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tbfhi, someone remembering how remove the own name from the panel?08:11
tbfafair there was as setting to only show the icon (or even presence state?)08:12
tbfah, no. that's even fast user switching08:12
Saviqmorning, all08:32
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ryeerm, bug #930165 - may i ask anybody how such behavior can be "designed" - it is clearly broken when the user expects the mouse to move to another desktop seamlessly?10:43
ubot5`Launchpad bug 930165 in unity (Ubuntu) "Unity launcher push-to-reveal code continues working in always-show - makes multimonitor navigation harder" [Medium,Invalid] https://launchpad.net/bugs/93016510:43
ryeping JohnLea, may I inquire about bug #930165 which was "invalidated" by design?11:06
ubot5`Launchpad bug 930165 in unity (Ubuntu) "Unity launcher push-to-reveal code continues working in always-show - makes multimonitor navigation harder" [Medium,Invalid] https://launchpad.net/bugs/93016511:06
JohnLearhy; that bug was invalidated by dx, not design (it was not marked as also affects ayatana-design so we have not looked at it).  But reviewing it now, one sec11:08
JohnLearhy; there are multiple parts to this interaction.  The 'reveal edge' is disabled when the launcher is locked out, but 'Edge stop' is not only related to the launcher and should stay on in multi-monitor configs.  It is symmetrical (we also use it to make scrollbars easier to grab on the right side of the screen in multi-monitor setups), and most importantly it allows a window semi-maximise to be triggered on the joining edge between11:11
JohnLeatwo monitors.11:11
ryeJohnLea, ah, so this is not launcher-related. Scrollbars access is a really valid concern, now I understand the idea, hm11:12
JohnLearye; semi-maximise is the more important use case11:13
JohnLearhy; but yes scrollbars as well11:13
JohnLearhy; however with the launcher locked out it should be less 'sticky' because only the 'edge stop' is triggered11:14
ryehm, i wonder how to measure stickiness11:15
ryeJohnLea, hm, when i stack the windows vertically, edge stop does not work at all11:21
ryeJohnLea, i suppose this is a different bug then11:21
JohnLearhy; you mean stack monitors vertically?11:21
ryeJohnLea, yes, sorry, when the displays is stacked vertically I cannot maximize the window by dragging it to the top of a secondary display11:22
JohnLearye; yes that's a bug, it would be much appreciated if you could report it and ping me the bug number.  thx!11:22
ryeJohnLea, also, the mouse skips freely in vertical direction11:23
JohnLearhy; yes that's a bug, the 'edge' stop should be triggered in all axis equally.  This is important to fix so that users can use the 'drag window to the top of the screen to maximise' gesture in vertically aligned multi-monitor configs11:24
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aquariusJohnLea, I come to disagree with you a little about edge resistance on multiple monitors ;-)11:29
JohnLeaaquarius; you are more than welcome to ;-)11:31
ryeJohnLea, bug #93138411:31
ubot5`Launchpad bug 931384 in unity (Ubuntu) "Windows can't be maximized on the lower display in vertically-stacked configuration" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/93138411:31
JohnLeaaquarius; but right now I am doing reviews with two developers who both have been up all night (and the weekend) coding to hit feature freeze, and they can't go to sleep until I have finished these reviews, so wait 30 min.  then I'm all yours ;-)11:32
aquariusJohnLea, I agree that edge resistance allows semi-maximising a window on the joining edge between two monitors, but that only applies *when I'm dragging a window*. When I'm not, it makes it way awkward to move the mouse between monitors :(11:33
* aquarius happily waits 30 minutes for response :)11:40
JohnLearye; thanks!12:07
JohnLeaaquarius; are you using a trackpad or a mouse?12:07
aquariusJohnLea, trackpad12:08
JohnLeaaquarius; when did you last update?12:09
aquariusfew days ago12:09
JohnLeaaquarius; try updating now, and then test again.  There are a bunch of known issues in that area, some of which are hopefully now fixed ;-)  Test again after update and then ping me12:10
aquariuswill do12:12
