pangolinkick me you fools00:02
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guessstI'm trying to set autologin in lubuntu 12.04 editing /etc/lxdm/lxdm.conf ---> autologin=myusername but it doesn't have effect... is this a bug?01:38
urfr332g0guessst, you can do that from user01:38
guesssturfr332g0: can you show me how?01:39
urfr332g0guessst, I'm not in lubuntu to not really, look in the menu I would think.01:39
* kklimonda is surprised lightdm, or at least unity-greeter, is not being configured by gsettings01:40
guessstok... I'll try it01:40
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ritzhmm, selinux implementation on ubuntu (precise ) aint too great. Do we have an equivalent of setroubleshoot/sealert ( http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Docs/Drafts/SELinux/SETroubleShoot/UserFAQ ) ?03:50
kklimondaritz: not really, we've opted for AppArmor04:00
ritzkklimonda, hmm, thanks. do we have a document on why so ?04:01
ritzI believe, SELinux is a far superior implementation04:01
kklimondaritz: it's also much harder to implement and maintain properly04:02
kklimondaI don't really remember a discussion about it in context of Ubuntu though04:03
micahgritz: have you checked out apparmor yet?04:06
kklimondamicahg: this page is frustratingly short given the complexity of selinux itself ;)04:08
micahgwell, our main focus is on apparmor04:09
ritz_micahg, do we plan to change this to selinux anytime soon ?04:11
ritz_to target customers with high security requirements ?04:11
kklimondaritz_: what does AppArmor lack for your usecase?04:11
micahgsome of the security team works on apparmor04:11
ritz_hmm, will this akin to additional paid service ?04:11
micahgif there's something you think is missing in apparmor, I suggest talking to the security team04:12
ritz_micahg,  kklimonda  thanks04:12
kklimondathere is actually so little good documentation about differences between SELinux and AppArmor, and how do they apply to the real world. I'd love to read something good about AppArmor limitations (something more than path-based security is flawed and can never work)04:19
ritz_kklimonda, I have shot an email regarding this04:57
ritz_kklimonda, think netlabels , Xace04:57
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alkisgHow can I have mandatory settings with gsettings?07:03
alkisgI'm reading http://live.gnome.org/dconf/SystemAdministrators but it mentions a lot of system paths that don't exist in precise...07:03
alkisgE.g. "dconf stores its profiles in text files in "/etc/dconf/profile/""07:04
alkisg"The remaining lines of the profile describe system databases.  These databases are found in /etc/dconf/db/." ==> not found either07:10
alkisgAlso: $ dconf update07:12
alkisgfatal: Error opening directory '/etc/dconf/db': No such file or directory07:12
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denis_so, is it currently impossible to get epiphany installed in precise?07:54
denis_I get circular dependencyissues when trying to install the "gnome" metapackage :07:54
denis_ gnome : Depends: epiphany-extensions (>= 3.0) but it is not going to be installed07:55
denis_ epiphany-extensions : Depends: epiphany-browser (< 3.3) but 3.3.5-0ubuntu1 is to be installed07:55
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micahgepiphany-extensions needs an upgrade08:09
Fai1uremicahg: ok, so it's a known missing updated package then08:14
micahgFai1ure: can you file a bug and I"ll milestone for precise?08:14
Fai1uremicahg: ok can do08:14
micahghmm, checking to see if a rebuild will help08:15
micahgah, no, ok08:17
Fai1uremicahg: 93129608:24
Fai1ureI'm a bit new to launchpad bugs, please excuse me if I did anything wrong08:25
micahgbug 93129608:25
ubottuLaunchpad bug 931296 in epiphany-extensions (Ubuntu) "epiphany-extensions needs updating for epiphany 3.3" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/93129608:25
micahgFai1ure: looks great, thanks08:25
Fai1ureok, thanks for your assistance :)08:26
CT1astraljava: Thankyou.10:00
Fai1ureso, possibly after the nss-change last week I am having trouble with getting Unity to work, it only sort of works with Unity 2D, but even then the launcher is nowhere to be found10:42
Fai1ureit all worked swimmingly earlier last week10:43
Fai1urecan anyone point me to logs I can check to troubleshoot it?10:43
qw-Russianhelp me please11:06
qw-Russiani am install kubuntu 10.04 LTS after installation i am upgrade my system from 12.04 but after upgrade system is not started maybe started but i am not see write me system in the monitor11:06
Lekensteyn12.04 is not stable yet, stick to 10.04 or 11.10 for now if you are using it on a production machine11:07
qw-Russianand that to do me?11:08
Fai1ureqw-Russian: install kubuntu 10.04 again, and don't upgrade to 12.04 :)11:09
