[00:11] ugh. libneon is messed up. [00:12] desrt: again ? :0 [00:12] lifeless: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/neon27/+bug/845901 [00:12] Launchpad bug 845901 in neon27 "libneon can't find SSLv2_server_method" [Undecided,Confirmed] [00:14] it's pretty seriously messed up. i'm surprised it builds at all. [00:14] it's using a function that completely does not exist in any library [00:14] presumably it existed in libssl at some point but was removed [00:19] that should've been fixed many releases ago [00:22] IIRC we killed off SSLv2 in oneiric [00:22] http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=622140 btw [00:22] Debian bug 622140 in neon27 "neon27: symbol SSLv2_server_method used" [Serious,Open] [00:22] because i think i ran into a boost incompatibility issue [00:22] upgrading some of my software to oneiric [00:23] * micahg thought it was killed long before that === s9iper1 is now known as bil21al === bil21al is now known as s9iper1 === m_conley_away is now known as m_conley === m_conley is now known as m_conley_away [05:29] lifeless: Why would squid be dying with a SIGABRT when I try to start it? squid3 -k parse -f /etc/squid-deb-proxy/squid-deb-proxy.conf lists a couple of warnings, complains about not being able to write to /var/log/squid-deb-proxy, but otherwise completes successfully. [06:03] RAOF: so if its calling abort() it should log something first [06:04] FATAL: xcalloc: Unable to allocate 4154659762 blocks of 1 bytes! [06:04] Ah. [06:05] Hm. It's trying to allocate and zero 4GB of memory? [06:07] lifeless: http://paste.ubuntu.com/840056/ [06:12] Morning. [06:16] pitti: Good morning, Martin! Just replied on bug 930785. [06:16] Launchpad bug 930785 in language-selector "gnome-language-selector crashed with DBusException in call_blocking(): org.freedesktop.Accounts.Error.Failed: 'bg_BG.UTF-8' is not a valid locale name" [Undecided,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/930785 [06:17] hey GunnarHj [06:17] GunnarHj: right, but I wonder if there is a cleaner solution [06:18] pitti: Guess we can wait a while. It's not very urgent, I suppose. [06:23] good morning [06:27] hey didrocks, how are you? [06:27] pitti: I'm fine, thanks. And you, how was your week-end? [06:32] didrocks: quite fine, thanks! we visited our grandma, and had a nice birthday party [06:34] ah nice :) === Amaranthus is now known as Amaranth [06:51] GunnarHj: followed up to 930785 [07:13] RAOF: fun [07:13] pitti: Ok, then I'll write a patch with the 'locale -a' approach. [07:13] RAOF: a 27PB cache ?! [07:14] RAOF: that 4G alloc is probably happening for the hash table [07:14] RAOF: e.g. your config is insane === tkamppeter_ is now known as tkamppeter === rickspencer3_ is now known as rickspencer3 === Zdra is now known as xclaesse [09:00] hey [09:00] seb128: morning [09:01] hi czajkowski [09:05] bonjour seb128, ca va? [09:07] hey, pitti, ca va bien! et toi ? [09:07] seb128: je suis bien, merci! [09:07] seb128: did anything come up at the release team meeting? [09:08] pitti, no [09:08] I saw the fun with webkit, thanks for sorting this out [09:08] good morning everyone [09:09] hey chrhi [09:09] hey chrisccoulson, how are you? [09:09] hi pitti. i'm good thanks, how are you? [09:10] chrisccoulson: quite fine, thanks! had a nice long weekend [09:10] excellent :) [09:10] i had quite a busy weekend moving my desk and having everything set up and ready by this morning [09:11] chrisccoulson: oh, you have a new "office" room now? [09:11] yeah, i'm downstairs now. we've freed up the old room for my daughter [09:12] moving my desk downstairs was not much fun [09:26] seb128: hm, I'm trying to build glom, but libgdamm4.0-dev doesn't exist; wasn't there some effort to pacakge it? [09:27] pitti, dholbach has it in a ppa he asked for review on #ubuntu-devel last week I think [09:27] goocanvasmm as well [09:27] Laney said he would have a look iirc [09:27] better to check with them [09:27] ok, thanks; ignoring for now [10:00] pitti, there? [10:00] seb128: yes, I just spoke 2 mins ago :) ) [10:00] pitti, I want to chat about gnome-settings-daemon if you have a minute [10:01] seb128: what's up? [10:01] pitti, so, I've been looking at 3.4 compared to 3.2, I will do a second round today but with order of magnitude numbers are [10:02] hm, LP just went down? [10:02] - 350 commits, I would say: 150 are on wacom (new code, side