[00:02] <pangolin> kick me you fools
[00:03] <stlsaint> ;up
[00:05] <pangolin> haha
[00:06] <pangolin> thank you
[00:06] <stlsaint> np
[00:49] <vandal-> whats the best browser for pc with Pentium IV 1,7 GHz and 512 MB RAM wiht lubuntu? chrome or firefox  hang up for several seconds rather often
[00:50] <Viman> vandal: try seamonkey
[00:52] <Unit193> Seamonkey??
[00:53] <Viman> yes, seamonkey. Unless you wanna go skinny, then Midori/Dillo
[00:53] <stlsaint> or even iceweasel
[00:53] <vandal-> testing seamonkey :)
[00:54] <Unit193> Arora isn't bad, but not really worked on.
[00:54] <Unit193> stlsaint: That's firefox. :P
[00:54] <stlsaint> Unit193: yes but its also less resource hoggish from ff
[00:57] <Unit193> Hmmm.... All that's changed should be the branding, unless you're using Debian Testing.
[00:57] <Viman> and I thought Arora was Firefox's Alpha Channel?
[00:58] <Unit193> There's firefox beta, Aurora, and minefield.
[00:59] <Viman> touche
[01:00] <Viman> vandal-: what you think about Seamonkey?
[01:01] <Unit193> It's a suite, it's heavy. :P
[01:03] <vandal-> all i can say after 5 min is that it works way better than chrome/ff. i'll try other browsers too.
[01:03] <Unit193> Arora isn't being worked on right now, but it's not too bad.
[01:06] <vandal-> i love midoris extremely simple interface
[01:07] <vandal-> but it displays pretty weird fonts - some wide, others thin
[01:12] <vandal-> i'll stay with midori for a while, thanks for help :)
[01:35] <guessst> is this channel right for questions about lubuntu 12.04?
[01:36] <Unit193> Support? No, that'd be #ubuntu+1
[01:37] <guessst> Unit193: ok, thank you
[02:04] <stlsaint> Unit193: hrm, would #ubuntu+1 really be the best place for support of a os that uses a different environment
[02:05] <Unit193> stlsaint: Yes, Kubuntu and Xubuntu also feed pangolin into there.
[02:10] <stlsaint> strange. Doesnt make much sense. I want to know about kubuntu so i go to a ubuntu chat??
[02:12] <Unit193> No, that's the dev version.
[02:12] <hometow1> i have a old computer,512RAM,celeon 2.1G,can it run lubuntu?
[02:13] <Unit193> Should be, just don't expect a brand new computer speed.
[02:17] <hometow1> yesterday,i just install ubuntu11.10,too slowly,haha.
[02:18] <hometow1> sorry for my broken english.
[02:20] <Unit193> Is there a language you know better? They may have a local help channel.
[05:14] <hometow1_> I just installed ubuntu11.10,but it looks slowly.Can i change unity to xfce? how? thx.
[05:15] <holstein> hometow1_: this is for lubuntu... LXDE + ubuntu... you can install XFCE though however you manage packages
[05:16] <holstein> you can install LXDE... you could go with xubuntu-desktop or lubuntu-desktop... its up to you :)
[05:18] <hometow1_> Is lubuntu use LXDE to control the windows? sorry,i think i want to say change to LXDE...
[05:19] <holstein> hometow1_: yup
[05:19] <holstein> sudo apt-get install lubuntu or lubuntu-desktop
[05:19] <holstein> or just search for LXDE and/or lubuntu where ever you manage packages :)
[05:20] <hometow1_> thank you.
[05:20] <hometow1_> i will try.
[10:33] <sacarde> hi
[10:34] <sacarde> is possible to install firefox10 on lubuntu10.04 ?
[11:02] <sacarde> is possible to install firefox10 on lubuntu10.04 ?
[11:21] <CXIV> Lubuntu 11.10 is great!
[11:28] <head_victim> sacarde: yes it's possible it's just a matter of how easy it is
[11:29] <head_victim> CXIV: we like it :)
[11:31] <CXIV> Earlier versions was quite unpolished
[11:31] <CXIV> Were :D
[11:32] <Myrtti> sacarde: as far as I know, 10.04 has firefox 10
[11:32] <head_victim> Myrtti: mine is on 9.0.1
[11:33] <Myrtti> !info firefox lucid
[11:33] <Myrtti> *shrug*
[11:33] <head_victim> I must fail
[11:33]  * head_victim apt-gets an update
[11:34] <CXIV> Firefox lags with 512 ram.