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htorqueJohnLea: hi! can you maybe comment on my post in bug 865239?12:26
ubot5`Launchpad bug 865239 in unity "Launcher - The background of the BFB, Workspace Switcher, Lens, and Trash launcher icons tiles need to use a higher saturation of the average background colour of the wallpaper" [High,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/86523912:26
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popeymhr3: gord said I should ask you about this...12:39
gordi didn't say you should tell him i sent you =\12:39
gordmhr3, he's lying12:39
popeygood job #ubuntu-uk is logged12:39
* mhr3 goes to grab the logs12:40
popeyI have a guest account I just made to test / demo stuff. i have put some files in Documents but when i do Super+F and search, I don't see them. Is there any way to force (zeitgeist?) to index them?12:40
mhr3gord! you evil puppet master!12:40
mhr3popey, yea, open nautilus, navigate to them and double click them, should do it12:41
ryehmmm, is that throbber which shows "loading" state in unity supposed to float up and down while circling12:43
ryeok, me is being too picky12:43
popeymhr3: ah, you have to open stuff to make it appear?12:44
mhr3popey, usually, yea, there are some nautilus patches that should log copying as well (not in ubuntu yet though)12:44
popeymhr3: so if i setup a new computer and sync U1 it's never going to find files until I start opening them?12:45
mhr3popey, iirc u1 does log stuff into zg so that should work12:45
popeycool, thanks.12:45
mhr3popey, feel free to open a bug it it doesn't though :)12:46
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AlanBellanyone know where in dbus the global menu is (if it is there)13:15
AlanBellbasically I want to see what the HUD sees13:16
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aquariusAlanBell, http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~dbusmenu-team/dbusmenu/trunk.0.6/view/head:/libdbusmenu-glib/dbus-menu.xml suggests that there's an interface called com.canonical.dbusmenu, but I don't know which name on the bus provides objects that export that interface. ted gould is your man for that, although gord might know :)13:39
gordthose are per app and really not for snooping on ;)13:42
gordAlanBell, do you want to see the menus or what hud presents?13:43
gordAlanBell, com.canonical.hud for what the hud presents, com.canonical.AppMenu.Registrar for a links to menus13:44
AlanBellgord: I want to scoop up the stuff that HUD could potentially find, and make a jsgf grammar file from it and point pocketsphinx at it and see what happens13:53
AlanBellah, and d-feet does case sensitive searching, which is why I couldn't find "menu"13:55
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greybackdidrocks: hey, could you please rebase this with trunk: lp:~didrocks/unity-2d/lock_launcher, I want to merge some test fixes in to it before approving it14:55
didrocksgreyback: sure14:55
didrocksgreyback: done14:59
greybackdidrocks: thanks14:59
didrocksyw :)15:00
sbtehtorque, I just found a supposedly huge amount of leaks in the network indicator15:05
sbtemaybe that's what you're seeing15:05
sbteI'll fix them when I get home15:05
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greybackdidrocks: if you approve this please, then I can merge: https://code.launchpad.net/~gerboland/unity-2d/hide-mode-zero-test-fixes/+merge/9277815:28
* didrocks reviews15:28
didrocksgreyback: you are stil testing at some point intellihide, despite the fact it should be removed from the code?15:30
didrocks(I guess this is on purpose, just checking ;))15:30
greybackdidrocks: some tests rely on intellihide, and will need complete rewriting. That MR just ensures those tests that need intellihide still get it, most others don't care.15:32
didrocksgreyback: make sense :)15:32
gang65_My name is Bartosz15:43
gang65_I'm implementing https://bugs.launchpad.net/ayatana-design/+bug/87425415:43
ubot5`Launchpad bug 874254 in unity-2d "top bar, integrated menu - when a application is first launched, the integrated menu should be displayed for 2 seconds before fading out of view" [High,In progress]15:43
didrocksgreyback: approved15:44
gang65_greyback: in launcherapplication.cpp there is onWindowAdded Qslot15:46
