rm -rf the folders thet just sit there, and they are not gone. this is done as root as well, I might add. does anyone know what the problem could be?
[19:19] <arifr> LibreOffice calc (spreadsheet) doesn't support chart macros :( Any suggestions? I need macros feature to create and customize charts
[19:19] <Chipzzz> anderson: "mkdosfs /dev/whateverdevicetheusbdriveis"
[19:19] <windbloet> yes
[19:19] <milen8204> !nounity
[19:19] <Gentoo64> Saiki: do rm -rfv
[19:19] <pangolin> administrator_: unfortunately I don't know what package you need to satisfy that dependency.
[19:19] <Saiki> Gentoo64: what's the v flag for?
[19:20] <Gentoo64> Saiki: verbose
[19:20] <ece_man> hi guys
[19:20] <Saiki> Gentoo64: still there..
[19:20] <windbloet> manahedron: I had installed the latest version however wifi would not work
[19:20] <MonkeyDust> arifr  maybe this is a useful link http://extensions.libreoffice.org/
[19:20] <boba88> while installing ubuntu 10.04 amd64 got the following problem: can not mount /dev/loop0 (/cdrom/casper/filesystem.squashfs) on //filesystem.squashfs
[19:21] <zykotick9> Saiki: you are using "rm -rf /PATH" right?
[19:21] <ece_man> need your help guys, I'm using Ubuntu 11.10, can someone help me where i can find the scripts that are supposed to be in /etc/init.d
[19:21] <windbloet> after downgraded to 10.04 LTS works perfectly fine!
[19:21] <ikonia> boba88: how much fam do you have ?
[19:21] <grid_bug> Has anyone worked with the python-bluez package and the accept() function?
[19:21] <Gentoo64> Saiki: try deleting them using the file manager
[19:21] <boba88> ikonia: what is fam?
[19:21] <darthminimall> yes, pybluez help plox?
[19:21] <ikonia> windbloet: what areyou talking about ?
[19:21] <Saiki> zykotick9: of course,
[19:21] <ikonia> boba88: ram sorry
[19:21] <boba88> ikonia: 2 gig
[19:21] <Saiki> zykotick9: of course, I am not a noob when it comes to linux
[19:22] <ece_man> anyone?
[19:22] <windbloet> ikonia: no audio with an Intel N10/ICH
[19:22] <DzaDze> Anyone know how to fix this ?
[19:22] <ikonia> boba88: Hmm, loads to open squashfs into
[19:22] <ikonia> boba88: any reason you are using 64bit with so little ram ?
[19:22] <DzaDze> Anyone know how to fix this ?
[19:22] <DzaDze> upgrade to GTK+ version 2.24.7 or later
[19:22] <DzaDze> ?
[19:22] <grid_bug> ece_man: /etc/rc.d/
[19:22] <ece_man> alright thanks grid_bug! :)
[19:22] <boba88> ikonia: because i am supposed to use a 64 bit application
[19:23] <ikonia> boba88: oh, what application is 64bit only ?
[19:23] <grid_bug> Has anyone worked with the python-bluez package and the BluetoothSocket.accept() function?
[19:23] <ikonia> boba88: (just a curious aside)
[19:23] <Saiki> Gentoo64: I did, it's too big for the trash
[19:23] <windbloet> ikonia: any suggestions on how to get audio?
[19:23] <anderson> Chipzzz: still not working... write error: no space left on device...
[19:23] <ikonia> windbloet: you said it worked ?
[19:24] <Gentoo64> Saiki: try holding shift and delete it
[19:24] <Chrismeister> Is it possible to install beryl emerald on lubuntu?
[19:24] <Chipzzz> anderson: does your disk manager work?
[19:24] <ikonia> Chrismeister: beryl is dead
[19:24] <theadmin> Chrismeister: That no longer exists. Both of those merged with Compiz
[19:24] <urlin2u> Saiki, you can set nautilus to directly delete bypassing trash.
[19:24] <zykotick9> !emerald | Chrismeister
[19:24] <auronandace> Chrismeister: you mean compiz
[19:24] <windbloet> ikonia: overall everything is working perfectly. Except for there is no audio.
[19:24] <ikonia> windbloet: you said it was working in 10.04 ?
[19:24] <boba88> ikonia: i am supposed to develop an application that is manily distributed under windows, but under linux it is rarerly used and the one mostly used is 64 bit
[19:25] <A0alpha> connect irc.twit.tv
[19:25] <A0alpha> whoops
[19:25] <windbloet> ikonia: everything is working yes! Except for no audio.
[19:25] <Chrismeister> What i want is "glassy like" windows.
[19:25] <Saiki> urlin2u: I'm using xfce
[19:25] <boba88> ikonia: how much ram do i need for a 64 bit ubuntu ? :
[19:25] <ikonia> windbloet: you just said it was working in 10.04
[19:25] <boba88> ikonia: how much ram do i need for a 64 bit ubuntu ? :)
[19:25] <urlin2u> Saiki, you can also path to rm
[19:26] <ikonia> boba88: you can have 2GB its fine to run it with 2GB
[19:26] <anderson> Chipzzz: where it is?
[19:26] <Saiki> urlin2u: I tried that, it doesn't work
[19:26] <{GiGi}> could someone help me out with why can't I connect to the internet with the lastest ubuntu distro?
[19:26] <boba88> ikonia: but any idea then for the problem i have
[19:26] <djQuery> ubuntu wont recognize my usb devices
[19:26] <Leif_> Does anyone know how to make an image of an sdcard file in ubuntu?
[19:26] <urlin2u> Saiki, is it in files rather then home I have not seen the whole conversation.
[19:26] <ikonia> boba88: it sounds silly, but not enough ram (not your problem) and damaged CD's are the most common for that error
[19:26] <anderson> Chipzzz: i just have disk usage analyzer
[19:26] <MonkeyDust> {GiGi}  what have you tried before you came here?
[19:26] <windbloet> ikonia: 11.10 wifi wasn't working. Downgraded to 10.04 LTS wifi works awesomely! However not recognizing audio device.
[19:27] <Chipzzz> anderson: system->disk utility or something like that... not the analyzer
[19:27] <ikonia> boba88: there are more complex reasons for that problem but bad media / not enough ram are the main ones
[19:27] <nickgaw> Hi, Where can I download an ubuntu development build that works with the mac book pro as 11.10 does not boot properly I just sit at a busybox prompt?
[19:27] <urlin2u> djQuery, look in disk utility to see if they show.
[19:27] <MonkeyDust> nickgaw  better ask in #ubuntu+1
[19:27] <djQuery> cant find disk utility
[19:27] <DzaDze> Anyone know how to fix this ?
[19:28] <DzaDze> upgrade to GTK+ version 2.24.7 or later
[19:28] <ikonia> nickgaw: 11.10 works fine with mac
[19:28] <urlin2u> djQuery, what release are you running?
[19:28] <DzaDze> ?
[19:28] <djQuery> urlin2u, 11.10
[19:28] <boba88> ikonia: i just burned the cd with the slowest write speed, because i could not boot at all the 11.10 64 bit, and thats why i just burned a new copy of 10.04 64 bit
[19:28] <Chipzzz> anderson: type "palimpsest" in a terminal
[19:28] <ikonia> boba88: see if 10.04 boots for you
[19:28] <urlin2u> djQuery, please use tab complete of nics sp we know you have answered and to who. :)
[19:28] <urlin2u> so*
[19:28] <{GiGi}> MonkeyDust: I've tried the connection to the router with another device, so that I am 100% certain that works. Then I've tried with the auto DHCP, doesn't work tried with some IPs but I'm not an expert on that field too much. Tried connecting the machine directly to the modem and it was all the same.
[19:28] <havermyer> I'm having an issue installing Ubuntu as a side OS on my Win7 box - the partition table doesn't come up inthe installation wizard, but it comes up fine in gparted.  anybody have a few minutes to help troubleshoot?
[19:28] <boba88> ikonia: 10.04 boots but i get this error as explained above
[19:29] <ikonia> boba88: ah, so that was the 10.04 error
[19:29] <MonkeyDust> {GiGi}  wireless or cable?
[19:29] <Saiki> urlin2u: it's in ~/win/$recycle Bin$ (I think.. windows partion)
[19:29] <nickgaw> leav
[19:29] <{GiGi}> Oh um, wired connection.
[19:29] <urlin2u> djQuery, cool disk utility is in the menu use the top button left panel for search/.
[19:29] <djQuery> urlin2u, thought I did
[19:29] <boba88> ikonia: yep, for the 11.10 i did not get it to boot at all
[19:29] <urlin2u> djQuery, yeah you did I missed it while typing.
[19:29] <ikonia> boba88: /dev/loop is a loop back device (ram) for the uncompressed squashfs file system on the CD
[19:29] <urlin2u> my bad djQuery
[19:29] <ikonia> boba88: so the fact of the error is "I can't uncompress the file system on the media into ram"
[19:29] <ubibg> from wich url i can download ubuntu mobile, and were i can find info for supported devices
[19:30] <arifr> LibreOffice calc (spreadsheet) doesn't support chart macros :( Any suggestions? I need macros feature to create and customize charts
[19:30] <MonkeyDust> {GiGi}  what's in /etc/network/interfaces ? use pastebin
[19:30] <ikonia> ubibg: ubuntu mobile isn't released.
[19:30] <anderson> Chipzzz: not exist...
[19:30] <urlin2u> Saiki, what is it?
[19:30] <djQuery> urlin2u, yeah its not listed there. neither my usb hd or my phone are listed
[19:30] <ubibg> beta version
[19:30] <boba88> ikonia: hmmm, and what can be done for that? :)
[19:30] <ikonia> ubibg: the beta version doesn't exist
[19:30] <arifr> urlin2u  LibreOffice calc (spreadsheet) doesn't support chart macros :( Any suggestions? I need macros feature to create and customize charts
[19:30] <ikonia> boba88: well, the normal causes are not enough ram, or a bad CD image,
[19:30] <urlin2u> djQuery, what is the partitikon format of the HD?
[19:30] <ikonia> boba88: have you tried the alternative CD image ?
[19:30] <urlin2u> partition*
[19:30] <MonkeyDust> arifr  did you check the extensions page?
[19:30] <Chipzzz> anderson: "rm -rf /dev/theusbdrive"
[19:31] <ikonia> Chipzzz: that won't do anything
[19:31] <djQuery> urlin2u, ntfs for the hd and dont know about the phone
[19:31] <urlin2u> arifr, whay are you asking me?
[19:31] <urlin2u> why*
[19:31] <Chipzzz> ikonia: ?
[19:31] <ikonia> Chipzzz: that won't do anything
[19:31] <anderson> Chipzzz: okay.
[19:31] <arifr> MonkeyDust thanks for reply extensions page???
[19:31] <anderson> Chipzzz: and now?
[19:31] <{GiGi}> MonkeyDust: just "auto lo" and "iface lo inet loopback" in the next line.
[19:31] <MonkeyDust> arifr  http://extensions.libreoffice.org/
[19:31] <gigglefight> In my opinion, i may get blasted for asking, how to set partitions? I've installed the Linux OS on an external hard drive but when i boot into the usb device, i get error: file not found and then it boots into the operating system.
[19:32] <Chipzzz> anderson: "ls -al /dev/theusbdrive"
[19:32] <windbloet> anyone experienced no sound issues and how did you solve it!
[19:32] <ikonia> gigglefight: which file is it looking for ?
[19:32] <arifr> MonleyDust thanks I am checking it now
[19:32] <ikonia> !sound > windbloet
[19:32] <MonkeyDust> {GiGi}  change loopback to dhcp
[19:32] <djQuery> urlin2u, I know I am gonna have extra tasks to get the phone to work
[19:32] <urlin2u> djQuery, I suspect you can't find the mount look in home the left panel for the HD.
[19:32] <Chipzzz> anderson: is it empty?
[19:32] <zykotick9> {GiGi}: don't change loopback to dhcp
[19:33] <rpg32> i'm still having trouble with my webcam... can't seem to find a solution for ubuntu 11.10
[19:33] <urlin2u> djQuery, althoughif the HD ios not showing it may need a chkdsk
[19:33] <djQuery> urlin2u, only have flopy listed under periphial
[19:33] <windbloet> Thanks
[19:33] <ikonia> Chipzzz: why are you trying to maniuplate device files ?
[19:33] <ikonia> Chipzzz: touching the device files won't do anything
[19:33] <{GiGi}> don't have the rights to do so anyway, zykotick9
[19:33] <rpg32> i can get the webcam working in camorama but not cheese
[19:33] <anderson> Chipzzz: no directory.... i think it is...
[19:33] <Saiki> urlin2u: wat is what?
[19:33] <urlin2u> djQuery, file errors in a ntfs will stop it from being read.
[19:33] <rpg32> Bus 001 Device 006: ID 046d:08f6 Logitech, Inc. QuickCam Messenger Plus
[19:33] <ikonia> anderson: you won't get directories, they are device files
[19:33] <Sna4x8> Has anyone successfully used Chrome with Photobucket in 11.04?
[19:34] <ikonia> anderson: what Chipzzz is suggesting you do makes no sense
[19:34] <gigglefight> doesn't mention, I've installed it on the 4gb internal SDD in my netbook and it booted fine. honestly, it's jolicloud os, from my understanding it should work the same as if i set the ubuntu partitions; so i decided to join this chat in search for answers.
[19:34] <zykotick9> {GiGi}: you need to use Network Manager to set you IP stuff, /etc/network/interfaces will disable N-M (probably NOT what you want)
[19:34] <ubuntu> hi
[19:34] <djQuery> urlin2u, from even being listed?
[19:34] <gigglefight> it's error: file not found loading Joli......OS
[19:34] <urlin2u> Saiki, why don't you delete it from windows?
[19:34] <dcantir> how do i format my sd  card to get it working ?
[19:34] <gigglefight> two lines in a black screen
[19:34] <ikonia> gigglefight: ok - so we don't support jolicloud here
[19:35] <MonkeyDust> {GiGi}  zykotick9 sorry! i don't use N-M
[19:35] <auronandace> gigglefight: we only support official ubuntu releases here
[19:35] <Chipzzz> ikonia: oh... it isn't mounted, is it?
[19:35] <anderson> Chipzzz: :/
[19:35] <urlin2u> djQuery, yes, but is just a possibility
[19:35] <{GiGi}> zykotick9, not really sure what to set it to at this point
[19:35] <ubuntu> i'm haveing trouble with xubuntu 10.04 not reading the hard drive on my g3 mac
[19:35] <zykotick9> MonkeyDust: neither do i
[19:35] <ikonia> gigglefight: jolicloud has it's own support resources
[19:35] <gigglefight> can you direct me to an irc please for support with JoliCloud
[19:35] <ikonia> Chipzzz: what ???? /dev are device files
[19:35] <gigglefight> i'll google
[19:35] <gigglefight> thanks
[19:35] <ikonia> gigglefight: check the jolicloud webpage
[19:35] <havermyer> Trying to install 11.10, no partitions show up in the install wizard.  partions show find in gparted - any ideas?
[19:35] <rpg32> anyone good with webcams problems?
[19:35] <dcantir> no, it has bad sectors
[19:35] <ikonia> 1webcam > rpg32
[19:35] <ikonia> oops
[19:35] <ikonia> !webcam > rpg32
[19:36] <urlin2u> havermyer, post a screenshot in a imagebin of gparted.
[19:36] <Saiki> urlin2u: because windows is not booting properly, and I think somehting inside one of the usual places is to blame
[19:36] <djQuery> urlin2u, well at least the phone shows now
[19:36] <Chipzzz> anderson: mount /dev/theusbdrive
[19:36] <ikonia> Chipzzz: that won't do anything either
[19:36] <urlin2u> Saiki, not sure then really te boot of windows may be a easy fix.
[19:36] <ikonia> Chipzzz: that is not the correct syntax
[19:36] <urlin2u> the*
[19:36] <ikonia> anderson: what are you actually trying to do
[19:37] <auronandace> Chipzzz: do you know what you are doing?
[19:37] <rpg32> yes, i have looked through those sites without any luck
[19:37] <ikonia> anderson: what's the issue, lets sort this out
[19:38] <Saiki> urlin2u: something may be corrupting it. and ubuntu would be the way to replace corrupted fines without restoring the PC
[19:38] <{GiGi}> should I use any specific set of options to make sure that card gets the info from the modem/router?
[19:38] <Saiki> urlin2u: and I'm doing a quick cleaning job while I'm at it
[19:38] <Chipzzz> ikonia: ty
[19:38] <{GiGi}> because such has worked on all the other d
[19:38] <{GiGi}> devices
[19:39] <anderson> ikonia: i just want boot from my flash drive... boot the latest version. but actually my version is 8.04
[19:39] <urlin2u> Saiki, okay then, not sure what to say as the details are the important part here for real help
[19:39] <wjlroe> so I've installed fonts-inconsolata and ttf-inconsolata - but when I have "URxvt*font:  xft:inconsolata:size=10:antialias=true" in my .Xresources - urxvt errors saying, choose a valid font... any ideas?
