[00:51] <duelle> Hi, do I have to change any settings to get a encrypted volume (created under ubuntu) mounted within a xubuntu live cd session? Got always "permission denied" error messages :(
[06:21] <xubuntu165> Hi.New toXubunt; just got Xubuntu installed(dualboot),using Wubi. Have a question: 'The Progrees' bar at the bottom of Install's'Thank You' oage is not complete and is taking 4ever. Is thsi normal?
[06:43] <ztag100> Could anyone let me know why this happens?
[06:43] <ztag100> http://imgur.com/ExcLs
[06:45] <laite> ztag100: looks like conky was created before background image is set
[06:45] <ztag100> laite: how can I fix this? I just want the image to be transparent
[06:45] <laite> not sure if it helps, but if conky is started on startup, perhaps you could do a script with 'sleep 5' or similar
[06:45] <ztag100> do I put that line at the top of the code
[06:45] <laite> you have to do a bash (.sh) script, I believe
[06:46] <laite> how do you launch conky atm
[06:46] <ztag100> I'm just messing arround, and launchung it with conky
[06:46] <ztag100> until I find a setup I like
[06:47] <ztag100> Any ideas?
[06:47] <laite> is the 'where there is shell...' terminal or desktop background??
[06:47] <ztag100> I'm sorry, what?
[06:48] <laite> it seems that you have terminal open (ziad@ZiadNetBook), or is that just an image?
[06:48] <ztag100> my problem is that conky is supposed to be transparent, but it isn;t
[06:48] <ztag100> Oh, no, the terminal is open
[06:48] <laite> you could check conky windowmodes, don't remember exactly what they are called
[06:48] <laite> there should be some options that might be helpful
[06:49] <ztag100> I like having a terminal on my desktop, it makes me feel 1337
[06:49] <laite> sorry I'm not much more help, it's been a way too long since I played with conky :/
[06:49] <laite> =D
[06:49] <ztag100> It is depressing me, lol
[06:50] <ztag100> is there anything better I can try?
[06:50] <laite> http://conky.sourceforge.net/faq.html
[06:50] <laite> see #6
[06:51] <laite> step-by-step instructions: http://www.worldoweb.co.uk/2011/fix-conky-transparency-issue
[06:51] <laite> hope it works
[06:52] <ztag100> thanks
[06:53] <ztag100> I'm looking now
[07:03] <ztag100>  Thanks So much
[07:03] <ztag100> it works now
[07:03] <laite> \o/
[07:04] <ztag100> :)
[07:06] <ztag100> it takes a while to launch though
[07:07] <laite> if you used 'sleep' command (as the step-by-step instruction did) the number after is 'idle delay' in seconds
[07:07] <laite> e.g. 'sleep 30 && conky' waits simply 30 seconds before launching conky
[07:08] <laite> you can try reducing the amount
[07:08] <ztag100> Oh, I could make it like, 2?
[07:08] <ztag100> and it would still work?
[07:08] <laite> yeah, but it should be enough for background to load
[07:08] <laite> that's the reason for waiting
[07:09] <ztag100> It worked
[07:09] <ztag100> with 2
[07:09] <ztag100> :)
[07:09] <laite> nice :)
[07:25] <wai0004> Hello
[07:28] <ztag100> laite: I just want you to know, you're awesome
[07:28] <ztag100> first time I get legit help in irc, in a LONG time
[07:29] <ztag100> I finally have an epic desktop
[07:32] <ztag100> http://imgur.com/DUjIa
[07:36] <baizon> mine is better :P
[07:37] <ztag100> baizon: post it!
[07:38] <ztag100> lol
[07:38] <ztag100> I love customizing desktops, even on my cellphone
[07:39] <baizon> ztag100: http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=11680302&postcount=187
[07:40] <ztag100> cool
[07:40] <ztag100> why do you keep conky on the bottom right? instead of top right
[07:42] <baizon> ztag100: cause when i open the nm-applet popup it would cover it
[07:43]  * ztag100 nods
[07:44] <ztag100> I kind of have a classic unix theme going on
[07:44] <baizon> :)
[07:48] <ztag100> brb, testing out my session updates
[10:37] <XartaoX> jGAHHHH!!! ... how do I tell linux xfce WHICH monitor I want to be the primary one!! .. it keeps defualting to my secondary monitor for full-screen apps .. specifically games under wine
[10:41] <TheSheep> XartaoX: I think xranr has an option for that
[10:47] <XartaoX> not that i've noticed .. it's kinda hard to use .. i've been using arandr
[10:47] <XartaoX> xrandr
[10:47] <XartaoX> oops. this ain't a terminal hah!
