[00:21] hey everyone [00:22] hi [00:22] yo [00:22] /33/ [00:22] /45/ [00:23] HIKE [00:23] bah [00:23] /78/ was the correct response [00:23] young-uns [00:23] * popey goes to bed [00:30] night [03:48] akgraner: Do we know who works on the Ubuntu Friendly team? [03:49] Ara I think [03:49] https://launchpad.net/~apulido [03:50] bkerensa, yes we do - [03:50] not sure of any others [03:50] hey akgraner [03:50] bkerensa, what do you need to know that's Victor's team - what's up? [03:50] cprofitt, hey [03:51] akgraner: Were considering doing some Ubuntu Friendly testing at our Global Jam in addition to Ubuntu and Debian bug fixing [03:51] ;) [03:51] so we wanted a list of stuff we will need [03:51] oh cool - it's easy [03:52] yeah... [03:52] look in the dash at system testing [03:52] k [03:52] I think you can do the testing with a CD or flashdrive boot [03:52] and that's all you need to do [03:52] :-) [03:52] if I remember the con call [03:52] yep you can [03:53] alright... I gotta get some sleep [03:53] night cprofitt [03:53] have a great night all [03:53] bkerensa, I have a slide deck somewhere about Ubuntu Friendly - as I demo'd it for a LUG meeting [03:53] I'll send it to you this week [03:54] but basically if you just go through the 'system testing' you'll know what to do - but if you have questions about it - join #ubuntu-testing or shoot me an email and I'll help you out as well [03:56] bkerensa, give me til Friday to get you the slidedeck - I have a couple things I need to do this week but bug me if I don't have it to you by Friday ( I need to send it to Victor as well :-/) [04:28] Its an akgraner! :) [04:29] nigelb, hey you! [04:29] o/ [04:29] How was LC? [04:32] awesome and busy [04:32] and I can flash SD drives and install all kinds of things on our member boards now - woot woot :-) [04:33] \o/ [04:33] so do we call you ARM geek now? [04:33] nigelb, haha [04:34] we also demo's Ubuntu TV on ARM (PandaBoard) and that was popular as well as an XBMC demo on Snowball. Was pretty cool - video will be out over the next few weeks of all our demos [04:35] *whee* [04:35] s/demo's/demo'd [04:35] akgraner: how was the performance of the TV on the pandaboard? [04:35] awesome :-) [04:36] gotta luv those boxee remotes too :-) [04:36] * mhall119 gotta get one to love [04:36] our android team had 10 demos on 5 boards [04:37] they demo's various games running on ICS [04:37] dang it - demo'd [04:37] I saw someone post an image of a quad-core A9 [04:37] yep [04:37] I'll be posting pics tonight hopefully [04:37] some nice hardware starting to come out [04:38] totally - I'm excited [04:38] I'm jealous [04:38] why? [04:38] because I don't have any :( [04:38] ahhh [04:38] I wish I had more time for hardware-hacking [04:40] mhall119: me too. [04:40] I really want to hack on ARM or arduino. [04:50] I learned how to use my Beagle enough to know I want a newer board too [04:51] cjohnston, :-) [04:51] cjohnston, nooo - I got a plan for you and that BeagleBoard :-P (just kidding) [04:52] uh oh [04:52] for some reason, i dont think your actually kidding [04:52] akgraner: if it was running ICS it would be cooler.. I think I have alot of work to get it to ICS [04:53] are you running the Ubuntu LEB on it now? [04:54] ya.. [04:54] it was ok [04:54] very slow sd card [04:55] cjohnston, gotcha - let me send you some info tomorrow - see what we can do about that [04:55] ok [04:55] I'm gonna try to work with Ash on ICS [04:56] ICS even on production devices is a bit special sometimes :\ [04:56] pleia2, you are so nice using the word "special" painful is what I would use :-) [04:57] hehe [04:57] it's actually not /that/ bad on my phone now that 4.0.3 is out [04:57] was pretty battery draining and crashy earlier [04:57] I want ICS on my phone [04:58] what do you have on it now [04:59] 2.3.4 [05:00] yeah people teased me b/c I don't have it on my phone either - but whatever, I said I have it on an SD card... [05:00] i would put it on my