[19:39] <ikonia> anderson: ok - so first question 1.) does your bios support boot from USB ?
[19:39] <mayk> qual comanto para atualizar meu kernel para o 3.2.5 pelo apt get?
[19:39] <MonkeyDust> {GiGi}  do you want to use network manager or modify the network settings manually?
[19:39] <anderson> ikonia: sure.
[19:39] <Saiki> urlin2u: I'm a tech, I was just having a few major issues with linux misbehaving and refusing commands I know should work fine
[19:39] <havermyer> urlin2u: imagebin.org/198578
[19:39] <ikonia> anderson: ok - second question have you made a bootable usb drive for ubuntu 11.10 yet ?
[19:40] <urlin2u> Saiki, yourv a tech eh you have an image of Windows?
[19:40] <urlin2u> your*
[19:40] <Saiki> urlin2u: the rest of this is all windows-related and doesn't belong in a linux chatroom
[19:40] <Saiki> urlin2u: what do you mean?
[19:40] <urlin2u> Saiki, a clone
[19:40] <{GiGi}> I'm in the network tools now, MonkeyDust
[19:40] <anderson> ikonia: of course not...
[19:41] <maria1> hello
[19:41] <Saiki> urlin2u: I have MY pc and wthe one I'm working on. the core components I can ver-write with my own
[19:41] <ikonia> anderson: why of course not, don't be smart, I'm asking questions to determain your current status
[19:41] <ikonia> anderson: the answer you where looking for is "no"
[19:41] <maria1> I need some help in system reinstallation
[19:41] <ikonia> anderson: third question, do you know the process to make a usb install media ?
[19:41] <Saiki> urlin2u: I am not a certified tech, I do tech work for fun
[19:41] <urlin2u> Saiki, lol you loose your tech status here with no image. :)
[19:41] <anderson> ikonia: no.
[19:42] <ikonia> anderson: ok,
[19:42] <Jordan_U> ikonia: There may be problems using Ubuntu 8.04's Startup Disk Creator (or Unetbootin) for an Ubuntu 11.10 image, because of differences in syslinux versions. dd should work though (if the image is Ubuntu 11.10).
[19:42] <ikonia> !install | anderson
[19:42] <ikonia> Jordan_U: totally, hence why I'm trying to find the current status
[19:42] <zykotick9> wjlroe: i don't use xft fonts in my .Xresources file, but your format is very different from mine (perhaps correctly?) "URxvt*font: -xos4-terminus-bold-r-normal--14-140-72-72-c-80-iso8859-15" i use xfontsel to get the line
[19:42] <ikonia> anderson: check this url http://tinyurl.com/3exghs
[19:42] <ikonia> anderson: that is your first port of call
[19:43] <Saiki> urlin2u: ?
[19:43] <Saiki> urlin2u: what do you mean?
[19:43] <wjlroe> zykotick9: that xft line I just copied from somebody's blog post - I think your format is the old format? I'll mess around with xfontsel - but I don't think Inconsolata is showing up, which is what I don't understand
[19:43] <urlin2u> Saiki, a self proclaimed tech is a ego thing, I was ribbing you. :)
[19:43] <havermyer> urlin2u: www.imagebin.org/198578 any ideas?
[19:43] <MonkeyDust> {GiGi}  i'm not familiar with network tools, don't see how you can use it to configure your network (if that's what you want)
[19:44] <goddard> how can i search a specific site with google?
[19:44] <Saiki> urlin2u: lol well, I do this  for fun it's a hopy, not a job
[19:44] <Saiki> hobby*
[19:44] <boba88> ikonia: i just tried the ubuntu 10.04 64 bit on anoter computer and i got the same errror with unable to mount
[19:44] <urlin2u> havermyer, what is the windows release?
[19:44] <ikonia> goddard: nothing to do with ubuntu
[19:44] <boba88> ikonia: i just tried the ubuntu 10.04 64 bit live cd on anoter computer and i got the same errror with unable to mount
[19:44] <ikonia> boba88: ok that suggests the media/burn more to me
[19:44] <saquib> m
[19:44] <havermyer> urlin2u: win 7 ultimate
[19:44] <zykotick9> wjlroe: you might want to try running "sudo fc-cache -fv" to refresh the font cache?
[19:44] <Saiki> urlin2u: it's windows 7, I don't know what sp
[19:45] <wjlroe> zykotick9: thanks, will try that
[19:45] <{GiGi}> I'm quite a linux noob so I can work with what you are used to, MonkeyDust
[19:45] <Saiki> oh.. wrong person ol
[19:45] <ikonia> boba88: if you are trying it on multiple computers and it's failing it suggests it's the media you are using (not definitive, but suggests)
[19:45] <Saiki> <has a low font size
[19:45] <goddard> ikonia: how can i do it on ubuntu
[19:45] <goddard> ikonia: :D
[19:45] <boba88> ikonia:  is it possible to install a 32 bit version of ubunut and later upgrade it to 64 bit?
[19:45] <ikonia> goddard: it's nothing to do with ubuntu, so please don't ask
[19:46] <ikonia> boba88: no
[19:46] <havermyer> urlin2u: I'm not using any raid... i made sure it was turned off in my BIOS.  I am using a drive that used to be in a raid array, but i ran fixparts and it didn't show any leftover gpt info
[19:46] <ocmsRzr> I have a separate home partition that I've encrypted, but now I want to share it with another distro. How do I do that?
[19:46] <BlouBlou> boba88: it is not
[19:46] <goddard> ikonia: ok just for you is there a program lin xenu link slueth for Ubuntu
[19:46] <DeviceZer0> anyone have issues with windows disappearing on unity? This is happening to me all the time now and its super annoying. I have to find the pid then kill it..then restart it
[19:46] <MonkeyDust> {GiGi}  in that case, start here https://help.ubuntu.com/11.10/ubuntu-help/net-wired.html
[19:46] <urlin2u> havermyer, use it to shrink the sda2 W7 has a virtual partitioner. You then have to put a extended in the unallocated with gparted then the logical ext4 inside the exteneded, tyhen the swap inside as well, you have 3 primary partition 4 are only allowed or a exteneded with the 3 you have for the ubuntu install.
[19:46] <ikonia> goddard: I have no idea what no xenu link is
[19:47] <goddard> ikonia: then please keep your comments to yourself
[19:47] <wjlroe> zykotick9: unfortunately, no dice. I assumed font pkgs run that after installing anyway. puzzling
[19:47] <boba88> ikonia: let me try to burn it on another computer the 64 bit version of ubuntu 10.04 and try again
[19:47] <ikonia> goddard: er, no. That's not how it works. You ask ubuntu support questions, we answer if we can,
[19:47] <Saiki> anyone know what the japaneese channel is?
[19:47] <pangolin> goddard: please mind your attitude, this channel is not a one stop shop. I sent you a pm please take a look at it
[19:47] <urlin2u> havermyer, ask any questions if this is confusing.
[19:47] <auronandace> !attitude | goddard
[19:47] <MonkeyDust> goddard  it seems you've come to the wrong channel
[19:47] <ikonia> ok - I think it's got the message
[19:48] <goddard> i said please
[19:48] <LargePrime> lol
[19:48] <pangolin> goddard: drop it :)
[19:48] <ikonia> goddard: the topic of the channel is ubuntu support, there are other channels for non-ubuntu topics (such as using google)
[19:48] <{GiGi}> MonkeyDust, the thing is, DHCP seems to be working, else my other device that is usually connected with that cable wouldn't be working. I'm just not sure why ubuntu is not getting the requited info from the router
[19:48] <urlin2u> goddard, your lucky ikonia is in a good mood bro he has the ban hammer.
[19:48] <MonkeyDust> !jp| Saiki
[19:49] <LucidGuy> Confused..  if a view my .bash_history I find historical commands i'm looking for.  Yet if I history|grep command I don't?  Comments?
[19:49] <Saiki> yea.. thought it was gonna be jp lol
[19:49] <goddard> urlin2u: thats what my mom says
[19:49] <havermyer> urlin2u: digesting what you had to say lol... what's wierd is that i get the same problem if i try to install using wubi, which only creates virtual disks in the win fs... i'll give your advice a shot.  thanks for your help
[19:49] <boba88> ikonia: and i guess it is possible to upgrage the 64 bit version of ubuntu 10.04 to 11.10 64 bit
[19:49] <boba88> ?
[19:49] <ikonia> boba88: sure it is
[19:49] <infernal> Can anyone help me out with  and error? Error BrokenCount > 0. Got it after a failed installation of Eclipse.
[19:49] <pangolin> boba88: not directly
[19:49] <urlin2u> goddard, your momma is so fat that...
[19:49] <ikonia> urlin2u: also unacceptable
[19:49] <boba88> pangolin: how?
[19:49] <urlin2u> ikonia, soory my bad. :)
[19:49] <MonkeyDust> {GiGi}  what info is that exactly?
[19:49] <ikonia> !upgrade > boba88
[19:50] <ikonia> boba88: ubottu just sent you a private message with a link in, it's worth a read
[19:50] <pangolin> !upgrade > boba88
[19:51] <{GiGi}> MonkeyDust, well, apparently it doesn't get the right IPs from the router I guess, else it'd be connecting to the internet with no problem. Or an error might be techincal even, I can't say at this point..
[19:51] <paolo1> gertral
[19:51] <Jak2000> i am installed LAMP(in the first  installation of my server), how to verifi if installed apache+mysql+php ?
[19:52] <{GiGi}> 802.1x security is disabled, IPv4 is set to DHCP, IPv6 is disabled
[19:52] <{GiGi}> not having a cloned MAC set shouldn't be the cause either
[19:52] <bobweaver> Jak2000:  there are a couple of was about doing that. 1st for apache2 just open a browser and type in the IP address
[19:52] <MonkeyDust> {GiGi}  you mean the ip addresses are not in the same range as the router's ip address?
[19:52] <rcmaehl> I need help. My webcam isn't showing up under /dev/video* (/dev/video0 is my tvtuner) how do I make the pc recognize the camera?
[19:53] <bobweaver> Jak2000:  for php you can make the file under /var/www/index.html   to be index.php and put some php code in there
[19:53] <{GiGi}> MonkeyDust, shouldn't it use the IP it gets from the router?
[19:54] <MonkeyDust> {GiGi}  idd, that's why i'm asking
[19:54] <bobweaver> Jak2000:  mysql    in termina type in    mysql -u <username> -p    then hit enter
[19:55] <cha0sbg> Guys, what will be the result if someone that uses Optimus install ubuntu ? Will it use the build in slow video card or the fast GPU by default ?
[19:55] <rpg32> anyone good with webcams problems?
[19:55] <{GiGi}> it seems like it doesn't get any info from the router
[19:55] <rpg32> i can get the webcam working in camorama but not cheese
[19:55] <x-act> hello
[19:55] <rpg32> Bus 001 Device 006: ID 046d:08f6 Logitech, Inc. QuickCam Messenger Plus
[19:55] <ikonia> !webcam > rpg32
[19:55] <rpg32> I have already tried those pages
[19:55] <rpg32> they are not helpful
[19:56] <ikonia> rpg32: so say that instead of just repeating the same thing over and over
[19:56] <MonkeyDust> {GiGi}  if does not get *any* info, it sounds like a hardware issue to me
[19:56] <{GiGi}> I thought about that too, apparently this issue is on both of the machines I've gotten
[19:56] <rpg32> i did say that already
[19:56] <ray_> hi all. anyone here gotten lexmark printers to work in ubuntu?
[19:57] <rpg32> apparently repeating in required
[19:57] <cfhowlett> rpg32: try a different webcam tool: guvcview
[19:57] <rpg32> ok, i'll look at that
[19:57] <auronandace> ray_: depends which one
[19:57] <bobweaver> rpg32:  cheese does not work for you ? tryed vlc ?
[19:57] <rpg32> vlc doesn't work either
[19:57] <x-act> hey, is a german support channel there??????????
[19:57] <roberto> salve
[19:57] <ikonia> x-act: #ubuntu-de
[19:57] <MonkeyDust> !de| x-act
[19:58] <x-act> thank uuuu
[19:58] <roberto> list
[19:58] <ikonia> roberto: please don't
[19:58] <ikonia> !list > roberto
[19:58] <bobweaver> roberto:  not a file aharing channel
[19:58] <roberto> -list
[19:58] <Jak2000> ok bobweaver,
[19:58] <Jak2000> apache ok
[19:58] <bobweaver> Jak2000:  good
[19:58] <Somelauw> Is it generally cleaner to download a makefile from a website or to use some ppa if software in the standard repository is outdated like usual?
[19:58] <ikonia> Somelauw: neither
[19:59] <roberto> !list
[19:59] <rpg32> it works with guvcviewer
[19:59] <rpg32> but still not cheese or skype
[19:59] <cha0sbg> umm guys, is there a something diferent between normal cd and live cd ? as far as i know u can use normal cd to try ubuntu too so i dont get it
[20:00] <Jak2000> ok bobweaver, mysql ok
[20:00] <Somelauw> I want to install a new version of eclipse and the repositoty still has 3.5 instead of 3.7
[20:00] <ikonia> Somelauw: what is in 3.7 that you want ?
[20:00] <freedly> cha0sbg, there is aalternative as well as a miimal install as well.
[20:00] <Somelauw> But I haven't received any updates so far
[20:00] <cha0sbg> Somelauw: compile manually ?
[20:00] <zykotick9> cha0sbg: where are you seeing "normal cd"?
[20:00] <Somelauw> ikonia: Better integration with maven
[20:00] <bobweaver> Jak2000:  good
[20:00] <Jak2000> for php
[20:00] <Jak2000> googling
[20:00] <ikonia> Somelauw: either method will come with quite big risks of damaging the ubuntu core components
[20:01] <MonkeyDust> cha0sbg  with a live CD, you can try ubuntu without installing it
[20:01] <x-act> i cant open it, /join #ubuntu-de
[20:01] <FOXNET> hi all i am having an opengl problem can any one help me
[20:01] <cha0sbg> i refer to the default download of ubuntu, and i see there is another called live
[20:01] <ikonia> x-act: what is the error ?
[20:01] <rpg32> i get the following error with cheese: libv4l2: error turning on stream: Input/output error
[20:01] <Somelauw> ikonia: that sounds very scary
[20:01] <MonkeyDust> Somelauw  it is
[20:02] <ikonia> Somelauw: to be honest, it is, unless you are %101 confident with how to build software cleanly, or %110 understand what the PPA contains and how it will change your system
[20:02] <ikonia> Somelauw: it's not a good situation
[20:02] <bobweaver> Jak2000:  put <% phpinfo(); %>  in /var/www/index.html   and change name to be   index.php
[20:02] <MonkeyDust> Somelauw  do you need the bleeding edge for developping reasons?
[20:03] <x-act> there is no error
[20:03] <rpg32> so why would my webcam work with some applications but not others?
[20:03] <ikonia> x-act: why can you not join #ubuntu-de
[20:03] <Somelauw> MonkeyDust: No, it is just that I have all kinds of problems with setting up M2_REPO and maybe the new version has improvements.
[20:03] <Somelauw> Since version 3.5 is pretty old.
[20:03] <wjlroe> oh it appears Inconsolata isn't Unicode. works with rxvt - not with urxvt. Hmm
[20:04] <FOXNET> when I try to run opengl based apllication i got an error when I check with glxinfo i got http://pastebin.com/A9jyREYU can some one help me
[20:04] <zykotick9> wjlroe: good catch!
[20:04] <Jak2000> bobweaver: cd /var/www/     vi i.php
[20:05] <freedly> x-act, should go there with /join #ubuntu-de or click on it here to join
[20:05] <rpg32> anybody have any ideas?
[20:05] <zykotick9> FOXNET: looks like you might not have your graphics drivers installed
[20:05] <bobweaver> Jak2000:  you have used hosting services ion the past ?
[20:05] <Jak2000> and here write: <?php phpinfo() ?>       ESC ESC, :wq and give me a error: "i.php" E212: Can't open file for writing
[20:05] <user33> i have an old netbook and i was thinking of running a cut down version of ubuntu. its an eee pc with an intel atom. has anyone run into any issues with these types of netbook
[20:05] <Jak2000> yes
[20:06] <Jak2000> no proble,
[20:06] <user33> thanks jak
[20:06] <ikonia> you can't write to /var/www/html as a non-root user
[20:06] <Somelauw> MonkeyDust: I don't think Indigo is bleeding edge. It is the stable release, it is just not in the repositories.
[20:06] <bobweaver> Jak2000: look at permissions for that folder
[20:06] <Jak2000> ok
[20:06] <Jak2000> wait
[20:06] <freedly> user33, what is the ram, and disc size?
[20:06] <user33> ok
[20:06] <bobweaver> Jak2000:  are you in the group that you are tring to write to ?
[20:06] <user33> 15gb + another 15gb flash card and 1gb of ram
[20:06] <user33> but i think it can handle 2gb
[20:06] <Jak2000> not
[20:06] <bobweaver> trying *
[20:07] <cfhowlett> user33: kubuntu or lubuntu should do for you...