gang65_Do you think it is possible to detect new opened app with that signal?15:46
greybackdidrocks: great, thanks16:04
didrocksthanks to you :)16:04
gordom26er, https://bugs.launchpad.net/unity/+bug/931409 - can you test with the staging compiz please?16:05
ubot5`Launchpad bug 931409 in unity (Ubuntu) "[regression trunk] raising a minimized window while desktop is focused is buggy" [High,Confirmed]16:05
gordi know the revision that causes that, but not sure if its a revision that works with new compiz and is just buggy with precice compiz or what16:05
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greybackgang65_: possible, maybe, but I'd prefer a solution similar to Unity's approach. dbusmenu appears to offer enough information to determine if application is new. I'll investigate tomorrow, kinda busy today, sorry.16:09
tsdgeosany idea what went wrong here? https://jenkins.qa.ubuntu.com/job/automerge-dee-qt/8/console16:10
gang65_greyback: no hurry. I will investigate it futher16:10
popeydidrocks: whilst running checkbox unity I discovered bug 931471 bug 931483 bug 931473 and bug 93149916:11
ubot5`Launchpad bug 931471 in Compiz Core "Glitches / flicker when moving windows between workspaces" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/93147116:11
ubot5`Launchpad bug 931483 in Compiz Core "Launcher 'pips' don't update on multiple workspaces" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/93148316:11
ubot5`Launchpad bug 931473 in Compiz Core "Menus don't fully appear" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/93147316:11
ubot5`Launchpad bug 931499 in Compiz Core "Navigating up and down in files lens doesn't highlight "more results"" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/93149916:11
popey(may not all be compiz bugs of course)16:11
didrockspopey: the first one is the dup of the one I reported16:12
didrockslooking at the other once my chromium will be a little more kind16:13
didrockspopey: interesting, for bug #931483, that would mean the test case isn't updated, can you check with sil2100? he knows where they are16:15
ubot5`Launchpad bug 931483 in Compiz Core "Launcher 'pips' don't update on multiple workspaces" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/93148316:15
didrockspopey: bug #931473 is interesting, adding it to the tracked list as medium16:16
ubot5`Launchpad bug 931473 in Compiz Core "Menus don't fully appear" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/93147316:16
didrocksand last one is clearly unity, I'm reassigning16:16
didrockspopey: thanks for the testing!16:17
om26erdidrocks, hey! the compiz in the ~unity-team ppa will that work with unity from trunk?16:17
didrocksom26er: you mean, with compiz?16:18
didrocksom26er: as the ~unity-team ppa is the unity from trunk16:18
om26erdidrocks, we have the unity staging ppa and the compiz 0.9.7 in one ppa16:18
om26erwill the both work together/16:19
didrocksom26er: it's in didrocks/ppa right16:19
didrocksom26er: I pushed compiz, it's currently building and I updated the unity packaging16:19
didrocksom26er: so next merge against unity will build using the latest compiz16:19
om26erseems sam pushed one to unity-team/compiz-testng16:20
didrocksah not myself then16:20
didrockscheck with him, wondering if it's not lamalex's daily build though16:20
om26erdidrocks, alright i'll wait for next compiz build16:20
om26er*unity build i meant16:20
greybackdidrocks: I hate to keep annoying you, but Jenkins failing on a qt-dee build: https://jenkins.qa.ubuntu.com/job/automerge-dee-qt/8/console any ideas?16:21
om26ergord, i'll test that once there is a new build in the staging ppa against new compiz16:23
didrocksgreyback: gvfs-backends if available though, did it just happened?16:23
gordom26er, is that today? have to make a decision on weather i'm reverting the revision or not16:24
greybackdidrocks: yeah, just a little while ago16:24
om26ergord, compiz is uploaded to precise archive its just a matter of a new merge in staging ppa so it builds again16:24
didrocksgreyback: let me try to apt-get install to see if it's a publisher hookups16:24
gordom26er, okay cool16:24
didrocksgreyback: my bet is that they just promoted dbus-test-runner to main and moved gvfs-backends as well16:25