[10:49] <XartaoX> hmmm ... wait
[10:49] <XartaoX> maybe the 'easy' solution is to switch how they're physically plugged into the computer
[10:50] <XartaoX> which, of course, will require a reboot
[10:50] <XartaoX> brb
[10:53] <Myrtti> I prefer grandr, it's a bit more informative than arandr
[10:58] <XartaoX> ok that uhh ... that appears to have worked
[10:58] <XartaoX> odd tho .. my vid-out splitter is CLEARLY labled 1 and 2
[11:19] <pjotter> Hello. I don; t know if this is the right place to ask: But I have a problem with "gfce4-notes(-plugin)". When I won't remember any tekst I type in the note. When I log out, and log back in, all text has disappeared. Maybe I am doing something wrong, here?
[12:02] <betaArk> Hi! anyone that uses emerald or knows a good alternative?
[12:03] <betaArk> I really want to have smooth borders on xfce, and also would like some effects?
[12:03] <mongy> webupd8 ppa has emerald
[12:04] <betaArk> mongy: can't use ppa.. I'm at Archlinux at the moment..
[12:05] <knome> this is not the right channel for support then
[12:05] <mongy> http://compiz-themes.org/
[12:05] <betaArk> knome: sorry I know.. I just wanted to ask if Xubuntu has smooth borders with XFCE and effects..
[12:06] <mongy> betaArk: only if you install compiz and emerald.
[12:06] <mongy> or use the gtk-window decorator
[12:06] <betaArk> mongy: oke.. so default has no smooth borders?
[12:06] <knome> betaArk, asking that right away would've been the correct question then
[12:07] <betaArk> knome: yes, sorry.
[12:07] <knome> np
[13:24] <duelle> Hi, do I have to change any settings to get a encrypted volume (created under ubuntu) mounted within a xubuntu live cd session? I always  get "permission denied" error messages :(
[13:27] <mongy> should just ask for pass and then mount.. my external encrypted with cryptsetup/disk utility does
[13:28] <duelle> mongy: It asks for the passphrase - but although the passphrase is 100% correct, i get that "permission denied" error. I tried to mount it via the graphical interface yet -perhaps i don't have enough permissions to mount in live cd mode?
[13:30] <mongy> let me test something
[13:33] <duelle> I just want to test whether mounting works correctly within xubuntu before uninstalling ubuntu und switching to xubuntu.
[13:36] <mongy> ah, because the permissions to it are rw for owneer only.
[13:40] <duelle> mongy:  So I can't mount the volume in live cd mode? That doesn't matter at all if I can be sure, that it works with xubuntu installed on my drive.
[13:43] <mongy> it works, yes
[13:45] <duelle> Ok, thanks a lot mongy!
[13:45] <mongy> Im not sure how to mount it with the username you created it with.. only thing I can think of is just make your user in the livecd, give it sudo rights and login
[13:47] <duelle> mongy: Ok, I'll give it a try - feels a bit more secure if i can make it work before installing the new os ;)
[13:47] <mongy> the same guts in xubuntu as in ubuntu
[13:59] <mongy> same guts, less fat :)
[14:09] <duelle> mongy: My main aim is to get rid of some driver/flash-related issues... hopefully my drivers dont get messed up too then
[14:25] <mongy> what issues
[14:31] <duelle> mongy: https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-users/2012-February/257250.html
[14:32] <duelle> mongy: I think that some drivers are messed up because this system has been upgraded several times. Hopefully those problems are solved by making a fresh install.
[14:33] <mongy> are you 64bit?
[14:37] <duelle> mongy: Yes
[14:40] <mongy> dunno if it will make any difference but, are you using the flash from flashplugin-installer/xubuntu-restricted-extras?