[20:07] <cha0sbg> So guys i had 1 more question for which i didn't get a answer: I have 2 video cards and i'm currently using ( windows 7 with OPTIMUS technology ) and if i install ubuntu and the drivers which video card will be used as default the built in intel card or the nVidia one ?
[20:07] <Jak2000> is a blnk installation of UBUNTU Servr
[20:07] <cfhowlett> user33: XUBUNTU not kubunut.  sorry
[20:07] <Somelauw> I'll just update. My computer sure will not explode.
[20:07] <freedly> user33, should not be aproblem, I would use a lighter desktop though like lubuntu myself for fast performance.
[20:07] <Somelauw> And even then, it is worth the try.
[20:07] <bobweaver> !permissions >> Jak2000
[20:07] <Jak2000> bobweaver: http://pastebin.com/Wss6a9iG
[20:07] <x-act> I cant change an channels, xchat shows me no errorssss
[20:07] <MonkeyDust> Somelauw  after you found out, you are the expert
[20:08] <auronandace> Somelauw: you've been made aware of the risks, don't complain if things break badly
[20:08] <FOXNET> zykotick9, i have installed mesa on my system and was playing tuxkart game about 2 weeks back. I tried reinstalling mesa and also FGLRX but its not working is there any fix for this issue
[20:08] <Ankhwatcher> Hey can anyone help me with forcing an output resolution?
[20:08] <zykotick9> FOXNET: sorry, if it's ATI (aka AMD) i can't/won't help.
[20:08] <bobweaver> Jak2000:  sudo nano index.html
[20:08] <user33> cfhowlett: sounds like a good idea i will give them a google.
[20:08] <x-act> sryy my english isn very well
[20:08] <freedly> x-act, right click this ##ubuntu-de and hit join channel
[20:08] <bobweaver> Jak2000:  or vi
[20:08] <infernal> Can anyone tell me what binnary suffix is for  i7-2630QM ?
[20:08] <ikonia> it's  not ##ubuntu-dev
[20:08] <ikonia> it's #ubuntu-de
[20:09] <ikonia> note the 1 #
[20:09] <user33> freedly: sounds good i will check this lubuntu out a light desktop sounds just what i am looking for
[20:09] <freedly> x-act, sorry #ubuntu -de
[20:09] <bobweaver> Jak2000:  you might want to look at making a group and also permissions
[20:09] <bobweaver> !permissions | Jak2000
[20:09] <ikonia> !de | x-act
[20:09] <freedly> user33, cool enjoy. :)
[20:09] <user33> most of what i do is on the terminal anyway, but its nice to have a gui there as well. they both have there uses
[20:09] <ssta> freedly: that only works in some clients
[20:09] <freedly> ssta, he has xchat
[20:09] <RedWar> thomasj well, I have done more research, I could not remove any more due to codependency issues... so I researched more on downgrade.  Apparently if I downgrade to libgcc-4.6.0-9 , this might resolve this issue.. but when I use the yum downgrade.. it tells me only version 10 is available.. Can't downgrade libgcc.
[20:10] <dadrc> ikonia, aight. what do you need?
[20:10] <Jak2000> bobweaver: done!
[20:10] <ikonia> dadrc: ahh, thanks could you help x-act
[20:10] <bobweaver> Jak2000:  cool now go to browser and type in the ipaddress
[20:10] <freedly> ssta, but thanks for your concerns :)
[20:10] <RedWar> I am going by this forum, which seems to be the only one in googledom that is addressing wine failed install on F16
[20:10] <its_falling> Hi, I'm an Ubuntu newbie - could you let me know why 32 bit ubuntu is listed as recommended, but 64 bit ubuntu is not?
[20:10] <Jak2000> bobweaver yes
[20:11] <RedWar> http://fedoraforum.org/forum/showthread.php?p=1499901
[20:11] <bobweaver> Jak2000:  Did you rename the file to index.php    ?
[20:11] <RedWar> oops
[20:11] <RedWar> wrong place
[20:11] <RedWar> lol
[20:11] <RedWar> nm
[20:11] <FloodBot1> RedWar: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[20:11] <MonkeyDust> its_falling  because 32 runs on any hardware, 64 only on 64 capable hardware
[20:11] <auronandace> its_falling: because the 32bit one works on both
[20:11] <pangolin> its_falling: 32bit will work on 64bit machine but not the other way around.
[20:11] <MrMist1> ehm... help. I've got problems with GRUB on a two-disk system. Win 7 on /dev/sdb (ssd) and Ubuntu on /dev/sda. Installed fresh system, but I chose /dev/sda for GRUB. My system still boot straight into Win7
[20:11] <cfhowlett> !64bit>cfhwolett
[20:11] <FOXNET> Is there any ATI/AMD card owners, who knows how to fix opengl issue: Error: couldn't find RGB GLX visual or fbconfig (cmd glxinfo output : http://pastebin.com/A9jyREYU)
[20:11] <its_falling> So, if I have a 64 bit system, I can just download the 64-bit version safely right?
[20:11] <cfhowlett> !64bit>cfhowlett
[20:11] <Somelauw> Then, I'm badass
[20:11] <freedly> cfhowlett,  That is the least of the problem eh
[20:12] <MonkeyDust> its_falling  yes
[20:12] <its_falling> Great, thanks guys :)
[20:12] <auronandace> its_falling: yes, works great here
[20:12] <cfhowlett> !64bit|its_falling
[20:12] <bobweaver> MrMist1:  you are going to need to boot a live cd and re-install grub
[20:12] <dadrc> ikonia, sure thing. What's up?
[20:12] <havermyer> Does anybody know why ubiquity would not show any of my partitions?  done a lot of googling on this and coming up empty...
[20:12] <ikonia> dadrc: he's struggling to grasp how to use xchat to join #ubuntu-de
[20:12] <MrMist1> bobweaver: I'm on a liveCD right now
[20:12] <ikonia> dadrc: a little bit of native German may help
[20:12] <dadrc> ikonia, yeah, got that. but who? :)
[20:12] <ikonia> dadrc: x-act is the user
[20:13] <MrMist1> bobweaver: How do I reinstall GRUB, and which commands do I run? I've been trying to google it, but can't find out..
[20:13] <freedly> !pm > cfhowlett
[20:13] <dadrc> ikonia, oh. my bad. sure.
[20:13] <bobweaver> MrMist1:  please read this http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1851164
[20:13] <ikonia> dadrc: thanks
[20:13] <bobweaver> MrMist1:  Post #2
[20:13] <its_falling> Another question: does wubi have any disadvantages?
[20:13] <dadrc> x-act, ok if I query you?
[20:13] <MonkeyDust> its_falling  yes: its existence
[20:13] <its_falling> hahahaha
[20:13] <its_falling> mind explaining?
[20:13] <auronandace> its_falling: its meant to be more of a preview
[20:13] <cfhowlett> its_falling: wubi is not good for long-term use per the developer
[20:13] <its_falling> ahh
[20:13] <ssta> its_falling: it's slower than a native install
[20:14] <its_falling> I see, I see.
[20:14] <cadz> hi all, i'm trying to edit sambas smb.conf, and all im getting is "no mailcap rules found for type "application/octet-stream"
[20:14] <its_falling> Alright, I'm going to suck it up and get an ubuntu install running.
[20:14] <MrMist1> bobweaver: I'm using a two-disk system, that's two MBR's
[20:14] <Saiki> lol if it isn't one thing it's another.. not my usb drive won't mount..
[20:14] <ikonia> MrMist1: shouldn't be
[20:15] <its_falling> I FINALLY HAVE A NEED FOR IT! (I struggled with trying to install gstreamer + gst-python, and getting things like gst-inspect etc. to work (on Windows), and I finally realized, god - I have a reason to use linux_
[20:15] <MrMist1> ikonia: what?
[20:15] <Saiki> and as I say that it mounts.. *shrugs*
[20:15] <ikonia> MrMist1: 2 disks doesn't = 2 mbrs
[20:15] <cadz> hi all, i'm trying to edit sambas smb.conf, and all im getting is "no mailcap rules found for type "application/octet-stream"
[20:16] <MrMist1> ikonia: Hmm.. ok. But my Ubuntu is on sdb, and my win7 is on sda
[20:16] <ssta> MonkeyDust: wubi isn't THAT bad for an evil hack that's designed to help the clueless...For what it is, it's quite well executed
[20:16] <havermyer> cadz: i'd try going to a terminal and running sudo nano -w smb.conf in the directory that it resides in
[20:17] <Jak2000> bobweaver: accept a private message
[20:17] <Jak2000> pls
[20:17] <bobweaver> Jak2000:  sure
[20:17] <cadz> how do i get out havermyer
[20:17] <Guest66085> hi
[20:17] <dodooo> Hi, I'm a beginner, I have Ubuntu and I'd like to know how to install the drivers for my Ati Radeon 5700 Series (if it's that that explains the awful sound I have instead of my music), can someone help me please ?
[20:17] <havermyer> Does anybody know why ubiquity would not show any of my partitions?  done a lot of googling on this and coming up empty...
[20:17] <havermyer> cadz: out of what?
[20:18] <its_falling> ssta: "the clueless?"
[20:18] <cadz> i didnt do it in the directory nvm
[20:18] <Ankhwatcher> havermyer: smb.conf probably
[20:18] <auronandace> havermyer: do you have gparted open at the same time?
[20:18] <its_falling> ssta: How did you end up becoming not-clueless?
[20:18] <ssta> its_falling: Poor choice of words perhaps...
[20:18] <Ankhwatcher> cadz: if you're using nano it's ctrl+x
[20:18] <havermyer> cadz: lol ctrl-x, sry
[20:19] <havermyer> auronandace: doesn't seem to make a difference if i have gparted open at the same time
[20:19] <havermyer> auronandace: so... yes and no
[20:19] <ssta> its_falling: originally?  I bought a bootload of 486s cheap and built systems from sourcce on them
[20:19] <its_falling> ssta: Nah, I'm not attacking you. It's just that when I'm talking to linux users, I often hear similar things beind said, and I wonder what part of life I'm missing out on, apart from romantic relationships.
[20:19] <its_falling> ssta: Like, I want to be part of this secret, non-clueless universe.
[20:20] <boba88> ikonia: i now burned the 11.10 64 bit on a dvd instead of a cd and it booted... but now i get the following problem "ncing: attempted to kill init", giving me some call trace ...
[20:20] <auronandace> havermyer: if gparted sees it then ubiquity should too
[20:20] <ssta> its_falling: haha...I've spent the last 15 years learning Linux...I spent the 10 years before that learning other systems.  Perhaps if I said "the inexperienced" instead it might sound better?
[20:20] <dadrc> ikonia, doesn't answer me, but I left him a detailed explanation (on joining a channel -.-) in a query.
[20:20] <MrMist1> bobweaver: OK... so I'm still baffled here... afraid I'll delete something on /dev/sdb (win7) if I do grub-install /dev/sdb.
[20:20] <ikonia> dadrc: thanks, appreciated
[20:20] <boba88> ikonia: it says kernel panic, not syncing
[20:20] <havermyer> auronandace: my partitions do shwo up in gparted, but not ubiquity :/
[20:20] <ikonia> boba88: that's not good,
[20:21] <its_falling> ssta: Ohhh. hahaha, alright, alright. I see what you mean.
[20:21] <ssta> its_falling: the ONLY way to be "not-clueless" is to spend years working at it...anyone who claims otherwise is lying to you (usually to try to sell you something)
[20:21] <boba88> ikonia: what about the kernel options that i can set prior to installation using the live cd.. i selected nomodest
[20:21] <auronandace> havermyer: which ubuntu are you installing from?
[20:21] <ikonia> boba88: that's just a visual thing and should not create that problem
[20:22] <Ankhwatcher> So, can anyone help me with setting the resolution on this computer? I installed a KVM and now the linux box cannot tell what resolution the monitor is. I'm using nvidia drivers.
[20:22] <havermyer> auronandace: 11.10 64-bit livecd - i get the same problem under wubi... though i'm not sure that i tried gparted under wubi
[20:22] <boba88> ikonia: any suggestions on what could be the problem :)
[20:22] <ikonia> boba88: not without a reasonable level of research
[20:22] <auronandace> !bug | havermyer
[20:22] <ikonia> boba88: have you tried the alternative install CD image ?
[20:22] <DM> anyone good with xubuntu?
[20:22] <boba88> ikonia: what do you mean the alternative
[20:22] <boba88> ikonia: what do you mean the alternative?
[20:23] <DM> I'm haveing an issue downloading xubuntu using the live image....
[20:23] <pragmaticenigma> DM, what is your question?
[20:23] <ikonia> boba88: http://www.ubuntu.com/download/ubuntu/alternative-download#alternate
[20:23] <ikonia> boba88: the alternative install CD has a different install method
[20:23] <DM> i'm trying to download xubuntu 10.04 for ppc on my g3 mac, but it isn't recognizing the hard drive...
[20:24] <DM> i'm new to linux
[20:24] <auronandace> !ppc | DM
[20:24] <boba88> ikonia: how different is the alternate, i am tryng the desktop one
[20:24] <k1l> x-act: lass deinen irc client nicht als root laufen, dann kommst du auch in den deutschen #ubuntu-de channel
[20:25] <ikonia> boba88: it's the same install (exactly the same as the desktop) it just uses a different install method
[20:26] <boba88> ikonia: ok will try that one too
[20:26] <cadz> how do i get into a directory lol
[20:26] <ixnos> hello
[20:26] <auronandace> cadz: cd /whereyouwanttogo
[20:26] <cadz> tA
[20:27] <ixnos> I'm learning how to use this irssi.
[20:27] <ixnos> New to IRC.
[20:28] <jen__> how the heck can I put music on my itouch 4G from ubuntu? My virtualbox will NOT recognize my ipod either. I need a legit way to do it
[20:28] <Ankhwatcher> cadz: in linux ~ will stand in for your home directory, ie ~/docs is the same place as /home/cadz/docs
[20:28] <cadz> ok nice
[20:29] <Ankhwatcher> cadz: also directory and file names can be autocompleted by pressing Tab after you have started typing them
[20:30] <auronandace> !cookie | Ankhwatcher
[20:30] <cadz> gahd i give up with samba
[20:30] <Ankhwatcher> uh thanks
[20:30] <cadz> all i wanted to do was to share my windows folder
[20:30] <cadz> and it wont fkn let me
[20:30] <fr0stbyte> can anyone spot my permission issue? can't touch a file even though im in the group owner of folder and it's 775. tia http://o7.no/xPTHCh
[20:31] <Ankhwatcher> cadz: so wait, what happened when you edited samba.conf?
[20:31] <boba88> ikonia: but the alternate is a torrent
[20:31] <boba88> ikonia: i might have trouble when downloading torrent as far as i know
[20:31] <rmc3> frostbite, it's because /var/www is owned by root root
[20:32] <ikonia> boba88: you don't need to use a torrent
[20:32] <rmc3> er
[20:32] <rmc3> neverming
[20:32] <del_> hello everyone.
[20:32] <rmc3> that's /var
[20:32] <rmc3> don't listen to me
[20:32] <FloodBot1> rmc3: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[20:32] <pragmaticenigma> Ankhwatcher: There is a much easier way to setup Samba shares than messing with the conf file
[20:32]  * rmc3 hides in shame.
[20:32] <ssta> fr0stbyte: what is: ls -ld /var/www ?
[20:32] <fr0stbyte> ssta: drwxrwxr-x 2 www-data www-data 4096 2012-02-12 15:25 /var/www
[20:32] <del_> i installed ubuntu yesterday, so i keep coming across errors... and am wondering how to fix the latest one:  (gksu:31518): Gtk-WARNING **: Unable to locate theme engine in module_path: "pixmap"
[20:32] <del_> what does that mean?
[20:32] <boba88> ikonia: the link you gave me gives me just torrents
[20:33] <Ankhwatcher> pragmaticenigma: as someone who's desktop is in 640x480 you'll have to excuse me for stickiing with the console.
[20:33] <ikonia> boba88: no it's not, READ the linkl
[20:33] <pragmaticenigma> I didn't know there was that constraint
[20:34] <fr0stbyte> ssta: so that suggests this issue is FUBAR?
[20:34] <Ankhwatcher> pragmaticenigma: there isn't for cadz, jsut for me
[20:34] <fr0stbyte> i did set my /etc/profile and pam.so to umask 002
[20:34] <Ankhwatcher> pragmaticenigma: I'm on here trying to get help with resolution settings
[20:34] <fr0stbyte> aka 775.. so that should be fine
[20:34] <del_> anyone? :-)
[20:34] <pragmaticenigma> Ah, maybe I can help you Ankhwatcher
[20:34] <auronandace> fr0stbyte: we don't appreciate such acronyms as fubar here
[20:34] <ssta> fr0stbyte: no, you need to enable the SGID bit on the directory
[20:34] <ixnos> g
[20:35] <Ankhwatcher> pragmaticenigma: well that would be much appreciated
[20:35] <ssta> fr0stbyte: sudo chmod g+s /var/www
[20:35] <zykotick9> fr0stbyte: have you looked out/back in since adding yourself to the www-data group?