phone if it was in the neighborhood of easy [05:01] mine isn't due to any geek cred, I have a Nexus S that got it OTA [05:01] blah blah blah [05:04] cjohnston, have you recovered from Connect [05:04] cjohnston: home yet, or enjoying LA still? [05:04] I have a cold now - I slept for half the day today... [05:04] akgraner: im in cali still [05:05] pleia2, ^^ [05:05] :) [05:05] ill be home at 410est tomorrow [05:06] I wanted to stay for ELC and ABS but sadly I didn't get to this year [05:06] Pete accused me of being an event junkie :-/ and in need of intervention [05:07] I had to get over events really quick living out here, there is so much all the time [05:07] end up with event hangover :) [05:07] it stops being fun [05:09] I can see how that happens [05:16] pleia2: event hangovers - I go through that every month :( [05:16] Perils of working as a conference organizers. === head_v is now known as head_victim [07:46] good morning === amithkk is now known as nicknametaken === nicknametaken is now known as amithkk [08:17] aloha [08:26] heh [08:26] akgraner: You have to go to OSCON sometime... Its the Grammy's of FOSS [08:26] :) [11:03] planned maintenance [12:54] thanks dholbach [12:54] :) [13:54] hey mhall119 [13:55] don't we want the Loco IRC to point to #locoteams? [13:55] jcastro: global jam is community-wide [13:56] I get that [13:56] jono and I thought it would be better to point it here [13:56] ok [13:57] I was under the impression that this was a team channel [13:57] but whatever. :) [13:58] jcastro: yeah, jono mentioned that we should drop the -team from the channel name [13:58] mhall119: but we've always said go to #ububntu-locoteams [13:58] why the change? [13:59] czajkowski: this is a new feature for global events, we've never pointed anything anywhere before [13:59] @mhall119 well, I thought this channel was the team channel [13:59] jcastro: Error: "mhall119" is not a valid command. [13:59] not a hangout channel [13:59] mhall119: on blog posts and mails we have always directed them to the locoteams channel [13:59] I'm just concerned it will turn into #ubunty [13:59] czajkowski: for general chatter? [13:59] jcastro; indeed, I thought we had #ubuntu-offtopic for that? [13:59] er, #ubuntu [14:00] mhall119: always [14:00] general chatter went there [14:00] p[us fot teams wanting to show off what they were doing [14:00] during the day, or ask where they should go, they went there first [14:00] czajkowski: well the LC has the ability to edit that, if you guys wanted it pointed somewhere else [14:01] well not if ye've made the decision to put them in here... [14:01] czajkowski: it's just a field in the database, easy enough to change [14:01] * jcastro doesn't feel strongly either way, was just pointing out that it was different [14:04] I don't have a preference either, I just needed to put *something* in the field [14:07] my only concern is monday after the jam that this channel becomes a mess [14:08] mhall119: can you help me with my wireless? [14:08] OMG FLASH BROKEN HALP. [14:08] etc. [14:09] and you'd rather that happens to -locoteams, or you don't think it will happen to -locoteams? [14:09] if we want to setup a separate channel specifically for globaljam chatter, I'm cool with that too [14:09] again, it's just a field in the database [14:10] * mhall119 needs to remove status.net form the microblog feed [14:10] well, we always did it in locoteams in the past [14:10] shrug, like I said, I'm not too opinionated about it [14:11] mhall119; that might even be a good idea [14:11] MrChrisDruif: that'll be windows #71 for me :( [14:11] mhall119; just for the UGJ ;-) [14:11] After that you can close it again ^_^ [14:12] close an irc window???? [14:12] blasphemy! [14:13] jcastro: are you enjoying watching everyone in Florida complain about 40F temperatures? [14:16] we went to the garlic fest over the weekend [14:16] and people were wearing coats and gloves and hats [14:16] I was like "what?" [14:17] I did