| Unit193 | Cheri703: Hey, mind emailing me your busy/free days? (Bare info, can also put in days you don't want :P ) | 03:39 |
|---|---|---|
| Cheri703 | I'm off work on sundays and mondays | 03:46 |
| Unit193 | Seemed to have forgotten that. | 03:49 |
| Cheri703 | no worries | 03:49 |
| Cheri703 | it's only been like 2 weeks that I've been on that schedule | 03:50 |
| Unit193 | Seeing if EricR2427 can. | 03:50 |
| Cheri703 | k | 03:56 |
| Cheri703 | I probably can't do anything tomorrow, as I'm working through a pretty nasty chest cold | 03:56 |
| Unit193 | Generally, and hope that hasn't lasted long. | 04:07 |
| jrgifford | paultag, this is the code for your FOSS about.me project, right? - https://github.com/paultag/practically-me | 16:39 |
| paultag | jrgifford: jep | 16:39 |
| paultag | jrgifford: it's buggy, but try out http://me.anized.org/paultag/ | 16:39 |
| paultag | it sucks with non-widescreen | 16:40 |
| paultag | jrgifford: contribute to it! :) | 16:40 |
| * jrgifford looks | 16:40 | |
| jrgifford | i think jcastro will be excited | 16:41 |
| paultag | jrgifford: he doens't give a shit :) | 16:41 |
| jrgifford | lol | 16:41 |
| paultag | jrgifford: sadly no one really likes this | 16:41 |
| paultag | jrgifford: but I do, so I'm going to work on it | 16:41 |
| jrgifford | i like it. | 16:41 |
| paultag | thanks :) | 16:41 |
| paultag | I'm going to add github support first | 16:42 |
| paultag | it'll become pretty slick if I keep true to where I think it should be going | 16:42 |
| paultag | jrgifford: I need to add some hacks to make the pages less sucky on long-ways screen | 16:43 |
| paultag | somehow the assholes behind the major browsers fucked up their own spec | 16:43 |
| jrgifford | if i remember right, about.me sucks there as well | 16:43 |
| paultag | ‘cover’ | 16:43 |
| paultag | Scale the image, while preserving its intrinsic aspect ratio (if any), to the smallest size such that both its width and its height can completely cover the background positioning area. | 16:43 |
| paultag | my fucking ass it'll scale for height | 16:44 |
| paultag | what idiots | 16:44 |
| paultag | jesus | 16:44 |
| paultag | but yeah | 16:45 |
| paultag | flickr and github integration are next | 16:45 |
| paultag | I also understand both are nonfree | 16:45 |
| jrgifford | do i look like i care? :P | 16:45 |
| jrgifford | i mean, we're not the software freedom foundation for crying out loud. | 16:45 |
| paultag | jrgifford: I care :) | 16:46 |
| jrgifford | and i'm definitely not RMS. ;D | 16:46 |
| paultag | but not that much | 16:46 |
| jrgifford | out of the open source options for github, | 16:46 |
| jrgifford | you've got gitorious, launchpad and that's about it | 16:46 |
| paultag | gitlabhq is pretty nice | 16:46 |
| jrgifford | and who uses gitorious? | 16:46 |
| paultag | scratch that, gitlabhq is very nice | 16:47 |
| jrgifford | oooohhh.... gitlabhq looks awesome | 16:47 |
| * jrgifford installs on his server | 16:47 | |
| paultag | it's rails | 16:47 |
| paultag | wich is meh | 16:47 |
| jrgifford | ruby *does* have some of the best git bindings | 16:48 |
| jrgifford | thanks to github open sourcing grit. :S | 16:48 |
| paultag | mmm | 16:48 |
| paultag | tis true | 16:48 |
| thafreak | Anyone try the "ubuntu business remix" iso yet? | 22:03 |
| canthus13 | business remix? | 22:07 |
| canthus13 | I hope they ripped out unity... | 22:07 |
| thafreak | haha | 22:07 |
| thafreak | nope, just removed games, etc | 22:07 |
| thafreak | non-business stuff | 22:07 |
| thafreak | stuck flash and openjdk in | 22:07 |
| thafreak | i'm going to give it a spin | 22:07 |
| thafreak | you have to register to download it though, which is lame | 22:08 |
| canthus13 | Keeping unity is lame. :/ | 22:08 |
| thafreak | well, that's the center of their desktop world now...doubt they'll ditch it | 22:09 |
| _bbb | thats the concensus.. ive decided | 22:09 |
| thafreak | i'll be interested to see how computer idiots (sales people mostly) react to it though | 22:09 |
| thafreak | i'm going to force it on some of them... | 22:09 |
| _bbb | thats not very pc | 22:09 |
| thafreak | it's very pc | 22:10 |
| thafreak | whey're winidiots | 22:10 |
| thafreak | windiots | 22:10 |
| _bbb | PC LOAD LETTER?!? | 22:10 |
| thafreak | sales people are the worst | 22:10 |
| _bbb | its fun to stereotype | 22:10 |
| _bbb | but yeah | 22:10 |
