| === XartaoX is now known as artao | ||
| TresEquis_ | I've somehow lost my jackd sound in US oneirc | 03:14 |
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| TresEquis_ | I was happily recording last weekend, but no joy tonight | 03:15 |
| TresEquis_ | pulse can play to / record from the mixer, but not jack | 03:15 |
| TresEquis_ | I'd love to kill off pulse, but it appears to be revenant | 03:16 |
| TresEquis_ | any theories on what I can poke? The only recent install which looks at all relevant is usbmuxd | 03:18 |
| TresEquis_ | and that looks completely unrelated | 03:23 |
| holstein | TresEquis_: cool... try gksudo qjackctl | 03:41 |
| holstein | hit start... report error messages | 03:41 |
| TresEquis_ | no error messages either on terminal or the qjackctl Messages window | 03:43 |
| holstein | TresEquis_: then, its likely running, and you just need to route things to where ever you want,and go for it :) | 03:43 |
| holstein | TresEquis_: you mean, no errors messages as root? | 03:44 |
| holstein | try starting it as normal user and see | 03:44 |
| TresEquis_ | right, sames as my normal qjackctl | 03:44 |
| holstein | TresEquis_: it'll just run... | 03:44 |
| TresEquis_ | how should the connection graph look? Currently, system:capture{1,2} are wired up to PA Jack Source front:{left,right} | 03:47 |
| TresEquis_ | and likewise, PA Jack Sink (7 ports?) are wired to system playback:* | 03:48 |
| holstein | TresEquis_: depends | 03:48 |
| holstein | if you want to record some pulse source, thats how it could look | 03:48 |
| TresEquis_ | I'd really rather ignore pulse altogether | 03:49 |
| holstein | or if you want to route your capture to something via pulse, which i wouldnt think you would want to do | 03:49 |
| holstein | TresEquis_: then, un-hook pulse | 03:49 |
| TresEquis_ | OK | 03:51 |
| holstein | TresEquis_: its challening to get started using JACK... or can be | 03:51 |
| holstein | check out #opensourcemusicians if you like | 03:51 |
| TresEquis_ | now when I start Hydrogen, for instance, it has outputs routed to system:playback* | 03:51 |
| holstein | TresEquis_: sure | 03:51 |
| TresEquis_ | but no sound goes to the card | 03:52 |
| holstein | thats default so you can hear it | 03:52 |
| holstein | TresEquis_: try the other outputs | 03:52 |
| holstein | make sure the card is up, on, plugged in or whatever | 03:52 |
| holstein | if you have more than one out, try the other outputs | 03:52 |
| holstein | open a terminal, and check in alsamixer | 03:52 |
| TresEquis_ | its there -- I can tap the mic and hear output on the monitors | 03:52 |
| holstein | TresEquis_: cool | 03:53 |
| holstein | so, just H2 isnt working then? | 03:53 |
| holstein | i would step back or forward a version | 03:53 |
| holstein | i remember having a buggy version of H2 in 9.10 | 03:53 |
| TresEquis_ | is there a simple jack client tone generator I can test with? | 03:55 |
| TresEquis_ | I only know Ardour and Hydrogen at all well | 03:56 |
| holstein | TresEquis_: i use zynaddsubfx | 03:57 |
| holstein | or anything really | 03:57 |
| holstein | audacious has JACK output | 03:57 |
| TresEquis_ | zsynaddsubfx appears to be OSS only | 04:02 |
| holstein | TresEquis_: ? | 04:03 |
| holstein | TresEquis_: try audacious | 04:03 |
| holstein | TresEquis_: just try things til you find something you can use | 04:03 |
| holstein | there are configurations in H2 | 04:03 |
| holstein | if its set to use pulse or alsa, it wont use JACK of course | 04:04 |
| holstein | JACK needs to be running as normal user, then you start zynaddsubfx | 04:04 |
| holstein | you should see zyn in the audio tab, and in the MIDI tab | 04:04 |
| TresEquis_ | audacious is happily playing to JACKD, but no sound | 04:06 |
| holstein | TresEquis_: cool | 04:06 |
| holstein | im about 99% sure its a routing issue | 04:06 |
| holstein | TresEquis_: double *double* check that its routed properly | 04:07 |
| TresEquis_ | I'm using hw:1 (my USB mixer) for both input and output in jackd | 04:07 |
| holstein | TresEquis_: are you? | 04:07 |
| holstein | try with teh internal card | 04:07 |
| holstein | the* | 04:07 |
| TresEquis_ | that works (plugging headphones into front jack) | 04:09 |
| holstein | TresEquis_: cool.. thats how it'll work when you have the USB device configured properly | 04:10 |
| holstein | i suggest just using the internal card for a bit | 04:10 |
| TresEquis_ | the USB device was working last week | 04:10 |
| holstein | TresEquis_: cool | 04:10 |
| TresEquis_ | internal card isn't capable of what I want | 04:10 |
| holstein | TresEquis_: im sure you'll aquire the skill to get it working again | 04:10 |
| holstein | TresEquis_: then, you'll need to troubleshoot the connection in JACK | 04:11 |
| holstein | TresEquis_: there are 2 different dropdown arrows near "device" in jack | 04:11 |
| holstein | try looking there for the USB device | 04:11 |
| TresEquis_ | that is where I picked hw:1 before -- it still shows there | 04:12 |
| holstein | TresEquis_: OK | 04:12 |
| holstein | then, it *should* be working | 04:12 |
| holstein | JACK is working | 04:12 |