wear a pullover yesterday though, it was a tad chilly [14:18] jcastro; and the temperature was? [14:18] (In Celsius if possible ^_^) [14:18] 50s iirc [14:18] oh, no clue in C [14:18] F? [14:18] it was light jacket weather, but not like, coats and gloves and stuff [14:19] Ah, 10+ C [14:19] Last week it was -13 C in Holland O_O [14:19] 8.6 F [14:20] MrChrisDruif: Floridians are weenies when it comes to cold [14:20] but we'll make fun of everyone else in the summer [14:21] Ghehe [14:22] we're all "Oh, you're on fire? Well we have humidity! take that!" [14:38] Hello. [14:52] mornin [14:55] Afternoon cjohnston ^_^ [14:56] it will be afternoon once I get on the plane [15:05] cjohnston: you're not back yet? [15:07] no [15:11] cjohnston: stop vacationing and get back to work [15:16] hey guys [15:16] so, with this loco page [15:16] where are we putting tasks and stuff for people [15:20] jcastro, I haven't been doing it myself yet, but I thought it was https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuGlobalJam [15:21] or the one on the loco directory [15:21] for the event [15:21] yeah I am just confused, with the new page we'll probably remove a bunch of stuff from this page right? [15:22] I thought the idea was just to modify the front page and leave the subpages as they were [15:22] ok [15:23] s-fox: yo. [15:24] s-fox: did someone with admin access link up with lamont? [15:29] dpm: the dashboard on the loco directory is for interaction/participation, the wiki is still better for detailed information [15:30] mhall119, ok, cool [15:35] jcastro, I sent some contact details through. Not heard anything since [15:42] never again shall I torture dholbach or jcastro for email addresses whoooooooo :D [15:43] czajkowski: now your real motive comes clear :P [15:44] yup [15:44] al I wanted was email addresses [15:56] hey jono [15:57] hey dholbach [16:01] dholbach, all set? [16:01] yep [16:29] dpm, going to be a bit late [16:29] jono, no worries [16:45] dpm, all set? [16:45] jono, yep, let me grab a drink, I need 30 sec [16:46] dpm, np, will set up the hangout [16:46] * dholbach could do with a drink too [16:47] dpm, hangout sent [16:47] dholbach, jaegerbombs! :-) [16:47] one of those Mondays is it? [16:48] jono, that'd be a bit drastic :) [16:48] ain't nothing drastic about a jaegerbomb? [16:48] did someone say shots? [16:48] woo! [16:49] shot shot shot shot shot shots shots [16:49] I love you all [16:54] ohhh nyommy jaegaerbombs! [16:54] or baby guinness :D [17:01] <-- lunching [17:02] (though I might just go to a bar and get some jaegerbombs) === fenris is now known as Guest17978 [17:25] jono: are we still on in 5? [17:26] alright my friends - I call it a day - there's a one-year anniversary to celebrate [17:26] see you all tomorrow [17:26] hugs [17:27] bye dholbach [17:27] happy $anniversary [17:28] thanks :) [17:30] mhall119, all set? [17:30] jcastro, you've got an awesome about page on your new blog [17:31] yeah that's about.me [17:31] dpm: http://castrojo.tumblr.com/post/11360873455/lets-make-it-personal [17:33] jono: yup [17:33] mhall119, creating hangout [17:39] ok, calling it a day... [17:39] have a nice rest of the day everyone, and see you tomorrow! [17:42] mhall119: andrewsomething has fixes for CCSM in the queue [17:42] see ubuntu-desktop [17:42] you might have to ping smspillaz to look at them [18:06] jcastro: link to the fixes? [18:06] https://code.launchpad.net/~andrewsomething/ubuntu/precise/compizconfig-settings-manager/first_run_warning/+merge/91374 [18:06] https://code.launchpad.net/~andrewsomething/ubuntu/precise/compizconfig-settings-manager/disable_unity_checkbox/+merge/91375 [18:06] they're from like 3 days ago [18:07] jcastro: looks like didrocks is already on the case [18:07] oh awesome. <3 [18:08] looks like he must have read the same mail, heh [19:00] jcastro, all set? [19:02] jono: yep [19:02] sorry I was in the restoorm [19:03] jcastro, damn you! [19:03] :-) [19:03] yikes [19:03] plugin