| desrt | ugh. libneon is messed up. | 00:11 |
|---|---|---|
| lifeless | desrt: again ? :0 | 00:12 |
| desrt | lifeless: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/neon27/+bug/845901 | 00:12 |
| ubot2` | Launchpad bug 845901 in neon27 "libneon can't find SSLv2_server_method" [Undecided,Confirmed] | 00:12 |
| desrt | it's pretty seriously messed up. i'm surprised it builds at all. | 00:14 |
| desrt | it's using a function that completely does not exist in any library | 00:14 |
| desrt | presumably it existed in libssl at some point but was removed | 00:14 |
| micahg | that should've been fixed many releases ago | 00:19 |
| broder | IIRC we killed off SSLv2 in oneiric | 00:22 |
| desrt | http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=622140 btw | 00:22 |
| ubot2` | Debian bug 622140 in neon27 "neon27: symbol SSLv2_server_method used" [Serious,Open] | 00:22 |
| broder | because i think i ran into a boost incompatibility issue | 00:22 |
| broder | upgrading some of my software to oneiric | 00:22 |
| * micahg thought it was killed long before that | 00:23 | |
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| RAOF | lifeless: Why would squid be dying with a SIGABRT when I try to start it? squid3 -k parse -f /etc/squid-deb-proxy/squid-deb-proxy.conf lists a couple of warnings, complains about not being able to write to /var/log/squid-deb-proxy, but otherwise completes successfully. | 05:29 |
| lifeless | RAOF: so if its calling abort() it should log something first | 06:03 |
| RAOF | FATAL: xcalloc: Unable to allocate 4154659762 blocks of 1 bytes! | 06:04 |
| RAOF | Ah. | 06:04 |
| RAOF | Hm. It's trying to allocate and zero 4GB of memory? | 06:05 |
| RAOF | lifeless: http://paste.ubuntu.com/840056/ | 06:07 |
| BigWhale | Morning. | 06:12 |
| GunnarHj | pitti: Good morning, Martin! Just replied on bug 930785. | 06:16 |
| ubot2` | Launchpad bug 930785 in language-selector "gnome-language-selector crashed with DBusException in call_blocking(): org.freedesktop.Accounts.Error.Failed: 'bg_BG.UTF-8' is not a valid locale name" [Undecided,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/930785 | 06:16 |
| pitti | hey GunnarHj | 06:17 |
| pitti | GunnarHj: right, but I wonder if there is a cleaner solution | 06:17 |
| GunnarHj | pitti: Guess we can wait a while. It's not very urgent, I suppose. | 06:18 |
| didrocks | good morning | 06:23 |
| pitti | hey didrocks, how are you? | 06:27 |
| didrocks | pitti: I'm fine, thanks. And you, how was your week-end? | 06:27 |
| pitti | didrocks: quite fine, thanks! we visited our grandma, and had a nice birthday party | 06:32 |
| didrocks | ah nice :) | 06:34 |
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| pitti | GunnarHj: followed up to 930785 | 06:51 |
| lifeless | RAOF: fun | 07:13 |
| GunnarHj | pitti: Ok, then I'll write a patch with the 'locale -a' approach. | 07:13 |
| lifeless | RAOF: a 27PB cache ?! | 07:13 |
| lifeless | RAOF: that 4G alloc is probably happening for the hash table | 07:14 |
| lifeless | RAOF: e.g. your config is insane | 07:14 |
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| seb128 | hey | 09:00 |
| czajkowski | seb128: morning | 09:00 |
| seb128 | hi czajkowski | 09:01 |
| pitti | bonjour seb128, ca va? | 09:05 |
| seb128 | hey, pitti, ca va bien! et toi ? | 09:07 |
| pitti | seb128: je suis bien, merci! | 09:07 |
| pitti | seb128: did anything come up at the release team meeting? | 09:07 |
| seb128 | pitti, no | 09:08 |
| pitti | I saw the fun with webkit, thanks for sorting this out | 09:08 |
| chrisccoulson | good morning everyone | 09:08 |
| pitti | hey chrhi | 09:09 |
| pitti | hey chrisccoulson, how are you? | 09:09 |
| chrisccoulson | hi pitti. i'm good thanks, how are you? | 09:09 |
| pitti | chrisccoulson: quite fine, thanks! had a nice long weekend | 09:10 |
| chrisccoulson | excellent :) | 09:10 |
| chrisccoulson | i had quite a busy weekend moving my desk and having everything set up and ready by this morning | 09:10 |
| pitti | chrisccoulson: oh, you have a new "office" room now? | 09:11 |
| chrisccoulson | yeah, i'm downstairs now. we've freed up the old room for my daughter | 09:11 |
| chrisccoulson | moving my desk downstairs was not much fun | 09:12 |
| pitti | seb128: hm, I'm trying to build glom, but libgdamm4.0-dev doesn't exist; wasn't there some effort to pacakge it? | 09:26 |
| seb128 | pitti, dholbach has it in a ppa he asked for review on #ubuntu-devel last week I think | 09:27 |
| seb128 | goocanvasmm as well | 09:27 |
| seb128 | Laney said he would have a look iirc | 09:27 |
| seb128 | better to check with them | 09:27 |
| pitti | ok, thanks; ignoring for now | 09:27 |
| seb128 | pitti, there? | 10:00 |
| pitti | seb128: yes, I just spoke 2 mins ago :) ) | 10:00 |
| seb128 | pitti, I want to chat about gnome-settings-daemon if you have a minute | 10:00 |
| pitti | seb128: what's up? | 10:01 |
| seb128 | pitti, so, I've been looking at 3.4 compared to 3.2, I will do a second round today but with order of magnitude numbers are | 10:01 |
| pitti | hm, LP just went down? | 10:02 |
| seb128 | - 350 commits, I would say: 150 are on wacom (new code, side feature), 100 on translations, 25 on xrandr (better support for docking station) | 10:02 |
| seb128 | some 50 are bug fixes | 10:02 |
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| pitti | right, I had to pull libwacom from jhbuild to build it | 10:03 |
| seb128 | and there are like 15 less easy commits like keybindings to gsettings and dropping gconf plugin | 10:03 |
| seb128 | I'm pondering going for 3.4, reverting the keybinding and gconf stuff | 10:03 |
| seb128 | how crazy do you think that is? | 10:03 |
| pitti | is the latter a problem because unity or others still expect keybindings in gconf? | 10:03 |
| seb128 | the other option is to backport some 25 (at least) commits | 10:04 |
| seb128 | pitti, yes, compiz still use gconf | 10:04 |
| pitti | I just had assumed that it would require control-center 3.4, too | 10:04 |
| RAOF | lifeless: How has that config gone crazy? It's unmodified from squid-deb-proxy defaults. | 10:04 |
| seb128 | in fact the keybinding stuff is one commit | 10:04 |
| seb128 | I think it should be easy enough to make it select gconf or gsettings at run time, which would maybe let update gnome-shell, I know they really would like the new version | 10:05 |
| seb128 | pitti, c-c, I didn't see a reason why it would | 10:05 |
| seb128 | they didn't change configuration keys or format | 10:05 |
| seb128 | it's mostly bug fixing, wacom, keybinding on gsettings (to revert), xrandr better dock support | 10:05 |
| pitti | the other stuff sounds fine indeed | 10:06 |
| seb128 | pitti, if you think that's not too crazy I will go ahead with a second round and do a detailled summary with diffstat, diff, etc in a bug report | 10:06 |
| seb128 | and land it in a ppa for testing today if I can | 10:06 |
| pitti | seb128: I'd like to get cnd's review on the new package, how the new wacom stuff holds up with our multitouch patches | 10:06 |
| pitti | seb128: that sounds great | 10:06 |
| pitti | happy to test from u-desktop PPA | 10:07 |
| seb128 | pitti, wacom is a separate dir, we can't just not build it if we don't want to | 10:07 |
| seb128 | can't->can | 10:07 |
| seb128 | like everything in gsd it's its own .so | 10:07 |
| seb128 | we can easily drop it | 10:07 |
| pitti | ah, I see | 10:07 |
| pitti | I guess we have to for the first round | 10:07 |
| pitti | it's in universe, and too old | 10:08 |
| pitti | seb128: is it an optional build dep, or do we need to hack the makefiles? | 10:08 |
| pitti | seb128: if you want, I can update it to 0.2.1, if that helps | 10:08 |
| pitti | or tjaalton might want to | 10:08 |
| seb128 | pitti, we need to hack the makefiles I think | 10:09 |
| seb128 | GNOME don't want to make stuff customizable or optional nowadays, they want GNOME to be it's designed ;-) | 10:09 |
| tjaalton | pitti: libwacom? | 10:10 |
| pitti | tjaalton: yes | 10:10 |
| pitti | seb128: oh, it seems remmina-plugins is obsolete now, binaries are now built by remmina itself | 10:11 |
| * pitti cleans up | 10:11 | |
| pitti | seb128: so, let's give that a try, if it's not too hard to do; I'm happy to test with my dock, too | 10:12 |
| tjaalton | pitti: I'll update it, 0.3 is ok? | 10:13 |
| seb128 | pitti, ok, I will work on that today, still wanting to summarize where we go in details before update | 10:14 |
