[01:06] <stampede_dude> hello
[01:07] <urfr332g0> whts up.
[01:07] <urfr332g0> whats
[01:08] <stampede_dude> not much
[01:08] <urfr332g0> cool
[01:08] <stampede_dude> trying to get this IRC client working, looks like it does.
[01:08] <urfr332g0> we see you that is for sure
[01:09] <stampede_dude> alright, thanks.
[01:14] <davkbod-ld> what does the "/n" referr to in ip-addresses?
[01:14] <stampede_dude> give an example
[01:14] <davkbod-ld> as in 192.168.0.0/16
[01:15] <davkbod-ld> port?
[01:15] <stampede_dude> that is a representation of the subnet mask i believe
[01:15] <stampede_dude> no
[01:15] <stampede_dude> hold on and i will find a site that can better explain
[01:15] <stampede_dude> if it was a port it would be 192.168.0.8:16
[01:15] <davkbod-ld> rr
[01:15] <escott> davkbod-ld, /16 means that the last two blocks of digits dont matter
[01:16] <holstein> yeah... : is for ports.. like 192.168.0.22:8080
[01:16] <davkbod-ld> so the last octet is disregarded
[01:17] <davkbod-ld> or last two octcts (da** this keyboard!)
[01:18] <stampede_dude> means it has 255.255.0.0 subnet mask does it not?
[01:19] <davkbod-ld> thx
[01:19] <escott> davkbod-ld, yes. if this were a filter you would only match on the first two octets
[01:20] <davkbod-ld> cul, thx...back to the other window...<grin>
[03:10] <Culiforge> Is there anyone familiar with this.. https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/plymouth/+bug/526321
[03:10] <ubot2`> Launchpad bug 526321 in plymouth "System does not booth with last plymouth. SAK needed to unlock it." [Undecided,Fix released]
[03:11] <Culiforge> I seem to be having this problem and can't boot my 10.04 install
[03:11] <Culiforge> or something similar
[03:11] <holstein> Culiforge: have you tried an earlier kernel?
[03:11] <Culiforge> holstein: how do I go about doing that.. I can't boot into the os
[03:12] <Culiforge> holstein: with either normal or rescue mode from grub
[03:16] <holstein> Culiforge: that would be in grub
[03:16] <holstein> an older kernel
[03:16] <holstein> if you dont have one, you dont have one
[03:16] <Culiforge> holstein: nope, pretty sure I dont' have one.. it's not in the grub menu
[03:17] <holstein> Culiforge: i keep a few around
[03:17] <holstein> i keep the last one that worked, and the current one that is being updated
[03:18] <Culiforge> holstein: outta luck then? I don't remember updating the kernel so it would have been whichever was most current when I installed about 2 months ago from ubuntu
[03:18] <holstein> Culiforge: its an LTS... it gets updates
[03:19] <holstein> i would boot with a live CD and scan and try and repair the disk
[03:20] <holstein> its modular, so depending on what hardware that installation is configured to use, you can take the hard drive to another machine
[03:21] <Culiforge> holstein: I can only assume the nvidia driver install messed it up somehow... I was just trying to take it one problem at a time
[03:22] <Culiforge> holstein: at least get to a recovery startup..
[03:23] <Culiforge> I've already backed up my home dir.. I may just reinstall..
[03:25] <Culiforge> holstein: everyone here was very helpful with trying to get me straightened out after my nvidia installation... but to no avail. I installed 11.04 on another partition so I could get back to work
[03:25] <philipballew> no need to reinstall
[03:25] <philipballew> untill you try to repair
[03:26] <Culiforge> philipballew: how so?
[03:27] <philipballew> i would avoid reinstalling if you have a problem untill the system is compromised so a reinstall is the only way. you can also attempt to boot with a liveusb and fix from there
[03:27] <philipballew> I wonder if chrooting into the machine from a live usb then installing a updated kernal ppa is possible
[03:28] <holstein> yeah, at least you can learn from it too
[03:28] <holstein> i mean, it cant get any more broken :)
[03:28] <Culiforge> philipballew: holstein: I'm all for it if you wanna help me out
[03:28] <Culiforge> holstein: oh yes It can
[03:28] <holstein> well, i would do what i said first
[03:29] <holstein> i would run some tests on the hard drive from a live CD.. then test the file system
[03:29] <Culiforge> holstein: live cd and repair?
[03:29] <holstein> Culiforge: yup
[03:29] <Culiforge> holstein:  I've done that several times... clean as a whistle
[03:30] <holstein> cool
[03:30] <Culiforge> holstein: posted the boot script output and everyone had a look at it
[03:31] <holstein> with just the one kernel, it can be something simple with it, and you are just locked out
[03:31] <urfr332g0> Culiforge, you still have the script?
[03:31] <Culiforge> holstein: well, the link I first posted is the error I get
[03:32] <Culiforge> urfr332g0: just ran another.. was expecting someone to ask... :)   http://paste.ubuntu.com/839967/
[03:33] <urfr332g0> Culiforge, which is the broken one by hd and partition?
[03:33] <urfr332g0> and the latest install
[03:34] <Culiforge> urfr332g0: sdb1 on the WD80
[03:34] <urfr332g0> Culiforge, the broken one?
