=== XartaoX is now known as artao [03:14] I've somehow lost my jackd sound in US oneirc [03:15] I was happily recording last weekend, but no joy tonight [03:15] pulse can play to / record from the mixer, but not jack [03:16] I'd love to kill off pulse, but it appears to be revenant [03:18] any theories on what I can poke? The only recent install which looks at all relevant is usbmuxd [03:23] and that looks completely unrelated [03:41] TresEquis_: cool... try gksudo qjackctl [03:41] hit start... report error messages [03:43] no error messages either on terminal or the qjackctl Messages window [03:43] TresEquis_: then, its likely running, and you just need to route things to where ever you want,and go for it :) [03:44] TresEquis_: you mean, no errors messages as root? [03:44] try starting it as normal user and see [03:44] right, sames as my normal qjackctl [03:44] TresEquis_: it'll just run... [03:47] how should the connection graph look? Currently, system:capture{1,2} are wired up to PA Jack Source front:{left,right} [03:48] and likewise, PA Jack Sink (7 ports?) are wired to system playback:* [03:48] TresEquis_: depends [03:48] if you want to record some pulse source, thats how it could look [03:49] I'd really rather ignore pulse altogether [03:49] or if you want to route your capture to something via pulse, which i wouldnt think you would want to do [03:49] TresEquis_: then, un-hook pulse [03:51] OK [03:51] TresEquis_: its challening to get started using JACK... or can be [03:51] check out #opensourcemusicians if you like [03:51] now when I start Hydrogen, for instance, it has outputs routed to system:playback* [03:51] TresEquis_: sure [03:52] but no sound goes to the card [03:52] thats default so you can hear it [03:52] TresEquis_: try the other outputs [03:52] make sure the card is up, on, plugged in or whatever [03:52] if you have more than one out, try the other outputs [03:52] open a terminal, and check in alsamixer [03:52] its there -- I can tap the mic and hear output on the monitors [03:53] TresEquis_: cool [03:53] so, just H2 isnt working then? [03:53] i would step back or forward a version [03:53] i remember having a buggy version of H2 in 9.10 [03:55] is there a simple jack client tone generator I can test with? [03:56] I only know Ardour and Hydrogen at all well [03:57] TresEquis_: i use zynaddsubfx [03:57] or anything really [03:57] audacious has JACK output [04:02] zsynaddsubfx appears to be OSS only [04:03] TresEquis_: ? [04:03] TresEquis_: try audacious [04:03] TresEquis_: just try things til you find something you can use [04:03] there are configurations in H2 [04:04] if its set to use pulse or alsa, it wont use JACK of course [04:04] JACK needs to be running as normal user, then you start zynaddsubfx [04:04] you should see zyn in the audio tab, and in the MIDI tab [04:06] audacious is happily playing to JACKD, but no sound [04:06] TresEquis_: cool [04:06] im about 99% sure its a routing issue [04:07] TresEquis_: double *double* check that its routed properly [04:07] I'm using hw:1 (my USB mixer) for both input and output in jackd [04:07] TresEquis_: are you? [04:07] try with teh internal card [04:07] the* [04:09] that works (plugging headphones into front jack) [04:10] TresEquis_: cool.. thats how it'll work when you have the USB device configured properly [04:10] i suggest just using the internal card for a bit [04:10] the USB device was working last week [04:10] TresEquis_: cool [04:10] internal card isn't capable of what I want [04:10] TresEquis_: im sure you'll aquire the skill to get it working again [04:11] TresEquis_: then, you'll need to troubleshoot the connection in JACK [04:11] TresEquis_: there are 2 different dropdown arrows near "device" in jack [04:11] try looking there for the USB device [04:12] that is where I picked hw:1 before -- it still shows there [04:12] TresEquis_: OK [04:12] then, it *should* be working [04:12] JACK is working [04:12] if you upgraded, or changed kernels or alsa versions, that could cause breakage [04:13] im sure its just something fiddly though [04:13] no new packages since last weekend except openssl [04:13] TresEquis_: OK [04:14] then its just a configuration issue [04:14] and I'm pretty sure *that* isn't the culprit [04:14] TresEquis_: OK [04:14] the only thing it can be is the configuration of that device with JACK [04:14] JACK is working [04:14] the apps are working [04:14] JACK doesnt work with that bunk config to that USB device [04:17] one oddity is that I'm seeing 8 system:playback ports, but the device only does stereo [04:17] TresEquis_: right.. you are *not* choosing that USB device [04:17] its mis-configured [04:18] ok [04:18] I'l try powering it down and back on again [04:19] TresEquis_: sure.. try something [04:19] JACK is working though [04:23] qjackctl seems to be leaving jackdbus processes running, and needing kill -9 [04:25] hmm, trying to run jackd from the command line: [04:25] $ cat .jackdrc [04:25] /usr/bin/jackd -dalsa -r44100 -p64 -n2 -D -Chw:1 -Phw:1 -i2 -o2 [04:26] $ . .jackdrc [04:26] ... [04:26] control device hw:1 [04:26] the playback device "hw:1" is already in use. Please stop the application using it and run JACK again [04:26] Cannot initialize driver [04:26] and now pulseaudio is running again [04:26] TresEquis_: not sure man [04:26] you *know* JACK works though [04:26] not against hw:1 [04:27] TresEquis_: those can change [04:27] i would reboot with the USB unplugged [04:27] or, disable the internal in the bios [04:28] OK, I just tried disabling both cards in the PA volume control [04:28] and restarting jackd from the command line [04:28] that works (at least, it doesn't bomb out [04:29] yep, I'm hearing sound in the tape-to-headphone channel of the mixer [04:29] you mean, have conflicts with servers already running? [04:30] when I try to start jackd (no pulseaudio or jackd already running), pulseaudio starts up and grabs the port [04:30] unless I disable it from using the USB device at all [04:30] TresEquis_: sure [04:30] that sounds about right [04:30] I knew I hated pulseaudio [04:30] TresEquis_: yeah? [04:30] i mean... you dont have to like it [04:30] but its doing what its supposed to [04:31] No, it is stepping on jackd [04:31] i regularly use alsa-only and pulse systmes [04:31] i have issues with both [04:31] TresEquis_: sure [04:31] *I* didn [04:31] its supposed to [04:31] its a server [04:31] t ask it to run [04:31] its already running [04:31] no, I killed it [04:31] TresEquis_: you can strip it out though [04:31] TresEquis_: right, but the JACK sink module is starting it up again [04:31] as configured [04:32] thats what i dont need.. i dont need pulse and JACK running at the same time [04:32] but, if it gets seemless, i think its great [04:34] somehow, when jackd starts, if PA has the device enabled in its config, PA starts too [04:34] which is not what I want [04:34] right... thats the pulse sink module [04:34] it runs, or tries to run pulse [04:34] you can strip it all out [04:41] thanks for the help [04:41] TresEquis_: sure... anytime [05:30] holstein, I see from http://opensourcemusician.com that you are a bassist [05:30] I'm not one, I'm just a guitarist who fakes it :) [05:31] but I was just able to lay down the bass line I wanted against the drums from Hydrogen [05:43] thanks again. Nytol [15:20] hi [15:20] what is the best way to sync rosegarden, ardour and jack? === tsimpson_ is now known as tsimpson [15:44] raven_: using JACK [15:45] depends on what you are trying to do with them [15:45] they should sync with each other using JACK [15:45] ok ill try that tnx [15:45] though, when i have done that, i get things working together, and i track my MIDI as audio in ardour [15:45] you can also ask in #opensourcemusicians