[11:34] <Myrtti> with the caveat that I don't have a lucid system with me here :-|
[11:34] <Myrtti> I can't check myself
[11:34] <head_victim> My main machine tracks LTS's, my VM tracks +1
[11:35] <head_victim> Hm I did have the old firefox-stable ppa that i just disabled and still no 10
[11:35]  * head_victim digs some mroe
[11:42] <head_victim> sacarde: if you have problems getting firefox 10 then I'd suggest using the ppa available here - https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-mozilla-security/+archive/ppa
[11:42] <head_victim> That gave me 10
[11:43] <head_victim> Despite it meant to be defautl
[12:06] <CXIV> http://www.spreadshirt.nl/t-shirt-zelf-ontwerpen-C59/product/102701494/view/1
[12:07] <Myrtti> that's a bit offtopic for the channel and I'd rather not see that kind of language in the channel either...
[12:09] <CXIV> Myritti Sorry.
[13:11] <pmatulis> is there a way to link a keystroke to popping up the calendar (residing in the panel)?
[13:13] <MrChrisDruif> pmatulis; I think it should be possible
[13:17] <MrChrisDruif> pmatulis; https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Lubuntu/Documentation/FAQ/Guides#I_want_to_bind_a_key_to_lock_my_screen.2C_how_do_I_do_it.3F
[13:17] <MrChrisDruif> It tells you how to bind a key to lock the screen, but you could convert it to your request
[13:18] <pmatulis> MrChrisDruif: i don't think there is a command to pop up the calender (actually called the 'clock' afaik)
[13:18] <MrChrisDruif> pmatulis; why do you think that?
[13:18] <pmatulis> MrChrisDruif: b/c it's already running
[13:19] <MrChrisDruif> When you click it a certain command is cast to the program to pop it up
[13:20] <MrChrisDruif> If you can find that command, you can bind a key to perform the same
[13:21] <MrChrisDruif> So the main problem would be to find the command necessary to pop up the calendar
[17:20] <ace-compaq-nx902> how do I make my pidgin work?
[17:21] <smile4ever> how do you mean? :)
[17:22] <smile4ever> ace-compaq-nx902: you could try to join #pidgin
[17:23] <ace-compaq-nx902> i am new to lubuntu. i am connected to this site though chromium, can't unerstand how to do it though pidgin
[17:25] <kanliot> try xchat-gnome
[17:27] <ace-compaq-nx902> what's xchat-gnome. i'm new to ubuntu an linux too)
[17:27] <kanliot> it's an irc client for chatting in irc channels
[17:27] <kanliot> use synaptic package manager to install it
[17:28] <ace-compaq-nx902> is it like pidgin? do you use xchat-gnome instead?
[17:28] <pcroque> ace-compaq-nx902: I would also recommend xchat (great program), but if you want to use pidgin for IRC, here's a tutorial: http://eclug.homelinux.org/content/view/192/59/
[17:30] <ace-compaq-nx902> thanks for the link. I'll give a try to both of these
[17:54] <freeroute> is it just me or are the speeds of rsyncing an .iso file from one external USB HDD to another just only 12MB/s ?
[17:55] <freeroute> both are 2.5" 5400RPM drives btw
[17:55] <freeroute> also, SATA
[18:22] <vandal-> hey, i am using curently lubuntu on old pc (Pentium IV 1,7GHz, 512 MB RAM). i like lubuntu but it sometimes crashes and i would like to try some other distributions. what would you recommend for such weak pc? i've heard something about puppy, pappermint, damn small linux and some other distributions but i am not sure which choice would be best and whats the difference between them. Can you help me choose one?
[18:28] <pcroque> vandal-: I've tried both puppy and DSL. They were nice and light, but both had package management systems I couldn't get used to. Maybe they've changed though in the last 2 years.
[18:47] <Sentynel> I dunno if they've fixed it - I can't find any indication thereof on google - but last time I looked at Puppy it insisted on running everything as root, which seems to me an utterly baffling design decision and completely put me off the whole distro
[18:48] <Sentynel> dsl is nice, though
[19:30] <freeroute> pcroque & vandal-: you might want to check lupu, it's basically puppy linux with access to the whole Ubuntu repo - http://distro.ibiblio.org/puppylinux/puppy-5.2.8/release-Lucid-528.htm
[19:31] <vandal-> freeroute, just downloaded lupu 5 min ago :)
[19:33] <freeroute> vandal-: awesome timing then :p
[19:55] <freeroute> http://ubuntu-answers.blogspot.com/2011/11/rootunroot-android-under-ubuntu-with.html - this site gets chromium-browser worked up to 100% CPU usage and then crashes. Can some one confirm?
[19:57] <holstein> freeroute: anything trigger it? im looking at it in chrome
[20:13] <pcroque> freeroute: seems to work fine on my system in chromium 16.0.912.77 (Developer Build 118311 Linux) Ubuntu 11.10. No crashes or heavy cpu use.
[20:14] <pcroque> Running Lubuntu 11.10 and updating chromium from the repos.