qw-Russianand is it possible how  without a refixturing ?11:10
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qwm-Russiani am joinid12:27
guesssthi, I tried to set autologin in lubuntu 12.04 but without success... could anybody help me to do it?12:40
guessstok, I found that for autologin, the correct file to edit is /etc/lightdm/lightdm.con and not /etc/lxdm/lxdm.conf12:52
MrChrisDruifAloha everyone13:05
MrChrisDruifJust a small question; the background of LightDM should automatically change to the one the user is using in Pangolin?13:13
carrionHow broken is the alpha ?13:14
MrChrisDruifI don't know carrion, why do you ask?13:14
carrionWas thinking of using it13:15
carrionJust curious how broken it was13:15
MrChrisDruifOw, I'm running Pangolin for weeks without much real breakage13:15
carrionUsually updating Ubuntu is enough to break it13:15
MrChrisDruifI sometimes get the notification that an app didn't boot properly or something but one of the buttons of said message lets me restart it if necessary13:16
carrionAre they still using unity ?13:16
robin0800carrion, yes but now you can use gnome classic or gnome shell13:17
MrChrisDruifOw, I forgot to mention: I'm running GNOME Shell13:17
carrionThank god13:18
carrionUnity is like the plague.13:18
arandHardly, it's the most uncontagious thing ever ;)13:20
carrionHardly ? It's disgusting.13:21
MrChrisDruifAnyhow, seeing carrion isn't having an issue with pangolin because it isn't running it, could we get back to mine? Pretty please? ^_^13:22
carrionAnd what is your problem?13:23
MrChrisDruifMy issue is with LightDM and it's background13:26
MrChrisDruifI heard that LightDM would use the users background in pangolin13:26
ryeMrChrisDruif, yes, it does that for me, what happens on your machine?13:40
MrChrisDruifWhen updating from oneiric...it doesn't13:42
carrionubuntu breaking on update ... never.13:43
MrChrisDruifYes, it's amazing. I did an upgrade from oneiric...I'm still surprised. But anyhow, it's not changing automatically13:43
MrChrisDruifcarrion; I'm not saying Ubuntu (or any other Linux for that matter) can't break from updating/upgrading. I'm just noticing an anomaly in this upgrade.13:44
carrionubuntu usually breaks stuff on update13:45
carrionit's known for it13:45
MrChrisDruifcarrion; nobody is forcing you to use Ubuntu. If you don't like it, then switch to another distribution. No need to moan here13:45
carrionThen don't reply to me, tard13:46
MrChrisDruifrye; you got my anomaly?13:47
MrChrisDruifOr is that expected behaviour with an upgrade?13:47
Tm_Tcarrion: please show respect toward other users13:51
carrionsuck my balls13:51
Tm_T"just no" is "just now"? /:13:52
carrionlol wat fag13:52
carrionYou suckin dick bro ?13:53
Tm_Tcarrion: we have certain rules in our channels, and we expect people to follow them: one is respect13:53
carrionshut up faggot13:53
jokerdinoplease initiate the proceedings.13:53
jokerdinoah, darn.13:53
Lekensteynwhat a joke.13:53
ryeMrChrisDruif, are you using an encrypted folder?13:54
MrChrisDruifNo real need for that, as I'm the single user on this machine13:54
MrChrisDruifAnd if people really want to hack me, then some encryption won't be much of a challenge anyone (I've got nothing to hide)13:55
MrChrisDruifBut is it expected behaviour when upgrading from oneiric?13:55
ryeMrChrisDruif, and you are using gnome-shell, right? Let me check this13:55
MrChrisDruifYes, but using GS instead of Unity should not alter LightDM...right?13:56
qw-Russianhelp me please13:57
qw-Russiani would like install Delphi from my Spark (Linux)13:57
MrChrisDruifWhat's the issue qw-Russian ?13:57
ryeMrChrisDruif, flashplayer installation13:58
MrChrisDruifrye; sorry? Is the flashplayer the issue?13:58
qw-Russianrye, prikin i am install flash auto13:58
ryeMrChrisDruif, no, qw-Russian tries to, chatting with him in private13:59
alkisgIf someone speaks to me in IRC, the pidgin panel icon flashes. But in gnome-shell I don't see it, as the icon is hidden. Any way around that problem?14:00
MrChrisDruifalkisg; don't you get notify-osd messages in the bottom of the screen?14:01
MrChrisDruif(an other option would be to install a more proper IRC client like xchat, but that is up to you)14:02
alkisgMrChrisDruif: if I'm looking at the screen at that time, yes, but if I'm away from my computer for 1 minute, I don't see any notifications (i.e. the flashing icon)14:02
alkisgI think empathy shows a blue icon instead, but wouldn't that be hidden too?14:02
qw-Russianwere main channel from speak other people from other country14:02
MrChrisDruifYou could move your mouse to the bottom right corner to view any missed messages?14:02
MrChrisDruifqw-Russian; your looking for the Russian loco support channel?14:03