didrocksgreyback: but this one wasn't published16:25
greybackdidrocks: ok16:26
didrockstedg: was there any change in dbus-test-runner?16:27
tedgdidrocks, any change between when and when?16:28
didrockstedg: not sure, we start to see it unstable because of gfvs-backcend16:29
didrocksare you aware about any main promotion?16:29
didrockswhich can explain the transition16:29
didrockshum, it was done a couple of weeks ago: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/dbus-test-runner/+bug/89042816:30
ubot5`Launchpad bug 890428 in dbus-test-runner (Ubuntu) "[MIR] dbus-test-runner" [Undecided,Fix released]16:30
tedgdidrocks, Yes, I'm familiar with that.  It was done for me :-)16:31
didrocksapt-cache show gvfs-backend16:31
didrocks-> can't find the package16:31
didrocksah, there is an s16:32
didrocksthat's weird, it's published and here16:33
didrocksgreyback: ok, seems it was a glitch in the publishers, I did it manually on the pbuilder and now it can catch it from the archives16:37
didrocksgreyback: please reapprove the dee-qt branch first for instance16:37
greybackdidrocks: ok cool, thank you for digging16:37
didrocksgreyback: no worry, ping me back if something goes bad :)16:37
mfischis there an API to add an entry to the launcher?  The LauncherAPI that I found seems to be for progress indicators16:59
htorquesbte: maybe - the nm-applet is part of the application indicators afaict17:03
mfischI tried the gsettings key, but modifying it does not seem to have any affect on my launcher17:04
didrocksgreyback: you should maybe wait before reapproving, the amd64 builders are slowly recovering17:05
sbtehtorque, I was actually looking at the wrong log, so I was also looking for leaks in the wrong place ;P17:05
htorquethere's no right place for a leak :P17:06
greybackdidrocks: ah, ok17:06
greybackmight be too late :)17:06
didrocksgreyback: be ready for an insult from tarmac/jenkins/pbuilder :p17:07
didrockssorry, but that's the issue on building on current archives when things are shacking :)17:07
gordom26er, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/unity/+bug/928737 seems like a compiz bug not unity to me, can we retarget that?17:19
ubot5`Launchpad bug 928737 in unity (Ubuntu) "show desktop makes windows reappear after launching a new program" [High,Triaged]17:19
om26ergord, its in Unity it seems, its Sam's code17:20
om26ergord, Sam is aware about it, actually tried to fix it but the fix didn't actually fix the issue17:20
om26erbug 88119017:21
ubot5`Launchpad bug 881190 in unity (Ubuntu) "Quitting minimized applications in Unity causes all other minimized applications to pop up." [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/88119017:21
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om26erI might be wrong though :p17:22
greybackdidrocks: still there? https://code.launchpad.net/~didrocks/unity-2d/lock_launcher/+activereviews is sitting there for +1 hour now17:25
didrocksgreyback: FYI, Martin's team is supposed to do the maintainance right now on it17:28
didrocksah, you wanted me to merge into that branch?17:28
didrockssorry, didn't see it17:28
didrocksdoing :)17:28
didrocksgreyback: merged17:29
greybackdidrocks: merci17:31
gordom26er, any news on the new compiz + that bug?17:56
om26ergord, no, it seems there have been no new commits to Unity trunk so no new Unity build as a result. I guess revert that change for now :/17:59
gordugh, ok17:59
didrocksom26er: gord: I think racarr_ is approving a new branch right now18:02
didrocksso hopefully, it will get build soon (with the new compiz)18:02
racarr_yes hopefully it works thie time...18:02
mhall119Cimi: ping18:15
Cimimhall119, pong18:15
mhall119Cimi: do you know the current state of https://bugs.launchpad.net/ayatana-scrollbar/+bug/743571 ?18:16
ubot5`Launchpad bug 743571 in ayatana-scrollbar trunk "Some apps can't use overlay scrollbars" [Low,Triaged]18:16
mhall119I'm going through a bunch of apps and noting where they don't integrate with Unity fully, and some (gimp, openshot) use overlay scrollbars in some scroll areas, but not others18:16
Cimimhall119, gimp don't use them18:16
mhall119I know of the problems with XUL and Java apps, but this seems to happen with GTK and QT(?) apps18:16
mhall119Cimi: on purpose?18:17