feature), 100 on translations, 25 on xrandr (better support for docking station) [10:02] some 50 are bug fixes === rickspencer3_ is now known as rickspencer3 [10:03] right, I had to pull libwacom from jhbuild to build it [10:03] and there are like 15 less easy commits like keybindings to gsettings and dropping gconf plugin [10:03] I'm pondering going for 3.4, reverting the keybinding and gconf stuff [10:03] how crazy do you think that is? [10:03] is the latter a problem because unity or others still expect keybindings in gconf? [10:04] the other option is to backport some 25 (at least) commits [10:04] pitti, yes, compiz still use gconf [10:04] I just had assumed that it would require control-center 3.4, too [10:04] lifeless: How has that config gone crazy? It's unmodified from squid-deb-proxy defaults. [10:04] in fact the keybinding stuff is one commit [10:05] I think it should be easy enough to make it select gconf or gsettings at run time, which would maybe let update gnome-shell, I know they really would like the new version [10:05] pitti, c-c, I didn't see a reason why it would [10:05] they didn't change configuration keys or format [10:05] it's mostly bug fixing, wacom, keybinding on gsettings (to revert), xrandr better dock support [10:06] the other stuff sounds fine indeed [10:06] pitti, if you think that's not too crazy I will go ahead with a second round and do a detailled summary with diffstat, diff, etc in a bug report [10:06] and land it in a ppa for testing today if I can [10:06] seb128: I'd like to get cnd's review on the new package, how the new wacom stuff holds up with our multitouch patches [10:06] seb128: that sounds great [10:07] happy to test from u-desktop PPA [10:07] pitti, wacom is a separate dir, we can't just not build it if we don't want to [10:07] can't->can [10:07] like everything in gsd it's its own .so [10:07] we can easily drop it [10:07] ah, I see [10:07] I guess we have to for the first round [10:08] it's in universe, and too old [10:08] seb128: is it an optional build dep, or do we need to hack the makefiles? [10:08] seb128: if you want, I can update it to 0.2.1, if that helps [10:08] or tjaalton might want to [10:09] pitti, we need to hack the makefiles I think [10:09] GNOME don't want to make stuff customizable or optional nowadays, they want GNOME to be it's designed ;-) [10:10] pitti: libwacom? [10:10] tjaalton: yes [10:11] seb128: oh, it seems remmina-plugins is obsolete now, binaries are now built by remmina itself [10:11] * pitti cleans up [10:12] seb128: so, let's give that a try, if it's not too hard to do; I'm happy to test with my dock, too [10:13] pitti: I'll update it, 0.3 is ok? [10:14] pitti, ok, I will work on that today, still wanting to summarize where we go in details before update [10:14] tjaalton, that would be great, thanks [10:14] tjaalton: sure; but as I said, we can't use it in g-c-c right now (without a MIR at least) [10:14] if someone could actually test this with an actual wacom device, we could do a MIR [10:14] pitti: np, it'll be available at least [10:15] oh the wacom capplet? [10:15] I have an intuos4L [10:16] pitti, hi [10:17] pitti, jbicha dropped me an email where he mentioned he's wanting to file the mir for libwacom, he really wants the new g-s-d in ;-) [10:17] pitti, well the mir is not a blocker for ppa builds [10:17] hey tkamppeter [10:17] seb128: right [10:17] pitti, so I don't know need to bother for the testing round [10:17] seb128: you still need >= 0.2.1, though [10:18] pitti, right, tjaalton is fixing that for me apparently though :p [10:19] pitti, btw remmina 1.0, well done [10:20] we got it in time for ff ;-) [10:20] seb128: yeah I'd like to have the wacom gui as well :) [10:20] seb128: I'll seed it today once jdstrand gives the final ok for freerdp 1.0.1 [10:20] actually, I'll update the seeds right now [10:21] pitti, can you drop gnome-searchtools if we didn't yet? [10:21] pitti, gnome-search-tool [10:21] what's the replacement? [10:21] pitti, nothing, design said nautilus search and dash are enough searches [10:21] * gnome-screenshot [10:21] * gnome-search-tool [10:21] * gnome-system-log [10:21] * gnome-font-viewer [10:21] seb128: ah, right, nautilus search [10:21] ^ those are our gnome-utils right now [10:21] dropping search [10:22] pitti, gnome-screenshot is its own source in fact [10:22] but yeah [10:22] pitti, thanks [10:23] - * (vinagre) [10:23] pitti, they