qw-Russianother county14:03
ryeMrChrisDruif, installing gnome shell to see whether background drawing key is the same, lightdm peeks into user settings, so it should be able to14:03
alkisgMrChrisDruif: that's missing the whole point of the panel icons though, which is to display program status without user action... I could just switch to pidgin instead...14:03
alkisg(and see the blue color in the tab were someone has talked to me)14:04
alkisgI guess what I'm asking for, is for a way to move some program icons from down+right to the up+right panel which is always visible14:06
qw-RussianWere Help me from MS Oficce?14:07
MrChrisDruifalkisg; maybe #8 is what you are looking for? http://www.noobslab.com/2011/11/things-to-do-after-installing-linux.html14:09
alkisgMrChrisDruif: thanks, that looks like it should fix it for at least pidgin... I don't care much for the other icons, so it should be ok.14:11
MrChrisDruifUse that ppa at your own risk of course alkisg ^_^14:11
alkisgYup thanks again14:11
gnomefreakwhat PPA?14:13
qw-Russian i am install Spark by Linux but i have DB from Access Were me Download and install access from Spark ?14:13
MrChrisDruifgnomefreak; the one in the link I showed alkisg14:13
gnomefreakMrChrisDruif: thanks looking now14:14
MrChrisDruifIt *should* be okay as it's the webupd8team ppa gnomefreak14:14
gnomefreaksojmehting bothers me about that whole article14:16
ryeMrChrisDruif, so, gnome and unity are using the same keys for wallpaper14:16
MrChrisDruifAlright, that is positive I guess14:17
gnomefreakthe PPA contains the word "gnome3" but keeps mentioning "gnome-shell" gnome-shell is not the same as gnome314:17
MrChrisDruifSo it is a setting in LightDM that doesn't get properly installed with an upgrade cycle?14:17
ryeMrChrisDruif, could you please try looking into /var/log/lightdm/ logs to see whether there are some errors?14:19
MrChrisDruifSure rye14:20
MrChrisDruifThe lightdm.log?14:20
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ryeMrChrisDruif, x-0-greeter.log14:21
MrChrisDruifrye; shall I pastebin it for you so you can check it? I don't know what to look for14:23
ryeMrChrisDruif, yep, try, i am not an expert though14:23
MrChrisDruifYou should have the link rye14:25
gnomefreakanyone have an account for marlboro.com. i would love to have someone test it see if it opens but you have  to sign in first. the login screen is normal once i log in i get a black screen14:32
gnomefreakit loads as if it has no content at all. but would love another to test14:32
gnomefreakbrb smoke14:33
qw-Russianhelp me14:38
qw-Russiani am install lazarys from Spark14:38
qw-Russianbut i am not search14:38
valdur55qw-Russian, join in #ubuntu chat.14:38
valdur55yoin to14:39
MrChrisDruifrye; back14:45
MrChrisDruifrye; You wanted me to just log out or reboot?14:45
ryeMrChrisDruif, log out only14:47
MrChrisDruifAlright, then it didn't work14:47
ryeMrChrisDruif, after you change the wallpaper14:47
ryeMrChrisDruif, what is current background gsettings value?14:48
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zzecoolit seems that doing an update leaves you without Compiz    cause of missing "libcompizconfig0"  not yet updated18:12
zzecoolim using the main archive18:12
zzecooldid anyone else has this problem is any other archive up to date ?18:12
zzecoolActually it looks like there is an epic upload of packages right now18:24
zzecoolin every update something new pops up18:24
jtaylorfeature freeze on thursday :)18:24
zzecooli think it is wise to wait   , after all it is Debian freeze18:25
zzecooljtaylor: exactly i just noticed18:25
zzecoolI saw new unity  plugin package18:25
zzecooli hope they didnt remove Dodge on active window on this....18:26
qw-Russianhelp me please people19:34
qw-Russiani am install Lazarus but that there activation not all functions and possibilities19:34
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trismqw-Russian: did you install it from the ubuntu software center? try: sudo apt-get install lazarus; you may have only installed lazarus-ide by mistake (the names in software center can be confusing)20:13
qw-Russianyes install20:14
qw-Russianokey thank you20:16
qw-Russiani am going sleeping20:17
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jo-erlendInteresting. I don't have the software center anymore. Is it just me, or has it gone on vacation or something?22:17
Daekdroomjo-erlend, it's possible you unknowingly let it be removed by updates that broke dependencies.22:21
DaekdroomI still have it installed22:21
jo-erlendquite likely. It's being synced I'm told.22:21
DaekdroomCheck if the software-center and ubuntu-desktop packages are installed22:21
jrgiffordWell, here goes - updating my precise install.22:39

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