[00:01] kick me you fools [00:11] ? === aarcane_ is now known as aarcane [00:26] So... nmapping to generate a network map is what I'm getting ready to do. [00:27] using zenmap. [00:27] Good tool for the job? Anything simpler / better that any experienced admins recommend? [00:40] fraterm: nmap is great [01:44] <_johnny> hi. i've ruined my apt sources, and i'm using an old (karmic) ubuntu. can anyone help me get back on track (which currently just means getting build-essentials installed)? [01:46] Isn't karmic EOLd? [01:47] <_johnny> yes [01:47] !eol [01:47] End-Of-Life is the time when security updates and support for an Ubuntu release stop, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Releases for more information. Looking to upgrade from an EOL release? See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EOLUpgrades [01:47] EOLd releases move to a different URL [01:47] hallyn: reported bug 931220 I just noticed when testing my new LXC host. Not sure if that's lxc or upstart's fault though. [01:47] old-releases.ubuntu.com or something [01:47] Launchpad bug 931220 in lxc "lxc.conf upstart job fails to spawn containers at boot time" [High,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/931220 [01:47] The wiki should tell you all about it [01:48] <_johnny> twb: perfect! thanks [01:55] New bug: #931220 in lxc (universe) "lxc.conf upstart job fails to spawn containers at boot time" [High,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/931220 [01:57] <_johnny> rats.. the last attempt to upgrade resulted in all essentials (crontab, (x)inetd etc) to be removed, and no way to restore lol. guess i have to do it the hard way :) [01:59] Learn to use aptitude to resolve conflicts [02:31] New bug: #931229 in lxc (universe) "lxc containers do not retain configured ip on container reboot" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/931229 [02:31] <_johnny> twb: conflicts is an understatement :) [02:34] _johnny: wow, what kind of deamons are you keeping in your sources.list that they break upgrade that much? :) [02:38] <_johnny> kklimonda: hehe, not sure. needed to do a few low level installs because too many dependencies were broken, but got it working now :) [03:16] New bug: #931236 in keystone (universe) "keystone install is unnecessarily interactive" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/931236 [03:26] hi guys. quick htaccess question. I have the following code in a main folder: http://pastebin.com/vAUtyYVr I want to reverse this inside of another sub folder. I mean, i don't want to guard against any of this inside a sub folder. how do I do this> [03:26] ? [03:50] webroasters, I don't know for sure, but I think you can just create another .htaccess inside that subfolder with the same filesmatch, but with 'allow from all' [03:51] yeah i just did that. it works. thanks man [05:18] hi all [05:32] kklimonda: which freeipa version are you building? the one on git should build [05:34] If you have root, everything that you would've put in an .htaccess file CAN and SHOULD go in /etc/apache2/, and htaccess should be disabled [05:35] Leaving htaccess enabled where non-root users can write to .htaccess is Bad Juju [05:39] tjaalton: I build the one from git using packages from ubuntu-389-directory-server ppa on precise [05:40] tjaalton: first it complains about libdirsrv-dev missing (it seems to be a part of 389-ds-base-dev now) [05:43] Why 389 instead of openldap? [05:44] Oh, it requires 389 [05:46] yeah === Corey_ is now known as Corey [05:52] tjaalton: I also had to patch some issues related to tighter gcc flags: http://paste.ubuntu.com/840047/ [06:02] kklimonda: oh right, I was running oneiric when building it the last time [06:03] add a patch to git, I can send it upstream [06:03] (did the same for 389) [06:03] kklimonda: and I renamed libdirsrv* to 389-ds-base-{libs,dev} [06:03] but didn't change it there, oops [06:07] * twb has a knee-jerk reaction to starting package names with a number [06:08] blame upstream :) [06:08] Anyway (C) libraries have a different package naming convention already [06:09] libfoo-N or so [06:28] Hello! I'm trying to configure /etc/samba/smb.conf file and I'm bit confused about users. Windows got a user xyz and Ubuntu got say abc. I have to useradd xyz and then smbpasswd xyz in linux to allow samba share access? [06:29] you need smbpasswd -a to add the user to the smbpasswd database [06:29] unless you implement ldap or something else [06:30] then, provided the unix user has access to the directory and you haven't specified any restrictions on the samba share, that user will have access [06:31] How can I see the users added by smbpasswd? [06:32] sorry, I don't know [06:32] the default backend is tdbsam, that may help you google [06:33] I do know the tdbsam files are binary, not plaintext [06:33] Secondly, you said unix user need to have access to the directory. Does it mean I have add new users in linux users as well as using smpasswd? I noticed that I had to useradd xyz and then also smbpasswd -a [06:33] by default, yes [06:34] Well, that's [06:34] there are ways to configure it to not behave that way but the default setup maps smb users to unix users [06:34] Is there an alternative to that? [06:34] ah-ok [06:34] but that's getting pretty advanced [06:35] I find it annoying to add users in linux box so that it matches Windows login even if I won't be using it in linux [06:35] easiest way, if you don't want them to have any other access, is to set their shell to /usr/sbin/nologin or /bin/false [06:36] -s /bin/true yes. Thanks that can be done [06:36] er [06:38] /bin/false* [06:38] What are the alternative approaches to this? [06:39] ldap or similar, or specifying which smb users have access in smb.conf [06:39] I haven't actually done it myself so I don't know for sure what's needed [06:39] you can add any users with smbpasswd -a even if they don't exist as unix users [06:40] my best guess is they need world-permission if they don't exist as unix users [06:40] Yes, but it failed.. It gave this error - pdb_get_group_sid: Failed to find Unix account for xyz [06:41] Maybe I'm doing it wrong. Is there any other way to network Linux and Windows other than Samba? [06:41] samba's the easiest, as it doesn't require installing software on windows [06:41] but windows can install an nfs client [06:42] server 2008 includes it as a feature, I think windows 7 does too but not sure [06:44] I'll try using inbuilt services for NFS in Windows then [06:44] But that again may be limited to Windows releases Home, pro etc [06:44] yeah, I don't know the details [06:45] I think there are third party nfs clients but I'm not certain on that either [06:45] Alright, thanks for informing that nfs clients exists for Windows. I didn;t know that [06:46] I know for a fact that 2008 includes an NFS client as an optional feature [06:46] I think it's available on 7, but not sure [06:50] Windows' NFS implementation is probably crapper than Linux's CIFS implementation. [06:50] OTOH Linux has no working SMB2 client implementation yet AFAIK. === kthomas1 is now known as kthomas [07:33] tjaalton: hmm, pki-ca depends on pki-selinux but you've disabled building it [07:34] haha [07:35] touched that several weeks ago, can't recall what's going on there [07:36] and regarding the lib naming. easily changed again if the policy requires it, though there were several examples of similar naming the last time i looked [07:36] (and there is no pki-common-theme anymore, is it one of dogtag-pki-*-theme packages?) [07:37] you're forcing me to look? :) [07:37] :D [07:37] ah, there are provides fields [07:37] no need :) [07:37] too many packages involved, so i've been tackling them in the dependency order, and pki & freeipa are the last ones [07:38] yeah the ppa still has the faulty version, with versioned provides which isn't supported [07:38] yeah, it's huge :) [07:39] maybe I'll upload the packages in NEW to the ppa's too, so that it's easier to work on them [07:42] oh right, the libs package just has the plugin lib, and -dev has headers for it, so the naming is right [07:42] it's not in a public search path [07:43] split only for 389-admin to build-dep on that, and not needing to install the whole ds [07:49] kklimonda: i'll prepare 389-ds-base for the ppa. needs a dfsg tarball === gustav- is now known as beerbro [08:14] tjaalton: few beers, and dpkg --force-overwrite later, I've managed to install freeipa-server \o/ [08:14] ;) [08:14] (libpki-silent-java and pki-silent both ship /usr/share/java/pki-silent-9.0.14.jar) [08:15] wow [08:15] I bet the setup script fails though [08:15] it's a monster.. [08:15] yeah, and you've commented acutil out :) [08:16] haven't run it myself, but the client install needs hacks so same applies here [08:16] :) [08:16] i'd wish we had nss cert db already.. [08:16] now if only I haven't done it all on my desktop machine.. *whistles* [08:17] I really should configure some more VMs for this stuff [08:17] yeah they are really nice [08:17] i have F16 on a vm, running freeipa. tested client against it last fall [08:18] how much hacking did client installation script required for it to work? [08:18] and an instance for an ubuntu server, but it's still WIP [08:18] hmm