[03:34] <Culiforge> urfr332g0: yes
[03:35] <Culiforge> urfr332g0: I hope that's what you wanted to know
[03:35] <Culiforge> urfr332g0: it's a 10.04 install
[03:35] <urfr332g0> yeah you have run a updte-grub from the latest install and have that HD as first in the bios
[03:35] <urfr332g0> update-grub*
[03:36] <Culiforge> urfr332g0: "that HD" as in the os I'm currently running or the broken one?
[03:37] <urfr332g0> Culiforge, the latest install
[03:37] <holstein> yeah, tahts a good idea. cant hurt
[03:37] <urfr332g0> you said you had a new install to get back to work.
[03:37] <Culiforge> urfr332g0: that's been done recently as well
[03:37] <holstein> thats*
[03:37] <Culiforge> urfr332g0: yes, I'm currently in 11.10
[03:38] <Culiforge> urfr332g0: 11.10 first in the grub menu
[03:39] <urfr332g0> Culiforge, is that HD first in the bios though you have 3 hd's with grub bootloaders in their mbr's
[03:40] <urfr332g0> also what happens if you chhose the broken one from the grub menu?
[03:40] <urfr332g0> choose
[03:40] <Culiforge> urfr332g0: hrmmm, I'd have to drop out and check... choose broken one... hangs with a pid error and I get a "loading , please wait" msg.
[03:41] <urfr332g0> Culiforge, personally I would make sure your booting the HD that is the 11.10, and then boot to that and run a suddo updte-gerub and see if the broken boots.
[03:42] <urfr332g0> sudo update-grub  opps sorry
[03:42] <Culiforge> urfr332g0: ok, I'll try that.. bbiab
[03:42] <urfr332g0> Culiforge, you could also try a supergrub disc and see if it gets you into the broken one.
[03:43] <Culiforge> urfr332g0: ok, I'll try that as well
[03:43] <urfr332g0> holstein, quite the conundrum for sure. :)
[03:44] <urfr332g0> I just have some basic tools in this situation.
[03:53] <Culiforge> urfr332g0: updating grub...
[03:54] <Culiforge> back out
[04:01] <Culiforge> urfr332g0: same old same old on the grub update... now I'm getting error: ata time out.. .. disk problems?
[04:02] <urfr332g0> Culiforge, could it be a broken disc?
[04:02] <urfr332g0> Culiforge, not sure beyond just checking all the regular boot stuff really
[04:02] <urfr332g0> as you did
[04:02] <Culiforge> urfr332g0: how can I be currently running 11.10 from a broken disk?...
[04:08] <urfr332g0> Culiforge, I thought you meant the broken OS choice gave you errors.
[04:10] <urfr332g0> the sdc is the 11.04 the sdb is the broken sdc would be first in the bios if tat is what you did.
[04:11] <Culiforge> urfr332g0: yes, the broken 10.04 gives some pid error to do with plymouth
[04:11] <Culiforge> sdc is first in bios
[04:12] <urfr332g0> Culiforge, beyond me have you tried a nomodeset in the sdb1 kernel?
[04:12] <Culiforge> urfr332g0: yes I have
[04:13] <urfr332g0> Culiforge, not sure beyond that the other user holstein is much more exsperienced I just saw the bootscript refrence and was interested.
[04:14] <Culiforge> urfr332g0: thanks for the assist tho
[04:14] <urfr332g0> soory if I interrupted. ;(
[04:14] <Culiforge> bbiab, gonna try supergrubdisk
[04:15] <urfr332g0> Culiforge, usually it is just for broken boots it sounds like your getting in.
[13:28] <Nu-Newbie> Hi. Can someone tell me where to learn to be as secure in Ubuntu as "possible"?
[13:30] <Nu-Newbie> Hello?
[14:37] <s-fox> Hello.
[14:44] <raju> s-fox:  heya , howz the day ?
[14:45] <s-fox> Pretty busy, what about you raju  ?
[14:45] <raju> s-fox:  not yet started but work is there (in forums )
[14:45] <raju> :P
[15:09] <duanedesign> 'lo you two
[15:09] <s-fox> o/
[15:44] <ayhan> leave
[21:15] <chorgox> good night everyone
[21:16] <chorgox> I been using ubuntu remix 10.04 on my netbook and after a while I swap to ubuntu 11.04 and now Im not sure wich one would give me better performance or better battery life? what is your opinion ?
[21:17] <chorgox> I think that ubuntu 11.04 seems a bit slower but i get better battery life?
[21:17] <Unit193> Should be using 11.10 rather than 11.04
[21:18] <chorgox> good point, but in older slower machines is not better to use older versions ?
[21:18] <Unit193> I think they worked on battery stuff, but Unity isn't as light.
[21:20] <Unit193> In that case, you can use either Xubuntu, Lubuntu, or maybe Kubuntu. Not as good to stay on releases between LTS's when there's a newer one, IMO.
[21:22] <chorgox> yeah, by the time i used 11.04 I was on Lubuntu, however I remeber 10.04 to perform better (or is just that i can't remeber)
[21:28] <Unit193> The core is the same, so it could be the core being slower.