| seb128 | tjaalton, that would be great, thanks | 10:14 |
| pitti | tjaalton: sure; but as I said, we can't use it in g-c-c right now (without a MIR at least) | 10:14 |
| pitti | if someone could actually test this with an actual wacom device, we could do a MIR | 10:14 |
| tjaalton | pitti: np, it'll be available at least | 10:14 |
| tjaalton | oh the wacom capplet? | 10:15 |
| tjaalton | I have an intuos4L | 10:15 |
| tkamppeter | pitti, hi | 10:16 |
| seb128 | pitti, jbicha dropped me an email where he mentioned he's wanting to file the mir for libwacom, he really wants the new g-s-d in ;-) | 10:17 |
| seb128 | pitti, well the mir is not a blocker for ppa builds | 10:17 |
| pitti | hey tkamppeter | 10:17 |
| pitti | seb128: right | 10:17 |
| seb128 | pitti, so I don't know need to bother for the testing round | 10:17 |
| pitti | seb128: you still need >= 0.2.1, though | 10:17 |
| seb128 | pitti, right, tjaalton is fixing that for me apparently though :p | 10:18 |
| seb128 | pitti, btw remmina 1.0, well done | 10:19 |
| seb128 | we got it in time for ff ;-) | 10:20 |
| tjaalton | seb128: yeah I'd like to have the wacom gui as well :) | 10:20 |
| pitti | seb128: I'll seed it today once jdstrand gives the final ok for freerdp 1.0.1 | 10:20 |
| pitti | actually, I'll update the seeds right now | 10:20 |
| seb128 | pitti, can you drop gnome-searchtools if we didn't yet? | 10:21 |
| seb128 | pitti, gnome-search-tool | 10:21 |
| pitti | what's the replacement? | 10:21 |
| seb128 | pitti, nothing, design said nautilus search and dash are enough searches | 10:21 |
| pitti | * gnome-screenshot | 10:21 |
| pitti | * gnome-search-tool | 10:21 |
| pitti | * gnome-system-log | 10:21 |
| pitti | * gnome-font-viewer | 10:21 |
| pitti | seb128: ah, right, nautilus search | 10:21 |
| pitti | ^ those are our gnome-utils right now | 10:21 |
| pitti | dropping search | 10:21 |
| seb128 | pitti, gnome-screenshot is its own source in fact | 10:22 |
| seb128 | but yeah | 10:22 |
| seb128 | pitti, thanks | 10:22 |
| pitti | - * (vinagre) | 10:23 |
| seb128 | pitti, they made standalone components for gnome-utils this cycle, I only bothered packaging gnome-screenshot though since the other ones didn't get any activity worth getting the new version | 10:23 |
| pitti | + * (remmina) | 10:23 |
| seb128 | \o/ | 10:23 |
| pitti | remmina recommends: remmina-plugin-rdp, remmina-plugin-vnc | 10:23 |
| pitti | so that should suffice | 10:23 |
| pitti | seb128: right, I meant "what used to be -utils" | 10:23 |
| tkamppeter | pitti, can you upload cups-filters into Debian and Ubuntu? Thanks. | 10:24 |
| seb128 | pitti, right ;-) | 10:25 |
| pitti | tkamppeter: any chance to get a simple texttops back for the release critical bug? | 10:26 |
| tkamppeter | pitti, will do so and release as 1.0.1 upstream. | 10:27 |
| chrisccoulson | hmmm, i definitely need to get a lock for this door | 10:27 |
| pitti | tkamppeter: should I wait for this to avoid two debian uploads in a row? | 10:28 |
| tkamppeter | pitti, OK, wait for that. | 10:28 |
| ricotz | seb128, while looking at g-c-c and g-s-d could you drop Makefile.in from patches? | 10:40 |
| seb128 | ricotz, is that creating issues? | 10:40 |
| ricotz | seb128, this cleans the patch a bit and an autoreconf it done anyway | 10:40 |
| seb128 | ricotz, ok | 10:40 |
| ricotz | thanks | 10:40 |
| seb128 | yw | 10:40 |
| ricotz | seb128, do you know if joss has a running gdm 3.2.1.1 in debian since it is in the svn | 10:41 |
| seb128 | ricotz, not sure, ask him on #debian-gnome I guess | 10:42 |
| ricotz | ah, didnt recall the nickname ;) | 10:43 |
| pitti | Sweetshark: hey Bjoern, wie gehts? | 11:03 |
| pitti | Sweetshark: the "libreoffice" metapackage depends: libreoffice-report-builder-bin, but report-builder was dropped, so these pacakges don't exist any more; can you please drop the dep? | 11:05 |
| seb128 | hum, could people stop spamming the desktop list with weird discussions? ;-) | 11:17 |
| chrisccoulson | yeah, i was thinking the same thing too | 11:17 |
| chrisccoulson | you know when somebody references a scene from borat the discussion has lost all hope of ever being useful | 11:22 |
| seb128 | lol | 11:24 |
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| pitti | rickspencer3: finally! http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/testing/precise_probs.html | 12:18 |
| pitti | Sweetshark: did you get my ping from earlier about the binfilter depends? | 12:25 |
| Sweetshark | pitti: yes, I try to reenable building report-builder, just to see if it works. | 12:27 |
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| Sweetshark | pitti: I guess that would require a FFE even if it would build *confused* (the FFE definitions dont map well to the libreoffice a-whole-distro-in-one-source-package world) | 12:28 |
| pitti | Sweetshark: hm, we had it before, though | 12:29 |
| pitti | seb128: do you happen to know about packaging lightdm-gtk-greeter? | 12:29 |
| seb128 | pitti, being done by Debian, I will sync once it's uploaded | 12:29 |
| seb128 | pitti, I can have a look to not wait on Debian this week if you want to but not today | 12:29 |
| seb128 | pitti, it's mostly ready in the pkg-xfce vcs in Debian | 12:29 |
| seb128 | pitti, http://anonscm.debian.org/viewvc/pkg-xfce/goodies/trunk/lightdm-gtk-greeter/debian/ | 12:30 |
| pitti | seb128: ah, thanks | 12:34 |
| seb128 | pitti, ideally somebody from xubuntu or lubuntu who step up to maintain that greeter | 12:35 |
| seb128 | since they use it and we don't... | 12:35 |
| pitti | right | 12:35 |
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| Sweetshark | pitti: seems like some on the needed deps for report-builder got demoted to universe :( | 13:32 |
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| pitti | Sweetshark: don't worry, we'll re-promote it once it needs it again | 13:41 |
| Sweetshark | bug 919659 <- oh, great. lets just kill 3.4 and backport 3.5 ... | 13:46 |
| ubot2` | Launchpad bug 919659 in libreoffice "[Downstream] Can't open/save spreadsheet with password" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/919659 | 13:46 |
| Sweetshark | </sarc> | 13:46 |
| jbicha | good morning | 13:50 |
| pitti | hey jbicha, how are you? | 13:51 |
| jbicha | I'm doing good, how was your weekend? | 13:53 |
| pitti | jbicha: it was really nice | 13:54 |
| jbicha | remmina forgot to install its desktop file, it's fixed in trunk now though | 13:55 |
| seb128 | jbicha, hey | 14:00 |
| seb128 | jbicha, your g-s-d work, did you start on changes for the new version there or only merging on Debian? | 14:00 |
| jbicha | seb128: I did both | 14:03 |
| seb128 | jbicha, hum, ok :-( | 14:03 |
| seb128 | jbicha, I don't want to increase diff by mixing a debian merge with the update, I will pick bits out of your work and rebase manually then | 14:04 |
| kenvandine | wow the archive is slow today... been downloading updates for 30m this morning | 14:12 |
| kenvandine | you'd think it was release day :) | 14:12 |
| chrisccoulson | hmmm, my neck really isn't used to looking to the left | 14:15 |
| chrisccoulson | perhaps i shouldn't have rearranged my desk ;) | 14:15 |
| kenvandine | haha | 14:15 |
| pitti | chrisccoulson: noone's neck is -- the monitor should be right in front of you | 14:15 |
| chrisccoulson | pitti - oh, my primary screen is. but the laptop screen + dock are on the left | 14:15 |
| chrisccoulson | they used to be on the right, but that's where i also have my mouse | 14:16 |
| chrisccoulson | so i thought i'd try moving the dock so that i have more room | 14:16 |
| chrisccoulson | it feels a bit weird though | 14:16 |
| didrocks | m4n1sh: hey, how are you? | 14:18 |
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| mterry | seb128, pitti: Why did we re-enable indicators for the fallback session? That will challenge some assumptions elsewhere about whether Unity==indicators (e.g. the way we swap in our date/time panel for upstream's) | 14:29 |
| seb128 | mterry, | 14:30 |
| seb128 | gnome-panel (1:3.3.5-0ubuntu2) precise; urgency=low | 14:30 |
| seb128 | * debian/patches/41_classic_layout.patch: | 14:30 |
| seb128 | - Change the defaults to be more "classic Ubuntu": Show indicators | 14:30 |
| seb128 | & show desktop, drop GNOME clock & notification area (LP: #846378) | 14:30 |
| seb128 | mterry, jbicha did it | 14:30 |