made standalone components for gnome-utils this cycle, I only bothered packaging gnome-screenshot though since the other ones didn't get any activity worth getting the new version [10:23] + * (remmina) [10:23] \o/ [10:23] remmina recommends: remmina-plugin-rdp, remmina-plugin-vnc [10:23] so that should suffice [10:23] seb128: right, I meant "what used to be -utils" [10:24] pitti, can you upload cups-filters into Debian and Ubuntu? Thanks. [10:25] pitti, right ;-) [10:26] tkamppeter: any chance to get a simple texttops back for the release critical bug? [10:27] pitti, will do so and release as 1.0.1 upstream. [10:27] hmmm, i definitely need to get a lock for this door [10:28] tkamppeter: should I wait for this to avoid two debian uploads in a row? [10:28] pitti, OK, wait for that. [10:40] seb128, while looking at g-c-c and g-s-d could you drop Makefile.in from patches? [10:40] ricotz, is that creating issues? [10:40] seb128, this cleans the patch a bit and an autoreconf it done anyway [10:40] ricotz, ok [10:40] thanks [10:40] yw [10:41] seb128, do you know if joss has a running gdm 3.2.1.1 in debian since it is in the svn [10:42] ricotz, not sure, ask him on #debian-gnome I guess [10:43] ah, didnt recall the nickname ;) [11:03] Sweetshark: hey Bjoern, wie gehts? [11:05] Sweetshark: the "libreoffice" metapackage depends: libreoffice-report-builder-bin, but report-builder was dropped, so these pacakges don't exist any more; can you please drop the dep? [11:17] hum, could people stop spamming the desktop list with weird discussions? ;-) [11:17] yeah, i was thinking the same thing too [11:22] you know when somebody references a scene from borat the discussion has lost all hope of ever being useful [11:24] lol === greyback is now known as greyback|lunch [12:18] rickspencer3: finally! http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/testing/precise_probs.html [12:25] Sweetshark: did you get my ping from earlier about the binfilter depends? [12:27] pitti: yes, I try to reenable building report-builder, just to see if it works. === MacSlow is now known as MacSlow|lunch [12:28] pitti: I guess that would require a FFE even if it would build *confused* (the FFE definitions dont map well to the libreoffice a-whole-distro-in-one-source-package world) [12:29] Sweetshark: hm, we had it before, though [12:29] seb128: do you happen to know about packaging lightdm-gtk-greeter? [12:29] pitti, being done by Debian, I will sync once it's uploaded [12:29] pitti, I can have a look to not wait on Debian this week if you want to but not today [12:29] pitti, it's mostly ready in the pkg-xfce vcs in Debian [12:30] pitti, http://anonscm.debian.org/viewvc/pkg-xfce/goodies/trunk/lightdm-gtk-greeter/debian/ [12:34] seb128: ah, thanks [12:35] pitti, ideally somebody from xubuntu or lubuntu who step up to maintain that greeter [12:35] since they use it and we don't... [12:35] right === greyback|lunch is now known as greyback [13:32] pitti: seems like some on the needed deps for report-builder got demoted to universe :( === MacSlow|lunch is now known as MacSlow [13:41] Sweetshark: don't worry, we'll re-promote it once it needs it again [13:46] bug 919659 <- oh, great. lets just kill 3.4 and backport 3.5 ... [13:46] Launchpad bug 919659 in libreoffice "[Downstream] Can't open/save spreadsheet with password" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/919659 [13:46] [13:50] good morning [13:51] hey jbicha, how are you? [13:53] I'm doing good, how was your weekend? [13:54] jbicha: it was really nice [13:55] remmina forgot to install its desktop file, it's fixed in trunk now though [14:00] jbicha, hey [14:00] jbicha, your g-s-d work, did you start on changes for the new version there or only merging on Debian? [14:03] seb128: I did both [14:03] jbicha, hum, ok :-( [14:04] jbicha, I don't want to increase diff by mixing a debian merge with the update, I will pick bits out of your work and rebase manually then [14:12] wow the archive is slow today... been downloading updates for 30m this morning [14:12] you'd think it was release day :) [14:15] hmmm, my neck really isn't used to looking to the left [14:15] perhaps i shouldn't have rearranged my desk ;) [14:15] haha [14:15] chrisccoulson: noone's neck is -- the monitor should be right in front of you [14:15] pitti - oh, my primary screen is. but the laptop screen + dock are on the