| _bbb | stereotypes for a reason i guess | 22:11 |
| thafreak | no...no stereotypes, only countless hours of real life data I work with | 22:11 |
| _bbb | yes just memories for me thankfully | 22:11 |
| thafreak | maybe i only ever deal with the loser sales people... | 22:11 |
| _bbb | but ive done it.. some of them are my good friends still tho | 22:11 |
| thafreak | would explain why they don't last more than a few months | 22:12 |
| thafreak | you were sales? | 22:12 |
| thafreak | hmmm...my in-laws must just attract the shittiest sales people then... | 22:13 |
| _bbb | no | 22:13 |
| _bbb | just sales friendly | 22:13 |
| _bbb | in other news | 22:13 |
| _bbb | start a new job in 3 wks | 22:14 |
| thafreak | is it sales? ;) | 22:14 |
| _bbb | unix/linux sys eng | 22:14 |
| thafreak | fuck yes | 22:14 |
| _bbb | punching computars | 22:14 |
| thafreak | in the NEO? | 22:14 |
| _bbb | but its more than that | 22:14 |
| _bbb | weaving and bobbing | 22:14 |
| _bbb | defensive blocking | 22:14 |
| _bbb | yes same company im at now | 22:14 |
| thafreak | sounds like some M$ is involved | 22:15 |
| thafreak | you work your way up or something? | 22:15 |
| _bbb | movin on up to the east side | 22:15 |
| thafreak | good job george | 22:15 |
| _bbb | next tier | 22:15 |
| _bbb | quad damage | 22:15 |
| thafreak | you pass your brown belt test or somehting | 22:15 |
| _bbb | heh no | 22:16 |
| * canthus13 is actually starting to like Mint. His wife and girlfriend are both using it now and it's pretty nice, gnome 3 and all. | 22:16 | |
| _bbb | born that way | 22:16 |
| _bbb | yes ive moved to mint mostly | 22:16 |
| _bbb | also love the crunchbang | 22:16 |
| canthus13 | Crunchbang is nice, but.... | 22:17 |
| canthus13 | 1 person in charge of the entire project is a bit... unsettling. | 22:17 |
| thafreak | did everyone just miss the "wife and girlfriend" comment? | 22:17 |
| canthus13 | thafreak: ...I thought you knew. | 22:17 |
| * canthus13 shrugs. | 22:17 | |
| thafreak | apparently not | 22:18 |
| _bbb | open source. open marriage.. ok | 22:18 |
| canthus13 | _bbb: That's an interesting way of looking at it. :D | 22:18 |
| Unit193 | thafreak: Yep, thought it was odd, but knew. | 22:18 |
| _bbb | amirite? | 22:18 |
| _bbb | anyway.. i love the spirit of ubuntu but not thier version of unity | 22:20 |
| thafreak | don't really dislike unity...just think gnome 3 is actually better so far | 22:21 |
| thafreak | and i've had fewer problems with it | 22:21 |
| _bbb | yeah *shrug* | 22:22 |
| canthus13 | with the exception of the silly mint menu, I like Mint. Gnome 3 isn't as obnoxious as I expected. | 22:22 |
| Unit193 | I liked Xubu and Lubu, but Debian is looking really good once you set it up. | 22:23 |
| canthus13 | I may end up switching to Mint Debian. | 22:24 |
| canthus13 | But so far I like my openbox enough to deal with a few more iterations of ubuntu. | 22:24 |
| thafreak | i went the debian desktop route for a bit...but certain software went out of date too fast | 22:24 |
| thafreak | like web browsers | 22:24 |
| Unit193 | Testing? | 22:24 |
| thafreak | and some stuff wasn't packaged for debian, but it was on ubuntu | 22:25 |
| Unit193 | The rebranding of Firefox is a bit annoying, yes. | 22:25 |
| thafreak | yeah, I think deb testing is a bit better...BUT when a new release happens, and testing opens back up...LOTS of packages need updating | 22:26 |
| thafreak | anyone on the ubuntu-server list? | 22:26 |
| thafreak | watching the removal of mysql debate is pretty interesting | 22:26 |
| Unit193 | Looking to replace with m<something> clone? | 22:28 |
| Unit193 | MariaDB | 22:28 |
| thafreak | yeah, talk of swapping it out with mariadb | 22:28 |
| thafreak | i guess mysql's bug tracker went private | 22:29 |
| thafreak | among other things...and something about vuln announcements being cryptic | 22:29 |
| thafreak | sounds like oracle is oracling the mysql community | 22:29 |
| * canthus13 hates it when they obfuscate vulnerability announcements. :/ | 22:29 | |
| * thafreak hates it when oracle oracle's a OS community | 22:30 | |
| Unit193 | Wonder what'll happen to VirtualBox, no forks yet that I know of. | 22:31 |
| jrgifford | thafreak, is the talk about removing MySQL *legit*, serious and (mostly) free of trolls? | 22:31 |
| jrgifford | Unit193, VirtualBox seems to be strong, Oracle hasn't completely destroyed it. Yet. | 22:31 |