crashed [19:03] one sec [19:03] lol [19:11] jcastro: Introduce Jono to Signals. :) [19:11] Digital Man. :) [19:12] hi all [19:13] :-) [19:21] jono, skaggs live in 10? [19:24] balloons, yup [19:24] jcastro, http://loco.ubuntu.com/events/global/1443/detail/ [19:26] balloons, want to start early? [19:26] ohh yea.. 4 mins early! [19:26] so good [19:26] into my fourth hour of calls [19:26] phew [19:26] Mondays are always intense [19:26] real [19:27] invite sent [19:28] Daviey: ping === koolhead17 is now known as koolhead17|zzZZ [20:20] lunch [20:20] biab [21:36] popey, ping? [21:36] yo [21:36] popey, are you running the business remix team? [21:37] no [21:37] popey, who is? [21:37] Gary Ekker is [21:37] ok cool [21:37] I need to get some content for Wired [21:37] will mail him [21:37] thanks [21:37] np [21:39] the plot thickens... [21:39] da da da dum... [21:48] INBOX 3 [21:49] * mhall119 inbox (500) [21:49] :( [21:51] Inbox 0 would be an awesome achievement in ubuntu [21:51] for the trophies [21:52] man where did the day go [21:53] I've no idea. but so in dire need of sleep [21:56] jcastro, I actually manage that most of the time, though I really do get insane amounts of mail at times. :) [21:56] heh, it really requires quite an effort. :) [21:56] I give myself a gold star when I can keep it under 50 :) [21:56] (44 right now, woo gold star!) [21:57] I deleted all emails in my mailbox at new years eve, and now it's about 6500 emails. 0 unread. [21:59] czajkowski: how was your first day? [22:01] * balloons inbox(4) [22:01] but that's not counting all the other items in folders that are unread.. sometimes the key to winning is to use a better metric :-) [22:01] hehe [22:02] all folders and all accounts (0) :) [22:03] one thing that annoys me, though, is that gmail exposes some messages twice, so I have to mark them as read twice in tbird. [22:03] I'm very close to dropping the whole google thing once and for all. [22:05] mhall119: inbox 0 :) [22:05] am pooped [22:10] jcastro, 20% day...you should write some Juju and Server accomplishments ;-) [22:11] ok so like while I love the 20% idea [22:11] it doesn't actually add 20% time to my workday [22:12] lol [22:13] mhall119, did you figure out the problem with the number of UGJ events on l.u.c? [22:13] jono: oh dude [22:13] on the other hand [22:13] trophies are perfect for UCJ [22:13] er, UGJ [22:13] jcastro, indeed [22:14] a loco team, one whiteboard, 2 hours [22:14] could totally make a ton [22:14] jcastro, you wanna write them? [22:14] :-) [22:14] I'll have to see how close my tasks are to the black line that weekend [22:14] call me "plateau guy" [22:14] :-) [22:15] always the ideas...never the commitment... [22:15] lol [22:15] i know right [22:15] lol [22:15] I'll get my few in there [22:15] :-) [22:15] this week I hope to show it working so people can test it [22:16] for existing U1 users it is basically about there [22:16] jono: hey so, gustavo totally future proofed himself [22:16] when the store lands [22:16] the existing clients will just work [22:16] heh... Has the software center gone on strike in Precise? :) [22:17] that means that when the backend goes live, everyone with juju will just get the backend [22:17] they won't be like totally broken [22:17] it's totally awesome [22:17] even on 11.10 [22:19] jcastro, sweet [22:19] jo-erlend, they are getting synced over soon [22:19] jono, it's not just me then. Thanks :) [22:20] hmm, is this local menu thing omg running real? [22:20] jo-erlend, :-) [22:20] I thought they were just putting them in the window title area, not making them vertical [22:20] jcastro, Trevinho is working on it [22:20] not sure what the final design will be [22:20] I suspect this will get some user testing [22:20] and be adjusted [22:21] it can work in a few different modes [22:21] oh I am just wondering if this was a result of the last batch of user testing [22:21] it was a result of a merge proposal [22:22] it looks awesome [22:22] no more disappearing menu! [22:24] but shouldn't it have a button like close, minimize and maximize? [22:25] it does in the title bar thing [22:25] (from the screenshot I am looking at, I haven't tried it) [22:25] http://cdn.omgubuntu.