| holstein | if you upgraded, or changed kernels or alsa versions, that could cause breakage | 04:12 |
| holstein | im sure its just something fiddly though | 04:13 |
| TresEquis_ | no new packages since last weekend except openssl | 04:13 |
| holstein | TresEquis_: OK | 04:13 |
| holstein | then its just a configuration issue | 04:14 |
| TresEquis_ | and I'm pretty sure *that* isn't the culprit | 04:14 |
| holstein | TresEquis_: OK | 04:14 |
| holstein | the only thing it can be is the configuration of that device with JACK | 04:14 |
| holstein | JACK is working | 04:14 |
| holstein | the apps are working | 04:14 |
| holstein | JACK doesnt work with that bunk config to that USB device | 04:14 |
| TresEquis_ | one oddity is that I'm seeing 8 system:playback ports, but the device only does stereo | 04:17 |
| holstein | TresEquis_: right.. you are *not* choosing that USB device | 04:17 |
| holstein | its mis-configured | 04:17 |
| TresEquis_ | ok | 04:18 |
| TresEquis_ | I'l try powering it down and back on again | 04:18 |
| holstein | TresEquis_: sure.. try something | 04:19 |
| holstein | JACK is working though | 04:19 |
| TresEquis_ | qjackctl seems to be leaving jackdbus processes running, and needing kill -9 | 04:23 |
| TresEquis_ | hmm, trying to run jackd from the command line: | 04:25 |
| TresEquis_ | $ cat .jackdrc | 04:25 |
| TresEquis_ | /usr/bin/jackd -dalsa -r44100 -p64 -n2 -D -Chw:1 -Phw:1 -i2 -o2 | 04:25 |
| TresEquis_ | $ . .jackdrc | 04:26 |
| TresEquis_ | ... | 04:26 |
| TresEquis_ | control device hw:1 | 04:26 |
| TresEquis_ | the playback device "hw:1" is already in use. Please stop the application using it and run JACK again | 04:26 |
| TresEquis_ | Cannot initialize driver | 04:26 |
| TresEquis_ | and now pulseaudio is running again | 04:26 |
| holstein | TresEquis_: not sure man | 04:26 |
| holstein | you *know* JACK works though | 04:26 |
| TresEquis_ | not against hw:1 | 04:26 |
| holstein | TresEquis_: those can change | 04:27 |
| holstein | i would reboot with the USB unplugged | 04:27 |
| holstein | or, disable the internal in the bios | 04:27 |
| TresEquis_ | OK, I just tried disabling both cards in the PA volume control | 04:28 |
| TresEquis_ | and restarting jackd from the command line | 04:28 |
| TresEquis_ | that works (at least, it doesn't bomb out | 04:28 |
| TresEquis_ | yep, I'm hearing sound in the tape-to-headphone channel of the mixer | 04:29 |
| holstein | you mean, have conflicts with servers already running? | 04:29 |
| TresEquis_ | when I try to start jackd (no pulseaudio or jackd already running), pulseaudio starts up and grabs the port | 04:30 |
| TresEquis_ | unless I disable it from using the USB device at all | 04:30 |
| holstein | TresEquis_: sure | 04:30 |
| holstein | that sounds about right | 04:30 |
| TresEquis_ | I knew I hated pulseaudio | 04:30 |
| holstein | TresEquis_: yeah? | 04:30 |
| holstein | i mean... you dont have to like it | 04:30 |
| holstein | but its doing what its supposed to | 04:30 |
| TresEquis_ | No, it is stepping on jackd | 04:31 |
| holstein | i regularly use alsa-only and pulse systmes | 04:31 |
| holstein | i have issues with both | 04:31 |
| holstein | TresEquis_: sure | 04:31 |
| TresEquis_ | *I* didn | 04:31 |
| holstein | its supposed to | 04:31 |
| holstein | its a server | 04:31 |
| TresEquis_ | t ask it to run | 04:31 |
| holstein | its already running | 04:31 |
| TresEquis_ | no, I killed it | 04:31 |
| holstein | TresEquis_: you can strip it out though | 04:31 |
| holstein | TresEquis_: right, but the JACK sink module is starting it up again | 04:31 |
| holstein | as configured | 04:31 |
| holstein | thats what i dont need.. i dont need pulse and JACK running at the same time | 04:32 |
| holstein | but, if it gets seemless, i think its great | 04:32 |
| TresEquis_ | somehow, when jackd starts, if PA has the device enabled in its config, PA starts too | 04:34 |
| TresEquis_ | which is not what I want | 04:34 |
| holstein | right... thats the pulse sink module | 04:34 |
| holstein | it runs, or tries to run pulse | 04:34 |
| holstein | you can strip it all out | 04:34 |
| TresEquis_ | thanks for the help | 04:41 |
| holstein | TresEquis_: sure... anytime | 04:41 |
| TresEquis_ | holstein, I see from http://opensourcemusician.com that you are a bassist | 05:30 |
| TresEquis_ | I'm not one, I'm just a guitarist who fakes it :) | 05:30 |
| TresEquis_ | but I was just able to lay down the bass line I wanted against the drums from Hydrogen | 05:31 |
| TresEquis_ | thanks again. Nytol | 05:43 |
| raven_ | hi | 15:20 |
| raven_ | what is the best way to sync rosegarden, ardour and jack? | 15:20 |
| === tsimpson_ is now known as tsimpson | ||
| holstein | raven_: using JACK | 15:44 |
| holstein | depends on what you are trying to do with them | 15:45 |
| holstein | they should sync with each other using JACK | 15:45 |
| raven_ | ok ill try that tnx | 15:45 |
| holstein | though, when i have done that, i get things working together, and i track my MIDI as audio in ardour | 15:45 |
| holstein | you can also ask in #opensourcemusicians | 15:45 |
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