Cimimhall119, yes iirc18:17
mhall119why is that?18:17
Cimiif I remember correctly18:20
AlanBellmhall119: looks like they wouldn't really work well in gimp because of the widgets that line up with the scrollbars on a content window, the zoom, navigate and quick mask widgets18:23
AlanBellwould work well on the toolbox when that grows a scrollbar18:23
mhall119AlanBell: you mean the overlay would block widgets just outside the scroll viewport?18:24
AlanBellnot quite, let me do a screenshot18:24
AlanBellthose bits18:36
mhall119oh, I understand now, gimp expects to have that scrollbar width area18:37
AlanBellyeah, they are going to look a bit odd if the scrollbar isn't there18:37
AlanBellI would think spreadsheet apps and others would have similar issues18:38
bebeheii am new in the irc and i do not want to hijack the thread, but can somebody answer me a question?18:39
racarr_we can try :)18:40
mhall119bebehei: only if you ask18:40
mhall119Cimi: AlanBell: for Firefox overlay scrollbars, is that something that needs to be done in ayatana-scrollbars, or in Firefox?18:43
ubot5`Launchpad bug 847918 in ayatana-scrollbar "Support not native apps: LibreOffice / OpenOffice" [Low,Triaged]18:43
bebeheinow listen: i use unity since 11.04 but in 11.10 i get sometimes orange circles in the unity-style, above the window, when i move it. i dont know what it is but i think these circles are very useful, but i dont know how to use. the following link will show you a screenshot. Can you give me some tips where to search about it? http://media.cdn.ubuntu-de.org/forum/attachments/3992927/ayatana-unity-ubuntu.png18:45
mhall119bebehei: sounds like the touch UI's drag/resize grips18:46
bebeheithanks! i searched google and it gave me a similar screenshot18:48
sil2100Could anyone here help me out testing bug https://bugs.launchpad.net/compiz-core/+bug/864478 ?18:48
Cimimhall119, firefox18:48
ubot5`Launchpad bug 864478 in unity "Window shading is broken" [High,Fix released]18:48
mhall119Cimi: in the core code, or as an extension?18:48
sil2100The bug description says to modify '/apps/compiz-1/gwd/titlebar_action', but I cannot find that anywhere18:48
Cimimhall119, core code18:48
sil2100It doesn't seem to be in my gconf settings18:48
Cimimhall119, someone has to code it from scratch18:48
mhall119Cimi: is this something we'll have to carry a patch for, or can it co-exist with non-ayatana scrollbars in upstream?18:49
bebeheiagain about the touch UI: i use a laptop with touchpad. How is it possible to get the resize grips! Always when i got it i could snap, and then the resize grips were away! Is there any possibility to use them or is it impossible to use it on laptop?18:59
mhall119chrisccoulson: ping19:32
AlanBellmhall119: http://mikebeach.org/2011/05/20/disable-the-overlay-scrollbars-in-ubuntu-natty/19:40
om26erdavidcalle, bug 931632 screenshot please :p19:45
ubot5`Launchpad bug 931632 in unity "Coverflow : portrait-shaped icons are cropped on top" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/93163219:45
om26erdavidcalle, and hey :D19:45
thumperhi om26er19:45
om26erhey thumper19:46
om26erthumper, just saw, isn't that too early to wake ?19:47
mhall119AlanBell: was there something specific you wanted me to see on that page?19:53
bschaeferhey thumper, do you want to review this? https://code.launchpad.net/~brandontschaefer/unity/fix-915828/+merge/8845019:53
thumperom26er: no, in NZ19:53
thumperbschaefer: looking19:54
thumperbschaefer: I have another question for you...19:54
* thumper digs up link19:54
bschaeferthumper, yup!19:54
AlanBellmhall119: not really, just some previous "gimp+global menus" stuff that I found by accident19:54
bschaeferthumper, also good morning haha19:57
thumperbschaefer: https://code.launchpad.net/~brandontschaefer/unity/fix-896122/+merge/8684819:58
thumperbschaefer: this was approved but not merged19:58
mhall119AlanBell: global menus?  All I saw was about scrollbars19:58
thumperbschaefer: how does this relate to your other branch19:58
AlanBellmhall119: let me just take my brain out and clean it a sec19:58
* AlanBell goes to add more coffee to his bloodstream19:59
bschaeferthumper, o sorry should have put that as abandoned or delete it. That is for the old launcher code19:59