hang on [08:19] kklimonda: https://www.redhat.com/archives/freeipa-devel/2011-September/msg00408.html [08:20] though most of it is now on the archive [08:20] god, ipa-server-install is going to be such a pita :D [08:20] it configures everything and assumes it's redhat ;) [08:20] yeah the platform code isn't patched in yet [08:21] for client you need at least 12) and 13) [08:22] ok sbuild run of 389ds went fine, I'll upload it to the ppa now === jodh is now known as jhunt [08:27] Hello, I'm having trouble with crond service after upgrade 11.04 > 11.10, can someone please help me? === rickspencer3_ is now known as rickspencer3 [08:46] hi all [08:48] hi all. http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/840151/ [08:49] hi all. http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/840151/http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/840151/ [08:49] http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/840151/ [08:49] Hello! How do I configure smb.conf to allow only hosts 192.168.1.100-192.168.1.110 ? I did man smb.conf but I'm not sure how to achieve this [08:49] http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/840151/ [08:51] linocisco: stop spamming! [08:51] meh [08:51] kraut, no. i m not spamming [08:52] sure! [08:52] linocisco: http://lmgtfy.com/?q=W%3A+GPG+error%3A+http%3A%2F%2Fextras.ubuntu.com+marverick+Release%3A+The+following+signatures+could+not+be+verified+because+public+key+is+not+available%3A+NO_PUBKEY+16126D3A3E5C1192 [08:52] kraut, it is real post [08:58] morning all [09:00] http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/840160/ [09:00] http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/840160/. what do I do? [09:00] linocisco: are you that stupid!? [09:00] linocisco: did you read it in anyway?! [09:01] kraut, don't I have the right to post my problem? [09:01] if you frist try to solve this problem on your own and if that's not possible you are welcome to ask here. [09:01] kraut, have you checked if those two posts are the same? [09:01] the script writes down what you should do! [09:02] Rather than invoking init scripts through /etc/init.d, use the service(8) untility, e.g, ____###service dovecot restart###___. [09:02] did you READ that? [09:02] kraut, all I have tried and only in the last time, I ask here. because I actually hate to get unwelcome response [09:02] kraut, . I can read english. I tried. not ok [09:03] kraut, it ended with " Reload: unknown instance:" [09:36] hi [09:39] i found '"telnet localhost imap2" is fine. but "telnet localhost pop3" got error. it is like toggle? === rickspencer3_ is now known as rickspencer3 [10:10] hi can someone please tell me a reason i may be getting access.logs like this > [12/Feb/2012:00:20:19 +0100] "-" 408 0 "-" "-" [10:16] Tixos, what is that machine doing? 408 is a timeout message. You got some internal monitoring going on? Maybe some load balancer? [10:19] not that i know of, the provider has some monitoring robot or something but dont know if that is the issue [10:21] should i turn off keepalive or soemthing? or adjust the timeout to test? [10:21] i didnt have the issues on centos [10:21] and i know configs are different across the OS's [10:21] no - its a login timeout - what modules do you have loaded? I am presuming this is apache, but never seen an entry without an IP before. [10:21] it has an IP, i didnt feel i should post it @? [10:22] oh - is it foreign to your network? [10:22] rewrite, ssl are about the only ones i have loaded [10:22] yes [10:22] I presume this is from a POST request to some form? [10:23] no its GET [10:23] happenening every 1-2 seconds [10:23] i just tailed with | grep 408 [10:24] is there anyway to debug it further? [10:24] dig -x ip - do you recognise the address? [10:26] for the 408? or serverip ? [10:27] the access IP is just general traffic.. [10:30] very strange thing is, i am moving from a centos server, i went to another ubuntu 10.04 server previosly, and looking at both sets of access.logs | grep 408, the CentOS has not a single 408 error... both ubuntus have many [10:31] so maybe a config issue? [10:32] the only different in my virtualhost file that i can see, is i am using Virtualhost *:80 on ubuntu, and Virtualhost domain.com:80 on centos [10:41] could this actually be causing it though? i mean in my Centos install, #NameVirtualHost *:80 is commented out, and in ubuntu by default in 'ports.conf' its uncommented? [10:46] New bug: #931342 in php5 (main) "XSLTProcessor::transformToXml(): runtime error" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/931342 [10:52] what about the apache