left [14:16] they used to be on the right, but that's where i also have my mouse [14:16] so i thought i'd try moving the dock so that i have more room [14:16] it feels a bit weird though [14:18] m4n1sh: hey, how are you? === davidcalle_ is now known as davidcalle [14:29] seb128, pitti: Why did we re-enable indicators for the fallback session? That will challenge some assumptions elsewhere about whether Unity==indicators (e.g. the way we swap in our date/time panel for upstream's) [14:30] mterry, [14:30] gnome-panel (1:3.3.5-0ubuntu2) precise; urgency=low [14:30] * debian/patches/41_classic_layout.patch: [14:30] - Change the defaults to be more "classic Ubuntu": Show indicators [14:30] & show desktop, drop GNOME clock & notification area (LP: #846378) [14:30] mterry, jbicha did it [14:30] mterry, I've no strong opinion either way [14:30] mterry, hey btw, had a good w.e? ;-) [14:30] I also thought we were trying to not modify the upstream experience [14:31] mterry: err, we did? [14:31] seb128, yeah, it was good :) [14:31] mterry: I think we should not have any indicators in gnome-shell or gnome-panel [14:31] pitti, I tend to agree [14:31] pitti, cf the changelog I just copied [14:31] right, I think we should revert that [14:31] I've no strong opinion, jbicha and ricotz are in charge of GNOME upstream experience ;-) [14:31] jbicha: ^ opinion? [14:32] pitti, well he's the one who did the change so I guess he's in favor of it [14:32] jbicha: I'd rather ship a real upstream experience now [14:32] seb128, yar but he may not be aware of the consequences [14:32] I'm unsure, people updating for lucid would probably like to still get their gnome-panel session similar to what they are used to [14:32] jbicha: we don't really test indicators and other ubuntu-isms in gnome upstream, so we better not modify it too much? [14:32] jbicha, just FYI, other parts of the desktop now detect whether they are in Unity or not to expose indicator preferences [14:33] mterry, well what you say that is that we shouldn't have added indicator-applet back [14:33] correct [14:33] in the archive [14:33] we even removed it, didn't we? [14:33] Oh, I guess [14:33] pitti, because it was not ported to GNOME3 [14:33] That's my biggest concern, yeah [14:33] no, because we (well, seems "only some of us") didn't really want it back [14:33] well, on the other side quite some people like gnome-panel with indicators [14:33] seb128, have them email GNOME to add it. ;) [14:34] lol [14:34] well we have indicator-applet and it's working [14:34] Ah, but it's not quite. Users have no way to modify some of the settings [14:34] and now we don't have a real gnome any more [14:34] it's about time we really fork gnome-control-center [14:34] we stack hacks on hacks between sessions [14:35] we should have an ubuntu-control-center and a gnome-control-center [14:35] but that's a discussion for next cycle ;-) [14:35] pitti, well gnome-shell is real GNOME [14:35] seb128, perhaps. But then to fix this, we'd be talking about swapping out the control center for the fallback session. Which gets us further from the GNOME experience. [14:35] ok, I'm out of this discussion [14:36] :) [14:36] I don't think gnome-panel is worth the time we are loosing discussing it [14:36] seb128, care to talk about keyboard indicators instead? [14:36] mterry, I'm happy to talk keyboard ;-) [14:36] I don't get the no-keyboard-indicator bug you see. So I'm not sure if I'm doing the same thing as you [14:36] mterry, sorry for the list spam, I should draft emails rather than just commit after each step of testing :p [14:36] heh [14:36] mterry, the user switching one? or the "in session indicator"? [14:36] The in-session indicator one [14:37] mterry, my switch to workspace keybindings are broken as well with your update [14:37] so something is broken with g-s-d [14:37] I tried to --debug run it but I didn't see anything obvious [14:37] seb128, ?? [14:38] seb128, hmm. sounds like maybe it's blocking on something? Never gets to the point where it can show keyboard indicator or handle events [14:38] mterry, well I've alt-1 for switch to ws1 for example, with the g-s-d from the ppa that stopped working [14:38] seb128, like if it couldn't get a response from accountsservice when it tried to tell it about your layouts? [14:38] so I'm wondering if there is an issue leading to some plugins not loading [14:39] hum [14:39] mterry, could