| Unit193 | "Yet" being the key word. | 22:32 |
| jrgifford | yes, but i don't think they'll ruin VBox. | 22:33 |
| jrgifford | mysql was bad to begin with IMHO, VBox at least has a fighting chance. | 22:33 |
| Unit193 | I'll fully admit that I'm "using" MySQL now, but I don't see MariaDB in the repo (Last I knew it was a drop-in replacement.) | 22:36 |
| thafreak | yeah, it's packaged by the mariadb people, but for whatever reason, it's not been pulled into debian | 22:39 |
| thafreak | hopefully that will change by precise...but dunno, time's running out | 22:39 |
| Unit193 | Doesn't play nice with the MySQL packages it seems. | 22:39 |
| jrgifford | i don't think it'll be in precise. | 22:40 |
| jrgifford | for a few reasons, but among them is the "its an LTS, if we wanted to do this we should have done it on natty" argument | 22:40 |
| thafreak | BUT | 22:44 |
| thafreak | it's an LTS release, and security updates are of the utmost importance | 22:44 |
| thafreak | "One thing to note, the primary motivator for this proposal isn't about | 22:45 |
| thafreak | moving to a more "open source friendly" application. We have genuine | 22:45 |
| thafreak | security concerns/issues with how MySQL handles and publishes their | 22:45 |
| thafreak | security updates." | 22:45 |
| thafreak | http://ninjadeveloperclub.com/ | 22:47 |
| paultag | sounds racist | 23:05 |
| paultag | also | 23:05 |
| thafreak | you're racist | 23:05 |
| paultag | it should be a blank page | 23:05 |
| paultag | also, so much bootstrap.js | 23:06 |
| paultag | erm, .css | 23:06 |
| jrgifford | thafreak, didn't hear about the security concerns. they are valid. | 23:15 |
| jrgifford | paultag, don't go hating on bootstrap | 23:15 |
| jrgifford | just hate on *companies* who use bootstrap | 23:15 |
| jrgifford | i think a developer who makes something in one night can use bootstrap, but a company that uses bootstrap should have their entire company, from the garbage boy to the CEO shot and hung. | 23:16 |
| jrgifford | :P | 23:16 |
| paultag | jrgifford: I use bootstrap | 23:18 |
| Unit193 | Can we shoot him? | 23:21 |
| jrgifford | paultag, for professional projects? | 23:35 |
| paultag | jrgifford: jep | 23:39 |
| jrgifford | I don't know you any more. :P | 23:42 |
| paultag | jrgifford: it's for administrative stuff | 23:47 |
| paultag | that only us (the developers) see | 23:47 |
| paultag | but it's part of a professonal project | 23:47 |
| jrgifford | oh, ok thats ok then. as long as the end user/paying customer isn't seeing it i'm ok with using bootstrap. :P | 23:47 |
| paultag | ergo, suckit | 23:47 |
| jrgifford | lol | 23:47 |
| paultag | if *anyone* has to see someone else's bootstrap | 23:48 |
| paultag | yer doing it wrong | 23:48 |
| thafreak | so, I've never used this bootstrap before | 23:52 |
| thafreak | why you guys so against it being used by end users? | 23:52 |
| jrgifford | http://twitter.github.com/bootstrap/ | 23:52 |
| jrgifford | im against it because if everyone uses bootstrap for their front facing UI | 23:53 |
| jrgifford | then we'll never see a well designed website again | 23:53 |
| thafreak | oh ok | 23:53 |
| thafreak | makes everything look like twitter or something? | 23:53 |
| jrgifford | yup. | 23:53 |
| thafreak | nothing bad about it technologically then? | 23:53 |
| jrgifford | now, i'm really liking this use of bootstrap though, because even though it uses bootstrap, it doesn't look like bootstrap - http://blog.dasroot.net/ | 23:54 |
| paultag | jrgifford: also that fleetr thing | 23:54 |
| jrgifford | technologically, nothing - other than the fact @fat doesn't like semicolons in his JS. | 23:54 |
| paultag | http://www.fleetio.com/ | 23:54 |
| jrgifford | paultag, never heard of it. zerb foundation | 23:55 |
| paultag | they use hella bootstrap | 23:55 |
| jrgifford | that doesn't look like bootstrap at all. | 23:55 |
| thafreak | ? | 23:56 |
| thafreak | is that sarcasm...i can't tell | 23:56 |
| jrgifford | thafreak, what, about fat not liking semicolons? | 23:56 |
| jrgifford | or not looking like bootstrap? | 23:57 |
| thafreak | no about fleetio not looking like bootstrap | 23:57 |
| jrgifford | it doesn't use a lot of the big tell tales. | 23:57 |
| jrgifford | aka, the bit fat topbar, the border menus etc | 23:57 |
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