module 'request timeout' ?? [10:52] this doesnt seem to be enabled on my centos install === _ruben_ is now known as _ruben [10:54] fixed.... [10:55] whytf is that setup by default [11:09] damn - hpwdt doesn't seem to be in lucid :( [11:14] weird - what distro and version of apache? [11:17] ubuntu man thats why i am here :) 10.04, and latest version of apache that comes with it [11:26] Tixos, never used any distro apache to comment tbh - we roll our own and strip off stuff that's not needed - avoids these issues. [11:27] ? [12:33] hi all [12:35] hey koolhead17 [12:35] hello jamespage [12:36] i am trying to test diablo setup on multinode, on oneiric [12:38] my glance and rabbitmq are running on saperate nodes, i am not sure what will i put in rabbit_virtual_host = / in my case inside glance.conf [12:40] also i see keystone sausage in the bottom of the conf file, which makes me bit confusing [12:43] * koolhead17 pokes zul :P [13:07] zul: have you fixed horizon CI? [13:08] Daviey: will do so this morning [13:08] havent started work yet [13:08] zul: i saw a commit, that was all [13:09] Daviey: ah ok [13:09] Daviey: maybe its the community fixing it ;) [13:09] ah, sorry, it was last Monday :) [13:13] zul: what happened with horizon 2012.1~e4~20120202.1300-0ubuntu1, *ubuntu2 then *ubuntu3? [13:28] zul, just to let you know, I opened bug 931425 and bug 931423 to have a place to track those two minor issues I found with the current xl stack. [13:28] Launchpad bug 931425 in xen "Cannot specify a default bridge with xen xl stack" [Wishlist,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/931425 [13:28] Launchpad bug 931423 in xen-common "Use of vifscript requires full path unlike the example suggests" [Low,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/931423 [13:41] Daviey: eh? [13:56] Trying to boot from LVM. I've copied my root to an LVM and tried to set the fstab to mount the LVM, and run update-initramfs but it still seems to be booting to the original partition. Can anyone help? [13:57] Daviey: horizon is building again [14:01] can anyone help with booting from LVM / mounting an LVM as root? [14:05] MoleMan, I'd probably check /boot/grub/grub.cfg and /etc/fstab whether they contain the uuid of the lv you want as root [14:05] At least change the one for the current kernel manually once [14:06] Though you probably need /boot to be a partition still... [14:09] zul: the packages in the archive differ from those in the packaging branch. [14:09] 2 x FTBFS's in the archive? [14:10] Daviey: i just noticed and its been synched now [14:10] Daviey: now i have to fix keystone [14:10] i am using kvm on centos 6.2 ,i have installed another ubuntu 10.04 as a guest if i want to access ssh of guest kind of network i have to use -- i want to use guest from outside [14:10] awesome. [14:11] GRUB should point to my boot partition, from where the initrd should know to mount the LVM, was my understanding? [14:13] MoleMan, Yes, grub should look in /boot for kernel and initrd, from there it looks for the uuid of /. But if you generate grub.cfg while / is still mounted from the partition, the scripts to generate the grub.cfg would pick that still [14:14] not to mention that /etc/fstab is not updated either. Not sure but that might get used by something as well (at least misleading mtab probably) [14:14] I updated /etc/fstab to have the new root UUID. === bladernr_afk is now known as bladernr_ [14:15] then ran update-initramfs to update the initrd. [14:16] MoleMan, Ok, but check /boot/grub as well, just to be sure [14:18] smb: what am I looking for? [14:19] MoleMan, something like "search --no-floppy --fs-uuid --set=root 2eab68c5-c6fa-405d-a360-1f6f1690bbb3" with your current partition root's uuid [14:20] yeah just saw that, would the easiest thing to do be boot a live CD, chroot and grub-upate (or whatever the command is)? [14:20] Or actually there are linux "/boot/vmlinuz-*-generic root=UUID=xxx ro quiet splash" lines later for the kernel [14:21] MoleMan, Ok, that should work too (like use alternate-cd and rescue mode) [14:21] New bug: #931448 in quota (main) "package quota 3.17-6 failed to install/upgrade: subprocess installed post-installation script returned error exit status 2" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/931448 [14:21] MoleMan, Then choose the lv as root and runn a shell in there to update-grub [14:22] MoleMan, The advantage of alternate (or server) cds is that you have lvm ready to use [14:23] does the alternate disk have an easier rescue mode than using the desktop live CD and using terminal to manually mount everything and