be yes [14:39] My patch is real small. It's just calling accountsservice calls (but doing so synchronously) [14:39] seb128, can you double-confirm you have the accountsservice from the PPA? [14:40] mterry, do you use the gir? [14:40] ii accountsservice 0.6.15-2ubuntu4+keyboard1 query and manipulate user account information [14:40] ii gir1.2-accountsservice-1.0 0.6.15-2ubuntu4 GObject introspection data for AccountService [14:40] ii libaccountsservice0 0.6.15-2ubuntu4+keyboard1 query and manipulate user account information - shared libraries [14:40] [14:40] seems I didn't update the gir [14:40] could it break stuff? [14:40] No, shouldn't... it doesn't use the gir [14:40] * kenvandine wishes robert_ancell was online for a hug, he cleaned up all the compiler warnings in gwibber :) [14:41] hehe [14:41] and he started a branch with bake :) [14:42] mterry, gdb on it seems to indicate it's not blocked [14:42] #1 0x00b05020 in __GI___poll (fds=0x9c5f590, nfds=10, timeout=3999) [14:42] at ../sysdeps/unix/sysv/linux/poll.c:87 [14:42] #2 0x007d280b in g_poll (fds=0x9c5f590, nfds=10, timeout=3999) [14:42] at /build/buildd/glib2.0-2.31.16/./glib/gpoll.c:132 [14:42] #3 0x007c4dde in g_main_context_poll (n_fds=10, fds=0x9c5f590, [14:42] [14:43] seb128, curious... my patch seems so harmless besides the possibility of blocking: https://launchpadlibrarian.net/92613030/gnome-settings-daemon_3.2.2-0ubuntu15_3.2.2-0ubuntu15%2Bkeyboard1.diff.gz [14:43] And it's not just crashing for you it sounds like [14:44] mterry, ok, scrap the "keybindings are not working" [14:44] mterry, they seem to work, maybe I had the wrong layout and didn't notice since the indicator is not showing [14:44] ah, heh [14:44] mterry, but you got the indicator to show? [14:45] seb128, yeah. I have 4 layouts configured, and I see the indicator [14:45] hum [14:45] d-feet returns what seems the right keymaps list [14:46] * mterry wonders how widespread this is; needs another tester [14:50] didrocks, heyo! [14:50] have y'all tried default gnome-panel without the indicators? it's pretty horrible, the battery icon does nothing, it doesn't scroll well, and so on [14:51] * mterry waves to jbicha [14:51] mterry: hi! [14:51] jbicha, nope, only with the indicators :) [14:51] mterry, [14:51] $ gsettings get org.gnome.libgnomekbd.keyboard layouts [14:51] ['de', 'fr\toss'] [14:51] mterry, so that seems correct... [14:52] jbicha, I just wanted to make sure that it was understood that the preferences for the indicators don't show outside of Unity [14:53] mterry: :( well at least it looks prettier [14:53] seb128, and you proved that g-s-d is not blocked with gdb... If you add a layout, does accountsservice reflect that over DBus? [14:53] hey mterry :) [14:54] seb128, (the XKeyboardLayouts attribute) [14:54] I think we really need a separate OnlyShowIn: value for GNOME Classic than for Shell [14:55] mterry, it does [14:55] seb128, so that means my patch in g-s-d is doing its job. Just somewhere along the line the indicator got lost [14:56] didrocks, can you do me a favor and try the keyboard packages from the desktop PPA? [14:56] mterry, I can easily trigger the issue if you need help debugging, like I "sudo apt-get install gnome-settings-daemon=3.2.2-0ubuntu15" and restart g-s-d and I get an indicator [14:56] didrocks, I want to see if this is a French thing or not :) [14:56] I use the ppa and restart g-s-d and I get none [14:57] mterry: sure, you meant, the g-s-d here? [14:57] didrocks, there are four packages, accountsservice, g-s-d, lightdm, unity-greeter [14:57] didrocks, and then you have to log out and back in twice. :) [14:57] didrocks, might just be easier to dist-upgrade rather than pick them out [14:58] mterry: ok, that can wait for ~ half an hour? [14:59] didrocks, sure [14:59] didrocks, no rush, thanks! [14:59] will do :) [14:59] tedg, did you get a chance to look at my indicator-power patch? I wanted to distro-patch it in for FF, but would feel better if I could say "backported from trunk" in the changelog :) [15:00] mterry, I'm pretty puzzled at why your diff would break anything... [15:00] mterry, Yeah, I saw it, I'm not sure if it conflicts with charles' patch though. [15:00] mterry, I haven't looked at the two together yet. [15:01] seb128, me too :-/ [15:01] charles' patch, eh? /me looks [15:01] mterry, can you confirm one of the other issues I reported at