| seb128 | mterry, I've no strong opinion either way | 14:30 |
| seb128 | mterry, hey btw, had a good w.e? ;-) | 14:30 |
| mterry | I also thought we were trying to not modify the upstream experience | 14:30 |
| pitti | mterry: err, we did? | 14:31 |
| mterry | seb128, yeah, it was good :) | 14:31 |
| pitti | mterry: I think we should not have any indicators in gnome-shell or gnome-panel | 14:31 |
| mterry | pitti, I tend to agree | 14:31 |
| seb128 | pitti, cf the changelog I just copied | 14:31 |
| pitti | right, I think we should revert that | 14:31 |
| seb128 | I've no strong opinion, jbicha and ricotz are in charge of GNOME upstream experience ;-) | 14:31 |
| pitti | jbicha: ^ opinion? | 14:31 |
| seb128 | pitti, well he's the one who did the change so I guess he's in favor of it | 14:32 |
| pitti | jbicha: I'd rather ship a real upstream experience now | 14:32 |
| mterry | seb128, yar but he may not be aware of the consequences | 14:32 |
| seb128 | I'm unsure, people updating for lucid would probably like to still get their gnome-panel session similar to what they are used to | 14:32 |
| pitti | jbicha: we don't really test indicators and other ubuntu-isms in gnome upstream, so we better not modify it too much? | 14:32 |
| mterry | jbicha, just FYI, other parts of the desktop now detect whether they are in Unity or not to expose indicator preferences | 14:32 |
| seb128 | mterry, well what you say that is that we shouldn't have added indicator-applet back | 14:33 |
| pitti | correct | 14:33 |
| seb128 | in the archive | 14:33 |
| pitti | we even removed it, didn't we? | 14:33 |
| mterry | Oh, I guess | 14:33 |
| seb128 | pitti, because it was not ported to GNOME3 | 14:33 |
| mterry | That's my biggest concern, yeah | 14:33 |
| pitti | no, because we (well, seems "only some of us") didn't really want it back | 14:33 |
| seb128 | well, on the other side quite some people like gnome-panel with indicators | 14:33 |
| mterry | seb128, have them email GNOME to add it. ;) | 14:33 |
| seb128 | lol | 14:34 |
| seb128 | well we have indicator-applet and it's working | 14:34 |
| mterry | Ah, but it's not quite. Users have no way to modify some of the settings | 14:34 |
| pitti | and now we don't have a real gnome any more | 14:34 |
| seb128 | it's about time we really fork gnome-control-center | 14:34 |
| seb128 | we stack hacks on hacks between sessions | 14:34 |
| seb128 | we should have an ubuntu-control-center and a gnome-control-center | 14:35 |
| seb128 | but that's a discussion for next cycle ;-) | 14:35 |
| seb128 | pitti, well gnome-shell is real GNOME | 14:35 |
| mterry | seb128, perhaps. But then to fix this, we'd be talking about swapping out the control center for the fallback session. Which gets us further from the GNOME experience. | 14:35 |
| seb128 | ok, I'm out of this discussion | 14:35 |
| mterry | :) | 14:36 |
| seb128 | I don't think gnome-panel is worth the time we are loosing discussing it | 14:36 |
| mterry | seb128, care to talk about keyboard indicators instead? | 14:36 |
| seb128 | mterry, I'm happy to talk keyboard ;-) | 14:36 |
| mterry | I don't get the no-keyboard-indicator bug you see. So I'm not sure if I'm doing the same thing as you | 14:36 |
| seb128 | mterry, sorry for the list spam, I should draft emails rather than just commit after each step of testing :p | 14:36 |
| mterry | heh | 14:36 |
| seb128 | mterry, the user switching one? or the "in session indicator"? | 14:36 |
| mterry | The in-session indicator one | 14:36 |
| seb128 | mterry, my switch to workspace <n> keybindings are broken as well with your update | 14:37 |
| seb128 | so something is broken with g-s-d | 14:37 |
| seb128 | I tried to --debug run it but I didn't see anything obvious | 14:37 |
| mterry | seb128, ?? | 14:37 |
| mterry | seb128, hmm. sounds like maybe it's blocking on something? Never gets to the point where it can show keyboard indicator or handle events | 14:38 |
| seb128 | mterry, well I've alt-1 for switch to ws1 for example, with the g-s-d from the ppa that stopped working | 14:38 |
| mterry | seb128, like if it couldn't get a response from accountsservice when it tried to tell it about your layouts? | 14:38 |
| seb128 | so I'm wondering if there is an issue leading to some plugins not loading | 14:38 |
| seb128 | hum | 14:39 |
| seb128 | mterry, could be yes | 14:39 |
| mterry | My patch is real small. It's just calling accountsservice calls (but doing so synchronously) | 14:39 |
| mterry | seb128, can you double-confirm you have the accountsservice from the PPA? | 14:39 |
| seb128 | mterry, do you use the gir? | 14:40 |
| seb128 | ii accountsservice 0.6.15-2ubuntu4+keyboard1 query and manipulate user account information | 14:40 |
| seb128 | ii gir1.2-accountsservice-1.0 0.6.15-2ubuntu4 GObject introspection data for AccountService | 14:40 |
| seb128 | ii libaccountsservice0 0.6.15-2ubuntu4+keyboard1 query and manipulate user account information - shared libraries | 14:40 |
| seb128 | 14:40 | |
| seb128 | seems I didn't update the gir | 14:40 |
| seb128 | could it break stuff? | 14:40 |
| mterry | No, shouldn't... it doesn't use the gir | 14:40 |
| * kenvandine wishes robert_ancell was online for a hug, he cleaned up all the compiler warnings in gwibber :) | 14:40 | |
| seb128 | hehe | 14:41 |
| kenvandine | and he started a branch with bake :) | 14:41 |
| seb128 | mterry, gdb on it seems to indicate it's not blocked | 14:42 |
| seb128 | #1 0x00b05020 in __GI___poll (fds=0x9c5f590, nfds=10, timeout=3999) | 14:42 |
| seb128 | at ../sysdeps/unix/sysv/linux/poll.c:87 | 14:42 |
| seb128 | #2 0x007d280b in g_poll (fds=0x9c5f590, nfds=10, timeout=3999) | 14:42 |
| seb128 | at /build/buildd/glib2.0-2.31.16/./glib/gpoll.c:132 | 14:42 |
| seb128 | #3 0x007c4dde in g_main_context_poll (n_fds=10, fds=0x9c5f590, | 14:42 |
| seb128 | 14:42 | |
| mterry | seb128, curious... my patch seems so harmless besides the possibility of blocking: https://launchpadlibrarian.net/92613030/gnome-settings-daemon_3.2.2-0ubuntu15_3.2.2-0ubuntu15%2Bkeyboard1.diff.gz | 14:43 |
| mterry | And it's not just crashing for you it sounds like | 14:43 |
| seb128 | mterry, ok, scrap the "keybindings are not working" | 14:44 |
| seb128 | mterry, they seem to work, maybe I had the wrong layout and didn't notice since the indicator is not showing | 14:44 |
| mterry | ah, heh | 14:44 |
| seb128 | mterry, but you got the indicator to show? | 14:44 |
| mterry | seb128, yeah. I have 4 layouts configured, and I see the indicator | 14:45 |
| seb128 | hum | 14:45 |
| seb128 | d-feet returns what seems the right keymaps list | 14:45 |
| * mterry wonders how widespread this is; needs another tester | 14:46 | |
| mterry | didrocks, heyo! | 14:50 |
| jbicha | have y'all tried default gnome-panel without the indicators? it's pretty horrible, the battery icon does nothing, it doesn't scroll well, and so on | 14:50 |
| * mterry waves to jbicha | 14:51 | |
| jbicha | mterry: hi! | 14:51 |
| kenvandine | jbicha, nope, only with the indicators :) | 14:51 |
| seb128 | mterry, | 14:51 |
| seb128 | $ gsettings get org.gnome.libgnomekbd.keyboard layouts | 14:51 |
| seb128 | ['de', 'fr\toss'] | 14:51 |
| seb128 | mterry, so that seems correct... | 14:51 |
| mterry | jbicha, I just wanted to make sure that it was understood that the preferences for the indicators don't show outside of Unity | 14:52 |
| jbicha | mterry: :( well at least it looks prettier | 14:53 |
| mterry | seb128, and you proved that g-s-d is not blocked with gdb... If you add a layout, does accountsservice reflect that over DBus? | 14:53 |
| didrocks | hey mterry :) | 14:53 |
| mterry | seb128, (the XKeyboardLayouts attribute) | 14:54 |
| jbicha | I think we really need a separate OnlyShowIn: value for GNOME Classic than for Shell | 14:54 |
| seb128 | mterry, it does | 14:55 |
| mterry | seb128, so that means my patch in g-s-d is doing its job. Just somewhere along the line the indicator got lost | 14:55 |
| mterry | didrocks, can you do me a favor and try the keyboard packages from the desktop PPA? | 14:56 |
| seb128 | mterry, I can easily trigger the issue if you need help debugging, like I "sudo apt-get install gnome-settings-daemon=3.2.2-0ubuntu15" and restart g-s-d and I get an indicator | 14:56 |
| mterry | didrocks, I want to see if this is a French thing or not :) | 14:56 |
| seb128 | I use the ppa and restart g-s-d and I get none | 14:56 |
| didrocks | mterry: sure, you meant, the g-s-d here? | 14:57 |