[20:29] <anarchomarx> i search for composite-manager in lubuntu (lxde-openbox), any ideas?
[20:30] <Unit193> We don't ship one by default as they aren't lightweight at all, but xcompmgr is one.
[20:30] <anarchomarx> ok, thx
[20:34] <Viman> you can activate some lightweight effects by running `xcompmgr -cf`
[20:35] <Viman> although that makes my windows dark for some reason in my box
[20:38] <pcroque> anarchomarx: there's also cairo-compmgr (http://cairo-compmgr.tuxfamily.org/). Worked OK on my system, but I decided I didn't need it.
[20:40] <anarchomarx> pcroque: i need it for ardesia at work :/
[20:41] <Viman> a compositing manager? for work?
[20:41] <Viman> deffly get xcompmgr
[21:12] <Unit193> Finally looked it up, and there were a few requests for xcompmgr, here's one with some config http://pastebin.com/xM0jjH9D
[21:25] <chorgox_> googd night everyone
[21:25] <pAt_> good night chorgox_
[21:25] <chorgox_> I been using lubuntu in my netbook running 11.04 but now i reinstaled 10.04 is it possible run lubuntu in that one?
[21:28] <Unit193> chorgox_: Specs?
[21:29] <chorgox_> is a "normal" netbook samsung n130 atom 270 1.6 mhz 1GB ram
[21:30] <Unit193> I've run 11.10 on worse, so I wouldn't see why not.
[21:31] <chorgox_> i do have a old pIII 1ghz 512ram in the kitchen "running" if you can say that lol but is about wich version of lubuntu would perform better?
[21:32] <chorgox_> I mean in winlol you know that xp would perform better than vista or w7 but in ubuntu i m not sure yet
[21:33] <Unit193> Well, Lubuntu doesn't have LTS's in the normal sense, LXDE doesn't get backported as it has a very low amount of devs.
[21:33]  * Unit193 Celeron 500MHz, 512M ram
[21:35] <anarchomarx> Unit193: special thx. xcompmgr works fine and i can activate this, when i need it.
[21:35] <Unit193> [16:12:32] < Unit193> Finally looked it up, and there were a few requests for xcompmgr, here's one with some config  http://pastebin.com/xM0jjH9D
[21:35] <pAt__> I run lubuntu on a dual core 2.8 Ghz with 4gb ram :D
[21:35] <Unit193> anarchomarx: Glad it helped.
[21:36] <Unit193> pAt__: Shhh, you're mean. ;)
[21:37] <pAt__> Its not only for old hardware :)
[21:39] <chorgox_> i kind of like unity in my dual-core but in my netbook is a bit overkill me thinks
[21:40] <pAt__> My netbook runs with lmde with xfce like hell :)
[21:41] <chorgox_> sorry for being a noob but what is lmde ?
[21:42] <Unit193> It's "Linux Mint Debian Edition", not quite a support issue here.
[21:42] <pAt__> No prob chorgox. Lmde is linux mint debian edition
[21:43] <pAt__> Yes you are right unit193. Forgot we are in a support channel.
[21:44] <chorgox_> never tried mint, even though lot's of people recomend it.
[21:44] <chorgox_>  what I like of netbook remix is that with a crappy touchpad big icons make sense, but at the same time the performance of xfce is great
[21:44] <Flazer> i looked at it, as well as fedora briefly, but lubuntu fit my tastes better
[21:45] <phillw> wxl: ping.
[21:46] <pAt__> Lubuntu also runs well on a netbook
[21:47] <chorgox_> never mint if is ubuntu / puppy  or fedora. linux was the best thingh that happen in my netbook
[21:47] <chorgox_> just sometimes wifi work "funny" and i need to restart my computer until it works
[21:48] <chorgox_> shame sometimes does that when im showing off "linux" to my friends :S
[21:48] <pAt__> :)
[21:49] <chorgox_> I guess one day i would understand how linux loads drivers and stuff and i will solve
[21:50] <chorgox_> or get a acer primus lol
[21:50] <Flazer> yeah i'm using my netbook now
[21:50] <chorgox_> or ehatever is called the one w/keyboard
[21:50] <Flazer> lubuntu worked the best on it
[21:51] <Flazer> better than xubuntu
[21:51] <pAt__> I am on my android right now :D
[21:52] <chorgox_> I agree with flazer xubuntu did not make any difference
[21:52] <Flazer> yeah, it was too clunky, just like vanilla ubuntu or kubuntu
[21:52] <Flazer> the gui was too heavy i guess
[21:52] <Flazer> at least for my particluar machine
[21:52] <chorgox_> pAt__  are you running lubuntu in your G1?
[21:52] <pAt__> G1?