[20:35] <ixnos> is there a way to stop seeing people who enver and leave?
[20:35] <fr0stbyte> auronandace: sorry.
[20:35] <pragmaticenigma> Ankhwatcher: Can you fill me in one what your specs are and what you have tried so far?
[20:35] <zykotick9> fr0stbyte: s/looked/logged/
[20:35] <boba88> ikonia: now downloading ubuntu-11.10-alternate-amd64.iso
[20:35] <Ankhwatcher> pragmaticenigma: I'm using an nvidia card with nvidia drivers, everything was fine until I installed a kvm
[20:35] <auronandace> fr0stbyte: no worries
[20:35] <fr0stbyte> ssta: didnt work, gonna try logging out like zykotick9 suggests
[20:35] <boba88> ikonia: will try with that and if that does not work gonna install 10.04 64 bit and then upgrade if necessary
[20:35] <pragmaticenigma> Ankhwatcher: do you have the XEN kernel enabled?
[20:36] <fr0stbyte> that was it
[20:36] <Ankhwatcher> pragmaticenigma: now the linux box cannot detect the monitor resolutions and will only allow 640x480
[20:36] <Ankhwatcher> pragmaticenigma: I have no idea, when did that come about?
[20:36] <fr0stbyte> haha! wow thanks zykotick9 its the simple things
[20:37] <pragmaticenigma> Ankhwatcher: oops... sorry... didn't realize KVM meant something else... Keyboard/Monitor/Mouse?
[20:37] <Ankhwatcher> pragmaticenigma: yeah it's a two port Keyboard, Video, Mouse switcher
[20:37] <pragmaticenigma> Ankhwatcher: Got it, thanks... Do you have a xorg.conf file created?
[20:38] <cadz> Ankhwatcher: a tutorial tells me to edit something not even in there
[20:38] <edwardthefma> i need some advice of dealing with some Ddos'ers
[20:38] <tyler> anyone familiar with macbuntu, that may be able to help me fix my panel bar? here's my problem: http://oi40.tinypic.com/ivwdxe.jpg
[20:38] <ikonia> edwardthefma: in what respect ?
[20:38] <edwardthefma> leagle action
[20:38] <ikonia> tyler: macbuntu is a terrible theme product that will potentially cause issues with your machine
[20:38] <ikonia> edwardthefma: not something #ubuntu helps with
[20:39] <ikonia> edwardthefma: ubuntu technical support only
[20:39] <tyler> ikonia: what would you suggest?
[20:39] <pragmaticenigma> cadz, ocassionally things are omitted from the default file, you should add it if it isn't there
[20:39] <ikonia> tyler: not using it,
[20:39] <Ankhwatcher> cadz: yeah sometimes the files move around, old tutorials can say the wrong thing
[20:39] <mongy> tyler: I think mac4lin is a little better
[20:39] <cadz> man why should every new person go through this
[20:40] <pushpop> When I leave my computer idle for a period of time my gnome-shell uses 90-100% cpu.  I'm running 3.2.1 with a 9800gtx with the most current nvidia-current drivers.  When I run "r" everything returns to normal.  Any idea's?
[20:40] <Ankhwatcher> cadz: as pragmaticenigma pointed out to me you can set this up in the settings, have you tried that?
[20:40] <havermyer> for anyone who was following my problems earlier, I finally found the answer - I had to sudo dmraid -r -E /dev/sda to remove old raid metadata that was on the disk
[20:40] <edwardthefma> well i cam hear knowing that thare are victems and thos who do the  crime
[20:40] <ikonia> tyler: mac4lin is also a terrible setup of software/themes
[20:40] <cadz> na its k
[20:40] <tyler> ikonia: is just a hatin'
[20:40] <ikonia> edwardthefma: not something this channel deals with
[20:40] <cadz> ill try it another day lol
[20:40] <cfhowlett> !ot>edwardthefma
[20:40] <cadz> thanks for your help Ankhwatcher
[20:40] <ikonia> tyler: no, I'm not, I'm trying to protect you from poor quality software that is known to cause issues with your install
[20:41] <ikonia> tyler: you are free to ignore my advice/warnings and use it
[20:41] <Ankhwatcher> cadz: no problem
[20:41] <gdea73> For my web server, I still have a question about file permissions...
[20:41] <tyler> well, i like the feel and look of mac.. any other alternatives?
[20:41] <ikonia> tyler: buy a mac
[20:41] <tyler> ikonia: lmfao.
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[20:41] <ikonia> tyler: I'm not laughing, you like how a mac looks and works, use a mac
[20:41] <gdea73> I've got them set to 774 (owner is g73net:www-data), but I want new files to be automatically set to 774 when created or copied into /var/www
[20:42] <Ankhwatcher> pragmaticenigma: yes, I just went to /etc and found it
[20:42] <gdea73> is there any relatively easy way to accomplish this?
[20:42] <mongy> tyler: if you grab the mac4lin file and extract it, ignore the install script, just look in the folder and you will see the theme files and icon theme file, pretty much all you need.  It wont install a dock or any of that but, yo ucan do that yourself.
[20:42] <MacGyverNL> I'm on an ubuntu machine which I have no administrative privileges on, and want to change my default editor. update-alternatives is sysadmin only, afaik - so how do I change it, aside from simply setting EDITOR in my bashrc?
[20:42] <pragmaticenigma> tyler: there might be a spot between your magnifying class and the drop box icon to let you drag the block over... you might be able to right click there and unlock it so you can move it
[20:42] <cfhowlett> tyler: the backgrounds are readily available, the panel appearances are likely already in system or available and the AWN provides most of the panel effects.  DIY
[20:42] <pragmaticenigma> tyler: you could also see if trying to move the clock to the right forces the icons to line up as you prefer
[20:42] <acicula> MacGyverNL: whats wrong with setting the EDITOR variable?
[20:43] <ubuntuaddicted> how about using all 3? I love it!
[20:43] <pragmaticenigma> Ankhwatcher: K... It might be worth renaming it to something like xorf.conf__bak and reboot... let the system try and rebuild it
[20:43] <tyler> pragmaticenigma: i tried that, didn't seem to work.
[20:43] <MacGyverNL> acicula: Considering the existence of update-alternatives I figured there might be a "cleaner" way.
[20:43] <dlentz> the system won't automatically generate xorg.conf
[20:44] <ubuntuaddicted> OS X, Windows, and Debian based Linux.
[20:44] <acicula> MacGyverNL: nope, update-alternatives is system wide
[20:44] <pragmaticenigma> tyler: unfortunatly custom spins of ubuntu like that aren't supported here... at the place you downloaded, there should be some sort of support forum that your question might be better suited for
[20:44] <ubuntuaddicted> who's buying UbuntuTV when it comes out?
[20:44] <tyler> pragmaticenigma: you're tha man! thanks dude. your first suggestion worked. (:
[20:44] <ikonia> ubuntuaddicted: this is a support channel - not ubuntu TV polling channel
[20:44] <Ankhwatcher> pragmaticenigma: okay, I'll give that a try. Back on in a bit.
[20:44] <ikonia> ubuntuaddicted: what are you talking about ?
[20:44] <pragmaticenigma> cool tyler, glad to hear it
[20:44] <ubuntuaddicted> buwahhahahaa, oops. thought I was in Ubuntu-offtopic section. see ya
[20:45] <gdea73> anyway... so I have permissions 774 (drwxrwxr--) set recursively on /var/www, and all the files and directories inside. I just want NEW files to be automatically set to 774 when copied there. Ideas, please?
[20:45] <pragmaticenigma> tyler: One thing I have learned when trying to move stuff around is sometimes the "handle" to activate the container is hidden right next to the object you want to move
[20:45] <cha0sbg> @everyone: Bumblebee or Ironhide, which is better ?
[20:45] <Galvatron> tyler: I strongly recommend avoiding unofficial "remixes" of Ubuntu
[20:45] <oCean> cha0sbg: no polls here
[20:45] <cha0sbg> oCean: I just wanna know which to install :)
[20:45] <pragmaticenigma> gdea73: About the only thing I have seen that works, is to set a script to scan the folder and do the permissions setting... otherwise you will have to manually set the permissions each time you add a file
[20:46] <oCean> cha0sbg: try them both, decide for yourself
[20:46] <cfhowlett> cha0sbg: costs zero to add both and see for yourself...
[20:46] <gdea73> pragmaticenigma: alright, that makes sense... are there any pre-written scripts for use for that purpose?
[20:46] <tyler> pragmaticenigma: yeah, thanks for the info. that seems to be what was wrong.
[20:46] <Galvatron> tyler: In general, they are a source of strange issues, not occuring in regular version. if you want to customize the system, do it on your own, so you will have a full control over the process.
[20:46] <recon69_lap> conference? on a sunday!!!!
[20:46] <MacGyverNL> acicula: Tx, I'll just stick with EDITOR then.
[20:46] <pragmaticenigma> gdea73: I don't know of any, because it's usually considered a bad idea since the script could edit the wrong files unintentionally
[20:47] <cha0sbg> Isn't this for support and share of experience ?
[20:47] <ikonia> cha0sbg: sure, ubuntu support
[20:48] <tyler> pragmaticenigma: one more issue, do you know how i can get the sound control button back on the panel?
[20:48] <zacarias> Hi. How can I delete the contents of a memory card? I tried deleting, running chown and rm -rf commands, and it keeps saying that I have no permissions :-(
[20:48] <cha0sbg> yea ... but since there wont be support for Optimus untill 12.04 cant i ask for suggestions, and people who already stuggled with the issue ?
[20:48] <ikonia> cha0sbg: what are you talking about
[20:48] <mongy> zacarias: is it write protected?
[20:48] <pragmaticenigma> tyler: I saw an article a while back... let me see if I can find it for oyu
[20:49] <cha0sbg> ikonia: Just nevermind ...
[20:49] <ikonia> no problem
[20:49] <pragmaticenigma> cha0sbg: there is a support channel for future releases of ubuntu
[20:50] <recon_lap> pragmaticenigma: add the indicator applet to your toolbar
[20:50] <pragmaticenigma> tahnk recon_lap ... tyler: right click on the panel, click add, choose indicator applet
[20:51] <pangolin> cha0sbg: #ubuntu+1 for support and discussion of 12.04 and maybe take a look at http://www.ruyk.com/tech/?p=68
[20:51] <gdea73> pragmaticenigma: ah okay, you're probably right - eventually I'd like some files to have permissions 775, in the case of PHP scripts which must be run by the user. Ah well, thanks for giving a useful answer... the stuff I found on various forums was merely confusing :P
[20:51] <Karmaon> Is anybody else annoyed by the fact that chromium asks me to sign in with a google account?
[20:52] <ikonia> Karmaon: not an ubuntu issue
[20:52] <pragmaticenigma> Karmaon: You don't HAVE to login, it's just helpful if you want to
[20:53] <recon_lap> corporations being evil is all to common and everyones problem ;-)
[20:53] <Karmaon> pragmaticenigma: I thought google only had integrated chrome with their services, not chrimoum
[20:53] <Karmaon> heh, time to switch to firefox
[20:54] <zacarias> mongy: no, I checked that, it's unlocked
[20:54] <pragmaticenigma> Karmaon: Chromium is the development version of Chrome... so somethings are in both
[20:54] <pragmaticenigma> Karmaon: But you are not required to login, it's optional and you should be able to just use Chromium
[20:55] <Galvatron> cha0sbg: Using alpha releases makes no sense, unless you are planning to actively participate in the development.
[20:57] <theadmin> Karmaon: Both Chromium and Google Chrome are Google products, except Google Chrome includes closed-source plugins of some sorts (Flash, PDF reader, etc)
[20:57] <theadmin> Karmaon: You don't have to sign in to Chromium if you don't want to... Though you won't have the Sync
[20:58] <Karmaon> theadmin: Yeah, I understand.
[20:59] <boba88> ikonia: the alternate works better
[21:00] <boba88> ikonia: now i am in the installation process and the installation asks me to choose between "etho:Atheros Communcations L2 fast ethernet" and "eth1: Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd. Rtl-....."
[21:00] <boba88> ikonia: what would you suggest to choose?
[21:01] <ikonia> well, they are different network cards
[21:01] <LjL> boba88: those are network cards. you apparently have two of them. you need to be the one deciding which one to use :P
[21:01] <ikonia> boba88: one is your wireless, one is your wired,
[21:01] <ikonia> boba88: pick which one you want to use
[21:01] <runa> hi everybody i have a laptop and battery is very important to me. I have 4 gb ram. I wanted to know how can i reduce the cpu usage
[21:02] <tyler> pragmaticenigma: thanks, it worked. although, now there is a mail icon within the applet.. anyway to remove just the mail icon rather than the whole applet?
[21:02] <boba88> ikonia: eth0 is the lan? and the other one wlan
[21:02] <ikonia> boba88: correct
[21:02] <boba88> ikonia: thanks
[21:02] <pragmaticenigma> tyler: Nope, can't have one without the other
[21:02] <Galvatron> theadmin: To my knowledge, Chromium is an independent, open-source project, being rebranded by Google, after adding their proprietary stuff.
[21:03] <nina> hi, is it normal that linux has some problems with web connection
[21:03] <nina> wireless connection
[21:03] <nina> ?
[21:03] <dlentz> nina, no
[21:03] <MonkeyDust> Galvatron  i havent followed, but Chrome is based on Chromium
[21:03] <theadmin> Galvatron: Might be the case too
[21:03] <tyler> pragmaticenigma: shouldn't the network icon be within the indicator applet as well?
[21:04] <dlentz> nina, do you know what wireless chip you have?
[21:04] <theadmin> Galvatron: However, Chromium definetly has Google bits in it (The Sync requires a Google account, for instance)
[21:04] <nina> no, how can i check it?
[21:04] <dlentz> lspci
[21:05] <nina> i have linux for about year
[21:05] <bobweaver> nina:  sudo lshw -c networking
[21:06] <Galvatron> nina: And use pastebin, to not fllod the channel
[21:06] <trism> tyler: the mail icon is indicator-messages, uninstall that and it will be gone
[21:07] <nina> sorry
[21:07] <pragmaticenigma> tyler: I think it's seperate because network monitor isn't needed if the computer is hardwired desktop
[21:07] <nina> Galvatron u have to be easier, I'm a girl :-)
[21:07] <nina> and english is not my native
[21:08] <Galvatron> Mine neither
[21:08] <nina> actullay I'm confiused why this chat is working
[21:08] <Galvatron> http://pastebin.com/
[21:08] <nina> web sides doesn't
[21:08] <ssta> nina: dns issue maybe?
[21:09] <Galvatron> Have you chcecked under non-Linux system?
[21:09] <ikonia> nina: your card is clearly working
[21:09] <nina> yes i have 3 computers at home, only linux doesn't work
[21:09] <ikonia> nina: you are using ubuntu xchat on a 32bit system with a PAE kernel
[21:09] <ikonia> nina: this machine is connected to the net just fine
[21:12] <CXIV> Are LTS point releases only fixing bugs or adding also software updates?
[21:12] <ikonia> CXIV: depends.
[21:12] <cfhowlett> !lts|cxiv
[21:12] <ikonia> cfhowlett: how is that helpful ?
[21:13] <CXIV> ikonia Is it possible to disable software updates?
[21:13] <pragmaticenigma> CXIV: If you want software updates, you will need to enable backports
[21:13] <ikonia> CXIV: sure, but why would you want to do that ?
[21:14] <MonkeyDust> just don't update, i'd say
[21:14] <CXIV> ikonia Because im ex-debian user? :D
[21:14] <theadmin> CXIV: Most of the time the software in x.x.x releases is *somewhat* higher than in x.x, but not anything you can't get via apt updates
[21:14] <ssta> because updating production servers isn't something to do automatically?
[21:14] <ikonia> CXIV: again - why would you wnat to not update ?
[21:14] <theadmin> ssta: Ubuntu doesn't have automatic updates...
[21:14] <CXIV> ikonia I want only bugfixes.
[21:14] <meetri> anyone play with cinnamon desktop ?
[21:14] <theadmin> CXIV: That's not possible... bugfixes ARE updates.
[21:15] <theadmin> meetri: I have. It's cute, but a bit slow.
[21:15] <MonkeyDust> disable update manager and don't update manually
[21:15] <ssta> theadmin: umm, yes it does...it's a setting in update mangler
[21:15] <ikonia> CXIV: you can manually select what updates to apply,
[21:15] <CXIV> OK
[21:15] <CXIV> Thanks :)
[21:15] <ikonia> CXIV: you'll find that software isn't updated at a version level though, so I think your concerns are false
[21:15] <theadmin> ssta: Oh... I don't remember when I last used update manager xD
[21:16] <pragmaticenigma> ikonia: I don't always want updates on my MythTV machine because sometimes certain supporting applications break things within MythTV causing me to lose the ability to watch certain video files and stuff
[21:16] <kremlon> http://ideone.com/B52ZZ
[21:16] <pragmaticenigma> ikonia: MythTV machine runs Mythbuntu 10.04 for that reason
[21:16] <Blue11> pragmaticenigma: what is mythtv?