| mterry | didrocks, there are four packages, accountsservice, g-s-d, lightdm, unity-greeter | 14:57 |
| mterry | didrocks, and then you have to log out and back in twice. :) | 14:57 |
| mterry | didrocks, might just be easier to dist-upgrade rather than pick them out | 14:57 |
| didrocks | mterry: ok, that can wait for ~ half an hour? | 14:58 |
| mterry | didrocks, sure | 14:59 |
| mterry | didrocks, no rush, thanks! | 14:59 |
| didrocks | will do :) | 14:59 |
| mterry | tedg, did you get a chance to look at my indicator-power patch? I wanted to distro-patch it in for FF, but would feel better if I could say "backported from trunk" in the changelog :) | 14:59 |
| seb128 | mterry, I'm pretty puzzled at why your diff would break anything... | 15:00 |
| tedg | mterry, Yeah, I saw it, I'm not sure if it conflicts with charles' patch though. | 15:00 |
| tedg | mterry, I haven't looked at the two together yet. | 15:00 |
| mterry | seb128, me too :-/ | 15:01 |
| mterry | charles' patch, eh? /me looks | 15:01 |
| seb128 | mterry, can you confirm one of the other issues I reported at least? ;-) | 15:01 |
| mterry | seb128, heh, sure. let me try the switch user one | 15:01 |
| mterry | seb128, also, I tried switching layouts in the greeter and I wasn't able to log in anymore. So for me, it seems layout switching is working | 15:02 |
| mterry | seb128, wish there was a place to type that let you see what you were typing | 15:03 |
| seb128 | mterry, hum ok, anyway none of those seem blocker for an upload so maybe get that in precise and let's see what bugs come | 15:03 |
| mterry | seb128, the indicator one is kinda bad | 15:03 |
| seb128 | mterry, can't you enable back the "other" in some config way? | 15:03 |
| seb128 | for nfs,ldap logins | 15:03 |
| mterry | seb128, other? | 15:03 |
| seb128 | mterry, the entry that let you type an username | 15:03 |
| seb128 | mterry, isn't that required for i.e ldap logins? | 15:04 |
| mterry | seb128, oh right. no? not sure what happened to that, but haven't seen it in a while. let me check cde | 15:04 |
| mterry | code | 15:04 |
| seb128 | I used to type in that field to see what I typed | 15:04 |
| seb128 | mterry, it was disabled by default, but I'm pretty sure that respect a config, like show user list | 15:04 |
| seb128 | mterry, http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~unity-greeter-team/unity-greeter/trunk/revision/236 | 15:05 |
| seb128 | mterry, the check is easy to ack away at least for testing | 15:05 |
| seb128 | -if (greeter.hide_users_hint) | 15:05 |
| seb128 | +if(1) | 15:05 |
| seb128 | I guess | 15:05 |
| mterry | seb128, or greeter-hide-users=true in /etc/lightdm/lightdm.conf | 15:07 |
| seb128 | mterry, well then I guess you loose your users to test what config reading | 15:07 |
| seb128 | it would only list the username,password prompt in that case? | 15:08 |
| mterry | seb128, I think so? Let me try. Not sure I have the absolute correct syntax yet | 15:08 |
| seb128 | mterry, well that's what I would think the option do, hide your users | 15:08 |
| seb128 | that might not be good for testing | 15:09 |
| seb128 | I guess easier is to do a local build and show the chars in the password entry | 15:09 |
| ronoc | mvo, ping | 15:10 |
| mterry | seb128, hrm. I also don't get the switch-user behavior you describe. When you switch users, does the user list have to scroll to get to your name? | 15:10 |
| mterry | seb128, why not good for testing? | 15:10 |
| seb128 | mterry, no, I think the greeter is spawned with that user selected | 15:10 |
| mterry | seb128, yar, but for me, it animates scrolling to the user. Does it do that for you? | 15:11 |
| seb128 | mterry, vt switching sucks too much there, by the time I see the greeter it's already rendered, if it had to do an animation I don't see it | 15:11 |
| mterry | k | 15:11 |
| seb128 | mterry, what user is selected by default? | 15:11 |
| seb128 | mterry, the user I tested happens to be the first in the list | 15:11 |
| seb128 | if that makes a difference | 15:11 |
| seb128 | so no scrolling needed | 15:11 |
| seb128 | mterry, that's maybe a corner case if the user selected for switching is the default one | 15:12 |
| ronoc | mvo, the dependency problem with apt-get install libpackagekit-glib2-dev | 15:12 |
| mterry | seb128, yup, if it scrolls, no bug. But I do get it for first user | 15:12 |
| seb128 | mterry, I'm building a g-s-d locally with your patch and some printfs, let's see how that goes | 15:13 |
| mterry | seb128, it's not the default one, but the first alphabetically | 15:13 |
| ronoc | mvo, is preventing it from being released into precise | 15:13 |
| seb128 | mterry, right | 15:13 |
| seb128 | mterry, ok, good, so you can at least confirm this one ;-) | 15:13 |
| mterry | now let me try disabling chars | 15:13 |
| mterry | seb128, oh, I bet it looks horrible too for you! I didn't put the light-themes changes in the PPA | 15:13 |
| seb128 | mterry, it looks weird but I didn't stop at cosmetic issues, it's not uif yet ;-) | 15:14 |
| mterry | still, gotta have all the bling one can get | 15:14 |
| seb128 | mterry, hum, in fact I had only one glitch | 15:14 |
| mvo | ronoc: the dependency problem that it pulls in packagekit itself? | 15:14 |
| seb128 | mterry, we got a light-themes snapshot recently, I think it includes the theming work Cimi did | 15:14 |
| seb128 | mterry, or was there extra tweaks since? | 15:15 |
| ronoc | mvo, that's the one | 15:15 |
| mterry | seb128, no, don't think that includes his lightdm tweaks | 15:16 |
| mterry | oh it does, just in a different place... | 15:17 |
| seb128 | mterry, wtf | 15:17 |
| mterry | so now i have to wonder how to get it to apply... | 15:17 |
| seb128 | mterry, so your ppa package rebuild locally works...is there any chance the i386 ppa build built with the old accountsservice and that's creating issues or something | 15:17 |
| mterry | seb128, I can't see how... doesn't need its headers or dbus api or anything beforehand | 15:18 |
| mvo | ronoc: if the python-packagekit recommends get lowered to suggests, that should be all that is needed to fix it | 15:18 |
| mterry | seb128, does it also fix the switching layouts issue? :) /me hopes | 15:19 |
| seb128 | mterry, on the greeter? I can't tell, I don't want to reboot now | 15:19 |
| ronoc | mvo, ok probably doesn't make a difference but for the record I'm not using python | 15:19 |
| didrocks | seiflotfy: do you kow if m4n1sh will get around soon? I think we need an activity-log-manager release with the COPYING issue fixed if we want to push it to main (and preferably the gtk warning/treeview issues fixed as well) | 15:19 |
| seb128 | mterry, I lost your lightdm changes when I fixed lightdm yesterday and didn't restart since I got the new update from the ppa so I'm running the archive version | 15:20 |
| ronoc | mvo, it would be nice to get this today, any chance you could fix that and kenvandine can try the release again | 15:20 |
| mterry | seb128, no problem. all that's needed is liblightdm-gobject, so just having unity-greeter restart is enough | 15:20 |
| seb128 | mterry, ok, that I can try | 15:21 |
| m4n1sh | didrocks: back. so it is not pushed in main yet? | 15:23 |
| m4n1sh | didrocks: since it is uploaded to repos, so is FF applicable? | 15:23 |
| seb128 | mterry, yeah, that fixed it | 15:23 |
| m4n1sh | since this release is bug fix | 15:23 |
| seb128 | mterry, so dunno wth with the ppa build | 15:23 |
| didrocks | m4n1sh: no, but putting in main requires to meet the FF | 15:24 |
| m4n1sh | oh noes | 15:24 |
| didrocks | m4n1sh: and there is no official release with the fixed copyright file, so I can't ask for a MIR | 15:24 |
| didrocks | m4n1sh: as you have that in trunk, can you cut a release with it? | 15:25 |
| m4n1sh | I fixed COPYING, the binary name issue | 15:25 |
| m4n1sh | yes | 15:25 |
| didrocks | m4n1sh: I'll push and harass mterry so that he can review the MIR | 15:25 |
| m4n1sh | but there are two open bugs | 15:25 |
| didrocks | great :) | 15:25 |
| didrocks | hum, which ones? | 15:25 |
| didrocks | (the desktop files are fixed) | 15:25 |
| didrocks | ? | 15:25 |
| m4n1sh | yes | 15:25 |
| m4n1sh | i checked it in a VM | 15:25 |
| m4n1sh | works | 15:25 |
| m4n1sh | two bug fixes are about application tab | 15:25 |
| m4n1sh | i can fix it now | 15:26 |
| m4n1sh | which leads to crash | 15:26 |