least? ;-) [15:01] seb128, heh, sure. let me try the switch user one [15:02] seb128, also, I tried switching layouts in the greeter and I wasn't able to log in anymore. So for me, it seems layout switching is working [15:03] seb128, wish there was a place to type that let you see what you were typing [15:03] mterry, hum ok, anyway none of those seem blocker for an upload so maybe get that in precise and let's see what bugs come [15:03] seb128, the indicator one is kinda bad [15:03] mterry, can't you enable back the "other" in some config way? [15:03] for nfs,ldap logins [15:03] seb128, other? [15:03] mterry, the entry that let you type an username [15:04] mterry, isn't that required for i.e ldap logins? [15:04] seb128, oh right. no? not sure what happened to that, but haven't seen it in a while. let me check cde [15:04] code [15:04] I used to type in that field to see what I typed [15:04] mterry, it was disabled by default, but I'm pretty sure that respect a config, like show user list [15:05] mterry, http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~unity-greeter-team/unity-greeter/trunk/revision/236 [15:05] mterry, the check is easy to ack away at least for testing [15:05] -if (greeter.hide_users_hint) [15:05] +if(1) [15:05] I guess [15:07] seb128, or greeter-hide-users=true in /etc/lightdm/lightdm.conf [15:07] mterry, well then I guess you loose your users to test what config reading [15:08] it would only list the username,password prompt in that case? [15:08] seb128, I think so? Let me try. Not sure I have the absolute correct syntax yet [15:08] mterry, well that's what I would think the option do, hide your users [15:09] that might not be good for testing [15:09] I guess easier is to do a local build and show the chars in the password entry [15:10] mvo, ping [15:10] seb128, hrm. I also don't get the switch-user behavior you describe. When you switch users, does the user list have to scroll to get to your name? [15:10] seb128, why not good for testing? [15:10] mterry, no, I think the greeter is spawned with that user selected [15:11] seb128, yar, but for me, it animates scrolling to the user. Does it do that for you? [15:11] mterry, vt switching sucks too much there, by the time I see the greeter it's already rendered, if it had to do an animation I don't see it [15:11] k [15:11] mterry, what user is selected by default? [15:11] mterry, the user I tested happens to be the first in the list [15:11] if that makes a difference [15:11] so no scrolling needed [15:12] mterry, that's maybe a corner case if the user selected for switching is the default one [15:12] mvo, the dependency problem with apt-get install libpackagekit-glib2-dev [15:12] seb128, yup, if it scrolls, no bug. But I do get it for first user [15:13] mterry, I'm building a g-s-d locally with your patch and some printfs, let's see how that goes [15:13] seb128, it's not the default one, but the first alphabetically [15:13] mvo, is preventing it from being released into precise [15:13] mterry, right [15:13] mterry, ok, good, so you can at least confirm this one ;-) [15:13] now let me try disabling chars [15:13] seb128, oh, I bet it looks horrible too for you! I didn't put the light-themes changes in the PPA [15:14] mterry, it looks weird but I didn't stop at cosmetic issues, it's not uif yet ;-) [15:14] still, gotta have all the bling one can get [15:14] mterry, hum, in fact I had only one glitch [15:14] ronoc: the dependency problem that it pulls in packagekit itself? [15:14] mterry, we got a light-themes snapshot recently, I think it includes the theming work Cimi did [15:15] mterry, or was there extra tweaks since? [15:15] mvo, that's the one [15:16] seb128, no, don't think that includes his lightdm tweaks [15:17] oh it does, just in a different place... [15:17] mterry, wtf [15:17] so now i have to wonder how to get it to apply... [15:17] mterry, so your ppa package rebuild locally works...is there any chance the i386 ppa build built with the old accountsservice and that's creating issues or something [15:18] seb128, I can't see how... doesn't need its headers or dbus api or anything beforehand [15:18] ronoc: if the python-packagekit recommends get lowered to suggests, that should be all that is needed to fix it [15:19] seb128, does it also fix the switching layouts issue? :) /me hopes [15:19] mterry, on the greeter? I can't tell, I don't want to reboot now [15:19]