[21:16] <CXIV> Anyway you recommend updating if I don't have problems with a system?
[21:16] <ikonia> pragmaticenigma: I'd suspect you have external repos enabled
[21:16] <ikonia> CXIV: yes
[21:17] <ssta> CXIV: dependson other things..
[21:17] <kremlon> http://ideone.com/B52ZZ
[21:17] <pragmaticenigma> ikonia: At this point the only software updates that come for 10.04 are security patches
[21:17] <ikonia> kremlon: repeating that doesn't change anything
[21:17] <pragmaticenigma> !mythtv
[21:17] <ikonia> pragmaticenigma: so you are suggesting that security updates are breaking mythTV compatability /
[21:17] <kremlon> mystical is'nt it :o <-3 :o
[21:18] <pragmaticenigma> ikonia: NO, i'm saying that sometimes applicaiton updates (unrealted to security) like upgrading firefox to 10 versus the security patch update for 3.x
[21:18] <meetri> maybe this is general question. I installed cinnamon ( i kinda like it ) and now when I start it, no desktop appears. I purged it, re-installed it. and still no desktop. Turns out my gnome desktop was also borked, but I was able to just clear the .gnome settings and i was back in business. what can i do for this cinnamon desktop i was using? and ideas? thanks
[21:18] <ece_man> do you guys think that Ubuntu will live long enough still given that Linux Mint is about to take its top spot?
[21:18] <ssta> depends what the system is for, and what the impact of downtime might be
[21:18] <ikonia> pragmaticenigma: firefox updates should not touch mythtv
[21:18] <pragmaticenigma> ece_man: That isn't a topic for this chat room
[21:18] <ece_man> anyway linux mint is based from ubuntu
[21:18] <ece_man> oh sorry
[21:18] <pragmaticenigma> ikonia: It was an example
[21:19] <ikonia> pragmaticenigma: I'll re-phrase, no software from the ubuntu repos should cause a conflict/break with other software from the ubuntu repos
[21:19] <CXIV> ece_man Linux Mint is Slow-Mo derviative of Ubuntu.
[21:19] <ece_man> yeah i agree still using ubuntu :)
[21:20] <ssta> CXIV: not sure that's a fair assessment...but it's not really on topic anyway
[21:20] <pragmaticenigma> ikonia: Typically your right, but I have had issues with codecs
[21:20] <mongy> ece_man: I see no point in derivatives like mine when ubuntu has other DE's
[21:20] <mongy> mine=mint
[21:20] <CXIV> ssta Sorry
[21:20] <ece_man> yup yup :)
[21:20] <pragmaticenigma> !offtopic |ece_man, CXIV,, ssta
[21:21] <pangolin> meetri: cinnamon as in Mint?
[21:21] <ece_man> I'm just wondering how come other people are saying that Linux Mint is better wherein it was also based from Ubuntu.
[21:21] <kremlon> hope they didnt inject my xchat
[21:21] <kremlon> :o
[21:21] <pragmaticenigma> !offtopic |ece_man
[21:21] <boba88> ikonia: in the text based alternate installer i do not have the option to set the mount point of the swap partition
[21:21] <meetri> pangolin: well not really. i am running it on ubuntu
[21:21] <ikonia> ece_man: because based on is not the same as "the same" - it's personal opinion, people like different things
[21:22] <ikonia> boba88: there is no mount point for swap partitions
[21:22] <meetri> pangolin: but i must say i am also running gnome 3.2
[21:22] <chuck1310> Mint has a nice gnome3 customized desktop manager
[21:22] <boba88> ikonia: i made it logical 3 gig, and do not mount..,., but then the partitioner warned me that it wont be used at all
[21:22] <boba88> ikonia: is that ok
[21:22] <boba88> ?
[21:23] <ikonia> boba88: you don't have a mount point for sawp
[21:23] <ikonia> swap
[21:23] <meetri> chuck1310: is that the only thing mint offers ?
[21:23] <pragmaticenigma> !mint |chuck1310
[21:23] <LjL> boba88: the important thing is it's marked as type swap
[21:23] <spotterdox> hi
[21:23] <boba88> LjL: you mean Label : swap
[21:24] <chuck1310> meetri: it's a nice Linux distribution for casual user like Ubuntu but I prefer Ubuntu
[21:24] <spotterdox> im trying to install lrssi client in ubuntu but i need help
[21:24] <LjL> boba88: no, i don't think that's what i mean. it should be of *type* swap, the label is unimportant
[21:24] <boba88> LjL: this is the alternate installer and it is not that much friendly
[21:25] <LjL> boba88: well yeah i have no clue right now where in the alternate installer you decide the partition type. but somehow you'll have told it that it's going to be a swap partition?
[21:25] <pangolin> spotterdox: you mean irssi?
[21:25] <meetri> check1310: i like the direction it's going, i guess it's still a bit too buggy for everyday use.
[21:25] <pragmaticenigma> !offtopic |chuck1310, meetri
[21:25] <boba88> LjL: there is mount point, mount options, label, reserved blocks, typical usage, bootable flag
[21:25] <spotterdox> pangolin: yes
[21:25] <boba88> LjL: these are the options
[21:25] <pangolin> spotterdox: what do you need help with exactly?
[21:25] <rmc3> !offtopic |pragmaticenigma
[21:25] <spotterdox> pangolin: kinda new to linux
[21:26] <pangolin> spotterdox: that is fine, we all start at the beginning :)
[21:26] <LjL> boba88: but that's after creating the partition, no? you should probably decide the type right when creating it.
[21:26] <spotterdox> pangolin: :)
[21:26] <LjL> rmc3: ?
[21:26] <pangolin> spotterdox: so what problem you having?
[21:26] <boba88> LjL: there was only option for logical and primary
[21:26] <spotterdox> pangolin: idk which file i need to download http://www.irssi.org/download
[21:26] <boba88> LjL: and i choose logical
[21:26] <kremlon> i know.
[21:27] <pangolin> spotterdox: none. open a terminal and type sudo apt-get install irssi
[21:27] <LjL> boba88: that's fine, but somewhere there must also be the (filesystem) type. if i knew where it is exactly i'd tell you, but i don't
[21:27] <ikonia> LjL: it's set when you create the partitions, you set the type when you set the file system to "swap"
[21:27] <pangolin> spotterdox: or you can alternatively use the Software Centre to install it using the GUI
[21:28] <LjL> ikonia: yeah that's what i said, but he said he only had "logical" and "primary" as options. i'm not familiar enough with the alternate installer to guide him exactly.
[21:28] <spotterdox> pangolin: i tried to do the terminal thing but it says "E: Unable to locate package irssi "
[21:28] <boba88> LjL: found it
[21:28] <boba88> :)
[21:28] <boba88> LjL: and the bootable flag is off?
[21:28] <pangolin> spotterdox: what version of Ubuntu are you running?
[21:28] <LjL> boba88: yes
[21:28] <spotterdox> pangolin: 11.10
[21:29] <pangolin> spotterdox: sudo apt-get update ; sudo apt-get upgrade
[21:29] <spotterdox> pangolin: and its Lubuntu not ubuntu
[21:29] <pangolin> spotterdox: also if you could pastebin your /etc/apt/sources.list
[21:29] <pangolin> spotterdox: right, that shouldn't make a difference, the underlying system is the same.
[21:30] <Guest18268> Hi all. Got a question not directly related to Ubuntu. Maybe somebody has a quick answer. What's the advantage of booting a tiny Linux into your RAM like Puppy, Tiny Core etc. do?
[21:30] <theadmin> Guest18268: Booting into RAM over running from livecd? Well... you don't have to keep the CD inside, so you can use the CD drive for something else
[21:30] <cfhowlett> !linux>guest18268
[21:30] <spotterdox> pangolin: http://paste.ubuntu.com/839684/
[21:31] <pangolin> Guest18268: ask a puppy channel, not really on topic for this channel
[21:31] <DrCode> hi all
[21:31] <DrCode> how can I use ntp or other software with http proxy?
[21:31] <ikonia> cfhowlett: can you please stop with the random factoids, they are pointless to the questions people are asking
[21:31] <ikonia> DrCode: not all software is proxy compatible
[21:31] <pangolin> spotterdox: lsb_release -a , what does that return?
[21:31] <DrCode> can I open ntpd on windows 7 and sync ntp clients in ubuntu?
[21:31] <ikonia> DrCode: soe will require environment variables, such as http_proxy setting or proxy setting
[21:32] <theadmin> DrCode: If you find an NTP daemon for Windows, sure.
[21:32] <ikonia> DrCode: you can make windows into a time server to sync clients, sure
[21:32] <spotterdox> pangolin: http://paste.ubuntu.com/839688/
[21:33] <pangolin> spotterdox: don't forget the / at the start of the path
[21:34] <spotterdox> pangolin: my bad, http://paste.ubuntu.com/839693/
[21:35] <pangolin> spotterdox: your sources.list looks fine. I am not sure why it says irssi is not available
[21:36] <spotterdox> pangolin: hmmm
[21:36] <pangolin> spotterdox: try #lubuntu and ask them
[21:37] <spotterdox> pangolin: its kinda "dead" channel
[21:37] <Zau> Hello, how can I upgrade Wubi to latest release, please (I mean, to releases following 11.10)...
[21:37] <DrCode> ok
[21:37] <DrCode> found it
[21:37] <DrCode> thanx
[21:38] <theadmin> Zau: Precise is not released yet. 11.10 is the latest.
[21:38] <cfhowlett> Zau: next release will be 12.04 in April.
[21:38] <Andrew131> Im still having trouble with my external drive.  I get a message in the logs saying that the high speed usb device is reset then any process that interacts with the drive (reading writing file) freezes
[21:39] <boba88> ikonia: what should i enter for the proxy information, in case i want to access the outside world as suggested by the installer... i guess i need this?
[21:39] <Andrew131> The best I can tell it happens when writing a large file to the drive
[21:39] <ikonia> boba88: depends on your network,
[21:39] <boba88> ikonia: what do you mean it depends, lan wlan or something else
[21:40] <ikonia> boba88: depends on how your network is set up
[21:40] <Zau> Thanks guys, the reason I wish to get latest release of Wubi is for installing the newest Ubuntu Business Desktop Remix: Wubi 11.10 cannot handle it. Any suggestions?
[21:40] <mvrick95> looking forward to ubuntu 12.04 Precise Pangolin!
[21:40] <cfhowlett> Zau: dual boot?
[21:41] <cfhowlett> Zau: wubit is not the best option for long-term use says the developer
[21:41] <Somelauw> OMG, I installed eclipse manually and everyhting is broken.
[21:41] <boba88> ikonia: i never needed to know this information with the other installer for ubuntu (not the alternate one...) and thats why i am confused now if i actually need this
[21:42] <cfhowlett> Zau: also, virtualizatoin e.g. virtualbox, vmware...
 you're right: it's not for me. it's for newbies...
[21:42] <ikonia> boba88: then don't put it in
[21:42] <auronandace> Somelauw: you were warned
[21:42] <Andrew131> Any ideas?
[21:42] <cfhowlett> Zau: ah.  fwiw: I run 10.04 but business spin 11.10 installed flawlessly in my virtualbox
[21:43] <Andrew131> Im seriously considering going out and buying a pci express usb 3.0 card just to keep ruling things out
[21:43] <boba88> ikonia: thanks
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[21:43] <ray_> anyone seen linux have an issue with all capital leter files when listing images in ebay over firefox browser?
[21:44] <ikonia> ray_: that's not an "issue"
[21:44] <Oer> Zau, Canonical supports newest Ubuntu Business Desktop Remix á $105 /desktop. http://www.ubuntu.com/business/desktop
[21:44] <ray_> changing the extention to lower case and they apear. quite agravating. anyone know a quick solution to this
[21:45]  * Oer thinks this community has no obligation to commercial desktops
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[21:45] <ikonia> ray_: sed
[21:45] <ray_> ikonia, your useless
[21:45] <ikonia> ray_: sorry, I'm giving you perfectly acceptable solutions,
[21:46] <ray_> ikonia, no your giving solution thats usefull to programmers.
[21:46] <Zau> Zau test
[21:46] <guntbert> Zau: use #test for testing please
[21:47] <Zau> guntbert, apologies
[21:47] <Zau> thanks guys. have a nice time :)
[21:47] <cfhowlett> Zau: should have mentioned, virtualbox also installed ubuntustudio 12.04 Alpha no problems...
[21:47] <jrib> ray_: not really sure what your issue is but consider the possibility it is server-side
[21:48] <Zau> cfhowlett, ok, thanks
[21:48] <ray_> jrib. possibly. but this is hard to tell
[21:48] <pragmaticenigma> ray_: I would first try disabling any extension you have installed on Firefox
[21:49] <Andrew131> Has anyone else had this weird behavior with usb external drive?  It gets "reset" then all the processes using it are blocked?
[21:49] <pragmaticenigma> ray_: Add ons rather (sorry thinking chrome)...
[21:49] <pragmaticenigma> Andrew131: What type of drive is it?
[21:49] <Andrew131> Western Digital Essential 2TB drive
[21:50] <pragmaticenigma> Andrew131: Do you notice the drive spinning up and down when you try to access the drive with that program?
[21:50] <Andrew131> The best I can tell it happens when a large file is written to it
[21:50] <Zillow> question: how can I pipe the output of find into nano? example of what I think might work but does not "find -name cupsd.conf | nano"
[21:51] <pragmaticenigma> Andrew131: I was thinking it could be something with poor power management which is causing Ubuntu to unmount the drive which would cause the program lock issue
[21:51] <theadmin> Zillow: Not really possible. This will work: find -name cupsd.conf > file.out && nano file.out
[21:52] <pragmaticenigma> Zillow: there isn't an easy way to do that... it's best to cut and paste the directory from your result to your command to start nano
[21:52] <pragmaticenigma> Zillow: If your in command line only mode... you might need something like xargs to pass the result from find to nano
[21:52] <Andrew131> Well the drive doesn't get unmounted
[21:52] <Andrew131> Its gets reset
[21:52] <Andrew131> One sec Ill grab the notice
[21:53] <Zillow> using xargs could do it possibly?
[21:53] <Andrew131> reset high speed USB device using ehci_hcd
[21:53] <Somelauw> Okay, just kidding. It is not really broken. It is just that I didn't uninstall the old version properly.
[21:53] <pragmaticenigma> Andrew131: It might not be the drive, but the USB controller...
[21:53] <Kamiccolo> uPnP V.S. manual port mapping. Logically uPnP should be slower. Is that true?
[21:53] <Andrew131> once that notice hits any process interacting with the drive (issuing ls, reading file, running fdisk, etc…) gets blocked
[21:54] <Andrew131> pragmaticenigma: I was thinking the same thing
[21:54] <Somelauw> The new version works. I recommend upgrading as well.
[21:54] <livia84> ciao a tutti
[21:54] <Andrew131> Im thinking of getting a PCI Express controller to rule that out
[21:55] <pragmaticenigma> Andrew131: Are you using any USB hubs to connect the drives? Otherwise I would think you might want to get the extra controller
[21:55] <Somelauw> The only disadvantage is that the new version is slightly more manual work.
[21:55] <livia84> c'è un italiano?
[21:55] <ildemone> io
[21:55] <pragmaticenigma> !italian
[21:55] <livia84> grazie
[21:55] <Somelauw> ubottu: what language do you speak?
[21:57] <Somelauw> !1337
[21:57] <cfhowlett> ? ! LOL
[21:57] <fruitbag> Hey all.
[21:58] <pragmaticenigma> Somelauw: You can PM ubottu to try the different commands
[21:58] <cfhowlett> fruitbag: greetings.  state the problem, plz
[21:58] <fruitbag> I've installed Quake 2, but even though the executable is located at /usr/local/games/quake2, I am prompted that such a file does not exist.
[21:58] <ikonia> fruitbag: how are you running it ?
[21:58] <fruitbag> Even double-clicking the executable gives the same message.
[21:58] <Zillow> okay I figured it out I had it backwards, should actually be "nano `find / -iname httpd.conf`"
[21:59] <fruitbag> ikonia, I've tried running both from the terminal and clicking it.
[21:59] <Zillow> or in my case nano `find / -iname cupsd.conf`
[21:59] <pragmaticenigma> Andrew131: Something that occured to me.. I know that my USB controller has issues with large drives attached for booting and sometimes after the computer is running... It would be a very good idea to try a seperate controller card
[22:00] <Zillow> I am going to use that string variation till death!
[22:02] <Loshki> Zillow: find has to search the whole filesystem each time you run it. Much more efficient to know where your files are and edit them directly e.g. nano /etc/cupsd.conf
[22:02] <fruitbag> Any thoughts, guys?
[22:03] <fruitbag> How is it that I am told the executable does not exist when it clearly does.
[22:03] <fruitbag> ?