| m4n1sh | and other in history tab, which is mostly about wrong error messages | 15:26 |
| didrocks | m4n1sh: ok, tell me when you will have processed the release then :) | 15:26 |
| m4n1sh | trying in 2 hrs | 15:26 |
| didrocks | thanks :) | 15:26 |
| mterry | seb128, OK, with your manual build then, the only bug is the user-switching one? That's not bad | 15:26 |
| seb128 | mterry, yes | 15:27 |
| m4n1sh | parallel clothes washing and bug fixing.. oh boy | 15:27 |
| seb128 | mterry, I feel uneasy about the ppa build stuff though | 15:27 |
| seb128 | mterry, did you try g-s-d from the ppa or your local build? | 15:27 |
| mterry | seb128, I'm currently on the PPA | 15:27 |
| mterry | seb128, no break that I can see | 15:27 |
| seb128 | mterry, though I don't understand how the ppa could make any difference | 15:27 |
| mvo | ronoc: let me talk to ximion (in #Packagekit) about the best course of action then I can do aupload | 15:28 |
| ronoc | mvo, thanks | 15:28 |
| seb128 | mterry, there are some warnings like /build/buildd/gnome-settings-daemon-3.2.2/plugins/keyboard/gsd-keyboard-manager.c:130: warning: undefined reference to `XkbKeysymToModifiers' | 15:28 |
| mterry | seb128, oh wait! I just killed gnome-settings-daemon and got your bug | 15:28 |
| seb128 | but that's nothing that could create that... | 15:28 |
| mterry | seb128, so maybe I was on a local build after all and just now switched to the PPA one | 15:29 |
| seb128 | mterry, ok, so ppa is b0rked, next question: "why"? | 15:29 |
| mvo | ronoc: did you see the reply from glatzor? that sounded encouraging, didn't it? | 15:29 |
| mterry | seb128, I will start a rebuild and at least see if it's a Heisenberg | 15:29 |
| ronoc | mvo, yep just responding now. I have already done everything he suggested, will do the renaming/refactoring object name after FF | 15:30 |
| mterry | brb | 15:32 |
| mvo | ronoc: cool - so that leaves some bugs, right? i.e. you don't always see signals? | 15:32 |
| ronoc | mvo, no I think it's fine | 15:33 |
| ronoc | mvo, afaict from my testing last week it seemed good to go | 15:33 |
| ronoc | mvo, it's the packaging | 15:33 |
| ronoc | *just | 15:33 |
| ronoc | deps | 15:33 |
| seb128 | mterry, ok, got it | 15:35 |
| ronoc | mvo, mpt agreed to drop the requirement to represent 'updates installing' | 15:35 |
| ronoc | that made my life a hell of alot easier | 15:35 |
| ronoc | i.e. didn't have to bother with transactions | 15:35 |
| seb128 | mterry, easy one ;-) | 15:35 |
| mterry | seb128, oh good! | 15:35 |
| seb128 | mterry, the ppa build has "App indicator support: no" | 15:35 |
| mterry | heh! | 15:36 |
| seb128 | mterry, I think something with the recent transitions | 15:36 |
| mterry | why.... h, | 15:36 |
| mterry | OK, so on that theory, the rebuild will be better | 15:36 |
| seb128 | mterry, I wonder if it works locally because I still have an old lib or something | 15:36 |
| mterry | Oh, you think it needs a configure.ac change | 15:36 |
| seb128 | yes | 15:36 |
| mvo | ronoc: ok, new PK is uploaded | 15:38 |
| pitti | didrocks: impressive compiz changelog! | 15:38 |
| mvo | ronoc: aha, nice to hear :) | 15:38 |
| didrocks | pitti: 4 months of upstream work :) | 15:38 |
| mterry | seb128, part of the configure script is checking for the gtk2 version, part is checking for the gtk3 one | 15:38 |
| ronoc | mvo, sweet thanks a mill :) | 15:38 |
| ronoc | kenvandine, ^^ | 15:38 |
| ronoc | session restart brb | 15:39 |
| kenvandine | mvo, ronoc: thx | 15:39 |
| mvo | ta | 15:40 |
| mvo | eh | 15:40 |
| mvo | yw | 15:40 |
| mvo | you know what I mean :) | 15:40 |
| seb128 | mterry, I don't get why it worked before | 15:41 |
| mterry | seb128, OK, I have a keyboard3 packaging building in PPA that I will ping you to try later. Should fix the indicator thing | 15:41 |
| seb128 | mterry, in auto case it checks for the gtk2 version | 15:41 |
| mterry | seb128, a dep probably pulled in libappindicator-dev | 15:41 |
| seb128 | mterry, yeah, must be | 15:42 |
| seb128 | mterry, thanks! | 15:42 |
| seb128 | mterry, I'm glad we sorted it ;-) | 15:42 |
| mterry | me too | 15:42 |
| * mterry now looks at theming problem | 15:42 | |
| * mterry wishes things would stay fixed | 15:42 | |
| seb128 | mterry, oh, I know what changed | 15:43 |
| seb128 | mterry, the gtk3 indicator-dev used to depends on the gtk2 one since they had the .h common for both version | 15:43 |
| mterry | ah... | 15:44 |
| seb128 | mterry, that got fixed last week, they each have their .h now | 15:44 |
| seb128 | ok, great, mystery solved ;-) | 15:44 |
| mterry | That doesn't seem right (sharing a .h). But I probably did that patch originally... My bad :) | 15:44 |
| * seb128 back to updating g-s-d to 3.3 | 15:44 | |
| seb128 | stupid question | 15:46 |
| pitti | mvo: hm, I don't understand your packagekit change -- shouldn't packages which need the API depend on PK | aptdaemon-pkcompat? | 15:46 |
| seb128 | but how do I bzr bd-do to refresh my patches nowadays? | 15:46 |
| pitti | seb128: you mean in an UDD branch? | 15:46 |
| seb128 | it refuses to log me into the shell because one patch fails to apply ... which is exactly why I want to log in, to refresh it | 15:46 |
| seb128 | pitti, no, ubuntu-desktop debian only types | 15:47 |
| seb128 | bzr bd-do fails because one of the patches doesn't apply | 15:47 |
| pitti | eww | 15:47 |
| seb128 | how do I refresh patches then? | 15:47 |
| seb128 | I guess that's rather an #ubuntu-devel question | 15:47 |
| pitti | hm, I don't see a --dont-apply-patches-dammit option | 15:48 |
| pitti | seb128: you could manually unpack the tarballs with tar xf ../foo.tar.bz --str=1 | 15:48 |
| pitti | refresh the patches, and then "bzr clean-tree --ignored --unknown" again | 15:48 |
| pitti | but again, eww | 15:48 |
| seb128 | pitti, well I'm rm debian/patches/series; bzr bd-do; bzr revert debian/patches/series | 15:48 |
| seb128 | but that sucks | 15:48 |
| pitti | yes | 15:49 |
| seb128 | well rather comment the patches from the serie and uncomment | 15:49 |
| seb128 | but that's ridiculously stupid to do ;-) | 15:49 |
| pitti | mvo: oh, it's for the library, I see | 15:50 |
| mterry | tedg, ah, I see his branch. I think I like mine slightly better, but I'm probably just being biased. I don't care which gets implemented, but that decision should probably happen soon, because I don't want to distro-patch the wrong one and end up with a dead-end gsettings value | 15:53 |
| * tedg sets up the octagon ... mterry, charles_, fight! | 15:58 | |
| tedg | Of course I mean the octagon of love. This is a family IRC channel. | 15:59 |
| mterry | tedg, yeah, I would think instead of an octagon, we hug it out in the circle of friends | 15:59 |
| didrocks | seb128: you can bzr bd-do | 16:01 |
| didrocks | wait it to fail | 16:01 |
| didrocks | cd ../build-area/<your_project> | 16:01 |
| didrocks | quilt push/pop whatever you need | 16:01 |
| didrocks | and cp the patch… | 16:01 |
| seb128 | didrocks, I like my edit series still better :p | 16:02 |
| didrocks | :p | 16:02 |
| seb128 | at least it copies all the diff over for me | 16:02 |
| didrocks | yeah | 16:02 |
| seb128 | but thanks ;-) | 16:02 |
| didrocks | yw ;) | 16:02 |
| didrocks | mterry: ok, ready now, too longer than expected | 16:02 |
| didrocks | mterry: so, you want me to dist-upgrade from the ubuntu-desktop and try lightdm/keybindings? | 16:02 |
| tedg | jono, I think mterry has found a new UDS activity... we set up a circle of friends, get those blow up sumo suits, and we use it to decide "hard conversations" | 16:03 |
| mterry | didrocks, hold off on that for a sec | 16:03 |
| mterry | didrocks, new package building | 16:03 |
| mterry | tedg, heh | 16:04 |
| didrocks | |o| | 16:04 |
| mterry | didrocks, what's that mean? :) | 16:05 |
| jono | tedg, lol | 16:06 |
| mterry | Is amd64 in bad shape in the archive? getting various unmet dependencies | 16:06 |
| didrocks | mterry: I hold up my arms, don't touch the keyboard anymore :) | 16:06 |
| seb128 | didrocks, we figured the issue so there is less need for another tester | 16:06 |
| didrocks | ah great :) | 16:06 |
| tedg | mterry, Woodpecker has put a whole in his tree, away from keyboard to get shotgun. | 16:06 |
| mvo | pitti: yeah, just the libs to avoid that they pull in pk | 16:06 |
| mterry | tedg, heh | 16:06 |
| tedg | hole | 16:06 |
| mterry | seb128, you on i386? that build succeeded | 16:07 |