chroot? [14:24] If so I'm going to get easily irritated... the server CD I had if it went to rescue mode had a very limited busybox? [14:25] MoleMan, In the sense easier that it guides you to mount and run a shell in a root of your choice and it has lvm to actually let you select the lv. Hm, I thought the server CD's rescue mode was the same as alternates === yakster_ is now known as yakster [14:25] And it would give you a selection of partitions or lvs to mount as root and then execute a shell (ok then I usually type bash in there) [14:29] Its strange, it seems as if its starting to install over the top because it asks for system names etc, which always worries me, give me a second I will try to boot the new server disc... [14:32] MoleMan, It does ask those things. Which could be confusing, but it should not ask about where to install [14:33] smb: do you know why it asks for the hostname etc? does it actually matter what I put? [14:34] MoleMan, Just gives the current rescue boot that name. It does not matter that much really. [14:35] Don't think any service (like ssh) is started but I might be wrong there [14:35] well I'm using YUMI multiboot and if I try to launch server it only gives me the install option [14:36] not sure if its worth me burning a disc or just using the ubuntu desktop liveCD [14:36] Hm, don't know about that one. I normally either use a cd or put things on a usb stick with usb-creator [14:38] MoleMan, From the desktop life cd you would have to install lvm and then mount the fs yourself and do the chroot on your own. It should work the same [14:38] yeah, I used to, then I started using YUMI MultiBoot because it means I can choose from god only knows how many different things I can install on one memory stick... [14:38] * smb must admit he did not look at the life DVDs for a while in detail [14:38] * MoleMan looks through heap of CDs on desk and in shoebox [14:38] or life CDs either [14:40] the only server disc I have is 10.10 which gives you a limited busybox with 'bash like' commands... which is why I have been using the desktop and doing it manually as I wasn't sure what I was restricted to [14:42] MoleMan, Other option is to be daring and replace the uuid of the first kernel sections uuids (if there a multiple which would give a fallback). Actually the rescue a broken system boot should have been the same for even beyond Maverick [14:53] any upstart expert in the room ? === caribou_ is now known as Caribou [14:54] I'm seeing what looks like a race condition with the mongodb upstart start sequence [14:54] I've seen cases where the db daemon was starting databases before /var/lib/mongodb File system was mounted [15:02] smb: do I need anything special in the options for the mount in fstab? [15:05] MoleMan, Probably depends on what you want to achieve. For root the default is errors=remount-ro... [15:07] smb: yeah I just copied the ones from root, I was wondering if there were any others specific to LVMs but it doesn't matter. [15:07] smb: more to the point: THANKYOU!!! IT WORKS!! been trying to sort this on and off for like a week... [15:08] MoleMan, No, there is no difference between a lv and a partition in that respect [15:08] MoleMan, Heh, good to hear :) === jodh is now known as jhunt [15:10] adbauvjhgvlkjabsgfaqs;lbgr #rage# [15:10] everything is owned by root #sob# [15:11] smb, could you please take a look at https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/cloud-init/+bug/898373 [15:11] Launchpad bug 898373 in cloud-init "fsck.ext3: Device or resource busy while trying to open /dev/xvda2" [High,Confirmed] [15:11] slangasek is fairly sure nothing in user space at that point should have a device busy to stop fsck [15:12] MoleMan, That probably depends on how you created your copy. [15:12] smoser, looking [15:12] smoser, Oh wasn't that the one you mentioned in last weeks meeting? [15:13] smb, yeah, there are kind of two parts to it [15:13] one is that fsck is failing, claiming busy device (this one is instance-store i think). [15:13] other part is bug 928990 [15:13] Launchpad bug 928990 in cloud-init "fsck / dirty filesystem on instance is death" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/928990 [15:13] which is unfortunately functioing as currently designed. [15:14] right, so is there an option or something for cp to retain the owner + group settings? [15:14] MoleMan, cp -a should do it. [15:15] ok thanks, I will do that later... for now, I'm going to see the GF. Thanks for your help... [15:16] MoleMan, Np, oh, actually cp -ax maybe (to only copy one fs) [15:18] I typically just use rsync for anything more