[21:52] <chorgox_> android g1 that relic
[21:54] <pAt__> Nah. I am running android on my samsung smartphone. There i am using an irc client now
[21:55] <Flazer> i wonder if anyone has put Lubuntu on a cr-48
[21:57] <Unit193> Might want to wander over to #lubuntu-offtopic though.
[21:59] <Flazer> yeah, just realized we've drifted
[21:59] <chorgox_> does lubuntu would have an impact on battery life comapred with vainilla ubuntu ?
[22:00] <Flazer> not sure, as my experience with portables has been limited to just lubuntu
[22:01] <Flazer> but i would expect, since it's geared to use less resources, it should have slightly better battery life than vanilla ubuntu
[22:03] <chorgox_> when i running xp (hardly ever) on my netbook there is like different "modes" that would give me more battery there is any aplication or somenthing simillar in lubuntu ?
[22:04] <Unit193> Well, you should be able to dim the screen and the lower usage of LXDE when you compare to Unity should save on the battery a little.
[22:07] <Flazer> when i right click on the power information in the system tray in lubuntu, i can change power "modes" also
[22:07] <chorgox_> there is a way to tell the procesor to slow down or i don't know stop some services to save some clock cycles?
 when i right click on the power information in the system tray in lubuntu, i can change power "modes" also [ HOW?]
[22:09] <Flazer> in your system tray, do you have the battery icon? I'm assuming you're on a notebook of some kind?
[22:09] <chorgox_> yep
[22:09] <Flazer> if you right click on the icon...what are your options?
[22:09] <chorgox_> let me turn that on
[22:10] <Flazer> were you getting that strange bug when waking from sleep with the taksbars? which was related to the battery icon?
[22:10] <chorgox_> well im running netbook 10.04 (not lubuntu yet) does make a difference ?
[22:11] <Flazer> possibly
[22:11] <Flazer> i'm on 11.10
[22:11] <Flazer> you're running vanilla?
[22:13] <chorgox_> yeah kind of is the netbook remix but is vainilla ubuntu i guess
[22:13] <chorgox_> im going to try to add lubuntu
[22:14] <Flazer> yeah, i'm looking but don't see the same kind of preferences for that version
[22:14] <Flazer> i can only speak to 11.10 lubuntu, since i'm currently running that
[22:14] <Flazer> i would probably suggest doing a clean install if you can, rather than "adding" lubuntu to your current distro, unless you're going to make a separate boot partition
[22:15] <Flazer> just make the live usb, and choose "replace ubuntu" when you have the option
[22:15] <Flazer> less chance for bugs I think
[22:15] <chorgox_> ^-- why ???
[22:17] <Flazer> for a cleaner install, you can try to just "upgrade" or add lubuntu
[22:17] <Flazer> but if you run into problems, it may just be a corrupt installation, you can always go back and do the step i suggested anyway
[22:18] <Flazer> matter of preference more than anything really
[22:18] <Flazer> others may have different advice
[22:18] <chorgox_> well im a noob and i like to do my own t5hingh until i get in problems and i run to forums asking for help
[22:20] <Flazer> lol
[22:20] <Flazer> that's the great part about this place
[22:20] <chorgox_> installing now, so get ready lol
[22:22] <chorgox_> default display manager (gdm) (lxdm)
[22:22] <chorgox_> i guess is lxdm the best one
[22:34] <chorgox_> yeahh is working
[22:34] <Flazer> sweet
[22:38] <chorgox_> ok now atm i don't have any "battery indicator"  i guess I need to add the thinghy "applets" or somenthing like that ?
[22:49] <awkisopen> Hello friends! I'm trying to install Lubuntu on my netbook, but the font size is so ENORMOUS that I can't see the buttons at the bottom of the second dialogue!
[22:49] <awkisopen> The netbook's resolution is 1280x768 or something to that effect, so believe me when I say the fonts are huuuuuuge.
[22:50] <awkisopen> same thing when I try to run it off the LiveCD, but the funny thing is, when I go to Preferences -> Configure OpenBox, it tells me the font is 11px! 11px? it looks at least 30!
[23:00] <chorgox_> well i guess somenthing need to get "weird" if you don't get a "fresh instalation" lol , how i can tell lubuntu that i want "lubuntu" as my default desktop etc etc..
[23:05] <awkisopen> you mean you want it to be the default setting in your boot manager?
[23:06] <chorgox_> thnx awkisopen i found it .. !!!
[23:09] <chorgox_> wow i have the weidest thingh happening  right now my menu bar is changing colours like "blinking" lol
[23:11] <chorgox_> is like if someone would click to focus in the windows and click outside of the windows . like 100 times per second.
[23:13] <awkisopen> apparently most people have the opposite problem I'm having - the fonts are too small
[23:30] <awkisopen> I attempted the xrandr DPI solution I found in some of the forums, but running the command failed
[23:30] <awkisopen> why does Ubuntu get my font sizes right, but Lubuntu does not?