| seb128 | mterry, yes | 16:07 |
| === charles_ is now known as charles | ||
| mterry | try keyboard3 | 16:07 |
| seb128 | mterry, but I'm pretty sure that was the indicator stuff being disabled | 16:07 |
| seb128 | mterry, you would feel better if I try the update from the ppa still? ;-) | 16:07 |
| charles | mterry, tedg: I don't mind which branch gets used, I kind of like my branch o/c :) | 16:07 |
| mterry | seb128, yeah :) This one says "App indicator support: yes" so just want to confirm it works | 16:08 |
| charles | I thought I marked the ticket as "in progress" though -- I'm not sure why the duplication of effort happened? | 16:08 |
| seb128 | mterry, ok, I will test it, but only because it's you! ;-) | 16:08 |
| mterry | charles, this is why we need sumo suits! Yeah, sorry, I had the work item from UDS, but I never saw the bug | 16:08 |
| charles | is there something else I needed to do to flag the ticket to avoid duplication? :) | 16:08 |
| charles | mterry: ah, ok | 16:08 |
| mterry | charles, just that the bug and blueprint never got connected | 16:09 |
| mterry | tedg, check his branch first, since I'm pretty sure this was my mistake and it looks like his branch fixes some other stuff too? :) | 16:10 |
| seb128 | mterry, hum, I wonder why the amd64 builders are unhappy | 16:13 |
| pitti | seb128: failing on build depends? | 16:14 |
| pitti | http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/testing/precise_probs.html | 16:14 |
| pitti | might be the fontconfig upload | 16:14 |
| charles | I think I like my branch a little better since it binds directly to the gsettings. mterry's is a smaller patch though, and should work, so they're both good | 16:14 |
| pitti | fontconfig is built on all arches, so I hope it'll clear up in some 20 mins | 16:14 |
| pitti | if it's not that, I need to dig deeper | 16:15 |
| seb128 | pitti, seems to be | 16:15 |
| seb128 | pitti, danke | 16:15 |
| seb128 | mterry, I'm an happy man again, thanks ;-) | 16:15 |
| seb128 | (the ppa build works fine) | 16:16 |
| mterry | seb128, yay! | 16:16 |
| mterry | so I'll push once I figure the theme. Can fix the scrolling thing later, I think I know what that is anyway | 16:16 |
| Sweetshark | pitti: how come that even though: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/libxml-openoffice.org there is no libxml-java-openoffice.org to be found in my pbuilder? | 16:23 |
| Sweetshark | (and yes, I added a universe line the sources.list) | 16:25 |
| pitti | seb128: precise_probs back to normal, now mostly compiz-y stuff | 16:27 |
| seb128 | pitti, great, thanks | 16:27 |
| pitti | Sweetshark: it existed until oneiric, not in precise any more | 16:27 |
| Sweetshark | pitti: ugh, doh! | 16:28 |
| Sweetshark | pitti: I keep mixing up release names again and again. | 16:28 |
| pitti | https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/libxml-openoffice.org/+changelog | 16:29 |
| pitti | Sweetshark: ^ It was removed from Debian and we followed suit | 16:29 |
| pitti | it had no reverse dependencies any more | 16:29 |
| pitti | Sweetshark: if we need it back, we can reintroduce it | 16:29 |
| pitti | but it does smell pretty stale | 16:30 |
| Sweetshark | no, actually we need the "libxml-java" source package from debian ... | 16:31 |
| pitti | compiz failing on many arches doesn't help installability, of course | 16:31 |
| pitti | Sweetshark: ah, fun; that was also removed a while ago, so it's back now? | 16:31 |
| pitti | Sweetshark: syncing | 16:32 |
| Sweetshark | pitti: yes, that and a bunchload of other java-related stuff | 16:32 |
| ricotz | Sweetshark, hey, this doesnt sound like fun having it backported to lucid :\ | 16:33 |
| pitti | Sweetshark: ah, needed unblacklisting (done now), that needs some time to propagate | 16:33 |
| pitti | Sweetshark: I'll sync it tomorrow | 16:34 |
| Sweetshark | ricotz: disable reportbuilder then? | 16:35 |
| Sweetshark | pitti: same for the flute source package, I guess? | 16:36 |
| pitti | Sweetshark: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/flute/+changelog | 16:36 |
| pitti | that should be published | 16:36 |
| pitti | Sweetshark: but it's in universe | 16:36 |
| pitti | Sweetshark: it's new, so needs an MIR if you need it | 16:37 |
| Sweetshark | pitti: ah, right. then there is is source pentaho-reporting-flow-engine, which seems to be missing from precise | 16:38 |
| pitti | https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/pentaho-reporting-flow-engine/+changelog | 16:38 |
| pitti | Deleted in karmic-release (Reason: renamed to pentaho-reporting-flow-engine-openoffice.org) | 16:38 |
| pitti | Sweetshark: unblacklisted, added to sync TODO list | 16:39 |
| Sweetshark | pitti: and source liblayout also missing from precise | 16:40 |
| ricotz | Sweetshark, i noticed this conversation, so havent actually looked at it yet | 16:40 |
| ronoc | mterry, hey | 16:41 |
| ronoc | just trying to apply a patch to lightdm at the mo | 16:41 |
| pitti | Sweetshark: added to TODO | 16:41 |
| mterry | ronoc, ok | 16:41 |
| ronoc | mterry, I get this http://paste.ubuntu.com/840568/ | 16:41 |
| ronoc | from unity-greeter trunk | 16:41 |
| pitti | Sweetshark: similar ones are jcommon-serializer, flute-1.3-jfree, librepository, libformula, libfonts-java | 16:41 |
| ronoc | mterry, I have installed lightdm from the desktop ppa | 16:41 |
| Sweetshark | pitti: I need librepository, libformula and libfonts too. | 16:42 |
| ronoc | mterry, should i branch from your branch to apply the patch there | 16:42 |
| pitti | Sweetshark: libformula sounds like a similar case | 16:42 |
| ronoc | it's a small patch | 16:42 |
| ronoc | mterry, will not conflict with your work | 16:42 |
| mterry | ronoc, I fixed that already... | 16:42 |
| pitti | Sweetshark: libfonts-java is not in Debian again | 16:42 |
| ronoc | hence why i would like to do from trunk | 16:42 |
| mterry | should be in unity-greeter trunk | 16:42 |
| ronoc | hmmm | 16:42 |
| ronoc | ok ill pull again | 16:42 |
| mterry | ronoc, let me doulbe-confirm | 16:43 |
| pitti | Sweetshark: sorry, mis-looked | 16:43 |
| mterry | ronoc, sorry, I think I forgot to push :( Will do so now | 16:43 |
| ronoc | mterry, sound | 16:44 |
| Sweetshark | pitti: and MIR for libbase | 16:44 |
| pitti | Sweetshark: so, flute-1.3-jfree again? | 16:44 |
| mterry | ronoc, done | 16:46 |
| ronoc | mterry, thanks | 16:46 |
| mterry | (r285) | 16:46 |
| ronoc | mterry, compiling now fine, thanks | 16:47 |
| Sweetshark | pitti: http://packages.debian.org/source/sid/flute | 16:48 |
| pitti | Sweetshark: ack | 16:49 |
| pitti | good night everyone! | 16:49 |
| Sweetshark | pitti: hey there! dont leave, without a big "thank you!" | 16:52 |
| Sweetshark | pitti: ;) | 16:52 |
| Sweetshark | pitti: four more: pentaho-reporting-flow-engine needs a sync and sacjava, libserializer and libbase a MIR | 17:02 |
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| desrt | DBO: hey. how persistent are bamfwindow structs? | 17:25 |
| desrt | do they drop when i unref them or do they drop when the window stops existing? | 17:25 |
| lifeless | RAOF: pastebin the confi, let me see. | 17:37 |
| didrocks | have a good evening everyone | 18:07 |
| m4n1sh | seb128: there? | 18:24 |
| seb128 | m4n1sh, yes | 18:24 |
| m4n1sh | I am getting this issue at console | 18:25 |
| m4n1sh | Gtk-WARNING **: Failed to set text from markup due to error parsing markup: Error on line 1: Entity did not end with a semicolon; most likely you used an ampersand character without intending to start an entity - escape ampersand as & | 18:25 |
| m4n1sh | I see a lot of bugs with this warning | 18:25 |
| m4n1sh | is it some issue with Gtk or the code? | 18:25 |
| seb128 | m4n1sh, the code | 18:25 |
| seb128 | you don't properly escape strings you use in a markup function | 18:25 |
| m4n1sh | you mean set_markup ? | 18:25 |
| seb128 | it's like if you had invalid html syntax in an html document | 18:25 |
| seb128 | m4n1sh, well any label which is in markup format yes | 18:26 |
| m4n1sh | checking | 18:26 |
| seb128 | m4n1sh, gtk_set_label_markup for example | 18:26 |
| seb128 | mterry, wb! | 18:26 |
| mterry | seb128, heh, went for lunch and forgot to re-launch IRC | 18:27 |
| mterry | seb128, did I miss anything? | 18:27 |
| m4n1sh | seb128: yes. Looking at any such | 18:27 |
| seb128 | mterry, you missed me looking for you ;-) | 18:27 |
| mterry | seb128, what's up? | 18:27 |