complicated than a single file [15:18] smoser, Hm, wonder whether we could sneak in a fuser into the init scripts error path... But I need to take a bit more time for the logs first [15:18] ok, I'll look into it and doublecheck when I get back, will look at rsync maybe [15:18] cya [15:32] zul, Daviey, adam_g: for the openstack stable pre-commit testing [15:32] a) do we want to merge/maintain a verion history like we do for trunck testing [15:33] and b) upload to PPA? [15:33] a) yes b) yes [15:33] OK - just checking! [15:33] jamespage: no worries [15:34] zul: hmm - so the reason I asked about the branch for version history was that we are going to trigger on patch upload into gerrit [15:34] so we could end up with multiple entries for the same gerrit review - might get kinda messy [15:35] jamespage: yeah [15:35] hmm - I guess it does not matter that much [15:35] it doesnt matter to me i guess [15:40] jamespage: Hi, thanks for reviewing my package [15:40] jamespage: I have some questions though if you have time [15:40] brendan0powers, no problem [15:40] ask away [15:41] Ok, That bonjour exe file shouldn't have made it into the source archive [15:41] it was just there to help automate the windows builds === 31NAAV9PE is now known as irvee [15:41] Is it possible to remove it from the .orig.tar.gz without incrementing the software version? [15:42] brendan0powers, yes - you can simple repack the orig.tar.gz and exclude files you don't want [15:42] Ok, and launchpad won't complain that the file changed? [15:43] brendan0powers, ah - now that is a different matter [15:43] I may be able to remove the package from launchpad completely [15:43] then re-upload it [15:43] brendan0powers, not in the same PPA I'm afraid [15:43] Ah, that's too bad [15:44] I suggest that we start using a bzr branch whilst we go through review [15:44] that way you can make changes incrementally without having to push to a PPA for me to be able to see them [15:44] so with regards to repacking the orig.tar.gz [15:44] The packaging info is already stored in a mercurial repo, is that OK? [15:45] brendan0powers, that's fine; in which case its probably worth referencing where the packaging source code is stored [15:45] in the debian/control file [15:46] brendan0powers, http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/developers-reference/best-pkging-practices.html#bpp-vcs [15:47] brendan0powers, is there a published source distribution of rsa? [15:47] i.e. a tar.gz that you could download and build [15:47] jamespage: No, only source packages, or the VCS [15:48] brendan0powers, can you point me at the Vcs location? [15:49] rsa/rds BTW [15:49] jamespage: http://bitbucket.org/resara/resara-server [15:50] pacakges are stored in rds/packages/[ubuntu codename] [15:50] jamespage: although the precise stuff hasn't been pushed yet [15:52] brendan0powers, I see [15:52] so how are you generating the .orig.tar.gz at the moment? [15:53] jamespage: I have a script that does it [15:53] jamespage: also not commited:) [15:53] I will push everything in a few minutes [15:54] brendan0powers, so I notice that you have tagged releases in bitbucket which allows you to then download that commit point as a tar.gz [15:55] that would be acceptable as the orig.tar.gz - I do similar for a number of packages I maintain based on projects in github.com [15:55] jamespage: Ok, I will think about that [15:57] brendan0powers, that way you should be able to add a debian/watch file which can be used to download the orig.tar.gz - it can also run a specified script once downloaded to do any repacking required. [15:57] jamespage: repackaging? [15:58] brendan0powers, repacking - removing any files that you don't want in the orig.tar.gz [15:58] exe's for example :) === sixstringsg|away is now known as sixstringsg [16:00] jdstrand: ping [16:00] Caribou: pong [16:01] morning jdstrand ! [16:01] hi! [16:01] would you be interested in an update from my PXE/tftp issue of last week ? [16:01] if you have a couple of minute to spare, or I can email it to you [16:01] jamespage: Ah, that could be useful [16:02] jamespage: do you know where I could find documentation on that? [16:02] Caribou: I can take a look; perhaps I can add something to help [16:02] jdstrand: well I think that I have sorted it out [16:02] brendan0powers, 'man uscan' is a good place to start [16:03] Caribou: oh, excellent [16:03] jamespage: thanks [16:03] Caribou: I'm definitely curious on what it was [16:03] jdstrand: it's interaction b/w firewall NAT rules & conntrack helpers [16:03] interesting [16:04] brendan0powers, as you are endeavouring to get this into the