bschaeferthumper, as I didn't know it was missing that mp thing at the top and it never got into the launcher.cpp code20:00
bschaeferthumper, but now it is in LauncherController.cpp! So it is obsolete20:00
mhall119AlanBell: late for coffee over there isn't it?20:00
thumperbschaefer: ok...20:01
AlanBella bit, 8PM, but I like it20:03
bschaeferthumper, I should have just updated that branch...but decided to push a new one20:03
thumperbschaefer: that's fine, I cleaned it up20:04
bschaeferthumper, thank you, I should have done that sorry!20:04
mhall119AlanBell: I'd not be able to sleep if I did that20:09
mhall119AlanBell: do you happen to know the status of ayatana-scrollbars on Chromium?20:09
AlanBellmhall119: right now in precise it doesn't have them20:10
mhall119AlanBell: do you know who, if anyone, was working on them last?20:11
AlanBellno idea, sorry20:11
AlanBellwhat should happen on an iframe or other scrollable bit of browser content?20:12
mhall119good question20:12
mhall119I bet cimi is the one to talk to again20:12
AlanBellthat is going to be an interesting one, especially with websites that use css properties to customise their scrollbars20:18
brunogirinHello, I upgraded to Precise over the week-end and installed the HUD as per instructions here: http://www.theorangenotebook.com/2012/01/testing-hud-heads-up-display.html20:20
brunogirinbut nothing happens when I press ALT in any app: any idea what I'm doing wrong?20:21
om26erbrunogirin, you need to wait for next release of Unity I would say20:21
AlanBellwhich is still friday right?20:22
om26ernot sure about that20:22
om26eryou could use unity from staging ppa20:22
brunogirinom26er, AlanBell: fine, I'm happy to wait a few days, I just thought I had forgotten something obvious :-)20:23
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mhall119what is this? http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2012/02/ubuntu-12-04-to-ditch-global-menu/20:55
mhall119Trevinho: ^^ ??21:01
ahayzenom26er: You said that the above 'Its optional' ...bug 931245... how will it be configurable could you expand?21:08
ubot5`Launchpad bug 931245 in metacity (Ubuntu) "Finish the implementation of the locally integrated menubars" [Undecided,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/93124521:08
gotwigyou saw that new global menu mockup thing at omg ubuntu o.0??? Horrrrible ...21:08
om26erahayzen, it won't be enabled by default21:10
om26erahayzen, you will go to control center and change it there21:10
ahayzenom26er: Thx21:10
Trevinhomhall119: something that hopefully we'll optionally see in precise21:10
ahayzenom26er: Is this something that will be expanded upon to become default in p+1?21:11
om26erTrevinho, show the screenshot in the channel would you21:11
gotwigTrevinho: about what are you talking :-)21:12
om26erahayzen, no21:12
ahayzenom26er: Lol ok :)21:13
gotwiglink please21:13
om26erahayzen, ;-)21:13
gotwiglink please :(21:13
ahayzengotwig: To what?21:13
gotwigahayzen: about your topic21:15
ahayzengotwig: was talking about the bug (bug 931245) you commented on21:16
ubot5`Launchpad bug 931245 in metacity (Ubuntu) "Finish the implementation of the locally integrated menubars" [Undecided,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/93124521:16
nhainesSo my question of the day is, when does HUD get activated in precise?  :)21:18
thumpernhaines: thursday :)21:22
mfischmhall119: I was trying your community-lens per your blog post, but it's choking on "import locodir".  Can you point me at what package provides that?21:22
mhall119mfisch: are you trying it from the bzr branch?21:23
mfischmhall119: yes21:23
mhall119there should be a locodir.py in the branch, you'll need that on your PYTHONPATH21:23
mfischmhall119: I pulled it from there yesterday, fixed a couple things in the packaging and then installed it21:24
mhall119hmmm, the package should install locodir.py21:24
mfischmhall119: lp:~mhall119/onehundredscopes/unity-community-lens does not have locodir.py21:24
nhainesthumper: yay!  Thanks.  :)  I saw some nice updates on Friday and by now I was getting anxious.  I'm really looking forward to it.21:25
gotwigis  there an extra channel for lens developmennt?21:26
mhall119mfisch: ah, yes, community-lens doesn't actually need to import locodir anymore21:26