| seb128 | mterry, so... | 18:27 |
| seb128 | mterry, when do you plan to update those ppa versions of yours? at least accountsservice and g-s-d | 18:28 |
| mterry | seb128, you mean upload? | 18:28 |
| mterry | seb128, I just uploaded accountsservice and lightdm | 18:28 |
| seb128 | mterry, I've a g-s-d 3.3.5 test package I want to push to the ppa which needs to go with an unity-greeter upload | 18:28 |
| seb128 | mterry, but I'm trying to avoid too much different testing versions around so I would like yours to be mainlined first | 18:28 |
| mterry | seb128, fixed the switch-user thing btw | 18:28 |
| seb128 | great | 18:29 |
| mterry | seb128, right. I'm mainlining them now. I can push g-s-d and will roll a release of unity-greeter 0.2.1 and push it in | 18:29 |
| seb128 | great, thanks | 18:29 |
| mterry | seb128, will ping you when done | 18:29 |
| seb128 | mterry, I'm pondering trying to get you to rush a small fix in 0.2.1 ;-) | 18:29 |
| mterry | seb128, OK, shoot | 18:30 |
| seb128 | mterry, so, small issue which becomes a problem thanks to desrt | 18:30 |
| seb128 | g-s-d 3.3 renamed org.gnome.settings-daemon.plugins.wacom to org.gnome.settings-daemon.plugins.gsdwacom | 18:31 |
| mterry | seb128, ah, easy fix. sure | 18:31 |
| seb128 | which of course leads unity-greeter to abort | 18:31 |
| seb128 | mterry, well, easy "fix", I plan to do an upload with the rename in the ppa | 18:31 |
| mterry | seb128, man, why would they make that change... | 18:31 |
| seb128 | mterry, the real fix would be make settings-daemon.vala check if schemas exist before trying to use them | 18:32 |
| seb128 | to avoid any exit on broken schemas | 18:32 |
| seb128 | mterry, yeah, that's a stupid thing to do to start with, thanks bastien... | 18:32 |
| seb128 | mterry, don't bother for that version, I will use a breaks and do an unity-greeter matching upload | 18:33 |
| mterry | seb128, but if I'm going to mainline 0.2.1... why bother fixing it in PPA? | 18:33 |
| seb128 | mterry, because g-s-d 3.3 is a to test, we stayed on 3.2 until now | 18:33 |
| seb128 | and you will hit the opposite problem if you upload the rename with g-s-d 3.2 | 18:33 |
| seb128 | the name will mismatch the other way around | 18:33 |
| seb128 | the real fix would be to skip invalid schemas | 18:33 |
| mterry | seb128, right. So what's the fix you want in 0.2.1? the skip invalid? | 18:33 |
| seb128 | if possible | 18:34 |
| mterry | seb128, so I can certainly do that, but there will still need to be some coordination for the release, else gsdwacom will suddenly be enabled in unity-greeter. But regardless of that, I suppose it makes sense to avoid an abort | 18:35 |
| seb128 | mterry, well you could list both if we don't abort on missing schemas ;-) | 18:35 |
| mterry | seb128, oh yeah. :) | 18:36 |
| mterry | That's TWO changes seb128 | 18:36 |
| seb128 | lol | 18:36 |
| seb128 | indeed! | 18:36 |
| seb128 | mterry, you know how to do the "handle missing schemas"? | 18:36 |
| mterry | I believe so | 18:36 |
| seb128 | basically it should be check if the schemas is in g_settings_list_schemas (); | 18:36 |
| seb128 | if not skip it | 18:36 |
| seb128 | mterry, ok, since that's 2 changes you win 2 beers if you get that in your upload ;-) | 18:37 |
| mterry | I have to list all? Is this some plot of desrt's to discourage people from doing this crap? | 18:37 |
| seb128 | mterry, yeah, I believe so :-( | 18:38 |
| cyphermox | seb128: re webkit, did you test the linker flags that are supposed to help? fwiw I tried --no-keep-memory and bluez builds locally, with a ulimit -Hv 3700000 | 18:38 |
| mterry | seb128, he should have made it harder to rename schemas then | 18:38 |
| cyphermox | seb128: seems to peek at around 2.7 G memory or so when linking libwebkitgtk | 18:38 |
| seb128 | cyphermox, bluez? | 18:39 |
| cyphermox | seb128: ignore me, I just noticed I did something incredibly stupid in testing this | 18:39 |
| cyphermox | seb128: what about bluez? | 18:39 |
| seb128 | cyphermox, no I didn't yet, I delayed that to after ff | 18:39 |
| seb128 | cyphermox, you wrote "--no-keep-memory and bluez builds locally" | 18:39 |
| mterry | seb128, there's also g_settings_schema_source_lookup | 18:39 |
| cyphermox | seb128: thinko. :) | 18:39 |
| seb128 | mterry, it's not on http://developer.gnome.org/gio/unstable/GSettings.html ? | 18:40 |
| seb128 | cyphermox, I didn't try yet in any case, it picks a bit over 3g without it, but your testing is appreciated | 18:41 |
| mterry | seb128, http://developer.gnome.org/gio/unstable/gio-GSettingsSchema-GSettingsSchemaSource.html | 18:41 |
| seb128 | cyphermox, you say the testing is not correct? let me know if you try again | 18:41 |
| cyphermox | seb128: I will in a minute | 18:41 |
| seb128 | mterry, oh ok, thanks | 18:41 |
| cyphermox | seb128: let me know if I can spare cycles again to help with this | 18:41 |
| seb128 | cyphermox, well if you want to help you are most than welcome | 18:42 |
| cyphermox | the issue is that I was building on amd64 instead of i386 | 18:42 |
| seb128 | ok | 18:43 |
| seb128 | you should still see if the option helps there I guess | 18:43 |
| seb128 | jbicha, ricotz: ok, I've a working g-s-d 3.3.5 with a fixed unity-greeter, I will upload to ppa, do a bug with details for review, email etc later | 18:44 |
| seb128 | jbicha, ricotz: I'm waiting first for mterry to clear up the ppa and upload his g-s-d and unity-greeter to precise | 18:44 |
| mterry | seb128, you need the new unity-greeter specifically? I can update g-s-d now, but will have to squeeze in some changes for unity-greeter (am going to try to fix the drag-window-by-menubar too | 18:45 |
| sil2100 | Hi | 18:46 |
| sil2100 | I would like to test out https://bugs.launchpad.net/compiz-core/+bug/864478 | 18:46 |
| ubot2` | Launchpad bug 864478 in unity "Window shading is broken" [High,Fix released] | 18:46 |
| seb128 | mterry, not if you are fine with me upload unity-greeter in the ppa with wacom->gsdwacom stuff to get with my gsd | 18:46 |
| sil2100 | The description there says to modify '/apps/compiz-1/gwd/titlebar_action', but I don't see that in gconf settings | 18:46 |
| seb128 | mterry, just be careful to not sneak the rename in the archive later on | 18:46 |
| seb128 | sil2100, try #ubuntu-unity | 18:46 |
| seb128 | sil2100, didrocks called it a day and nobody else has been looking at those issues, you have a better chance with the unity,compiz guys on #ubuntu-unity | 18:47 |
| seb128 | sil2100, #ubuntu-unity is the right channel for unity question anyway since that's where you will find the people working on the code | 18:47 |
| sil2100 | Understood | 18:47 |
| mterry | seb128, that's fine. I don't need further testing for unity-greeter in the PPA | 18:47 |
| seb128 | mterry, ok, thanks | 18:47 |
| mterry | seb128, so I'll update g-s-d now then in archive | 18:48 |
| seb128 | mterry, I'm out for dinner, if you upload your g-s-d version to precise I will upload mine later | 18:48 |
| seb128 | mterry, excellent, thanks! | 18:48 |
| mterry | cool | 18:48 |
| mterry | have a good dinner | 18:48 |
| seb128 | thanks ;-) | 18:48 |
| ricotz | seb128, alright, looking forward to it | 19:05 |
| ricotz | mterry, ^ :) | 19:05 |
| mterry | :) | 19:05 |
| DBO | desrt, bamf owns the ref | 19:27 |
| desrt | to me that says "this lives forever" | 19:28 |
| ricotz | DBO, hey | 19:29 |
| DBO | hey ricotz | 19:29 |
| ricotz | DBO, are there plans to enable the introspection build for bamf again? | 19:29 |
| DBO | desrt, it lives until bamf decides it shouldn't live | 19:29 |
| DBO | ricotz, uhhhh I think so | 19:30 |
| desrt | DBO: so i should take a ref on it is what you're saying :) | 19:30 |
| ricotz | DBO, i was hoping to get some official vala bindings instead of handwriting them ;) | 19:30 |
| ricotz | desrt, hey, are you playing with bamf in vala? | 19:32 |
| DBO | desrt, yes | 19:32 |
| desrt | ricotz: i wish :) | 19:32 |
| DBO | ricotz, I'll ask thomi about it today | 19:32 |
| ricotz | hmm, i am avoiding taking refs on views :\ | 19:33 |
| broder | who should i bother about looking at bug #682338? it's been sitting in the sponsor queue for over a month | 19:33 |
| ubot2` | Launchpad bug 682338 in libcairo "GTK programs in Ubuntu 10.10 are sluggish over NX" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/682338 | 19:33 |
| ricotz | desrt, DBO, http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~docky-core/plank/trunk/view/head:/vapi/bamf.vapi | 19:33 |