[14:42] <duelle> mongy: At the moment I am using ubuntu (without x yet ;) ). I tried different flash versions. The last one I tried was the one from ubuntu repos. Right at the moment i try the flashplayer so-module from adobe website.
[14:42] <mongy> well, the thing is, the one from regular repo needs a bunch of 32bit libs, and the one from the partner repo (adobe-flashplugin) does not..
[14:43] <mongy> so, just saying, maybe purge flashplugin-installer and its 32bit stuff and install the one from partner repo.
[14:45] <duelle> I used the sevenmachines 64bit flash before upgrading to 11.10 for a long time without any problems. But after adobe put up its own 64bit version sevenmachines was gone. So your advice is to make sure to use the adobe-flashplugin instead of flashplugin-installer, right?
[14:45] <mongy> bbiab
[14:46] <mongy> its similar to the sevenmachines one then, as its true 64bit.
[14:46] <mongy> so, yes..
[14:47] <duelle> Ok, then i'll go testing the current flash version and if it doesn't work ill give the adobe-* version a try. If everything works fine i wont be away ;) Otherwise there will be a forced reboot ;) and then ill be back^^
[14:47] <mongy> why not have some logs open in view while you are playing vids. might catch some info
[14:53] <duelle> mongy: The manually downloaded version crashed too :( So now i'll try the adobe-* version
[15:03] <duelle> mongy: Now I'm running that adobe-* version. I couldn't reproduce a system freeze yet (which was very easy with the previous versions). Now I just get "The Adobe Flash plugin has crashed" messages. Thats lots better than killing my whole system ;)
[15:04] <duelle> If there would a way to find out why that plugin crashed I could perhaps find the source of the whole thing.
[15:04] <mongy> wish they would kill flash and make html5 more default
[15:05] <mongy> why not use something like minitube, doesnt use flash
[15:06] <duelle> I used the FlashVideoReplacer FF-Addon recently. But it couldnt replace all videos unfortunately. Does minitube work with _all_ videos? Just read about it while rebooting my system (after freeze)
[15:06] <mongy> check Xorg logs and dmesg etc
[15:06] <mongy> from what I read it does
[15:17] <duelle> mongy: You helped me a lot. For now i'm very happy that my system doesn't  get killed whenever i open yt-videos. Now I'll try minitube. Eventually I will switch to xubuntu - just to have a clean installation once in a while.
[15:18] <mongy> might be your video driver.  I dont have any issues with flash.
[15:22] <duelle> I didn't either when using sevenmachines flash. Now it seems to work fine for now. Thanks a lot!
[15:23] <mongy> not sure but, try removing your homes .macromedia  and .adobe stuff
[15:23] <mongy> left over crud.
[15:23] <mongy> have you set youtube to use html5 when it can ?
[15:23] <mongy> doesnt work on all vids, wish it would
[15:24] <duelle> Yes I did. As you say - did work for some but not all vids
[15:25] <mongy> amazes me after years and years flash is STILL a problem for linux
[15:27] <duelle> Yeah - there are several projects like gnash and so on. But as many proprietary standards it just partly works with the "original".
[15:27] <duelle> afaik
[15:29] <mongy> gnash was horribly slow last time I tried it.  was maybe a year ago now
[15:30]  * mongy relinux'n custom pimped xubuntu
[15:30] <duelle> Do you use minitube yourself?
[15:30] <mongy> nah.  no need really.
[15:30] <duelle> relinux?
[15:31] <mongy> remastersys clone
[15:31] <duelle> Was a tool to create own live/boot cd right?
[15:31] <mongy> yup
[15:33] <duelle> Do you use the file manager shipped with xubuntu? Read a few days ago that it can't display properties of multiple files/folders. Is there a cause for that?
[15:34] <mongy> just removed some stuff, installed different apps, different theme, a few settings here and there and throwing it up on my vps to torrent for anyone that wants it.  target audience would be people wanting to use mint/cinammon/gnome3 classic.
[15:34] <mongy> that was probably me
[15:34] <mongy> I use thunar, and no it can't.  Nice workaround using custom actions though
[15:35] <mongy> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1052027
[15:36] <duelle> Tried gnome3 - but wasn't my flavour to be honest. Unity would be very great if the customizability would be better and multi screen rules would be more obvious
[15:36] <duelle> imho
[15:37] <mongy> shell really isnt my cup of tea.  of the 2, unity wipes the floor with it.