mhall119mfisch: locodir.py should in in unity-locoteams-scope now21:26
gotwigI would like to develop one, for searching cook recips :-) anyone interessted, in happy c00king , the 1337 stYle ? :D21:26
mhall119gotwig: this is the best channel to talk about  lens development21:27
mfischmhall119: I also modified the control file a bit: gir1.2-unity-4.0 -> 5.0 and then unity-singlet -> python-unity-singlet21:27
gotwigmhall119: thanks for the info21:27
gotwigso do you things there are people interessted in thaat?21:27
mhall119mfisch: submit your changes to my package branch as a merge proposal and I'll make those changes21:27
mfischmhall119: I just need a good example to start from, would you recommend locoteams instead?21:27
gotwigsearching cook recips, in unity?21:27
mfischmhall119: okay wrt control file21:27
mhall119gotwig: probably, the only way to find out is to make it21:28
gotwigmhall119: :-)21:28
mhall119mfisch: example for what?21:28
gotwigmhall119: its a shame, that I dont find a search engine or site, that has multilingual recips21:28
nhainesgotwig: ooh, will it read Gourmet files or will it be a Web search?21:28
mfischmhall119: just as a starting point to learn the api.  seems like they're very similar so I'm guessing either is fine21:29
mhall119nhaines: you can make scopes for both :)21:29
gotwignhaines: more a Web Search :-)21:29
mhall119mfisch: unity-locoteams-scope provide data to unity-community-lens21:29
mhall119they work together21:29
gotwignhaines: but you would be able to filter, trough ratings, categories, etc.21:29
gotwignhaines: the needed time21:29
mfischmhall119: thx21:30
nhainesgotwig: well, do consider adding Gourmet support as well... it's the only recipe manager I know for Ubuntu.  Sounds like a nice lens, though!21:30
gotwignhaines: yip, maybe I will integrate a configurator, like in the youtube lens21:31
gotwigI asked already a big site for recipe search for API acess21:31
gotwigtoo bad that I can't  cook ^^21:32
nhainesgotwig: hehe, I think it's just practice.  ^^21:35
gotwignhaines: http://www.recipefy.com/21:36
gotwigseems to be a good base21:36
gotwigright? it seems to be multilingual, but 4000 recipes is not much21:36
gotwig*are and many :X21:37
mhall119gotwig: that's over 10 years of dinners21:37
nhainesgotwig: might be a good start... make it modular and others can add in plugins for other services.  :)21:37
mhall119nhaines: gotwig: Unity lenses are automatically modular21:38
mhall119anybody can add a scope to your lens21:38
gotwigmhall119: mh, yummi ;)21:38
nhainesmhall119: that simplifies things then!21:38
gotwigI have to do it trough python, right?21:39
nhainesI am very pleased at how fast the Unity Dash is in precise.  It's dismal in 11.10.21:39
gotwignhaines: +121:39
gotwignhaines: I live 12.04, already use it on all my  (working) systems21:39
gotwig"love" xD21:39
gotwigtoo late for me, german boy.. :P21:40
nhainesgotwig: I have some significant trouble with Synergy on precise which means I can't use it very much.  And it won't run on my laptop at all... kernel panic during boot!21:40
nhainesBut hopefully I can set aside some time and file some bugs.21:40
gotwignhaines: bad luck ;P21:41
gotwignhaines: finaly I dont have toshiba battery problems21:41
gotwignhaines: I mean, it still consumes much, but I can finally see all statistics out of the box21:42
mhall119mfisch: thanks for the MP!  Approved and merged your changes21:44
mfischmhall119: np.21:44
mfischmhall119: can you clarify something from your blog?  1st para says singlet will work in oneiric, but you replied to a comment later that says precise-only?21:45
mhall119mfisch: good idea.  Singlet 0.1 works on Oneiric, but 0.2 onward is Precise only21:46
mhall119mfisch: is https://plus.google.com/u/0/109141308226450489079/ you?21:46
mfischmhall119: https://plus.google.com/u/0/110837030248729640386 is me21:47
mhall119If I tag the wrong person, he'd be all kinds of confused :)21:48
mfischmhall119: yes he would21:49
gotwigmhall119: link?21:50
gotwigmfisch: are you german :D?21:51
mfischgotwig: my great-great-great grandparents were when they moved to New York in the 1800s, so kinda?21:51
gotwigmfisch: Na dann ;)21:51
mfischgotwig: I'm a typical American mutt, german hungarian, scottish, english, and ???21:52