| broder | my original thought was to figure out how to detect NX in particular, but i can't find any way to distinguish it from the X server it was forked from | 19:33 |
| DBO | ricotz, you dont *have* to take a ref | 19:33 |
| DBO | but if you dont it will die on its own when you get a closed signal | 19:33 |
| ricotz | DBO, yeah, i guess i am hitting this problem | 19:34 |
| seb128 | broder, you can upload if you feel like taking responsability for the change ;-) | 19:37 |
| broder | seb128: well, i think the implications of the change are fairly well documented: if someone were to happen to use the patched cairo with a *really* old X server, it might crash | 19:38 |
| seb128 | broder, the issue is, what happens if you i.e ssh -X from a debian stable system? | 19:38 |
| broder | debian oldstable isn't old enough to trigger this bug, IIRC | 19:39 |
| mterry | stgraber, heyo. Is edubuntu ready for a gsettings unity-greeter? | 19:39 |
| seb128 | broder, ok, I can upload that | 19:39 |
| seb128 | broder, I will do it today | 19:39 |
| stgraber | mterry: no, but upload anyway, I'll take care of it this afternoon so it's fixed for our next daily | 19:39 |
| broder | seb128: instead of the patch that's there, i might change src/cairo-xlib-display.c instead to not set ->buggy_repeat = TRUE in the first place | 19:40 |
| mterry | stgraber, cool | 19:40 |
| seb128 | broder, if you want to add a new patch to the bug please do | 19:40 |
| broder | seb128: i can make that adjustment and do the upload; i just wasn't comfortable with making the judgement call on whether the patch was conceptually acceptable | 19:40 |
| seb128 | broder, or feel free to upload, I think the fix is fine | 19:40 |
| broder | ok. i'll double-check that debian oldstable isn't old enough to be problematic | 19:40 |
| seb128 | broder, I think we should be fine and we are early enough in the cycle to change that if there are issues | 19:41 |
| broder | seb128: awesome, thanks. i'll take care of it later this evening then | 19:41 |
| seb128 | broder, debian oldstable has xorg 7.3 it seems and the fdo bug mention 6.9 | 19:41 |
| seb128 | broder, thanks | 19:41 |
| desrt | DBO: please fix your bamf docs... | 19:51 |
| desrt | RAOF: more input issues :/ | 20:30 |
| desrt | RAOF: the mouse cursor is often 'getting stuck' | 20:31 |
| desrt | usually (but not always) near the boundaries of displays | 20:31 |
| desrt | happens maybe 50% of the time | 20:31 |
| desrt | pulling the mouse back and 'trying again' is often enough to unstick it | 20:32 |
| mterry | seb128, ronoc, stgraber: released and uploaded unity-greeter 0.2.1 | 20:39 |
| stgraber | mterry: thanks, will update edubuntu-artwork and upload | 20:40 |
| ronoc | mterry, good stuff | 20:43 |
| Beret | qq so I don't file bugs for no reason - is the current build of unity in precise known to be broken? | 21:07 |
| seb128 | Beret, how broken? | 21:12 |
| Beret | seb128, keyboard shortcuts for changing desktops ignored | 21:29 |
| Beret | I file #931698 | 21:29 |
| seb128 | ok | 21:30 |
| RAOF | desrt: Can you be more specific? Unity's use of barriers on the screen edges could do something like that. | 21:38 |
| desrt | RAOF: since you mention it, i did switch to unity at the same time i did dist-upgrade | 21:39 |
| desrt | but it's not consistent | 21:39 |
| desrt | sometimes it happens, sometimes not | 21:39 |
| desrt | and it happens going both ways... not just when there's a panel there | 21:39 |
| RAOF | Dependent on how fast you're moving your pointer? :) | 21:39 |
| RAOF | Yeah, both ways is a bug. | 21:40 |
| RAOF | Allow me to propose a merge to fix that. | 21:40 |
| RAOF | lifeless: http://paste.ubuntu.com/840954/ is the config; throwing away /var/cache/squid-deb-proxy allows it to start annd work. Presumably that's a result of a corrupt cache going weird? I've got the original (broken) cache available. | 21:40 |
| desrt | RAOF: it seems to semi-depend on speed? | 21:40 |
| desrt | it happens a bit less often if i go really fast | 21:40 |
| desrt | is this seriously a feature? | 21:41 |
| RAOF | It was more of a feature when the launcher wasn't always visible. | 21:41 |
| desrt | maybe they should drop it now? | 21:42 |
| RAOF | Or at least turn off the barriers when it's not autohiding. | 21:42 |
| desrt | indeed | 21:42 |
| desrt | gnome-shell fixed that issue back in the late days of 3.0 by turning off autohide for multiple monitors | 21:42 |
| RAOF | It's useful when the launcher *is* being autohidden. | 21:42 |
| desrt | ya. i can imagine | 21:44 |
| desrt | hitting the 1 pixel required to show it would be pretty tricky otherwise | 21:45 |
| dobey | is there any way to turn off the launcher/panel on my second monitor, completely? | 21:45 |
| dobey | desrt: does gnome-shell put the dock on all screens too? | 21:47 |
| desrt | no | 21:47 |
| desrt | it doesn't even put one on the main screen except when in overview | 21:48 |
| desrt | it takes the minimalist approach to chrome | 21:48 |
| dobey | so the mouse thing was only an issue in gnome-shell if you had a screen to the left of the main screen i guess? | 21:50 |
| lifeless | RAOF: yes, thats weird - file a squid bug upstream :) | 21:50 |
| Laney | kenvandine: yo, just finishing (imho) libproxy | 21:58 |
| Laney | will push after testing if you want to give it a whirl, and then i'll propose it to pkg-gnome | 21:58 |
| desrt | dobey: right, actually | 22:04 |
| TheMuso | /c/c | 22:04 |
| desrt | dobey: the dash never auto-hid | 22:04 |
| desrt | dobey: but the workspaces switcher did | 22:04 |
| desrt | and it's actually clever enough to only disable autohide if there is a monitor to the right of the main screen | 22:05 |
| desrt | (ie: only disabled if having it enabled would cause a problem) | 22:05 |
| dobey | ah | 22:05 |
| dobey | i really just want to get rid of all the shell bits on the non-primary screens. though i suppose with the way unity works, it's a bit hard for it to do that. however, having the launcher right in the middle is really annoying | 22:07 |
| desrt | ya.... particularly with those barriers | 22:09 |
| dobey | indeed. though the barrier tends to only be annoying for me, while dragging a window across screens | 22:10 |
| dobey | and the unlock screen popping up on whichever screen has the mouse on it when i move it, seems a bit weird as well. but eh | 22:14 |
| kenvandine | Laney, awesome | 22:20 |
| kenvandine | i can try to test it tomorrow | 22:21 |
| Laney | rock | 22:22 |
| * RAOF returns from some impromptu fglrx wrangling. | 22:26 | |
| RAOF | desrt, dobey: We really want the barriers when dragging windows - again, snap-to-maximise(/half-maximise) is much easier with such a target :) | 22:27 |
| RAOF | gnome-shell probably wants it as well :) | 22:27 |
| RAOF | (Also for the lower-right message tray, for vertical multi-head) | 22:29 |
| desrt | RAOF: we actually have the barrier in the message tray and top panel | 22:30 |
| desrt | so you aim for those targets if you want a half-maximised window | 22:30 |
| RAOF | Oh, ow. | 22:30 |
| RAOF | You've got an impenetrable barrier in the lower left? | 22:30 |
| RAOF | I mean, lower right. | 22:30 |
| desrt | not impenetrable | 22:31 |
| desrt | but pretty hard | 22:31 |
| RAOF | How does it get dropped? | 22:31 |
| RAOF | What's the behaviour for pushing through? | 22:31 |
| RAOF | Also, wouldn't it be nicer to just hit the side of the screen rather than opposite corners? | 22:32 |
| dobey | RAOF: but that is something i *never* want. and afaik, there's no way to turn it off | 22:33 |
| dobey | RAOF: all i want to do is turn it off. :) | 22:33 |
| RAOF | dobey: There's no way to turn it off, no. | 22:33 |
| RAOF | I'm working out if we can get better threshold information in the server, so it's easier to both deliberately go through and hit. | 22:34 |
| dobey | i am more interested in just not having all the visual noise on my second screen though. the barrier i can deal with (at least i can as it is running right now, i guess i need to update and reboot again) | 22:35 |
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| Laney | kenvandine: ok, pushed: git://git.debian.org/git/users/laney/libproxy.git - you'll need to git-dch --auto | 22:40 |
| Laney | I attempted to multiarch it too, perhaps you could review that | 22:41 |
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