[22:03] <Sedated> or just `locate cupsd.conf`
[22:03] <capcook> fruitbag: give us the command you use from terminal
[22:03] <Sherlock_> anyone use a command line twitter client other than Twidge?
[22:03] <fruitbag> capcook, ./quake2
[22:03] <Oer> fruitbag, i think Quake needs wine
[22:03] <Oer> !wine
[22:03] <capcook> that's it
[22:03] <fruitbag> Oer, it's not a Windows executable.
[22:03] <capcook> its wrong
[22:03] <Viman> maybe it's not executable?
[22:03] <Viman> you need to make it so
[22:04] <zykotick9> fruitbag: i bet your on amd64 right?
[22:04] <Viman> chmod +x quake2
[22:04] <fruitbag> I'll try that, Viman.
[22:04] <ltslover> fruitbag what gives which quake2 ?
[22:04] <capcook> try ./usr/.....executable name
[22:04] <ltslover> "which quake2"
[22:04] <DeviceZer0> when I fullscreen vlc the video becomes black or the last frame displayed gets stuck. any ideas?
[22:04] <fruitbag> 'bash: ./quake2: No such file or directory.'
[22:04] <Viman> oh yeah, cd into the directory in which quake2 is located
[22:05] <Viman> then enter chmod
[22:05] <fruitbag> I already have, Viman.
[22:05] <Viman> uhh..
[22:05] <capcook> thats because quake2 os not in your path
[22:05] <mocommon> did I break this?
[22:05] <fruitbag> 'root@xxx:/usr/local/games/quake2#;
[22:05] <fruitbag> chmod worked
[22:05] <Viman> ls -A
[22:05] <auronandace> fruitbag: why are you trying to run as root?
[22:05] <ltslover> fruit youre running quake 2 as root?
[22:05] <Sherlock_> anyone use a command line twitter client other than Twidge? ...
[22:06] <Viman> bad idea to make it executable as root.
[22:06] <fruitbag> How do I get out of root?
[22:06] <Viman> Ctrl+D
[22:06] <cfhowlett> Sherlock_: gwibber...
[22:06] <bastidrazor> fruitbag: how did you get in to root?
[22:06] <cfhowlett> Sherlock_: nevermind - not command line is it.
[22:06] <zykotick9> cfhowlett: gwibber is hardly command line
[22:06] <Zillow> Loshki: you are right, it's just nice to have when I don't know where things are
[22:06] <Sherlock_> no thanks
[22:07] <fruitbag> 'xxx@xxx:/usr/local/games/quake2$ ./quake2'
[22:07] <Zillow> Loshki, for instance where cupsd was located, which now that I saw it, I won't ever have to touch it again
[22:07] <fruitbag> 'bash: ./quake2: No such file or directory'
[22:07] <capcook> i think that's just because fruitbag doesnt have the path to quake 2 executable in his path variable
[22:07] <Zillow> was thinking is was open to the world
[22:07] <Viman> fruitbag: try ls -A
[22:08] <Sherlock_> dw i guess there isn't anything else out there
[22:08] <Zillow> this I guess would ahve sped it up quite a lot maybe `find /usr -iname cupsd.conf`
[22:09] <Zillow> argh~! I meant nano `find /usr -iname cupsd.conf`
[22:09] <Andrew131> pragmaticenigma: no I don't use a hub direct connection.  Also not using it for booting I think I am going to try a pci usb controller just to rule to it out.  I've already done bios, kernel, all usb slots and tried drive in another ubuntu machine
[22:09] <Andrew131> So I guess Im just trying to ignore the inevitable
[22:09] <prax> ?
[22:10] <fruitbag> How can quake2 not exist when it clearly does?
[22:10] <Loshki> Zillow: I thought cupds.conf (like most config files) was under /etc, not /usr ?
[22:10]  * fruitbag is confused
[22:10] <zykotick9> fruitbag: are you using amd64 right?
[22:10] <fruitbag> No, zykotick9.
[22:10] <Viman> Hello, does anybody know how to create a .deb file from source. including the dependencies?
[22:10] <zykotick9> fruitbag: ok.
[22:11] <zykotick9> !checkinstall | Viman
[22:11] <jrib> !packaging | Viman
[22:11] <zykotick9> Viman: dependencies NOT included
[22:11] <Viman> I know
[22:11] <Viman> so how do I include them
[22:11] <Viman> like in a general deb file?
[22:12] <capcook> cd into quake2 directory and then type ls -a. then let us see the result
[22:12] <Viman> because I know checkinstall doesn't do that, but you can change what else it includes as you're making the deb file
[22:12] <fruitbag> .                 lib3dfxgl.so    libMesaGL.so.2.6  ref_gl.so     rogue
[22:12] <fruitbag> ..                libGL.so        quake2            ref_glx.so    xatrix
[22:12] <fruitbag> 3.20_Changes.txt  libMesaGL.so    README            ref_soft.so
[22:12] <fruitbag> baseq2            libMesaGL.so.2  readme.txt        ref_softx.so
[22:12] <FloodBot1> fruitbag: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[22:12] <metsys23> hi there! i am an ubuntu user and i want to change to an faster distro, and read that xubuntu or lubunt are faster than ubuntu. what you advise me? (please dont advise me linux mint, i have tried it and is to heavy)
[22:13] <Zillow> Loshki, I just figured that out, it didn't actually work the way I wrote it. still trying to figure it out more like <cat `find / -iname httpd.conf'>  <-- that for instance does work but say <cat `find /etc -iname httpd.conf'> does not.
[22:13] <Oer> readme.txt are awesome
[22:14] <Viman> metsys: Lubuntu is the fastest of them all.
[22:14] <DeviceZer0> I cannot get fullscreen video to play using vlc or totem. Video works fine when not fullscreen...i have both audio and video..but then I goto fullscreen all I get is either a blackscreen and audio or the last displayed frame and audio
[22:14] <Oer> metsys23, if you have 512 mb +, i would advise Xubuntu.
[22:14] <metsys23> i have 4gb ram
[22:15] <metsys23> 32bits can recognize 3gb so i have 3gb
[22:15] <Oer> metsys23, if your CPU can handle 64 bit, you would have all memory available
[22:15] <mavrick95> how do i format my hd while in ubuntu? i want to format the hd before installing the ubuntu again, and then load the DejaDup app to restore to my previous backup, is that right? is there a "smarter" way?
[22:15] <metsys23> i need a distro to use all day, with eclipse, games, office and other stufs
[22:15] <Viman> I think there's 64bit versions for xubuntu/lubuntu, no?
[22:16] <metsys23> yup, but that is not a problem, i think
[22:16] <metsys23> 1gb ram is not a big deal right?
[22:16] <Viman> well, if you're never past 2GB it won't
[22:17] <metsys23> there is a big diference in performance between ubuntu and xubuntu and lubuntu?
[22:17] <Loshki> Zillow: what happens when you run the non-working case -- "find / -iname httpd.conf" from a terminal?
[22:17] <metsys23> and what about drivers, ubuntu deal nice with my mobile boardcas internet, wifi, graphic and stuff
[22:17] <Viman> Xubuntu/Lubuntu are pretty similar in consumption, Lubuntu being slightly lower
[22:18] <Zillow> Loshki, thanks for telling me about all conf being in etc
[22:18] <Viman> they all have the Ubuntu Base, so if it works in Ubuntu, it works on them
[22:18] <zykotick9> Viman: XFCE is much heavier then LXDE actually, XFCE is similar to gnome2 in resource usage
[22:18] <metsys23> Viman: huumm, now i am motivated to install xubuntu or lubuntu...
[22:18] <pnorman> argh. wish I could at least get some idea of why my ubuntu box is hanging
[22:19] <Zillow> Loshki, I don't understand non-working case
[22:19] <Viman> metsys: do it
[22:19] <Viman> as pointed by zykotic, Lubuntu is lighter
[22:19] <cipher__> How can i manually turn my fan on?
[22:19] <cipher__> pwmconfig can't find any sensors
[22:20] <Loshki> Zillow: run the non-working case -- "find / -iname httpd.conf" from a terminal. What does the output look like (you can use http://paste.ubuntu.com/ for the output)
[22:20] <Zillow> Loshki: it does this <cat: find / -iname httpd.conf: No such file or directory>
[22:20] <cfhowlett> metsys23: try them out via virtual box...
[22:20] <metsys23> Viman: i am triyng to decide what to use... i have a standard pc, compaq cq60, 4gb, 2,16gh... what should be my choise? lubuntu and xubuntu
[22:20] <cipher__> "/usr/sbin/pwmconfig: There are no pwm-capable sensor modules installed"
[22:21] <rooter__> Does anyone know how to configurate the robot ASURO in minicom ?
[22:21] <cfhowlett> metsys23: "standard" pc?  no idea what that means...but for the specs you cited, x/l ubuntu for sure
[22:21] <pnorman> cipher__: did you run sensors-detect?
[22:22] <cfhowlett> metsys23: my understanding is that xfce is the more mature and developed DE, so I'd suggest xubuntu.
[22:22] <cipher__> pnorman, I did, and it isn't installed. So i assumed ubuntu had its own way :/
[22:22] <cipher__> any idea what package it is under?
[22:23] <rooter__> how i can the databits in minicom?
[22:23] <pnorman> cipher__: lm-sensors
[22:23] <cipher__> thanks
[22:24] <Oer> cipher__, what is you chipset ?
[22:24] <cipher__> 0er, I am not sure. It's a xps15z, will aspci shed any light?
[22:24] <cipher__> err
[22:25] <pnorman> sensors-detect should tell you what your PWM chips are, if it finds them
[22:25] <Oer> macbook ?
[22:25] <metsys23> cfhowlett: ok, i probably will try xubuntu! is faster than ubuntu rigth?
[22:25] <mavrick95> how do i format my hd while in ubuntu? i want to format the hd before installing the ubuntu again, and then load the DejaDup app to restore to my previous backup, is that right? is there a "smarter" way?
[22:25] <mkultra_> good morning
[22:25] <BlouBlou> mavrick95: you can just format hd if unmounted. If you have it on a different hd, try gparted
[22:25] <cfhowlett> metsys23: it's LIGHTER than ubuntu due to the Desktop Environment and the default packages are not the same.
[22:26] <BlouBlou> !gparted | mavrick95
[22:26] <mkultra_> testing out new cooling system
[22:26] <Loshki> Zillow: run the find on its own without the "cat"...
[22:26] <mkultra_> small fan blowing under laptop air flow routed through a news paper
[22:26] <mkultra_> propped up on 4x4 pens
[22:27] <mkultra_> 87 degrees so far
[22:27] <mkultra_> time to make the computer freak out
[22:27] <dlentz> that's ghetto (congrats?)
[22:27] <kaiowas> If i want to partition my harddrive so i have two operating systems on it... How much should i give to Ubuntu? I want to learn the operating system and play around with it, media/networking and things like that. 50GB should be enough right?
[22:27] <cipher__> http://codepad.org/PDWAN6Ai
[22:27] <cipher__> 0er: http://codepad.org/PDWAN6Ai
[22:27] <Zillow> Loshki: it gives me permission denied
[22:27] <kremlon> i have an idea whats going on but i wont remember it in the morning.
[22:27] <mavrick95> BlouBlou: actually, i am looking to a way to restore to my previous backup without any hassles.
[22:28] <dlentz> cipher__, laptop uses acpi to control fan
[22:28] <mkultra_> ghetto airflow works GOOD
[22:28] <mkultra_> this laptop usually runs 160 everything when under load, its up to 90 degrees like this
[22:28] <dlentz> you should market it as ghettoflow
[22:28] <mavrick95> BlouBlou: the way is to format the hd first, then install the whole ubuntu os again and then running dejadup, right?
[22:28] <mkultra_> LOL
[22:29] <poseless> hi, how i change the data bit in minicom?
[22:29] <mkultra_> a aerodynamic laptop stand would be nice
[22:29] <mkultra_> adjustable
[22:29] <dlaflamme> in the Ubuntu file explorer, under Network, I see two identically named entries for my NAS. How can I determine why there are two or what is the difference between the two?
[22:29] <mavrick95> BlouBlou: it sounds it is goinmg to take a looooong time...
[22:29] <mavrick95> lo
[22:29] <mavrick95> *lol
[22:29] <mneptok> kaiowas: 20GB is more than enough if you're not storing much
[22:29] <BlouBlou> mavrick95: installing "the whole ubuntu" will automatically format your hd (or your partition) using ext4
[22:30] <kaiowas> mneptok: perfect, thank you.
[22:30] <mneptok> kaiowas: which 2 OSes?
[22:30] <mavrick95> BlouBlou: after that i run dejadup and restore to my previous backup, right?
[22:30] <Zillow> Loshki: I'm not sure why I would want to do that though as it should essentially not do anything. if I understand it correctly, the purpose for doing it is to open the found file inside something, unless we are trying to create a loop. XD
[22:30] <cfhowlett> kaiowas: my full install of Ubuntu studio is less than 10 G.  My /home and data are far more than than.
[22:30] <BlouBlou> mavrick95: Right.
[22:31] <Oer> cipher__, odd, the ubuntu page shows no problems https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupport/Machines/Laptops/Dell/XPS/15z
[22:31] <pnorman_> cipher__: did sensors-detect find everything?
[22:31] <kaiowas> Running it in Parallels now, thought id give it a go as a "real" operating system.
[22:31] <cipher__> dlentz, I am not incredibly knowledgeable about linux, how does this allow me to change it?
[22:32] <cipher__> dlentz, I know it's for power man. but I don't know how to change it?
[22:32] <mneptok> kaiowas: installed with what other OS? on how big a disk?
[22:32] <kaiowas> mneptok: sorry it got laggy, i run OSX on 320gb harddrive.
[22:33] <poseless> how can i change the data bits in minicom?
[22:33] <mavrick95> BlouBlou: thank you very much!
[22:33] <cipher__> 0er, yes i am booting with those flags; so i am not even running acpi?
[22:34] <kaiowas> mneptok: but my harddrive is very full :P.
[22:34] <BlouBlou> mavrick95: You're welcome :)
[22:34] <mneptok> kaiowas: both Ubuntu (or any Linux) and OSX will easily use a FAT32 partition. so, minimal OSX and Linux partitions, and a large FAT32 (maybe TrueCrypted) for all your media and such. stuff that can live outside /home or /Uers
[22:34] <mneptok> */Users
[22:34] <spotteddox2> d
[22:34] <sp4z> Hi there how do i modify services that autostart using init.d?
[22:35] <kaiowas> mneptok: true, it could work. But some files i store are larger then FAT32 allow.  But.. maybe 4 partitions? 1. OSX 2. Ubuntu 3. HFS for large files 4. FAT32
[22:35] <spotteddox2> hmm
[22:35] <spotteddox2> does anyone use irssi
[22:35] <takkun> me
[22:36] <zacarias_> I can't delete items in a memory card. It's unlocked, but I keep having permissions issues. Any help?
[22:36] <poseless> Wie kann man in minicom 2.5 die Datenbits einer seriellen Schnittstelle konfigurieren?
[22:36] <aeon-ltd> spotteddox2: okkk now the real question?
[22:36] <aeon-ltd> !de | poseless
[22:36] <Viman> zacarias: are you doing it graphically?
[22:36] <Viman> through nautilus?
[22:36] <Oer> cipher__, the comment "acpi-off is bad" is true, besides that, acpi should handle the fancontrol, it will set to max if no acpi tool is found in LM sensors.. wich is your case, AFAIK
[22:36] <metsys23> hum i just spot a problem before install xubuntu
[22:36] <zacarias_> Viman: through Nautilus and through the terminal. I tried rm -rf
[22:37] <spotteddox2> !il
[22:37] <Viman> really? the filesystem may be read-only
[22:37] <kremlon> \0/
[22:37] <spotteddox2> היי מה קורה
[22:37] <metsys23> i just install windows in another partition and it destroi the grob so i can't acess my linux distro to backup my files...
[22:37] <kremlon> \0/
[22:37] <Oer> cipher__, awesome laptop btw
[22:37] <kremlon> ^
[22:37] <Viman> in which case, if you're going to delete EVERYTHING, you can just format it through GParted
[22:37] <metsys23> how can i fix it on windows, befor instal xubuntu?
[22:37] <Loshki> Zillow: the find command has to return at least one valid filename for "cat" to work. If find fails (as it does here, because you don't have permission to search "/") then cat will fail, and so the whole command fails...
[22:37] <cipher__> 0er, thanks.
[22:37] <zacarias_> Viman: maybe, it's a mobile phone sd card
[22:38] <takkun> my system hangs at the splash screen when I tried to boot after upgrading. I can see all the directories when launch rescue mode, but I can't get the system to boot the the desktop. Could anyone help me?
[22:38] <Viman> zacarias: you can unmount the card and remount it as writable through : sudo mount -o remount rw '/media/yourusbdrive'
[22:39] <Zillow> Loshki: I'm Root, but I would assume it could? work in su?
[22:39] <kaiowas> Wich irc program does people use under Linux? I use Xchat, anything else people recommend?