gotwigmfisch: ???: undefinied21:52
mfischgotwig: meaning, lost to history21:52
gotwigmfisch: and I thought the indianers are the real americans :P21:53
mhall119gotwig: link to what?21:53
mfischgotwig: I'm not getting into that argument21:53
gotwigmhall119: about the merge21:53
mfischgotwig: ;)21:53
mhall119gotwig: https://code.launchpad.net/~mfisch/onehundredscopes/unity-community-lens-fixes/+merge/9286021:53
gotwigmfisch: .... I'm just a german boy, that cant talk properly english, I'm sorrry for that :P21:54
gotwigmfisch: offtopic21:54
gotwigmhall119: thanks for that21:54
gotwigbtw. what is with scope compatibility for unity 5.021:55
mhall119gotwig: the API changed between Unity 4 (oneiric) and Unity 5 (precise)21:58
gotwigmhall119: I would like to see the google books lens again22:00
nhainesgotwig: dein Englisch ist mindestens tausendmal besser als mein Deutsch.  :)22:01
mhall119gotwig: that's davidcalle's, I'm not sure if it's been upgraded to Precise yet22:01
nhainesHmm, I'll need to ping people about the Ubuntu console font again.22:02
gotwigmfisch: what does the community lens do?22:02
mfischgotwig: you should read this: http://mhall119.com/2012/01/singlet-part-0-2/22:02
gotwigmhall119: you did the dictionary lens?22:03
gotwigmhall119: or scope, sry22:03
gotwigmfisch: singlet looks realy sexy to me :D22:05
gotwigtoo bad that you have to install singlet, and cant boundle it somehow into the app it self :/22:11
gotwigso, the user has to install 2 packages, if he hasnt already singlet installed22:11
gotwigno respons...?22:17
nhainesgotwig: just remember that then once you have singlet installed you never have to install it multiple times with other apps as well.22:20
gotwignhaines: I know.. the thing with libraries22:20
gotwignhaines: would be good to have it installed by default in unity, right?22:21
gotwigor  merge the functions of it into unity it self22:21
nhainesgotwig: donno, not if it can be used for other purposes outside of Unity, or isn't needed by any of the default Unity features.  :)22:21
nhainesPlus being separate also means that it can have bugfixes applied without having to download and reinstall all of Unity again.22:22
gotwignhaines: when I never developed a scope or lens, and now I want to , should I use it :X ?22:22
gotwigI want to develop it for 12.0422:23
gotwig* in relation to  singlet22:23
mhall119gotwig: singlet is in the Universe repo, so it will be automatically downloaded and installed when it's needed22:23
gotwigmhall119: from 12.04?22:23
mhall119gotwig: yes22:23
gotwigmhall119: there are two packages22:24
gotwigmhall119: which one you mean, are they the same?22:24
gotwigpython-unity-singlet, and unity-singlet22:24
mhall119gotwig: python-unity-singlet is the binary package you will install22:24
mhall119unity-singlet is the source package22:24
gotwigmhall119: ok :-) nice nice nice22:25
gotwigmhall119: I am more a script guy ;)22:25
mhall119gotwig: me too, when doing local development22:25
mhall119but packages make it easier for other people to use what I write22:25
gotwighm that community lens from the ppa is not compatible with unity 5.0 (?)22:27
gotwigmhall119: I already packaged stuff ;)22:27
gotwigmhall119: for the elementary project22:28
mhall119gotwig: that's part of what mfisch fixed22:28
mhall119gotwig: the fix is building now, and should be available from the PPA in a few hours22:28
gotwigand the dictionary package22:30
gotwigdepends on unity-singlet22:30
gotwignot on python-unity-singlet22:30
gotwigwhat breaks some things, too ..22:30
gotwigI think you already know it22:30
mhall119gotwig: yeah, the dictionary lens package needs to be updated too22:30
mfischgotwig: yeah, installing the python-unity-singlet removed some of my older lenses22:31
mhall119mfisch: it did?22:31
mfischmhall119: let me check the logs22:31
mfischmhall119: yes.  Remove: unity-scope-calculator:amd64 (0.1), gir1.2-unity-4.0:amd64 (4.0.6-0ubuntu3), unity-scope-cities:amd64 (0.1), unity-lens-sshsearch:amd64 (0.1), unity-lens-utilities:amd64 (0.1)22:32
mfischmhall119: now, I upgraded to precise 1-2 weeks back so they could have already been broken22:32
mhall119mfisch: oh, yeah, likely they were22:34

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