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2012/02/LIM-flair-asset.png [22:25] I'm looking at that screenshot too. I'm thinking that doesn't look like an actionable widget. [22:25] might be difficult to discover. [22:25] oh I see what you mean [22:28] assuming the final one makes that discoverable, shrug [22:28] I didn't like the disappearing menu that much [22:28] I suspect I will be heavily using the hud for the few times I use the menu anyway [22:35] jo-erlend: this will be excellent [22:35] now the people who hate the global menu will like this [22:35] and now we'll get flamed by the people who liked the global menu [22:35] we need to cover all the bases! [22:36] I really _love_ the fact that the menubar is hidden. This seems to be mostly perfect. When maximized, it should be hidden until the window controls are displayed on hover. On non-maximized windows, it should be visible all the time, since the window controls are anyway. One more button won't add much clutter. [22:37] jcastro, "So many clicks! Horizontal is better!" :) [22:41] yeah I thought LIM would just be the menu showing up on the titlebar when the app is unmaximized. [22:41] but whatever, this looks better I think [22:49] back soon, heading to the coffee shop [22:50] jo-erlend: https://code.launchpad.net/~mhall119/loco-team-portal/fix-globalevent-count/+register-merge [22:50] whoops, was for jono [22:50] but he's already left, so tab-fail [22:50] yes, I got a little confused there, for a moment. :) [22:50] hey mhall119 [22:50] is that local menu thing in the unity queue? [22:50] * jcastro debates switching back to the staging ppa [22:50] depends, what do yu mean by 'local menu thing'? [22:51] jcastro: the thing OMG had up? [22:51] yeah [22:51] I don't think those branches have landed yet [22:52] I don't know if staging ppa builds from trunk or some other branch though [22:53] I think it's trunk [22:53] well, I notice the PPA fires off when new stuff hits trunk [22:53] but that just might be coincidence for all I know [22:57] surprised global menu and lim thing don't look like launcher quicklists [22:58] I wonder if launcher quicklists could *be* the menu, they are just dbusmenuitems [23:01] no, they are not hierarchical. Shame. [23:07] AlanBell: they are also per-app, not per-window [23:08] they might work for the new Gnome AppMenu though [23:16] mhall119: yeah, but the active window is the only one of an app-group with a useful menu [23:17] if the quicklists were hierachical and exposed the menu of the top-most window of the application they would be quite interesting [23:18] did you try my window quicklists? [23:19] AlanBell: the new Gnome Application Menu is going to let app developers define one menu for the application itself, not just per-window [23:19] I think that's coming in Gnome 3.4 [23:20] AlanBell: http://live.gnome.org/ThreePointThree/Features/ApplicationMenu [23:21] interesting, would be nice to pin that to the launcher on a per-application basis [23:21] then you could operate the menus of all your applications, without changing window focus if you don't want to [23:22] this might be a feature that the design team won't approve of [23:23] anyhow, window quicklists are nice. http://people.ubuntu.com/~alanbell/quicklists.py [23:26] where is this implemented? I mean, will it have to be hardcoded into Unity or something, or can it be implemented using plugins? It would be very nice, I think, if you could install different menu styles. That way, people could experiment much more with different styles, which might make it easier to find something awesome that really works well. [23:49] jo-erlend: Gnome exports it over dbus, iirc [23:49] not exactly like Unity does, but similar idea