[22:39] <poseless> what are 'Flood Bot1-3' ?
[22:40] <aeon-ltd> poseless: prevent floods i.e spam
[22:40] <Loshki> Zillow: if you're root, it should work. Not sure why find fails with "/" but works with "/etc"...
[22:40] <aeon-ltd> poseless: or excessive posting
[22:40] <Zillow> Loshki: other way around, doesn't work with /etc
[22:40] <oPhelias_> @kaiowas, I use Empathy
[22:40] <aeon-ltd> kaiowas: irssi if you like cli, but really you could google this; most people don't like it when people run polls on irc
[22:40] <Viman> kaiowas: even firefox works through chatzilla
[22:41] <cfhowlett> kaiowas: chatzilla addon to ffox
[22:41] <Somelauw> Hi, opening files on an usb device(ntfs) works fine under windows 7 but when opening it using nautilus, it only shows only 1 file. What could be the cause?
[22:41] <cfhowlett> metsys23: restate your question plz
[22:41] <Loshki> Zillow: I still can't explain it. Maybe I should just shut-up now...
[22:41] <kaiowas> Thank you guys, I will check them out.
[22:41] <Viman> zacarias: did it work?
[22:42] <metsys23> cfhowlett: i have a linux partition working fine
[22:42] <cfhowlett> metsys23: OK and ...
[22:42] <the_eye_> I need a dmesg of someone running wubi. Could you post to me at pastebin.com ?
[22:42] <jen_> can someone help me with my virtualbox...
[22:42] <metsys23> cfhowlett: and install windows 7 in another partition... just before i reboot it, there is no more the boot option to choose linux or windows, just start in windows, and i have some files in linux partitions that i what to backup
[22:42] <Bsims> how do I change font size in empathy?
[22:43] <Zillow> Loshki: I think understand what you were saying, it's slow. but, it does serve my purposes.
[22:43] <cipher__> 0er, when you're back... Do you think I can just a heatgun to get the old fans spinning?
[22:43] <Bsims> cipher__: got a dead fan?
[22:43] <cipher__> Bsims, actually it works fine. But I am trying to turn it on by my own accord.
[22:43] <boba88> ikonia: does it mean if i managed to install a 64 bit OS on my computer that my computer is capable to run 64 bit apps... I also checked with cat proc/cpuinfo and found a flag lm
[22:43] <Bsims> cipher__: what do you mean... is it temp controled or something?
[22:44] <metsys23> cfhowlett: now, i need to fix it in windows and have no idea ho to do it :(
[22:44] <cipher__> Bsims: sensors-detect: http://codepad.org/PDWAN6Ai ... and booting with acpi=noirq i915.semaphores=1
[22:44] <poseless> aeon-ltd: thank you, and how i have to image this? Is thier someone sitting with a shield? :D
[22:45] <boba88> does it mean if i managed to install a 64 bit OS on my computer that my computer is capable to run 64 bit apps... I also checked with cat proc/cpuinfo and found a flag lm
[22:45] <jen_> my virtualbox will nto work for some odd reason :(
[22:45] <cfhowlett> metsys23: so you installed linux then windows?
[22:45] <Bsims> cipher__: so what does the sensor read for temp then?
[22:45] <metsys23> jen_: yup
[22:46] <takkun> after I installed updates. My system hangs at the splash screen.
[22:46] <cipher__> Bsims: I assume so?
[22:46] <cipher__> I don't know*
[22:46] <cfhowlett> metsys23: so you installed linux then windows?
[22:46] <cipher__> Bsims: It will turn on what it gets hot.
[22:46] <cfhowlett> metsys23> so you installed linux then windows?
[22:46] <cipher__> So I am assuming so.
[22:46] <Bsims> cipher__: run sensors
[22:46] <cipher__> Bsims: Actually whenever I start the nvidia gpu it spins.
[22:46] <metsys23> cfhowlett: yes, i have a linux instalation and after install windows, in diferent partitions
[22:47] <cfhowlett> metsys23: you need to reinstall grub.
[22:47] <boba88> does it mean if i managed to install a 64 bit OS on my computer that my computer is capable to run 64 bit apps... I also checked with cat proc/cpuinfo and found a flag lm
[22:47] <cfhowlett> !grub|metsys23
[22:47] <jen_> Metsy23 umm well my vritualbox will not work annnd Im not sure why, I think it has to do with primary and secondary thingies
[22:47] <r0dy4>  /leave
[22:47] <boba88> metsys23: an easier way is to use boot repair
[22:47] <Viman> metsys: try rescatux
[22:47] <boba88> metsys23: you just need to use this application within the live cd
[22:48] <cfhowlett> jen_: virtualbox "will not work" = ???what
[22:48] <metsys23> ok, i will try rescatux, thanks!
[22:48] <Bsims> how do I change font size in empathy?
[22:48] <jen_> cfhowlett, i dont know DX hold on lemme play with it
[22:48] <Tomtiger11> How much is some ddr2 300 ram 1gb x2?
[22:48] <boba88> metsys23: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Boot-Repair
[22:48] <boba88> does it mean if i managed to install a 64 bit OS on my computer that my computer is capable to run 64 bit apps... I also checked with cat proc/cpuinfo and found a flag lm
[22:49] <jen_> yeah idk
[22:49] <bastidrazor> boba88: what do you think?
[22:49] <Nach0z> short answer is yes...
[22:49] <boba88> bastidrazor: i think yes but a little bit sceptic
[22:49] <Bsims> Tomtiger11: check newegg or tigerdirect
[22:50] <Tomtiger11> Bsims: K
[22:50] <boba88> bastidrazor: are there other requirements on whether you should use 64 bit or 32 bit
[22:50] <boba88> bastidrazor: like ram, cpu power etc.
[22:50] <Viman> boba: CPU architecture and BIOS
[22:51] <boba88> Viman: from the lm flag the cpu is fine? and what about bios?
[22:51] <Viman> if the CPU can't use 64-bit instructions, 64-bit OSs can't be used
[22:51] <spotteddox2> sss
[22:51] <Viman> sorry didn't mean to say BIOS
[22:51] <Viman> CPU arch is all
[22:51] <metsys23> thanks!!!
[22:51] <boba88> Viman: meaning since i already installed it everything is proven to be possible :)
[22:51] <jen_> could someone do teamviewer with me to figure it out? about my virtualbox?
[22:52] <bastidrazor> boba88: 64bit OS is the only requirement
[22:52] <Detergentizer> hi lo
[22:52] <Viman> metsys: GRUB
[22:52] <Bsims> how do I change font size in empathy?
[22:52] <Viman> is fixed?
[22:52] <Detergentizer> on firefox I hae an extension that is disabled ... how the fuck to delete
[22:52] <Detergentizer> '
[22:52] <boba88> bastidrazor: my question was if running a 64 bit os proves that my cpu is fully capable of 64 bit
[22:53] <_cb> How do you get banshee to play all the music files in a folder?
[22:53] <boba88> bastidrazor: together with the lm flag from proc/cpuinfo
[22:53] <Bsims> boba88: do a uname -a for me would ya
[22:53] <bastidrazor> boba88: oh, i did not get that from what you said. if your OS is 64 bit then yes your computer is fully capable of running 64 bit
[22:53] <dbugger> Hey guys. when trying to download the guestadditions for VirtualBox in Oneiric, I get an error, of server not responding. Ive checked the server and the folder they try to access doesnt exist. What should I do?
[22:53] <cyberboss> guys
[22:54] <dlaflamme> in the Ubuntu file explorer, under Network, I see two identically named entries for my NAS. How can I determine why there are two or what is the difference between the two?
[22:54] <boba88> Bsims: currently on a different computer with 32 bit os on it
[22:54] <boba88> Bsims: but on the one i am talking about it has 64 bit os
[22:55] <boba88> bastidrazor: thanks man
[22:55] <Bsims> boba88: than it will run 64bit apps
[22:55] <boba88> thanks guys, good night to all..., i am leaving now...
[22:56] <nicehs> hi,im new to linux. got a ubuntu server ive only been contacting using Putty,now gonna install VNC but I think I need a GUI of some kind first. can anyone tell me what I should "apt-get install .." to get that?  gnome,kde.. something like that?
[22:57] <Ben64> nicehs: why would you need vnc?
[22:57] <mongy> nicehs: if you do need a gui then as light as possible.  lubuntu/xubuntu
[22:58] <nicehs> uh not important just wanna try,would be nice with a desktop thats constantly on too instead of just commandline,looks nice
[22:58] <Ben64> installing lubuntu or xubuntu installs a ton of packages : /
[22:58] <Bsims> nicehs: I prefer kde, but thats just me
[22:58] <Dgameman1> HEY GUYS
[22:58] <Ben64> everything can be done on command line faster
[22:58] <Dgameman1> Is anyone here?
[22:58] <nicehs> hm..so any idea what i should "apt-get install " to get the best kinda gui thatll work with vnc?
[22:59] <Viman> nicehs: vinagre?
[22:59] <Dgameman1> I just installed ubuntu and I've been trying to get my wireless usb to work for the best 4 hours. Can someone please guide me?
[22:59] <Ben64> nicehs: if you install vncserver it should give you the requirements
[22:59] <cipher__> nicehs, fluxbox would probably be responsive.
[22:59] <nicehs> thx will look em up^^
[22:59] <Viman> vinagre is a vnc viewer, though I never used it.
[22:59] <Bsims> Oh wow... to change font size in empathy you have to manually edit the theme config file
[22:59] <Bsims> Why in the name of all that is holy just and pure is that the case?
[23:00] <Viman> badly coded?
[23:00] <Bsims> Viman: yet default on Ubuntu
[23:00] <Viman> Pidgin FTW
[23:00] <Viman> I can't complain, though. In openbox everything is done thtough config files
[23:00] <Bsims> Viman: yeah but for some reason pidgin isn't showing in taskbar on kde I mean its running, just no actual icon for it
[23:01] <Dgameman1> Can anyone help me with ubuntu?
[23:01] <Bsims> er in system tray
[23:01] <Viman> Bsisms: you can check it in the options, i think
[23:01] <Viman> to integrate it in the tray.
[23:01] <Bsims> Viman: I'll look
[23:01] <rmc3> Viman: you're making me want to use openbox again...
[23:01] <rmc3> hmm
[23:01] <Viman> do it
[23:01] <rmc3> I should
[23:02] <Bsims> Anyone know why xfce doesn't autoadd itself to gdm/kdm?
[23:02] <rmc3> never tried using anything other than xfce or gnome/unity in Ubuntu though
[23:02] <neiz> Whether I install virtualbox through Synaptic or directly from the website, I can't find anyway to run it, anyone familiar?
[23:02] <rmc3> experiences, anyone, in using openbox in ubuntu?
[23:03] <Ben64> neiz: read the manual
[23:03] <syslq> neiz: define cant find a way
[23:03] <Ben64> neiz: http://www.virtualbox.org/manual/
[23:03] <Viman> rmc3: if you install LXDE or Lubuntu, Openbox is the window manager.
[23:03] <rmc3> orly
[23:03] <Dgameman1> can anyone please help me for god's sake?
[23:03] <Viman> yes, rly
[23:03] <starky> hola
[23:03] <syslq> neiz: you click on shortcut or what? Most probably kernel modules are not built and you need kernel headers for that
[23:03] <rmc3> Dgameman1: please just ask your questions
[23:03] <Dgameman1>  I just installed ubuntu and I've been trying to get my wireless usb to work for the best 4 hours. Can someone please guide me?
[23:03] <rmc3> oh, you did ask it
[23:03] <rmc3> ¯\(º_o)/¯
[23:04] <Ben64> !details | Dgameman1
[23:04] <rmc3> wireless drivers and linux, that's something I can't support :P
[23:04] <drakalen> !pl
[23:04] <h00k> !wireless | Dgameman1
[23:04] <Detergentizer> ubuntu firefox modifications is incompatible with firefox 10.0.1
[23:04] <Detergentizer> ubuntu firefox modifications 0.9rc2 (disabled) by Canonical Ltd.
[23:04] <Dgameman1> I have a problem with my belkin wireless usb card, I'm running ubuntu version 10.05, i followed the wifidocs and everything was perfect
[23:05] <Detergentizer> what the flerp that means
[23:05] <Dgameman1> up until the point of it asking me iwconfig
[23:05] <Dgameman1> and I saw nothing that said wlan0
[23:06] <Dgameman1> I'm 99% sure I followed everything correctly but then again it isn't working so I'm not sure what to do
[23:06] <Dgameman1> No ideas?
[23:07] <Ben64> Dgameman1: which belkin card, pastebin "lsusb"
[23:07] <Dgameman1> ok hold on
[23:09] <Dgameman1> Bus 004 Device 010: ID 050d:945a Belkin Components F7D1101 Basic Wireless USB Adapter v1000 [Realtek RTL8188SU]
[23:09] <RaceCondition_> why does the Ubuntu.com download page tell me that 32-bit is recommended?
[23:10] <aBound> RaceCondition_, The majority of users are still using 32-Bit.
[23:10] <Hugh> Hello?
[23:10] <h00k> RaceCondition_, aBound: I believe that may change for the next release, perhaps.
[23:10] <Canadian1296> Quick question, I want to install Ubuntu Desktop, but using the desktop install cd, I see no way to partition the disk to my liking. I want an encrypted partition with lvm and custom virtual partitions, etc. With the alternate install cd I know how (manual partitioning has way more options.) When i use the alternate cd I always use the cli mode. If i use normal will it install ubuntu desktop?
[23:11] <Bsims> Canadian1296: use the custom install
[23:11] <RaceCondition_> aBound: yeah, but why is it recommended? because more users means better community support?
[23:11] <cfhowlett> Detergentizer: I go the same error.  I had installed the transitional ubufox ubuntu/firefox branding package at some point.  Once I removed that bit, all was well.
[23:11] <aBound> h00k, It's a possibly no doubt but we can't know for sure.
[23:11] <aBound> RaceCondition_, Other countries and poor countries might not have the resources to move to 64-Bit.
[23:12] <itaylor57> RaceCondition_, it is bad wording, if your cpu is 64bit you should d/l 64
[23:12] <Dgameman1> So anybody have any idea?
[23:12] <Hugh> Newbie here:  Anyone successfully installed Minecraft on Xubuntu machine?
[23:12] <Dgameman1> Please god
[23:12] <aBound> Thus, 32-Bit is still recommended.
[23:12] <Dgameman1> I'vebeen trying to make this work for the passed 2 days
[23:12] <Dgameman1> Nobody has any idea about my Belkin carD?
[23:12] <aBound> RaceCondition_, But like h00k said they might recommend 64-Bit when the newer version arrives.
[23:12] <Dgameman1> It worked out of the box on archbang
[23:12] <Dgameman1> and on crunchbang I had to download a file
[23:12] <RaceCondition_> itaylor57: ok, that's what I wanted to know
[23:12] <Dgameman1> but on ubuntu, all hell breaks lose
[23:13] <h00k> aBound: it will be, for 12.04
[23:13] <aBound> RaceCondition_, Nothing is wrong with 64-Bit except a few minor 32-Bit apps might not work for 64-Bit.
[23:13] <Vuth> hi
[23:13] <Ben64> Dgameman1: you could get another wireless device
[23:13] <RaceCondition_> aBound: good to know;  I will download 32 bit for now for virtualisation purposes, but will go for 64 when I install it "natively"
[23:14] <Dgameman1> is that really you're suggestion?
[23:14] <Canadian1296> aBound: So the alternate cd?
[23:14] <aBound> The emulator ZSNES is not compatible with Ubuntu 64-Bit. It wasn't written for 64-Bit.
[23:14] <cfhowlett> Vuth: greetings
[23:14] <mkultra_> yeah we need games stat
[23:14] <neiz> why doesn't ubuntu create a shortcut in "Apps" or something for Virtualbox?
[23:14] <galerien> hi all, I'd like to share my connection between my Ubuntu laptop and my windows desktop (don't hit me pls ;) ), can you point me into the right direction ?
[23:15] <mkultra_> galerien, install apache
[23:15] <Dgameman1> Alright
[23:15] <Dgameman1> great
[23:15] <aBound> Canadian1296, Alternative CD for what?
[23:15] <Dgameman1> thanks guys
[23:15] <cfhowlett> neiz: Applications>System Tools>VirtualBox  but you can create a new shortcut where you want
[23:15] <sitic|afk> Dgameman1: http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=10641446&postcount=5
[23:15] <mkultra_> then sudo ln -s /share /var/www
[23:15] <Canadian1296> I asked if I can install ubuntu desktop with the alternate install cd
[23:15] <mkultra_> or something like that share as in what u want to share
[23:16] <Bsims> Canadian1296: yeah you can
[23:16] <mkultra_> then browse to it in a browser on the other machine
[23:16] <mkultra_> via ip address
[23:16] <Canadian1296> Bsims: Okay thanks :)
[23:16] <Dgameman1> Thank you!
[23:16] <Dgameman1> I don't have internet on that computer tho
[23:16] <Dgameman1> so how can I get those files and such?