[15:39] <duelle> I like the ways they free space by merging some controls. Just missing the possibility to customize stuff (like adding items to panels and so on).
[15:40] <duelle> What do you mean with "unity wipes the floor with it"
[15:44] <mongy> I prefer it to gnome-shell
[15:44] <mongy> if I had to use one of them
[15:46] <duelle> I would like a combination of gnome2-control/config and unity-like control-merging the most ;)
[15:48] <mongy> xfce is all I want
[15:56] <duelle> mongy: g2g now. Thanks a lot for your help! Perhaps we'll meet here again when i ask some xubuntu-noob questions ;) bye^
[15:57] <mongy> later
[16:16] <mongy> http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=article&item=ubuntu_1204_desktops&num=1  xfce wins in gaming performance.
[16:17] <baizon> mongy: yeah saw it :D
[16:24] <baizon> xfce is the best DE! :D
[18:51] <Istvan> hi
[18:52] <Istvan> i have one question, how do i close down x so that i can install the nvidia driver?
[18:53] <TheSheep> Istvan: sudo /etc/inid.d/lightdm stop
[18:53] <Unit193> It'll complain that you didn't use "sudo service lightdm stop", but it's the same thing.
[18:53] <TheSheep> Istvan: but better install the driver provided by ubuntu
[18:54] <Unit193> In the "jockey" program.
[18:54] <Istvan> ok, but where do i find that?
[18:54] <Istvan> im a noob at linux, sorry
[18:54] <Unit193> Menu > System > Additional Drivers
[18:56] <Istvan> thx alot
[18:56] <Unit193> The alot says you're welcome.
[19:08] <{GiGi}> Hello. I'm pretty new with Linux, but could someone please tell me howcome I cannot connect the PC to the internet. Connection works as it was tested and no matter what option do I try, I can't get it to connect. Doesn't matter whether it's connected directly to the modem or to the router. Connection was tested when connected to the router.
[19:08] <mongy> any good osx lion type theme for xfce?
[19:10] <GridCube> !themes
[19:10] <GridCube> mongy, ^^^
[19:30] <andythenoob> good evening all..are the rules if I have a question just to go ahead and ask?
[19:31] <GridCube> !ask
[19:31] <GridCube> yes andythenoob
[19:31] <andythenoob> !ask
[19:31] <GridCube> ;P andythenoob i just made the bot to tell you that :D
[19:32] <andythenoob> ok have been playing with a few distro's on an old emachines desktop amd64 chip with 1gb ram and an onboard radeon xpress 200g video card
[19:33] <andythenoob> the wifi is via a mini realtek dongle rl8188 into my ap
[19:33] <andythenoob> problems are: random disabling of wifi unit, to be precise the connection is dropped and cannot reconnect, even after a reboot...reconneciton is random
[19:34] <andythenoob> also i get random total system hang...the system just stops with a white screen that has a few vertical lines on it. reboot the only option
[19:34] <mongy> yeah, not really finding a good one there
[19:34] <andythenoob> have come to xubuntu to rule out the gui of other distros being the issue, love it and really want to perservere
[19:35] <andythenoob> no clue to be honest whre to start troubleshooting...im not a total novice but this distro is very new to me
[19:35] <andythenoob> thoughts? while the connection up I can run diags etc
[19:35] <andythenoob> update manager hangs every time i run it also
[19:47] <andythenoob> no thoughts any1?
[19:48] <GridCube> andythenoob, care to do a test for me?
[19:49] <GridCube> if it works your system will work
[19:49] <GridCube> if not i might break it worse XD
[19:49] <andythenoob> ok its a fresh install, nothing to lose here
[19:50] <GridCube> i had a machine with a similar problem a few months ago, the thing i did to make it work was changing lightdm back to gdm
[19:51] <GridCube> so i unninstalled lightdm, with sudo apt-get purge lightdm && sudo apt-get install gdm
[19:51] <GridCube> it then worked
[19:51] <GridCube> no idea why
[19:52] <andythenoob> ok willing to try, that command is good to go right?