distro is probably worth thinking about packaging versions separate from the 'upstream' version [16:04] jdstrand: privmsg [16:04] jamespage: I'm not sure I understand that [16:05] brendan0powers, OK you are packaging 1.1.0 of rds - which is the upstream version [16:05] the packaging is then appended to that - -0ubuntu1 or suchlike [16:06] by separating the packaging from the upstream codebase they can be versioned independently [16:06] -0ubuntu2.... [16:06] when a source package gets uploaded to ubuntu it gets automatically imported into a bzr branch - in the case of this package it would be : [16:07] lp:ubuntu/rds [16:07] and then lp:ubuntu/precise/rds once precise gets released [16:08] you can say - well actually we manage the packaging source code for this somewhere else - thats what the Vcs-* fields are for in debian/control [16:08] but that is really a reference to the packaging source - not the upstream source. [16:09] jamespage: Ok, so you suggesting I store the packaging source somewhere else [16:09] Like, in a bzr repo on launchpad [16:09] hallyn: ping [16:09] and then use the debian/watch file to pull in the orig.tar.gz file? [16:09] brendan0powers, thats it! [16:10] brendan0powers, once the package gets imported into the bzr branch in launchpad [16:10] it will contain both the orig.tar.gz and the packaging [16:10] bzr uses tagging, branches etc to manage that [16:10] utlemming: yo [16:11] hallyn: so cloud-images and lxc -- I was playing with them the other day [16:11] brendan0powers, it means that you can bzr branch lp:ubuntu/rds and it will give you everything you need to build the package [16:11] jamespage: I still don't understand that part [16:11] utlemming: you're about to tell me you love it [16:11] jamespage: is there some documentation on that? [16:12] hallyn: I discoved two things we need to do if they are outside a cloud -- we need to set the locale to that of the host and we need to figure out hostnames...but otherwise I love it [16:12] brendan0powers, I think this is the latest - http://developer.ubuntu.com/packaging/html/index.html [16:12] hallyn: speficially, for the hostname situation, the container has the default hostname of "ubuntu", which then doesn't map to an ip [16:13] brendan0powers, I'd not worry to much about that for the time being [16:14] having a location to download the orig.tar.gz from and adding a watch file to your packaging would be a better place to start [16:14] jamespage: Ok [16:14] utlemming: you can specify a hostname by specifying a config file containering "lxc.utsname" [16:14] i.e. cat > lxc.conf << EOF\nlxc.utsname=mylxc\nEOF [16:14] jamespage: I'l probably have to create a new tag for the precise package, as I've had to make some changes to the build system [16:14] followed by "lxc-create -t ubuntu-cloud -f lxc.conf -n cloud1" [16:15] brendan0powers, OK [16:15] jamespage: I think I have enough to go on for now [16:15] utlemming: as for locales, I know nothing about them (C is my locale), but I know stgraber wanted something too [16:15] jamespage: thanks for your help, and I'll let you know when things are a little less broken:) [16:15] hallyn: the locale is easy...and I'll get you a patch for that [16:15] i don't particularly care, if you want to install the host's locale in both ubuntu and ubuntu-cloud templates, go for it [16:16] utlemming: cool [16:16] brendan0powers, feel free to ask questions both on this channel and in #ubuntu-devel - there is normally someone around to help! [16:16] jamespage: where did you get your reverse-depends script from? apt-file can't find it. [16:16] rbasak, ubuntu-dev-tools [16:16] rbasak, think that is new in precise tho [16:17] Aha, thanks [16:17] rbasak, I did a rebuild test over the weekend for openmpi [16:17] about ~30 packages failed to rebuild [16:17] * jamespage goes to dig out the results [16:17] Would you happen to have the build logs handy, by any chance? [16:18] What's odd is that I can get boost-mpi-source1.46 to build if I do it by hand, even in a schroot. [16:18] rbasak, http://paste.ubuntu.com/840557/ summary [16:18] The other option is to add a new libopenmpi1.5 package. [16:19] rbasak, I seemed to be getting issues with a compiler openmpi provides not actually working - its was segfaulting [16:22] rbasak, that caused an early failure which then resulted in some un-installable package scenarios (failed rather than attempted status) [16:24] hallyn: the lxc/upstart issue seems to depend on what jobs you have + potentially timing of the boot [16:25] hallyn: I reproduce it every single time on a physical machine but can't reproduce in a VM [16:25]