[23:16] <aBound> Canadian1296, The Alternative CD is more for Advanced installations if that's what you intend to do.
[23:16] <galerien> mkultra_, that's a http server... ?
[23:16] <neiz> cfhowlett: right, thanks didnt think about gnome - couldn't find a way in unity besides running "virtualbox" to start it
[23:16] <h00k> calcmandan: sure you can, you can just sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop
[23:16] <mkultra_> yeah you can http your directory
[23:17] <Canadian1296> aBound: okay, yeah thats what I need then
[23:17] <aBound> Canadian1296, I gotcha. :P
[23:17] <mkultra_> it will show up as a file list
[23:17] <h00k> Canadian1296: ^ sure you can, you can just sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop
[23:17] <h00k> calcmandan: sorry, tab-fail
[23:17] <mkultra_> i should write a tutorial on that
[23:17] <Dgameman1> alrighjt
[23:17] <Dgameman1> I'm killing myself
[23:17] <Dgameman1> thanks guys
[23:18] <aBound> Don't kill yourself now. :P
[23:18] <Dgameman1> :(
[23:18] <Dgameman1> I honestly give up
[23:18] <Dgameman1> I've been trying to do this for too long now
[23:18] <Dgameman1> =/
[23:18] <FloodBot1> Dgameman1: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[23:18] <Dgameman1> and no one knows how to fix it
[23:19] <Dgameman1> I'm sorry
[23:19] <mkultra_> whats ur problem?
[23:19] <Ben64> stop using enter as punctuation, and look at the link sitic|afk gave you
[23:19] <Dgameman1> I looked at the link he gave me
[23:19] <Dgameman1> My problem is this
[23:20] <Dgameman1> I followed the wifi help docs all the way through, everything was working. no errors appeared. It's just that when I type iwconfig, nothing shows up for wlan0. it doesn't even appear
[23:20] <Detergentizer> cfhowlett:  ok, thanks
[23:20] <aBound> Dgameman1, If your card worked out of the box for some other distro. Perhaps, it uses a newer kernel with built-in support for your card.
[23:20] <Detergentizer> cfhowlett:  but it is still there
[23:20] <psichas> my virtualBox do alot of pauses then i try run virtual machine, what's wrong with it ? How to fix it?
[23:20] <Ben64> Dgameman1: seriously, there is a comma key, use it instead of enter... there are 1455 people in here. And look at the link sitic|afk gave you!
[23:20] <cfhowlett> Detergentizer: sorry then IDK.  I'm in Ubuntu Studio 10.04 and will be going to XFCE with 12.04 - my unity exposure is minimal.  Ask the channel again.
[23:21] <Dgameman1> @aBound, So is there anything I can do to fix that?
[23:21] <Detergentizer> ''k
[23:21] <aBound> Dgameman1, I'd check the kernel that whatever distro you were using and than check the current version of Ubuntu's kernel.
[23:21] <Ben64> Dgameman1: the link you were given fixes it, just follow the steps
[23:21] <Detergentizer> i gots lanaguage-pack-en-base with exclaimation marks on it inside of the pakage manager
[23:21] <aBound> Dgameman1, Some newer kernels might remove support for older hardware.
[23:22] <aBound> Drivers are usually built into the kernel.
[23:22] <aBound> Dgameman1, It's like using newer hardware on an older kernel more or less it won't be supported.
[23:23] <Vuth> hi cfhowlett
[23:23] <Vuth> do you want to chat?
[23:24] <h00k> Vuth: this is the support channel, but you can chat in #ubuntu-offtopic if you want
[23:26] <root__> yo yo yo yo
[23:26] <root__> wooooo
[23:27] <root__> :P:P:P:P
[23:27] <FloodBot1> root__: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[23:29] <Dgameman1> I did was st|ck said and it didn't work
[23:31] <aBound> Dgameman1, You can check this site to see if it's supported: http://linuxwireless.org/en/users or the channel #linux-wireless
[23:32] <shed-34046> help
[23:32] <shed-34046> how do i install the mozilla build package of firefox on ubuntu 10.10?
[23:32] <aBound> Give or take if the driver isn't built right into the kernel than you'd have to download the driver and install it.
[23:33] <aBound> shed-34046, The only way I see you getting Firefox 10 is from a PPA.
[23:33] <aBound> shed-34046, http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2011/03/firefox-4-ppa-for-ubuntu-10-04-and-10-10-users/
[23:33] <Emerald_Fianna> Hello all
[23:33] <Oer> shed-34046, why ? FF 10 is in the repository
[23:34] <Emerald_Fianna> Can anyone tell me if 2gigs of ram is enough for 11.10?
[23:34] <shed-34046> I want to install the mozilla build so i can have the firefox that auto updates.. so i don't have to use the update manager to check for updates
[23:34] <Ben64> Emerald_Fianna: yes it is
[23:34] <holstein> Emerald_Fianna: run it live and see.. should be fine depending on what you are doing.. i would probably chose the 32bit version
[23:34] <newbie-bob> I need help on mailserver. Anyone?
[23:34] <aBound> Emerald_Fianna, I have 16GB of RAM and so far only used about 1GB.
[23:34] <jstoone> Emerald_Fianna: Is is (: you can look up the system requirements at the website.
[23:35] <thelegace> hi could someone help me get my gpt/raid partition installed
[23:35] <aBound> shed-34046, As far as I know you still have to use the update manager to update Firefox.
[23:35] <mkultra_> yeah 2 gigs is enough
[23:35] <mkultra_> i run 10.10 on 2 gigs
[23:35] <jstoone> newbie-bob: Please state your current problem/situation so you can get a faster reply (:
[23:35] <thelegace> normally in fedora i can go to the /dev/mapper directory and find what i want to mount
[23:35] <thelegace> but im trying various things but this is the what i get
[23:36] <mkultra_> i run 10.10 + squid + apache + browsers
[23:36] <mkultra_> + ftp
[23:36] <Emerald_Fianna> Ben64: I managed to get my old laptop working today, it's amd dual core 1.7ghz, 2 gigs ram and 160gb hard drive, I installed 11.10 clean on it without anything else and i'm getting a boot time of about 50 seconds, is that ok?
[23:36] <Raikia> thelegace: Are you looking for something like /dev/disk/by-label/
[23:36] <Raikia> ?
[23:36] <thelegace> http://paste.ubuntu.com/839806/
[23:36] <thelegace> Raikia, i tried that as well
[23:36] <thelegace> same error
[23:36] <thelegace> also i have no by label option
[23:36] <Raikia> try by-id
[23:36] <Ben64> Emerald_Fianna: old laptops tend to have old, slow hard drives. that would make a longer boot time.
[23:36] <thelegace> only id, path and uuid
[23:36] <jstoone> Emerald_Fianna: That's fine (:
[23:37] <thelegace> Raikia, i tried all of the relevant ones
[23:37] <jstoone> Ben64: true.
[23:37] <shed-34046> wait would it hurt to put firefox folder from the file i downloaded and extracted in the etc location on the file system on my computer where all the other stuff is?
[23:37] <bobenhaus> anyone know a way to sync/show photos from picasa to the ubuntu photo viewer?
[23:37] <Emerald_Fianna> delighted so I am, before it broke it was running windows 7 like a old lame dog, this seem much better. Can anyone recommend good websites for learning about ubuntu?
[23:37] <thelegace> Raikia, this is what i have to work with
[23:37] <thelegace> http://paste.ubuntu.com/839809/
[23:37] <Ben64> shed-34046: what are you trying to do
[23:37] <Oer> shed-34046, sure, you can build your own version
[23:38] <Oer> !compile
[23:38] <bobenhaus> thelegace: thanks
[23:38] <shed-34046> Install firefox 10.0.1 from the tar.bz2 file i downloaded
[23:38] <recon_lap> Emerald_Fianna: normally it just works, when you hit a problem use google :)
[23:38] <bobenhaus> !picasa
[23:38] <jstoone> Guys, I'm about to do a backup atm. could you tell me a couple of things that you backup? Just to be sure I'm not missing anything in my script ;)
[23:38] <Ben64> shed-34046: why not use a ppa?
[23:39] <Emerald_Fianna> Cool, it seems very easy to use, I've often used the live usb for internet banking etc but this is my first time installing it from scratch
[23:39] <tonymiele> ciao
[23:39] <tonymiele> !list
[23:39] <shed-34046> I don't know i want to have the mozilla build one that i downloaded.. xD
[23:39] <jstoone> Emerald_Fianna: Welcome! :D
[23:39] <newbie-bob> I have set up my mailserver and everything works great. It is because I have in /etc/postfix/main.cf  put  [relayhost = smtp.someisp.no]. Is there another way of doing this so that I dont need a relayhost?
[23:40] <Ben64> shed-34046: ppa works better with ubuntu, and gives you updates without having to compile again
[23:40] <Vuth> which linux looks most like MAC OS?
[23:40] <shed-34046> ok
[23:40] <recon_lap> Emerald_Fianna: have a look at the synptic packet manager for installing software, it's quite different from windows
[23:40] <Emerald_Fianna> Thanks jstoone, this is how useless I am, I don't even know how to send this message so it appears in red like your one to me did!
[23:41] <Emerald_Fianna> Thanks recon_lap will do
[23:41] <gotwake> Everytime I try to install anything through the update manager or software center, it says ¨Failed to download packages¨.  can anyone help me with this?
[23:41] <Oer> Vuth, look for an OsX theme :-)
[23:41] <jstoone> Emerald_Fianna: You just did ;) whenever your name is mentioned in an IRC message it get's highlighted on your screen.
[23:41] <mkultra_> my os is very osx style
[23:41] <Vuth> Oer for linux ubuntu?
[23:42] <Oer> !theme | Vuth
[23:42] <shed-34046> How do i make it so firefox will auto update without the need to check for updates using update manger?
[23:42] <shed-34046> *manager
[23:42] <Emerald_Fianna> jstoone: so it's that easy!
[23:42] <Emerald_Fianna> Cool
[23:42] <jstoone> mkultra_: Vuth: You could take screen for him and paste it? And maybe tell him what you've done or which one you've used? (
[23:42] <recon_lap> Emerald_Fianna: and don't fear the command line, it's your friend :)
[23:42] <Andrew131> pragmaticenigma: you here?
[23:43] <Oer> Vuth, there might be a 9.4 theme too
[23:43] <Emerald_Fianna> recon_lap: cool, any good recommendations on where to get started with it?
[23:43] <Martindude> Hi
[23:43] <jstoone> Emerald_Fianna: Give me a second and I'll get you a link to where i started.
[23:43] <Martindude> Hello
[23:43] <gotwake> Could anybody help me with my issue?
[23:43] <Emerald_Fianna> jstoone: thanks
[23:43] <pragmaticenigma> Yes Andrew131
[23:44] <Andrew131> I just got back with a new USB 3.0 PCI-E card
[23:44] <Martindude> hello
[23:44] <Andrew131> same deal
[23:44] <Martindude> Can any body respond?
[23:44] <pragmaticenigma> Andrew131: Guess another thing to maybe try... Do you have a second computer?
[23:44] <Oer> !ask | Martindude
[23:45] <Andrew131> Yep
[23:45] <Andrew131> And the drive works fine on it
[23:45] <Andrew131> Which is why I was sure it was going to be this card
[23:45] <Andrew131> lol
[23:45] <pragmaticenigma> Andrew131: Same version of Ubuntu?
[23:45] <Been> hey, just put in a live disc to try ubuntu out and everything froze
[23:45] <jstoone> Emerald_Fianna: If you're interested in the Nitty Gritty, you could read this PDF - http://www.itworld.com/sites/default/files/UbuntuUnleashed2012_Helmke_ch10.pdf
[23:45] <Andrew131> Well no because I upgraded to the 3.2 kernel to see if that solved the issue
[23:45] <recon_lap> Emerald_Fianna: everyone have there own path, I just learned what i needed as i needed it, if you get stuck you can always ask in here. but you may have a different style
[23:46] <Been> the system still ran, as a window I had opened popped up, but the mouse and keyboard stopped giving any input
[23:46] <Been> I've been having this problem for a few different releases of Ubuntu
[23:46] <Martindude> Hi, I have Ubuntu 11.10 desktop 32-bit install allong side windows 7. Im having problems accesing Ubuntu documents and folders from windows
[23:46] <pragmaticenigma> Andrew131: Guess the newer kernel could be to blame.... not sure on that one
[23:46] <Martindude> any ideas?
[23:47] <Ben64> Martindude: windows doesnt support linux
[23:47] <Emerald_Fianna> jstoone, recon_lap: thanks guys
[23:47] <Andrew131> Its not the newer kernel because I put it on to see if it did solve the issue
[23:47] <CXIV> I got ubuntu image on sda6 , I want to boot it from grub2 .I need to set" set root=(hd0,6)"  ?
[23:47] <Ben64> Martindude: linux's* filesystem by default, but you can install a driver to give you limited access
[23:47] <Andrew131> No worries though I was just sort of hoping you'd have thought of something I didnt
[23:47] <pragmaticenigma> Martindude: Ubuntu and Windows use different file systems.  Ubuntu has drivers for accessing windows folders, but Window does not have support to Ubuntu files.... you will need to make sure you save your documents to your windows folders if you want to access them later in windows
[23:47] <Martindude> were can i get this driver?
[23:48] <pragmaticenigma> Andrew131: what is the motherboard make?
[23:48] <jstoone> Emerald_Fianna: Maybe you want to learn how to navigate in the terminal first, here you go - http://freshtutorial.com/basic-ubuntu-command-tutorial-for-beginners/
[23:48] <Ben64> Martindude: http://sourceforge.net/projects/ext2read/
[23:48] <Andrew131> one sec
[23:48] <Martindude> Thanks alot! this irc chat works!
[23:48] <jstoone> Emerald_Fianna: And again as recon_lab said, do not fear to ask a question, we'll try to help as much as we can (:
[23:49] <Emerald_Fianna> jstoone: thanks
[23:49] <jstoone> Emerald_Fianna: Happy nerding (:
[23:50] <Emerald_Fianna> thanks
[23:50] <Oer> Martindude, Ben64 ext2read won't work if ubuntu uses ext4
[23:50] <shed-34046> i really want to install the auto updating firefox package from the mozilla getfirefox website that i downloaded like google chrome.
[23:50] <Been> does anyone else have issues with the mouse and keyboard locking up?
[23:50] <pragmaticenigma> Oer: I use ext2read on ext4 and it works
[23:50] <Martindude> K i have sda5
[23:50] <Ben64> Oer: yes it will
[23:51]  * Oer is stunned
[23:51] <Andrew131> pragmaticenigma: http://www.nationwidesurplus.com/p-5266-hp-proliant-ml350-g4-server-system-motherboard-390546-001.aspx
[23:51] <pragmaticenigma> ext4 and ext2 are the same file system... ext4 adds more options but doesn't change anything with out the files are saved to the disk
[23:51] <Martindude> One more thimg, can some one please tell me the file path for the User's music on ubuntu?
[23:53] <Oer> Martindude, ~/Music or /home/<account>/Music
[23:53] <aeon-ltd> Martindude: the path would depend on where the user created it
[23:53] <newbie-bob> Got to go. Will return tomorrow....Bye.
[23:53] <newbie-bob> quit
[23:53] <pragmaticenigma> Andrew131: I'm stumpped... I'm really surprised that a new card wouldn't have solved the problem for you... Is it possible to boot live and test?
[23:53] <newbie-bob> \q
[23:53] <aeon-ltd> newbie-bob: other way
[23:53] <recon_lap> Martindude:  /home/$username/Music is normal default, does not mean all music goes in there though
[23:54] <Martindude> Thanks recon_lap and Oer!
[23:54] <Andrew131> I could I'm not sure what I'd get different its a pretty fresh install < 1wk and Ive really only added apache/mysql etc… to it
[23:55] <damo22> Andrew131: what is the problem, sorry i joined late
[23:55] <pragmaticenigma> It really shouldn't matter Andrew131, but stranger things have happened
[23:55] <gotwake> OK, I´m on 11.10.  Every time I try to download anything in software manager, it says ¨Failed to download packages¨.  Check internet connection.  I am connected.  Can anybody help?
[23:56] <pragmaticenigma> gotwake: Do you have any firewalls enabled?
[23:57] <Andrew131> Hey damo22, I've got a usb external hard drive.  In the logs I get that the high speed usb device is reset and then any process that has anything to do with the hard drive is blocked
[23:57] <gotwake> I don´t believe so, how can I find out?
[23:57] <Andrew131> ie ls, cp, even fdisk
[23:57] <Andrew131> The rest of the OS continues to chug along
[23:59] <Andrew131> I figured since the drive works on another machine and I updated the bios, tried a new kernel, it must be the usb controller
[23:59] <Andrew131> So I just ran out and grabbed a new 3.0 usb pcie card and tried that
[23:59] <damo22> Andrew131: i have noticed other people having issues with usb3
[23:59] <Andrew131> Same deal except instead of the error being high speed its super speed b/c of 3.0