[19:53] <GridCube> it will uninstall a dm and install another
[19:54] <andythenoob> ok i'll give it a go and see, bak soon s'pose, thanks
[19:54] <GridCube> i wont break stuff beyond that, you can get lightdm back if you do the reverse
[19:54] <andythenoob> ok :)
[21:06] <GridCube> so, just updated and lost the nvidia drivers, screen is at 800x600 and jockey doesnt want to install the nvidia drivers and tells me to look at /var/log/jockey.log > http://paste.ubuntu.com/839647/
[21:06] <GridCube> :(
[21:07] <GridCube> this is why i hate to do updates
[21:07] <Unit193> Without looking at the log, did you say Vbox? Also try jockey-text (terminal)
[21:07] <GridCube> no vbox, normal box
[21:08] <GridCube> jockey-text searchs for drivers and then closes with no error or anything just closes
[21:09] <GridCube> the updates did updated xorg
[21:10] <Unit193> Since I have a card not really supported, I find generating an Xorg.conf seems to fix my res.
[21:12] <GridCube> i don't even know why i put myself in this kind of situations anymore, why do i keep doing updates...
[21:13] <mongy> I guess kernel updates aren't really needed with the 6 month release cycle, if you get them
[21:13] <GridCube> i did not applied them
[21:14] <GridCube> i avoided the kernel update, becuase of this, and this still happens
[21:17] <GridCube> im trying another of the nvidia drivers now, current-updates instead of current, it seems to be going
[21:17]  * GridCube cross fingers
[21:19] <GridCube> AWWWW ;_;
[21:19] <GridCube> it did not work
[21:19] <GridCube> dont tell me, i need to apply the kernel update
[21:26] <GridCube> \o/ yay more errors! UPDATING IS FUN
[21:27] <GridCube> http://paste.ubuntu.com/839676/
[21:27] <andythenoob> hi all gridcube helped me before with a wm change, but wireless disconnects seemingly randomly and I have to reboot to reconnect. No system crash yet though after changing. I did notice a dmesg about a segment fault in glcells so i turned off my screensaver as it kicked in when trying to use update manager.. thoughts on why the wireless card disconnects? Also I have a new driver on cd, but no idea how to install it. read
[21:27] <andythenoob> me is no goos and the install.sh doesn't seem to run. should i copy to the hdd and if so where is recommended in the filesystem?
[21:27] <andythenoob> am doing a command line apt-get update to see if that works
[21:28] <GridCube> andythenoob, so changind the dm made the hanging and the 'having to reboot' go away?
[21:29] <GridCube> ok, gonna reboot once again
[21:32] <andythenoob> hi gridcube. changing the dm so far hasn't hung the system but i did lose the wireless ...the realtek usb dongle disconn and would not reconn until a reboot
[21:33] <GridCube> mmm i don't know about that
[21:33] <andythenoob> im thinking if the screensave caused this due to the messages in dmesg about seg fault?
[21:33] <GridCube> what does lsusb says about your device?
[21:34] <GridCube> oh! wait, i think i have it! one last reboot and i should have video drivers again
[21:34] <GridCube> brb
[21:37] <GridCube> :D
[21:37] <GridCube> YES!
[21:37] <GridCube> stuff works again
[21:37] <matthew> i am having problems with a graphics card
[21:37] <andythenoob> hi gc, lsusb says it is 0bda:8176 Realtek Semiconductor Corp. RTL8188CUS 802.11n WLAN . even when disconnected the device seems to be there, and will not conenct. reboot and all is ok
[21:38] <andythenoob> is the gdm an older dm than lightdm by the way?
[21:38] <mongy> yes
[21:38] <GridCube> not exactly, canonical doesnt use it anymore, they use lightdm now
[21:38] <matthew> i cannot get the screen reso higher than 640X480 and its looks really weird
[21:39] <GridCube> so its behind in that aspect but it keeps getting updates and stuff, just not from canonical
[21:42] <matthew> well then i guess ill jsut go back to win
[21:42] <GridCube> andythenoob, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/795770
[21:42] <GridCube> matthew, did you installed the privative drivers?
[21:43] <GridCube> matthew, press alt-f2 and write: gksu jockey-gtk
[21:43] <GridCube> it will ask your password and then search for your drivers
[21:43] <matthew> there are none im stuck with a internal intel 8xx
[21:44] <GridCube> :(
[21:45] <GridCube> matthew, if you write > xrandr      on a terminal does it lists more screen resolutions?
[21:46] <matthew> Screen 0: minimum 320 x 200, current 640 x 480, maximum 2048 x 2048
[21:46] <matthew> VGA1 unknown connection (normal left inverted right x axis y axis)
[21:46] <matthew>    1360x768       59.8
[21:46] <matthew>    1152x864       60.0
[21:46] <matthew>    1024x768       60.0
[21:46] <matthew>    800x600        60.3
[21:46] <matthew>    640x480        59.9
[21:46] <matthew> LVDS1 connected 640x480+0+0 (normal left inverted right x axis y axis) 0mm x 0mm
[21:46] <matthew>    640x480        60.0*+   59.9
[21:46] <GridCube> !pastebin | matthew
[21:46] <GridCube> in any case matthew you do have more resolutions to try
[21:46] <matthew> when i go to display in settings it lists only 640X480
[21:47] <GridCube> do >xrandr -s 1360x768
[21:47] <GridCube> matthew,  you can install arandr, its an xrandr gui, it should let you change stuff like this
[21:48] <andythenoob> hi gc looks like this seems to be fixed in kernel v3, im on 3.0.0-12-generic
[21:48] <GridCube> yep, read the last comment, abou getting the proper drivers from realtek
[21:49] <GridCube> also andythenoob when refering to someone you can type the first letters of their nicks and press tab to autocomplete so they know you are speaking to them
[21:49] <matthew> not available for the lvds1 display it is a laptop
[21:49] <GridCube> ooooh, the lvds1
[21:50] <GridCube> i dont know about that matthew, you will need to wait for someone with more experience to help you, sorry :(
[21:50] <GridCube> matthew, care to pastebin the output of lspci ?
[21:51] <mongy> matthew: tried grandr?
[21:51] <andythenoob> GridCube, thanks..told u I'm a noob. i have a cd with the drivers and will try it
[21:51] <mongy> I have heard it works when the rest don't
[21:51] <GridCube> andythenoob, read that last comment, i think it will help you greatly
[21:51] <GridCube> actually its comment 13 :P
[22:09] <CXIV> I got some laggy menu scrolling on XFCE 4.8
[22:10] <CXIV> The selection is always little later than mouse pointer.
[22:15] <mongy> CXIV: compositing maybe?
[22:15] <CXIV> mongy What do you mean?
[22:16] <mongy> CXIV: settings manager, window manager tweaks
[22:16] <CXIV> I removed compiz and turned off effects
[22:16] <mongy> only thing I can suggest really.
[22:36] <metsys23> hy there
[22:59] <sp4z> hi, is there a way to stop arp-replies but keep arp-requests from you nic?
[23:03] <mongy> must be some iptables rule
[23:04] <sp4z> mmmmm blocking all traffic in and out didn't appear to stop it. the only way i have found is to do ifconfig eht0 -arp but that disables it entirely
[23:06] <Hugh> Hello?
[23:07] <Hugh> Anybody home?
[23:08] <sp4z> hi
[23:21] <xubuntu026> hola
[23:21] <xubuntu026> hola
[23:21] <xubuntu026> buenas tardes
[23:21] <xubuntu026> a todos
[23:35] <xubuntu026> acabo de instalar
[23:35] <xubuntu026> xubuntub en mi pc
[23:35] <xubuntu026> tengo una pregunta
[23:35] <xubuntu026> no necesita antivirus???
[23:39] <GridCube> xubuntu026, no, n
[23:40] <GridCube> n_n ningun sistema operativo basado en linux necesita antivirus
[23:40] <xubuntu026> pero es una que tiene
[23:40] <xubuntu026> 3 sistemas operativos
[23:40] <GridCube> xubuntu026, por favor podemos llevar esto a #ubuntu-es
[23:41] <GridCube> porque este canal en ingles
[23:41] <GridCube> :=
[23:41] <GridCube> :)
[23:41] <xubuntu026> oj